12V Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee 5 in 1 Drill Comparison
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Bosch’s (Chameleon) GSR12V-300FCB22, DeWALTs (5-1 Extreme) DCD703F1 and Milwaukee’s (Installation Drill Driver) 2505-22 are given a workout in this video. We put these three drills on a job for a few months to see what all differences they had. That’s how you see if they are up to the task of everyday work.
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It's the Bosch chameleon, you know the reptile that can change its colors and blend in 😂
Also the boss has more attachments like SDS that aren't included in the kit.
Those shape shifting color shifting reptiles😀
@@6atlantis the SDS attachment only works on the 18V model
😂😂😂😂😂 sea monsters I guess he never heard of a panther chameleon
@@luisinhoens90 Incorrect - they make one for the 12v drill as well now. Good for small holes, tap cons.
Bosch with the 4ah 12v battery for me. Used all three, and the Bosch just had more "touch" for finishing and precise work. The 4ah hour allows to stand up when set down.
The tool comparison I needed. Great job. More videos please.
Bosch is the best, I still have 2 batteries from from 2010 that still works great on my drill and impact.
I had the attachment drop off of my Milwaukee while installing a ceiling fan in someone’s home. Fortunately the floor was carpet instead of hardwood. It’s good that you pointed that out.
It freaked us out the first time it happened. Appreciate the comment.
Excellent review. Thank you for taking the time to show us the differences in real world settings. I’m sold on the Dewalt.
The Bosch is what I’m running but you can’t go wrong with the DeWALT its a absolute power house. Appreciate the comment.
Great review guys! Thanks.
Thank You
I have so many power tools and I always find myself going back to the Bosch 12v screwdrivers because they are light weight and I have more control with them due to the precision control with the trigger mechanism and also the overall size is so small I can fit that inside almost anything I am working on.
I do residential and commercial HVAC for a living. If this little guy cannot remove something I will determine which impact to go get. I like these because unlike an impact driver it won’t damage the work surface or the fastener as easy
Totally agree….👍👍👍
I have stripped so many screws not knowing that I wasn’t using the right driver in the first place haha bigger is not always better! The lil Bosch has saved my life
I'm just a homeowner who does a lot of different projects and I agree I absolutely love the Bosch 12 volt driver, just such a nicely refined tool in every way!
@MikeMPharmaCyclist it’s a phenomenal drill/driver and reliable as well. The longer I have the more I appreciate it.
@@campbellbuilt absolutely, I've had the same experience. I've had them brushed flexi kit for maybe 3 years or so and I just bought the brushless version recently because I loved it so much and figured it would be nice to have two of them with different bits and whatever.
I have the m12 and use it to build/install cabinetry. You guys might have been pushing them a little harder than what they were designed for, but it was good to see a comparison. I might pick up the DeWalt just for when I'm working with super dense material.
We never planned using these drills this much but these do most of our construction choirs. All three are pretty amazing in our opinion. Appreciate the comment.
Great comparison. I need small and versatile. Use in tight and awkward spots. If I need power, I’m going to a bigger drill.
Glad I watched all the way through! Was already leaning towards the Bosch but that ladder bit is a dealbreaker for the others
Great video 😊
Appreciate it.
great video guys. I believe these tools are made more for cabinet installation/ assembly and woodworking, but nice to see the field testing
Your absolutely correct about their intended use, however if we can eliminate a tool on the van with out the need for multiple different drills I’m doing it. We have done that exact thing since releasing the video.
Appreciate the comment Uncle
@@campbellbuilt yes its a perfect all in one , repair kit. I have a hiti one- cost me a pretty penny but I use it all the time
Nice
I use it for everything except large holes and fasteners. That turns out to be 90% of stuff I do. I’m not getting any younger and I feel no need to lug around a 4-5lb drill when a 1.5lb drill does what I need.
SHAM-elon? 😂🤣 I had to restart the video because I couldn't hear anything over my laughing after that pronunciation!
That’s what I was looking for
@@campbellbuilt Clever -- you got two views out of me!
Thx for the review, quite helpful. The missing belt clip on the Bosch is a big negative for me.
I agree they should have put a clip on it.
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It’s small enough that I just shove it in my pouch.
So the DCD701 for me. Just a drill to enbiggen centerpunch marks and make a pilot hole. Thanks for the demonstrations and ladder observation.
Appreciate the comment
For the Milwaukee, by far the biggest issue I have with the direction switch being a button on the top is that it's same button that's on the all of the M12 impactors. Somehow Milwaukee decided that it's a good idea to put the same button, in the same place, and with similar graffics on multiple tools in the M12 family, but with completely different functions. On the impactors it changes speed. On the installation driver it changes direction. I sometimes switch between the installation driver and the surge driver. Fortunately I only made the mistake once.
The switch was our biggest annoyance. I hadn’t noticed that about the switch and the other 12v tools. I’ll have to check that out compared to our other 12v Milwaukee tools.👍👍👍
That’s my only gripe too. I like to be able to feel the switch direction without having to look at the tool before starting fastener. Especially when reaching into a tight spot and the top of the drill isn’t visible. I hate when I starting a screw and it’s in reverse.
I went for the bosch because of the batteries, it's really come in handy in the tight spaces we work in, I would've gone dewalt but the batteries for far too large, Milwaukee......well every store I went to had heaps of warranty returns behind the counter, that was enough to scare me off.
We have abused our bosch 12v impact driver and drill, I mean doing shit they were not designed to do over the past 2 years and they're still going strong.
We’ve completely replaced our standard drills with these. Really surprised at how well their holding up and how much were using the attachments.
I was unaware of warranty issues with the Milwaukee’s. Most likely their switches. From what I’ve ran it though it’s a pretty excellent drill just prefer the other two.
Shamalon, installshin lol thank you for the video
Bosch has specific names for the American market, which for some reason are always pretty weird. The same goes for Milwaukee over in Europe. The 2912-20 is called the FHX here (Fuel Hammer with fiXtec).
At least that Milwaukee (FHX) makes sense. Thanks for commenting.
@@campbellbuiltThe Bosch does make sense, chameleon referring to the reptile changing colors just refers to the idea that Bosch can change the type of tool it is just like the chameleon, other than being too many letters it's not a bad name.
Looking to get the 12v dewalt for conference room AV installations. I use a 20v XR for my daily but this would be useful for underneath tables, behind displays and rack work. I cant get behind the switching button for milwaukee otherwise I may consider it more.
You will love the 12v DeWALT drill. Like I said in the video I run the Bosch but my son runs the DeWALT and it’s excellent. The Milwaukee is a spare for helpers but is an excellent drill as well. You can’t go wrong with any of them.
Great video as usual. I have both but I think I'll be returning the Milwaukee. If you could only have one which would it be?
They’re all winners but the DeWALT almost replaces a 18v/20v drill. It has a ton of power. The Bosch is still my favorite for the size though. If I only had one probably the DeWALT.
Crazy they use these for 18V applications, im specifically buying one for less power, weight, and compact ease of use
Then you want Bosch. It’s the smallest, lightest, most compact. It also has the best build quality. The Milwaukee shape is really nice though, it’s copied from Festool, and it’s amazingly ergonomic.
I have the bosch brushless and m12 install driver. Bosch missed winning the gold and just totally running away from the competition for 2 simple issues. The light and weird backwards collet design. Just update the light, add a standard stick and click collet and maybe add a tad more power and that’s its. The twist lock tool design and pull out adapter rotation, the forward and reverse location and the locking bit collet on the offset are a big win for me. After you pointed out the slip lock design failure of the milwaukee and dewalt I like it even less now. And the adjustment of the 90 and offset I find to be cumbersome on the milwaukee and I’d imagine the dewalt as they are the same. I really like the form factor of the milwaukee though and the metal drill chuck.
At the end of the day these are finishing tools more for finess than raw power.
BTW just incase you and your son didn’t realize, when attaching a new tool onto the bosch just make sure the lock/unlock icon is always at the top (where the drive 1/2 selector is)and then turn the icon toward the silver paint indicator. I kind of wish the silver was red for unlock and green for lock but it’s minor.
Great review!
Good points Shane. I do know that we’re pushing the limits of what these tools were designed for. However, after using these tools for some time now I believe most individuals/contractors can eliminate their standard 12v and only run this. We hardly ever get our larger 20v drills out for jobs any longer because these little beasts get er done 😀
@@campbellbuilt Yup, I totally agree with you and don’t disagree with pushing the tools to test the limits. Although it’s not what they were designed for you know what you can ask of the tool in a pinch. The only m18 tools in my bag at the moment are the gen 3 impact and multi tool with single small 2 or 3ah battery just incase. I think my next purchase will be the 12v sds rotary drill.
Any plans to test out the bosch 18v version of this? Curious to see how it does
I have the older brushed version of the bosch, can you combine attachments with the milwaukee or the dewalt like you can with the bosch? I've used the offset attachment with the 90 degree to get into tight places.
I have the m12 and thought it would be so useful, it ended up being a bit of a flop for me. Every once in a while it's awesome for one specific screw in a tight space however if I'm not in the mood to go get the specific head to drive one screw I can usually just use more extensions or a 1/4 hex drive right angle bit adapter and be better off anyway. The direction button SUX, major fail there lol. It's also the only tool that has bad ergonomics with an XC battery which is a shame because XC batteries really wake the tool up. That's not as a big deal anymore because of the new 2.5ah CP HO batteries but it was before then. Also the wrap around handle is a gimmick, they just wanted to be Festool "cool". (festool came out with this kind of tool first). Anyways the handle/stand doesn't do anything helpful better design couldn't fix. I still use it alot because dang it I own it but it's usually just on conduit reaming duty.
If you think I'm just a hater take a look at the euro version of this tool the M12 FPDX. A better design in my opinion
Does wrap around handle on m12 get in the way?
And does it help it stand up any better.
The handle absolutely gets in the way if you want to use the XC batteries. It's the only tool that can't stand up with XC batteries in it. It has a magnetic strip on the front & they claim it's a handy place to store screws or bits but I don't know what psycho is doing that lol
These three drills really impressed us with their durability. These have replaced are daily used drills with much more flexibility.
I thought that I would only would use the Milwaukee Installation Driver now and then to get me out of a jamb. I have found that it’s the one I reach for the most. It’s now my daily driver followed by my Milwaukee m12 Surge. It’s surprising to me how much torque the little thing has. The larger more powerful Dewalt 20v drill and impact driver stay in the truck most of the time until they are really needed.
ive had the milwaukee u have here and the previous one and i ended up getting the DeWalt because the milwaukee was so annoying with its stupid direction button positioning. the milwaukee is hard to balance when placing on a flat surface which pi$$e$ me off. the other Milwaukee accelerates very slowly . im a milwaukee guy but the DeWalt has more precision when you press the trigger the different torques are well spaced out unlike the milwaukee even in the lowest torque its too much power . the DeWalt is also lighter to carry. so my favourite is the DeWalt even though i was against them lol. Im a locksmith so i deal with a lot of wood and uPVC doors where torque setting and speed is essential WHEN REMOVING 18 SCREWS AND RE APPLYING THEM. good video and nice to see father and son working together
Good info here. Really didn’t consider comparing the trigger sensitivity. The direction button really bothered me as well but overall the drill (Milwaukee) seams to be well made. Appreciate the thoughts.
It's pronounced "kuh-MEE-lee-un" like the lizard. I have the M12 and from another review I believe the DeWalt and Milwaukee both got closer to the edge with their offset heads, which is a big deal, and the Milwaukee had easily the best feather control. If you're beating them silly all day, that's probably not a big deal. I keep mine handy with the offset head attached, but it's not my daily driver because it's less powerful than the Surge by a good margin and lacks impact.
After using the offsets heads for awhile I can understand why you leave it on. Love those things.
Ive been team yellow for 7 years, and this just confirms I'm right lol
I want one of those tools
Why would you choose the larger of the tools if the only clear benefit over a standard drill or driver is to get into difficult spots? I have a Bosch 12v "pocket driver" that's over a decade old because I needed a tool that could fit into a tight spot, and it's been my go-to for that reason since I got it. I have a different 18v platform for everything else. I'm looking at this multi-head version of that tried-and-true Bosch pocket driver to get into even tighter spots. It's an interesting data point that other, similar tools have more power or whatnot, but at the end of the day, size matters - and in this case, the smaller tool is simply better for what I'd use it for.
I agree about the size and what the intended uses of this tool. That being said we’ve dropped down to one 20v drill and a 60v for really large tasks on the tool truck. These 12v tools do almost everything we need.
@@campbellbuilt For sure, these 12v tools have come a long way and can get the job done with a heck of a lot less fatigue than lifting a full size 18v/20v tool with a big battery overhead for hours. I'd buy into a Ryobi 12v system if they made one! I'm a sucker for that bright green.
Hi guys
Any belt clips on the bosch?,thanks for the reviews.
Sadly no
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I only have the M12, been happy with it so far😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
All these 12v drills are awesome. Short of running larger hole saws they can handle almost any task. Not sure if you sent DM of your ladder rack. Never received it.
@@campbellbuilt nope haven't done it yet, went on vacation and got covid😥😥😥
@@tedmcdonald3377that’s life isn’t. Get well
Yea I don't know who hired the marketing team for bosch north America, trades and workers want professional tools with professional names and professional performance, Europe names everything better I think, out there they have 18v and 12v versions and they are called flexiclick and the 18 volt version you can buy an sds hammer drill adapter
The naming of the tool part of the video was more fun than anything. That name was confusing though. 18v sds drill adapter sounds very interesting. Appreciate the comment
In Germany they just released the sds Hammer drill adapter for the 12V version
I really got to give you guys credits for your efforts.
I run
Milwaukee 12volt
Makita 18volt
Dewalt 20v/60v Flexvolt
Enjoy using all three systems, the fact that each of these manufacturers competitively out does each on certain tools is the icing on the cake!!!
I prefer the Milwaukee in this video for better inline hand placement. I actually like the top forward reverse button. If you use the grip where your second last to pinky finger is the trigger finger, the thumb easily reaches the forward revers button❤
Although Bosch puts out some great tools too, I don’t like the hand grip on this particular tool, same with the Dewalt.
Awesome comment. Your combination of tools is similarly to ours except for the 12v. That being said I could run any of the three 12v’s and be happy.
Appreciate the comment
@@campbellbuilt your welcome!
Where is the Hilti?
🦎 chameleon, its the color changing lizard ya dingus
Easy, just a little humor there
I sold my Milwaukee and keep the Bosch. I feel the Bosch just has more what I am looking for. The milwaukee just feels long and bulky. It's also not as balanced as the bosch.
Their all great tools but I agree with you as well.
The word Chameleon is Kah-meal-lee-un. It's a lizard dude. That can change colors. Hence why they named a drill that can change its head attachments. Probably the best name of the bunch. Were you being serious?
There was some heavy sarcasm in there😀. Appreciate the comment.
@@campbellbuiltlol it did seem like you were joking but you can never be certain unless you really know someone
Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon
You come and go, you come and go
Loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams
Red, gold, and green, red, gold, and green…
Fuck, now it’s stuck in my head.
My dude swung for the fence going for the project farm comparison with 200 someodd likes
I don’t watch his channel so I haven’t a clue.
@@campbellbuilt your’s is aptly named.. can’t call you a fibber!
Thank you Sir @@robbiewilliamson357
I coulda sworn chameleon is a cool little reptile
Great video!
Appreciate it.
Chameleon ( kə-ˈmēl-yən) 1
1: lizards with prehensile (see PREHENSILE sense 1) tail, independently movable eyeballs, and unusual ability to change the color of the skin
2: a person who often changes his or her beliefs or behavior in order to please others or to succeed
She's a political chameleon.
3: one that is subject to quick or frequent change especially in appearance
Tourmaline is the chameleon of the gem kingdom because it can assume virtually any color.
Might want to expand your vocabulary. This is a common term. 😂
Kah-me-li-on
Ya really never heard of word chameleon?? Lmao talk about living under a rock lol
Good review nonetheless 👍
It’s all Tongue and Cheek 😀
dewalt needs way more 12v tools, their range is too limited
Lol chameleon 🦎 like the lizard
Chameleon is a lizard that can change its color to match its background. The ch is pronounced like a k, kameleon.
The last thing I want is a tool matching its back ground and then not being able to find it LOL. Appreciate the comment Rossi
@@campbellbuilt Thanks. I did not look it up but I suspect the idea is that the tool can be configured to match the needed function.
Yes, I believe that is what they were going for.
DeWalt is best in price, ergonomics. LED much brighter than Bosch
DeWALT is pretty decent.
The name is "chameleon" (kə-ˈmēl-yən); as in the reptile because it can change.
I know what it was just didn’t want a reptile drill 🤣
@@campbellbuilt, by the way, thank you for mentioning in your video how the heads pop off the DeWALT & MIlwaukee versions. I was going to buy the DeWALT and ended up taking advantage of a sale on the Bosch for this reason. No one else ever mentioned the ladder thing.
@@bdm1000 The head popping off is a big deal to us and I think the reason other people aren’t mentioning it is their lack of on job experience with the tools.
Appreciate the comment and enjoy the new drill.
Chameleon is a lizard that can blend in with multiple surroundings....
Seem the dewalt has more power thou....
2:12 - the name won’t make sense until you can actually say installation.
Robbb
I wish they would just keep a few bucks and not give a bag that I have to throw away. I don't need a dozen DeWalt purses.
The thing is if they remove the bags they will charge even more for the tool 😀.
I agree on the Milwaukee and Bosch bag however the Dewault bag is awesome. Having room for a couple of different bit boxes right with the tool.
Would it have helped if Bosch had spelled it "KAMELION" or" KAMELEON?" No, it's not pronounced CAMEL LION.
😀😩😀
@@campbellbuilt The Shamilon does have a nice ring to it though. 🤣
Really you wana talk about bag organization on the DEWALT and you don’t even have it organized.. by far the dumbest way to do a comparison
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