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Yup, you heard it here last everyone... KTM's aren't exactly reliable, but I bought one anyway! This is a brand spanking new 2023 KTM 690 Enduro R and it's already got some problems... Why am I drawn to flawed European motorcycles? Why must I yearn for character and soul from an inanimate object? Why can't KTM competently screw together a motorcycle? All this and more on this episode of Dragonball GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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00:00 - Intro
01:04 - Max Trade In Value
07:13 - Trying To Buy A Bike...
08:52 - New BIKE Day!
10:51 - And It's Broken...
12:03 - The 690 Is Stupid
15:05 - Why'd I Buy It?
18:00 - Future Mods - Авто та транспорт
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Don't know what KTM is smoking? Well, neither do they.
Sometimes you gotta roll the dice
ROFLMAO !!!!!! Dude, comment of the CENTURY !!!!!!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ktm reliability is one thing, but dealing with ktm corporate is quite another ball of wax.
Oh trust me I know. It took 9 months to get a new frame for my SMCR when a thief broke it...
@@spitescornerhopefully the Cam issue won't bite you given how shitty KTM treat owners
I have owned $40k of KTMs and installed $50k of aftermarket parts on them -- never had a problem. Just sayin'...
@@mrkang4080 of course we know a large percentage of people have no problems. That's why the company still exists. No one is saying 100% of people have problems. We're just saying that 97% of them do lol
The gear shift sensor for neutral suddenly went out on my Duke. Took it to the dealer and fully covered under warranty with no issues or pushback whatsoever. Dealer said KTM is fine to deal with. Piaggio group... another story.
I didn't know Harley made KTMs...
😂😂😂
Lol that's mean.
Harley =KTM:
Kindly
Titled
Motorcycle
Ha... Ha... .... .... Ha...
@@JRods2 I mean Harley actually warranty their shit, KTM nooope
KTM means, Keeps Taking Money
Pro tip from your Uncle Stranger, don't use Windex on plastic as over time it can cause hazing and cracking. Wash with warm soapy water and then rub on lemon pledge. Makes plastic look good and smell good too! Sorry, not interested in the KLR but if you want to sell the Griso do let me know!
Alcohol or Ammonia do cause crazing. I'll try the lemon pledge, neat idea.
@@mechaniac It works!
whats lemon pledge? Can I just use lemon juice?
@@carlosandleon Lemon pledge is a furniture polish and wax. When applied to clean plastic it forms a see through seal which will protect the the windscreen or visor. I wouldn't recommend lemon juice due to its high acidity. The lemon in lemon pledge refers to the scent, but I believe it also comes in orange.
@@carlosandleon Furniture polish from a pressurized spray can. Product name is Lemon Pledge.
I was thinking maybe I should consider this over the DRZ 400 SM but as a new rider that 0 day failure really nailed why I should not.
As a new rider the drz is absolutely fantastic. Bulletproof and fun and cheap to buy and fix. Ive seen so many new riders as well as new mechanics buying expensive high performance and high tech machines just to lose money on them a couple years later or dump a new fancy bike also.
I’d likely never consider anything other than a Japanese brand.
Yamaha
Honda
Kawasaki
Suzuki
@@americandude3825 ?
@@theblishknovk my bad. Typo. I corrected it.
Pro tip, KTMs still have issues lol
And not minor ones, and bigger problem is how they even deal with em
They short out the instrument cluster in the rain. Garbage ass bikes.
I went to pick my new KTM 790 Adventure S in the Philippines the other day and on the way home it started cutting out. I’ve had nothing but trouble but I still love it.
😂 u people accepting this is part of the problem
The 790 and 890 are well known to have cam shaft issues. But please continue to support overpriced mediocrity. You are as bad as the average BMW owner.(which are also crap).
I rode my new 690 SM home from the dealer only to have oil dripping on the floor from the countershaft seal. Had the seal replaced under warranty, and it leaked just the same. I think the countershaft itself was probably the problem. In any case I traded it in shortly thereafter due to the leak and it having more false neutrals than any bike I had ridden in well over 40 years of riding. In fairness, I bought a second one later, and it had neither problem. So 50/50 success rate.
I'm pretty sure it's not the countershaft seal on this one. It looks like a weep where the stator cover meets the lower.
no missed shifts or leaks here , dealer had to turn on quickshifter at 1st service tho ... still funnest bike I've had (20+)
Man KTM has serious issues with inspecting the engines after assembly. Usually these engines are reliable but the people working at the factories dont really care. They outsourced them to india....
That's disappointing man thanks I didn't know this..
At least my 390adv has been just fine.
The 690s are actually built in Austria which makes it even less acceptable.
Only the 390 and smaller are built in India by Bajaj, and for what it's worth my 390 Duke has been rock solid so far
@@spitescorner no theyre actually not. The bike is only assembled competley in austia- the engine is entirely made in india.
Congratulations on purchasing the 2nd best motorcycle(1st best is the 701 enduro ;)). I've got a 701 enduro as my only bike and it's wonderful, I've put 4,000 miles on it in 3 months. I'm sure you've done your research but there's a couple things I wanted to point out for people that may be interested in this bike. Despite the oil leak you have, you're correct in saying these bikes are fairly reliable now. However, there are still a few little quirks. Firstly, I implore you to re-route the sidestand switch as soon as you can or purchase the bypass dongle and carry it with you any time you ride. This platform uses a magnet sensor for the sidestand switch, and the magnet likes to work its way loose and leave you stranded. It's not like older bikes where you can just wire it together as a trailside fix either. You have to bypass it with a fancy $90 dongle or re-route it. I didn't want to pay for a dongle and I'm used to not having a sidestand sensor so I simply rewired it to sit under the seat and I taped and heatshrinked a magnet to the sensor.
The other thing is if you intend to put luggage on this bike, definitely do the perun moto subframe reinforcement. The strength of the subframe bolts isn't ideal for luggage offroad and there's many stories of people shearing them off. It hasn't been fixed as far as I'm aware.
And finally there's the notorious clutch slave o-ring failure. This has been fixed on new bikes but if somebody is reading this and looking to buy used, it's worth noting. The o-ring in the stock clutch slave tends to fail, and then you no longer have a clutch and also clutch fluid leaks into the engine. It's an easy fix via a new o-ring without the defect or with an oberon clutch slave. It was fixed on 2021 and later bikes for the 701, I'm not sure what year for the KTM.
Finally, a couple of other things. I agree that these bikes are a bit overpriced, however, you can get very lucky on the used market. I for example bought my 2019 701 with 2k miles on it for $7500. Now this was in december in the US so I did get the bonus of it being winter, but it is possible to find deals on these machines. And it already had a seat concepts seat which is great. Also if you like the intake sound, the Rade garage fuel tank kit that changes the airbox makes it even more aggressive. It genuinely sounds like a rally bike. Some people hate it but I love it. Just make sure that you email them to get the VAT coupon before ordering anything from them if you're in the US, as VAT is included in their prices and it is not automatically deducted. As for exhausts, I think the wings exhaust is the best value. It's a titanium slip on that you can purchase from the factory for like $350. They sound great and they do come with silent baffles. Also the rottweiler fuel dongle and canister/SAS delete are worth doing for sure.
Big Rock Moto's review of this bike is absolutely spot on. It's no contest the closest thing to the dual-sport/ADV unicorn if you put in the time and $$$$ to get it there. But it's also a jack of all trades master of none.
That's good info to know, thanks. You're definitely a KTM (or Husky, or Gas Gas) guy. I'm getting close to joining the cult, if I'm not already a member...
I've been trying different bikes (on and off road) over the last few years, and the only bike that made me think "This is IT! I'll never sell it" is the 300xcw (dual sport 😁) that I got last year.
And now, the only new off-road bikes I'm even considering are both KTMs (500exc & the 690) or their Husky/ Gas-Gas sisters. I'm heavily leaning towards the 690/ 701 because I grabbed a super cheap '04 450exc just to see if I liked it and it's been holding up great, so I don't feel the need to upgrade while it's working out for me.
Seems like the 690/701 is literally my ONLY choice if I want an "Adventure" bike that's not closer to a full on touring bike in size and weight. I thought the Yamaha Tenere 700 might be nice, but it still feels too big and top heavy for my taste, so 690 it is, I guess.
@Wooskii1 I have no brand allegiances. I'd love if a Japanese manufacturer made a 701 competitor. I simply bought the bike that fits my needs.
The fact that KTM 790/890's are eating cams at an abnormal rate while CFMoto is making the 'same engine' and not having reports of the issue says a lot about KTM to me right now. They are a company I would stay away from new bikes for a while, feels like the bean counters have taken over, quietly cheaping out on things and these are expensive bikes.
Tbf the KTMs have a higher power output, perhaps KTM is chasing peak power figures at all costs and CFMotos being a bit more limited actually helps them in terms of reliability?
That specific engine, yes. The LC8 in the super duke is still a reliable monster.
I can 2nd that the longevity is not good for outlooking the reliability is going to go down. Not one with 40k plus
Hoe many cfmoto’s with the 790 engine have high mileage yet? Too early to say they don’t have the camshaft problem.
@@timsalabimbombassa well in the Asian market lots them
A surprisingly good cleaner for windscreens and other plastics: Lemon Pledge (the furniture polish). Works very well.
Hey Spite thank you for the shout out. Was a pleasant surprise watching the video just now. I am glad they are working out well for you. That 360 camera sideview does resmble a certain bear on a bicycle I seen at the circus once lol. Look forward to the new KTM content. Nice to be able to park it inside not like the SMCR.
what is KTM smoking? mostly oil...
Windex has ammonia. Not good for plastics. Just distilled water dish soap and something like jet dry One Drop to clean plastics. Especially gauge clusters and windshields.
Put some Windex on your flying eyes and see how long they last before they start drying out and cracking from the ammonia.
wish Honda competed in that segment. Just slap the Transalp engine on some enduro frame
An XR750 would be sweet.
@@jasonb6570 or they could bring back the NX. NX700 or 800 would be rad.
Sorry not gonna happen. If they were interested they'd do something in last 40years.
Kove is currently the only hope
I’ve had 4 KTMs and a couple of husqvarnas. (A 701 included) (all newer than 2019)
I never had any major issues, but then I didn’t put loads of miles on them.
BUT. None of them liked lots of water. Electrics ain’t waterproof at all. Even on brand new ones.
Not that they would brake down.
But dash warning lights would randomly turn on if they liked it.
Brake lights and headlight would get stuck on high beam or just not work until it dried out. And I found lots of rust on a 2 year old 350excf frame (hidden under bashplate)
Things like that.
I think most of the major elements are now pretty solid. Suspension, engine etc.
but the paint quality and electrics are still a long way off matching Japanese’s quality.
Good luck with the KTM, you going to need it.
Love seeing you back on a 690, and the enduro version at that! Right on!
KTMs weren't known to be the most reliable when they were entirely built in Austria...let alone now that the have outsourced the manufacturing of many parts.
Racist
Yup whole 790/890 series is absolute disaster
@@ohherewegoagain 🤣😂 Good one. Almost thought you were serious for a second.
I have a 690 enduro. Love that bike. I've even done single track with it. It was much harder than my Husky FE 350 S but it was doable. Enduro is at home of fire roads and mild to moderate off-road, feels like a supermoto on the street. Great camping bike. Slave cylinder went out but KTM covered it for me. No problems since. Just want a 790 or 890 for the longer street trips and Ill have all my riding covered. Congrats on the bike.
Good review on the 690. I own a 21 and love it! I have had no issues yet(key word being "yet"). I can say that my Africa Twin has that same leak at the stator wire seal.😢
The place where the 690 excels is dirt roads as it's heavy for a trail bike and light for a street bike.
Find your favorite dirt road and enjoy! 😁😎
Ran a fully kitted DRZ SM for two seasons. Was a lot of fun. Could easily run it to its limits on the street.
Last October I sold it to a coworker and stepped up to a pre-owned 21 KTM SMCR. Already has all the go-fast goodies and tuned. Even came with all the OEM bits except the stock can.
It's definitely a huge upgrade.
I really like the valve adjustment set-up.
Can easily find the limits of the DRZ in a short time if you're an experienced rider.
The limits on the KTM are much higher and expend the fun factor quite a bit.
I've yet to get the two bikes out on the same roads. That should be interesting. Hope my coworker buddy doesn't die.😏
The KTM is a really decent bit of kit. No issues with it yet.
I can watch Orange enduro content all day. Good to see you on the unicorn light ADV bike Spite, can't wait for the build.
LC4 might be decent now but the LC8c is eating itself alive. Oil leaks, coolant leaks, and the worst of it, camshafts are prematurely wearing on pretty much every 790/890 platform bike.
The LC8c feels like it might have been rushed a bit. The LC8 has been in production for like 10 or 12 years, and that's also more or less true for the LC4. The LC8c has only been out for a few years.
I had a Duke 790 and it was an absolute pos!....I have owned several KTMs and they were all pretty reliable except for that pile of trash 790.
@@spitescorner Good luck with the NK!
In the kick start days we called em "kick till Monday"
cheers from Greece !!
A T7 lover !!
Love ktm! Congrats on new purchase
I use Windex as an almost everything cleaner. Assuming its something that doesn't react with ammonia. Plastic reacts so not the best option.
That Get On ADV Fest sounds awesome! Definitely something I’d like to do when it’s not my first year of riding.
Looks like a ton of fun! I'd definitely be interested to see a triple side by side comparison between the KTM, Husky and GasGas in terms of quality and where your money is being spent, budget cuts etc. For me at the end of the day, 1/4 of the bike will be replaced with better aftermarket parts, so the main factor is where do you set the baseline at for quality over money spent.
Me and my WR450 want to go on a ride with you. Having an extra set of supermoto wheels is the best. I’m really happy with my Tusk Impact rims. Grip it and rip it my man!
A Wings exhaust comes with db reducers, CRT fuel optimizer (gets between the 0² sensor and ecm, not 0² delete), Rottweiler SAS delete and a Evap delete. Simple and solid!
I was so close to getting the gas gas sm700. My local dealer had a leftover ‘23 for $$1500 off and no setup fees but I just couldn’t pull the trigger.
They look so good with the red plastics and red frame too.
Spite, you saw me at msrh with my 701sm. It was super fun and performed amazing. These bikes are worth the trouble tbh.
I bought a new 2022 690 Enduro R in 2023. Love the bike. It encourages you to ride like a hooligan.
Funny thing is I bought it to replace a 2022 KLR.
Take a look at the Sharon exhaust. Lite weight, relatively quiet and affordable.
I got cycle cruza in one ear, and spite in the other. Tryna get me to buy one.
Good stuff 👍,
I hope she serves you well.
To say the Ktm is demonstrably inferior to the Ducati, is a demonstrably untrue statement.
you def need a rade garage fairing kit on that it would great
I knew you would be back. They always come back 😂
Any thoughts on picking up some warp9 rims to swap when you get the sumo itch?
Had a 2009 690r and loved that bike. Went on decades long tangent with other KTMs and am back with a 2023 690r:) Vastly improved over the 2009 model and still just as hooligan. Traded a KTM 890r for the 690r purely for the lighter weight of the 690r. Making my life much easier off road not having to deal with the much heavier 890r. Looking forward to your evisceration of the bike:)
I have a 2022 and i highly recommend getting it flashed and replacing the airfilter with MWR.
Gains are huge. got more than 17nm more in the midrange.
Oh and from my exprience its better to run these engine´s in hard, that way they dont consume oil further down the road. (Had 4 ktm 690s).
On my red ktm (sm700) I had my shifter return spring (so it bends back if you push it backwards) fail on the first ride. It's weird small qc issues. But love the darn bike
You should try a 950 se on dirt, that's truly a manic bike
Where are you based in Texas? Sam Houston National Forest has some awesome trails- when they aren't closed for rain
I bought a brand new 2020 790 Adventure in 2021 for $1000 off MSRP. It also had an oil leak almost immediately haha. Nothing serious so I rode it for a few thousand miles before I took it in for warranty work. It took 8 MONTHS for the parts to come in! Pretty ridiculous just for some gaskets. Anyways it was a fantastic bike but I did end up selling it recently.
Lemmon pledge works much better for cleaning motorcycle windscreens. Just a helpful tid bit 😉
Bought my 5th ktm a 22 1290 evo SuperDuke new and at the end of 150 mile ride home from the dealer there was a casting defect hole in the front head leaking coolant all over. A month and a half later and with a new front cylinder head I got the bike back. Not my favorite KTM experience but I still love the bikes and currently have 3 in the garage.
Congratulations! And, my condolences?🤔😂
I love KTM but my blinker almost fell off on my ride home with my brand new 390 duke. If it would stop raining I could finish break in and get the quick shifter unlocked
I miss my '15 690 Enduro... Out of all the bikes I've had... that is the one I had the most fun on, so much joy.
i picked up a DRZ 400, but so fun to ride ,KTM husky always have problems
Yeah, I rolled the dice because I've got a few other bikes I can ride if this needs to go in for repairs, and I just wanted another LC4. I'm weird like that lol
Nice! Maybe you can get Scotts to give you a steering damper and do a review on it. I'm thinking about buying one.
Oooh good idea! I thought about getting one for the SMCR and totally forgot about it.
I have a 2021 KTM 690 R and never have had any issues yet 🤞
I really liked their Duke 690 too!
Looks dorky but fun as hell for sure.
Dang Spite looking good! Really increasing the HP:Weight ratio on all your bikes huh :D?
Thanks! Yeah, rider mods are the easiest way to increase performance lol
Mr Sheen window cleaner in the trigger bottle is my goto
dunno about america, but in australia, dealers wont give you any difference in price on a bike that has upgrades or accessories than they would without. Those panniers for example, wouldn't effect the price theyu give you, but when they go sell it they will ask more .
Interesting. Hope the KLR sells easily.
Love these bikes, i have a 2022. No issues yet. (3000km)
Test ride off road at Emma Long moto park, you're in the area😁
My ES700 was an impulse purchase also!
Brillant bike i hope Spite
I would love to take this power plant and tech and put it in the old ktm sport quad and make an off-roading monster!
I hope no one tries to steal this one !!!
Does KTM have full bumper to bumper warranty or is it very limited?
I swear only spite has this luck with KTM! I've had my SMCR since 2022 and have 18K almost 19k on it with no issues. Idk what they he doing to those bikes in Texas
you ripped the spanakopita pronunciation! :D Greetings from Greece where windex is called Azax and yes we kinda use it everywhere !
Dead right about the KTM/GasGas comparison. I went to buy the GG and happily paid the extra for Orange. 👍
the super imposed bike on the thumbnail made me think you were getting at TW200. I kind of wish you did those are the coelacanths of trail bikes.
Love my 17 690 duke.
It will be in the shop more than the road
Yes we do let friends make mistakes... and we laugh while they make them... I love KTMs as long as you have another bike to ride wile its in the shop.
Hey Spite, have you rode a gasgas700?
Dude, keep the KLR. The headaches of all the high end shit is not worth it! Piston/rings at 50 hrs?????
Nice bike bro. How does it compare to tenere 700?
With all the issues that Spite had with his previous KTM (waiting forever to get replacement parts from Austria), I'm kinda surprised he's willing to go down the KTM rabbit-hole again.
I've been eyeing a Super Duke, but have heard some tales of maintenance woes. This unfortunately doesn't quell my fears 😬
Why didn’t you get the smcr? Don’t you ride mostly street?
Yes, but I also ride off road so I can do both with this.
It's never why do this.. it is Why haven't others done it. lol keep up the fun vids cheers.
duke 200's are a blast! ride one.
I almost bought some new Flying Eyes but I quickly backed out when I saw the eye watering price they charge for prescription. I can get transition lenses from Costco for half of what they charge for prescription. Oh well...
I miss my 701 SM too. No way I'd trade down my 1290 SAS back for it though. My 1290 is giving me everything my 701 wasn't.
The return of the king
Aaaaand he's rocking the big lawnmower again. 😢
I'm excitet for the review even if I don't like single cylinders.
No, the Versys 650 is a big lawnmower. The 690 is a big weedwhacker
I have a duke 200 and idk what you're saying... Its fun asf to rip round the neighbourhood on
Impressive bike! What's your take: would it be wiser to opt for an SMC R and equip it with off-road tires, or to go for an Enduro R and fit it with road tires instead?
From what I've heard it's harder to take the SMC-R and get it in dirt trim than it is to get the Enduro R in sumo trim. The only downside is I miss the crazy hot mode 2 on the SMC-R and the four pot front break. The two pot is fine though.
@@spitescorner Thanks! Thinking of going with an Enduro R too.
The clear windex with vinegar is better..., plastics don't like ammonia.
Pretty much can't trade in a bike anymore, unless its junk. Dealers wanna be able to make 25%+ on used these days... Dealer here wanted to give me $3k for my 2013 Vstar 1300 Tourer (9000mi new tires, battery, mint) when I bought my Chieftain. Those Vstars are selling used for $5.5-6.5k these days. I'll give it to my grandson or use it for a paperweight or something...
If you still have ammonia in your windex, it will clean almost anything.
That KLR still for sale? Genuinely interested
Yes it is. There's an email on the channel for you to reach out with inquires that's a direct line to me. It's the best way to get in touch.
Thanks boss man, I have a 2021 mt07 I'm trying to sell. If I can get cash for it asap I will shoot you an email. I really need a bike with big side bags like the klr it'd be perfect.
Just got the '23 690 smc r...300 miles...
No leaks ...yet.....
Already did the m6 x 1.0 x 25mm
bypass trick...better already...
Wheelies even better than the mt09
What mod is that? I've never heard of it. I've been out of the 690 community for a while now
@@spitescorner ...rear abs/tc bypass..
Replace stock with that m6 bolt..
Bolt then sensor then m6 nut ...install back in the speed sensor housing...viola
No need to mess with TC or ABS As they are officially disabled.....pain in the ass to hold that TC button for exactly 5 seconds...
I disconect all nannies on all bikes
Shred Stone Adventures has a quick tutorial
It's a 2 minute process
@@spitescorner edit..20 mm length not 25
get a slip on and rottweiler o2 dongle ... you'll feel a difference and runs cooler
@@796andy2 ....rt on.....thinking yoshi exhaust...o2 dongie....rottweiler intake and emissions delete....dint think I'll need pc6..
Just got back from a ride...most fun mofo
I've ever had......I've had some killer bikes in the last 30 yrs.....reminds me of the old....
Cr 500 2 stroke...but streetable
ES700 is almost the same bike (silver rims, Conti tyres while tin the UK the KTM has Mitas EO7) but a good bit cheaper.
But will it fit in the van? Or does it have to live outside on the carrier like the KLR did?
And I'll fight you over that Duke 200 comment. I just picked one up as a cheap commuter & it's a hoot! It's Grom levels of fun on a "full size" bike that my fat arse can actually ride at the speed limit & beyond on every road here in Australia. Plus it's in the cheapest category for registration & insurance over here.
My 200 finally kicked the bucket after 50k+ commuting, followed by another 20k doing food delivery duties. To say it had a hard life would be an understatement! Such a fun little bike, and the fastest I've ever ridden through the commute's twisties. If I still commuted I'd happily buy another. 😉
The 690 is much more fun, though! 😎
@@thefathippy Good to know. I'm about to move & was concerned about the longer commute. My big bike is fun, but there's nothing better than riding a slow bike fast.
Bought a KTM 390 adv and immediately had issues including the engine shutting off when I pulled the clutch in and it not wanting to cold start. Bike spent a ton of time at the shop which they never covered through warranty. Swore off KTMs ever since.
What is hanging underneath the bike? :D
A gremlin bell that doesn't work apparently 😂
Orange won babeeeeey. 😆Grats on the new bike to the stable. Enjoy it!