@@nilssonschmillson5395 The Violent Sleep Of Reason is a beast of a album. Clockwork is not my personal favourite track as well. But the day they let their signature formula go, the world burns down to shit.
@@nilssonschmillson5395 I definitely get that with the stuff past nothing, but imo the early stuff holds up well. I can listen to destroy erase improve and none over and over, due to how crushing their entire sound was at the time.
The intro groove to 'Humiliative' is still just about the heaviest thing I've heard in my life, and I've listened to a mammoth shit tonne of extreme metal over the years.
That whole part got me good. It's so true too like, everyones watching Saved by the bell and The Ninja Turtles and Meshuggah over here changing the game.
yup...another one was carcass with their heartwork album. from grindcore to melodic death. trendsetters. Meshuggah's late "arrival" for many metalheads was with DEI in 95 though (same year as demanufacture I think?) and it destroyed everything that came before. Then Chaosphere... holy fuck. Destroyed again. Then Nothing in 02 with its chainsaw guitars and kick back grooves. Heavy as fuck. Catch 33... legendary concept album... Then Obzen set the new standard with Bleed. Fast forward.... Clockworks. Meshuggah still on their own level for what they do.
I love 90’s meshuggah are fantastic but catch 33 will always be my favourite meshuggah album of all time. There are just so many incredible moments on that album
@@jameschauvet3140 true. I don’t think people talk about sleep of reason enough. So many bangers on there, like the title track, born in dissonance, monstrocity, by the ton, the only track I don’t like from that album is ivory tower. Obzen is also banged from front to back. I started learning obzen (the song) today and gained new appreciation for those guitar lines.
@@funnyperson4027 VSOR is just so progressive that you can’t really find any groove to some songs until you listen to them again. Title track is my favorite, so good.
Although I love later Meshuggah, part of me wishes there was a band that continued to refine the kind of uber-technical thrash they made on Contradictions Collapse. It's a raw album for sure, but there's some damn fine metal there that really begged to be developed into something similar but better.
I agree 100%, although I do love what they are now but there were so many ways they could have gone and I did love the trashy aspects of Contradictions Collapse. They were so ahead of their time and so much better at what they did than most other bands.
I blame Watchtower and Meshuggah for the all chaos in metal you should do a Watchtower video man! Rick Colaluca was a fucking eight handed alien on Control and Resistance album
Realistically, who cares? Build your band up, don’t give a shit that some random person on the internet thinks early Meshuggah is better. Work on being your best, don’t live by the success of other acts. Title is clickbait for a reason, and hollow/meaningless
I know, it’s just a little self deprecating humor. I put my all into the band, and I really like some of the songs we made. I don’t think 90% of bands will be as good as meshuggah though. They’re just the best of the best.
@@poopytootsface3489 That relative at best, nobody can factually say 'this band is the best of the best' Meshuggah holds their place for a reason, and while they may be good, you can't compare yourself to them, even at their early stages. You're two completely different entities, different people, different sound. Comparing yourselves is nothing but negative and pointless to even compare, you don't need humility here at all.
@@poopytootsface3489 they're only good at their style, not whatever yours is - be artistic of thinking alternatively if that way. Just reflect and posit as a question: "What are they not doing, that I AM doing differently". There in lies your identity and musical destiny bro, I hope you find it cause I am as well!
I never hear anybody talk about Contradictions Collapse, good on ya. I thought similar first time i heard, i was like holy shit if some sorta pantera/metallica/slayer hybrid band existed and they were all way smarter, they wuda made Contradictions Collapse.. I neglected to include bein Swedish in the equation so cheers for clearing that up 😂
You’ve become my favorite UA-cam channel (I’m subbed to 264). Please never stop, even if the content gets a bit shit after you put on a little weight and start doing IPA reviews on the side.
Major metal albums of 1994 Pantera - far beyond driven Machine head - burn my eyes Korn - self titled Megadeth - youthanasia Cannibal corpse - the bleeding
@@drumkidstu it just different styles the closest one to having the same influence on modern metal would be Korn with all the bounce riffs that are so common over the last 5 years or so
@@drumkidstu I agree for the most part. Corpse wasn't that revolutionary death and possessed had been doing death metal for years. Korn spawned an entire genre and are pretty unique. Pantera was one of the biggest names in that era of metal and are pretty influential the the evolution of metal as a whole.
@@bdarne0024 I agree with you. Korn doesn’t get the credit they deserve. Sure, they spawned what became a watered down genre, but when they came out, literally nothing sounded like it.
It's kinda sad they won't revisit old material anymore live, outside of hit songs like New Millennium Cyanide Christ and Future Breed Machine. Contradictions Collapse and Destroy, Erase, Improve had some real bangers that still hold up today, especially now that thrash is kinda having a resurgence within hardcore. Paralyzing Ignorance is my all-time fav Meshuggah song and I think it's been performed live only once or twice ever?
I like the older version more ua-cam.com/video/YlUO5t4F1g8/v-deo.html Its faster, Jens is more expressive, has the last piece of his long hair in the back, Tomas has ride as a ride (middle section sounds dope AF with the bell)
Watched on the stream and then saw this pop up today on UA-cam and completely thought it was ANOTHER reaction. But I stayed and commented for Al Gorithm
I remember hearing Contradictions Collapse and thinking "Fuck... this is what the new Metallica album *should* have sounded like." NONE is still their crowning achievement.
dude my thoughrs exactly back in '96 when I first heard DEI. You are correct. Where metallica dropped the ball... meshuggah picked it ip and launched it into the stratosphere. metal evolution timeline: Justice... Contradictions.
There actually was a fake leak-release of an upcoming Metallica-album (St Anger?) when they had put one of the Chaosphere-tunes as the opening track, I just can't recall which one. It was fun.
I have been a meshuggah fan since 2007 cos i picked out the nothing album by random to buy and on 1st listen i was confused but , gave it a 2nd listen then begun to understand
This video you show is nothing, I just saw them live recently on tour, they played Humiliative and it fucking ripped. I dont even know how it's possible to be that heavy live but they fucking are. The entire setlist was quite... alien. Incredible.
Hey man, you should check out Boz from The Other. It’s a skate punk band that released one album. But the drummer does not play skate rock drums. Give us some non metal heads some stuff:p you are very fucking entertaining.
![Tomas Haake (Meshuggah) reacts to..... drumtalk [special]](/img/n.gif)
Meshuggah somehow managed to crack the code, make their own sound, it's not dated or sounding stale. They just deliver
It has gotten stale. Stopped listening to Meshuggah since Like Clockwork. Just got old for me.
@@nilssonschmillson5395 The Violent Sleep Of Reason is a beast of a album. Clockwork is not my personal favourite track as well. But the day they let their signature formula go, the world burns down to shit.
Yes!!!!!
@@nilssonschmillson5395 I definitely get that with the stuff past nothing, but imo the early stuff holds up well. I can listen to destroy erase improve and none over and over, due to how crushing their entire sound was at the time.
@@nilssonschmillson5395 been listening for a decade now. I don't think they have a single bad song because I still listen to it all.
"They sound like if And Justice For All era Metallica was clever. And Swedish."
I'm both. :)
Lol
For sure, the 90s era of Meshuggah was way ahead of it's time. My favorite album is to Chaosphere.
Chaosphere, released in 1998. Sounds like it's from 2098.
That's my favourite from meshuggah .
A freaking masterpiece.
I listened to Destroy Erase Improve so much I can kind of just press play in my head and play the whole album.
🤘🏾
Meshuggah sounded like THIS in '94. Same year as the first KoRn album and 311 Blue Album. They were lightyears ahead of their time.
The intro groove to 'Humiliative' is still just about the heaviest thing I've heard in my life, and I've listened to a mammoth shit tonne of extreme metal over the years.
same. must be true
"the big one" lmaoooo
“the sticks that go ‘woooaauauuuugh’” lmfaoooo
fr that got me good
That whole part got me good. It's so true too like, everyones watching Saved by the bell and The Ninja Turtles and Meshuggah over here changing the game.
Meshuggah was definitely ahead for '94. Dunno if anyone has mentioned it but Pantera's Far Beyond Driven album was also just as crazy & influential.
yup...another one was carcass with their heartwork album. from grindcore to melodic death. trendsetters. Meshuggah's late "arrival" for many metalheads was with DEI in 95 though (same year as demanufacture I think?) and it destroyed everything that came before. Then Chaosphere... holy fuck. Destroyed again. Then Nothing in 02 with its chainsaw guitars and kick back grooves. Heavy as fuck. Catch 33... legendary concept album... Then Obzen set the new standard with Bleed. Fast forward.... Clockworks. Meshuggah still on their own level for what they do.
I think their next album, the great southern trendkill, was their best album, their heaviest and darkest album
@@jackko21I agree. Dimebags solos were top notch and I love Phil’s screams on that album so violent
I will always choose Far Beyond Driven over Vulgar Display of Power; simply because of the drumming was so much more chaotic.
I love 90’s meshuggah are fantastic but catch 33 will always be my favourite meshuggah album of all time. There are just so many incredible moments on that album
Same, Obzen and violent sleep of reason was their top masterpieces but catch 33 is so insane and hypnotic
@@jameschauvet3140 true. I don’t think people talk about sleep of reason enough. So many bangers on there, like the title track, born in dissonance, monstrocity, by the ton, the only track I don’t like from that album is ivory tower. Obzen is also banged from front to back. I started learning obzen (the song) today and gained new appreciation for those guitar lines.
@@funnyperson4027 VSOR is just so progressive that you can’t really find any groove to some songs until you listen to them again. Title track is my favorite, so good.
Although I love later Meshuggah, part of me wishes there was a band that continued to refine the kind of uber-technical thrash they made on Contradictions Collapse. It's a raw album for sure, but there's some damn fine metal there that really begged to be developed into something similar but better.
Hammerhedd
It did
@@samcpea95 that's a damn good band
I agree 100%, although I do love what they are now but there were so many ways they could have gone and I did love the trashy aspects of Contradictions Collapse. They were so ahead of their time and so much better at what they did than most other bands.
Propagandhi are holding the torch for technical thrash these days I feel but they're so so different it doesn't count as the same thing at all
"You can't hear those ghost notes on the record"
"This sounds exactly like the record"
Ok, so one of those has to be wrong.
Been saying tor years how underrated Contradictions Collapse is. Fucking legendary.
I've got Contradictions Collapse on original print vinyl. No it's not for sale.
Is it 4 sale
lol i have two copies because a buddy from the distant past forgot forever his copy at my house!
@@nicholasdemello2944 lmao well played
Seeing you vibing hard and having fun to this was my favourite thing about this video
This was one of the greatest things ever. Your commentary while they were just losing their shit was awesome!
The most impressive thing was the audio description of those noisy stick things you did. Man nailed it.
This is my go to song to introduce new people. And make sure to tell them the year so they can appreciate how ahead of time they are.
One of the best live dvds out there. Perfect mix of old and new tracks. This song will forever fuck harder than most bands’ discographies.
I was watching you rambling about riffs and I clicked to make the song start again, pausing your reaction video. I feel like I got checkmate'd
Your description of 1994 had me in stitches 🤣
You forgot the most important 90s fashion addition - sweater tied around your hips.
I blame Watchtower and Meshuggah for the all chaos in metal
you should do a Watchtower video man! Rick Colaluca was a fucking eight handed alien on Control and Resistance album
Ron Jarzombek is incredible in Blotted Science.
Sub levels always got me in the Feels, also beneath... if you never saw them playing this song live you havent searched youtube hard enough
The face punch made me follow your twitch channel immediately. Good shit.
One of the bands I feel never got the cred for carrying the Meshuggah torch was Mnemic
WORD!!
FACTS. So underrated.
Their biggest influences are metallica and tool
@@OHBJJ9634 Mircea from Mnemic, when they were disbanding, explicitly mentioned they just wanted to play something Meshuggah influenced
Add Textures and Sikth to that list. Coprofago was an amazing Meshuggah type band also that came out late 90’s early 2000’s
Korns first album is the only album I could think of that came out in 94 and was ahead of it’s time
I can't comprehend that this was produced in 1994, just couldnt have happened.
'94.. Soul of a New Machine was out, Demanufacture on its way. Both pretty important as well, i'd say. :)
There is som older live videos of this gem aswell, pre-click and high tempo as fuck! And with Jens epic hair... GOATS!
This was pre click too actually. They didn't bring that in until the Koloss tour in 2011.
Man that mini caveman break after “the big one” gets me every time. Still boggles the mind this was in the early 90s.
I love Meshuggah's entire catalog
Have you heard a ‘Requiem’ by Evan Marien? It’s got Fredrik Thordendal and Morgen Agren guesting on it, reckon you will dig it 😀
I can’t believe this song and Welcome to Paradise were being played at the same time to drastically different audiences
That stick impersonation 🤣🤣🤣
I'm on the top left corner of this whole ass video. Love the content Craig 😘
I just saw this track live and holy shit it is insane!
What city? Grand Rapids was sick.
The venue reminds me of club soda montreal! sick place
"Suffering truth" love haake. Him & danny carey my heros
Also gotta check out future breed machine Mayhem version..most brutal vocal but incredible
Yeah suffer in truth is my fave, as basic a groove as meshuggah are willing to produce
I take high offense to the statement in the title because I can’t come to terms with the truth of it
Realistically, who cares? Build your band up, don’t give a shit that some random person on the internet thinks early Meshuggah is better. Work on being your best, don’t live by the success of other acts. Title is clickbait for a reason, and hollow/meaningless
I know, it’s just a little self deprecating humor. I put my all into the band, and I really like some of the songs we made. I don’t think 90% of bands will be as good as meshuggah though. They’re just the best of the best.
@@poopytootsface3489 That relative at best, nobody can factually say 'this band is the best of the best'
Meshuggah holds their place for a reason, and while they may be good, you can't compare yourself to them, even at their early stages. You're two completely different entities, different people, different sound. Comparing yourselves is nothing but negative and pointless to even compare, you don't need humility here at all.
@@poopytootsface3489 they're only good at their style, not whatever yours is - be artistic of thinking alternatively if that way. Just reflect and posit as a question: "What are they not doing, that I AM doing differently". There in lies your identity and musical destiny bro, I hope you find it cause I am as well!
Bands need to make more vest and stuff im sick and tiered of having to cut sleeves off t shirts
I keep thinking of Blind Mellon at Woodstock in 94.
Meshuggah shaped my school years, I transcended
There's actually a video footage of them recording DEI lurking on UA-cam somewhere and it's beautiful to watch
man thank you so much i had forgotten about this song this is so ridiculously good
I never hear anybody talk about Contradictions Collapse, good on ya. I thought similar first time i heard, i was like holy shit if some sorta pantera/metallica/slayer hybrid band existed and they were all way smarter, they wuda made Contradictions Collapse.. I neglected to include bein Swedish in the equation so cheers for clearing that up 😂
You’ve become my favorite UA-cam channel (I’m subbed to 264). Please never stop, even if the content gets a bit shit after you put on a little weight and start doing IPA reviews on the side.
Ritual and Aztec Two Step are my jams.
The “None” EP is 10/10
There is a video of them playing it in the early 90s on MTV Europe.
Subtitles/captions had it as :old-asthma-sugar 😂
Major metal albums of 1994
Pantera - far beyond driven
Machine head - burn my eyes
Korn - self titled
Megadeth - youthanasia
Cannibal corpse - the bleeding
None of that is even close to this.
@@drumkidstu it just different styles the closest one to having the same influence on modern metal would be Korn with all the bounce riffs that are so common over the last 5 years or so
@@bdarne0024 perhaps, but regardless of styles, none of those bands (cannibal corpse may be the exception) ended up being revolutionary nor as unique.
@@drumkidstu I agree for the most part. Corpse wasn't that revolutionary death and possessed had been doing death metal for years. Korn spawned an entire genre and are pretty unique. Pantera was one of the biggest names in that era of metal and are pretty influential the the evolution of metal as a whole.
@@bdarne0024 I agree with you. Korn doesn’t get the credit they deserve. Sure, they spawned what became a watered down genre, but when they came out, literally nothing sounded like it.
Grey's Skincare is amazing
crazy how people still bite this sound to this day
It's kinda sad they won't revisit old material anymore live, outside of hit songs like New Millennium Cyanide Christ and Future Breed Machine. Contradictions Collapse and Destroy, Erase, Improve had some real bangers that still hold up today, especially now that thrash is kinda having a resurgence within hardcore. Paralyzing Ignorance is my all-time fav Meshuggah song and I think it's been performed live only once or twice ever?
I like the older version more ua-cam.com/video/YlUO5t4F1g8/v-deo.html
Its faster, Jens is more expressive, has the last piece of his long hair in the back, Tomas has ride as a ride (middle section sounds dope AF with the bell)
Came here to say this.
TOMAS BRING THE FKN RIDE (as a ride) BACK MY DUDE
Far Beyond Driven came out in 94' : )
When the kite string pops by acid bath came out in 1994 fucken amazing album
even their latest stuff is better than any other
Lol. "Everybody has one of those sticks that go "OOOOWWAAAAooooo"" Ha ha. Spot on. Im dead.
Watched on the stream and then saw this pop up today on UA-cam and completely thought it was ANOTHER reaction. But I stayed and commented for Al Gorithm
Early 311 was better than any of my bands bro
“Dribbling with Joy” 😂
Jeez it's about bloody time
"I can be falled"
"Machine Head going mehmehmehmehmeh... Burn my Eyes is pretty sick though." Shit had me dying 🤣
this needs more views
Nice ESSHUGGG T-shirt bro
This content, my veins
I thought for sure you were making a Kurt Cobain joke when you said, "what happened in '94? Funny where my brain goes. . . "
There's no band better than Meshuggah and probably won't be in 1000 years
I remember hearing Contradictions Collapse and thinking "Fuck... this is what the new Metallica album *should* have sounded like."
NONE is still their crowning achievement.
dude my thoughrs exactly back in '96 when I first heard DEI. You are correct. Where metallica dropped the ball... meshuggah picked it ip and launched it into the stratosphere. metal evolution timeline: Justice... Contradictions.
There actually was a fake leak-release of an upcoming Metallica-album (St Anger?) when they had put one of the Chaosphere-tunes as the opening track, I just can't recall which one. It was fun.
1000% yes.
Anyone know where I can find the original video of this meshuggah performance that he's watching without the narration?
Aztec Two-Step
Chaosphere is still my fave
Meshuggah have a lot answer for🤣
how they kicked in was RUTHLESS
Look out folks, Anthony Moshua in the building.
I have been a meshuggah fan since 2007 cos i picked out the nothing album by random to buy and on 1st listen i was confused but , gave it a 2nd listen then begun to understand
"begun to understand" haha that's a good description
back in the good old days when people would actually 2 step on beat then yes.. that wouldve been a great 2 step section
description seems legit
This video you show is nothing, I just saw them live recently on tour, they played Humiliative and it fucking ripped. I dont even know how it's possible to be that heavy live but they fucking are. The entire setlist was quite... alien. Incredible.
Sickening off None EP, my all time fave Mesh' track.
i want that lamp!!!
Far beyond driven came out in 1994
A millions times better.
Also, nice DEI shirt. ;)
1:31 I instantly get two ads! 😂😂😂
Still better than any band
the Dave Chapelle 'I Wrote This Song in '94' skit but with Meshuggah
Humiliative is the best
Hey man, you should check out Boz from The Other. It’s a skate punk band that released one album. But the drummer does not play skate rock drums. Give us some non metal heads some stuff:p you are very fucking entertaining.
"my sugar"
Hard to argue with this title
Have i seen. Fredrik Thorenddahl and Morgan Ågren - Sol niger withinw?
dude youre my favorite
"Early Meshuggah is better than *your* band!!"
Why wasn't I informed I have a band🤔??
94 Kurt left the building.
7:26 didn't stray do it as well?
First 2 Meshuggah albums GOAT