Hey, learn how to clear cookies and cache using a Binary Drive System and don't forget to go by a Museum to get the parts, if you can find one,, 001,000,100, can be anything, have a little heart, and be awe struck, it older then you are, and mileage is off your scale, have a good day
given the limited space and communication methods it makes sense to tell the story in binary... we wont know until they release the raw binary data. it has everything it needs to learn, but more than half of its resources would be used if it wanted to write compile and run its own software... not impossible just we wouldnt have any way to explain how. a ghost in the machine. over time weird things happen with electronic circuits. and many things can explain it away. something like voyager needs to maintain its mission and operations... it wouldnt be allowed to be sentient. the other one will likely be crashed to earth. the best thing to do is have a copy... and let one exist with the glitch. and have another tail along to observe it and monitor more things with updated ideas. 🤓🙏 i hope we get photos some how.
Voyagers may be the finest most dependable objects humanity has ever made! Im so glad to see it will live a little longer, i was 3 months old when they launched, they've been with me for its entirety.
@@johnbuyers8095 I cannot disagree. As a plumber I can tell you today's water heater last 10-15 years. I refurbished my water heater the other day, looked up the serial number, manufactured in 1989, still working fine!
It hurts the brain to think that even long after we’re all gone, and nothing but a distant memory, voyager will still be travelling the universe, experiencing things we could only ever dream about
@@sherifitzgerald6886 not being pessimistic mate.. just right now the world is in tear oil and who knows.. we might end up back to the Stone Age the way things are going.. only time will tell I guess 😁😁😁
Unbelievable! Voyager 1 is still operating and sending signals to Earth after more than 4 decades. 😲 A testament to the persistence of technology and human desire to explore. I have also researched this issue a lot.
And a time when people worked together before corporations made stock prices and profits more important than people and quality. NASA and companies were run by engineers not bean counters. NASA still does an incredible job.
they didnt reliaze that the radio isotope half life would increase as the suns radiation hits it plus random radiation in space thats why they should just turn on everything on voyoger and let vger become sentinet
I am inordinately fond of these two little guys as they migrate their way thru deep dark space... and its deeply impressive how the NASA engineers kept at it till they found a fix to reset #1 😊
Your basic Indomitable Human Spirit. We'll keep trying everything that might work till there's nothing left to try. Then we'll try things that might not work.
I think it's time to send out another Voyager Imagine with today's technology how much faster, further, longer, and stronger the craft and signals could be.
Sorry to inform you, but today's "voyagers"' don't have a chance of being operational for that long. On the other hand, they are more effective during their lifetime.
Imagine the voyager 1 stopped sending signals, and then after a few thousand years, it suddenly resumes, confusing modern scientist because the language(code) it sends is already ancient and nobody knows it except for one archeologist who studies ancient computers. the last message was a few hundred years ago it says: _"we are coming"_
"2 whole days" for data to be sent 30 billion miles. Dude, that's over 90% of the speed of light. Just insane - what an astounding thing to watch at 8am.
@@walkerhjk I appreciate the input. My exclamation was neither corrective nor demeaning, only amazement. Being unfamiliar with the specifics of those individual transmissions, I did the quick math at 48 hours, but sounds like it was a few hours shy.
This is so insane to me to. Technology from the 70s not only still working but the fact we’re also able to communicate with it at this distance is wild NASA engineers are fucking computer gods
That's truly fascinating! Voyager 1 continues to amaze us with its capabilities, even from the depths of interstellar space. This incredible achievement not only highlights the marvels of human engineering but also keeps us connected to the mysteries of the universe.
It's heart warming to know a piece of old NASA is still killing it in deep space 50 years later - the brilliant, artisan NASA I grew up with, the NASA that would never have allowed Columbia off the launch pad the day of that avoidable tragedy. To say they "really knew how to build them" back then, doesn't' even begin to express how wide the gap between old and new NASA.
@@markwakeley3835yeah.... it's all fine and well, except🤷♂️ The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) launched into space on December 25, 2021, on an Ariane 5 rocket from Europe's Spaceport in French Guiana, South America. The rocket separated from the observatory 27 minutes into the flight, releasing the observatory at an altitude of approximately 75 miles (120 kilometers). The telescope folded up inside the rocket as it launched and will gradually unfurl as it travels to its destination beyond the Moon. V1 and 2 are basically doing the same but with a 44 year head start. The engineering feats of the 60s and 70s out pace current government engineers. F1 rocket motor from Saturn V, they cannot make a functioning one because of the loss of tech and how manufactured. Oh and in a parting note, The JWST has more than 344 possible single points of failure in the system, meaning if anything went wrong it could jeopardize the entire mission.😒
Voyager only got as far as it did because the planets were in perfect alignment to do gravity assists when launched. The planets won't align like that again for hundreds of years.
That’s what I be saying. Especially when our car fobs have more compute power than the voyagers itself! I know space exploration fundings got cut throughout the years, but I’m like if we don’t get anything new up there, we’re gonna be waiting even longer for data- counting the probe’s travel in space and everything.
Love this. I'm old enough that I remember my parents having me sit by the TV to watch the first moon landing. I had posters on my wall of "How to be an astronaut" and the planets. for the last 20+ years I've been an ESL teacher (English for non-native English speakers), and I ALWAYS teach them "My Excellent Mother Just Made Us Noodles" (Pluto is gone, so I improvised): M-Mercury, V-Venus, E-Earth, M-mars, J-Jupiter, U-Uranus, N-Neptune. Within a few days, I will quiz them, "what is the 5th planet? Jupiter". They love it.
You're not doing your pupils any favors by telling them a mnemonic that misses out the Asteroid Belt and Pluto. Better to use Heinlein's catchy 'Mother Very Thoughtfully Made A Jelly Sandwich Under No Protest.' T being Terra, A is Asteroids.
It's absolutely fascinating that Voyager 1, a probe launched in 1977 with the primitive computing power of just 68 KB of memory, continues to send back data from 15.5 billion miles away! This survival and functionality beyond its original mission life not only celebrate human ingenuity but also pose an interesting question: What other 'old' technologies out there are still secretly outperforming our expectations? Could this teach us something about our current approaches to technology development?
I've observed a similar principle of simplicity as longevity in my espresso maker. My simpler machine, the Stilosa, is easier to maintain and fix if something goes wrong because it has the bare minimum of software compared with the Dedica. The Dedica is more difficult to fix because it's slightly more complex.
10:00 I doubt that any kind of advanced civilization will spot the Voyagers. Space is gargantuanly huge. The closest a Voyager will approach a star is in its Oort cloud, which itself is gargantuanly huge.
if only it had some kind of beacon on it, if we ever made a successor, it would have to be a recreation with redundancy and reliability tested based on what we have learned so far, have more efficiency due to refined manufacturing, potentially extending lifespan by orders of magnitude by relying on fewer watts to stay active, would ideally blink some message with some weak ir leds/lasers off into space, and that message would likely be binary code, as that concept is fairly easy to pick up on, we estimate, even for a non human advanced race to recognize based on general computing, there might be differences in allocations for byte sizes, but we could at least encode the messages in bursts with obvious pauses in between for ease of noticing the segment sizes, which would theoretically make it even easier to decode how to read it, and the message could be something as simple as a bitmap of a few low resolution depictions of earth and our solar system, much like a previous thing we did with data sent to space to see if anyone is listening, only this would be broadcast in ir instead of rf, and would travel SOL instead of the slightly slower rf speed. other improvements could be the use of fpgas, which allow for complete circuit restructuring in the case an individual transistor fails, we can zero out a unit, read it back, write all ones, read it back, determine where fault lies, and reprogram to not use that individual transistor, unlike voyagers 1 and 2 which had to disuse an entire memory bank from a single gate failure. At least, that's what I think would be ideal for a voyager successor, perhapse even including some kind of onboard computer interface and some data with absolutely minial input to output a few selected items, such as actual video recordings of our dictionaries with images when button 1 is pressed, images of our greatest scientific achievements and diagrams when button 2 is pressed, and yet more recordings of our planet, alongside images taken from our probes on mars, images taken from the moon. images of the sky relative to the moon, general things that would help them know where the point of origin is. IF potential contact of an intersteller race was considered, this "blackbox of humanity" would make the golden record look like a kiddy drawing.
@@SlavTiger I wonder how New Horizons will fare. Will it have the same robustness allowing it to continue sending back data on the interstellar medium for the next 40+ years? It would have been nice to photograph the position of Betelgeuse for parallax, but apparently that would burn out its light receptors. Maybe that might be the last thing they do before shutting down is imaging system. Or maybe they could find a faint supergiant star for which they could still measure parallax, to give the astronomers necessary info on their actual power output.
9:17 The song “Delyo Haidutin” performed by the Rhodopean singer Valya Balkanska (Bulgaria) is included on the Voyager Golden Record on the US Space Probe Voyager 1 and 2 as part of the heritage humanity sent to the outer space to look for contact with other civilizations.
I was born 11 years AFTER these probes launched, but it's no less fascinating. Man... I bet aliens already kinda know that there's a planet full of violent, psychotic apes in the Sol system, and stay away as a result but it'd be cool someday if they showed up with a probe or 2 (or 10) in tow like "hey quit leaving your shit laying around"
for anyone who doesnt understand how reprogramming can 'skip' memory cells, the trick is 'where is the bad memory', then as the executable code (binary level stuff) starts to 'approach' using memory, the programmers plop a 'goto' instruction, ie 'go to' the remainingGOOD memory. the executable program thus has UNUSED ALL ZEROS or whatever coinciding with the damaged area. IT NEVER GOES TO THAT AREA OF THE CODE BECAUSE ITS TOLD TO SKIP PAST IT.
“NASAR” and “DATAR” killed me 😂😂😂. The accent. Haha. A gf of mines father was one of the lead scientists on Vger. Genius fella. Never got to meet him but heard amazing stories. So cool. This thing left when i was born
It’s a good job we have clever scientists and computer engineers, the foresight of someone to provide an area on the computer for corrupt data to be moved to is truly amazing!!
Oh my childish glee when I heard the phrase "the probe's radioisotope thermoelectric generator's." I was saying to myself the only way that thing could be so far from earth and consistent solar energy (and still operate) is nuclear energy, if they choose an isotope with slow decay. I have a scientific mind but I have severe ADHD and studying and completing any task for that matter is extremely difficult. I wish I could get my my doctorate, I wish I could work for NASA or SPACEX but I am always sabotaging myself 😢 I am smart and stupid at the same time. It's painful. But little validating moments like this keep me breathing.
They do indeed don't make things like they used to. Now they make them better than they used to. Nostalgia blinders serve to weaken us, not empower us.
I wish we had like cryosleep or warplike engines, or both and could just go out on a journey to other solarsystems. I wouldn't say no to a trip like that
I don't believe 1970's technolloy could be that good to still be working. Considering the technology and equipment we have today makes the seventies stuff seem like prehistoric,
1950's to 1970's hardware is very robust. Today's tech is very flimsy in comparison. An iPhone wouldn't make it to the ISS and back unless it was kept in a 200# lead box. 🤣🤣
Yes and no, to save energy most functions have been turned off but we still receive info and can communicate with both which is astounding considering they thought the lifespan wld be 4 years or so ....
Try a google scholar search on Voyager results. We (PWS) publish a few papers every year on things like the plasma density and dust distribution in the very local interstellar medium.
WOW! It's amazing that the two Voyagers are still out there , working(be it, at a limited capacity) But still on mission. I was just a teenager of 15 when they were launched, and still remember that day my first semester in high school and my science teacher talked about it and was very excited! But the fact they're still working is a testament to the people at NASA! And it will be a sad day when they finally go dark.
It's truly amazing that it has exceeded it's life's span from just 4 years to 47 years old!! WOW! You ask how, what and why keeps it going? Amazing!! Blessings
So it looks like Star Trek The Motion Picture was a documentary. Something tells me that is the computer system was more modern, it would have crashed and burned by now, so having this "ancient" technology is actually better for it's future.
Hi, am interested in knowing what the power of the transmitter is in watts at the spacecraft, and what the receive power at earth is in watts per square meter, and what antenna is used to receive the data and what is the amount of power total received by such a large dish in watts, and how is communication even possible using such a tiny amount of power, what techniques are used to transmit and receive the data?
The transmitter on the probes is 23 watts, but by the time it reaches us the signal is less than one attowatt (a billionth of a billionth of a watt) according to NASA. We use an array of huge radio dishes to receive the signal, it's all pretty amazing.
@@ilovethe70s i'm wondering if the signaling data rate is decreased in order to increase signal to noise ratio to receive the faint signal? Is the same symbol sent repeatedly and the receiver integrates over a certain time interval to increase signal-to-noise ratio of a given symbol when it's being received?
I was in grade 10 in high school when they were launched, it's truly amazing that they are still functional. The hard drive is the old platter type, the equivalent to an old IDE hard drive in your old, obsolete computer, they fail all the time.
There are no hard drives in the Voyager probes; they use a reel to reel data recorder with 1/2" 8-track tape. They were shut off many years ago to save power though so they are no longer functional. They were used for buffering photos and science data so they could be transmitted back to Earth.
When will you be able to test and upoload af-tests of the new firmware? Please do it with wide aperture lenses as well, not only with the kit lens :) Thanks for your content, it's awesome!
so how would it be possible for anything to get these messages off of the probes ? We wouldn't be able to get them off it, the voyager would crash would be the only way we could get it if something sent one our way especially going that fast
the device is simple and reprogrammable enough that soft workarounds can fix hardware faults to a much larger extent than a lot of modern devices, one memory bank fails? split data across remaining functional banks. Part of computer a and part of redundancy computer B fail? Did the same part on both fail? Try to split function across what still works on each. I love the concept of soft bypasses like that.
Basically all they had to do was clear cookies and cache 😂
Hey, learn how to clear cookies and cache using a Binary Drive System and don't forget to go by a Museum to get the parts, if you can find one,, 001,000,100, can be anything, have a little heart, and be awe struck, it older then you are, and mileage is off your scale, have a good day
The clearly pressed the wrong button :)
😂
or a windows update lol
So crazy to think about where that little probe could be and the things it might see. Truly an amazing piece of technology.
Absolutely. Wouldn't be cool if there were a continous video feed.
It's crazy that there's still supposedly fully grown functioning adults that think space is real
@@David-cv1se lol...right dude. The DMT elves give you this information?
@truthorpropaganda9001 I have no idea who that is just as you can't physically prove your fantasy land of space exists
@@David-cv1se Are you a flat earther?
15.5 BILLION miles away.
Not just around the corner for us.
But a ‘gnat’s hair’ distance in cosmic terms.
It would take a full day to catch up to the voyager if you were traveling at the speed of light.
Please help me I'm the one has been looking for helping
@@davidmiskathat’s crazy and that tells you that it has thousands of years to get to the closest start system. Space distance is unimaginable big.
Voyager 1: I have achieved sentience
NASA: What nonsense is this? Fix the glitch immediately!
My first thought. Little dude was trying to express wonders of the cosmos
given the limited space and communication methods it makes sense to tell the story in binary...
we wont know until they release the raw binary data.
it has everything it needs to learn, but more than half of its resources would be used if it wanted to write compile and run its own software... not impossible just we wouldnt have any way to explain how. a ghost in the machine.
over time weird things happen with electronic circuits. and many things can explain it away. something like voyager needs to maintain its mission and operations... it wouldnt be allowed to be sentient.
the other one will likely be crashed to earth. the best thing to do is have a copy... and let one exist with the glitch. and have another tail along to observe it and monitor more things with updated ideas. 🤓🙏
i hope we get photos some how.
Star Trek The Motion Picture - Looked how that ended! 🧐
Voyagers may be the finest most dependable objects humanity has ever made!
Im so glad to see it will live a little longer, i was 3 months old when they launched, they've been with me for its entirety.
Built back in the day when stuff was designed to last longer than 17 seconds past the three year warranty 😂
@@johnbuyers8095 I cannot disagree. As a plumber I can tell you today's water heater last 10-15 years. I refurbished my water heater the other day, looked up the serial number, manufactured in 1989, still working fine!
Long after the planet is gone it will be flying though space
@davidwestwater2219 lol facts may not be working then but it'll be crusing alone in space somewhere 😂
Meanwhile my Phone dies after 2 years....
Because they are made that way, so you can buy a new one... :(
Wow. Wish my phones lasted 2 years.
To be fair, modern smartphones are way more complicated and capable than this probe.
@@demonsangellsto be fair, it's intentional
i keep buying used old products and restoring them for a reason. Enshittification is real.
It hurts the brain to think that even long after we’re all gone, and nothing but a distant memory, voyager will still be travelling the universe, experiencing things we could only ever dream about
I don't think we will live long enough to learn about space.
It’s for future generations to learn….. not us.. not in a looong time.. sadly 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
So pessimistic...
We are alive NOW and learning as we grow...
Lighten up lol...
✌🌎😉
Speak for yourself I'm gonna live forever
@@sherifitzgerald6886 not being pessimistic mate.. just right now the world is in tear oil and who knows.. we might end up back to the Stone Age the way things are going.. only time will tell I guess 😁😁😁
I think we will live long enough to where a lot of people get to go to mars and live there... at least some of us.
V’ger is now self aware
Excellent!
Unbelievable! Voyager 1 is still operating and sending signals to Earth after more than 4 decades. 😲 A testament to the persistence of technology and human desire to explore. I have also researched this issue a lot.
And a time when people worked together before corporations made stock prices and profits more important than people and quality. NASA and companies were run by engineers not bean counters. NASA still does an incredible job.
they didnt reliaze that the radio isotope half life would increase as the suns radiation hits it plus random radiation in space thats why they should just turn on everything on voyoger and let vger become sentinet
"10001000100110001" Translated: "Humans stay in your lane."
Mysterious alien civ.
Cap, our lane is dominating , ants ain’t got no space program and we can wipe out any tech we build 😂
@@NexxtTimeDontMiss then explain how ants are on every earth like planet in the universe
😂🤣😂 - "our vehicles have steering wheels"
@@DrHuxley- Huh? What earth like planets?
No, we’re humans with faith and hope who always find a solution to a problem. Don’t ever loose faith and hope bc we’re all human / Life
This is where space science should be taking us, not missiles just disturbing from backyards!
I am inordinately fond of these two little guys as they migrate their way thru deep dark space... and its deeply impressive how the NASA engineers kept at it till they found a fix to reset #1 😊
Your basic Indomitable Human Spirit. We'll keep trying everything that might work till there's nothing left to try. Then we'll try things that might not work.
Luckily for earthling, there are no immigration laws in space that would inhibit the ability to travel on.
I think it's time to send out another Voyager
Imagine with today's technology how much faster, further, longer, and stronger the craft and signals could be.
Moon base, Moon Space station, Mid station to Mars. Mars station. Mars base. Start looking at Jupiter's moons.
That's what I want to see.
Extraterrestrials already know us. We don't need to send out another one.
Sorry to inform you, but today's "voyagers"' don't have a chance of being operational for that long. On the other hand, they are more effective during their lifetime.
Voyager 3 going farther than 1, let's see it.
@@mikkel715 Why wouldnt they be operational for that long?
Voyager 1 and 2 are my favorite space probes. Launched about 4 years before I was born. The probes are still going with 1970's technology, WOW!
Truly magnificent probes, I would have named my daughter Voyager 1 but that would have been just absurd, so I named her Rosetta instead 😌
@@cholasimmons lol 👍🏻
Hang in there little ones. We owe you so much and we'll listen to your stories for as long as you live.
Imagine the voyager 1 stopped sending signals, and then after a few thousand years, it suddenly resumes, confusing modern scientist because the language(code) it sends is already ancient and nobody knows it except for one archeologist who studies ancient computers.
the last message was a few hundred years ago
it says:
_"we are coming"_
at which point the supposed aliens are . . . . . . . . . from earth!!!
It was them the whole time
Please I'm the aliens from Nigeria's
i am vger
I like your script 😊👾
Couldn’t build an appliance that would last that long today
"2 whole days" for data to be sent 30 billion miles. Dude, that's over 90% of the speed of light. Just insane - what an astounding thing to watch at 8am.
Data is sent at the speed f light which is as fast as it can go. The light photons travel at 300,000 km per second
@@walkerhjk I appreciate the input. My exclamation was neither corrective nor demeaning, only amazement. Being unfamiliar with the specifics of those individual transmissions, I did the quick math at 48 hours, but sounds like it was a few hours shy.
Wish my cell phone provider was half as good
The Keith Richards of spaceships.
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
As long as Voyager, doesn't find coconut trees out there, they'd be fine 😊
Voyages space craft aren't UGLY!!
Man, Voyager heard a clip of Kamala cackling and thought it was a alien and flew off the other way 😮 !
The people who worked on both voyagers, must feel so much pride, joy and nostalgia and must be excited for the 50th anniversary. ❤
Probably dead
This is so insane to me to. Technology from the 70s not only still working but the fact we’re also able to communicate with it at this distance is wild
NASA engineers are fucking computer gods
Either that, or they are lying lol
Impressive done by NASA's engineers and programmers! Well done.
That's truly fascinating! Voyager 1 continues to amaze us with its capabilities, even from the depths of interstellar space. This incredible achievement not only highlights the marvels of human engineering but also keeps us connected to the mysteries of the universe.
That's one heck of a long distance phone call to tech support 😂
Anyone else feel like some other intelligence has found Voyager 1 and is like keeping it up to date with its shots? LOL
They listened to the record and sent back the message "Send more Chuck Berry".
What was the message? "FWD: Stop sending us nude pics! Signed, the aliens".
It's heart warming to know a piece of old NASA is still killing it in deep space 50 years later - the brilliant, artisan NASA I grew up with, the NASA that would never have allowed Columbia off the launch pad the day of that avoidable tragedy.
To say they "really knew how to build them" back then, doesn't' even begin to express how wide the gap between old and new NASA.
Truly a dumb point of view, insulting to engineers and the challenges to overcome.
Maybe read up on the James Webb Space Telescope.
@@ro_valle you could also ellaborate more, honestly just as dumb as you claim the comment is, typical internet troll
@@markwakeley3835yeah....
it's all fine and well, except🤷♂️
The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) launched into space on December 25, 2021, on an Ariane 5 rocket from Europe's Spaceport in French Guiana, South America. The rocket separated from the observatory 27 minutes into the flight, releasing the observatory at an altitude of approximately 75 miles (120 kilometers). The telescope folded up inside the rocket as it launched and will gradually unfurl as it travels to its destination beyond the Moon. V1 and 2 are basically doing the same but with a 44 year head start. The engineering feats of the 60s and 70s out pace current government engineers. F1 rocket motor from Saturn V, they cannot make a functioning one because of the loss of tech and how manufactured. Oh and in a parting note,
The JWST has more than 344 possible single points of failure in the system, meaning if anything went wrong it could jeopardize the entire mission.😒
The Voyager's are ahead of their time 😮😮😮😮
I'm just worried when VGER comes back to destroy the carbon units!
😂
Perfect!
🥱
Why haven’t we sent out new voyagers with better tech? We could literally view the cosmos in HD4K.
We are bro
Voyager only got as far as it did because the planets were in perfect alignment to do gravity assists when launched. The planets won't align like that again for hundreds of years.
That’s what I be saying. Especially when our car fobs have more compute power than the voyagers itself! I know space exploration fundings got cut throughout the years, but I’m like if we don’t get anything new up there, we’re gonna be waiting even longer for data- counting the probe’s travel in space and everything.
We kinda did, I mean why did they make james Webb telescope or Hubble, or the Parker telescope(I think that's what it's called)
@janusnon the alignment of the planets which occurred during its launch will come again after 865 years .
Keep going voyagers. Never know they might still send us a picture of another earth like planet
Love this. I'm old enough that I remember my parents having me sit by the TV to watch the first moon landing. I had posters on my wall of "How to be an astronaut" and the planets.
for the last 20+ years I've been an ESL teacher (English for non-native English speakers), and I ALWAYS teach them "My Excellent Mother Just Made Us Noodles" (Pluto is gone, so I improvised): M-Mercury, V-Venus,
E-Earth, M-mars, J-Jupiter, U-Uranus, N-Neptune.
Within a few days, I will quiz them, "what is the 5th planet? Jupiter". They love it.
You're not doing your pupils any favors by telling them a mnemonic that misses out the Asteroid Belt and Pluto. Better to use Heinlein's catchy 'Mother Very Thoughtfully Made A Jelly Sandwich Under No Protest.' T being Terra, A is Asteroids.
It is strangely comforting to know that even NASA engineers first thought when their electronic gizmos act up is to restart it.😂
It's absolutely fascinating that Voyager 1, a probe launched in 1977 with the primitive computing power of just 68 KB of memory, continues to send back data from 15.5 billion miles away! This survival and functionality beyond its original mission life not only celebrate human ingenuity but also pose an interesting question: What other 'old' technologies out there are still secretly outperforming our expectations? Could this teach us something about our current approaches to technology development?
I've observed a similar principle of simplicity as longevity in my espresso maker. My simpler machine, the Stilosa, is easier to maintain and fix if something goes wrong because it has the bare minimum of software compared with the Dedica. The Dedica is more difficult to fix because it's slightly more complex.
10:00 I doubt that any kind of advanced civilization will spot the Voyagers. Space is gargantuanly huge. The closest a Voyager will approach a star is in its Oort cloud, which itself is gargantuanly huge.
if only it had some kind of beacon on it, if we ever made a successor, it would have to be a recreation with redundancy and reliability tested based on what we have learned so far, have more efficiency due to refined manufacturing, potentially extending lifespan by orders of magnitude by relying on fewer watts to stay active, would ideally blink some message with some weak ir leds/lasers off into space, and that message would likely be binary code, as that concept is fairly easy to pick up on, we estimate, even for a non human advanced race to recognize based on general computing, there might be differences in allocations for byte sizes, but we could at least encode the messages in bursts with obvious pauses in between for ease of noticing the segment sizes, which would theoretically make it even easier to decode how to read it, and the message could be something as simple as a bitmap of a few low resolution depictions of earth and our solar system, much like a previous thing we did with data sent to space to see if anyone is listening, only this would be broadcast in ir instead of rf, and would travel SOL instead of the slightly slower rf speed. other improvements could be the use of fpgas, which allow for complete circuit restructuring in the case an individual transistor fails, we can zero out a unit, read it back, write all ones, read it back, determine where fault lies, and reprogram to not use that individual transistor, unlike voyagers 1 and 2 which had to disuse an entire memory bank from a single gate failure. At least, that's what I think would be ideal for a voyager successor, perhapse even including some kind of onboard computer interface and some data with absolutely minial input to output a few selected items, such as actual video recordings of our dictionaries with images when button 1 is pressed, images of our greatest scientific achievements and diagrams when button 2 is pressed, and yet more recordings of our planet, alongside images taken from our probes on mars, images taken from the moon. images of the sky relative to the moon, general things that would help them know where the point of origin is. IF potential contact of an intersteller race was considered, this "blackbox of humanity" would make the golden record look like a kiddy drawing.
@@SlavTiger I wonder how New Horizons will fare. Will it have the same robustness allowing it to continue sending back data on the interstellar medium for the next 40+ years?
It would have been nice to photograph the position of Betelgeuse for parallax, but apparently that would burn out its light receptors. Maybe that might be the last thing they do before shutting down is imaging system. Or maybe they could find a faint supergiant star for which they could still measure parallax, to give the astronomers necessary info on their actual power output.
@@JohnRandomness105 time will tell how it fares, hopefully well. I love astronomy
I was hoping for some new update but it was all stuff I knew already. Thanks anyway! I still like the video.
Just hearing aluminium. Was worth it!
9:17 The song “Delyo Haidutin” performed by the Rhodopean singer Valya Balkanska (Bulgaria) is included on the Voyager Golden Record on the US Space Probe Voyager 1 and 2 as part of the heritage humanity sent to the outer space to look for contact with other civilizations.
I was born 11 years AFTER these probes launched, but it's no less fascinating. Man... I bet aliens already kinda know that there's a planet full of violent, psychotic apes in the Sol system, and stay away as a result but it'd be cool someday if they showed up with a probe or 2 (or 10) in tow like "hey quit leaving your shit laying around"
And here i can't make a simple phone call to my friend living 2 house down😂
for anyone who doesnt understand how reprogramming can 'skip' memory cells, the trick is 'where is the bad memory', then as the executable code (binary level stuff) starts to 'approach' using memory, the programmers plop a 'goto' instruction, ie 'go to' the remainingGOOD memory. the executable program thus has UNUSED ALL ZEROS or whatever coinciding with the damaged area. IT NEVER GOES TO THAT AREA OF THE CODE BECAUSE ITS TOLD TO SKIP PAST IT.
“NASAR” and “DATAR” killed me 😂😂😂. The accent. Haha. A gf of mines father was one of the lead scientists on Vger. Genius fella. Never got to meet him but heard amazing stories. So cool. This thing left when i was born
It’s a good job we have clever scientists and computer engineers, the foresight of someone to provide an area on the computer for corrupt data to be moved to is truly amazing!!
Oh my childish glee when I heard the phrase "the probe's radioisotope thermoelectric generator's." I was saying to myself the only way that thing could be so far from earth and consistent solar energy (and still operate) is nuclear energy, if they choose an isotope with slow decay. I have a scientific mind but I have severe ADHD and studying and completing any task for that matter is extremely difficult. I wish I could get my my doctorate, I wish I could work for NASA or SPACEX but I am always sabotaging myself 😢 I am smart and stupid at the same time. It's painful. But little validating moments like this keep me breathing.
Congratulations, you human, like the rest of us. 😂
Ha, I've been a systems administrator for rocket scientists my whole career. I assure you, rocket scientists do plenty of silly things as well.
Working for these companies is overrated. Just Enjoy being an amateur observer of these scientific development. It's just as thrilling
Everyone is smart and stupid at the same time. Don’t let that stop you! It sounds like you have a brilliant mind. We need you! Go for it!!
Voyager ❤
Haha, the first thing NASA tried was turn it off and on!! How many billions of dollars and they still have the same fix it manual as the rest of us.
They don't make things like they used to. Good old 70's.
They do indeed don't make things like they used to. Now they make them better than they used to. Nostalgia blinders serve to weaken us, not empower us.
Maybe you should read up on the James Webb Space Telescope.
I wish we had like cryosleep or warplike engines, or both and could just go out on a journey to other solarsystems. I wouldn't say no to a trip like that
we have only in a simulated reality but i think that in itself is a great step and pretty awesome
That's how you get ants
Please if you can support me with this off my statement and the someone behind the solar system
I don't believe 1970's technolloy could be that good to still be working. Considering the technology and equipment we have today makes the seventies stuff seem like prehistoric,
1950's to 1970's hardware is very robust.
Today's tech is very flimsy in comparison. An iPhone wouldn't make it to the ISS and back unless it was kept in a 200# lead box. 🤣🤣
4:15 what kind of phones are you using? 32GB phones haven't been made in years...
Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Voyager 1 be like:
Nah, I'm fine.
Very useful video
The way you broke it down on that golden record, mahn, long live humans 👌
How does this still get signal, but my phone can’t load a webpage with overcast some days.
higher sensitivity radio, more aggressive packet integrity checking, multiple pings for validation, most likely.
Love it so much!!! So excited!!
Imagine if aliens arrive one day and the first thing they say is: "Hello, we found one of your probes. Thanks for the directions."
Voyageur: "They're coming. They're hungry."
Audio mixing on this video is incredible
Do the propes collect data about interstelar space?
Yes and no, to save energy most functions have been turned off but we still receive info and can communicate with both which is astounding considering they thought the lifespan wld be 4 years or so ....
Yes, they still measure magnetic field data.
Try a google scholar search on Voyager results. We (PWS) publish a few papers every year on things like the plasma density and dust distribution in the very local interstellar medium.
WOW! It's amazing that the two Voyagers are still out there , working(be it, at a limited capacity) But still on mission. I was just a teenager of 15 when they were launched, and still remember that day my first semester in high school and my science teacher talked about it and was very excited! But the fact they're still working is a testament to the people at NASA! And it will be a sad day when they finally go dark.
I remeber when they launched. We studied them in science class. Just amazing.
It's truly amazing that it has exceeded it's life's span from just 4 years to 47 years old!! WOW! You ask how, what and why keeps it going? Amazing!! Blessings
hai guys space is cool ngl
Freezing actually 😂
@@ThatBoyBent i mean
Space doesn't exist
@@chaselewis3819 what's above the earth then
A dome, you seen the Truman show?
An engineering miracle!
I had no idea V2 was launched before V1. Great trivia information.
So it looks like Star Trek The Motion Picture was a documentary. Something tells me that is the computer system was more modern, it would have crashed and burned by now, so having this "ancient" technology is actually better for it's future.
Yes more please 👌
Hi, am interested in knowing what the power of the transmitter is in watts at the spacecraft, and what the receive power at earth is in watts per square meter, and what antenna is used to receive the data and what is the amount of power total received by such a large dish in watts, and how is communication even possible using such a tiny amount of power, what techniques are used to transmit and receive the data?
The transmitter on the probes is 23 watts, but by the time it reaches us the signal is less than one attowatt (a billionth of a billionth of a watt) according to NASA. We use an array of huge radio dishes to receive the signal, it's all pretty amazing.
@@ilovethe70s i'm wondering if the signaling data rate is decreased in order to increase signal to noise ratio to receive the faint signal? Is the same symbol sent repeatedly and the receiver integrates over a certain time interval to increase signal-to-noise ratio of a given symbol when it's being received?
I was in grade 10 in high school when they were launched, it's truly amazing that they are still functional. The hard drive is the old platter type, the equivalent to an old IDE hard drive in your old, obsolete computer, they fail all the time.
There are no hard drives in the Voyager probes; they use a reel to reel data recorder with 1/2" 8-track tape. They were shut off many years ago to save power though so they are no longer functional. They were used for buffering photos and science data so they could be transmitted back to Earth.
What operating system is it using ? CPM ?
More than likely,.DOS
It's not computer stuff if you don't rebot the system when a problem arises..
Lee72, this is incredible footage, doorbell
Whose voice is that? He explains so well
Thanks Destiny.
It'll take another 40,000 years to reach the nearest star to the sun. And there are more than 100 billion stars in Milkyway alone. 😮
I love space stuff. The people behind it all fascinate me. I wish I was engineer like them but I'm too stupid for that stuff
They also started not knowing anything about it, it's just learning and keeping that info in your head, you should always try man ❤
Maybe your not stupid, just ignorant (lacking knowledge). Ignorance is 100% curable!
Where do you get your video loops? I'm an educator and space music artist. I would love to use similar video loops. Thank you in advance.
To boldly go where no space probe has gone before.
When a reboot won't work, switch to backup computer. Problem solved. Why did that take so long? NASA - Never admit seeing Aliens.
I’m wondering what voyager has discovered? Mapping the galaxy. Cool stuff.
I swear every space video sounds like it’s narrated by Obsidian Ant
will they ever send a updated Voyager out
Anyone know where that music came from?
Search "Voyager Golden Record"
V GER LIVES!
(Star Trek I)
Yes! Except V 'Ger was the mythical Voyager 6, in 2270.
@@fiendishthingy1630 Shhhhh! Don't spoil it lol
I was studying Fortran in 1977, which I believe is the operating system that voyagers are using.
Meanwhile Voyager to himself in the space: it's me and the almighty God
An surprising adventure for Mankind ! NASA truly an amazing Achievement!
When will you be able to test and upoload af-tests of the new firmware? Please do it with wide aperture lenses as well, not only with the kit lens :) Thanks for your content, it's awesome!
so how would it be possible for anything to get these messages off of the probes ? We wouldn't be able to get them off it, the voyager would crash would be the only way we could get it if something sent one our way especially going that fast
I was thinking 'bout the engineers how genius they are they even repair the probe from the very astonishing billions of miles deepest universe💪
Imagine if it were possible to bring the probe back,fit it with modern day computers and what not then send it back out
How do they keep the antenna pointing to earth with no fuel for its thrusters ?
Realy I like this video so so much like you can imagine
We are already learning what is out there and, of course we are just taking our first steps. Even so...🖖
I’ve always wanted to know what Voyager has seen and sent images and information about back to nasa that hasn’t been released yet.
Man, mankind, man made, manned spacecraft. Inguiniity of man !
Did you turn it off and on again?
the device is simple and reprogrammable enough that soft workarounds can fix hardware faults to a much larger extent than a lot of modern devices, one memory bank fails? split data across remaining functional banks. Part of computer a and part of redundancy computer B fail? Did the same part on both fail? Try to split function across what still works on each. I love the concept of soft bypasses like that.
Thank you Voyagers!