I've been around 3-4 Months ever since Myth debuted, when Suisei's Next Color Planet released, the very first clip i watched is Fubuki scatman and Matsuri playing Minecraft with Aqua and messing around.. Ahh good ol simple times.
It's easy, unless you're going through extreme duress you're in "the good times" which you are currently taken for granted and will look fondly upon in the future. As a rule of thumb assume everything is going to shit and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Sora is pretty much still the same, and AZKi acts the same but is a million times more active Any time you want a taste of "early Hololive" just tune them in :)
I still remember when Fubuki was the face of holo. I´m glad the members are fullfilling their goals + there are more opportunities but i can´t help but miss when they didn't have to search for the smallest space on their schedule for a collab or attend to 70 meetings + practise/record stuff for a gazillion different events. Just missing the times when they were more niche and they could just stream. Amazing work on the song btw
It wasn't simple, it was chaos, fun chaotic bunch where we had no worries about any company strikes, games all they want, ASMR streams, until all of it screwed them over, the Hololive Apocalypse Arc that nearly could've wiped all of the girls.
i shit you not maybe 3 weeks ago i went back to watching kizuna ai and it just gave me a bunch of feels from when i first found her and she only had like 4 videos up and i felt so many feels about early vtubing and shit and now not only do i feel feeling about old vtubing i now also feel feelings about early hololive , like a fucking nostalgia treadmill i'm sure ill also feel just as nostalgic when fucking fauna graduates and then ill be like "man remember when green woman ?"
Man, I miss those days... The days when Vtubers like Mirai Akari and Kizuna Ai ruled. When Nijisanji wasn't a trashfire, when Gamebu was a thing, when Eilene had Yomemi and Moemi, when Moe was still around with them, Kaguya Luna... I could go on and on...
Even gen 4 isn't "early" Hololive, lol. I'd say Early Hololive era is G1, G2, Gamers and most of G0. Reasoning? It was niche and had a small following, they actually had to work hard to even reach their 100k subs milestones. Then the Golden Age Era: G3, the last member of G0, G4, ID1, EN1 Reasoning? By far the most successful and this marked the massive spread worldwide and even tho G3 still had to work hard for their 100k milestones, they made sure they were the last ones to suffer through it, all following gens would have 100k subs even pre debut thanks to them. After that I wouldn't know how to tag them, lol. Post Boom Era (ID2, ID3, JP5, JP6, EN2, EN3) and Experimental Era (ReGloss+EN4) I guess?
@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 EN3 Regloss and EN3 feels like their own era. For the EN side it felt carefully planned and professional, Regloss on the other side felt like they were trying something else but scrapped the idea and back to the same formula. This is the era after the EN concerts, and Hololive understood how to truly expand to the rest of the world.
Lyrics: みけ/Mike just hit the wall, she's gonna lose it all Dozen Prozac a day, ex-hubby's an utatie Her dreams went down the stream when she turned thirty-three Cheated on her own man, what happened to her plan? She was gonna be a voice actress, she was gonna be a star She was gonna shake her ass on the hood of Mafu's car Her personality is now the enemy Looks at her hollow life and nothin' has been alright Since Fubuki, and Sora Way before Gawr Gura There was Haato, Hitomi And Holos on Bilibili Her two fans on Discord They kick and scream when they're bored 'Cause she'll never turn back time To early, early Early Hololive (Early Hololive) Anon knows all the classics, Anon knows every line "Ogey Rrat", "Think of the 2hus!", and Yubi's for canines SSS was his jam, not a big Calliope fan Thought he'd get a hand on a member of the second gen Still wears his PPT that he bought years ago And who's that green Holo singin' in Ochame Kinou? And when did /hlg/ become /vt/? What ever happened to news streams, game shows? (On the concert stage was) Suisei, Matsuri Way before Koseki There was AZKi, and Aki And Holos on Bilibili Those oldfags on /jp/ They say /vt/ is unclean 'Cause they're still preoccupied With early, early Early hololive He hates time, make her stop What the fuck even happened to Holo Alt? (Holo Alt) And when did Marine become an actor? We must go back, back, back Go back to /jp/, /hlg/ Before the mods made /vt/ There was Coco, Artia And a holocaust dystopia Those tourists from Twitter They say that we're the shitters 'Cause we're still preoccupied With early Hololive (woo-hoo-hoo) Since 二期生/Nikisei , and ゲーマーズ/Gamers Before they debuted ReGLOSS There was 2hus and chuubas All fighting on /jp/ at once Those newfags everywhere Gotta lurk a thousand more years 'Cause we're still preoccupied With early, early Early Hololive
When Coco was around, that was peak Hololive. I would dare say it was the Golden Age of Vtubing. Coco revitalized and improved the community, exposing it to the western world. I remember waking up at 5am back then just to watch Asacoco News. That was peak content a vtuber could ever produced. Daily news within Hololive, daily, with a bit of meme'ing on the side. Its a shame that Coco graduated but her legacy will live on.
Yes, because Hololive English and Indonesia weren't a thing yet, and Rushia and Mel were still active. Chris only had one stream b4 getting axed (to my knowledge). Also, Vtubing was still rather new, so not many people knew what it was. However, during the Covid pandemic, Vtubing gained a massive boom and look at us now, multiple people have become really successful because of it and it's largely thanks to both Kizuna AI and Hololive that made that possible
Gives the vibe of an underground idol group you've been following for a long time suddenly become mainstream. You're happy for them, sure, proud even, but even then, you somehow miss the times when it felt like just a group of girls having fun making music.
I’m glad I stuck with Hololive. Not too long ago, controversies involving Hololive were taking place so often, perhaps even more frequently than Nijisanji today. Mel’s stalker incident, Aloe’s botched debut, just to name two. And then came the Coco-Taiwan incident that severed Holo from the Chinese market which everyone thought would be the final straw for Holo. Instead, everyone saw how Hololive stuck with their talents through and through.
Your songs always give me the biggest smile. Great work on this one - hit it out of the park again! I think this may be some of your best vocal work yet.
Remembering Early Hololive is like remembering Lego Bionicle... Despite the fact that I'm only an outsider to Hololive and I didn't have Bionicle figures, even to this day...
This is a reminder that HoloAdvent has been here for a year and we _already_ have HoloEN Gen 4 - and they're just as awesome as all the women who came before them. It's a good time to be alive. We're fucking spoiled.
Man they’ve come so far in such a short time, I remember checking out a Coco live all that time ago. Once EN dropped I was dragged even further into the hole and never left since
>No Meru-staffkun sekkuhara controversy >No Meru almost getting Bill Cosby-ed by her friend story time >No Hitomi s-favors scandal >No 5 minutes dedicated to /jp/ seething about chuubas getting their own board before Touhou or UA-camrs and becoming one of the top 3 most active boards >No Towa male voice drama (although I wouldn't consider Gen4 as early hololive) >No Aqua bullying drama >No early Nintendo licensing hell issues >No Hololive Moments drama >No Chinese companies removing licenses out of spite drama >No Flare's "dark elf" seething And on and on, do your reps! *Jk, this was a banger!*
I fell down the rabbit hole just before people started taking Covid seriously, man it genuinely feels like it's been a lifetime since then, but it's just been 4 and a half fucking years
Funnily enough I consider Fantasy as the start of modern Hololive, or at least the middle years. The move away from... whatever the hell they wanted to do, because management was Yagoo and the tea lady, and towards being an actual company. Due to the great privatisation and a almost total lack of EN fans from that period however, very few people remember pre 2020 Hololive.
Empezo la pandemia, y no tenia mucho que hacer, me canse un poco de ver anime y entonces me puse a vagar por youtube un marzo del 2020 me salio un video de korone hablando español y bueno matsuri con la historia de las banditas, de ahi fue todo en picada ya 4 años y medio, una experiencia sin igual, nunca habia sentido tantas emociones por algo, alegrias y tristezas, realmente me senti salvado, nunca pense que llegaria el dia en que lloraria por que un streamer o en este caso vtuber se retirara, o gritar como loco que canten una cancion que me gusta(#hoshiyomi), seguire disfrutando de todo el entretenimiento que hololive nos ofrece y seguire apoyando con fervor a todas las talentos, haber si sigo cayendo en este rabbit hole ya que parece no tener fin
This video just made me crazy nostalgic. Absolutely amazing song bro. Thanks for making me relive the good memories before sh*t that went wrong, went wrong. But now, there are lots of good times that are being made too. There has been even much more fun now than before dare I say with how much members and events there are. I can't ask anything more from my beloved girls. Only regret I had are the graduations. I really liked Rushia before until the news came out. Even now, even if I don't like her as much as before, I still keep up with her twitter posts just to check if she's still okay. Anywho, really good song mate. Goodjob edit: I miss watching Mel and Coco even if they're on other accounts rn. );
This video made me realize how niche hololive was back in 2019. And the fact I would casually watch them without understanding what the members are saying
Ahh i remember the first Holo i'm watching when c0vid is the elite gameplay,i always feels like that just happened yesterdays but ye indeed are the good ol days.:)
I remember i first saw clips of korone and miko with her gta5 playthrough and started watching even though i didnt understood shit and then i discovered meme review from coco and shortly after came myth. Feels like an eternity ago.
I started to truthly follow Hololive on late 2019 due Matsuri's bandaids clip, there are somethings that truthly I miss, mainly the summer outfits, I WILL NEVER FORGIVE UA-cam, GIVE ME BACK MATSURI AND SHION SEGGGGSSS
my first encounter with hololive is when azki released take me to heaven. i didn't even knew that she's part of a vtuber group back then. i only realized it after seeing miko's lava clips.
![[Anime] The Game](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zua7azqjmq0/mqdefault.jpg)
Reminder that myth is almost 4 years old
Reminder that Luna is still 0 you perverts 🐷
I've been a fan since before Myth debuted, this makes me feel so old...
that cant be right
I've been around 3-4 Months ever since Myth debuted, when Suisei's Next Color Planet released, the very first clip i watched is Fubuki scatman and Matsuri playing Minecraft with Aqua and messing around.. Ahh good ol simple times.
Reminder that Area15 are their senpais
This make 2020 feel like 2001.
2020 before "two weeks" might as well be 2001 before the two...
@@Bacon98toruh?
Just saying myth almost 4 years ago
@@kuronagiyurei Covid
1985 has that effect, even in parody form.
“I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them.”
"The 'good old times' - All times when old are good."
-Lord Byron (1788-1824)
It's easy, unless you're going through extreme duress you're in "the good times" which you are currently taken for granted and will look fondly upon in the future. As a rule of thumb assume everything is going to shit and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Still can't believe its been 3 years since Coco graduated.
it's crazy, so much came before that
only 497 left to go
damn, hololive is 8 years already
Dang, I’m feeling like a fossil now 💀
Fucking hell man. It still fell like 2-3 years
Holy shit. Feels like a lifetime ago.
Sora is pretty much still the same, and AZKi acts the same but is a million times more active
Any time you want a taste of "early Hololive" just tune them in :)
Gii comes back and absolutely shreds once again.
The fubuki hole stream was almost 4 years ago wtf
i want to go back bros...
bros...
_I am tempted to go back, but I don't want to see them suffer again from the incoming events. I am content now in the present._
I still remember when Fubuki was the face of holo.
I´m glad the members are fullfilling their goals + there are more opportunities but i can´t help but miss when they didn't have to search for the smallest space on their schedule for a collab or attend to 70 meetings + practise/record stuff for a gazillion different events.
Just missing the times when they were more niche and they could just stream.
Amazing work on the song btw
Im da scatto man 🦊
it was simpler back then
Was it? Things were in chaos in the early days.
It wasn't simple, it was chaos, fun chaotic bunch where we had no worries about any company strikes, games all they want, ASMR streams, until all of it screwed them over, the Hololive Apocalypse Arc that nearly could've wiped all of the girls.
Hell no
Anything but simple
i shit you not maybe 3 weeks ago i went back to watching kizuna ai and it just gave me a bunch of feels from when i first found her and she only had like 4 videos up and i felt so many feels about early vtubing and shit and now not only do i feel feeling about old vtubing i now also feel feelings about early hololive , like a fucking nostalgia treadmill i'm sure ill also feel just as nostalgic when fucking fauna graduates and then ill be like "man remember when green woman ?"
Man, as a convert from Space Woman (She'll always be BEEG to me) to Green Woman, I know exactly what you mean.
Some said that Kobo has been in hololive longer than Coco did, a bit hard to swallow that
Man, I miss those days... The days when Vtubers like Mirai Akari and Kizuna Ai ruled. When Nijisanji wasn't a trashfire, when Gamebu was a thing, when Eilene had Yomemi and Moemi, when Moe was still around with them, Kaguya Luna... I could go on and on...
The Rushia diss was so funny my lord
I thought this was gonna be an actual nostalgia trip but it was just drama...
Why did this give me feels.
Well, Mike she go all way back become Rushia again, she know what her fan want 😂
Mafumafu crossdress as women actually look better than his EX wtf
Early hololive was gay bc my oshi was younger, a good wine is better aged, vve mvst go fvrther.
How did this made me feel more nostalgic than those 2000s era compilation vids?
This is now my favorite song you've done. God, it's such a jam.
Also, counterpoint. Early Hololive didn't have HoloX.
Even gen 4 isn't "early" Hololive, lol.
I'd say Early Hololive era is G1, G2, Gamers and most of G0. Reasoning? It was niche and had a small following, they actually had to work hard to even reach their 100k subs milestones.
Then the Golden Age Era: G3, the last member of G0, G4, ID1, EN1
Reasoning? By far the most successful and this marked the massive spread worldwide and even tho G3 still had to work hard for their 100k milestones, they made sure they were the last ones to suffer through it, all following gens would have 100k subs even pre debut thanks to them.
After that I wouldn't know how to tag them, lol. Post Boom Era (ID2, ID3, JP5, JP6, EN2, EN3) and Experimental Era (ReGloss+EN4) I guess?
@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 g3 is golden post-taiwan is silver advent is new 🥷s
@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 EN3 Regloss and EN3 feels like their own era. For the EN side it felt carefully planned and professional, Regloss on the other side felt like they were trying something else but scrapped the idea and back to the same formula. This is the era after the EN concerts, and Hololive understood how to truly expand to the rest of the world.
Bruh. The name Artia is forever banned from everyones memories. She sabotaged the company and other livers.
@@kylewood4488-b9r >livers
Did you got lost, sister?
@@toiletpaper3394Man got caught falseflagging on UA-cam
For those looking for the original song it's 1985 by Bowling for Soup
This original 1985 is actually by the band SR-71. Splitting hairs since this is a parody of the BFS cover, but still.
(there are people that didn't know from the radio 💀)
Thia hits way different now. Rubu onion~
I hadn't been there since the start, but damn doesn't this hit hard.
we must return back to the time before kagami kira graduated
I miss those days. thanks anon
Kino is back on the menu boys !
By the way, where is that Bohemian Rhapsody cover about Rushia? I miss that banger...
Bohemian Yabsody, I think it's Giita's oldest vid in his yt
Lyrics:
みけ/Mike just hit the wall, she's gonna lose it all
Dozen Prozac a day, ex-hubby's an utatie
Her dreams went down the stream when she turned thirty-three
Cheated on her own man, what happened to her plan?
She was gonna be a voice actress, she was gonna be a star
She was gonna shake her ass on the hood of Mafu's car
Her personality is now the enemy
Looks at her hollow life and nothin' has been alright
Since Fubuki, and Sora
Way before Gawr Gura
There was Haato, Hitomi
And Holos on Bilibili
Her two fans on Discord
They kick and scream when they're bored
'Cause she'll never turn back time
To early, early
Early Hololive
(Early Hololive)
Anon knows all the classics, Anon knows every line
"Ogey Rrat", "Think of the 2hus!", and Yubi's for canines
SSS was his jam, not a big Calliope fan
Thought he'd get a hand on a member of the second gen
Still wears his PPT that he bought years ago
And who's that green Holo singin' in Ochame Kinou?
And when did /hlg/ become /vt/?
What ever happened to news streams, game shows?
(On the concert stage was)
Suisei, Matsuri
Way before Koseki
There was AZKi, and Aki
And Holos on Bilibili
Those oldfags on /jp/
They say /vt/ is unclean
'Cause they're still preoccupied
With early, early
Early hololive
He hates time, make her stop
What the fuck even happened to Holo Alt? (Holo Alt)
And when did Marine become an actor?
We must go back, back, back
Go back to /jp/, /hlg/
Before the mods made /vt/
There was Coco, Artia
And a holocaust dystopia
Those tourists from Twitter
They say that we're the shitters
'Cause we're still preoccupied
With early Hololive (woo-hoo-hoo)
Since 二期生/Nikisei , and ゲーマーズ/Gamers
Before they debuted ReGLOSS
There was 2hus and chuubas
All fighting on /jp/ at once
Those newfags everywhere
Gotta lurk a thousand more years
'Cause we're still preoccupied
With early, early
Early Hololive
Since 2020 was actually 3 years long, this was nearly a decade ago at this point
This feel so damn real bros... BRING MY PRE 2020 HOLOLIVE BACK!!!
On 2x this is craaaaaazy.
When Coco was around, that was peak Hololive. I would dare say it was the Golden Age of Vtubing. Coco revitalized and improved the community, exposing it to the western world. I remember waking up at 5am back then just to watch Asacoco News. That was peak content a vtuber could ever produced. Daily news within Hololive, daily, with a bit of meme'ing on the side. Its a shame that Coco graduated but her legacy will live on.
Are we really feeling nostalgic for 4 years ago?
Yes
@@groen90 TrvthNvke from Gandalf pfp
Yes, because Hololive English and Indonesia weren't a thing yet, and Rushia and Mel were still active. Chris only had one stream b4 getting axed (to my knowledge). Also, Vtubing was still rather new, so not many people knew what it was. However, during the Covid pandemic, Vtubing gained a massive boom and look at us now, multiple people have become really successful because of it and it's largely thanks to both Kizuna AI and Hololive that made that possible
@@alexkemplen772 Hmm i think the Rushia is still active but with other names.:v
Gives the vibe of an underground idol group you've been following for a long time suddenly become mainstream. You're happy for them, sure, proud even, but even then, you somehow miss the times when it felt like just a group of girls having fun making music.
Technically what happened to this niche
I kneel... Giita sama has delivered another certified banger.
Remember when it was just a handful of translation channels uploading like once a week and you could actually watch and keep track of them all?
Absolutely killer concept and well executed.
I’m glad I stuck with Hololive.
Not too long ago, controversies involving Hololive were taking place so often, perhaps even more frequently than Nijisanji today. Mel’s stalker incident, Aloe’s botched debut, just to name two.
And then came the Coco-Taiwan incident that severed Holo from the Chinese market which everyone thought would be the final straw for Holo. Instead, everyone saw how Hololive stuck with their talents through and through.
i loved the threads /v/ where someone would put a image related to something from holo and everyone would gather lol
Man, time passed by too fast. Thanks for making this song mate.
*crack*
*sip*
Eyup.
I remember when Myth was announced.
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Back then the world of vtubers was so bright
Now that light has washed out memories held dear
I'd love to see this on stage, I'd probably 😭
Your songs always give me the biggest smile. Great work on this one - hit it out of the park again! I think this may be some of your best vocal work yet.
This song is actually so good. Also it makes me feel old bc the mid 2010s looks like the 2000s here
KINO KINO KINO
Actual banger this is the best thing to come out of the Vtuber community within the last 12 months (generously)
It's hurt me so much that HoloID not even mentioned 😢
Remembering Early Hololive is like remembering Lego Bionicle...
Despite the fact that I'm only an outsider to Hololive and I didn't have Bionicle figures, even to this day...
This is a reminder that HoloAdvent has been here for a year and we _already_ have HoloEN Gen 4 - and they're just as awesome as all the women who came before them.
It's a good time to be alive. We're fucking spoiled.
Remember when you watch their streams even though you dont understand a shit...
this hits hard since holo fantasy is the first gen that got me into hololive around 5 years ago
Man they’ve come so far in such a short time, I remember checking out a Coco live all that time ago. Once EN dropped I was dragged even further into the hole and never left since
>early hololive
>shows /vt/
>not /jp/
go back
I feel like im one of the few chuubas that was a fan of hololive before coco..
Peak, banger, and will be evergreen.
(Case in point, Aqua)
>No Meru-staffkun sekkuhara controversy
>No Meru almost getting Bill Cosby-ed by her friend story time
>No Hitomi s-favors scandal
>No 5 minutes dedicated to /jp/ seething about chuubas getting their own board before Touhou or UA-camrs and becoming one of the top 3 most active boards
>No Towa male voice drama (although I wouldn't consider Gen4 as early hololive)
>No Aqua bullying drama
>No early Nintendo licensing hell issues
>No Hololive Moments drama
>No Chinese companies removing licenses out of spite drama
>No Flare's "dark elf" seething
And on and on, do your reps!
*Jk, this was a banger!*
I need a smoke...
Rushia is a pure virgin lesbian saint.
I belib
banger
fucking hell
I was here and I was there
Master piece.
Things were simple back then. Time sure does fly by.
Like everything, This too shall pass...
except the tourist they still gonna complain
so fucking based...
I fell down the rabbit hole just before people started taking Covid seriously, man it genuinely feels like it's been a lifetime since then, but it's just been 4 and a half fucking years
It wasn't even that long ago but this video managed to give me early 2000's vibes.
Didn’t expect to hear 1985 as early hololive😂
Funnily enough I consider Fantasy as the start of modern Hololive, or at least the middle years. The move away from... whatever the hell they wanted to do, because management was Yagoo and the tea lady, and towards being an actual company.
Due to the great privatisation and a almost total lack of EN fans from that period however, very few people remember pre 2020 Hololive.
This..makes me gonna cry
Pure unadulterated kino
Didn't know 2020 was this retro
They build it brick by brick
Ludo of ludo, gem of gems
Empezo la pandemia, y no tenia mucho que hacer, me canse un poco de ver anime y entonces me puse a vagar por youtube un marzo del 2020 me salio un video de korone hablando español y bueno matsuri con la historia de las banditas, de ahi fue todo en picada ya 4 años y medio, una experiencia sin igual, nunca habia sentido tantas emociones por algo, alegrias y tristezas, realmente me senti salvado, nunca pense que llegaria el dia en que lloraria por que un streamer o en este caso vtuber se retirara, o gritar como loco que canten una cancion que me gusta(#hoshiyomi), seguire disfrutando de todo el entretenimiento que hololive nos ofrece y seguire apoyando con fervor a todas las talentos, haber si sigo cayendo en este rabbit hole ya que parece no tener fin
I love this song,
it brings many nostalgia sensation
This feels like a Ric3master upload, that's how good it is.
This video just made me crazy nostalgic. Absolutely amazing song bro. Thanks for making me relive the good memories before sh*t that went wrong, went wrong. But now, there are lots of good times that are being made too. There has been even much more fun now than before dare I say with how much members and events there are. I can't ask anything more from my beloved girls. Only regret I had are the graduations. I really liked Rushia before until the news came out. Even now, even if I don't like her as much as before, I still keep up with her twitter posts just to check if she's still okay. Anywho, really good song mate. Goodjob
edit: I miss watching Mel and Coco even if they're on other accounts rn. );
I can finally say it "...f*ck I'm old"
It was right at the tail-end, but I'm glad I got to witness early Hololive.
The gift that never stopped giving
Pain Peko
Those were the days! Also reminds me that the more things change the more they stay the same.
Can't believe how I fall into this hole through nightcore.
This video made me realize how niche hololive was back in 2019. And the fact I would casually watch them without understanding what the members are saying
Those times are long gone. Get with the times old man.
Also /jp/ was never good.
more 2hus for me friend
Unadulterated kino
Ahh i remember the first Holo i'm watching when c0vid is the elite gameplay,i always feels like that just happened yesterdays but ye indeed are the good ol days.:)
Absolute goddamn kino.
It feel like i just blinks and we are here
Thank you anon. I missed those memories. Imagine if we went back
I remember i first saw clips of korone and miko with her gta5 playthrough and started watching even though i didnt understood shit and then i discovered meme review from coco and shortly after came myth. Feels like an eternity ago.
glad to see you back, bro
The nostalgia hit very hard
I started to truthly follow Hololive on late 2019 due Matsuri's bandaids clip, there are somethings that truthly I miss, mainly the summer outfits, I WILL NEVER FORGIVE UA-cam, GIVE ME BACK MATSURI AND SHION SEGGGGSSS
Neeeeeeeeeee~~~
up in the club kneeling rn
my first encounter with hololive is when azki released take me to heaven. i didn't even knew that she's part of a vtuber group back then. i only realized it after seeing miko's lava clips.