"The Way of the Warrior: Aikido and Kendo, The Sporting Way" (Entire Video)
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2011
- Source - BBC News - © [1983] BBC
3 of the 8 part series BBC Documentary "The Way of the Warrior" (Michael Croucher & Dr. Howard Reid, 1983).
Full Credits: www.imdb.com/title/tt1736218/f...
Original Air Date-25 May 1983 - Розваги
I have studied 4 martial arts in my 65 yrs on this earth and get sick of people comparing and slagging off different arts. It's about the man, not the art! They all have good and bad aspects but individual effort that leads to skill is what it's all about. A good boxer, for instance, would easily beat an average oriental artist
"A good boxer, for instance, would easily beat an average oriental artist" strange that you fall into the same trap you first complain about. Why comparing a "good boxer" (what is that? A professional?) with oriental (you meant Asian, right?) artist?
Who cares? And there is no amateur boxer who can beat me.
Sorry. He is so quick in a joint lock, which he has no clue about how to get out, he can only beat me by utter luck.
I have a translation of the book and I can really recommend it. Nothing about techniques, but about personal experiences of uchideshi - Japanese as well as Westerners, (I remember Robert Nadeau an Terry Dobson right now). Also males and females. Its a very personal view of Osensei and it really shows the way he was thinking about life, the universe, and everything. It also clarifies some of the stories you could read at John Stevens Ueshiba biography "Abundant peace".
Excelente vídeo!!
i love this sports
i'm still 20 years young and willing to learn that kind of martial arts becouse it is simply but effective way of fighting for goodness
21:49 another wrong idea here.. Aikido isn't always defensive. Many techniques demand agression for them to work. I mean the one doing the technique has to advance first. In my style of aikido we start many techniques from an attack. Attacking first is also often a good self defence action, which is the point in this way of training.
you can actually see in the knife drill they do in this video. The defender has to be the agressor in order to respond to an opponent with a knife. You can't just respond to the attack, as the attacker with the knife is always faster.
I am sorry to disagree about the aspect of "sport" but O'Sensei was clear in his opposition to competition. This is well documented. I highly recommend the book "Remembering O'Sensei" which is a compilation of his Uchi Deshi's recollections of their lives with him.
Why was he opposed to competition, what was his reasoning?
There are two reasons that I am aware of. The first in his own words was that competitions created winners and losers and therefore bad feeling which was not in keeping with the development of a benevolent spirit.
The larger I think reason in terms of a martial art was that competitions are by nature not reality, there are rules. Which do not exist in the real world.
Rules of training are different, because it is a learning environment and one to work on all sorts of minutia of how you engage with your opponent/partner.
luv aikido
Do you know the name of the Store featured and described as "well known for British martial artists?
Plenty of mistakes: Aikido did not remove "dangerous techniques". It is actually the only Jujutsu variation that focuses on dangerous techniques but practices them in a safe way. So around 23:00 the claim that the defender can use any technique he wants: is plain wrong. 90% of all Aikido techniques are forbidden to be used in sparring. That is why you basically see always the same technique(s) in this movie when they do sparring.
buddy catch wrestlers use far more deadly and brutal techniques in sparring and competition all the time, everything you are saying is nonsense
O-Sensei would not be too happy to hear Aikido referred to as a sport
speaking for a dead man?
@@TheClarity101 a well documented dead man
Had this episode only been about Naginata and Kendo it would have been brilliant.
Would love to know what happened to Les after this and if he is still training.
But that's exactly what Post War Aikido became, along with other fighting arts. However Tomiki is purely s Sport where as Aiki Kai & especially styles like Yoshinkan have remained more closely related to their traditional roots.
Tomiki/Shodokan Aikido is not only a sport, far from it. It ticks so many boxes. It has equal emphasis on developing kata alongside sporting randori using one to complement the other. The system also has many traditional (koryu) techniques Goshin (self-defence) that are not included in the sporting sections withing the system because of safety. It is a traditional Japanese martial art with a 'sporting' element. Kata is a techniques most basic form, randori has been said is like painting the eye of a dragon, it brings the whole thing alive.
7:11 lol, eventhough he is supposed to be the "master" of the art he does all in the wrong order.. First, YOU HAVE to control the arm, holding the knife, you can't rely on some extreme accuracy demanding technique of "paralysing" the arm. Second, "wrist break", would not also propably work in a stressful situation, the third, dislocating technique also demands terrific strenght to apply. Krav Maga for example has much more practical solutions to this.
Did anyone catch the name of the British guy who died in 1982? Something like 'Jim Elkin'? I looked up that name but couldn't find anything about him, so I guess I must be misshearing it.
I was fortunate to train for a couple of years with JIm Elkin while I was at Royal Holloway College in 1978/9, he was a true gentle-man with a great sense of humour and many interesting stories, he was the first Chairman of the Martial Arts Commission (the first martial arts governing body in the UK covering all arts) it was sad to hear that he died before the Way of the Warrior aired.
The female Aikidoka is probably one of the best I have seen. Does anyone know who she was?
Sean, why only seven of eight parts uploaded?
Aikido is a systemic refinement of defensive techniques from Aiki-Jujutsu ???
Yes. Hence the name. However there are a few dozen Aikijujutsu styles predating Aikido (partly by centuries).
Do you mean "Remembering O'Sensei" by Susan Perry?
Yes its a book which collects personal short comments and stories of students of O-Sensei and I can really recommend it.
If you mean the biography "abundant peace" its okay, but it does not show the personality of him, but rather showing a picture of O-Sensei as a kind of superhuman. It is good to read and have some interesting informations, but it is not very personal.
A Naginata has nothing to do with a western halberd. It is a common mistranslation or misconception. The western equivalent is a glaive. A halberd is basically a spear with an extra spear tip to one side and an extra *axe* to the other.
Glaive:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaive
Halberd:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halberd
I wonder what that Scottish fellow is up to now.
Leave it to a gym teacher to totally screw up aikido by turning it into a competitive system. "Duh...whadda he say, Coach?!"
"I said extra breakfalls for being cheeky"
Its really insane watching martial arts things pre 1993, when the UFC first aired. Now most people understand that this is all basically choreographed stuff and a real fight is a lot more brutal, ugly, disgusting, hard to watch.
But then again, this was filmed when Mike Tyson was turning guys into vegetables in 60 seconds or less, so I guess not everyone thought that this was real.
Are you actually blind? Tomiki aikido is seen sparring and having competetive bouts throughout this video, much like judo, sambo and BJJ does. Kendo also spars and competes. And you are wrong in that there has always been brutal full contact striking/grappling hybrid tournaments like vale tudo and combat wrestling as well as nippon kenpo and versions of kyokushin that retain grappling, not to mention combat sambo. If tomiki aikido is choreographed than so is judo, which is obviously not true, clean your glasses.
Aikido, insofar as the Founder's intent, has nothing to do with sport, pre-war or post-war. To be exact, it is his post war art that is really Aikido, before that it was his evolving style of Aiki-jitsu. In any case it is a modern form of Budo, a spiritual discipline through martial application. Call it misogi, self polishing, whatever but a competitive sport based on a point system it is not.
If O Sensei is not even mentioned in a video about Aikido than that video is not about Aikido.
Do I need to mention Christopher Columbus to talk about America?
kinda WRONG approach to aikido in my opinion. Most of the aikido practiced around the world are classical aikido, not sports aikido. Yet this documentary gives an impression that sport aikido is the final form of aikido, and some , weird, clubs still practice traditional aikido. This is completely false, as aikikai is the greatest organization around the World, not tomiki aikido. And it is classical aikido.
Just farted
Eh, it doesn't look as impressive as they try to wank it up to be. When that old man was pulling that younger guy over his shoulder, it made me wonder what would happen if the younger guy just started punching him right in the ribs, considering he had the perfect chance and the other hand was free and all.
+Robert Miles tomiki aikido doesn;t work like that when you are in a competition it;s classed as a foul if you did and you would have a point deducted it's about defending against the tanto. using various techniques ?
Micky Morton
Oh, i c then. A competition. That would explain a lot. But it would be very practical to do a rib punch if it weren't a competition.
atemi waza strikes ?
Micky Morton
idk wat that is
His wrist would be broken -which is pretty distracting, and with his wrist and arm grasped like that he could be twisted around like a marionette if he still tried to punch with his free arm
No not really actually...you don't seem to understand what sports really are. You get up, you meet people, you practice, you learn, you have fun. You are being negative and now so am I. You perturbed the environment. I'm angry. Stop being such a rookie...use your intuition.
True aikido is not as pretty as Hollywood makes it, no martial art is! I had a Japanese instructor years ago who told me that Asians tend to fight in a ritualized manner, while Westerners, particularly, Americans, are brawlers! The martial arts must be tailored as such!
Aikido isn't a sport; it's a LARPing event, everyone knows this!
Aikido the way of fake martial arts. I think Yoga is more dangrous
Aikido is not a sport.
sporting way of shodokan / tomiki aikido is ?
FraRu b not all aikido systems are the same and follow their own training methods much like how aikido made changes to aikijutsu
Tomiki is