@@swordre5805 It can be infuriating when they play really lame, but it can also be really funny and refreshing. This is the "we don't know how to play this game and just have fun" if nobody has a killer strat it turns into a fun experience.
@@st.haborym they can't really build it, not enough gold. I seen kiara has ALOT of wood and food. She definitely can sweep the game if she knows how to build trash unit. I felt anya and fauna is the only team knows how to use trade to generate gold.
Shoutout to Fauna's chat. Everytime she looked at chat to figure out what to do next there was always at least one person saying "More Elephants." Eventually she started a montra of "More elephants, more trebuchets, more crossbows"
@@LordOfGilneas She's basically trying to be Boros... Aggressive early game rush... And has the same downfall as well... Once the initial army has been wiped... Struggle to build up again since they have already expended all their cards and resources... In this case... She has expended almost all her resources in their initial attack at Kronii and Moona (which they failed to finish off) as well as doing the castle siege strat... Then failed to build up replacements as they continued to send whatever remaining units they have at Anya which got trampled upon by elephants...
I was thinking the same thing haha if I’m thinking of AOE the satisfaction I had when playing Persian, Japan, or the Franks was amazing with an army of the special units; Elephants, samurai, and my favorite was watching a horde of Frank ax throwers
@@KaiserTheDarkWolf In Age of Empires the moment you start building a wonder a notification is sent to everyone. Once it's been built a timer will appear on everyone's screen counting down to when the Wonder will win the match.
Fauna - even when she hadn't practiced and had nearly zero micro - absolutely *nailed* the RTS fundamentals. 1) maximize economy without sacrificing your ability to fight 2) always be building more units 3) if you're in a winning position, maintain your lead with even more pressure.
^^^ This guy gets it! I'm almost 40 years old and have been playing AoE since its came out back in 97. Its one of the first RTS games I played and it really hooked me on that genre. Honorable mentions to Empire Earth, SW: Galactic Battlegrounds, ST: Armada, Starcraft, and Warcraft. But yeah, like you said, whether she had more experience than she let on or she just has a "nature-al" instinct for RTS, she really impressed me with how well she managed her all of that. The 3rd one usually happens anyway because many players will pour it on when they feel a win coming anyway, but the first two, ie - being able to continuously be thinking of your next move and/or managing multiple areas of your game simultaneously are probably the hardest things to get used to in RTS. Very impressed. Man, I love Fauna.
@@41253_Null_MMD day[9] (in one of his talks about how to play starcraft) pointed out that a *huge* pitfall a lot of not-so-great players fall into is not pressing their advantage (tech level, production, economy, etc) to expand their lead. They become complacent and leave the door open for a comeback because they didn't properly utilize their lead.
@@41253_Null_MMD man you just reminded me of empire earth, this was the game i played my whole childhood before geting into starcraft 2. such a great game
@@sorannmw3500Yup. Nice scenario editor too, I think that it's thanks to messing with it that I managed to grasp the principles of coding later in life.
"and he plays, "THE GATES ARE OPEN!" and I'm like, look how much I care, heh, I don't care! Anyway I ended up buffing my guys and doing like 70 damage."
Not to mention that it's a bad idea in general to rush wonders so early. You usually build wonders when you're in a stalemate (or if you're feeling lame). You don't start building wonders from the get go when you only have, like, a handful of units 😂 (looking at you Kronii).
Wonders cost like 2000 of every ressource. You could pretty much have a small army, towers and walls instead. That makes them very low in the priority list. Once the wonder falls, it's pretty much over.
Fauna's entire strategy was basically elephants and trebuchets. I know she had some crossbowmen in there too. But it seemed like every chance she got, "more elephants, more trebuchets"
Her chat told her to, and for good reason: Fauna didn't have the experience to build and use good armies, but she could at least keep production up at the castle, and just making sure you're always producing is good enough against new players.
@@ChaosMind10531 Yeah, or Tiberium Wars 3. If you were playing against a new player, simply being aggressive in expanding your income and always producing units wins the game most times. I once played against a friend that nuked my army as it was entering his base, but because he hadn't focused on expanding to other resource areas and massing units, my remaining units outside of the blast radius still more than doubled whatever he had. And unlike him, my production kept running full throttle.
Watching her perspective for the war section, every time she had extra resources she would spend them first by getting more crossbowmen, followed after that by elephants
@@Watesoftheoasis I think it was Reine who put out the idea first... Kiara just agreed... No hate or negativity towards them... Its just what they said while playing... XD
I don't know if it's unintentional, she did play dota before becoming a vtuber so there's a chance she has rts experience as well. Obviously still pretty new but maybe more knowledgeable than the others.
@@davidsantiago7808 during the stream she said she used to play age of empires but it had been a long time. I guess playing AoE is like riding a bike lmao
@@Zei33 I hear this a lot, the problem is what she portrays to the average clip watcher is "No thoughts head empty," so that's a huge range of possibilities.
Everyone: I was minding my own business! Kiara: Building castles outside of everyone's cities, causing aggro on herself Reine: Builds hardly any military, can't provide any backup Kronii: Trying for the insta-win option that makes you a target to everyone Moona: Doesn't tell Kronii that the Wonder makes her a target even though she's played before
And then you have... Fauna: Builds elephants, siege weapons, and elephants. Sends them to go bother people to see if it works. It does. Anya: ??? Victory by association!
@@Fullwolf346 Everyone has allignation to win and conquer but suddenly playing victim and dumb when they got trampeled😂.... Fauna never be such hypocrite whenever she's losing at games
There was no Kiara attacks on Fauna in this game, mainly it was Fauna harassing Reine. Most of the time Kiara wasn't paying attention and she kept walking her army right through the middle of a horde of elephants.
@@GalianMode Kiara and Reine did build castles close to Fauna's walls, ofc Fauna was gonna think that they were attacking her, so she defended herself, and both of them (Kiara & Reine) were malding because Fauna was "attacking" them, and saying that she was reading chat, lmao.
Kiara also tried to counter elephant spam by dropping small group's of pikes into the middle of an enemy horde and was surprised when they died (because they can't beat hordes without numerical advantage).
@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 As they said, building a wonder and having it survive for long enough means, that the player who built it wins. In other words, the first person to build a wonder paints a giant target on their back, because now the other players HAVE to move. Either they attack or they lose.
Kiara's Blitzkrieg actually works well. However, she should stop focusing on the losing team. Anya's strategy to let their enemies face each other is actually spot on. This could be Kiara's win if she start to army building after Kronii's fall.
Oddly enough it was accidentally brilliant of Fauna not to attack Kiara when they were both at Kroni's town, if she had stopped Kiara's advance it would have allowed Moona to keep building up, which would have been it for Anya who was honestly the least experienced player, given Kroni time to recover and also given Kiara incentive to play more defensively. Fauna retreating from a battle she could have won or at least did a lot of damage in insured her victory
Yeah I specifically told Kronii several times that monks counter elephants and to create monks but she ignored me lol. She could have won if she just listened to my advice.
They didn't have the micro for monks. Kiara built a few, but she tasked them all to one elephant so she only converted one. Halb spam would have been best but they didn't build enough production buildings to be able to stop a mass of elephants
@@arnargrande1889 bruh you don't have a direct hotline to Kronii, chat flies past so fast she likely never saw your message. And why do you watch other people play games if you just want them to do what you would do.
The fact fauna used elephants in this way scares me because I used to play with Persia every time and the fact that nobody never knew mass archers were the actual best counter revealed the outcome to me. I knew she was going to win.
I love it when people panic and can't realize those elephants are slow and can be countered with foot archers when controlled properly. Just like how i love to spam conquistadors to hit and run everything while the trebuchets bring down every building easily
I don't think anyone was playing an Archer civilization, so a lot would still need to be massed, and even a rock bottom ELO player can at least zone the Archers out with the elephants while dropping castles or pushing with Trebuchets. And because Persia gets all the economy upgrades, out producing it gets harder as the game goes on; not that there aren't ways to win, but Persia is top rank on Arena for good reason.
True. Since the Tatars/Mongols are my most played civ I kinda got used to elephants being way too easy to kill, almost forgot how OP they were if they had no counters.
Tbh I feel like they still wouldn't figure out how to counter the elephants until it's too late. I guess if it wasn't for the early Kiara on Kronii aggression they could've banded together and won against Fauna through sheer numbers
@@MrCh0o Nah, Kiara was bad at multitasking. She takes too long to raise an army and then when she attack she stop training. Meanwhile Fauna's Castle, archery and TC never stop producing units. If you watch Fauna vod by the time Kiara attack Kronii, Fauna already have an army of elephants and trebs. While Kiara only have a handful of Teuton knights. She can't rush Fauna alone Fauna Macro game was good
"I don't like being aggressive" says the person who built a castle a few yards from another player's walls lol that s like building a city close enough to someone's capital that you can build an encampment in attack range of thekr capital in civ
This event was honestly so nostalgic for me. My Dad, my brother, and I have been playing this game since release, and we still play against each other now and then when we get together for Christmas etc. We even got my niece to play with us now that she's old enough, so there's literally three generations of us playing together. One of my favorite games of all time.
her composition for a casual game was actually crazy, Trebuchet to attack from range and destroy castle and walls. elephants for front line to kill, with archers to kill the pikemen that counter elephants
Fun collab. Kiara's idea of building castles near the walls of the bases is a good one but she was being way too cocky about being able to build more given how heavy the cost is (650 stone) and how fast they were being destroyed. Kronii's entire downfall was building that Wonder instead of a military because she had the best economy in the early game with the secondary issue of not noticing how her lumber camp had depleted the wood by the wall and left an opening which Kiara capitalized on. If there were no openings then Kiara would've had to launch an attack on the walls and both Kronii and Moona would've had more time to fight back. Fauna, well, pretty early on once she had access to elephants just decided she'd make a lot of elephants. She reached Imperial age first so she was getting trebuchets ready quickly, too, and she kept a good eye on her economy. Unfortunately a bit of salt from Kiara, Reine, and Kronii; Kiara being annoyed at Kronii and Moona for not resigning I can kind of understand after the second time they destroyed her town center _and_ had pretty much destroyed all of Moona's things then, too (if not for them hanging on, though, we never would've gotten multiple walls for Fauna's elephants to break through, though). Reine was claiming that chat "snitched" when Fauna attacked her before she was ready (but Fauna was already planning to attack after noticing that first castle Reine had placed between their walls and at that point in time she'd just destroyed most of Kiara AND Reine's army). I do want to see what a no-chat version will be like but I also hope they do a map that's more mixed in nature next time so players can use their navies, too, or seeing how they'd do on an open map. Since Moona was playing as Vikings one of her unique units couldn't really be used on this map.
as an RTS fan there's nothing better than seeing people who know barely anything just throwing stuff around and seeing what happens, it's so silly and fun
@penileymajorey7174 >rage quit It was proper etiquette to resign. Her team had no realistic opportunity to make a comeback at this point, continuing the game would have been just delaying the inevitable and wasting everyone's time. If anything, Kronii and Moona were in the wrong for not resigning first. Players who keep prolonging a lost match until the very last builder is hunted down are despised by the RTS community, it's a show of poor sportsmanship. Forgivable for new players who can't tell when they have already lost, of course.
Elephant are expensive and taking so much time to train, it was their fault to let Persia civ build so many elephant for end game but yeah, fauna riding the Flow of war too well.
They did sound a bit salty but I don’t think it was due to the elephants. They probably thought Fauna was using chat intel to attack. That’s why the “no chat” rematch will happen. Them losing to faunas elephants are purely their own fault considering she essentially soloed them.
Very fun to see a casual game of new players play AoE2. im 100% certain that orange and teal would win if green did not pick Persians. Mass elephants with trample break somewhat the basic rock, paper, scissors counters of units and just melt melee units in general. Other than monks that can be hard to use properly when new, a blob of upgraded catapults or hand cannoneers works wonders to counter elephants.
@@JustASuscriber not when a horde of elephants are fully upgraded with trample, they melt fast. Blob of upgraded catapults can one shot them. Hand cannoneers do great damage and you can kite them. If you don't have gold in this kind of scenario to counter and not invested in right tech. You are pretty much GG at that point.
@@adahepper2665 Nope, halbs still do well enough, you just need to not mass them into a gate and not have like 10 of them all clumped together. You also need more than 2 barracks's. If you really need to use your gold for anything, get some monks.
Fauna: Hear me Seedlings, My name is Fauna Ceres. From here on you are all free, and I will start the rumbling. I will not stop until all humanity outside the walls are annihilated.
I remember playing aoe2 in my potato PC when i still a kid, i built so many bombard tower so that everyone have hard time to attack me while i built my army
You only build a wonder if you have a strong army to defend it during construction and after. It’s a death sentence otherwise since everyone will attack.
Fauna had no chill. She obtained a zerg and showed no mercy. Straight for the jugular. One went down and she was on to the next. This wasn't a war. It was a massacre.
building that castle was a truly evil move. never considered using them offensively before edit: SHE REBUILT THE CASTLE ON THE EXACT SAME SPOT THE BALLS ON THIS WOMAN
@@syrusalder7795 I recently learned his playstyle is actually a viable strategy even in pro play. Was astonished that he invented it way back in the days of AoE 1
Aggressive castle and tower dumping is actually quite a viable strategy in higher tier matches. Can be very annoying though when one suddenly appears just in the edge of your base when you're just coming out of the Feudal Age...
everyone else: damn Fauna is doing things very strategically.
Fauna: “spamming elephant”
It is funny that the chat keep on spamming pikemen and acher. Reine did build a few but not enough.
MY ELEPHANTS RAGE, MY ELEPHANTS SCREAM, MY ELEPHANTS FIGHT
@@swordre5805 It can be infuriating when they play really lame, but it can also be really funny and refreshing. This is the "we don't know how to play this game and just have fun" if nobody has a killer strat it turns into a fun experience.
@@swordre5805Monks are a much better counter
@@st.haborym they can't really build it, not enough gold. I seen kiara has ALOT of wood and food. She definitely can sweep the game if she knows how to build trash unit.
I felt anya and fauna is the only team knows how to use trade to generate gold.
Shoutout to Fauna's chat. Everytime she looked at chat to figure out what to do next there was always at least one person saying "More Elephants." Eventually she started a montra of "More elephants, more trebuchets, more crossbows"
if its stupid and it works its not stupid
Hannibal approves this message
Ashtadiggajas respect Fauna this day
It’s hilarious, no matter what time you take a peek at chat there is always at least 1 message screaming for elephants.
@@math3000Hannibal does not approve of taking your elephants hiking through the Alps, however. 😂
Kiara prioritizing castles to control land like a true Austrian
Fauna prioritizing elephant -zerg- like mother nature take over what is hers
Fauna is typical green player here... XD
Amassed resources then begins dropping down massive elephants like their pennies...
@@ChaosMind10531 i love green decks xD
@@_JoeVer Kiara meanwhile trying to be a blue player with the board control via castling aggressively XD
@@ChaosMind10531
Other colors: “Yes I will strategize using powerful spell combos.”
Green: “Make monster big :)”
@@LordOfGilneas She's basically trying to be Boros... Aggressive early game rush... And has the same downfall as well... Once the initial army has been wiped... Struggle to build up again since they have already expended all their cards and resources... In this case... She has expended almost all her resources in their initial attack at Kronii and Moona (which they failed to finish off) as well as doing the castle siege strat... Then failed to build up replacements as they continued to send whatever remaining units they have at Anya which got trampled upon by elephants...
Everyone else were playing Age, while Fauna were playing Planet Zoo
Did she inbreeding the elephant?
@@MohdArif-pl3sy Well, if you send wave after wave to war, does it really matter?
I spat out my drink remembering fauna's planet zoo gameplay
Tyranids. Go!
was*
To be fair to Fauna's strategy, "throwing elephants at the problem until it goes away" is historically accurate for the Persians.
I was thinking the same thing haha if I’m thinking of AOE the satisfaction I had when playing Persian, Japan, or the Franks was amazing with an army of the special units; Elephants, samurai, and my favorite was watching a horde of Frank ax throwers
Also the Carthaginians, specifically their most famed general Hannibal.
Persian enemy: SUMMON THE RATS!
@@aceundead4750 didn't quite work out for the carthaginians though
@@whatsup5914 Skill issues.
Kroni team : i am building wonder
Kiara team : i wont allow that
Fauna team : MORE ELEPHANT !!!
It's like buying a lot of prism tanks and black hawks in RA2~
Would love to push my elephants slowly into kronii's base, if you know what i mean
leaking that Kroni was doing a wonder was a sucker punch from chat xD
@@KaiserTheDarkWolf In Age of Empires the moment you start building a wonder a notification is sent to everyone. Once it's been built a timer will appear on everyone's screen counting down to when the Wonder will win the match.
@@DianaProudmoore no, its like spamming kirovs
Fauna - even when she hadn't practiced and had nearly zero micro - absolutely *nailed* the RTS fundamentals.
1) maximize economy without sacrificing your ability to fight
2) always be building more units
3) if you're in a winning position, maintain your lead with even more pressure.
^^^ This guy gets it!
I'm almost 40 years old and have been playing AoE since its came out back in 97. Its one of the first RTS games I played and it really hooked me on that genre. Honorable mentions to Empire Earth, SW: Galactic Battlegrounds, ST: Armada, Starcraft, and Warcraft.
But yeah, like you said, whether she had more experience than she let on or she just has a "nature-al" instinct for RTS, she really impressed me with how well she managed her all of that. The 3rd one usually happens anyway because many players will pour it on when they feel a win coming anyway, but the first two, ie - being able to continuously be thinking of your next move and/or managing multiple areas of your game simultaneously are probably the hardest things to get used to in RTS.
Very impressed. Man, I love Fauna.
@@41253_Null_MMD day[9] (in one of his talks about how to play starcraft) pointed out that a *huge* pitfall a lot of not-so-great players fall into is not pressing their advantage (tech level, production, economy, etc) to expand their lead.
They become complacent and leave the door open for a comeback because they didn't properly utilize their lead.
@@41253_Null_MMD man you just reminded me of empire earth, this was the game i played my whole childhood before geting into starcraft 2. such a great game
@@sorannmw3500Yup. Nice scenario editor too, I think that it's thanks to messing with it that I managed to grasp the principles of coding later in life.
She is a pro MLG player
Fauna: "The Gates are OPEN!"
*sends in the war elephants on a rampage*
Also Fauna: "Have I gone too far?" 😅
nature just be like that.
lmao pretty much just like attack on titan
Fauna in the mirror: Tatakae…
"and he plays, "THE GATES ARE OPEN!" and I'm like, look how much I care, heh, I don't care! Anyway I ended up buffing my guys and doing like 70 damage."
In a multiple team game, the one who builds the first Wonder usually dies first LOL.
Not to mention that it's a bad idea in general to rush wonders so early. You usually build wonders when you're in a stalemate (or if you're feeling lame). You don't start building wonders from the get go when you only have, like, a handful of units 😂 (looking at you Kronii).
@@sub2suisei she did ask moona, who said yeah sure go for it🤣
Iirc it's bad idea when you build without reserves war units ready.
Building a wonder early is just announcing to everyone that your army and/or eco is crippled compared to theirs. Assuming similar levels of skill.
Wonders cost like 2000 of every ressource. You could pretty much have a small army, towers and walls instead. That makes them very low in the priority list. Once the wonder falls, it's pretty much over.
Kiara died.
Kronii: Now I can have my castle back
Saw Fauna's elephant army
Kronii: Nevermind.
Oopsie!
Fauna's entire strategy was basically elephants and trebuchets. I know she had some crossbowmen in there too. But it seemed like every chance she got, "more elephants, more trebuchets"
Her chat told her to, and for good reason: Fauna didn't have the experience to build and use good armies, but she could at least keep production up at the castle, and just making sure you're always producing is good enough against new players.
Reminds me of Red Alert 2 Days... Mass Apocalypse Tanks and Kirov airships...
@@ChaosMind10531 Yeah, or Tiberium Wars 3. If you were playing against a new player, simply being aggressive in expanding your income and always producing units wins the game most times. I once played against a friend that nuked my army as it was entering his base, but because he hadn't focused on expanding to other resource areas and massing units, my remaining units outside of the blast radius still more than doubled whatever he had. And unlike him, my production kept running full throttle.
@@ocadioan Indeeed!
Watching her perspective for the war section, every time she had extra resources she would spend them first by getting more crossbowmen, followed after that by elephants
Fauna got Mumei's Civilization blessing at the beginning.
Nature + civilization meant there was no contest
Nature + Civilization = War Elephants
You could say they stood the test of TIME.
@@imimori is it even a test? lol
Mumei: On your feet, Fauna. You're not done yet.
The difference between Civilisation and Nature is a purely semantic one.
That last Kronii/Moona defense was literally Attack on Titans.
Wall Moona, wall Kronii breached!
Except, they are not walls.
@@hermie9737hence why they lost, no walls. They need Gura lol
@@alastorthedemonslayer4257 Oof.
14:51 "I'm on a rampage," Fauna said calmly.
KroniiMoona and ReineKiara chats become their intel team
Meanwhile the other chat: "RELEASE THE ELEPHANTS NOW"
"More Elephant" and "Fauna Sweep"
And yet Kiara was the one to accuse Fauna of using chat
@@Watesoftheoasis I think it was Reine who put out the idea first... Kiara just agreed...
No hate or negativity towards them... Its just what they said while playing... XD
@@Watesoftheoasis Yeah Fauna chat just memeing at that point while Kiara chat have more snitches
@@vtt03 No point in snitching when she already has an advantage and nobody seems to have a clue how to counter the green wave🤣
I love how towards the end of the stream Fauna got stuck in a "...PACK EM UP!.. ROLL EM OUT!" Loop
The chat solved pratical problems
Fauna unintentionally understands the game fundamentals so well that she accidentally walks into a situation where she is victorious. XDXD
I don't know if it's unintentional, she did play dota before becoming a vtuber so there's a chance she has rts experience as well. Obviously still pretty new but maybe more knowledgeable than the others.
@@davidsantiago7808 i agree. She’s smarter than she portrays openly. She knew what she was doing 😂
@@davidsantiago7808 during the stream she said she used to play age of empires but it had been a long time. I guess playing AoE is like riding a bike lmao
@@davidsantiago7808 she accidentally'd into one of the strongest comps in the game. Persian Eles + Archers lol.
@@Zei33 I hear this a lot, the problem is what she portrays to the average clip watcher is "No thoughts head empty," so that's a huge range of possibilities.
Everyone: I was minding my own business!
Kiara: Building castles outside of everyone's cities, causing aggro on herself
Reine: Builds hardly any military, can't provide any backup
Kronii: Trying for the insta-win option that makes you a target to everyone
Moona: Doesn't tell Kronii that the Wonder makes her a target even though she's played before
Age of mythology, titan mod lets goooooo.
And then you have...
Fauna: Builds elephants, siege weapons, and elephants. Sends them to go bother people to see if it works. It does.
Anya: ??? Victory by association!
@@Fullwolf346 Everyone has allignation to win and conquer but suddenly playing victim and dumb when they got trampeled😂.... Fauna never be such hypocrite whenever she's losing at games
"You Have The Freedom To Defend The World's Freedom And I Have The Freedom To Continue Moving Forward."
-Fauna, probably
"Hear me all seedlings, You're all free. I will not stop until the Rumbling has annihilated all of humanity outside the walls"
- Fauna probably
Kronii: "I'll sneak a Wonder in to win!"
Kiara: "I will conquer all!"
Fauna: " _RUMBLING! RUMBLING! WAAAAAA!_ "
Hannibal would be so proud of fauna
Did she go on to sack Rome though?
@@Prich319yeah, she got even further than hannibal did
AOE = Attack On Elephant
Lol
Age Of Elephants
Attack of Elephants
Kiara: engages in harassment campaign against Fauna.
Fauna defends herself
Kiara: “how dare she? Unforgivable!”
In game or something else?
There was no Kiara attacks on Fauna in this game, mainly it was Fauna harassing Reine. Most of the time Kiara wasn't paying attention and she kept walking her army right through the middle of a horde of elephants.
@@GalianMode I am talking about Kiara’s castles outside of Fauna’s walls.
@@GalianMode Kiara and Reine did build castles close to Fauna's walls, ofc Fauna was gonna think that they were attacking her, so she defended herself, and both of them (Kiara & Reine) were malding because Fauna was "attacking" them, and saying that she was reading chat, lmao.
Kiara also tried to counter elephant spam by dropping small group's of pikes into the middle of an enemy horde and was surprised when they died (because they can't beat hordes without numerical advantage).
Kiara started the war but Fauna sure fucking Finish it lol.
And she was so salty about it lol.
From what others have said, Kronii started it by building a wonder so early. I've never played Age of Empires but it sounds like that's a no-no.
@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 As they said, building a wonder and having it survive for long enough means, that the player who built it wins.
In other words, the first person to build a wonder paints a giant target on their back, because now the other players HAVE to move. Either they attack or they lose.
Speak softly and carry a bunch of war elephants. - Ceres Fauna
@@thirteen8582
Kiara is so annoying man, she gives me bad vibes, she seems really fake
Kiara's Blitzkrieg actually works well. However, she should stop focusing on the losing team. Anya's strategy to let their enemies face each other is actually spot on. This could be Kiara's win if she start to army building after Kronii's fall.
Doing good first then losing
She's a true German alright
That and if she managed them properly and not leave them to die...
@@ChaosMind10531winter....russia...stalingrad..flashbacks......
@@kingofherosking3510 Fcking General Winter... Nature trumps blitzkrieg once again...
Oddly enough it was accidentally brilliant of Fauna not to attack Kiara when they were both at Kroni's town, if she had stopped Kiara's advance it would have allowed Moona to keep building up, which would have been it for Anya who was honestly the least experienced player, given Kroni time to recover and also given Kiara incentive to play more defensively. Fauna retreating from a battle she could have won or at least did a lot of damage in insured her victory
Pro Tip: Elephants are slow and the persians don't get heresy tech. If you build monks, those war elephants will be returning to sender.
Yeah I specifically told Kronii several times that monks counter elephants and to create monks but she ignored me lol. She could have won if she just listened to my advice.
They didn't have the micro for monks. Kiara built a few, but she tasked them all to one elephant so she only converted one. Halb spam would have been best but they didn't build enough production buildings to be able to stop a mass of elephants
but if you have Archery support you can easy snipe monk and this be fail
Kiara tried the monk strat but didn't manage to use them because of micromanagement
@@arnargrande1889 bruh you don't have a direct hotline to Kronii, chat flies past so fast she likely never saw your message. And why do you watch other people play games if you just want them to do what you would do.
The fact fauna used elephants in this way scares me because I used to play with Persia every time and the fact that nobody never knew mass archers were the actual best counter revealed the outcome to me. I knew she was going to win.
Yep, i usta roll everbody back in highschool with eles. Once you know how to counter em though its not as good.
I love it when people panic and can't realize those elephants are slow and can be countered with foot archers when controlled properly. Just like how i love to spam conquistadors to hit and run everything while the trebuchets bring down every building easily
I don't think anyone was playing an Archer civilization, so a lot would still need to be massed, and even a rock bottom ELO player can at least zone the Archers out with the elephants while dropping castles or pushing with Trebuchets.
And because Persia gets all the economy upgrades, out producing it gets harder as the game goes on; not that there aren't ways to win, but Persia is top rank on Arena for good reason.
True. Since the Tatars/Mongols are my most played civ I kinda got used to elephants being way too easy to kill, almost forgot how OP they were if they had no counters.
Monks are actually the best counter to elephants, not archers.
Man, I love Fauna
Me too king. Me too
Me too, bro. Me too.
A fellow MILF fan
God, I Love Fauna
MILF : MAN I LOVE FAUNA
"Ya, ya, ya!" It was Moona who whispered those toxic words that poisoned Kronii's brain! If she had said no...there wouldn't be any Rumbling.
Moona is like the Evil Advisor that actually working with the enemy
@@zikriflanery7030 One word is all it takes to destroy a whole civilization.
Such evil.
Tatakae...
Tatakae, Kiara...
Tatakae....
Tatakae, Kronii.....
Tbh I feel like they still wouldn't figure out how to counter the elephants until it's too late. I guess if it wasn't for the early Kiara on Kronii aggression they could've banded together and won against Fauna through sheer numbers
@@MrCh0o Nah, Kiara was bad at multitasking. She takes too long to raise an army and then when she attack she stop training.
Meanwhile Fauna's Castle, archery and TC never stop producing units.
If you watch Fauna vod by the time Kiara attack Kronii, Fauna already have an army of elephants and trebs. While Kiara only have a handful of Teuton knights. She can't rush Fauna alone Fauna Macro game was good
"I don't like being aggressive" says the person who built a castle a few yards from another player's walls lol that s like building a city close enough to someone's capital that you can build an encampment in attack range of thekr capital in civ
i guess they're unfamiliar with the game. but you're right - you forward castle me, you get slapped😂
Where Im from we call that Helsingborg and Helsingør….
just to get it repeatedly destoryed
@penileymajorey7174take a breather buddy. I guarantee you, its not that serious
@penileymajorey7174 what the hell are you yapping about
Someone needs to do a clip of Fauna's trampling elephants and edit in the battle music from AoT.
Having a sex with the bees and the eagles!
Imagine being a villager seeing hundreds of elephants walking *menacingly* towards your city with a plant leading it
Kronii: let's start building wonder so we can win
Meanwhile fauna
Fauna: hehe elephants go!
fauna being all siege units and anya being all cavalry and archers is a powerful alliance
Anya doesn't get enough credit for her support because the elephant horde was too damn funny.
Watching Fauna and Anya giggle their way to victory was very funny.
This event was honestly so nostalgic for me. My Dad, my brother, and I have been playing this game since release, and we still play against each other now and then when we get together for Christmas etc. We even got my niece to play with us now that she's old enough, so there's literally three generations of us playing together. One of my favorite games of all time.
thats beautiful. teach her well.
Awesome!
That is fucking wholesome
I remember poking around this game when I was 3...now I'm 26 and still playing it :)
"Big Mom" Fauna with her army of nature, babies don't have a chance
Fauna’s a Yonko?
Everyone: *busy building their kingdoms*
Fauna: Needs more Elephants!
AI: Require more additional Elephants
her composition for a casual game was actually crazy, Trebuchet to attack from range and destroy castle and walls. elephants for front line to kill, with archers to kill the pikemen that counter elephants
Lmao bread and butter approach worked wonders for her. Why sweat when you can keep it simple? 😎 Wp elephants. Gosh i love Persian civ in aoe 2.
Anya wins by doing nothing , the best strategist 😂
To be fair, if Fauna was Leonidas with the Spartans, Anya was the Arcadian and Helot support.
@@AxleTradewher thespians ;-;
Fauna always cracks me up because she’s so good at everything but she completely underplays how good she is.
Fauna: "Your Uno bullshit powers can't save you this time, Warden of Time."
I just marvel at the tactical acumen by Fauna, of sending one fake-out trebuchet ahead of the main battlegroup
Kiara: Oh! Is Fauna helping us?
(One Fauna's trebuchet turn towards Kiara's castle and throw one rock)
Kiara: Oh...
So... How quick until someone redraws the rumbling scene but it's an horde of Elephants with a giant Fauna behind them. 😂
Just because of the ending, this stream should be counted as a HOLOSALT episode
Other fans- We will fight our own holobros and sisters
Saplings- HUA HUA HUA HUA MOAR ELEPHANTS MOAR DAMAGE
on that day, mankind recieved a grim reminder
Fauna really went "I am The Swarm... ...The Swarm *hungers."* For this match.
Kronii: "Wait, Kiara is dead!? If that's the case, I can restore my castle!!"
Fauna: _The quakes of a million marching elephant feet_ "Konfaunaaa~"
Fun collab. Kiara's idea of building castles near the walls of the bases is a good one but she was being way too cocky about being able to build more given how heavy the cost is (650 stone) and how fast they were being destroyed. Kronii's entire downfall was building that Wonder instead of a military because she had the best economy in the early game with the secondary issue of not noticing how her lumber camp had depleted the wood by the wall and left an opening which Kiara capitalized on. If there were no openings then Kiara would've had to launch an attack on the walls and both Kronii and Moona would've had more time to fight back. Fauna, well, pretty early on once she had access to elephants just decided she'd make a lot of elephants. She reached Imperial age first so she was getting trebuchets ready quickly, too, and she kept a good eye on her economy.
Unfortunately a bit of salt from Kiara, Reine, and Kronii; Kiara being annoyed at Kronii and Moona for not resigning I can kind of understand after the second time they destroyed her town center _and_ had pretty much destroyed all of Moona's things then, too (if not for them hanging on, though, we never would've gotten multiple walls for Fauna's elephants to break through, though). Reine was claiming that chat "snitched" when Fauna attacked her before she was ready (but Fauna was already planning to attack after noticing that first castle Reine had placed between their walls and at that point in time she'd just destroyed most of Kiara AND Reine's army). I do want to see what a no-chat version will be like but I also hope they do a map that's more mixed in nature next time so players can use their navies, too, or seeing how they'd do on an open map. Since Moona was playing as Vikings one of her unique units couldn't really be used on this map.
Fauna be like "lel lets build more chunky bois". Probably the best counter of elephants its an army of priests to wololol the chunky ones.
Only if they are good enough to microcontrol the monks to wololo each elephant...
"they rolled out too much" is one of the all time fauna quotes
as an RTS fan there's nothing better than seeing people who know barely anything just throwing stuff around and seeing what happens, it's so silly and fun
It's funny because Kiara and Reine could have won if instead of building castles they started spamming bombard towers. Still, fun game.
If they have no care for gold, then it works tbh. I am usually more of a castle guy
@penileymajorey7174it's not that serious
@penileymajorey7174
>rage quit
It was proper etiquette to resign. Her team had no realistic opportunity to make a comeback at this point, continuing the game would have been just delaying the inevitable and wasting everyone's time.
If anything, Kronii and Moona were in the wrong for not resigning first. Players who keep prolonging a lost match until the very last builder is hunted down are despised by the RTS community, it's a show of poor sportsmanship. Forgivable for new players who can't tell when they have already lost, of course.
Fauna has some trebuchet. The true answer is raiding Fauna base directly with heavy calvary and ram
5:08 Hearing kiara angrily teuton warms this teuton main's heart.
"Should I start building a wonder?" Historians agree this was the inciting moment of the great Rumbling of 2023.
I bet they were kinda salty about fauna's elephants. They barely talked about it during the discussion at the end of the stream. 😂
They def sound salty, lol
Elephant are expensive and taking so much time to train, it was their fault to let Persia civ build so many elephant for end game but yeah, fauna riding the Flow of war too well.
They did sound a bit salty but I don’t think it was due to the elephants. They probably thought Fauna was using chat intel to attack. That’s why the “no chat” rematch will happen. Them losing to faunas elephants are purely their own fault considering she essentially soloed them.
what can i say. skill issue😅
Anya’s strategy of letting them fight eachother combined with Fauna’s army building of super high tier units was a very good strategy.
"Konfauna, subjects of Ymir. My name is Ceres Fauna."
Oh, its just nature....
wait *she's got a knife*
*and many elephants*
Fauna: COMING FOR UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
“WE FIGHT FOR FAUNA”
- Saplings and elephants 2023
"Do your best elephants" if I am in her army, you bet I would give it 200%
I like how Fauna is like just holding Nemu and watching the whole time
Little did we knew, that during her Zoo Planet stream Fauna was developping bio weapons.
Kronii: builds wonder.
Fauna: commence trampling.
Very fun to see a casual game of new players play AoE2. im 100% certain that orange and teal would win if green did not pick Persians. Mass elephants with trample break somewhat the basic rock, paper, scissors counters of units and just melt melee units in general.
Other than monks that can be hard to use properly when new, a blob of upgraded catapults or hand cannoneers works wonders to counter elephants.
Casual games are the best. Especially some strat are bad and good at the same time.
Remember Blue Coffee?
Nah, mass halbs will still destroy elephants, you'll run out of gold but they'll never run out of food.
mass scorpians work well against elephants too. Just have to have units in front of them to slow the elephants down
@@JustASuscriber not when a horde of elephants are fully upgraded with trample, they melt fast.
Blob of upgraded catapults can one shot them. Hand cannoneers do great damage and you can kite them.
If you don't have gold in this kind of scenario to counter and not invested in right tech.
You are pretty much GG at that point.
@@adahepper2665 Nope, halbs still do well enough, you just need to not mass them into a gate and not have like 10 of them all clumped together. You also need more than 2 barracks's. If you really need to use your gold for anything, get some monks.
Fauna got from just scouting to just conquer the world
Watching Fauna's stream I knew I was going to have fun watching the re-enactment of 'The Rumbling'.
Fauna: Hear me Seedlings, My name is Fauna Ceres. From here on you are all free, and I will start the rumbling. I will not stop until all humanity outside the walls are annihilated.
Everyone else: *scream of terror*
Fauna and Mumei: haha elephants
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE, AND ELEPHANTS FOR ECCENTRICITY
I remember playing aoe2 in my potato PC when i still a kid, i built so many bombard tower so that everyone have hard time to attack me while i built my army
I feel bad for Kroni she felt depressed seeing her town get obliterated
For me, this legendary stream seemingly came out of no where, and I'm glad I was able to watch it live!
You only build a wonder if you have a strong army to defend it during construction and after. It’s a death sentence otherwise since everyone will attack.
And even then... Only as a final resort...
0:52 - Fauna shows her true self (nature is savage and survival oriented) and Anya gave her better advice than Moona did to Kronii.
Fauna had no chill. She obtained a zerg and showed no mercy. Straight for the jugular. One went down and she was on to the next.
This wasn't a war. It was a massacre.
building that castle was a truly evil move. never considered using them offensively before
edit: SHE REBUILT THE CASTLE ON THE EXACT SAME SPOT THE BALLS ON THIS WOMAN
My dad's entire defense is him building turrets near enemy workers and castles near enemy barracks lol
@@water-poweredmachine8291 your father is a menace to society
@@syrusalder7795 I recently learned his playstyle is actually a viable strategy even in pro play. Was astonished that he invented it way back in the days of AoE 1
Aggressive castle and tower dumping is actually quite a viable strategy in higher tier matches. Can be very annoying though when one suddenly appears just in the edge of your base when you're just coming out of the Feudal Age...
-Imma build a wonder !
-Oh yeah ?! Then imma build a wonder too !
-Oh yeah ?! Then imma start the first and only war these lands will ever know !
Everything changed when the Fauna Nation attacked
"So you finally came.
Take this!
Elephant!"
And then Fauna won the war.
Is this a Fire Emblem reference?
@@soapsatellite Yes.
shingeki no elephant
Fauna's zoo keeping was all in preparation for this
When you play a game, they will always have a friends so super salty and make it biter.
Kronii sure was frustrated for someone who clicked the "come kill me" button.
"Everyone was minding their own business"
Then the elephant nation attacked
Fauna actually gave them a grim reminder
Everyone was just minding their own business. Then boom! Elephants! Nature sure is scary.
Fauna was so fed up with Planet Zoo that she decided to create PZ in AoE2
I need someone to make a parody of Fauna ordering the elephants to rampage wh8le "The Rumbling" is playing. XD. That would be hilarious.😂😂
Fauna roleplaying as Hannibal, love to see it
Yooo AOE is so freaking good!
Kronii: "I'm gonna build a wonder!"
Everyone else: "And we took that personally"
Me: Well that escalated quickly.
The way kronii said she can restore her castle was so naive and cute.
Fauna *Sweep*
I loved Kiara's casttle proxy lmao
I love Fauna's soft voice casually saying "I'm on a rampage"
Fauna have new tittle attack on elephant hahaha ❤
Fauna is a delicate flower.
AND A MERCILESS WARLORD!
Mother Nature with a Stampede of Elephants is way too fitting 💀
You dont just put the DOTA player on an RTS and wait for it to not find any exploit