True, Theon returning the Iron Islands pressure him to join his birth family and wanting acceptance but fails. I know that Asha still loves him though but his father never did. Idk if this was in the book, maybe in the show. But Theon saying how his true father, Eddard, died hurt me
do you ever feel like the constant brutal victimising of so many in the story becomes a bit over the top or like overkill, i get that martin is trying to show that life can be cruel, but it feels like one of the only ways martin knows how to make you empathise with a character or feel sorry for them or take a redemption arc they undergo seriously is by having them be brutally victimised even when the character may not deserve sympathy and it kinda feels like misery porn sometimes?
Yeah I have thought that at different points while reading the books. I think for me personally it will greatly depend on how the series ends (assuming it ever does). If at least some of the main characters (Jon, Arya, Sansa, Tyrion for example) get a happy ending, I think it'll balance itself out. If George decides to "subvert expectations/genre tropes" and end on a sour note, then I won't be so happy about the series as a whole.
Theon is exactly the reason I love The Bastard of Bolton. Guy might be an evil prick, but he at least took it out on the right person for a while. My favorite part of the series, is Reek frantically trying to hide the evidence of the rat he just ate, who was trying to eat him in his sleep, and Ramsay tsk tssking him, "Reek, have you been stealing my Lord Father's rats again?" I literally laughed out loud at that part
My favourite book character bar non,his internal monologue are magnificently written
Theon brought it all upon himself. Granted,Rob shouldve never let him return to the Iron Islands,but Theon made the decision to take Winterfell.
True, Theon returning the Iron Islands pressure him to join his birth family and wanting acceptance but fails. I know that Asha still loves him though but his father never did.
Idk if this was in the book, maybe in the show. But Theon saying how his true father, Eddard, died hurt me
Theon got a punishment even worse that he deserved, and he deserved a horrible punishment.
do you ever feel like the constant brutal victimising of so many in the story becomes a bit over the top or like overkill, i get that martin is trying to show that life can be cruel, but it feels like one of the only ways martin knows how to make you empathise with a character or feel sorry for them or take a redemption arc they undergo seriously is by having them be brutally victimised even when the character may not deserve sympathy and it kinda feels like misery porn sometimes?
Yeah I have thought that at different points while reading the books. I think for me personally it will greatly depend on how the series ends (assuming it ever does). If at least some of the main characters (Jon, Arya, Sansa, Tyrion for example) get a happy ending, I think it'll balance itself out. If George decides to "subvert expectations/genre tropes" and end on a sour note, then I won't be so happy about the series as a whole.
@@ExploringFiction GRRM always said that it'll be a bittersweet ending.
Theon is exactly the reason I love The Bastard of Bolton. Guy might be an evil prick, but he at least took it out on the right person for a while. My favorite part of the series, is Reek frantically trying to hide the evidence of the rat he just ate, who was trying to eat him in his sleep, and Ramsay tsk tssking him, "Reek, have you been stealing my Lord Father's rats again?" I literally laughed out loud at that part
Thank YOU 😂😂 you get it
I understand Theon more and I didnt hate him.
Theon turned his cloak on no one. He was never a Stark or a Northerner; he owed them nothing.
He swore allegiance to the king in the north bro
Theon Greyjoy deserved it all, I have less than no sympathy for him
Then you are sadist
He didn’t though. The only type of person that deserves that type of punishment is child molesters.
At all
Fuck he has been through a lot tho