When I buy a Toyota, I don't want the interior wearing out after 12 months. I much prefer the hard wearing materials, its way more reassuring then soft leather that fades and splits just as the warranty expires. Rangers look nice, for 12 months, then they look like a tired taxi and need replacing. Not so for Hilux. But it is about to be replaced in 2025 so it is old now, but it didn't just become crap all of a sudden, it could just continue to improve, as it will very shortly.
Bloody awesome review and great to hear your REAL opinions and what YOU would buy. That's why I come here. Love the realistic approach you have. Best review site in Oz!
Toyota being old school is perfectly fine, but this doesn't explain their inflated pricing. I also wonder whether they are really generally reliable. The HiLux - yes ... after all these years - but e.g. the RAV4 has a rather mediocre reliability score in Europe. Maybe their reliability comes from historically very short service intervals. 6 months/10k is on the verge of overservicing (by the standards of other manufacturers).
Nice video mate, some crazy utes out there now but this is still the one I want the most 😅 currently driving a 1999 Toyota Prado that’s a car I can rely on.
Agree, there's a reason they can charge top dollar for them and they stay as the top seller. You can buy a crappy chinese ute for cheaper, but the safe money buys the Hilux.
That would be great. The next-gen model is set to to be based on a modified version of the 300's platform (TNGA-F), which means it could technically adopt the V6.
I have a 48v Sr5 I am impressed with the extra power it gives. The stop start feature is very smooth when it activates. It starts smoothly when going from brake to accelerator even when doing it quickly. Happy with it after only 5000km I do wish you could fold up all the back seats but you can’t as the 48v battery is under the seat and you can’t access it. I also found that you don’t have a place under the bonnet for a second battery which also disappoints me but all round happy with the vehicle.
The DPF issue was more than just city driving. The location of the 5th injector and early programming of the DPF burn also contributed. Toyota updated the software in late 2018 and redesigned the 5th injector housing in 2020. All fixed now on this model but they did screw it up first time. Ex 2018 Hilux owner.
18 yrs old my first vehicle back in 1984 was a Toyota corona 1976 horrible body roll but never let me down, 35 years as a plumber I had a hiace 1994 and honestly the pain I put that through , but never let me down, I’m now on my 4th hilux no frills always an SR i can’t speak highly enough of there reputation. Yes they lag on inside comfort ride and tech but reliability and capability for its purpose unmatched , and for what I want it’s a no brainer. *side note when you come to complete stop on an incline the car holds the brake on for 4 secs after you let your foot off the brake to accelerate releasing as soon as you hit the accelerator on my auto transmission(not sure if it’s available on the manual).
lol everyone wants to go there but really its nothing special, all up takes 5 minutes to do that very small section. **wink**wink** hey Bret its somewhere north west of Newcastle :) lol.
Yep ive known some people buying the Hilux (or other utes) even if they dont really need the tub for anything. I own both Hilux and Fortuner and the latter is definitely more comfortable to live in with. Yes the Fortuner is nowhere the most comfortable in its class, but its still more civilized than its ute brother.
Not an expert or anything but maybe the battery is there for those stop & go situations where the engine gets multiple stops & starts consecutively. I hate those systems when it's on a conventional starter. These mild hybrids are built for those
Nah I’ll pass on this, technology and safety 5 years behind its competitors. No wonder the Ford Ranger outsells Hilux. And now with the Chinese Utes making entry in the market offering class leading warranties and value for money.
G'day, great video. Toyota initially denied the DPF issue was their fault hence 2 BILLION dollar Class Action which they lost. A you-tuber 4xOverland who is a Toyota fan had an issue with premature brake disc wear which Toyota fobbed off. The 200 series Land cruiser had an air filter box issue, where dust would bypass the filter and stuffed the engine which Toyota denied was an issue, and then did the same design in the 300 series. There are other issues with other models and years which some research will uncover but that's besides the point. The point is that every vehicle regardless of manufacturer seems to have an issue of some type, the trick is to find a vehicle that best fits your criteria, then discover the inherent issues the vehicle has and find out if there is an aftermarket solution or decide if you can live with it.
The ‘new’ v6 in the r’anger’ is actually the old dinosaur that was fitted to the territory and landrovers with a bit of a refresh. So you can expect rangers to be blowing engines just as often as gearboxes in the future 😂
related to not the same design. The major changes between the 2.7L and the 3.0L are? Graphite iron block redesigned crank, bearings and oil pump and pick up Intake ports are redesigned for more flow the exhaust manifolds have bypass ports for the "scavenger" turbo unlike the cross over port the 2.7L has the 2.7L has a VGT (variable geometry) turbo, the 3.0 has a scavenger (re: twin scroll) turbo and can be upgraded to twin turbo for the next spec update if ned be (which most likely will happen). The other big change is not using a plastic intake plenum the 3.0L uses alloy plenum. These "lion V6" engines were used in the big boy F150 for at least 3 years in this spec prior Ranger and from US fleet reports for F150 turbo diesel not much goes wrong, the 10-speed n the other hand ...
you my friend are a toyota fan boy,,, nothing wrong with it,, i am too.. but you just made every negative aspect of toyota sound as problem of others....sounds like as per you,, if youre not a tradie or a worker ,, youre not supposed to buy a UTE.. in todays time, there are more companies making new ute's is because an office goer likes to have an idea of having as ute.. and that is ok.. its his money... To the money .. what Ford Ranger has to offer is quite significantly better than Toyota... Mitsubishi, Navara, Ford, Isuzu even KIA now are catering to everyone .... not just the tradies... Toyota is amazing.. HILUX - THE KING... but 2024 , people are tired of interiors of 2000's old corolla... if they improve... can you imagine HILUX will RULE... There is no one to Beat TOYOTA
@@abhijoseph3761 I don’t own a Toyota and probably never will as they don’t make anything that suits me. But I am a fan of good products, regardless of the badge. From what I can see here this seems no fuss, and very durable and capable, which is perfect for its target market and purpose in my opinion.
These things are so 90's still.... Maybe a strut system bonnet with a backup stick will please the diehards.... The "mild hybrid" system weight uses more fuel so whats the benefit of having it.
Correction: The MTS (Multi-Terrain Select) system does actually offer a 'sand' mode.
When I buy a Toyota, I don't want the interior wearing out after 12 months. I much prefer the hard wearing materials, its way more reassuring then soft leather that fades and splits just as the warranty expires. Rangers look nice, for 12 months, then they look like a tired taxi and need replacing. Not so for Hilux. But it is about to be replaced in 2025 so it is old now, but it didn't just become crap all of a sudden, it could just continue to improve, as it will very shortly.
Bloody awesome review and great to hear your REAL opinions and what YOU would buy. That's why I come here. Love the realistic approach you have. Best review site in Oz!
Toyota didn't become a trillion dollar company by chance....
Exactly.......They could be liken to McDonald's.
It's average at best, but you know what you are going to get.
And the most indebted company in the world with their assets value depleting each 1/4
@@jeppo1185but McDonalds is crap haha
@@sassall4284 🤣
Good review ,thank you.
SOOOO glad my Toyota doesnt have a huge screen 🎉❤
toyota had mild hybrid for the Crown taxi cars in japan , and those units lasted 700,000 km no problem on original battery and unit
Good one mate 👍
Dmax owner here. Just saying.... Hilux is good. But I love my Dmax. Mine has taken me everywhere I have wanted to go and back without missing a beat.
Toyota being old school is perfectly fine, but this doesn't explain their inflated pricing. I also wonder whether they are really generally reliable. The HiLux - yes ... after all these years - but e.g. the RAV4 has a rather mediocre reliability score in Europe. Maybe their reliability comes from historically very short service intervals. 6 months/10k is on the verge of overservicing (by the standards of other manufacturers).
Good honest review. Thanks Brett
Nice video mate, some crazy utes out there now but this is still the one I want the most 😅 currently driving a 1999 Toyota Prado that’s a car I can rely on.
Great review. Will be ordering my Rogue very soon
How do you keep the lenses of the external camera so clean?
Agree, there's a reason they can charge top dollar for them and they stay as the top seller. You can buy a crappy chinese ute for cheaper, but the safe money buys the Hilux.
Those Chinese Utes are tempting to purchase due to the price and cheapness, but who knows about reliability. Reliability is why people bug Hilux’s
The people who do buy cheap Chinese Utes feel the burn later once it stops working and they get sick of the terrible driving dynamics
Gas hood supports will wear out. A hood rod will never wear out.
This awesome review was quite enjoyable. Cheers buddy.
@@Malc664 Thanks 👍
why dont they offer the Landcruiser engine in it too??
That would be great. The next-gen model is set to to be based on a modified version of the 300's platform (TNGA-F), which means it could technically adopt the V6.
Would love to see you buy a ute and build it up a bit. Would be good to watch someone getting into it fresh
I have a 48v Sr5 I am impressed with the extra power it gives. The stop start feature is very smooth when it activates. It starts smoothly when going from brake to accelerator even when doing it quickly. Happy with it after only 5000km I do wish you could fold up all the back seats but you can’t as the 48v battery is under the seat and you can’t access it. I also found that you don’t have a place under the bonnet for a second battery which also disappoints me but all round happy with the vehicle.
The DPF issue was more than just city driving. The location of the 5th injector and early programming of the DPF burn also contributed. Toyota updated the software in late 2018 and redesigned the 5th injector housing in 2020. All fixed now on this model but they did screw it up first time. Ex 2018 Hilux owner.
I’m considering the new GR Hilux but live in urban Sydney. This is my only concern about buying new diesels. Should I be worried?
@khoaluu4934 why buy a ute for city?
18 yrs old my first vehicle back in 1984 was a Toyota corona 1976 horrible body roll but never let me down, 35 years as a plumber I had a hiace 1994 and honestly the pain I put that through , but never let me down, I’m now on my 4th hilux no frills always an SR i can’t speak highly enough of there reputation.
Yes they lag on inside comfort ride and tech but reliability and capability for its purpose unmatched , and for what I want it’s a no brainer. *side note when you come to complete stop on an incline the car holds the brake on for 4 secs after you let your foot off the brake to accelerate releasing as soon as you hit the accelerator on my auto transmission(not sure if it’s available on the manual).
@@garyrogers5344 Great stuff. Thanks for the insight.
desde la Patagonia ...la hilux mecánica SI tiene el control de retención ...gran maquina...saludos
Great video buddy 👍
Where do you do your 4WD testing looks like a great spot.
lol everyone wants to go there but really its nothing special, all up takes 5 minutes to do that very small section.
**wink**wink** hey Bret its somewhere north west of Newcastle :) lol.
I have a 2023 povo pack workmate dual cab. I live on acreage does the job ok.
Waiting for my Rouge in October 😊
Ppl buy utes to look tough. Most are at my local shopping center
Yep ive known some people buying the Hilux (or other utes) even if they dont really need the tub for anything. I own both Hilux and Fortuner and the latter is definitely more comfortable to live in with. Yes the Fortuner is nowhere the most comfortable in its class, but its still more civilized than its ute brother.
thumbs up Bret for the review.
I agree if you never use the tub then buy the 4x4 Wagon version re: Fortuna instead.
is the mountain top waterproof
Not an expert or anything but maybe the battery is there for those stop & go situations where the engine gets multiple stops & starts consecutively.
I hate those systems when it's on a conventional starter. These mild hybrids are built for those
Yep, good point and you're probably right. The stop-start function is very smooth with the generator.
Nah I’ll pass on this, technology and safety 5 years behind its competitors. No wonder the Ford Ranger outsells Hilux. And now with the Chinese Utes making entry in the market offering class leading warranties and value for money.
G'day, great video. Toyota initially denied the DPF issue was their fault hence 2 BILLION dollar Class Action which they lost. A you-tuber 4xOverland who is a Toyota fan had an issue with premature brake disc wear which Toyota fobbed off. The 200 series Land cruiser had an air filter box issue, where dust would bypass the filter and stuffed the engine which Toyota denied was an issue, and then did the same design in the 300 series. There are other issues with other models and years which some research will uncover but that's besides the point. The point is that every vehicle regardless of manufacturer seems to have an issue of some type, the trick is to find a vehicle that best fits your criteria, then discover the inherent issues the vehicle has and find out if there is an aftermarket solution or decide if you can live with it.
The cavernous areas underneath these trucks means lots of aerodynamic drag making it suck fuel on the highway.
drove the Hollis for a few weeks felt so slow under hard acceleration
I want dependability, simplicity, confidence that I know it will last the test of time. Not gimmicks, gadgets and a soft dash. Am fine with V-Active.
With this review im going by rouge 48v or maybe not. But rouge is better than gr just gotta upgrqde tyres
The ‘new’ v6 in the r’anger’ is actually the old dinosaur that was fitted to the territory and landrovers with a bit of a refresh. So you can expect rangers to be blowing engines just as often as gearboxes in the future 😂
related to not the same design.
The major changes between the 2.7L and the 3.0L are?
Graphite iron block
redesigned crank, bearings and oil pump and pick up
Intake ports are redesigned for more flow
the exhaust manifolds have bypass ports for the "scavenger" turbo unlike the cross over port the 2.7L has
the 2.7L has a VGT (variable geometry) turbo, the 3.0 has a scavenger (re: twin scroll) turbo and can be upgraded to twin turbo for the next spec update if ned be (which most likely will happen).
The other big change is not using a plastic intake plenum the 3.0L uses alloy plenum.
These "lion V6" engines were used in the big boy F150 for at least 3 years in this spec prior Ranger and from US fleet reports for F150 turbo diesel not much goes wrong, the 10-speed n the other hand ...
@@351tgv thanks I didn’t realise it had already seen service in the US. I’d still be wary being a ford!
@@351tgv thanks I didn’t realise it had already seen service in the US. I’d still be wary being a ford!
@@351tgv2.7 was also CGI block and the 3.0 also uses a plastic plenum
when was this filmed? Rouge's are at least 76k
@@Northstar_004 Current price, excluding on-road costs 👍
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia I see, thank you 🙏
I not a fan of the start stop system.
you my friend are a toyota fan boy,,, nothing wrong with it,, i am too.. but you just made every negative aspect of toyota sound as problem of others....sounds like as per you,, if youre not a tradie or a worker ,, youre not supposed to buy a UTE.. in todays time, there are more companies making new ute's is because an office goer likes to have an idea of having as ute.. and that is ok.. its his money... To the money .. what Ford Ranger has to offer is quite significantly better than Toyota... Mitsubishi, Navara, Ford, Isuzu even KIA now are catering to everyone .... not just the tradies... Toyota is amazing.. HILUX - THE KING... but 2024 , people are tired of interiors of 2000's old corolla... if they improve... can you imagine HILUX will RULE... There is no one to Beat TOYOTA
@@abhijoseph3761 I don’t own a Toyota and probably never will as they don’t make anything that suits me. But I am a fan of good products, regardless of the badge. From what I can see here this seems no fuss, and very durable and capable, which is perfect for its target market and purpose in my opinion.
I got 3 toyotas. All solid af. Every used ranger i get into always sounds like it’s about to blow up. Rangers dont last man.
These things are so 90's still.... Maybe a strut system bonnet with a backup stick will please the diehards.... The "mild hybrid" system weight uses more fuel so whats the benefit of having it.
I hate stop /start just that would be enough to not make me buy it
An auto electrician can fix that issue.... made my switch a toggle on off so it stayed off like on a fighter jet !
Or just leave the idle up button open
To expensive as all top end utes
My daihatsu charade can smash that track faster than that old slow toyota
8 seconds 80-110....
Read it again, 60-110, and that’s plenty to merge on highways.