I got BANNED FROM THE EXPO - Terraristika Hamm Unnecessary Drama
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The message: "It's a shame you lied to me. I'm banning you." Shows a lack of professionalism. You dodged a bullet to be honest.
I agree that was super unprofessional., wow not only that but he took it to social media and lied more. Nah this needs to be spread that's super unprofessional to do.
I picture the event coordinator as a young jealous little boy crying that he dropped his ice cream..
He thought he was scammed out of money and is embarrassed so he doubled down when we found out he isnt. I bet if a private seller paid the company price, he wouldn't give a single f*ck
@@EricDeMilio he made money off of Petko
@Crispy Chicken
But according to what he said he DID pay the company price and didn't ask for a refund or anything.
Petko: *brings business, fans and enjoys himself at your Expo*
Expo organizer: "And I took that Personally"
You can but nobody cares.
Jealous
Dude just didn’t feel like it was all about him anymore.
Next one who gets more attention than him on his expo will get banned because of not asking permission to use the toilet.
The fact that you can't take pictures at the expo is a huge red flag tbh
why, some people like having privacy (and we have laws ...)
In Germany, it's illegal to take photos from random people. That's why it's not allowed.
@@Whiterun-guard9This kind of blanket statement is wrong. Greetings, a street photographer.
@@Nitidus It is not a wrong statement.
@@Whiterun-guard9It is. You are completely wrong. First of all, the only thing that's relevant here is that it's a PRIVATE venue so the organizer had every right to make up whatever rules for photography he wants to enforce. Everything in regards to new GDPR laws etc. is only relevant in PUBLIC space. Fortunately, as has been confirmed by several courts already, for public photography, GDPR doesn't really change anythjng:
- You can still photograph everyone you wish, as long as they're not singled out but part of a "greater work", so in street photography, that's generally referring to the overall street scene. Oversimplified, you're only prohibited from taking portraits.
- People have the right to not be photographed. To ensure the continuation of public photography, it has been established that as soon as people ask you not to take their photograph, you can't produce images which include them, even if they're not the main focus.
- The main thing people have been confusing for decades now is that you _CAN_ photograph a scene without asking people but what you _CANNOT_ do is publish those photographs online, in a magazine, a book or TV, just to name some examples. You need a release form from everyone in that image first. _BUT_ as courts have ruled, even without a release, if the image is of greater artistic value, that's more important than the individual's right to privacy, so you can still publicize those pictures and use them commercially.
Journalistic work would not be possible anymore with what you're describing. The law doesn't differentiate between someone who arbitrarily got assigned a press pass and one who didn't, though. So you need a general ruling, and that's complicated.
Your literal statement, horribly generalized, is factually wrong. Who would have guessed that the law is nuanced and not black and white? Crazy thing.
But again, since we're talking about a *private venue,* none of this matters. It's house rules only there.
Petko.... This guy is ridiculous. I can't imagine how he's managed to keep the show together for this long. He's definitely on an ego trip, the last post is a Karen post, he got backed into a corner and is lashing out. I don't live in Europe, but if I did I would never go to this expo after the interaction you had with him. I hope you don't take it to heart, you're an awesome person that's well intentioned and they don't deserve to have you there. 🕷️🕷️🕷️
EDIT-- Petko did you see he's still making posts about it? There's one from two days ago. This dude is off his rocker
gets banned for having to many people around his booth: Petko, Suffering from Success
Suffering from jealousy of the others that got angry over him doing better than them
Petko is so humble, kind, and honest. Such a great guy whom I respect soooo much.
XD
lol truth
That's pretty normal for events. Lots of people at convention have issues with that exact thing and get talked to by organizers. It sucks but it's how it goes. It's also has good intentions behind it. The other booths payed to be there and have their spot. Your crowd blocks those booths then they don't get what they payed for because as he said people could go through the crowd but they probably would just keep walking and not bother.
Just by coincidence, this happened to another UA-camr at an expo in California (I think...) earlier this year. Snake Discovery was mobbed at their table, due to their following, and it caused problems. Solution? The organisers helped them relocate their table so as not to interfere with other exhibitors. Now that's class! 😁😘
I was thinking of that incedent while watching this! There was so many, calm and civil ways to handle this. But the guy chose to be petty and "go Hamm".
yeh i saw that too, it caused problems but it was not their fault at all so the organisers got them a better area so they didnt block aisles with their fans. no youtuber with any humility wants to apply to go to an expo and tell the organiser "im a very important youtuber and my fans are so many you will not be able to handle them." its an organisers job to try to have a workaround for any eventualityso really the blame does fall on them. If your expo is great big names are going to come, youtubers are going to come, really popular breeders are going to come and thats a credit to how good your expo is. you need to have a few side rooms or larger stalls waiting in case this sort of thing happens. then you can ask the person whose fans are blocking the aisle if they can move into their own room or into an area with more space away from the other stalls. it might be no ones fans turn up or no one famous turns up and you dont need to use that plan but having it there in case is key and should be common sense to impliment. to ban someone for this is stupid, so what if they had a missunderstanding and he thought petko was comercial and petko thought he was private, the only difference is the fee paid and petko paid the higher fee so what is his problem, no lie was told petko just messaged to clarify something from his perspective and upon recieving that message the organiser should have sent clear rules about what they concider comercial or private and asked him to email to confirm wich he was by their rules. as for selfies in the venu they asked him to stop and he did so why the problem. it is very rude and unprofessional and to then go on to bash him publicly even without his name. fans would have seen what was happening at the expo and figured out who he was talking about then it would have spread till everyone knew.
It's almost like these organizers were ... organized? And had plans for what to do in case of a situation like that.
How did the organisers not see that coming with Emily and Ed in person at an expo? Glad they handled it correctly though
I thought the same thing -- Snake Discovery gets a corner spot at the expos they come to in my area and that really helps concentrate the group and not interfere with the other exhibitors
As a German, I feel ashamed...so sorry that happend. Thanks to you I cured my fear of spiders too😁I own 4 by myself now. Hopefully you get an apology from them 🙏
“I don’t want to get sued because of this stupid shit”
Boss response from Petko 🤣 you still have your followers/subscribers supporting you no matter what; we’re behind you! 😁
10:21 me in a shower playing out entire scenarios and conversations that have never happened
In mid-shower daydream land, I am the king of discourse.
This comment wins 🤣🤣
Lmfao. So glad Im not the only one.
HAHA OMG same here. I spend sooo long in the shower thanks to all the daydreaming.
"Terraristika is a breeder's meeting and not a circus"
The guy literally called HIS OWN COSTUMERS (and your fans) clowns.
Great job yeah, I hope everyone will think twice before ever attending that event again. I sure will.
Literally said anyone who doesnt specifically breed tarantulas, if you're even interested but don't breed them, instantly banned for lying
The guy is straight up delusional.
Terraristika has been on my to-do-list for many years!
And I live quite near Houten, the TERbeurs is its smaller but also very international one.
also ironic how HE is actually the one "making a circus" here (as we say in German for creating childish havoc - which is also what this google translate is derived from)
It was my first time in Hamm and I was really happy to be able to meet you! Even after hours of talking to people you were super super welcoming and took your time to talk to me. It's really sad to see how narrow minded some people are... Probably you were the first "UA-cam celebrity" to visit Hamm and it just didnt fit in their concept. They could just work with you and make some other arrangements for when you eventually visit again - you mentioned that you might potentially return at least once a year, which I thought was terrific. But even though they manage to organize quite a large expo mutliple times a year, they lack some serious people skills. Sad to think we won't see you once every while here in Germany, it makes me wonder if I will want to go there again and pay 15€ to a guy who appearently treats other people like s*. Sorry this has ended with some bad experience for you Petko!
He’s 💯 jelly belly! That is jealousy and so very petty, immature and unprofessional! You were absolutely in the right Dark Den!
Most definitely jealousy
I am SO SORRY ☹️
We were so happy to see you in Germany and now they treat you like that??? Shame shame shame!!! Never visiting Hamm Expo again!
Come to Terraria in Houten, people there are much more chill ❤
Yeah Houten is always a vibe
Yes, houten!! Great idea!!
Yeah Houten is a great idea!
same..it was my first and last time meeting hamm expo. Im so mad about this
If he does not read the rules & regs for Houten he will make another video just like this one.
I love the expo, but there are also (strict) rules for vendors...
He would be wise to warn people in advance he is a youtuber, and there may be a bit of a meet&greet.
Likely they will give him a spot where it will not be in the way and can party all he wants...
That's petty of them, to be honest. Unnecessary drama. I'm sorry that this happened to you.
Especially with the amount of free advertising The Dark Den gave the show, for months cus he was so excited. How unfortunate. He'll see. After next shows ticket sales. Especially after the b.s. drama. He'll have to beg petko for a live to give him apologies in front of the exotic pet community.....or just deal with at least a couple years of shows with poor attendance. Big egos will ruin ya. Look at that TRUMP CLOWN
Petko they would have put you in a different area if you were a business so there would not be the overcrowding that you mentioned. You cant say its the organisers fault for putting you in the wrong area when you are clearly a business paying taxes
im guessing people complained afterwards about the crowds and thats why they didnt approach you. You yourself mentioned its nothing to do with the fees paid.
i can go on with more points but i think you get the message. you should apologise you messed up and go to Hamm again next time after youve been forgiven
@ibrahim-sj2cr will you post this in more comments? 💀 he already apologised for certain things but after how petty the owner has been doing with his passive aggressive comments he doesn't deserve a apology at all 🤡
@@ibrahim-sj2cr That doens't make any sense though. If he or any other 'famous' personality were to go there and not set up shop, but just show off some animals and meet people, the same overcrowding would happen, as they wouldn't be in the business area aswell.
This guy also posted this exact comment under a load of comments in this video. seems sus to me buit who knows.
@xDex182 secretly, it's a friend of the coward 🤡😂
Such a shame that guy decided to act like a child, and when called out, continued to do so.
Nice to see those jumping spiders! I had a jumping spider for about 2 months and he just passed away this week, hopefully yours last much longer!
Right. He needs to grow up
You should use this as a platform to start your own expo. Who knows in a few years you could be hosting the The Dark Expo
Fantastic idea; lots of work.
Event director: Tell me your insecure without telling me your insecure….How dare you make others feel less than Dark Den 😂
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray
Very well said
Glad you like the little jumpers and that they arrived safely at the dark den :) It's so cool to see them in the video! I hope you have a lot of fun with them and that you will be successful with the breeding (I would try it with the bigger girl). ❤
Lena
My friend and I were so happy to meet you there, that you came to Germany. And, of course, we were there for a while to look what the others had to sell.
Like the others said that guy was unnecessary rude to you. We won't visit that expo again because of that ugly behavior he came up with against you.
I hope you aren't too disappointed. Fortunately, not all germans are such "Korinthenkacker".
Much love!
Translated "korinthenkacker" to English with Google and it comes out as "currant poop", I love it 😂😂😂
@@dillonbowers8950😂😂😂
In my experience, if pictures aren't allowed in a big open EXPO (exposition), then it means there are illegal items or practices.
Also, if you are charged as a business and don't ask for a refund, then it seems petty for the organizer to punish you for over-paying for their mistake. Since you already paid the business fee, then the only thing they should have said was "We understand a mistake was made. Your status of private was incorrect. It seems however, that you have already been charged and we have adjusted your status to business. Please register as business in the future."
Theres no videos etc allowed as to stop anti-pet types like Peta etc spreading their propaganda videos of snakes and lizards being stuck in tiny boxes for hours on peoples tables. Just because theres videos allowed at US pet conventions doesn't mean they'll be allowed in Europe. To be honest i've seen plenty of practices that could be done without in US reptile videos like animals that aren't for sale in completely clear boxes for hours on end sometimes over a weekend and just for them to be shown off, where they could be left at home, no stress needed and just have a picture of them on the stall to show what you might have available etc apart from the livestock you're actually selling.
No.
Ridiculous organisers response aside, rules about not taking photos and videos are in place, because of zealous, self-proclaimed environmental activists, who misrepresent and misconstrue the way the animals are kept during the show (so supposedly “small” transport enclosures, dangerous snakes with the untrue implication that the children can buy them, or showing gravely endangered species in context of smuggling- even though the specimen presented on the photos, are well documented and legal).
And these are perfectly fine in-good-faith rules, which were misused here.
Perfectly stated
Simple and professional ❤
@@inopes3628 overzealous environmental activists will infiltrate the event and take pictures anyway. They don't care about the rules or ramifications. By definition they are bad actors by intent (to speak nothing of their message) they do not care if they get banned and everyone has a phone with a high quality camera.
The rule is ignorant to the methods of the very thing it is intended to deter.
In a lot of cases those rules might also be enforced not by the organizer but by the owner of the building the expo is taking place in. I've took videos on some expos without issues but got told to stop on others so I inquired about it the first time it happened. The security then told me it's the building owner's regulation and not something the expo put in place.
As an invert event organiser myself, I honestly can’t believe what I’m hearing!! That whole thing was driven by ego and jealousy, I can’t think of any other reason for behaving in such a way!! He doesn’t realise it yet, but his behaviour will impact him and his future way more than it will yours!!
And in 2023, what kind of event bans photography and videography? What are they trying to hide? Obviously something shady going on.
You’re welcome to our event in the UK next year, I can guarantee you won’t be treated like that!!
A lot of animals get sold and bought at Hamm, all sorts of exotics. With the rising objections to keeping exotics and organisations using photos and films taken at events such as these.
I think it’s ridiculous to ban photos/filming at the event altogether. Instead they could do something about the actually shitty stuff going on at such events and tighten the rules. There are exotic species that are not fit to spend the day on a table at a busy event with thousands of strangers.
You’re right it’s exactly what I was gonna say and in 2023 somebody not allowing any kind of photography there’s obviously something really shady happening that they don’t want anybody to see or get out.
They are right on this. The vegans have a long-term opposition to the expo and are trying to misrepresent it by using photo and video evidence in a fraudulent way. Everyone has the right to ban recording at his event. It is 2023 am governments still ban recording from sensitive areas, and there is a reason for that. Museums ban recording for other reasons. Parties with adult entertainment ban recording for other reasons. Reptile expos ban or should have banned recording for their own valid reasons. Part of being an adult is also being able to recognize that you have enemies and be able to judge when it is fine to expose yourself and when not. Sadly transparency is not for everyone.
Common reasons for photo/film bans:
- usage of flash lights
- Germans have the right to *not* be photographed, esp. selfies tend to single out individuals in the background and it's practically impossible on a fair to ask everyone you might catch on a picture, be it by accident or not
- trade of exotic animals tend to incite unreasonable vitriol from (possibly) well-meaning people, but who don't know enough or anything about keeping them and/or rules and restrictions for the vendors and keepers
@@GargbossThen why was it not highlighted at registration?
Petko is a reasonable guy and I don't believe he would have done the selfies if he knew beforehand that it wasn't allowed - he did stop immediately when security advised him.
Sounds more like childishly unprofessional behaviour that backfired on him and he wasn't able to accept that he was being unreasonable so he just kept digging a hole for himself trying to make Petko look bad.
He's probably ashamed of himself but won't admit it.
This is how envy manifests itself unfortunately. You've done nothing wrong, very unprofessional on his side and this is not how an organizer handles thing at all, this is clearly malicious and I commend you for being very transparent and professional about this whole situation. 👏
Guess after you got Banned i have no Reason to go there again.
As a German i apologize for the missing Brain and Understanding from this Guy.
Rly sad that happend to you. You rly didnt deserve something like that.
I think you'r a nice Guy. Much love! 🌷🌹
Been going to Hamm for 7 years now, responded to the post he made in a friendly way, and got banned from the page, he might see the visitor numbers drop next year...
Same here 😂
@@blackbetty3958 Lisbeth :D wir beide waren richtig fleißig in den Kommentaren und wir wurden alle gekickt haha
That would only be fair!
I truly wish that hamm has maximum three visitors next year
@@Sheytopia dürfte ihm keinen Spaß gemacht haben 😂✌️
As a german I apologize for this dude. You are one of the most humble persons in Internet and the expo in Hamm should be happy if a person like you wants to join the event :(
Yeah, im shocked the organizers are such aholes
Voll der Arsch der Typ! Wenn er nur 65 als Privataussteller gezahlt hätte und dann fett seine Terrarien verkauft hätte, hätte ich gar nichts gesagt! Aber er hat ja die 142 Euro hingelegt und die arroganten Antworten vom dem Messefritz sind einfach nur unverschämt! Spricht Bände über seinen Charakter!
I stumbled upon your channel 4 years ago (holy- time flies! It feels like a couple of months), and you immediately struck me as a kind and genuine person. From one Slav to another, I am really sorry you were treated like this. You did not deserve this, especially since this could've easily been avoided had the organizers put in some actual effort and shown a shred of understanding. The rules behind this expo are baffling to me. Just the idea alone that you can't take a picture is ridiculous, and all the other things that followed were just absurd. I hope this person doesn't cause you any more grief and all this blows over, and fingers crossed that all the future expos will be better.
Im actually glad you made this video as evidence of how you went about the whole expo
That man’s ego is out of control. You handled his responses with class and professionalism.
Me and 11 friends send him a Email and we will no longer go there. Its such a bad feeling to see that happen and im really sorry for you. You still have A LOT of Fans here in Germany and WE ALL ARE WITH YOU!
A lot of Love from Germany to you and your Family! ❤❤❤
Yeah wanted to go this year for the expo (and Petko) but now I dont have a reason to plan a visit for next year. Time to search for another expo :D
@@skydragon5671 Feel free to join us in Houten :D
Here's two more German fans not interested in going to that expo anymore ❤❤
I literally told him this in emails as well.
He was going around saying I'm giving him free advertising as im telling him that i am of my own volition contacting people who have attended or already follow Hamm to expose him.
That turd doesn't even know what hes done.
He posted excerpts of your emails on facebook a few hours ago and is threatening legal action against around 20 people, he said.
I hadn't heard of your channel before, but you seem like a nice and sympathetic person and I will be following you from now on due to your interesting content and relatable personality. It can be very hard to navigate these kinds of situations, especially with the language barriers, but he definitely overreacted and should have done better. I hope you will continue doing what you do despite this situation and that you have a nice day!
Omg Petko your reenactment of what should have taken place to resolve the issue had be laughing so hard. I’m sorry to hear that you had to deal with such stupid drama created for nothing.
Such a cocky and rude king of drama that guy... WTF?
You did nothing wrong, Petko. In fact, you were more polite with him than he deserved. I'm so sorry this happened to you :(
So basically they made a mistake and blamed it on you 😢
Nah he just didn't like the commotion in his Expo (... camp ...) and banned the trouble maker .
@@Beast-sx2pe go touch grass bud 🤣
@@User39694 No . What for anyway ? Can't touch grass I'm at the beach.
The first message was a mistake. The rest of the drama was just plain bratty tantrum throwing.
@@Beast-sx2pe The expo organizer is an idiot. I mean, from the start the idea of asking a vender if they are "private" or "commercial" is confusing because that would have to depend entirely on where the expo organizers draw a line between the two. To add to that TDD isn't what anyone else would consider to be a company or "commercial" entity so the accusation of lying isn't just harsh, it's erroneous.
A saying I was told long ago that has helped me deal with people like that organizer:
“F&ck that guy”
I’m sorry you had to deal with a douche at that level. You’ve given us years of awesome entertaining content. Keep being amazing!
The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. Thank you for exposing such a dirt bag. Hopefully the expo will come under new management
You should host your own expo 🎉,
they should have thanked you for such a turnout, not ban you.
so much effort
Petko they would have put you in a different area if you were a business so there would not be the overcrowding that you mentioned. You cant say its the organisers fault for putting you in the wrong area when you are clearly a business paying taxes
im guessing people complained afterwards about the crowds and thats why they didnt approach you. You yourself mentioned its nothing to do with the fees paid.
i can go on with more points but i think you get the message. you should apologise you messed up and go to Hamm again next time after youve been forgiven
@@ibrahim-sj2crya because I'm sure the individuals and not the businesses didn't want crowds in their space. I mean, who wants potential buyers?
@@ibrahim-sj2crand I don't think he messed up, the organizer did. I mean, Petko did pay the extra money for a business and no where in any of the messages did the organizer bring up complaints about crowds. He was on a power trip who was mad about being "lied to". Maybe you're right, but dude didn't share any of the points you gave in your comment, so I doubt that was the problem.
@@calliew311 petko said he wasnt a business, people crowd business because they sell lots of stuff. profssional niche youtubers with 600k subs will bring a crowd he needed to be in a bigger area of the expo.
im making a giant leap here to understadn what has happened because i have never been to hamm or spoken to anyone involved other than petko just now
That smells like hurt ego from that dude. Someone stole his spotlight and he got salty so he kicked you out ^^
Why exactly is the organizer in the spotlight and why should he want it? That doesn't make sense at all. He didn't even know who Petko is. Everyone who's saying "he's just jealous/salty". Jealous of what or why salty at all? Petko said he's private but then later sold stuff from his shop. So he lied. It's that simple.
Keep going and keep inspiring. You are the reason I got into this hobby. Stay strong brother.
He didn’t “assume” you’re a UA-camr, somebody showed him your page and he flipped at the success.
As someone who married into a German family and has lived here for 5 years, being passive aggressive is annoyingly common here. Direct conflict is often avoided in favor of sassy notes and backhanded comments to others. Watching this video, I immediately caught myself thinking 'Yep, that sounds like a German response.'
That was definitely a petty response and unnecessary reaction, but as you said, no need to give their show your business in the future.
Well, i thought the same because i have had my own experiences like that, thinking no he couldn't have said that, i must have misunderstood, but didn't.
But I'm not German myself so could not have said it. ;)
You handled it very well by the way, being reasonable and de-escalating all the time is the right answer to that kind of behavior.
Actually I think the same.
I was living in the UK for 7 years (it was years before Brexit happened) and never settled in well anymore in Germany. I’m living here, but my heart stayed abroad.
I dislike such common narcissistic attitude over here.
And that argument feels to me like narcissistic behavior.
I’m right and don’t care what you say, cause I’m right.
I live in Austria and I am fluent in german, read this guys facebook post myself because the translation hides one important thing. His arrogance. There is a new post where he lists everything again and immediately contradicts himself by saying "I did not name any names" and then one of the last points literally mentions Petko. Read through more posts to get a better image (also the screenshots of the messages from the video add to it) and the more I read the more it confirmed that they feel like they have some sense of authority or feel more important than anyone else just because they are the organizator.
Also the no photo or video rule seems very stupid? I am not working with animals or have any pets but I doubt it'd bother them? So this must be a rule against youtubers, again, in their list of points they mentioned they have nothing against youtubers, why would you mention it if it wasn't evident already.
Petko did nothing wrong and if this person was one bit professional they would have talked to him and cleared up the confusion and told Petko which table to get next time, hell he even paid for the business table but they banned him straight up.
I tell you it must be the arrogance and perhaps even jealousy that so many showed up at Petkos table and took photos. Their messages to Petko proves this as well. Massive boomer energy.
I second this, as someone who can read German, the posts are quite arrogantly written. By the way, you can always use Deep L Translator to read the German text and get them translated into English - so in case this stirs up further you can at least have a better glimpse of what he is talking. I do enjoy your content and keep up the work! If you come back to Germany, announce in your channel!
on the photography point, flash photography *could* disrupt the animals, but so long as no one is doing that then it has zero effect on the animals. absolutely no reason to ban photography (unless its something to do with legality in local law about private property or something silly like that because i imagine the expo is hosted on a privately owned property)
It's not a rule against UA-camrs that no pictures are allowed but to protect the rights of German citizens to not get photographed and to prevent any out of context photos for animal activists
@@julianschmidt1338 Must be stricter in germany then, in Austria people take pictures regardless but mostly keep it for themselves and family.
Young little boy jealousy thought he was cool being a coordinator of an event.. meanwhile a UA-camr comes and blow his coolness out of the water... and the jealous little boy retaliates the only way he can..
"Go away and don't come back or ill tell my daddy on u"
I am so sorry that it went like that. That guy just seems like a real asshole and really shady. God he makes me so angry, how can someone talk so much garbage, gaslight you and be SO MEAN. It's not like you did something illegal. HE did because he didn't refund you the money because you legitimately don't go under business. I am from germany and i know how specific and often picky people are when it comes to stuff like that. But he had NO reason to react like that. He wouldn't have gotten any legal problems and he also got money from you, an amount you didn't have to pay. It just shows how petty that dude is for banning you because he thinks you lied to him. Now i don't want to visit that expo ever because i will not support such a petty human being. He was SO RUDE and hurtful, just disgusting!! I feel so sorry for you though, you were so excited for it 😢 i hope you still had a nice time when you were there and please don't let such an idiot ruin your experience you had with the people there and the fun you still had ❤❤
Ich wohne nicht weit entfernt von Hamm und war vor Jahren einmal dort auf der Expo, die wirklich gut ist. ABER das geht gar nicht! Warum hat dieser Typ nicht genug Ar*ch in der Hose, die Situation an Ort und Stelle zu klären? Steckt sich das Geld ein und schreibt feige eine Mail und postet auf FB. Hätte er etwas Köpfchen, würde er wissen, dass noch mehr Leute kommen würden, wenn Petko das ist…🫣
Ich schäme mich für dieses Verhalten, ehrlich…
Perhaps Petko should start his own Expo. He already has the following.
Just a thought.
@@babysnakes1433 that's an expo i would happily go to 😊👍👍
The only reason I would go to that expo is to wait outside without paying, until I see the guy, tell him how much of a dick everyone sees him as, (I’m sure he knows now though) and then leave.
I thing many people (especially from the older generation) have a problem with UA-camrs or people who have more reach than they do. It is super unprofessional how the organizer handled it and I can only agree with the comment above.
This makes me so mad! 🤬 I hate seeing good people treated so horribly! i'm so sorry this happened to you... you don't deserve this! That man is completely unprofessional!!
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Meanwhile, Show Me Snakes' Tarantula Takeover welcomed you with open arms and a space that anticipated a larger crowd with extra table space, a corner spot to allow for a line, space for photos, etc.
they just lost a lot of future visitors.
Have been to Hamm, the only reason I can find for the photo ban is to prevent criticism of the way the animals are treated. One time was enough
The way he writes: "liars do not belong with us" is just so stupendous. He aint even trying to understand ur message
I'm really sorry to hear all that. I am from Germany and wanted to drive 6ish hours to come visit the expo and meet you but it was on the same day as my best friends wedding so I obviously couldn't come :D and now hearing all that I am happy I didn't go - and know I will never go there.
As you already mentioned I'm one of the people who was so scared of spiders and now after watching your videos weekly and going to a tiny expo once in my town a few years ago I started getting more comfortable around spiders. yeah. I truly believe you and TarantulaKat helped me with overcoming that fear!
Anyways love your videos, just keep doing what you do
Failing to accomodate the possible crowding of certain audiences in an event definitely fell to the organizer's lack of foresight, so I dont think theres any reason for you to apologize on that front
Agreed, it’s not his fault they didn’t organise their event properly.
They couldn't know or anticipate it because they didn't know I have a big following. Even I didn't expect that many people. But the certainly should have and could have handled it better after they seen that there's a crowd.
@@TheDarkDentbh its hard for me to believe an event organizer of all people couldnt recognize a content creator with more than half a million following lol, but I guess this kind of stuff do happen time to time
@@fulnaz3164 If Pedro didn't mention beforehand (as in during the signing up) that he was a content creator the organisator has no/little to no way of knowing. Especially if the reservation goes on Pedro his full name instead of his alias. Having said that they could have handled this way better and the whole payment ordeal/lieing accusation is disgusting.
@HerrowItsMeme Pedro? You mean petko?
Hey petko, i'm the guy who got you Haribo Goldbären and who came back for an enclosure after doing some impulse buying lol. I'm sorry to hear about your experience at the expo and honestly seeing the messages makes it sound like an honest mistake, so the reaction seems entirely overblown and ego-driven. Hopefully this will end here. I do hope you come back to germany sometime - it'd be super cool to hang out with everyone again. Idk If you noticed but we made some friends with each other while waiting for you haha.
Also seeing your enthusiasm for wind turbines made me really happy as a renewable energy engineering student lol :D
I have followed your channel for a few years now. I love your content and attitude. I’ve learned a lot from your channel and the ways you keep your tarantulas. It’s been a fun journey to watch your channel grow and evolve. We (the fans and keepers) love you. Haters will always hate on other’s success. Lots of love from the USA!
ive been subbed to you for probably 8 years now and i swear you are one of if not the nicest youtuber out there. i mean hell you post it all here, the good and the bad and are emotionally open about everything so its very believeable if you were confused they should've just worked with you and been cool but nah they took the low road. i hope they shake back man
Your whole German community is behind you! The Expo is boycotted! I think I speak for every fan from Germany that you are always welcome here, even if the meeting takes place at a rest area :D
Is it actually boycotted ? That would be nice. As a german myself i can feel the "Neidkultur"
Not really.
@@MightBeSmart it should be for having terrible business practices
Youre speaking out of my heart
@@smarft by individuals ... yes... not by everyone. There are many people who won't care...
You did nothing wrong. Fully on your side here 🕷️
Petko they would have put you in a different area if you were a business so there would not be the overcrowding that you mentioned. You cant say its the organisers fault for putting you in the wrong area when you are clearly a business paying taxes
im guessing people complained afterwards about the crowds and thats why they didnt approach you. You yourself mentioned its nothing to do with the fees paid.
i can go on with more points but i think you get the message. you should apologise you messed up and go to Hamm again next time after youve been forgiven
@@ibrahim-sj2cr Sure, but if Petko is being honest and he paid for the business table, then the organizer should have put him at a table he paid for, or arranged for him to move when the mistake was realized. So in the end, he paid for a table he didn't get to use, and got banned due to a misunderstanding.
@@ibrahim-sj2cr He paid for the business stand and they never even offered a refund for it, so the fault is with them, should have put him where he paid for!
@@Jhaiisiin sounds like petko paid for the commercial table by mistake and then didnt bother to reclaim the difference.
other stall holders probably complained to the organisers afterwards there coul d be many reasons why it ended up the way it did, petko is jumping to conclusions and he has made it difficult to go back
@@wolfe1970 there wouldnt be overcrowding if he was in a different area.
lie is harsh but for certain petko made a big mistake and he is aware in the video that the neighbouring stalls were upset.
petko probably paid the full commercial fee by accident because he isnt fluent in german no one overpays on purpose unless they are tipping or giving loose change away
I'm not going either! You are an inspiration to the hobby, you don't add drama/stress to your Ts just for views, you are informed and passionate about it!
I had plans to drive there, but NOPE. Not if they treat people like this.
"You paid too much for a table, you're banned."
How can he threaten to sue you when theres others posting photos? Im from the UK and just checked out the expo on facebook and theres multiple posts including photos of people at the expo. Alot of them promoting business and also even tagged the expo in the post. I wonder if they are getting the same messages. Its nasty and unprofessional. Dont let it get to you, there will be plenty of expos that will have you with open arms. Its just a shame some people think this sort of drama is needed and ok, when its childish and pathetic!
Some people get a tiny bit of power and suddenly think they’re hot shit! You have a huge audience and a lot of fans, imagine how beneficial it could be to the expo they actually worked with you instead of being petty and jealous. It sucks this happened, but you’re better off not having to associate with such a creep. We love you, Petko!
Pekto, I'm so sorry for your experience! I can not believe how unprofessional that manager handled that situation...
Your response was so kind and understanding, you were simply addressing the confusion for clarity. Then he proceeds to be VERY petty and make a whole post about it. Very very embarrassing on his part
Seriously, the owner is the real circus here. Never heard of a bigger clown. He was obviously in a power trip and decided to take frustration out on you, Petco. You're clearly so respectful and considerate, and I'm sorry you had to deal with such a man child. Z
Yikes it's like they're jealous and petty but you are right, it's their show. Let them be. At the end of the day, you know the truth Petko. ✌️
The organizer sounds very petty 😂
You are such an amazing human, keep being you! It’s their major loss having such a quality person representing the community in such a positive way. You took the high ground and stayed professional. Very proud of you 👏🏻
You didn’t do anything wrong
That’s a ridiculous reaction of the guy running the show.
I live near Hamm and usually go 4 times a year to every show, knowing what a person he is now kinda puts me off going again.
I’ll leave my money elsewhere :/
And thats the fallout this guy doesn't get. His actions on how he treats paying clients, will spread and less people will want to to buy tables next time. Also the fact that Petko over paid and was never refunded, is stealing and petko could legally hold them accountable for that. If the laws over there protect buyers from scammers, that is.
If anything that guy should worry about Petko exposing that they stole from him and then banned him. That's a horrible look for any person trying to run an event.
I have no idea why this guy didn't confront you before deciding to ban you. It makes no sense why he wouldn't come to you with his grievances before punishing you
Maybe he is a coward?
@@frankanderson9833was thinking the exact same thing. What a douchebag.
Yeah like Petko said and so brilliantly acted out, it could’ve been handled to much better by simply.. asking.
I thought this was the German way of doing things. My experience with them has been similar so far.
@@frankanderson9833 Ding ding ding, we've got a winner
Just watched. I am sure I share the same sentiment as many of us. There is “lying”, “communication” and money. You didn’t lie, because you didn’t understand, the communication is misunderstood because of him, and money… he got money for every person that showed up to support you. Like when you address someone, do you turn away and address everyone else? No. You face forward. Cheers, appreciate your content.
Really nice additions you came back with, don’t stress the other stuff and come to the BTS next year!!! Looking forward to you live on Sunday…🤘🏼
I am from Austin, Texas USA. And have been silently watching your channel for over a year now. By hobby has been mainly reptiles and reef tanks but watching your enjoyment and true passion for spiders has made me realize just how awesome they are and I'm looking to get into this hobby too. Ive made it half way through the video and I had to pause it and come comment to you. You are 100% right! and you didn't do anything wrong! That guys behavior is suspicious to say the least. He had no reason to act or treat you that way. from reading his words and seeing how he responded its clear as day that he is jealous and envious of the success you have made for yourself, and for whatever reason he has this bad UA-cam imagine he has created in he's mind. If I were to guess he used this as his excuse to ban you. Just know that assholes like this unfortunately are a part of life but you have a whole team of people who support you. keep your head up! don't let this guy get you down.
Oof, well as a result of his attempted smear campaign, the entire truth is out and as the internet does, people will judge accordingly. I’m not sure he’s ready for that backlash. It’s obviously pretty clear that your understanding of what should have happened, should have happened.
17:32 the organizer publishes Petko's name just after saying he didn't give out any names
You've really had it rough for a while man, sorry to hear about the events that ocurred after the expo, but it's nice you got togo and sell some stuff and meet a lot of your fans.
Welcome to Germany... Stupid rules are the most important thing ever! "Kasperle" basically means Joker. Sad your experience turned out to be bad in the end. Hope the situation clears up and you get to come back in the future, if not to Hamm to another expo 😢
Petko will be back but to other smaller expos :)
This guy doesnt deserve to have Petko back
@@techa.p.8856 TBH, this guy deserves to go under.
I don't think it was about the rules. It sounds more like the 'established' guys were salty that an amateur (in their eyes) got so much more attention during THEIR event. Even worse, an 'amateur who has no idea what he's doing and f*cks around on youtube' (in their view, not mine).
I've seen that kind of behavior in other communities and hobbies too often. Which is why I don't socialize about my hobbies anymore, there is always one or more people who think they have to one-up the others, or make sure that everyone knows that only they know how it's done right. I'm too old for that kindergarten shit.
Either way, I can't get over the implication about you threatening to sic your followers on them. What a little bitch.
"That unimposing, mild-mannered Croatian dude totally threatened me with his followers, wah"
Well that guy just killed his own expo in the future. Bitter over people buying from you and not him or his friends. RIP that expo
I am genuinely sorry you had to deal with all of this. I spent years as a customer relations manager and have dealt with hundreds of different personalities over the years, and I can tell you one thing: the entire exchange with the organizer was not about the expo or any of its rules or regulations. As you already guessed, it was about his ego and narcissism. I've dealt with people like him before, and believe me, there is nothing you can do to convince him that he's in the wrong. His type should never be allowed to have direct dealings with the public. Save your energy Petko and don't let anything he said get under your skin. You are a person of integrity and anyone who watches your channel or has followed your career already knows this.
Envy is a poison that only works if you take it.
You know that you are not a liar, so don't be affected by anything an envious person or narcissist tells you. The best thing you can do is ignore him, don't give him importance. Let him suffer from your success!!! 😊
You are such a gem of a person. At least the drama happened after and not before. You still got to enjoy the expo and meet all the wonderful people. I’m glad that is also your takeaway from this experience. Shame on them. ❤
That sucks, this seems like a situation that could've easily been resolved. Shame the dude decided to insta ban you
Petko they would have put you in a different area if you were a business so there would not be the overcrowding that you mentioned. You cant say its the organisers fault for putting you in the wrong area when you are clearly a business paying taxes
im guessing people complained afterwards about the crowds and thats why they didnt approach you. You yourself mentioned its nothing to do with the fees paid.
i can go on with more points but i think you get the message. you should apologise you messed up and go to Hamm again next time after youve been forgiven
@@ibrahim-sj2cr I was there and because one part of that location was under construction i dont think there would have been another area. Maybe more on a side but all the big business were right near the entrance also not a good place for a crowd. And even if that would have been the problem it could have been solved way more professional then an insta ban and a social media post.
@@ibrahim-sj2cr you’re related to the expo guy aren’t you.
@@ibrahim-sj2cr it’s still a misunderstanding. Which is his fault yes, he has apologised for it. The point of the video though was not to resolve himself from his blame in the misunderstanding but rather to comment on how unprofessionally it was handled.
No matter if it was a mistake or not it should’ve been handled with professionalism. They should have approached him when they realised there was a problem and have it resolved.
The Hamm guy seems to have a serious bias against UA-camrs.
So is petko in the wrong regarding the private/business? Yes.
Is it a big deal? No.
@@ibrahim-sj2cr Who are you really? Because you have also lied or contradicted yourself immediately.
You said "They (i.e. the organisers) would have put you in a different area if you were a business".
And then you say "You can't say it's the organiser's fault for putting you in the wrong area". You literally just said it was the organiser's responsibility.
So you paid the fee for commercial... and you got banned for being private?
Well that doesn't make sense... even if you thought you were private and sent information to state that, in the end the fee you paid was for commercial and you should have been treated as such.
The fact that he wasn’t questioning on this discrepancy, before the expo is fishes as all get out?
Or maybe German business practices are just different than in the states
@@teshin626 right? Seems a little like entrapment
It my eyes..it's theift. He didn't get what he paid for. Even if it was a mistake. If I paid for a first class seat on a plane, when I meant to buy a regular seat, and they still put me in that regular seat and not first class, AND still kept my money? I'd be raging.
Point blank.. this convention stole from Petko and then banned him. That is a horrible thing to do to anyone and the public deserves to know about it. Cause he can treat others the same way as Petko. It's bad business.
I emailed them about honesty.
They took email down so didn't go through.
This guy doesn't have any idea of how this situation will make his event frowned upon... Too bad for him. You're one of the sweetest youtuber I know on this platform! 😉
The Terraristika is the most overcrowded expo i‘ve ever seen, so probably they dont even care about to be „frowned upon“
You are 100% right. Totally wrong and unprofessional from the organizer. Beginners don't make mistakes like the one he made. Shame on him
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Especially because you really wanted to go and were so excited for it.
Sorry that happened to you. You’re clearly very nice and clear in your intentions and take care of your family (pets)
“You are not that important”……….while having a line of people at your stand to meet you.
Dude that Expo Manager guy was such a Karen 🙄 I’m so sorry that you were treated this way! Sadly SOME German people are the most jealous and petty people out there!
I am so excited to see jumping spiders in the Dark Den again. Really sucks that the expo had to be like that but at least you know now which one to avoid in the future.
I’m so sorry that happened. I guess They couldn’t handle the power of the dark den ❤😂
My friend and I were even discussing going to the expo just to meet you - it’s truly a shame the organisers are acting like this. I’d bet I’m not the only person who doesn’t normally make the effort to go to expos in person but who would actually consider it if Petko was also there. Handled better this could have been a benefit for the whole show (and every other seller because of more potential customers). Well there go my travel plans I guess-
I'm glad I met you in Hamm! Thanks for the autograph. I'm sorry that you had such a stupid experience with us in Germany :/ But I'm proud to have seen you once! :)) I'm a huge fan!
Leave it to a German organizer to be the most pedantic ''Erbsenzähler''. I am sorry this happened to you and I can only hope the guy realizes his error and revokes his questionable decision. (after reading further into it, never mind that)
As someone who really would have loved to visit you in Hamm (I am maybe 2 hours away), I hope I get another chance at meeting you somewhere and tell you in person what a great channel you have.
Best wishes from a German that doesn't talk with his own ''Kasperle'' up his butt
What? Some other German said Kasperle meant Joker. That doesn't fit with your comment. Does it mean something else as well?
In this contest, when the organizer of Hamm wrote it, Kasperle means more like you are acting like doing a theatre for children. And is ment like an insult, like you aren't a grownup. Actually the real "Kasperle" is a famos Charakter in puppet-theatre for children.
@@kerstinapedo that explains it, sounded like a name to me and now it makes sense.
Lol. I was like- typical German. 😅 sorry, but you guys are known for being strict about rules.
@@rottebarnethellen yes, you right, we are known for being stright about rules. 😉 This sometimes is really exhausting but it also has good sides. Belongs to the point of view.
the matter of fact that they removed the post, shows how wrong they were for acting and making a post like that
I would personally look at other enclosure manufacturers that were at the show and see if he has one in his pocket, as in investments in your competition
So instead of just talking to you and solving this issue like an adult, they hid behind Facebook messenger and then proceeded to slander you on their page. I've known about this expo for a while and planned on going, but I think I'll skip it now if that's how they treat vendors, because odds are you're not the first, definitely won't be the last. They're probably just making this much noise about it because you're a UA-camr.
I'm sorry they treated you like that, that person needs to be kicked off the organisation committee because they've clearly got an ego problem.
Your going to run into issues like this more and more the larger you get. Don’t let it affect you.
They had to delete the post and turn off commenting on their Facebook because they know damn well they screwed up.
They don't ... they are still kidding about the situation intern.
@@blackbetty3958oh yeah. The dudes ego is WAY too massive to ever fully accept it. But with all the backlash, they know. Even if it’s just in the back of their minds lmao
Thank you for the heads up, i shal avoid going anywhere near that toxic place! Appreciate your open honesty!
The people of Saint Louis, Missouri and Central Illinois still support you. The fact that you took time to speak with my son for his UA-cam channel during your visit, shows what a good person you are. Keep up the great work!
Agreed! It was so great having him here, so many of our staff loved meeting with Petko! He's such a down to earth guy, there's no way this issue couldn't have been settled reasonably.
One more reason to come to Poland ;) But that situation is really weird. The fact that this misunderstanding was handled so poorly is really confusing.
They were definitely jealous that your table got all the attention. So unprofessional!
sounds like a total power trip on his part