The problem is that boruto has no definite scaling. His opponent lack any showing. Their lack of statements and feats to distinguish how much stronger he has gotten if any. Only his borushiki self has any definite scaling. So it's pretty much unknown how strong he really is.
@@collinleivas9605Ao was jonin bare minimum with the enhancements he was said stronger so base Boruto is a already a high jonin threat then normal karma is shown massively amping him then the karma he used against code was relative to code who was confident he can take current Naruto or Sasuke
Boruto scales pretty well to Kawaki in base and karma forms. Ignoring that, we can consider that a much earlier form of Boruto was at least not completely irrelevant against Momoshiki and follow Boruto's growth since then. He also has a feat the 4th Hokage couldn't accomplish, such as creating a nature-infused rasengan. That feat alone puts him in low-kage level similar to Naruto with rasenshuriken. It also seems pretty clear that Boruto has been relative to Naruto since he lost Kurama, and while it's difficult to scale Naruto at that point, he still has sage mode. Add Boruto's hax with karma, and I think we have high kage level. I can't imagine him losing 1v1 to anyone in the Akatsuki who isn't an Uchiha or Pain, it becomes harder to answer after that. Now, if we include anime, Boruto slaps Akatsuki low diff based on his fight against Urashiki, but I'm not counting that.
I mean he fought Code with Limiteds on and was holding back. It was stated that Code could most likely kill Naruto without Kurama and we know that version of Naruto still bodies the Akatsuki
It is sort of like the Gohan Scenario. Though techically Gohan beat Vegeta Spirit Bomb notwithstanding, but his Oozarou state crushing him and forcing Vegeta into a retreat.
I just wanted to say I LOVE the discord idea and the encouraging of people to be more articulate and think through their thoughts and opinions more through this system of rewards is fucking fantastic. Mad respect my dude!
@@daphenomenalz4100 yes lol, yes he did. I'll help you out though. I think Kiba is the only person in the series that naruto has defeated without kuramas chakra.
te boruto and current mops but without i agree pre te. scaling to kawaki who could run through the verse pretty easily through hax and strength and code theyd just get over powered
Ao not having a Byakugan is the worst decision they could have made for his character, especially if they were going to decide to have him fight Boruto. This would have been an excellent time for Boruto to acknowledge his mother's heritage and use some Gentle Fist and for Ao to comment on remembering the fighting style. How Boruto can use his experience with Hanabi to overcome someone who has one. This could have been a great dynamic with Sarada as well, who's coming into her Sharingan. Imagine the quotes. "I am the son of Hinata Hyuga." "My eyes are better than yours!" "I've killed better Hyuga than you." It's such a missed opportunity. I do love the idea of him missing his other eye, forcing him to rely only on his Byakugan and seeing how that's changed him. Some panels really do give him a haggard veteran look and its fantastic, and I wish there was more of it in Naruto in general.
@@ronin4819 When Momoshiki takes over he gets a byakugan, I wonder if in the future boruto will be able to use the Byakugan/Jogan to see chakra points and actually apply it to his fighting style
You know I always feel like Boruto is stated to be stronger than he is actually show and I do feel like that is a Boruto (the manga/anime) problem is general where characters are said to be on a new level of power dispite it looking like nothing really special Even if we do use true essence karma Boruto dispite him being classified as sage Naruto+ level it just doesn't look like that it feels slow and weak
@@TheVampireCafe it’s called the dragon ball Rule we know the characters are strong enough to destroy the planet even universe, but we have to make the fights look weaker so they Don’t have to bring back the earth every arc.
You overlooked chapter 78 of Boruto where base Boruto was matching version 1 karma Kawaki. Boruto showed enough to say he is not outmatched by version 1 karma Kawaki. That's huge growth.
And they didnt even include true essence boruto, who was equal with code who amado said would beat current naruto (without kuruma) and base naruto solos the akatsuki
@@Random_BS2889 considering a version of naruto that just learned sage mode could push pain that far, for sure current naruto would smoke the Akatsuki 🤣
for a second there I was like "how are bros spitting this bs" cuz I didn't even know there were people that thought Boruto without karma (or without using it properly) was even close to the Akatsuki. Glad to hear you guys agree Borushiki stomps. Great video as always, keep it up
@@gameuniverse5973 I agree. They just started of the video with Boruto losing so I thought they'll continue with that narrative with Borushiki, but they didn't.
Naruto power scaling wise is one of the most analyzed series out there. In a single fight Every hit, amp, set up, statement etc etc is put under a microscope and dissected. While other series I notice a lot of scaling and statements are just taken extremely easily. Naruto fans are extremely critical of their series.
Considering each of the Kages' guards eventually became Kage themselves... Danzo probably thought that highly of his bodyguards, that they were Kage material... but the way Obito dismantled them.
@@weafy6007 Kakashi had the perfect counter for Kamui though, probably the only effective counter anyone alive had. Also, Obito states to Madara later that he let Kakashi stab his heart to remove Madara's curse seal so Madara can't control him anymore. If the fight happens at the time and place where Obito fights Danzo's bodyguards, I can see him winning, though it wouldn't be easy. He doesn't have the Rinnegan yet, but he has Kamui and Izanagi, and immense regen from Hashirama cells.
Six was saying Hokage Sage Naruto wasn't stronger to prove a point he obviously knows he is far stronger. The wisdom of age more so seems like he is wiser with Sage Mode now then as a teen
W video , i get what they trynna say. boruto power scaling and writing is saved by karma and god power cause in naruto there was training arcs now it’s jus rushed it feel like
Everything once the moon people got introduced stopped being Cannon in my head LOL. Narutos ending deserves a rewrite without Kaguya or Zetsu or anything surrounding her.
Something i noticed about the Boruto community is that they overpower a lot of their characters just because they're new characters, someone said delta beats hagoromo 🤣🤣🤣
Thats cuz Naruto/Boruto fans have turned into DB fans. They care more about power levels and whether their characters are the strongest rather than the actual fights themselves or even the story. They cant accept that the power levels fluctuate depending on how the story is going, but i guarantee you as the characters get stronger and stronger you'll see these same people complaining that its turning into DBZ. Far as im concerned Edo Madara still washes 95% of the Boruto cast.
@@gameuniverse5973 I didn't feel like editing a 30 minute video we recorded this last night and I edited it the same night right after that before going to bed so we tried to get the point across as best we can and True Essence/Karma 1 weren't needed.
Six, your thumbnails are AWESOME!!! The style and colors you put in them really calls out attention and becomes easily relatable to you! Really nice video also, i love Boruto and i love the Akatsuki, sooo...
Everything else before is true. But, the part about Naruto's karma. Currently, Boruto's 100% otusu -whatever. And Chapter 78 karma or maybe even base would scale above at least sage mode training Naruto. Since, Boruto can summon giant resangans(don't know how to spell) and suck up every single nature release and normal attack that somebody throws at him. Furthermore, Boruto (post chapter 77) can activate karma automatically and True essence karma without needing Kawaki or Momoshiki. Which also comes with strength boost and etc...
@@slightlyautistic789 Naruto wouldn't win....at all. Yall gotta chill with the bias....true essence boruto so far only loses to maybe end of seriesNaruto, only because we haven't seen him go all out.
Burger King mascot loses i only remember him with his video game having human level feats unless in a commercial he did something crazy Ronald McDonald made a sun and Kool aid man broke the sun in their commercials so who knows
Heres what I think should happen. Everyone needs to be introduced to shinjutsu so that they all can replace their ninjutsu and train/ master it in order to be stronger. This is the only way I think could work for everyone to start becoming stronger without some plot power.
Their are still very OP ninjutsu that can hurt Otsutsuki or cyborgs. Jutsu that has actual nature element and isn't all chakra can't be absorbed so summon water, or fight in a lake, earth jutsu in rocky area, kirin or chidori made from real lightning,
Ino telepath jutsu defeats eida shinjutsu. Flying thunder god is equal to codes teleport jutsu. Deidara microscopic bomb jutsu could've solo beat the alliance in the war unless a hyuga or Uchiha Was around to see it. Kabuto sage jutsu should be useful. Tsunade body pathway Derangement should confuse the person long enough to be murdered by some close attack. Orochimaru has poison in his blood should beat most people
@@ajayimoses2495 I mean same thing goes for naruto💀,I can argue at least boruto managed to defeat a kara member on base but I've never seen naruto beat anyone on base
@@yeah_justarandomguyhere3856 Yeah That was a 4 v 1 Every time boruto fought Kara whether it’s an inner or outer It was a 4 v 1 Naruto basically came in and blended kakuzu with him still having 3 hearts Both naruto and kakuzu were exhausted so it evens out Naruto also In a 4 v 1 beat a 30% clone of friggin ITACHI Naruto in sage mode thrashed a few KAGE in the war arc Bro even pre time skip naruto caught a body like kabuto’s in a 2 v 1 Needless to go on boruto in base IS NOT touching any akatsuki member YET in karma v1 he could take hidan and THATS IT With true essence karma he could get to kisame but stops HARD there With borushiki it’s now a high diff between any of akatsuki’s top 3 I’d say it would go either way Now if it were momoshki himself there’d be almost no contest… unless they fight together and even then it’ll be a mid diff loss for the akatsuki
What I'm wondering that will Eida's power affect Sasori or Daemon's power affect Hidan (skeletal form). Sasori is a puppet and should be void of emotion let alone being a simp. What I'm wondering also is that if Hidan is in his skeletal form and inside the Jashin sign, when he tried to curse Daemon the attack will return to him. But since he's inside the Jashin sign, wouldn't the attack be reflected back to Daemon? This is Ishida vs Haschwalth all over again, where Ishida uses The Antithesis to reverse the damage, but Haschwalth uses The Balance to redirect his misfortune back towards Ishida
Sasori clearly still has emotions though, and he still has a core which serves as a heart. You see him getting annoyed with Deidara. Hell, him dying is him being emotional and emo.
The issue with the Jonin guard argument is that you fail to mention that Kage choose the guys they trust. Ay doesn't trust bee and wants him to be protected (thus why he didn't choose him). Also they choose people whose skillsets helps with their abilities. Notice how most have a tracker shinobi of some sort on their team. Yes you MUST be useful in a fight at the highest levels but they choose guys that help them directly and are trustworthy/useful. If you look at it from that standpoint then the choices of guard makes sense for each village
Borushiki would definitely beat Akatsuki, the problem is Obito. If he sees the Akatsuki getting clapped, won't he prepare Izanagi? And Borushiki form doesn't last long, soon as he passes out, I doubt he'd think twice about letting him live
@@gameuniverse5973 Scaling is inconsistent in Boruto, where Boruto kept up in Taijutsu against Fused Momoshiki. If shit like that can happen then I can't see why he can't react.
@@shadowsun649karma one alone has better feats made base adult Naruto use a clone to block a hit from him and hold back isshiki cube for a bit which literally neg a cloak clone of Naruto and Sasuke avoided specifically to avoid them
And that’s if borushiki can take them all at the same time Anyone below kisame is fair game But above that they have the raw power and scaling to tango And anyone on par with itachi can take a 1v1 with borushiki quite easily
For the mere fact that we're having this convo says alot about how strong that 12 year old is and for anyone who says borushiki isnt boruto remember True Essence is Boruto meaning boruto should still be able to use karma against the akatsuki members cause he is still himself with a crazy amp🤷♀️
I know this vid is from a year ago but Boruto in the manga rn would rock the Akatsuki, i dont know about being jumped by them but one on one it isn't close at all. BORUTO GOT ALL OF THEM ON A LEASH
Hopefully Boruto goes on an arc where he tries to not use karma and just focuses on his own power, don't get me wrong, I love Borushiki but I just want him to get a W against a non-fodder character in base instead of relying on karma to save him.
Current manga boruto is one shotting 90% of the akatsuki bro you HAD made this to appease the viewers fr cause ain’t no way you think TE boruto isn’t one shotting half of this list 😭
The power scale is so different that you can’t even compare the two, Fast in Boruto looks slow in the Naruto series where you have characters appear and disappear in a blink of an eye, a destructive attack in Boruto (the giant Rasengan) looks dull in comparison to the destructive attacks in Naruto
Ao is nowhere near current Boruto’s level, I don’t see the point in scaling pre kara arc Boruto, when he literally is approaching his prime after kara arc
yo did y’all say ao was weaker for lossing a BYUKUGAN ? dude got ninja tech from amado and byukugan drained him heavily of chakra since it wasn’t his eye its just be easier for boruto to drain his chakra like in the actual fight. plus amado had absorption which we know how op it is. i don’t think it’s crazy for boruto or anything but boruto has experience fighting agaisnt byukugan and it has been pretty usless in battle since like pt1 unless you were like kaguya think ninja tech >
Saying the kage guard aren't top jonin just because Kakashi and guy weren't chosen doesn't mean anything. Danzo chose foundation members to escort him because he has absolute control over the foundation. Three of the other kage guard literally go on to become kage themselves.
It would be the 2 strongest Dojutsu vs Eachother. I'd say the Akatsuki wins if he doesn't use Momoshiki. Nagato can summon the Gedo statue, Summon animals, Summon the king of hell, snatch your soul out of your body, control gravity, throw chakra rods at you, absorb jutsu, summon 6 bodies to fight for him, shoot missiles at you and trap you in a giant ball of earth. Boruto gets clapped if it's him versus all of them or just pain. The rest of them could win based off of sheer experience and their abilities. Konan could suffocate him in paper, Itachi could drown him in Genjutsu, Kisame could easily fuse with Samehada and blitz Boruto, Sasori could spam his Iron sand, Hidan could perform his ritual and kill Boruto by stabbing himself, Kakuzu has Giant fireballs, Deidara could just send 1000 birds at Boruto and kill him, Tobi could spam Kamui and kill him like he did Konan and Orochimaru could just put a curse mark on him to make him go through pain ( no pun intended ) or just poison him. He loses in a 1v1 and vs all of them unless he uses Momoshiki.
Headcanon to assume Ao wasn't boosted in ability or combat efficiency by the multitude of scientific ninja weaponry he was enhanced with? I'd say so, because that was added to his body and clearly isn't just to move. That's for fighting. Otherwise he'd not have chakra blades, drones that meld and fire off his chakra in chakra blasts, or chakra canons throughout his body. I would say at a low-ball, he's equal to his former self. What I'd actually argue, is he's a fair amount stronger than that. We never got to see him do much in Shippuden, in battle. Only a little, so it is hard to judge that saying he's borderline, no stronger at all. Cap.
the argument that he’s still the same strength fits tho, we don’t know Ao’s full power and there’s nothing really proving that the ninja took prothestics amped him only that he might just be at the same unquantifiable level of power he was initially. TLDR it’s not a headcanon rather than there isn’t enough info to prove or disprove.
@@doodoohead5631 figuring a ninja of the quality he was as a Shinobi, would be absolutely worth squat nowadays, should say something. Someone of that calibur isn't even likely on Konohamaru's level in Boruto. We all know what he's capable of, even if he's been packed up more often than not. Why? Because of the power cliffing, that's why. Konohamaru probably wasn't sure of taking on cyborg Ao 1v1. Yet he took on an adult Jugo with likely more chakra and skill than ever in Shippuden. I would not see Ao of Shippuden, going 1v1 against a CM2 Jugo. Whether the past Jugo or especially the Boruto era Jugo. If Konohamaru can feel confident to take Jugo on as an adult, but not Ao; there's got to be a reason. We never knew how strong Ao was back in Shippuden. He never had enough showings to prove himself. I stated this, as did you. All we can do is speculate that, but his showing in Boruto has more than anything from Shippuden to show. All I'ma say, is I believe opposite of you, and I don't care to follow the other side's logic. Too headcanon, in my opinion. Like scientific technology hasn't been able to beef characters way more than before. Even in the Outers, like Garo for example. Inners got special treatment however, and were more compatible with experimentation as we've seen.
@@doodoohead5631 also, to assume Ao as a cyborg was using all of what he had available to him. Or going all out, against primarily some kids, is probably also headcanon. He really didn't get actually serious until towards the end of the fight, when he used the chakra drones he had. Stating he'd planned not to use them; AKA holding back. 🤷🏻♂️
Think I heard some where that the Boruto Novel of Boruto the Movie, considers Boruto and Sarada to be around Jonin Level. Different material and all but over all rating their base capabilties being around low to mid level Jonin is pretty good for their age and their actual rank. But yeah don't really think they can take on even Low End Ataksuki members. Karma Activated Boruto has issues he doesn't really know how to use it on his own or even properly if according to Code. But who knows unless it gives him enough of a power amp to blitz lower ranking memebers.
@@milesrieger7449 See I get that, but at the same time the point with Code is that in that fight Boruto was getting toyed with by Code cause he was interested in seeing how he performed with his Karma, hence his critique. And I think True Essance still gives Boruto a lot of raw power. And can absorb Ninjutsu. Though, would it be enough to subdue the more cunning members of the Ataksuki Duos? Like Blitzing Kakuzo and Hidan sure, or Deidra and Sasori if he avoid any cuts from Sasori's posion. Or those particle explosions from Deidra. But what of the more hax based members, like Itachi's Genjutsu. Or the more technical fighter in Pain with his 6 paths. With no prior knowlege and assuming True Essence Karma Boruto is higher end relative to them they could still pull out a win if they mange any of their win conditons if he's really caught off guard, be it Tsyukyomi and the sword of Totsuka from Itachi or that soul stealing move from Pain or maybe keep him at bay with all mighty push. Borushiki however could clear all those hurdles because not only he has an insane power increase that's proven, but also a higher battle IQ due to Momoshiki's actual experenice being in the driver's seat. So much he even innovated on Boruto's techinques himself such as the Rasendan.
@@Naruku2121 the gap in RAW Power between true Essence Boruto and Akatuski is top big that's Like comparing them to 6 path sage Mode teenage Naruto. Plus in true Essence Form He gets all the Combat exprience from Momoshiki. Plus Since He's an Ostsuski he can't He affected by Genjutsu. All their Hacks dont Work Werther Rinnegan abilities which where Bring stopped by 6 tails Naruto to Itachi Susanno. He probably treat it Like Jigen did with Sasuke Susanno sinse it's a weaker Version. Nothing they throw at him Works. And the phyiscal gap is Just to big to be overcome by akatuski.
The statements in the Narutoverse are rarely consistent and simply just a lazy way to present someone's strength Example:Tsunade is only relevant because she's mentioned as one of the legendary sannin but as an individual fighter she never lived up to expectations Kishimoto wrote for her
Yeah this sounds about right. The like only arguments in Borutos favor are basically if you try to use Momo chakra pills to crazy upscale Boruto above the 8 tails. Like classic 6 lol.
I think the more level and interesting debate would be Boruto vs The Sound Four. They, and I mean this loosely, are kinda like the Naruto Part 1 version of the Akatsuki as far as a gang of villains goes. It's also more fair because this is essentially Boruto Part 1, and it's like kids v kids, not a kid v adult super villains
Six you were the only one scaling Boruto so high. You literally made a video of “New Team 7 vs Old Team 7” scaling Boruto without Karma above Killer Bee😂 Now your saying WE are the ones overrating him ok buddy.
Not to mention he just completely ignored boruto scaling to current kawaki and pre limiters removed code, not only that but there’s the boro fight as well where he was popping off, six can’t really ever seem to have a consistent scale for characters
@@collinleivas9605 Hell nah I’m not hearing that. This information has been out for years ain’t nothing changed. He really disagreed with the community who had been saying Boruto is not that strong a few years ago and now he’s switching up saying we’re overrating him. If anything it makes his scaling video not credible at all.
Another point to make about Borushiki is the fact that he might speed blitz Obito before he can even think to use Kamui. Minato was able to do this after slamming his Rasengan into Obito, he was sitting on the tree and recovering and Minato stabbed him and released the Nine Tails and Obito didn't have time to react and use Kamui. So Borushiki might actually just kill him because he's so fast, Obito wouldn't be able to react to him lol
@@phantomzero1982 No I'm saying that based off of the fact that we've seen Obito can get speed blitzed so hard that his brain can't think to use Kamui fast enough to use it, then that means that regardless of how strong, fast, or age, as long as the opponent is fast enough, the same situation can be replicated.
@@phantomzero1982 honestly if boruto was on a mission to slaughter the akatsuki, he could. The only people I consider relevant to the fight is itachi, pain, obito. But the fact that boruto could easily smack around code who has a superior version of FTG (a lot more versatile and seems to be no limit to how many times he can spam it) itachi just isn't there in speed neither is pain. I mean I refuse to believe sick itachi can handle that speed. Basically that leaves obito and I think boruto will catch obito off guard by following him into his dimension and obito will be off guard getting killed. Now if its just boruto without any reason to fight akatsuki boruto will have to retreat.
Borushiki will be overwhelmed because the Akatsuki aren’t like normal ninjas from the Boruto era. They have hax abilities just like him that can bypass strength differences. Itachi’s deadly genjutsu, and Tsukuyomi. Nagato’ s almighty push, pull, and ability to absorb chakra. Sasori’ s deadly poisons that will kill if the oponnent does not have poison immunity. Deidara’ s ultimate explosion techniques that disentegrate foes. Obito’ s space time ninjutsu ( space time jutsu is no joke, as seen with code).
this is such a weird matchup basically the same as asking if part one Naruto could take on any akatsuki duo alone. When no character in the series has till like the war arc
Boroshiki vs Akatsuki interesting fight - I think the Akatsuki will use their intellect, knowledge and strategies to outsmart Boroshiki, because i think Boruto is still a long way to go for hin to surpass the Akatsuki
How if he just blitz them before they can even react plus borushki is just momoshiki in boruto’s body and trying to argue Momoshiki losing to a shippuden character is silly 💀
@@blueprinceyt4620 I don't know what attack can Boroshiki do againts Obito perhaps vanishing Rasengan or Rasendan. Boroshiki can absorb ninjutsu but can't shoot it back that's the disadvantage of Boroshiki
@@ultragaming1650borushiki made sealed code s h i t himself the guy who was confident he can take current Naruto and Sasuke base Naruto at fifty percent alone scales over the Akatsuki by keeping up with FUSED momoshiki
This is like putting land of waves part 1 naruto against the Akatsuki. Something more interesting is kid Kakashi vs Boruto. I hope after the time skip Boruto shows more of this “op karma 1000 years of fighting” amp.
I do agree that people (new fans that are just coming in from Boruto) are stupid and don’t realize how the power scaling works in Boruto/ Naruto. I’m guessing the intention of this video is to start scaling Boruto and the first gauntlet every character goes up against in the naruto scaling verse is the Akatsuki.
Boruto dog walks kid kakashi with sharingan or without . Doesn’t even need karma . Base boruto can confirmed dodge/react to chidori ( ex: boruto team 7 vs boro) which is kid kakashi ace jutsu
Boruto slams the akatsuki without borushiki. The fastest akatsuki member is ftl while base boruto reacted to fused momoshiki and kawaki’s black rods. If we count juubito he has planetary ap. But it doesn’t matter since Boruto can just absorb all chakra except physical energy like codes clawmarks. Boruto also didn’t use the Jougan in the manga he was only in base
Yeah it's stupid the Akatsuki get smoked.....Daemon smokes them easily it's not even funny. Daemon is catching Chakra rods with his teeth are y'all stupid bruh?😭 Sauske with his sharingan can't keep up with it. Which BARYON Mode Naruto was the only other to catch the rods.
@@tymon39 he absorbs it lmao he absorbed kawaki's daikokuten dimensional seal witch is just a portal shot out in a beam from his eye that traps u in a timeless dimension
@@Mentallyinasne009 absorbs what exactly? There’s nothing to absorb lmaooo you can’t absorb Kamui buddy and rinnegan absorption already cancels out his absorption
What ppl seem to forget is that akatsuki is always going up against plotarmor... And compete with it.. look at Azuma the famous leaf shinobi how long he last against Hidan when his plotarmor runned out
Hidan is pretty dangerous, especially for up close fighters, and if you don't know how his abilities work. He just happened to be a really bad match-up for Azuma.
Boruto is such a bad, poorly written, and uninspired series that it brings a tear to my eye knowing some of the absolute goats from naruto would get clapped by him even if, on paper, they would. Boruto is just not canon in my eyes and never will be.
Literally a bad fan fiction level Mary Sue. "Hey guys my character mastered 3 chakra natures before leaving the academy and solos all of the past series all at once. Isn't he so cool?" I'm surprised he didn't also master sage mode, rasenshurhiken, and flying Raijin before he finished potty training.
I think it's also worth mentioning that for the Ao fight, konohamaru is there..... and like... still lol The debate idea sounds amazing and pretty well thought out, I really hope it works out
Any relevant boruto character vs akatsuki isnt fair
facts
Yeah Akatsuki fucking stomps every Boruto character (Daemon can't even break a wall c mon)
facts boruto characters stomp
@@Foxes4035 daemon can reflect his attacks back at his opponents
@@Foxes4035 So what fanboy of the Akastuki are you pain or Itachi.
The problem is that boruto has no definite scaling. His opponent lack any showing. Their lack of statements and feats to distinguish how much stronger he has gotten if any. Only his borushiki self has any definite scaling. So it's pretty much unknown how strong he really is.
He fights Ao even if it is a weaker or stronger version, it is still Ao
@@collinleivas9605Ao was jonin bare minimum with the enhancements he was said stronger so base Boruto is a already a high jonin threat then normal karma is shown massively amping him then the karma he used against code was relative to code who was confident he can take current Naruto or Sasuke
Boruto scales pretty well to Kawaki in base and karma forms. Ignoring that, we can consider that a much earlier form of Boruto was at least not completely irrelevant against Momoshiki and follow Boruto's growth since then. He also has a feat the 4th Hokage couldn't accomplish, such as creating a nature-infused rasengan. That feat alone puts him in low-kage level similar to Naruto with rasenshuriken.
It also seems pretty clear that Boruto has been relative to Naruto since he lost Kurama, and while it's difficult to scale Naruto at that point, he still has sage mode. Add Boruto's hax with karma, and I think we have high kage level. I can't imagine him losing 1v1 to anyone in the Akatsuki who isn't an Uchiha or Pain, it becomes harder to answer after that.
Now, if we include anime, Boruto slaps Akatsuki low diff based on his fight against Urashiki, but I'm not counting that.
I mean he fought Code with Limiteds on and was holding back. It was stated that Code could most likely kill Naruto without Kurama and we know that version of Naruto still bodies the Akatsuki
@@SuperStationCr1fifty percent base Naruto already butchers them by just keeping up with FUSED momoshiki
In Summary: Suggesting Borut 'beat' Momoshiki is like saying that bouncing a Spirit Bomb off of Gohan means that Gohan won the fight.
It is sort of like the Gohan Scenario. Though techically Gohan beat Vegeta Spirit Bomb notwithstanding, but his Oozarou state crushing him and forcing Vegeta into a retreat.
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I just wanted to say I LOVE the discord idea and the encouraging of people to be more articulate and think through their thoughts and opinions more through this system of rewards is fucking fantastic. Mad respect my dude!
Same it feels hype af
Boruto needs Momoshiki to take the wheel on just about every scenario with The Akatsuki whether it’s 1v1 or him taking all of them on at once.
Well that's no different from naruto needing kurama to win lol. Name 1 Canon fight in the series naruto won without kuramas chakra.
@@justthefacts6902 5/6 paths of Pain. Base Naruto Vs Momoshiki (Manga).
@@justthefacts6902 naruto didn't use Kurama to defeat pain :)
@@daphenomenalz4100 yes lol, yes he did. I'll help you out though. I think Kiba is the only person in the series that naruto has defeated without kuramas chakra.
te boruto and current mops but without i agree pre te. scaling to kawaki who could run through the verse pretty easily through hax and strength and code theyd just get over powered
Ao not having a Byakugan is the worst decision they could have made for his character, especially if they were going to decide to have him fight Boruto. This would have been an excellent time for Boruto to acknowledge his mother's heritage and use some Gentle Fist and for Ao to comment on remembering the fighting style. How Boruto can use his experience with Hanabi to overcome someone who has one. This could have been a great dynamic with Sarada as well, who's coming into her Sharingan. Imagine the quotes.
"I am the son of Hinata Hyuga."
"My eyes are better than yours!"
"I've killed better Hyuga than you."
It's such a missed opportunity. I do love the idea of him missing his other eye, forcing him to rely only on his Byakugan and seeing how that's changed him. Some panels really do give him a haggard veteran look and its fantastic, and I wish there was more of it in Naruto in general.
Sick idea
Boruto already uses gentle palm. He just doesn’t have a byakyugan to attack the chakra points with it or use the techniques.
@@ronin4819 When Momoshiki takes over he gets a byakugan, I wonder if in the future boruto will be able to use the Byakugan/Jogan to see chakra points and actually apply it to his fighting style
I think Ao's role was to reject being a ninja because of what happened in the war.
@@M3rtyville doesn't mean he can't have a byakugan.
so glad you're back to consistent uploads six, your content is always so fire
audios so clean to listen to
You know I always feel like Boruto is stated to be stronger than he is actually show and I do feel like that is a Boruto (the manga/anime) problem is general where characters are said to be on a new level of power dispite it looking like nothing really special
Even if we do use true essence karma Boruto dispite him being classified as sage Naruto+ level it just doesn't look like that it feels slow and weak
That's an issue in anime in general I've always thought characters are way stronger then the scaling implies but no real way to show it.
@@TheVampireCafe it’s called the dragon ball Rule we know the characters are strong enough to destroy the planet even universe, but we have to make the fights look weaker so they Don’t have to bring back the earth every arc.
Prime hiruzen better written
Yh the powerscaling in Boruto is HORRIBLE. They do A LOT of TELLING and barely ANY SHOWING
@@no.1spidey-fan182w t f you want them to show they literally shows alot
You overlooked chapter 78 of Boruto where base Boruto was matching version 1 karma Kawaki. Boruto showed enough to say he is not outmatched by version 1 karma Kawaki. That's huge growth.
Exactly they completely ignored the chapter after boruto got resurrected
And they didnt even include true essence boruto, who was equal with code who amado said would beat current naruto (without kuruma) and base naruto solos the akatsuki
@@Random_BS2889 considering a version of naruto that just learned sage mode could push pain that far, for sure current naruto would smoke the Akatsuki 🤣
@@gavinma4831 agreed this video was bad lmao everybody love hatin on boruto
for a second there I was like "how are bros spitting this bs" cuz I didn't even know there were people that thought Boruto without karma (or without using it properly) was even close to the Akatsuki. Glad to hear you guys agree Borushiki stomps. Great video as always, keep it up
You have to be higher than a kite of you think any version of borushiki is losing to the Akatsuki dude probably beating juubidara
@@gameuniverse5973 I agree. They just started of the video with Boruto losing so I thought they'll continue with that narrative with Borushiki, but they didn't.
He’s stronger then majority of them expect NOT beating pain/obito or soloing imo
@@gameuniverse5973 literally cap. madara kill borushiki 0 diff. borushiki isnt even close to momoshikis strength
@@waifuislaifu8791 seethe Shippudentard borushiki runs juubidaras fade
Naruto power scaling wise is one of the most analyzed series out there. In a single fight Every hit, amp, set up, statement etc etc is put under a microscope and dissected. While other series I notice a lot of scaling and statements are just taken extremely easily. Naruto fans are extremely critical of their series.
which is funny, because Naruto is also super inconsistent with its scaling lol.
@@hoofhearted4 I disagree, I actually think kishimoto’s scaling of the characters are pretty consistent and all wins and losses make sense
@@tsukune2910 lol. We'll agree to disagree then.
@@hoofhearted4its really not
@@Ok-uw3jq sure it is. Especially come war arc. What we see vs what we're told is wildly inconsistent.
Considering each of the Kages' guards eventually became Kage themselves...
Danzo probably thought that highly of his bodyguards, that they were Kage material...
but the way Obito dismantled them.
Yes they lost to the kamui user. Arguably the best sharingan in Naruto.
To be fair, Obito probably could have dismantled the 5 kage by himself too.
@@Guah00man got torn apart by kakashi he ain't beating 5 kage
@@weafy6007 Kakashi had the perfect counter for Kamui though, probably the only effective counter anyone alive had. Also, Obito states to Madara later that he let Kakashi stab his heart to remove Madara's curse seal so Madara can't control him anymore.
If the fight happens at the time and place where Obito fights Danzo's bodyguards, I can see him winning, though it wouldn't be easy. He doesn't have the Rinnegan yet, but he has Kamui and Izanagi, and immense regen from Hashirama cells.
@@Guah00 kamui really isn't all that impressive he got tagged by everyone he fought
Troy really out here doing collabs from prison. Salute the grind
Prison wifi is better than I thought 😂
I wanted to comment that but figured I lay off this time
naruto says he got stronger on sage mode when he pinpointed boruto's location. he addressed it to be because of the wisdom of age
Six was saying Hokage Sage Naruto wasn't stronger to prove a point he obviously knows he is far stronger. The wisdom of age more so seems like he is wiser with Sage Mode now then as a teen
@@collinleivas9605 ik what he was saying im just addressing something and naruto meant he's better and stronger at sage mode than before
I love that discord debating idea. Sound incredibly fun. Just wish I was good at debating 🤣
This should be common sense. Boruto w/o karma amp is jonin level at best.. now post time skip may be a different story
idk boroshiki smacks
not just jonin LVL, at least kage LVL or jigher
@@takashua juuugo is kage, so id say low kage for boruto
@@DandyInLuv dude mastered rasegsn quicker than Naruto and did it better
Base Boruto is high jonin alone by beating a amped Ao low Kage level by now with karma he beating the Akatsuki
W video , i get what they trynna say. boruto power scaling and writing is saved by karma and god power cause in naruto there was training arcs now it’s jus rushed it feel like
So basically when kawaki goes from k1 to k2, he goes from jonin level to stronger than kaguya level. 😏
That is isshiki's Karma
The debate chronicles finna go crazy
Everything once the moon people got introduced stopped being Cannon in my head LOL. Narutos ending deserves a rewrite without Kaguya or Zetsu or anything surrounding her.
Lmao cant say I blame you💀. I gave them enough grace to consider the Boruto movie canon. After that it was happily ever after😂
If prime hiruzen was the main villain they would’ve lost
U cant rewrite naruto without kaguya ans zetsu
@@chalbramwell5353 yes you can because they were last minute retcons😂
@@no.1spidey-fan182 bro they were in the story for a lomg time if u read the manga taking out kaguya and zetsu completely things would be bad
so nice of troy to use his one phone call to record this video from prison!
Something i noticed about the Boruto community is that they overpower a lot of their characters just because they're new characters, someone said delta beats hagoromo 🤣🤣🤣
Hagoromo called juubidara as reaching his level he a delta victim
Thats cuz Naruto/Boruto fans have turned into DB fans. They care more about power levels and whether their characters are the strongest rather than the actual fights themselves or even the story. They cant accept that the power levels fluctuate depending on how the story is going, but i guarantee you as the characters get stronger and stronger you'll see these same people complaining that its turning into DBZ. Far as im concerned Edo Madara still washes 95% of the Boruto cast.
Thank you for watching :)
Discord Link: discord.gg/era6
No karma one or true essence Boruto scaling what
Im banned from ur cord I think😭😭😭😭
What about the anime canon
@Six can you do
War arc orochimaru vs valley madara
War arc Orochimaru vs Dms kakashi
@@gameuniverse5973 I didn't feel like editing a 30 minute video we recorded this last night and I edited it the same night right after that before going to bed so we tried to get the point across as best we can and True Essence/Karma 1 weren't needed.
Six, your thumbnails are AWESOME!!! The style and colors you put in them really calls out attention and becomes easily relatable to you!
Really nice video also, i love Boruto and i love the Akatsuki, sooo...
I appreciate it but I don't make these thumbnails I have them drawn by my friend Dan the credit is his.
Everything else before is true. But, the part about Naruto's karma. Currently, Boruto's 100% otusu -whatever. And Chapter 78 karma or maybe even base would scale above at least sage mode training Naruto. Since, Boruto can summon giant resangans(don't know how to spell) and suck up every single nature release and normal attack that somebody throws at him. Furthermore, Boruto (post chapter 77) can activate karma automatically and True essence karma without needing Kawaki or Momoshiki. Which also comes with strength boost and etc...
But then, Naruto would just beat the fuck out of him with his Frog Kumite. Or fuck with him, by making Boruto absorb his Nature energy.
@@slightlyautistic789 Naruto wouldn't win....at all. Yall gotta chill with the bias....true essence boruto so far only loses to maybe end of seriesNaruto, only because we haven't seen him go all out.
Getting my notebook and preparing the best debunk ever, I'm 11 seconds into the video
Damn, bro called me out on my bullshit in a minute
Basically he would be forced to switch with borushiki just to come back and win
Six sponsoring his own video is new levels 😂🔥
Next video should be Burger King advertiser vs Santa Claus
Burger King mascot loses i only remember him with his video game having human level feats unless in a commercial he did something crazy Ronald McDonald made a sun and Kool aid man broke the sun in their commercials so who knows
Heres what I think should happen. Everyone needs to be introduced to shinjutsu so that they all can replace their ninjutsu and train/ master it in order to be stronger. This is the only way I think could work for everyone to start becoming stronger without some plot power.
I think shinjutsu is trash and should be retconned out of the story
Their are still very OP ninjutsu that can hurt Otsutsuki or cyborgs. Jutsu that has actual nature element and isn't all chakra can't be absorbed so summon water, or fight in a lake, earth jutsu in rocky area, kirin or chidori made from real lightning,
Ino telepath jutsu defeats eida shinjutsu. Flying thunder god is equal to codes teleport jutsu. Deidara microscopic bomb jutsu could've solo beat the alliance in the war unless a hyuga or Uchiha Was around to see it. Kabuto sage jutsu should be useful. Tsunade body pathway Derangement should confuse the person long enough to be murdered by some close attack. Orochimaru has poison in his blood should beat most people
Yoo 6 that discord idea is so 🔥 I’m joinin for sure
Bro I was expecting you to talk about where he scales with the karma not about base💀
It becomes not fun I can argue normal karma Boruto beats them much less code karma Boruto, borushiki,and post death revival Boruto
They fully know karma boruto will humiliate their beloved akatsuki members so they use base boruto to please narutards💀
@@yeah_justarandomguyhere3856
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Yeah nice joke
He needs momoshiki taking over to even survive that fight
@@ajayimoses2495 I mean same thing goes for naruto💀,I can argue at least boruto managed to defeat a kara member on base but I've never seen naruto beat anyone on base
@@yeah_justarandomguyhere3856
Yeah
That was a 4 v 1
Every time boruto fought Kara whether it’s an inner or outer
It was a 4 v 1
Naruto basically came in and blended kakuzu with him still having 3 hearts
Both naruto and kakuzu were exhausted so it evens out
Naruto also In a 4 v 1 beat a 30% clone of friggin ITACHI
Naruto in sage mode thrashed a few KAGE in the war arc
Bro even pre time skip naruto caught a body like kabuto’s in a 2 v 1
Needless to go on boruto in base IS NOT touching any akatsuki member YET in karma v1 he could take hidan and THATS IT
With true essence karma he could get to kisame but stops HARD there
With borushiki it’s now a high diff between any of akatsuki’s top 3
I’d say it would go either way
Now if it were momoshki himself there’d be almost no contest… unless they fight together and even then it’ll be a mid diff loss for the akatsuki
The server debate ranking stuff was a great idea fam
What I'm wondering that will Eida's power affect Sasori or Daemon's power affect Hidan (skeletal form). Sasori is a puppet and should be void of emotion let alone being a simp. What I'm wondering also is that if Hidan is in his skeletal form and inside the Jashin sign, when he tried to curse Daemon the attack will return to him. But since he's inside the Jashin sign, wouldn't the attack be reflected back to Daemon? This is Ishida vs Haschwalth all over again, where Ishida uses The Antithesis to reverse the damage, but Haschwalth uses The Balance to redirect his misfortune back towards Ishida
With a heart
He can't even get the blood he needs to curse him
@@shadrachwilson5981
Let's just say in this scenario Hidan got Daemon's blood (let's just imagine)
Sasori clearly still has emotions though, and he still has a core which serves as a heart. You see him getting annoyed with Deidara. Hell, him dying is him being emotional and emo.
@@kodoqbesar4301then it just keeps going back and forth forever until hidan dies of old age
Very interesting video, some good information. Fantastic work from two of the realest out.
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The issue with the Jonin guard argument is that you fail to mention that Kage choose the guys they trust. Ay doesn't trust bee and wants him to be protected (thus why he didn't choose him). Also they choose people whose skillsets helps with their abilities. Notice how most have a tracker shinobi of some sort on their team. Yes you MUST be useful in a fight at the highest levels but they choose guys that help them directly and are trustworthy/useful. If you look at it from that standpoint then the choices of guard makes sense for each village
Borushiki would definitely beat Akatsuki, the problem is Obito. If he sees the Akatsuki getting clapped, won't he prepare Izanagi? And Borushiki form doesn't last long, soon as he passes out, I doubt he'd think twice about letting him live
Obito gets clap before he can even perceive borushiki that one rasengan he did to code would one shot the entire Akatsuki
@@gameuniverse5973 Scaling is inconsistent in Boruto, where Boruto kept up in Taijutsu against Fused Momoshiki. If shit like that can happen then I can't see why he can't react.
@@shadowsun649karma one alone has better feats made base adult Naruto use a clone to block a hit from him and hold back isshiki cube for a bit which literally neg a cloak clone of Naruto and Sasuke avoided specifically to avoid them
And that’s if borushiki can take them all at the same time
Anyone below kisame is fair game
But above that they have the raw power and scaling to tango
And anyone on par with itachi can take a 1v1 with borushiki quite easily
@@ajayimoses2495 No borushiki is stronger then six paths cloak naruto at the end of the show atleast he blitz’s and one shots
That debate thing is so cool , i might just
Six had to visit Troy in jail to get this video together
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Nah six ate and spit him back out to get him out of jail
@@xSimplyTroy we gon get you out
Yo this debate idea u got is kinda crazy
For the mere fact that we're having this convo says alot about how strong that 12 year old is and for anyone who says borushiki isnt boruto remember True Essence is Boruto meaning boruto should still be able to use karma against the akatsuki members cause he is still himself with a crazy amp🤷♀️
I honestly put post resurrection boruto at the point to where he basically solos the war arc until maybe like kaguya and full ten tails jubidara
Great video! Would love to see an in-depth video of BoruShiki and possible vs matches with current Sage Naruto
These new kids are op
Still prime hiruzen victims🔥🔥🔥
@@6paths988 lol
I know this vid is from a year ago but Boruto in the manga rn would rock the Akatsuki, i dont know about being jumped by them but one on one it isn't close at all. BORUTO GOT ALL OF THEM ON A LEASH
Hopefully Boruto goes on an arc where he tries to not use karma and just focuses on his own power, don't get me wrong, I love Borushiki but I just want him to get a W against a non-fodder character in base instead of relying on karma to save him.
Yeah without karma he is straight up chunin level to be honest.
@@austinthompson3075 bro he nearly defeated Deepa with his base compression rasengan so how is that chunin lvl
@@lowkomotivemcswagger7645 Kid konohamary defeated one of the Paths of Pain . What’s your point?
@@maalikserebryakov its not the same obv
OOOH THIS Sponsor kinda heat.
Current manga boruto is one shotting 90% of the akatsuki bro you HAD made this to appease the viewers fr cause ain’t no way you think TE boruto isn’t one shotting half of this list 😭
He meant Base Boruto. But still so many people are Stück in shippuden
@@milesrieger7449 I mean base boruto is enough to so all of shippuden with out including kaguya and Naruto and sasuke
The power scale is so different that you can’t even compare the two, Fast in Boruto looks slow in the Naruto series where you have characters appear and disappear in a blink of an eye, a destructive attack in Boruto (the giant Rasengan) looks dull in comparison to the destructive attacks in Naruto
Ao is nowhere near current Boruto’s level, I don’t see the point in scaling pre kara arc Boruto, when he literally is approaching his prime after kara arc
Hiruzen prime form>
They both fodder anyway
@@marcoslightspeed5517 i already debunk your base Boruto is not jonin or Kage level do we have to do this again
@@gameuniverse5973 you think you debunked it
@@gameuniverse5973 plus your comment wasn't sent to me
You have great discussion heading, but I'm not sure you go about it the right way all the time
I am heading your doing great topic discussions though. What tutorial step did you take to start working in this youtube niche
yo did y’all say ao was weaker for lossing a BYUKUGAN ? dude got ninja tech from amado and byukugan drained him heavily of chakra since it wasn’t his eye its just be easier for boruto to drain his chakra like in the actual fight. plus amado had absorption which we know how op it is. i don’t think it’s crazy for boruto or anything but boruto has experience fighting agaisnt byukugan and it has been pretty usless in battle since like pt1 unless you were like kaguya think ninja tech >
The lowball is crazy
Saying the kage guard aren't top jonin just because Kakashi and guy weren't chosen doesn't mean anything. Danzo chose foundation members to escort him because he has absolute control over the foundation. Three of the other kage guard literally go on to become kage themselves.
Also the Aburame guy is much more reliable and deadlier than Kakashi and Guy.He can simply exterminate someone without much effort or ruckus
These youtubers love using their headcannon over the words of the author lol.
Thank you. Boruto is overestimated
It would be the 2 strongest Dojutsu vs Eachother. I'd say the Akatsuki wins if he doesn't use Momoshiki. Nagato can summon the Gedo statue, Summon animals, Summon the king of hell, snatch your soul out of your body, control gravity, throw chakra rods at you, absorb jutsu, summon 6 bodies to fight for him, shoot missiles at you and trap you in a giant ball of earth. Boruto gets clapped if it's him versus all of them or just pain. The rest of them could win based off of sheer experience and their abilities. Konan could suffocate him in paper, Itachi could drown him in Genjutsu, Kisame could easily fuse with Samehada and blitz Boruto, Sasori could spam his Iron sand, Hidan could perform his ritual and kill Boruto by stabbing himself, Kakuzu has Giant fireballs, Deidara could just send 1000 birds at Boruto and kill him, Tobi could spam Kamui and kill him like he did Konan and Orochimaru could just put a curse mark on him to make him go through pain ( no pun intended ) or just poison him. He loses in a 1v1 and vs all of them unless he uses Momoshiki.
Well said.
@@jibril2473 Thank you 😊
@@TocattaTotentanzMacabrekarma one Boruto alone has better feats get out of here
@@gameuniverse5973 You must have never seen Naruto.
@@TocattaTotentanzMacabre yes I have which means I know karma one Boruto wins
Troy out! Let's go!!!!!!
If each of the Akatsuki had their own Karma brands, then they'd be the most overpowered organization in all of Anime.
idk about "all of anime".
Ok all of anime Hell No they would be most Isekai teams or even the Ginyu Force. Let alone the Z Fighterz
Prime hiruzen>
@@christiansmith1895i would say at best they would be recoome level at most
@@gameuniverse5973 Can't Recoome casually destroy a planet?
I love that it's called the usual
such an insane combo
Headcanon to assume Ao wasn't boosted in ability or combat efficiency by the multitude of scientific ninja weaponry he was enhanced with? I'd say so, because that was added to his body and clearly isn't just to move. That's for fighting. Otherwise he'd not have chakra blades, drones that meld and fire off his chakra in chakra blasts, or chakra canons throughout his body.
I would say at a low-ball, he's equal to his former self. What I'd actually argue, is he's a fair amount stronger than that. We never got to see him do much in Shippuden, in battle. Only a little, so it is hard to judge that saying he's borderline, no stronger at all.
Cap.
Yeah These Arguments Always have headcanon
the argument that he’s still the same strength fits tho, we don’t know Ao’s full power and there’s nothing really proving that the ninja took prothestics amped him only that he might just be at the same unquantifiable level of power he was initially. TLDR it’s not a headcanon rather than there isn’t enough info to prove or disprove.
@@doodoohead5631 figuring a ninja of the quality he was as a Shinobi, would be absolutely worth squat nowadays, should say something. Someone of that calibur isn't even likely on Konohamaru's level in Boruto. We all know what he's capable of, even if he's been packed up more often than not. Why? Because of the power cliffing, that's why. Konohamaru probably wasn't sure of taking on cyborg Ao 1v1. Yet he took on an adult Jugo with likely more chakra and skill than ever in Shippuden.
I would not see Ao of Shippuden, going 1v1 against a CM2 Jugo. Whether the past Jugo or especially the Boruto era Jugo. If Konohamaru can feel confident to take Jugo on as an adult, but not Ao; there's got to be a reason.
We never knew how strong Ao was back in Shippuden. He never had enough showings to prove himself. I stated this, as did you. All we can do is speculate that, but his showing in Boruto has more than anything from Shippuden to show.
All I'ma say, is I believe opposite of you, and I don't care to follow the other side's logic. Too headcanon, in my opinion. Like scientific technology hasn't been able to beef characters way more than before. Even in the Outers, like Garo for example. Inners got special treatment however, and were more compatible with experimentation as we've seen.
@@doodoohead5631 also, to assume Ao as a cyborg was using all of what he had available to him. Or going all out, against primarily some kids, is probably also headcanon. He really didn't get actually serious until towards the end of the fight, when he used the chakra drones he had. Stating he'd planned not to use them; AKA holding back. 🤷🏻♂️
Six can you make a video about kawaki and borutos abilities ? I’m so confused they seem to have like 5 powers I’ve never heard of
Think I heard some where that the Boruto Novel of Boruto the Movie, considers Boruto and Sarada to be around Jonin Level. Different material and all but over all rating their base capabilties being around low to mid level Jonin is pretty good for their age and their actual rank.
But yeah don't really think they can take on even Low End Ataksuki members. Karma Activated Boruto has issues he doesn't really know how to use it on his own or even properly if according to Code. But who knows unless it gives him enough of a power amp to blitz lower ranking memebers.
True Essence Karma Boruto beets every akatuski Member Code in Limiter is Stronger then Delta who can Fight against adult 6 path sage Mode Naruto
@@milesrieger7449 See I get that, but at the same time the point with Code is that in that fight Boruto was getting toyed with by Code cause he was interested in seeing how he performed with his Karma, hence his critique.
And I think True Essance still gives Boruto a lot of raw power. And can absorb Ninjutsu. Though, would it be enough to subdue the more cunning members of the Ataksuki Duos? Like Blitzing Kakuzo and Hidan sure, or Deidra and Sasori if he avoid any cuts from Sasori's posion. Or those particle explosions from Deidra.
But what of the more hax based members, like Itachi's Genjutsu. Or the more technical fighter in Pain with his 6 paths. With no prior knowlege and assuming True Essence Karma Boruto is higher end relative to them they could still pull out a win if they mange any of their win conditons if he's really caught off guard, be it Tsyukyomi and the sword of Totsuka from Itachi or that soul stealing move from Pain or maybe keep him at bay with all mighty push.
Borushiki however could clear all those hurdles because not only he has an insane power increase that's proven, but also a higher battle IQ due to Momoshiki's actual experenice being in the driver's seat. So much he even innovated on Boruto's techinques himself such as the Rasendan.
@@Naruku2121 the gap in RAW Power between true Essence Boruto and Akatuski is top big that's Like comparing them to 6 path sage Mode teenage Naruto. Plus in true Essence Form He gets all the Combat exprience from Momoshiki. Plus Since He's an Ostsuski he can't He affected by Genjutsu. All their Hacks dont Work Werther Rinnegan abilities which where Bring stopped by 6 tails Naruto to Itachi Susanno. He probably treat it Like Jigen did with Sasuke Susanno sinse it's a weaker Version. Nothing they throw at him Works. And the phyiscal gap is Just to big to be overcome by akatuski.
The statements in the Narutoverse are rarely consistent and simply just a lazy way to present someone's strength
Example:Tsunade is only relevant because she's mentioned as one of the legendary sannin but as an individual fighter she never lived up to expectations Kishimoto wrote for her
I fuck with ya’ll I get it man content is content n it’s views I just can’t wait til ya cover Naruto prequel spinoffs if they do make em
People always say “using Naruto’s power” bro naruto spammed kurama the whole series
Almost at 70k👀👀
Yeah this sounds about right. The like only arguments in Borutos favor are basically if you try to use Momo chakra pills to crazy upscale Boruto above the 8 tails. Like classic 6 lol.
Karma one alone has better feats
Boruto just isn't given a reason to train until now with the new chapter where he's running away and has to scale himself up
looks like i came early
that's what she said.
Taking back shots from prime hiruzen be like
@@6paths988 fax
Finally, a UA-camr with a good sponsor
Boruto would actually wipe out the Akastiuki
I think the more level and interesting debate would be Boruto vs The Sound Four. They, and I mean this loosely, are kinda like the Naruto Part 1 version of the Akatsuki as far as a gang of villains goes. It's also more fair because this is essentially Boruto Part 1, and it's like kids v kids, not a kid v adult super villains
Borushiki stomps the sound four
@@maalikserebryakov yeah, probably. but it'd at least be closer that boruto v the akatsuki lol
@@heretustay Borushiki stomps the akatski also
Why are u scaling pre Kawaki arc Boruto tho?? Should have scaled TE Boruto
Karma one Boruto beats the Akatsuki you don't need te Boruto
Because they don't want boruto winning
i always felt that people overrate boruto’s power a lot and this video makes me feel safe in believing that
Six you were the only one scaling Boruto so high. You literally made a video of “New Team 7 vs Old Team 7” scaling Boruto without Karma above Killer Bee😂
Now your saying WE are the ones overrating him ok buddy.
Not to mention he just completely ignored boruto scaling to current kawaki and pre limiters removed code, not only that but there’s the boro fight as well where he was popping off, six can’t really ever seem to have a consistent scale for characters
He is a human being, his opinions can change.
@@collinleivas9605 his opinions literally change every videos, which means he’s not a very concrete/reliable scaler like he pretends to be
@@collinleivas9605 Hell nah I’m not hearing that. This information has been out for years ain’t nothing changed. He really disagreed with the community who had been saying Boruto is not that strong a few years ago and now he’s switching up saying we’re overrating him. If anything it makes his scaling video not credible at all.
@@isaiascaines3299 I feel like 99% of UA-cam scalers aren’t reliable
So tempted to reinstall cord for that debating tourney😭
Maybe I missed something in the video but why are we only using Boruto pre learning to control Karma? I feel like that definitely makes the difference
What I was thinking he’s gotten a ton stronger then this video portrays
@@overflow4221exactly idek why they’re saying all this💀 as if the akatsuki members are above mhs-ftl.
Because they didn't want boruto to win the matchup which is why they used pre kara arc boruto
We need a part 2!!!!
Another point to make about Borushiki is the fact that he might speed blitz Obito before he can even think to use Kamui. Minato was able to do this after slamming his Rasengan into Obito, he was sitting on the tree and recovering and Minato stabbed him and released the Nine Tails and Obito didn't have time to react and use Kamui. So Borushiki might actually just kill him because he's so fast, Obito wouldn't be able to react to him lol
You’re comparing a 14 year old Obito to adult Obito?
@@phantomzero1982 No I'm saying that based off of the fact that we've seen Obito can get speed blitzed so hard that his brain can't think to use Kamui fast enough to use it, then that means that regardless of how strong, fast, or age, as long as the opponent is fast enough, the same situation can be replicated.
@@phantomzero1982 honestly if boruto was on a mission to slaughter the akatsuki, he could. The only people I consider relevant to the fight is itachi, pain, obito. But the fact that boruto could easily smack around code who has a superior version of FTG (a lot more versatile and seems to be no limit to how many times he can spam it) itachi just isn't there in speed neither is pain. I mean I refuse to believe sick itachi can handle that speed. Basically that leaves obito and I think boruto will catch obito off guard by following him into his dimension and obito will be off guard getting killed. Now if its just boruto without any reason to fight akatsuki boruto will have to retreat.
I agree with your ultimate conclusion, but some of the arguments here are just bad. Even still, I loved the video and I love the discord idea
Man the Boruto low ball is peak, these guys are having hard time digesting the fact that he soloes Akatsuki
Doesn’t get past prime hiruzen tho
Karma one Boruto i can argue would mutilated them
Borushiki will be overwhelmed because the Akatsuki aren’t like normal ninjas from the Boruto era. They have hax abilities just like him that can bypass strength differences. Itachi’s deadly genjutsu, and Tsukuyomi. Nagato’ s almighty push, pull, and ability to absorb chakra. Sasori’ s deadly poisons that will kill if the oponnent does not have poison immunity. Deidara’ s ultimate explosion techniques that disentegrate foes. Obito’ s space time ninjutsu ( space time jutsu is no joke, as seen with code).
this is such a weird matchup basically the same as asking if part one Naruto could take on any akatsuki duo alone. When no character in the series has till like the war arc
Boroshiki vs Akatsuki interesting fight
- I think the Akatsuki will use their intellect, knowledge and strategies to outsmart Boroshiki, because i think Boruto is still a long way to go for hin to surpass the Akatsuki
How if he just blitz them before they can even react plus borushki is just momoshiki in boruto’s body and trying to argue Momoshiki losing to a shippuden character is silly 💀
@@blueprinceyt4620 prime hiruzen blitz all of them
@@blueprinceyt4620 I don't know what attack can Boroshiki do againts Obito perhaps vanishing Rasengan or Rasendan.
Boroshiki can absorb ninjutsu but can't shoot it back that's the disadvantage of Boroshiki
@@blueprinceyt4620 Yes it's possible for Boroshiki to blitz some of the Akatsuki but not all
@@ultragaming1650borushiki made sealed code s h i t himself the guy who was confident he can take current Naruto and Sasuke base Naruto at fifty percent alone scales over the Akatsuki by keeping up with FUSED momoshiki
This is like putting land of waves part 1 naruto against the Akatsuki. Something more interesting is kid Kakashi vs Boruto. I hope after the time skip Boruto shows more of this “op karma 1000 years of fighting” amp.
I do agree that people (new fans that are just coming in from Boruto) are stupid and don’t realize how the power scaling works in Boruto/ Naruto. I’m guessing the intention of this video is to start scaling Boruto and the first gauntlet every character goes up against in the naruto scaling verse is the Akatsuki.
@@terafang9949 karma one wins anyways
Boruto dog walks kid kakashi with sharingan or without . Doesn’t even need karma . Base boruto can confirmed dodge/react to chidori ( ex: boruto team 7 vs boro) which is kid kakashi ace jutsu
It's only the people that refuse to watch/read Boruto that debate the Akatsuki wins.
Understandably so many people
Gets one tapped by prime hiruzen tho
Mane nobody wanna read that shit 😂
Obito my boi but he not carrying the Akatsuki to a win here
My man about to have a skippy vs jif debate
Boruto being low-mid jonin level in base makes the most sense to me
High jonin in base Ao was mid jonin by even being a bodyguard to the mizukage then he got amps that said he was stronger high jonin
@@gameuniverse5973 I would say high Jonin only if he had a few more battles under his belt that’s his only short coming
Only facts from six
Boruto slams the akatsuki without borushiki. The fastest akatsuki member is ftl while base boruto reacted to fused momoshiki and kawaki’s black rods. If we count juubito he has planetary ap. But it doesn’t matter since Boruto can just absorb all chakra except physical energy like codes clawmarks. Boruto also didn’t use the Jougan in the manga he was only in base
Yeah it's stupid the Akatsuki get smoked.....Daemon smokes them easily it's not even funny.
Daemon is catching Chakra rods with his teeth are y'all stupid bruh?😭 Sauske with his sharingan can't keep up with it.
Which BARYON Mode Naruto was the only other to catch the rods.
How does base Boruto counter Kamui? How does he even notice Deidera C0? Lmao hell how does he counter pain
Facts
@@tymon39 he absorbs it lmao he absorbed kawaki's daikokuten dimensional seal witch is just a portal shot out in a beam from his eye that traps u in a timeless dimension
@@Mentallyinasne009 absorbs what exactly? There’s nothing to absorb lmaooo you can’t absorb Kamui buddy and rinnegan absorption already cancels out his absorption
Surprised troy ain't locked up💀
y'all just ignore karma true essence boruto!?
What ppl seem to forget is that akatsuki is always going up against plotarmor... And compete with it.. look at Azuma the famous leaf shinobi how long he last against Hidan when his plotarmor runned out
Boruto literally rip the plot armor out of Sasuke who weasel his way through Shippuden
@@gameuniverse5973 lol yeah. Boruto went, know what? This armor is MINE!
@@kim-jaranjelstrup52 he snatched Sasuke's plot armor like "he" snatched his eye haha
@@silverhetch3383 guess he did not see that comming.....ha......ha.....ha....ehh...
Hidan is pretty dangerous, especially for up close fighters, and if you don't know how his abilities work. He just happened to be a really bad match-up for Azuma.
If it was borushiki, this would be a completely different story
bro would lose to the Itachi imposter from the Kazekage Rescue arc💀
Both prime hiruzen victims
Damn both are karma one boruto victims
Was this video in the works a while ago? Because at this point boruto can use the karma seal on his own and even can use it very well while at that
Boruto powerscaling is shitty af. 32 year old Gaara scales higher than Jubidara and these kids scale higher than most of the war arc shinobi.
Prime hiruzen>all🫵😹
Mhhhhhh yeah adult Gaara is broken
@@6paths988 Prime hiruzen dies to Jigen
@@meandtheboysmeandtheboys7095 🧢
I'm glad we're still respecting Naruto's power, People been talking down on my man since he lost Kurama but he was od
Boruto is such a bad, poorly written, and uninspired series that it brings a tear to my eye knowing some of the absolute goats from naruto would get clapped by him even if, on paper, they would. Boruto is just not canon in my eyes and never will be.
Cope💀
Prime hiruzen>all of anime
@@6paths988 Man's lost to Orochimaru lol
Literally a bad fan fiction level Mary Sue. "Hey guys my character mastered 3 chakra natures before leaving the academy and solos all of the past series all at once. Isn't he so cool?"
I'm surprised he didn't also master sage mode, rasenshurhiken, and flying Raijin before he finished potty training.
@@AyoCoffeeSama prime hiruzen>old hiruzen bozo 🤷♂️
Troy used his one phone call to collab with Six. He da GOAT fr fr
I think it's also worth mentioning that for the Ao fight, konohamaru is there..... and like... still lol
The debate idea sounds amazing and pretty well thought out, I really hope it works out
BRO GOTTA DEBATE POOL LMAO THATS LIVE ASF
He’s literally a god my dude