Necrons Vs Tyranids Who Would Win Warhammer40k
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- Necrons Vs Tyranids Who Would Win Warhammer40k
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I agree that if it came to a conflict between the two races, the necrons would win purely by dint of outlasting their opponents. Tyranids may be insanely strong but they have biological needs that the necrons just don't.
yup Tyranids could win battles but eventually attrition would get to them and the Nekrons would win the war
obviously you don't know about tzarekh. the silent king left the galaxy 65 million years ago but only returned recently because of the nids. think about what that says about the tyranid threat which is clearly billions of years old. the ultimate threat to all life including daemonic, organic and non organic (necron, transformers, c'tan).
Trollzyn/Trazyn correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the silent king go and fight the nids in a different galaxy, alone.
Tyranids are organized Orcs on steroids, while the Necrons last forever compared to regular lifeforms. If it comes down to time Tyranids lose, if it comes down to raw strength we won't know til the writers decide to quantify the numbers both sides have. We know that most Necrons are still sleeping, and we guess that all encountered Tyranids are nothing more then scouts... Bonus curveball: Tyranids may have specialized anti Machine-lifeform Tyranid organisms we just haven't encountered yet (lorewise we only know that little is known about what types of Tyranids are REALLY out there).
Binidj exactly
Ironically enough it was a battle between necrons and tyranids that got me into 40k, it was back when I was in secondary school (high school) I'd never heard of 40k or seen it before, but one day some of the older kids came in to the "social club" which was just a place for nerdy kids who didn't wanna play out side to hang out. One had tyranids and the other Necrons, I was instantly drawn to the Necrons, I sat there and watched them play, asking questions and no dout irritating the player some what, being a dum kid at the time, pestering the older kids. But they let me watch and once they had finished the Necron player even gave me a Necron warrior! As a starter for my own army, for my 14th birthday that year I got my first Necron army, been hooked ever since.
J Cummins heretics
J Cummins the first game I ever played was a necrons vs tyranids fight
Same here, I got into Necrons first as well, and my first real battle was against Tyranids. Got my ass kicked, but following that defeat I restructured my forces and they were undefeated at that store ever since (never got a rematch against the guy sadly)
You think that a lot of people out there would at least get engrossed into the lore universe and not the game itself?
That story hit me right in the feels
"When the end times come, it will be the Necrons, and the Tyranids"
My bet is on Orks.
😂😂😂ghazghul Thrakaaaaaargh
Ork or the imperial guard
There will always be chaos, BLOD FOR THE BLOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE.
@@audunms4780 but necrons came be corrupted because they have no souls and tyranids can't be corrupted because they have no free will.
@@torinjones3221 BLOOOOOOOOOOOOD.
The real question is.
Would the tyranids even acknowledge the necrons exist? Especially since the necrons are anathemic to the warp and might not register as food or even a threat unless they attack the tyranids. By the time the tyranids eat the entire galaxy a significant amount of necrons would be awake, and would probably just get combed over. The creepy ones that cover themself in blood and human skin will just have to do with getting a spit shining. And since the necrons don't care about scorching every planet they come across it seems unlikely that this would even be a fight.
Seems like the necrons would just sit back on an airless moon and be like DO YOU SEE THE PUNY ANT THINGS GET EATEN BY THE BIG ANT THINGS? I FIND THIS FUNNY, BECAUSE THINGS ARE DYING SOI SOI SOI SOI.
Maybe. A genestealer on a ship can land on a Necron tomb world, and tell the hive fleet "Hey, there's things here. There's also biomass on the planet." The biomass could be a massive amount of titanic life forms, or trees, or something.
Nar it depends on the overlord. One necron lord mad decide to help the smaller races because they are board and you have to have to have leaders to be an overlord so they'd help the younger races like the helped the world of Gythos when they were invaded by chaos.
Good point. A smart Necron leader would just decide to wait a few million years til the Tyranids have eaten EVERYTHING and died out or left for another galaxy. What's the worst that could happen? Necrons want everything dead anyways. :D
If the Necrons did not engage the Tyranids there would be no fight. The Tyranids only target biomass, the Tyranids only fought the chaos demons because they were attacked. Before that the Tyranids did not even acknowledge them being threat much less an entity at all.
I agree, would they even fight? The tyranids only attack organic material, and the necrons only have a problem with advanced sentient life. Since the sentient part of the tyranids is not even present on an invasion they might not even attack. They might even just let the tyranids do the dirty work for them and take over the ashes. necrons do not need habitable planets, at least not to the degree we do
This is everything I needed to stroke my massive Necron Ego
Necrons are badass.
Black Baron the baddest
*Gotta say they are*
Tech freaks that got enslaved because of their greed to become emortal
No matter how meny tyranids they kill there will always be more and more and more and one day the last NEC will die
@@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas4504 or they just go to sleep as nids devour the whole universe besides necrons and eventually die from not eating any more biomass. Necrons win over time.
@@polpeeniz4397 The art of fighting without fighting.
Pfft, sly Marbo beats all
madmanlolz Sly Marbo has to be one of the lost primarchs. He can conquer a planet with a toothpick
Indeed, Sly Marbo>All Gods combined.
Why didn't he become the emperor yet is a mystery.
Kusakabe Shinhoto, In the background, all I can hear rogal dorn saying “no”
Not Indrick Boreal?
Lets just say their is a reason why the Tyranid hive fleets avoid world's
Those world's almost always turn out to be tomb worlds
Or Catachan.
question: can a dreadnought do a backflip???
No but a nercon warscythe can do a barel roll.
Yeah, with the help of a carnifex.
depends, is it in DOW III?
you cant backflip either 😂
I know they can ride a wave
Easy, the tyranids will start seeding orks for food.
Tyranid agricultural revolution
@@keiranferrier3642 well it's green so it might mean healthy for you
This gives Soylent Green a totally new meaning.
He said when only tyranids and necrons were left
or the do what hey do. adapt. to think they would not be able to assimilate the necrons is just silly, and to think they wouldn't be able to adapt to process hostile non-habitable world is also silly.
The necrons would have to basically dust everything to ensure that they would not be able to gather resources. By this time, unless the necrons single handidly destroy every other race then the Tyrranids would also have eldar, ork, primaris, and chaos assimilated tyrannids to deal with.
4:39 i was not expecting that...
Necrons be like: "I ain't got a soul but I'm still a soldier"
There is no ultimate answer to who would win. Yes Necrons counter Tyranids pretty hard, but a) nobody knows what kind of crazy tyranid types are out there (we only know that we know little about the Tyranids) and b) the actual amount of Tyranids is unknown as well (there COULD be a million times more Tyranids waiting to invade the galaxy). The main question is simply: is it worth it to fight such a wasteful war against the Necrons? The Hivemind could just decide to invade another galaxy with less local resistance.
I am confident that the hivemind could find a way to devour living metal and repurpose it. As their are insects whose shelps are part metal, I think the hivemind could pull a similar job.
Alpha Swarmlord But he just said it would have no value. If they already have re enforced chiten then don't need the metal.
devouring the living metal would mean killing the necron. And yet potentially hivemind could put 100 tyranids per necron continuously eating his regenerating metal while blocking his arms from fighting.
Actually yeah, necron are not strong in melee, they could be disarmed and put in a lockdown from tyranids. Not sure if they can teleport if they are literally under hundreds of beings
Yeah thats if they could eat the metal. And yes they can teleport. In tabletop, when close to death the recall back to their hidden chambers to regenerate. Hardly any necrons ever die. and if one does die on the battle field. It would make a huge explosion killing everything around it.
i know they can teleport, not sure what will happen to all the tyranids on them, if all teleported together since they are touching and eating they are kind of part of it for any teleporting mechanism in sci-fi.
If not eating they will easily disarm and immobilize.
If not digest they can just eat it necrometal since they are more than capable to cut it they can just store it in their stomaches to avoid regeneration.
It's almost suicidal and unconventional but necron numbers are limited and tyranids are not, they could deploy one million per necron as far as we know and that would easily immobilize
One thing to remember about Gauss, It does not actually fire toward an enemy, it pulls from the enemy. Its essentially a power ionic/magnetic weapon, it pulls molecules apart through sheer magnetic force. The hint to its nature is in the name. How they accomplish this is another matter entirely.
Sci-fi writers have a horrible sense of scale, so the numbers quoted for the Tyrannides are so ridiculously large that they outnumber the necrons at least a million to one. Not that it seems to matter much since a couple dozen Space Marine chapters numbering around a thousand soldiers each seem to win something like a tenth of all battles fought in the galaxy.
I think nearly all sifi writers have a terrible sense of scale. There is also an annoying and unnecessary tendency to up the scale constantly because they believe that escalation is important to a story.
basicly it's lawful vs chaotic evil
ok yea you've convinced me
you've changed my mind
Organic vs Inorganic or more simply the cliche, Life vs Death. How do you determine good or evil in this situation? Both sides want peace but only through the destruction of other side. The only "good" side would be one that allows other races to live too which neither one is.
@@yuomovaeh3028 while technically tyranids are alive i think the whole life verse death isnt really accurate due to how little the tyranids value life compared to just straight up biomatter. Plus from the little i know about the necrons compare to what i know about the tyranids is that its almost ironic that the livng tyranids seem more mechanical and detached from "living" than the necrons who from what i understand have the consciousness of living beings within them despite being totally mechanical.
I guess really tyranids are just eating survival machines except instead of being made out of metal theyre made of living tissue
Necrons have to be the worst matchup for tyranids; Necrons have no biomass for them to consume, and necron gauss flayers destroy organic matter entirely, meaning the hive fleet wont even be able to harvest their own dead troops. Add to that that Necrons may have motives to attack tyranids due to them attacking and destroying the lesser races they could use to recover orgaic bodies, but tyranids would have little interest in attacking necrons as their world are often void of life down to the bacteriological level. Tyranids are not a direct threat to the Necrons, but they can threaten the necron's objectives by consuming all organic races.
Tyranids will never beat the necrons as a race.. but they may also be too numerous to be stopped before eating everything, even by the necrons; after all the necrons are organic creatures that were transformed, and there is a finite number of them without any reproduction possible... each necron warrior killed for good, will never be replaced, while tyranids have reserves beyond understanding. After all, they spooked the silent king enough that he came back from his exile due to the threat they represent to the races necrons could use.
Not to mention uncompletely destroyed necrons can resurrect
Great summary!
Question: How can any race stand against Necrons?
They seem too advanced and powerful..
@@wenixandqwert the only way a race can stand against the necrons is if they are all Machines aswell
@@SWY1356 So how do "young races" have victories against them?
Hell how do they even give them trouble?
I remember in either an older necron or tyranid codex it mentioned that a hive fleet completely avoided a necron tomb world due to the psychic dampening field that it produced. I don't know if they have retconned that or not but the necron would completely disrupt the hive minds control over the swarm if they have not.
Fun thought, easily one of the coolest match ups in 40k. I like to think that both sides have quite the capasity for near endless conflict. I mean necrons can potentially reconstruct their fallen indefinetly. Tyranids on the other hand have so much clouding their origin it's possible they are combing other galaxies of organic life, cleaning up the old ones other mistakes... or not. But given the potential for the length of such a war to be drawn out over millenia, I'd like to think that the tyranids have the advantage in the long run. Sheer chance over extended periods of time could give the nids, as others have put it, the ability to distroy, consume or even adopt necrodermis in a way that is usefull. All in all, an epic clash of behemoths... I meam krakens... I mean, ah fuck it.
No the necroderm cannot be consumed the Kroots tried on the planet Caroch when a plague of nanoscarab swept through the ranks of the kroot certain kroot had eaten nanoscarb and he the necroderm had burst out of their bodies and as the kroot are little almost the same as the tyrannids so we know the result
When he said "zombie con the movie", I heard "zombie condom movie"🤣
Question: If the tyranids ate the Emperor is there a chance that he could keep his conscious after he was absorbed into the hive? If he could, do you think he would attempt to take control of the hive or just fight enemies of humanity?
So to put it shortly.
*Immovable object(Necrons) vs Unstoppable force (Tyranids*
Question: What would happen to the Necron's advantage if a Doom of Malantie like Tyanid ate any one of the C'tan?
Oooo cool thought. I always thought that the doom was stupid powerful (in lore) that they decided to not write it in anymore.
FOR THE GLORY OF THE SILENT KING!
Love whenever y'all make content about Necrons, there's so little compared to the other races unfortunately. Can't wait for more Necron Lore/Theories/Anything!
Necrons were the first race I experienced and have always loved the idea of a wave of unstoppable machines of the undead crushing all in there path. Keep up the great content
Hey all, am new to the war hammer table top scene and absolutely love the concept of the necrons. Thanks to One Mind Syndicate for these informative videos and hours of entertainment!
Once again you guys really cleared up a lot of questions I have had about a race (Necrons) I've had an interest in but not taken the plunge to buy. Rather, I continuously expand my CSM army. Thanks again for the information and Inspiration!
Great video guys. Love the Necron lore!
Necrons would win hands down.
HereticalBLOODRAVENS!! Damn right
didn't necrons have like a doomsday machine that can just wipe out the galaxy with some iPhone gesture on their home planet?
indeed.
It's a massive map of the galaxy, they can pick a star and poof. However it has to be used carefully as there are consequences to its use.
Do you know the name of that weapon, and also what kind of consequences does it have?
"number one youre wrong, so sit down, be humble" LOL i died
great video guys, keep up the good work!
Awesome video, keep up the good work!
I am pretty sure Tyranids don't need that much food, due to traveling from outside the galaxy. Never hear about Necrons making new baby necrons. :D
I used play necron they are cool, reanimation protocol make it nasty to fight against them
Necrons be like :"Thats a nice kill streak you got there.......it be a shame if something were to......*happen* to it"
I've had a squad of warriors survive fire from an entire army and survive it.
These 40k videos are awesome! I've been considering starting a nid army. I've never played them before.
Dude, you're awsome!!!
I would like to see you make a video on seperate tombworlds of Necrons. You already did some videos on them, but nothing specific of their hierarchy teams or colour schemes... bit still tnx for your hard work!
I as a necron player and a friend as a tyranid player, we both came to the conclusion (according to lore) the tyranids would win, becouse there is a limited amount of necrons, where there are still many asleep, but the tyranids are a wave of aliens who we don't know where they came from, how many there are or even how far they are spread in the galaxy
The tyranids won't come after the necrons themselves becouse it isn't considered food, yet in the eyes of the necrons, the tyranids are the biggest treat
If all the necrons would be awake the necrons would be able to hold the tyranids of for a long time, but sinds we don't know the size of the tyranid race we can't tell if the necrons would be able to win in the end
Yes. I have always thought that no matter what was currently canon in the lore, it is so simple to say tyranids win by writing : turns put they outnumbered all life a trillion to one... and ate everything.
While Tyranids might win it is going to be a phyrric net loss
Also the necrons are capable of cutting the warp off from this reality with their pylons. If they managed to do so, the tyranids would fall apart since sinapse creatures control the tyranid armies via psychic communication. If the necrons cut off the warp, all of the tyranids would become feral and the hive fleets would fall apart.
Tyranid synapse doesn't come from the warp
@@lachlanfahy2429 all psyker abilities come from the warp. Tyranids are no exception. They just don't actively interact with it. They do call upon the warp in order to perform psyker abilities and yes, synapse is one of these. This is also mentioned in the codex 8th edition.
@@zanplays5308 synapse is a link to the hive mind that Tyranids have used before they first encountered the warp. Tyranids can tap into the warp to use psychic powers but their synapse is not dependant on the warp.
@@lachlanfahy2429 the synapse is a psychic ability and ALL psychic abilities tap into the warp. It doesn't matter if they encountered the warp or not. That's how the universe of 40k works. If you don't believe me, just read the 8th edition codex as I mentioned earlier instead of pointlessly arguing.
@@zanplays5308 the Tyranids had synapse before they encountered the warp. They came from between galaxies where there isn't any warp presence so no it isn't dependant on the warp
I'm looking forward for the next one.
Great narration!
The zombie con movie looks awesome! Cosplay heroes!
If Necrodermis is some kind of "undiscovered element" it must be some kind of high atomic weight, which would make it pretty good for fissile reactions assumedly. So what if Tyranids developed like a living nuclear fission generator that eats Necrons and burns necrodermis for fuel?
Well, sure, but so does eating planets. So it's just an alternate energy source than directly consuming biomass. Burning Necrons to generate more.
It could be in an "Island of stability" Where The elements are stable, among a sea of "unstable" elements.
fucked. The galaxy is fucked
More likely a compound assembled in a way we currently don't understand.
SImrobert2001
It could, which would imply it has a high atomic weight. It doesn't get any lighter than hydrogen.
Jeremy Pirt
Ignoring the possibility of it being a new element and calling that a red herring, it would need some kind of energy source in order to do what it does would it not? Surely the energy-bearing components can be stripped away through /some/ process, physical processes can almost always be run in reverse one way or another, and fed into a biological generator of some kind.
i'm all pumped up for the "robotzombies of Apophis VS Xenomorphs from Klendathu" movie
Keep up the good work! :D
My only concern is that this scenario makes 2 big assumptions:
1) That the Necrons across the entire galaxy are fully functional and unified in their efforts
2) That the Tyranids do not have orders of magnitude more forces available
If either of these two assumptions are wrong, the Tyranids could win simply though attrition as the Necrons are finite and cannot reproduce.
Of course we don't really have a good reason for these two races to go all out against each other anyway. The Tyranids can't eat the Necrons, and the Necrons could just claim the galaxy after the Tyranids have moved on... What do they care about the other races? ...Unless of course your theory about the Tyranids being an Old Ones bioweapon pans out, then a galaxy-wide conflict would be inevitable.
Mmh yeah there are some assumptions, but I think Necrons will still win. Their weapons are that advanced, that a simple soldier may even kill a Tyrannofex in a single shot. The weapon does not care about the size of its target (keep in mind the weapons on the table top are nerfed to keep balance). Same goes for the weapons on the starships. Necrons have a weapon called lightning arcs, and at least in the former version, this weapon once fired jumped from ship to ship, while becoming stronger. Necrons designed all their weaponary against living things, and when a necron is destroyed, they just teleport back to their tombes. Over all this is a war about luck, it mainly depends on the amount of tombworlds the necrons have still left, and if they encounter the hive fleets fast enough.
And also how much shit fuckery they are willingly to do with The Celestial Orrery...
A Random Clone Trooper oh yeah I forgot about that place...I guess if they supernova every star with life-sustaining planets around it, they can count it as a win... Sorta.
No need for that, just target the stars that have tyranids near it.
If you get a star that got like a major tendril of the hive fleet then you basically cripple the hive.
This is especially useful when dealing with the nids since their eggs arent spread out on a field but are placed in many baskets.
Reague of Regends you're absolutely right that the hive fleets actively avoid tomb worlds... But the bots are still finite even if they self repair. No matter how quick or efficiently they do self repair, it still requires time and resources. Not to mention functional tomb worlds to phase to and repair at. I'll be curious to see how Games Workshop develops this conflict so we can see who's theories pan out ;-)
I put my money on the Tyranids. Hell, the Silent King is scared of what they could do, and that guy fought during the War in Heaven, so if he could handle all that, whatever the Hive Mind is capable is nightmarish.
you misunderstood his fear, he isnt afraid of the tyranids, he is afraid that the tyranids will clean house in the milky way and leave necrons without the means to return to flesh, so he is coming back to wake up the whole necron race so they can deal with the bugs because he doesnt trust "lesser" races to do it properly
Good to see your getting far more comfortable in your role. Keep it up.
Hey guys long time watcher avid fan, i was wondering would you ever consider doing a video introducing your warhammer collections? And maybe talking about why you chose those troops?or even playing a game against each other? Thanks again for the awesome content.
I don't know if you guys did a video about this Orks vs Necrons who wins? If not the idea stays.
My bet is on the Necrons.
Good arguements. A little biased towards the Necrons but you did say you like them more so its all good.
Scenarios to think about would be:
Tyranids come in a massive wave making it impossible to clease all worlds of life in their path.
Tyranids develop a bio acid that prevents necrodermus regen. They already have acid spit that melts spacemarine armor and claws that shred terminator armor like its a joke.
Tyranids send scouting fleets to billions of planets to track tombworlds and dissolve the sleeping necron before they can be awakened.
The necrons have some pretty clear advantages but the nids have more of a chance than you think.
They replenish their biomass by consuming planets but they also travel in massive fleets that already brings biomass with them. They may look like dumb bugs but they are controlled by an intelligence that understands logistics and can plan accordingly.
The necron can run from them while destroying planets, but do they have the numbers to cover half of the galaxy if the tyranids come in a giant spreading wave? You are assumimg they would have only one clear front line in this war...what if 20 fleets attacked from 20 different angles?
If we are assuming the necrons have the numbers to destroy the Imperium and the Orks before the nids can get any planets then we are assuming the nids have left the galaxy alone long enough for that to happen which I would call wishful thinking.
If the nids swarm tombworlds could the necrons afford to just run everytime? Can they function solely as a spacefaring people or do they need reasources for construction maintenance and supply of their armies from planets?
I think one of the reasons that the 40k Lore is so fun is that each race can seem so overpowered yet easily countered at the same time. Makes for great " Who beats who" arguements and endless theory crafting.
P.S. love your theory about the Old ones creating the Tyranids.
But the Nercons have stupidly powerful technologies...
And the Necrons can just blow up the tyranids in space before they even get close. Like how the Tau usually beat back the Nids...
There is also the The Celestial Orrery....
And more DOOMSDAY machines...
And the Silent King, who is OLDER THAN THE CHAOS GODS.
Good thinking.
But first of all, it wouldn't be the nids attacking necrons but the other side around.
As the necrons aren't of lifing material, nids wouldn't (like they werent into chaos demons) be interested in them at all.
Necrons on the other hand wish to extinguish all living beeing.
time, normaly seen as an alternative form of a weapon to the necrons, would be in favor to the necrons.
they can't just go into a long stasis sleep, as eventualy nids would devour their whole planets and by mistake decimate the necrons to a state so that they wouldn't be able to overcome the nids anymore - still, because of their ability to rematrialze in any tombworld they could just wait for the perfect chance to strike.
so, their wouldn't be a lot tombworld at slumber when war would break out between those two.
also, the number of awoken necrons would nearly be infinite. they once dominated the whole universe and their tombworlds are everywhere. most of them survived.
Emiliano Zapata it wasn’t the universe... they dominated the galaxy and went into hiding because the elder and the chaos teamed up and necrons are actually weak to pscykers believe it or not so the necrons decided to sleep for some time until they were ready once more. The reason the silent king even returned to the galaxy was because he saw the tyranid hive fleet apparently (I think so at least ) and decided that the tyranids posed some threat. Don’t get me wrong, necrons are waaay stronger than tyranids but tyranids have massive numbers that could easily be in the quadrillions which would be problem.
Long live the Eternal Necron dynasty of the OneMindSyndicate!!
I feel like the tyranids would evolve to gain nutrition from living metal, since they can already do that. Once they eat the living metal, it would be like a fusion between the two.
@Federal Bureau of Investigation true
Kirby lives
UltraSmurf he is a funny character
STOMP STOMP
Suggestion tyranid
Eventually, even the Old Ones, who had once been defined by their patience and unstoppable will, became desperate in the face of the Necron assault. They used their great scientific skills to genetically engineer intelligent beings with an even stronger psychic link to the Warp, hoping to create servants with the capability of channeling psychic power to defend themselves.
You got a thumbs up due to your final personal thoughts on Necrons. Hilarious!
Kirby!!!
Stoplayers glad you caught that
In truth nothing in 40k could stop Kirby. The chaos gods stole his cake. He will have it back.
The Necrons literally have the technology to destroy the galaxy with the click of a button. By extension, they have the technology to destroy the universe. This means that they always win. Even if it means their own death in the end.
Is there any canon lore of tyranids assimilating the necrons? Even if for a brief moment? How terrifying would be to run into a tyranid hive with necron characteristics/armaments.
I’ve played necrons for years and I love the lore I’ve got a lot of fluffy characters I use like my silent king who sits right now at 240 points using 7th edition. Would love to see some new units being introduced to the final necron 8th edition codex
Go Zombiecon
My friend plays necrons, and always brags.
If I’d get the prize, I could paint it all pink with rainbow highlights & then gift it to him. ;)
UNICRONS UNITE!!
LOTRcake gayrons
This one deserved it 😂
One person did a Hello Kitty Necron army
Isn't Unicron a transformer?
There is nothing wrong with lovecrons they are beautiful!
I now have a deep love for necrons thank u for this awesome video keep it up
Necrons were my go to as a kid, really liked them and the looks of the techno-skeletons! Awesome! And this video really shows what an advantage they have in immortality and patience! Good work!
Necrons vs some of the gods of chaos
Two words: Cadia Pylon's.
This video seems to favor the Necrons quite a bit.
Necron warriors please! Also that Zombiecon trailer was awesome :)
If The Necron had to fight the whole Tyranids race, their most logic course of action would be to strip planets of like as you mentioned video but with the exception of one. Think of an oasis is a desert. This would draw the Tyranids like a moth is drawn to a candle... once there, the Necron would patiently wait for the Tyranids to consume the biomass of the planet and while they are in the middle of it, Blast the whole system like a supernova.... that should help. then repeat this scheme for any tyranids fleet left in the galaxy.
Tyranid lore eludes to there being countless Tyranids waiting to claw their way into the galaxy, such immense forces could overpower the limited necrons.
A fact that most non tyranid players wish to ignore.
and yet we have yet to see how those old fancy galaxy ending weapons the Necrons have literering the galaxy in action, those numbers could mean nothing.
alludes
Suggestion: tyranids
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"Death, has come for you".
~Necron pariah
"The Necrons would just do *this* to the Hive Fleet"
"The Necrons would just do *that* to the Hive Fleet"
Um, there's more than one Hive Fleet right? Is it so simple as to isolate all the hive fleets, generate a perimeter around every single possible path that the Hive Fleets could take, and then maintain it?
Necrons have the advantage of ignoring bodily proccesses like breathing and eating etc, but they aren't invincible. After sustaining enough damage, they do shut down right? And when they shut down, that is -1 Necron, permanently, since Necrons can't be made. There are as many Necrons as there will ever be. There are billions upon trillions of tyranid organisms, and those are the ones that have made it into the Galaxy, not counting the Hive Fleets that could potentially be entering the Galaxy now, not to mention that Hive Fleets can split off to create more fronts of war.
Starving the Hive Fleets of biological material is all well and good as a deterrent, but these things travelled the void between galaxies for an untold amount of time. I think they can take being a little peckish on the way to the next gas stop.
The way I see it, Necrons have a ridiculous systems for redundancy, in order to make sure Necrons keep getting back up. Tyranids have redundancies too, to increase survivability and durability (admittedly, it sounds like Necrons have more), but there is a limit to it, if there wasn't it would mean that any molecular structure of Necrodermis would eventually regenerate into a Necron.
These are just one person's thoughts. Think of what a collective hive mind of an uncountable number of super intelligent beings with literally aeons of experience in destroying and consuming galaxies could come up with.
Also, that's a pretty condescending ending you got there :(
I like both races, but think the tyranids would not be able to keep up with the losses they undertake.
Thank you guys for all your videos, been tuned in for over a year and learned more on lore from you than wiki can dish out. Keep it up
The actual size of the full Tyranid threat is unknown. It’s been implied that they are an intergalactic species, which means there could be several empty galaxies worth of biomass already consumed. If this were the case every race in the galaxy could unite and still not be able to stand up to them. Pick me for prize!
Beep Boop Maggots. I am a Robot that Runs on American Jobs.
Sorry the Soldier in me wanted to come out for thouse quotes.
I doubt they would bother fighting at all. The Tyranids do not need the Necron and if the necron do not need planets filled with life then what would they fight over? The Necron could just leave them to devour the galaxy and then leave to the next. Do the Tyranids even register the Necron?
It all depends on the necrons themselves. Some of them want to stay as they are, simply rule their old domains, destroying anyone who oppose them, and enslaving anyone that submits to them. Others just want to purge all life, while I think the majority wants to find a way to return to organic bodies. If the Tyranids eat everything, then they leave nothing behind for those who want to return to flesh. Furthermore, if one of the first types of dynasties notices a Tyranid fleet intruding in their territory and menacing their fleshy servants they won't take kindly to that.
If the Necron need living stuff they can just create some new life. Even if a ginourmous Tyranid swarm eats EVERY living thing and creating new life becomes impossible for some reason the Necrons could travel to another galaxy as well (time, tech and as a result energy mean nothing to Necrons after all).
Tyranids sure as hell are "bad for business" but despite the fact that i'm unsure about the results of an all out war, i'm sure both sides lack the means to totally 100% wipe out the other species.
keith parish that's true the necrons can just chill out and wait but that doesn't seem very grim dark
lol I just imagine the Tyranids 'guys can we have a nibble? is that cool with you?' Necrons 'yer, yer go right a head, we don't eat that shit' Tyranids 'ah! cheers guys, we are just passing through'
Just started playing 40k and I LOVE NECRONS! Glad to see they're getting some love in this video. Now if only we could get our codex...
Great video
Metal Egyptian skeletons vs the Zerg...
Kinda sad that they're the last 2 races alive in this fiction. I guess the eldar, Chaos Gods and the Emperor must have misread the future.
If I remember correct the line went like this: Starship Troopers Bugs then Warhammer Tyranids and then Zerg.
Starcraft is a watered down weak version of 40K.
Literally.
+Saleucami Starcraft is more accessible by far and is way more fun if you don't love lore and cool plastic shit.
Necrons will kick the tyrranids out of the Galaxy simply because tyrranids will break their toof on the necrons
syl ey lol
@@hiphopopotamus2839 some acid and bio plasma could serve em right up
Its so mind blowingly frustrating. Every single faction hard counters at least one other, and soft counters aspects of more. To think the galaxy will fall when victory lies in the factions hands. They don't even need to "team up", just organize a loose game of Grim Dark Red Rover(TM).
Checking out the trailer now
I think that someday the Tyranids will find a way to eat living metal, as their are bugs that have exoskeletons that are part metal. They could effectively devour living metal and repurpose it for their chitin.
Did you watch the video? He literally just explained why that would not help, like, at all...
The Necrons have the Celestial Orrery. Nuff said.
Ferro-beast
soo why would the old ones deploy something so utterly unfit against the necrons?? does that not mean that the tyranid are not a weapon of the old ones
Thats just a theory.
Ferro-beast
If they were created by the old ones, it wouldn't be to deal with the Necrons but to make a clean start and stop all the turmoil in the warp
13:27 kinda late on this one, but the old 2009 box still had the same 12 warriors and 3 squads of 4 canoptek scarbs. They also didnt come with transfer sheets at the time, but I digress.
Always Wanted to start a necron Army. That would be a Nice start with the Giveaway:)
Im a tyranid player and I agree mostly with this no salt here
I think the Tyranids could possibly pull off a win due to numbers alone. They seem to be able to survive quite a time without taking in new biomass, based off of their ability to travel huge distances without starving. While they would be unable to grow their numbers by slaying necron, thus robbing them of one of their key strengths, I believe that their main invasion fleet that has yet to arrive in the galaxy has an absolutely insane number of ships that could overwhelm any other faction due to sheer force of numbers
Even worse, the Necrons have the potential to mirror the Eldar's slow but steady decline should they come up against a legitimate threat due to the fact that they lack any method of replacing any permanent losses they take. A single necron warship may be able to destroy twenty hive warships, but that won't matter if the hive has 200 times as many ships.
i think you're underestimating the tyranids,i mean you are right but you assume the tyranids wouldnt have out numbered the necrons and that the necrons would have been decimating the planets of life,while true thats only if they are anticipating the tyranids. almost 90% of the time the necrons are reacting to a threat and not engaging. mostly due to being awoken.the tyranids would lose an all out war of forces but,wars are won with battles and skirmishes not with one all peices on the board battle. the tyranids are far more agile that the necrons and come in different shapes and sizes while necrons don't even have titans.i do see them losing a war of attrition but the necrons can't really keep up with the nids and their movement/versatility.necrons are programed and nids are evolved.even the smurfs lost when using steplock tactics to the nids.
Hellbeckons you don't know much about the Necrons clearly.
you don't know much about replying to a comment clearly. how about telling me why?
Even if they are programed, that does not mean they have limited learning. When Necrons fight, they use every stratedgy they learned in their wars, if it happens no stradegy fits the current situation they will think about new ones. Just like a normal organism, they just calculate a lot faster because they are robots. Tyranid Troops are more agile than Necron that is true, but not every fight and battle is fought on a Planet. Necron Fighters and Ships are one of the fastest and powerful Navys in the Warhammer 40k Universe. They might not have Titans, but they field units with weapons of Titans. Even then, a tombworld fully awakend is a weapon of it self. And weapon versatility is not really a problem wenn their "baisic" gun can hurt everything by ripping apart atoms. With every shot they make they reduce biomass the tyranids need.
ACKTUALLY!the necrons are souless husks,only the higher ups have the capacity to learn,but immediate troops will be basic step lock troop firing at anything like zombies.however i will give you that i think the nids would lose a space battle.also you mentioned them not getting biomass cause of the atom guns but how does ripping apart somethings atoms simply make it dissapear,the biomass is still there its just soup.also the point of my post was not to say the nids would win,just that they were underestimated just because necrons aren't made of biomass. also 40k theories made a video talking about tyranid/necron hybrids who if they managed to evolve it,consume their living metal. i mean if a primarch could do it. they could too
dek proved your points wrong, take your L.
You guys should do a 40 facts with/on If The Emperor Had A TTS Device, that would be awesome!
3:35 - One thing to note and one to question.
1 - 'Nids have supply line stretching back galaxies. The Necrons could literally scorch the entire galaxy and still lose the supply wars.
2 - Is it ever mentioned why the 'nids want biomass, or did you just assume that it's for feeding themselves?
8:51 - Rule #1 of war; If it's giving you a tough time and you can use it, use it; Nothing states that the 'nids would suddenly stop all biological units and toss everything out for necrodermis bodies; They could use both things side-by-side.
The Nids are simply programmed to do it, if one assumes that the theories are correct in that they were created by The Old Ones.
They are the largest gene-bank in existence, carrying unfathomable numbers of genetic code within them and I believe they work like they do because they are the big "reset"-button to everything.
Once every inch of the universe and its galaxies have been scoured of all its genetic material, the Great Devourer restarts everything by utilizing the genetic material it has acquired to make a better universe.
I think that for Tyranids they would win simply win the rush attack, the Necrons do not have a quick production of ,,soldiers" as Tyranids.
Necrons don't need to produce
They just respawn
Yeah mate...They respawn...
Also Necrons don't have a production line, everything they "make" is made outside of time, when it comes nancy sues, Necrons are it. They exist outside of logic.
I am currently working on my first 40k army which is necrons. I'm painting slightly based off of preheresy Luna Wolves, as well making my own lore to go behind them, maybe when I'm done with the lore I will send you guys a 40 fact thing. I'm also slowly working on adding some gorry decorations which include terrinid bits as well as human bits and some ork bits, including an ork axe still stuck in the back or sholder of one of my necron worriors.
Great vid
Mad vid bro
I like both armies so it's good to know both sides of who may win a all out war. I will say I'll watch more fights from both of these armies and see what I can do with my future Tyranid army
One major flaw in the argument here. How can you "maintain a surround" on an opponent that is attacking from outside?
Did you guys announce the winner for the Scions box yet? Got my fingers crossed, I need something new to spend way too much time on painting a tedious and detailed flecktarn camo pants.
Wouldnt the necrons need to like i dont know recharge themselfs or their weapons like what type of "fuel" or "food" do they run on?
May of been asked already but would the bio acid work against the living metel?