surely 2 grids could have handled the weight of this train without a darth on the rear of it! Nice to see original screaming grids still earning a living on our uk mainline nice video 😍
@@heuhen Not all UK diesels were capable of MU control - which is why I asked. E.g the 47 & 48 weren't built with MU capability. As I recall the 50's were of the first to be built with MU capability, although not all were fitted. South African electrics and diesels have always been built with MU capability, right back to the 1E's in 1926.
Thanks for that information. That was my guess but it's good to have somebody say it was Preston. Preston was the first station where I boarded a train - to go on holiday in the early 1950s.
Yes, a lot of the time - I've waited at Bamber Bridge level crossing sometimes while 'the logs' went by, with my fish and chips going cold! The video shows Preston, so WCML from Carlisle and not S&C on this occasion
Was that supposed to be a big train or something? A single GE or EMD could have led that with no issues. Also, double heading would mean that both engines are being crewed. otherwise its just a consist
Only need one crewe, the other one act like twins to the lead loco. UK doesn't operate big trains, they are not crossing an entire continent, where it is more efficient to transport everything by train. UK is small enough that a combination of trucks, trains, and boats are more than enough. Secondly, goods trains, running on rails in UK, have to keep up with normal passenger trains. that means they need to be able to get up in speed, very fast and also be able to hold an high speed to. Here in Norway, where gods train operate on the mainlines, those gods trains accelerate like a metro-train and operate at the same speed as passenger trains (60-100 mph), the acceleration are so fast, that when the last train-wagon leave the station area, it is already up in speed. And Norwegian trains are longer than some of the common UK trains, and they are pulled over the mountains, by a single electric train. Those that are used in Norway develop from 5500hp to over 7000 hp in a single unit. Except for the train up in North Norway, it is among the top 10 most powerful train, but it moves Iron ore, over the mountains, from Sweden.
A single class 56 could handle this with ease but the second 56 is for reliability reasons on a busy network and the class 70 was just hitching a ride, the 70 wasn't powered up.
The train is heading south through Preston. Probably coming from Forestry Commission estates in Scotland. Going south [laden], it is hauled by two class 56, when returning [empty] one class 70 will suffice. Presumably no turn / run round at the loading point. About 1,500 tonnes of wood IME.
@@r.markclayton4821Working starts and is loaded at Carlisle NY, one class 70 can haul the train when loaded but sometimes 2 class 56s are used, also must be a run around because normally there is no loco on the back.
And roughly this amount of logs is on each Mostly daily service near where I live on the clitheroe line, usually pulled by a single class 70 and 2 days ago had 2 class 56's on it!
Imagine that lot going by road!
This is the way to shift stuff!
I'm Canadian. Heh.
Totally agree...need more railfreight!
Then gets moved by road to the factories.
No, goes straight to the factory at Chirk, North Wales. @@oddities-whatnot
surely 2 grids could have handled the weight of this train without a darth on the rear of it! Nice to see original screaming grids still earning a living on our uk mainline nice video 😍
56s. Not really wanted by EWS/DB, but many of them still earning a crust. That was some train.
and not assimilated into class69's.
Super video of the log train!
It's logs! Everyone loves logs!
i live really close to preston, really annoyed that i missed that.
Great catch
Good driver respect for blowing his horn for you . 😊
Thanks 👍
We still export Willow wood to India for cricket bat manufacture, I think this looks like some
It was LBW, in that case. Locos Before Wood.
@@ColinH1973 nice! 😂
6J37 Carlisle Yard - Chirk (Kronospan) to be exact. JG.
🦺⭐️👌 and a 70 on the back. Storming
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Would all 3 locos be crewed? Or can they mu and control the banker by radio?
you only need one crew for the entire train, something that have been done since diesel trains was introduced, so since the 60's
@@heuhen Not all UK diesels were capable of MU control - which is why I asked. E.g the 47 & 48 weren't built with MU capability. As I recall the 50's were of the first to be built with MU capability, although not all were fitted. South African electrics and diesels have always been built with MU capability, right back to the 1E's in 1926.
It was Preston railway station was I've downloaded it
Thanks for that information. That was my guess but it's good to have somebody say it was Preston. Preston was the first station where I boarded a train - to go on holiday in the early 1950s.
Would be nice to know where this is
looks like Preston
Preston. I drive the route daily.
Preston
Do these go via the S & C line?
Yes, a lot of the time - I've waited at Bamber Bridge level crossing sometimes while 'the logs' went by, with my fish and chips going cold! The video shows Preston, so WCML from Carlisle and not S&C on this occasion
Was that supposed to be a big train or something? A single GE or EMD could have led that with no issues.
Also, double heading would mean that both engines are being crewed. otherwise its just a consist
Only need one crewe, the other one act like twins to the lead loco.
UK doesn't operate big trains, they are not crossing an entire continent, where it is more efficient to transport everything by train. UK is small enough that a combination of trucks, trains, and boats are more than enough.
Secondly, goods trains, running on rails in UK, have to keep up with normal passenger trains. that means they need to be able to get up in speed, very fast and also be able to hold an high speed to.
Here in Norway, where gods train operate on the mainlines, those gods trains accelerate like a metro-train and operate at the same speed as passenger trains (60-100 mph), the acceleration are so fast, that when the last train-wagon leave the station area, it is already up in speed. And Norwegian trains are longer than some of the common UK trains, and they are pulled over the mountains, by a single electric train. Those that are used in Norway develop from 5500hp to over 7000 hp in a single unit. Except for the train up in North Norway, it is among the top 10 most powerful train, but it moves Iron ore, over the mountains, from Sweden.
A single class 56 could handle this with ease but the second 56 is for reliability reasons on a busy network and the class 70 was just hitching a ride, the 70 wasn't powered up.
Where was this coming from
The train is heading south through Preston. Probably coming from Forestry Commission estates in Scotland.
Going south [laden], it is hauled by two class 56, when returning [empty] one class 70 will suffice.
Presumably no turn / run round at the loading point.
About 1,500 tonnes of wood IME.
Apparently 6J37 Carlisle to Chirk Kronospan
@@r.markclayton4821Working starts and is loaded at Carlisle NY, one class 70 can haul the train when loaded but sometimes 2 class 56s are used, also must be a run around because normally there is no loco on the back.
Preston?
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That's a lot of Logs
And roughly this amount of logs is on each Mostly daily service near where I live on the clitheroe line, usually pulled by a single class 70 and 2 days ago had 2 class 56's on it!
Yes, it wood beggar beleaf.
It was a forest 5 days ago!
It`s going to the Swan Vesta factory 😂😂 Might have been going to Kronospan at Chirk .
booked via Hellifield but, as in this video, sometimes goes via Preston. Went via Hellifield today