The Norse Gods Not Real?
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Are the norse gods symbolic? Do the deities represent things in nature, or own bodies, natural phenomena and intangible things? This video goes over this question and the sources on other mythologies throughout history.
Went to use my riding mower and trailer to haul dirt but the mower wouldn't start. I started to dig the new area for herb beds; moving dirt away shovel by shovel. I went to toss dirt and BOOM, I found an antler shed next to the new herb area. I was in awe this 'sign' of fertility was shown/given to me at my feet. I have NEVER found an antler shed on my property and certainly never thought one would be found that close to the house. Then after, while putting tools away, the mower started instantly. If I had used the trailer I would have never found that shed; that sign of fertility. The gods are there. Recognize them as gods, be reciprocal with them, and they will speak to you and guide you.
I like to say that the gods work in coincidences, it is up to us to recognize and be grateful for them.
Excellent !!!
These are the exact kind of experiences I have with the gods. Thanks for sharing it's so hard to put these things into words.
I love when we get a blessing for not giving up when the easy way gets blocked
Hail!
This video really should be a "step one" for those finding their way into Germanic paganism. While the scholarly research is a crucial and necessary part of the overall understanding of these old ways, many scholars are dismissive and smug in their ivory tower perspective of them ( for example, Jackson Crawford, who has many great works, once disdainfully referred to "gurus" as illegitimate when understanding runic lore ). If one studies the old ways, without embracing animism, then regardless of your formal education, you will not be able to truly understand Germanic paganism nor relate to the Gods. Thanks for yet another enlightening video.
@Blanc Neige I agree, although I understand that there is a necessary component as to how the quality of research is dependent upon peer reviewed and scholarly sources ( an agreed standard for scholars ), they often disregard personal gnosis or even speculation by those not belonging to their respective ivory towers. For those of us who have had recent and direct experiences with many manifestations of the old ways, we know that this is a living and breathing practice, one that is ongoing and one that cannot be fully understood from the writings in dusty tomes. I came to Germanic paganism blind, looking for explanations to my personal experiences, not as a larper or follower of a fad. I have found startling explanations as to my experiences only through the lenses of the old ways of my ancestors, and no where else. Truly a lifelong journey that will require the left brained study of written knowledge, coupled with the right brained experiences of the mystic, and I enjoy it all.
Yes I get what you mean about Crawford, he has a lot of great information but he reads it like it were to be taken at face value like reading game of thrones. He skips over all the depth and meanings behind the stories, the very reasons that the stories had been passed down through generations with great care, as spiritual things should be. The stories were the easiest way to include/intrest everyone young and old though the deeper meanings were better understood by the wise teachers and elders. This has been a issue for as long as non pagans have been the "authorities" and writers on the subject, someone who has been raised christian still practicing or not are going to miss a lot as well as project their own beliefs when trying to understand the subject or translate something. This is very hard to avoid, but it has in a few cases managed to do some hidden good; like when Snorri inserts lies into his writings to change and christianize Norse mythology, but he missed some important symbolism because his christian beliefs stopped him from seeing what was right in front of him. Thus leaving us bread crumbs to follow, a bit of a silver lining after what was done. We have a lot of work ahead of us, removing all the lies, mistranslations, finding the scattered pieces of wisdom that are still hiding within old family stories and local tales, and hopefully new scientific discoveries, then making sense of it all. I wish we didn't have all these new age crazies running around making insane claims that make us all look nuts when those are the people who are seen and heard the most by the general public.
I have to admit that I really cannot stand seeing so many self proclaimed "pagans" that want to have a bible of paganism, so someone is telling them what to do and not do, what and how to think, and how to get on their knees and pray to their new God Odin...😑 It's like they are just christians that replace their god with Odin and think that everyone goes to Valhalla when they die, and they will sit by their god and feast until the end times... These and the wicca turds are the types that have driven me to be a lone pagan, that super larpy and ignorant crap drives me nuts (rather it makes me realize how nuts that they are, and I should back away slowly.. 😆).
@@whispersinthedark88 well said, and I especially appreciate the notion that pagans should be the authorities on paganism, even though it might require serious pagans infiltrating academia.
@@torstenscott7571 I'm good with some good old infiltration of the system, we may as well fix some of the other issues when we get there.
@@whispersinthedark88 absolutely.
It is said that 'the druids' could influence weather. They claimed that none (including themselves) could bend nature, only that they knew the language to 'ask nicely'. Just a tale, not from a verified source that I know of.
Not sure if this a sign of being a druid but when the barometric pressure associated with changing weather patterns. I can feel the physical pains associated with changing weather patterns. Perhaps it is nothing, perhaps it is?
@@The1yadayada My grandma (paternal) would get crazy joint pains when the pressure would change, and it happens to me to some extent. My mothers side of the family are also practiced "willow witchers".
@@The1yadayada Weather pressure changes can trigger arthritis in many people, especially as one gets older. From my experience it's the most noticeable before big storms in the warmer months, which I guess could come in handy back before we could use modern technology to warn us of potentially dangerous storms.
It's an interesting thought that possibly elders with bad cases of this could have found a useful place in their community as they could sense these storm fronts before others could, this could have easily been interpreted as a sort of gift from or connection to weather related sprits and gods.
Brings to mind the Solomonari
Well when it comes to pagan gods, I have an ancestor from the 1800s and her name was Parthenia. I found out about numerology and looked up her name and it came to be 711, which also is my birthdate. Also, I was born on Thursday. So for creepy stuff, that is just my heritage.
Back in Ancient Khem (Egypt), the peoples didn't refer to their GODS and GODDESSES, as GODS and GODDESSES, they referred to them as 'the NETERU' (collectively), and as a 'NETER' (singularly), the definition of which being 'FORCE/S OF NATURE'. This is also the TRUE etymological root (despite being at odds with the official Latin version of NURTURE that is given), of the English word NATURE. ... The same rule/principle applies to ANY/ALL GODS from within any Ancient Animist Paganism from anywhere in the world. ... The GODS and GODDESSES of ALL/ANY Paganisms ARE anthropomorphised representations of the FORCES OF NATURE. ... Great video you made here. A great UA-cam channel you have created.
Very interesting! Thank you for that!
Exactly right. I always say that the biggest mistake the Bible ever made was personify God when it's clearly the creative force of the universe.
The big bang
@@janmulcahy1458... the Big bang is just a theory, remember. ... It hasn't been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
@@janmulcahy1458 ... also, everything Biblical, is just a massive very well constructed (but not totally accurate), plagiarism, of teachings from out of Ancient Khem (Egypt), and Ancient Summeria = FACT!
Beautifully said. I'm so excited you are working on a book yourself because you have an amazing attention to detail and are able to speak from just the facts. I'm ordering the Prose Edda from your website this weekend. I'm really looking forward to it. Things are finally starting to make sense and come together.
Lots of information. Thanks for the explanations which often are convoluted but there's always clarity in yours.
Excellent sources and discussion! Thank you for the perspective.
Looking forward to your book. Keep up the good work!
Best video you have done from my point of understanding. Researched and well presented. Thank you so much for your considerable effort to enable my learning of this massive subject.
I want to thank you for your knowledge and perspective on Norse mythology and the religion. You’ve proven to me to be the best source for information as I’ve gone through this calling to learn everything about the Norse pagan culture. I have old Germanic heritage and want to know my bloods history which you’ve taught me was similar to the Norse. You go above and beyond for us and I appreciate it. You got yourself a loyal follower here.
Brilliant explanation and integrated source material.
Recently found your channel and love the content. I have always been intrigued with Viking history and become more so when I got to live in Norway for almost a year while in the Marine Corps. Was stationed at Vaernes Air Station outside of Trondheim. I fell in love with everything in the country. My dream is to one day move back. It’s calling to me . Keep up the good work with the content dude it is all excellent stuff. I’ll def be having some questions on future videos! Thank you brother .
-Jase
Dont bother coming back, give it 50-100 years and threr wont be anything about Norway that has anything to do with the native population.
We are only 30 years behind Sweden when it comes to having multiculturalism continually forced on us by our political and cultural Elites.
They hate themselvs and hate their own kith and kin and country, a country that was given to us by our forebearers.
And if you think about disagreeing they will brand you a most vile and ugly person. They will brand you a racist for wanting a country for our own people and will work both in private and in public to alienate you from society. For any who disagree or who is critical of their agenda is shut down and ostracised.
After all, acording to these same people, Norway, no, all of europe has allways been "multicultural" and so to speak it, is to speak the most vile of evils according to them.
I just came across your channel yesterday. I love history and I've been really getting into learning about the Vikings after watching Vikings. It's so interesting and I love watching you!
This channel is really badass. All the videos are informative and based on facts and not TV
@@stansdad1 I love it... very interesting.
Another video on point. I've been accused of Atheism many times for making similar points.
I feel like the Christian Overculture sets the premise of "Faith Olympics". Basically if you don't believe in your religion as literal and inerrant as possible there's a No True Scotsman fallacy directed at you.
Personally. I think we should foster discussion and questions over dogma and inerrancy.
Thank you for your videos and content. I am still learning more about my ancestry and my faith of Norse Paganism. Thank you so much sir! ❤️
“Animism is the default mode of the human mind”-John Lamb Lash, October 2021
Incredibly interesting, thank you! 👏👏👏
I like it how the more I investigate about the old gods and ways it kind of feels logical. Like is an instinct deep within. Great video 👍
Great video, this video helps so much, your genius.
Excellent video! Thank you!
Would like it if you could do a video on the nine noble vitures, your views and and thoughts on them, and how to live by them in these strange days
Great video, thank you.
Really like the way you explain
Thanks again, good info!
Amazed at your depth of knowledge on this. Is great! Thanks! Marsha Baker here not my son lol. Oh also, I "Joined" your page but it's me Marsha Baker not my son MrSsur1973, lol. I use his chromebook right now till I get my comp back so I may have to come back later and Re-join under my actual name.
Great video. Thanks.
Great video brother
You are absolutely right sir about the spirits of the gods manifesting in statues. What the ancient people believed was the spirits would use the eyes of status to see, would use the right hand to take offerings and the left hand to bless or grant wishes and the legs to stand. When Islamic invaders attacked these temples they would destroy the faces of those statues, break their hands and legs to stop people from worshiping these deities.
I wonder if that's why Roman Justice is blindfolded...
@@demoncore5342 Yes, probably.
unfortunately i had to leave the Facebook group, because there were to many purists trolling comments, trying to platform "Germanic" as a umbrella racist term, so many negative dudes in there, Even though some of the brothers that were trying to develop good intensions, its sad that the other side of the coin there were alot of disappointing few that wanted to find any reason to use the "gods/spirits" misappropriately to fit a narrative.
I'm Miscegeneous, the split second that one of the trolls found out my background two people trolled me after I defended another Mixed race person that was also a ancestral veneration pagan, who wanted to learn and experience our Nordic roots, that the trollers took as a ploy to get us to leave the group,
Your a good person, some of us who like watching your channel are most likely good intended minded people, but when there are balanced scale what would anyone reading do, if they had to encounter people who do not want safe space for everyone, with purist agenda.
I love your channel.
In carl jungs essay on wotan. He said somthing to the effect of archetypes being like a dried riverbed within the collective unconscious. Though the riverbed may be empty of water. The shape of the river remains. Once a dam breaks. Or if it starts to rain. The river will flow again.
Thank you for the video
the Japanese see old trees, or anything older than 100 years, as a "kami", or the home of a "kami", a spirit... many ancient trees in Japan are decorated with paper streamers on certain days of the year. Other cultures have the same view about their surroundings. I respect my land wights and the house wights, they have been here before me, and I try to keep them on my good side.
Sources?
Hail, good health to you. Excellent, truly fundamental to following a Northern path into understanding. I would be very interested in contacting you, however there is no pathway for that here. I have been following a Northern path for quite a few years and would greatly enjoy discussing some modern particulars with you. I am sure many demands on your time are standing at your threshold. I hope you can grant me an avenue for discourse. Thank you for your content here. Skal!
Great information
REaklly intresting video, I have thought threw this topic many times.
Thank you for explaining it right
Hi there I love listening to you I love the channel which is full of information real information I only listen to you and mr. Jackson and as much as I hate and despised Facebook but of course now I have no choice if I wanted to join the group I have to set up the account as most of us we used to be Christians so was I but I come from Poland which is still a very Christian country but I denounced it long time ago of course my mother does not really appreciate that but that's where we come from Slavic people have pretty much the same believes in the same Gods as Norse as I'm trying to get my genetic testing done to find out either I come from Swedish or Russ bloodline I will do anything and everything in my power to find out who I truly am but I started already looking and do everything that can bring me to my true roots and I started learning all I can as well as reading all the sagas I have to say that when it comes to information and true information you are the only one that gives older resources and all the books or anyting. It's actually real not fake or made up like most of the idiots on a UA-cam that think they know but they have no f****** clue so keep up the good work great work actually and I think I'm one of the first ones that are actually watching new latest upload because it just came in I want notification and I watch every single thing I am a woman and I'm definitely looking into getting into practice of our true magic especially herbal one stones and anyting I can put my hands on and I was actually kind of cracking up smile when you were saying that you looking for women that I would get into Old practices I'm into it 100% so you leave me no choice but to set up a Facebook account so I can join your group don't ever give up what you're doing because I as well as many others depend on you I was born and raised in Poland got my education there came to Canada and became an industrial electrician now that I'm on disability after many surgeries I have lots of time on my hands and I am practicing so I'm hoping that I'm going to be able to connect with you through the Facebook group sending blessings your way and I just wanted to say. I am also starting to learn Old Norse language language of our ancestors but I'm learning through mr. Jackson
I live in Windsor Ontario and I don't know if you know anyone and this area but I would greatly appreciate if you do please let me know so I can connect with others
I personally believe the Norse gods represent many aspects of reality. I find possible that the Æsir may represent human virtues (Þórr-Strength, Týr-Justice, Frigg-Secrecy, Óðinn-Wisdom/Frenzy) and the Vanir may represent nature (Yngvi Freyr-Fertility, Njórðr-Sea/Wind, Freya-Magic in general). It's also very interesting how they give human virtues to natural aspects and viceversa (Freyr-Masculinity, Þórr-Thunder ecc.).I think this interpretation might be interesting to think about.
I always know deep inside that gods where not as told but natural forces that make our life possible here and to hear you talk about it make me feel good !
That's not what our primary sources say
Where did you get that Thor/hammer pendant from? Looks really cool.
I wouldn't say that the ancient cultures viewed the gods as symbolic only, however it's better to understand that the ancient cultures had different ideas and definitions than we do today of what gods actually are. Many people now a days are/were christian at some point so most of us have the definition what christianity imposes of what a god is.
No civilization or society was atheist. That's absolute nonsense to say too.We can see everything from temples to hymns to sacrifices and more pointing to theism in this case polytheism
Great watch
I too have felt that the gods are just forces in nature its why I came into this❤🤙
I wouldn't say our ancestors
' believed ' in the Gods............
our ancestors KNEW the Gods....... our ancestors ARE GODS.
WE are descendants of Gods, Giants, Supernatural beings ~
✌👍great vídeo 🖑
Where can I learn about Norse magic/ spells sorcery please
have you finished your book? i would love to read it
Its weird how in norse beliefs and book of enoch they both talk about giants and a flood they just explain it in different ways
i hate when i find christians that recycle themselves as pagans, and keep being christian just worshiping different names. and it's worse when people take basically any event in their day as a "sign" from a god. i know it's hard to be starving for spirituality and reassurance, i have been there too, but the cringe is always strong
😆 I feel you. I have made this same complaint countless times, though it seems to be getting worse with the new found popularity of "paganism" over the last few years. People like that are the reason why I stopped telling people that I'm pagan, it's just the way I have been since my earliest memories, it's a part of me and doesn't require me informing everyone. Telling people that you don't know well can end up quite annoying in several ways, though every once in awhile someone may surprise you.
Imagine caring so much about what other people choose to believe in. U do realize that people regardless of their religion take everything as a sign of their god/gods, just look trough these comments here.
@@julianfussenich9262 i don't care WHAT people decide to believe in. i care about coherence and how people shift from one way to another like seaweed in the sea
@@regnbuetorsk may sound weird but you can believe in multiple concepts at the same time
Tiw/Tyr was related to Polaris in the Anglo-Saxon rune poem, it's perfectly acceptable to believe the Gods are guiding or watchful spirits present in everything rather than physical beings
Its explaining nature in a way thats more imminent so humans can share a relationship with them. That's any pre abhermatic culture. But now ppl think a god is the exact thing as the one from the 3 big relgions
Hi. Can you post a video about the goddess Rán?
You know those Ah-HA! moments when the cartoon light bulb comes on over your head? I had one of those watching this video.
Thank you for that.
I have Norwegian ancestors so I like your videos.
If you could get Varg on your channel it would be the greatest video on paganism ever. You and Varg are my favorite sources of info on the myths.
Maybe one day!
Varg is always a strange person to mention. He does have a lot of great views that many don't usually discuss, but he has some Folkish tendencies. At least that's how it seems.
What is the best case for Animism and Paganism over Materialism and Atheism?
What is your opinion on John Lamb Lash?
Essentially, we humans are the director/art designer/producer of the show.....the gods are the actors that we dress up and they play the role in a way we can connect with them.
I screenshoted your comment and I'll use your explanation everytime someone doesn't get what I'm trying to say
who else does a little shuffling when the intro drops
Can you talk more of Swedish vikings?
Have you studied into the Annunaki and the connection of them with Norse tribes and gods? Ancient Alien Archive has a good video on it and it's believed that the annunaki were of lighter skin with red hair and blue or green eyes
lets go brandon
Do a video on the Ultima Thule
But how much of the preserved myth is nothing more than bedtime stories? Would not harm to look at it in that way, if something doesn't fit, don't make it fit.
What do you think about STJ's take on this? Like on his Video "Pagan Mythology and Rites: What do they mean?"
I was studying kmt/egypt and the professor I was studying under taught me that the gods weren't beings, but anthropomorphizations of nature. Geb is Earth, Shu is the wind, and Nut is the sky. It was after the christian era did they turned these principles of nature into deitiest beings
"We don't have any gurus in the world today."
That would explain so much of the tripe I've found on UA-cam. I've watched 20-30 videos of Sadhaguru, who so many people practically worship, and the man is a charlatan who says literally _nothing_ . He's relaxing to listen to and charismatic and does nothing but change topic every 2 1/2 sentences, just as you think he's _about_ to actually impart some wisdom.
There must be a thousand pop-gurus on YT who are just doing spirit-man cosplay.
Since you actually speak Norwegian, how do you feel about Jackson Crawford's work in regards to linguistic interpretation?
You do realize that the original sagas, and writings were not written in Norwegian but in Old Norse, Latin, and the other languages used depending on the time and where said writer was from.
@@whispersinthedark88 yes I do. I'm under the assumption that old Norse and Norwegian are similar. This isn't the case?
he is the best, tho he is not a pagan.
As far as the language and literature goes.......he is great! I think he speaks old norse and norwegian
@@Cliff82 Icelandic is actually closer to old norse than Norwegian.
Your opinion on the works of Varg Vikernes and his wife Marie Cachet?
I treat these spirits as aspects of my “higher” Self.
I steer clear of modern ( 70's to present) sources. Most seem to be written to sell books not to preserve information or any scholarly intentions. At least concerning the Practice of Norse Heathenry as a way. Some modern translations are valuable as long as they are not just wordy editorials or pointed opinion pieces.
You should probably dismiss anything from the 1800s too, as they were just trying to tell fairy tales, and/or push political ideals of their time
Or trying to invent new religions, like Wicca, which whilst were great as counter-culture, they werent very concerned with any kind of truth, and were very heavy on unnecessary dogma
You should actually take anything written down, or spoken on YT, with a good pinch of salt
Digest the info of course, but believe only what your heart tells you is true, and not what other people tell you
Our very ancient ancestors of 2 or 3 millennia ago didnt read this stuff, and it never made them "bad pagans"
@@isty4491 I totally agree, but at some point we have to believe some of it. I like DuChaillu "the viking age" it has an honest feel to it and it points to many references in the sagas and eddas. It is usually the first book I reach for when I need a place to start looking.
@@northwoodskindred I havent read it, but now i will
I dont dismiss everyone, i usually just approach it with the idea they might just be idiots writing of fairy tales
Im quite a fan pf Jackson Crawfords books and YT channel, and Arith Hargers YT, and theyre about as "modern" as i get
I just believe more can be learned by sitting in a wood, or by a river, barefoot, and just listening
Im not saying i literally hear gods or voices (not schitzophrenic) but yoy can feel a lot, and many times i have felt presences, no rituals, no chanting no recitations, just being still (meditating)
Also of course and perhaps most importantly - no one eles approach is wrong, if some dancing and chanting works for someone, thats great
@@isty4491 A lot of that dancing and chanting is just people playing a game. I would never say that how any one chooses to honor the gods is wrong but sometimes there is less honor and more ego in this kinds of ritual. Crawford has good info but he seems a bit arogent, I like Arith as well. On my channel we focus on ritual and management of a kindred. We have been in this "religion" since 1993. Seems a lot of modern "experts" are teaching some pretty far out stuff.
I am still not ready for this stage lol 😂
hello there! i am from india and i love norse history and culture i dont understand why anything that is older then 2000yrs old certain people call it a mythology...why?? sure there must be an evidence which has been erased thru time but people should look for it and preserve it as a celebration atleast i am a hindu and hinduism is more then 7000yrs old and i believe norse cilvilisation is also a very old.. hinduism, norse, greek has very simliar gods like in hinduism we have "indra" which is also a god of thunder who has a weapon called "vajra" and in norse there is a thor and in greek ther is zues... there are lot of thing to know.
It's interesting you mention how during the viking age they were already losing sense of their own faith. I've heard that Tyr is a far more prominent god in the early ages (iirc before and just after viking age started) but that he fell off greatly in favour of others. I don't know how true but it seems to coincide with what you say.
Wouldn't you agree they were also partly expressing the faith of venerating the dead and ancestors?
Also I wouldn't dismiss that some mythologies are disconnected, these are stories that have been added over time, surely, it's only natural in a society. And many ancient cultures has made mythological stories to explain/describe extreme natural disasters. Highly plausible!
2/3rds into watching you for the first time, Atheist doesn't fit. Next time I'm asked I'm going to go with non-theist, most 'theists' only envision atheists as aggressors and lampoonist and I found out anything other than their belief is "atheist". I'm surrounded with Christians, years ago I drew a diagram of the Precession of the Vernal Equinox on a free school chalkboard behind a lathe and sometime after crosses and some type of anagram of symbols appeared. Weeks later the wife and cousin preacher were there so I asked them if they drew them to which they admitted and explained that it needed to be blessed... The constellations and the solar system? Good luck with your book, I've been playing that game and relearning HTML for the Pyramid Texts, it can be taxing if your not into it. What is strange, is that I've been experiencing missing time being so involved with the processes. I like the end of the Salust :...in the same manner as intellections are not separated from intellect, nor sciences from the soul. I'll have to check out the video on sympathetic magic, my favorite.
Humans have a hard time understandingconcepts like "God has always been and will always be." So, many Spiritual tTeachers, especially in places like India, "broke God down" into individual "traits or Characteristics" so that man could even try to 'wrap their heads around' these.
You should have wisdom of Odin on here or do a podcast with him that would be golden content 🤣
If you mean the YTer, the guy is an idiot and a charlatan
Though it would make a good podcast, watching NM&B tear him to shreds
@@isty4491 I think he means well but it would be interesting hearing them have a discussion
@@isty4491 Then don’t watch his videos 💩
@@chickenturtles6091
I dont watch WoO, i watched some, enough to know what he is
He is twisting the sagas and lore to make money and fool morons into political beliefs that didnt exist when the Sagas were written
@user739
I dont think he means well at all
It would be funny to watch the two of them discussing anythign though, because NM&B absolutely slay him
@@isty4491 Here is my answer to you. If you don’t like it, watch something else. It’s that simple. No one is forcing you to believe what he says.
I believe that it is very difficult to limit, or rather, delimit any deity, divinity or ancient belief (it is easier with modern beliefs). Your way of seeing paganism is very similar to Therevada Buddhism, even to Joseph Campbell's shamanism and its comparative mythology. It is very "ad hoc" with the cosmology of the 21st century and the new spiritual trends that are more pantheistic than pagan, but I don't think it was like that with the ancients, or at least in most cases. Even in institutionalized religions, with documents close to their formation that explain how it developed from the beginning (paganism was never founded like those religions, it always existed) it is difficult to limit belief to only one way, in paganism much more; For example, the worldview of Theravada Buddhism (almost atheistic) is very different from the doctrine of Mahayana Buddhism, or Vajrayana... Or in Christianity, some use images and Saints (minor Deities to put it in some way) and others believe that this is idolatry, others believe that only God the Father is God, others believe that all three are Gods, and others, the majority, believe that all are one God but in three different persons (The Holy Trinity). And not to mention the three Great Abrahamic religions that believe in the same God but understand it differently. Personally, I believe in a more versatile, less limited paganism, that is to say that I do believe that there are mythological events that are the way of expressing natural events as a fable, however, I also believe that there are supernatural events. I also believe that the deities are individual beings, each one with their own energy, but that they can interact with the Human Being, that is why the interpretations of them in so many pagan cultures. If today the World had a collapse, and humanity went backwards in global advance until it was almost extinct, and some documents were found about the attack on the Twin Towers, the use of electrical or Nuclear energy, flights outside the Earth, even airplane trips Perhaps they would also think that they are metaphorical representations of natural events and would be considered myths, simply because they would not understand it. I really like your channel, and your research, and although I don't always agree, you have very good information
BTW if you have chance check out Karpacz and temple Wang(which they call church which is wrong in my opinion and I hope you will enjoy the pictures of my home town take care Iwona(Evona) which I call myself Skadi's maiden and planning to open a place here and online called SKADI'S MOON and moon will mean Magic of old Norse
The a in Graeca isn't silent, it's a diphthong.
Sallust and Celsus!!!.. Yes the connections to the Kings... The Name Odin.. ??? I need more life time to study all the history!!
The same thing applies to them ancient dolls, well, not divine spirit gods, just any spirits.
You know it's funny to think about how there is now a lot of fictional horror that have some sort of possessed doll that has an "evil" sprit living inside it. Makes me wonder how far back that idea goes, and how it became the way it is now.
Skadi could be linguistically/dialect related to Skaidi which means where two rivers flow together (Samí, verified 10 days ago with locals in the area of Skaidi, Finnmark).
Bylgja is still the same word, bølge = wave.
Re. the statues & xtian critiques .. they conveniently forget their crucifixes, statues of saints, paintings, stained glass windows, etc. 🙄
That's an interesting interpretation. I wonder if it could have anything to do with the myth of Skadi and Nord being married and bound as Aesir and Vannir. Two rivers or two groups of gods coming together.
@@UN100Andrew Vanir and Jotnar, Skadi is not of the Æsir 😉, but yes it's possible.
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I wonder how did they even think god in the past. We have our superpowerful, in another plane, somewhat pure view of gods in many religions. But I wonder if they had another type of view and relationship with them.
The shop is only for America?
Yes. Working on getting shipping to Europe. Hopefully soon!
@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 alri thanks man can't wait
If its al sybolic then how about ragnarok cuz hate cant eat sun or moon and the 9 worlds en stuff
I look at it this way. Beyond christian sources. We have tactitus and the other codex's. That shows how ancient proto germanics were involved in prayer and offering practices. I think that there are intelligences behind abstract concepts. Each one appears differently to different people. Real has a different meaning to everyone. Will they appear in the flesh? No. Can they make themselves known in other ways? Yes.
What I'm supposed to do with this information, I'm lost, really lost
I love your Mjölnir bro! I wear mine with Nordic pride.
Not trying to be rude but you say you're Scottish so why would you have Nordic pride?
Ƿes þu hal'
@@jsheriff396 The further north one goes in the British Isles, the greater the prevalence of Scandinavian DNA. If you are familiar with the history of the British Isle you will understand why.
In my opinion it is inspiring that there seems to be an awakening in Germanic/Pagan awareness and pride for our ancient culture.
Be well.
@@starrcitizenalpha7847 would you be kind to direct me to any sources that prove this. Can't seem to find anything credible that backs your statement, you may be right, I just can't find anything.
@@jsheriff396 they definitely raided and settled in the isles. Sex was done and seed was spread lol
@@jsheriff396 All good mate. Historically the town of York/Yorvik in Northern England which was partly settled by the Vikings.
Which brings me to answer your question. On my mother side they have origins and ancestry from Yorvik going back on the family tree to the 14 century at least as my Uncle researched as best he could. And on my fathers side he is Scottish with Norwegian ancestry. However ironically, I was born in Glasgow, Scotland. But grew up and lived most of my life in Australia since I was 2 years old. I have just recently returned back 3 years ago to live and work here in Scotland now.
this days the liders want to change all religions to scientis and technology to see it like new gods,
don,t let that happen, we need to keep our traditions, and defend it
Everything that affects our lives are powers and defined as gods. They just have no intent or purpose of their own. The ancestors also made our existence possible without any knowledge or abilities of their own. All powers come from a greater power. An infinite regress of physical causes is nonsensical but every contingent physical thing is from a non contingent infinite cause defined as the God of gods.
I like this description. is it compatible to bring archetypes into the convesation? archetypal forces that attempt to represent a full spectrum of attributes. so the pantheons of gods in each localized context will represent these natural forces, similarly to how the archetypes do. there is a universality to observe because of the more universal-ish human experience of relationship with life and the universe. though the specific gods are individually, locally specific unique beings that share those attributes that humans are universally in relationship with.
@@tbahope1145 It’s just that none of the physical gods can cause themselves. Their power comes from the God of gods.
We are the descendants of the grandsons and great grandsons of Noah that were actually named. Ever hear of Asher? He is the father of the Assyrians (G). How about Aram? The father of the Arameans (F). Elam? Elamites (H). Cush Cushites (E3 M35 V6 M281), Phut early Phoenicians (E3 L19), Mitzrayim Egypt (E3 M78), Tiras Thracians (L), Gomer Europeans (R), Madai Medes (Q), Ancient Italy Tubal (K), Canaan Canaanites (E3 Z830), Arphaxad Hebrews and Arabic (I&J), Lud Lydians (F2), Meshek Siberians (N), Magog Asia (O), Javan is the Ancient Greek Mediterranean Sea people (T). It’s all about human history? You can’t make up known human history. It’s the only history there is. Neanderthals are Japhethites and Denisovans are a mix of Japhethites and Hamites, not Semitic. It shows up on DNA maps and charts. Every grandson of Noah and their descendants have their own paternal Y chromosome haplogroup lineage! I can name all sixteen of them like I just did and give you each of their haplogroups!
@Kleine Vuurvlinder The interesting thing is that human history calendars and genealogies only go back 5,000 years the time of the global flood. Only the Bible has history going back 6,000 years.
anyway
today WEDNESDAY is a good day to yell
BY THE POWERS OF THE ALL-FATHER!!⚡⚒
i do appreciate your existence my Pagan bro
even if you are not even aware that i Exist
I could have believed this prior to recent communication. The myths are symbolic for sure bit after what I've been experiencing I'd say you are wrong in some extent about their existence.
It seems like maybe something might have come across wrong in delivery/interpretation in the presentation. I agree with what is being said in this video, but in my belief it is that the gods are both personifications, as well as being able to commune with humans. Perhaps this is also your view?
I think we can create the gods within our own lives but they interact for real on a far more rare circumstance because they are not all humans imagine them to be. It's certainly not smoke and mirrors in my case though I cannot elaborate more. Humans want to see saviors and helpers and gods that care. Not selfish, arrogant, competitive, cruel, flawed beings so we create a false representation to comfort ourselves. We want to feel cared about and watched over so we create a fantasy that does that.
@@JourneyWithHavi What interests me a lot in the Norse Gods is that they are in fact flawed, and have their own issues to deal with. Which is also why they rarely commune with humans, in my opinion anyhow. It's quite a lovely dynamic.
They make drama on the internet look tame and boring. I pity a fragile mind dealing with them long term. Hell I pity me. Nah I adore them. Maybe. Sometimes! LOL!!!🐺🐺🐺
I can't take Sadhguru. But I will take Jay lakhani as a good source for Hindu scriptures.
.... and this is why I'm studying ancient astrology.
Somebody please tell me the name of the god of Gravity , I don't want to float away one day 😂
I have heard multiple theories ( I apologize, it has been awhile and I do not recall the source ), one is that it might be associated with Mjollnir as electromagnetism being explained through mythology ( another manifestation of Thor ), and another possibility would be Jormungandr, which could be representative of the compressing nature of gravitational fields whether the Earth's gravity ( the midguard serpent ), or something massive and inescapable like a black hole. Some theories are speculation and far fetched, but being that the God's are often manifested through natural forces, some would make sense as an earlier understanding of scientific laws ( expressed in mythology of course ).
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I agree with the whole statue thing but I completely disagree with the Gods and Goddesses are not in human form the thing is I believe in animism but I also believe it came from the Gods and Goddesses in a spirit realm that created life itself I think people that say they aren’t actual beings never had pagan experiences like I did and alot of other pagans do also I think that mindset came from people that just stopped believing in the Gods and Goddesses they once believed in
I’ve had crazy experiences that lead me to believe they are in human form and I think they just don’t want to reveal themselves to everyone unless u worship them
I have had dreams about the gods before I even knew what they were but that doesn't really mean anything, could be my dna conjuring it up because I have ancient memories of them if that makes sense?
Even in the Mormon Community they make statues of Jesus Christ the time and his prophet apostles to honor and a to praise.
Symbols of the Gods do have a spirit/Animism connection. Sadhguru is a wise man. Oh no.shock.the Romans... I Cringe thinking about the rulers connected to church..take over.
Scythian Jat sikh holder of Indo European’s last heritage Vedic we are still alive