When I was a kid, I wanted a set of toy handcuffs (the metal ones that were very popular) but somehow I ended up buying a real set of Hiatts . A few days later, the store from where I purchased the Hiatts had put up a sign saying that anyone under 18 must have their parent's permission in order to make any purchases.
@@Sjonathan91 - In my day, we in my department only used S&W. I never heard of viperteks. I just looked them up and remember officers from other departments using that hinged type of cuffs. Looks very interesting. We were also required to buy ‘police nippers’. Look that up if you want to see something we had to have but nobody I knew used them.
Where I worked security, the company issued the no name cuffs, full of rust and sand(I worked next to the beach). I bought my own ASP and S&W cuffs. I did buy some no name cuffs to loan out to others that didn't want to buy their own. The most I usually carried on myself(depending on season) was 1 to 3 sets. Winter was slow so I usually had on set of cuffs on my belt. Summer was crazy so I carried three. And I usually had more in my bag in the car and some police zip ties. The company used the thin zip ties(the same ones you use to wrap your DVD cables). I bought better for myself.
I worked briefly for a prisoner transfer-extradition service that used cheap, worn out handcuffs, leg braces from the civil war era, 🙄. I suggest Peerless brand over-size or the newer ASP style.
Do you have molle or velcro on your vest? Here in the UK it's possible to get rigid cuff pouches that attach via molle or stick to velcro patches. Alternatively, there are now "folding rigid cuffs" which fold in half like hinged cuffs for storage, then lock out into a full rigid cuff for use. They're a bit pricier as a result, but I believe ASP make a basketweave pouch for those.
I carry two sets of ASP hinged and two sets of ASP chained when geared up. When in plain clothes, I carry Peerless nickel plated since they actually fit in a magazine/cuff carrier.
Good video. I've always preferred hinge cuffs because in a fight or otherwise uncooperative suspect situation, I never have a problem with the cuffs twisting or turning as I'm trying to get them on - each half of the cuff will always be in the same orientation all the time. That said, I still keep a set of chain cuffs as my second belt set because if I have to use 2 sets for some reason, like an injured or extremely ripped guy, the chain cuffs twist easier to meet the other set.
Handcuffing technique video would be awesome! Working in loss prevention, my company only shows 5 minute segment video about handcuffs instead of proper training
Working security in Sweden, we have nine days' training, 160 hours on the job and another five days training before we're qualified - of that, a day and a half is practical use of force exercises with a lot of handcuff work. Loss prevention is a specialist course on top of that, with a lot more focus on cuffing and arrests.
Yeah I wish my company would properly train us, especially it being a large corporation! I've seen my partners hand cuff subjects and it's really scary how it's without proper technique. I've resorted to UA-cam videos and asking an LEO friend of mine to teach me.
I absolutely love your videos! I am starting field training in about 8 months and your videos definitely give me a great insight and a ton of valuable information. Thank you!
Here in the uk, the most common cuffs officers use are TCH Speed cuffs. Very similar to the Hiatt pair. Have a pair myself, need a new pair though as they have been dropped and one side is now stuck inside
I use ASP hinged handcuffs. I had to transfer custody of a subject to state police. The trooper was amazed that I was able to prove to him that "Preloading" is not needed with ASP. I then proceeded to show him that"Speed restraining" a subject is easier. The other plus side of ASP is if a key gets stuck, you can take the other side of the restraint to free the stuck key
I found a way around police taking your handcuffs if you are in security. If the color of the cuffs isn't an issue for your company, carry pink handcuffs. For one it is funny to see the look on someone's face when you force them into a pair of pink handcuffs and two, police never forget to take them off before taking the guy downtown. I love my pink cuffs.
As a frequent visitor to jail - I do appreciate double lock. Handcuffs are uncomfortable as they are - it's nice for them to not clamp down further. The chain is also nice, since typically, in the back of the car you're leaning forward to get your weight off your wrists. It's nice to be able to move from time to time to move the pressure point around
Asp is great for LP or anyone doing a lot change of custody You can leave them on have the officer taking ur prisoner apply his over them and take them off still cause of the dual key holes...
Rigid cuffs are standard issue in the UK to police in overt roles, as far as I know that’s nationwide. All the training surrounds use of rigid cuffs with pain compliance techniques that wouldn’t be possible with chain link cuffs, but it’s interesting to see they’re in use stateside too. I think Hiatt/Safariland might be missing a trick if there’s no basketweave pouch or holder available, certainly for the US market.
I like the S&W hinged. I have both standard and oversized both hinged and love them both. I use both for transport and chained cuffs if someone is resisting, bc the hinged are harder to put on someone who’s resisting.
Nice to know I wasn’t the only one. The smith & wesson m-100’s with the key stuck in them, is a problem I’m pretty familiar with. Firstly the key doesn’t look like the original smith & wesson branded key? Peerless or generic keys like the Zak tool keys are slightly shorter in flag length. The problem usually occurs after you’ve just oiled your cuffs. The key flag has a tendency to slip past the lock bar with the extra lubrication and gets stuck in between the lock bar and the double lock bar. Believe it or not a good pair of pliers and a decent amount of force will slip it back the other way and allow the key to be removed. After that stick with the smith & wesson branded keys and you shouldn’t have a recurring problem (or need to replace a set of cuffs). I ended buying a Zak tool extension specifically made for the larger smith & wesson style key and haven’t had a problem since.
As a c/o we have a lockbox that goes over the cuffs and a belly chain goes threw it, only time we worry about the key hole is when transporting inside the facility.
Hinged cuffs work well for transport of prisoners but are terrible if you are trying to cuff a resisting suspect. I used a set of S&W old school cuffs for over ten years
Great video. There should be better training on cuffing suspects. If someone gets loose with only one cuff on, the other cuff makes a wicked weapon! I agree that hinged cuffs are best for prisoner transport. You have the extra guards available if the prisoner resists cuffing. And they are more difficult to pick. Recently we had 2 guards killed by prisoners here in Georgia during transport! I have not seen the results of the investigation on how they escaped and killed the 2 guards. Or use leather belt with side handcuffs to transport Prisoners It's so easy for prisoners to obtain keys during visits. During the 80's it was common to see videos of drugged out suspects to have super human strength due to adrenaline and break the chains after cuffed. Hinged cuffs became a lot more popular then. Always key holes up and double lock!
I actually prefer hinged cuffs. If the guy resists, you wont get pinched in the chain. The cuffs are more rigid and they don’t twist while trying to get cuffs on the guy.
With the HIAT, it is not a solid polymer block. It is similar to the hinged but the hinges are replaced with layers of solid metal and it is a solid metal piece/cuff. The polymer is just a case/protector/grip whatever you want to call it. You can also get vests that have a built in holder for these types of cuffs, usually you can get two in one of these said pouches.
Used the old style UK Hiatts for years. Good for pain compliance & found them easy to cuff rolling on the ground. There is a basketweave carrier made in the UK. I’ve had to cut multiple brands off over 30 years. ASPs were issued to investigators at one agency I was at lasted 3 months. m
I have never seen Glock handcuffs. You might be interested into another German brand, called Clejuso. They are supplying the German police to this day. Their models are somewhat like S&W, but with a unique touch. The more expensive models have a tumbler lock and a special shape, keeping the captive's fingers away from the keyhole. One of their legiron designs uses an interesting non-swing-through design.
The down side to the Smith & Wesson is the double lock. The double lock also helps prevent the cuffs being picked. The Smith & Wessons can be banged against a table or something to move the double lock bar so it's not double locked and then can have the teeth slipped. Can't do that with the peerless.
+free field training I don't remember which way the double lock moves to engage but for instance if the the double lock is moving toward the single bar to engage then you would hit the double bars against something hard repetitively to try moving the lock. This maybe move prevalent in the corrections setting. As a side note I think it's Worth mentioning that chained cuffs can be broken easily by binding the chain links.
I've seen the video about the chain breaking but they had to be up front. Also as far as banging the cuffs to disengage the double lock that's probably more of a problem in corrections. If you supervise your prisoner then it's unlikely for either of them to be a problem.
+MattysPrincess yeah, this is all why you don't leave handcuffed prisoners alone. All the handcuff escape crap isn't worth a damn if you are doing your job properly.
they made updated Smith & Wesson cuffs. They now changed the area of the double lock. It's now on where the cuff locks. (These are on my DoC cuffs.) I don't use them anymore.
I live in the UK and when i was arrested years back with the rigid cuffs they had my hands in the front sort of facing each other and i tell you i could not move for love nor money, brilliant things they are.
I'm not a fan of the linked cuffs I carry my s&w hand cuffs at the 5 and 7 o'clock on my belt with one in each pouch. But I do carry a set of rigid cuffs in my patrol bag for suspects that really give me trouble.
I work armed security in California. I’ve put a good amount of people in handcuffs in the 10 years I’ve been doing the job, yet I’ve never lost a pair of cuffs. I carry peerless orange, pink and yellow cuffs, depending on what duty belt I’m wearing that day. Every time I’ve cuffed someone the officer that takes custody will search them again, check the cuffs, swap the cuffs, hold the cuffs in the air while asking very loudly who the cuffs belong too. Obviously this is only my experience and the local PD where I work is about 95% male and they’ve never wanted to take someone in with some brightly colored cuffs, as they’ve told me that much, which is why I swapped out all my black cuffs for the brightly colored options. Btw, I’m a male, my name is unisex so I feel like I should declare myself as I could be confused for a female just based off my name.
We run asp here, I agree about them being able to be bent out of alignment. One thing I didn't hear you mention is that they are %20 bigger in the bow for people with big wrists, plus they have those little angled cuts that are supposed to multiple force to swing the arm better. Well so they tell us here
The asp cuffs do deal with big fat asses better. but dudes have to be land whales as it is to not fit the smith, hiat, or peerles cuffs. When they are that big you are still playing the string two cuffs together or use zip cuffs to connect games.
Lol yeah I've had a couple like that, or big guys with no flexibility that had to string a couple pair together. Flex cuffs are in my patrol bag at all times now to.
You mentioned that you would carry rigid handcuffs if it weren't for being unable to find a basketweave case. Have you considered a pair of Hiatt UL-1 folding rigids? They fold in half to fit into a pouch and when unfolded they lock to function like full rigid handcuffs. I know for a fact Bianchi sells a basketweave pouch for UL-1s from their Accumold Elite line. The cuffs have a tiny bit of wiggle room in the middle when unfolded but are otherwise completely rigid. The key holes are on only one side and they use a peg system for the double lock. The biggest downside of the cuffs is the space they take up when folded. I've had people look at the pouch and ask if I had two pairs of handcuffs in it. The UL-1s are also more expensive than the fully rigid handcuffs sold by Hiatt. Hope you found this helpful.
You could get a handcuff Strap if you can't find a case for Hiatt Handcuffs and peerless,Smith and Wesson and Asp you can find Cases and Kydex Handcuff Cases fits all size Handcuffs
i see alot of court officers with asp. you always with the person and never take your eyes off em. now my supervisor hates asp everything so i carry peerless. but GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU
I'm a corrections officer and also a cert member. I live by Smith & Wesson handcuffs especially the chain. I've used the chain and the hinge handcuffs. I've seen people get out of the hinge handcuffs like it's nobody else's business. So for me and my facility I would definitely use the chain handcuffs and they got all sizes for big and small people to.
free field training having inmates pop the handcuffs. And also if you have can Defender with larger wrists than most the hinge cuffs really don't give as much given leeway as it should. I will say not have to worry about the inmate jumping cuffs from Back to Front is one good thing about the hinge cuffs. Cuff with the holes on both sides that would be awesome to do if you we're going on a transport and you had a black box over those.
I have three sets of viper tech handcuffs, hinged in black, chained in black, and chained silver truly good handcuffs they last and are durable and strong
I understand the downsides to the model 100 ASPs. ASP recently came out with a model 400 that is an all aluminum cuff and the polymer side is polymer coated aluminum vs only polymer. They also have interchangeable locksets in the event of a mechanical failure.
Like how the rigid videos were all UK police. Here in the UK police almost exclusively use rigid cuffs (TCH 840/842) and generally will try to cuff with one arm each way which makes it slightly more comfortable yet harder to escape (technique only possible with rigid or hinged cuffs)
I highly recommend rigid cuffs as they are used majorly by the uk constabularies, they make basket weave and leather cases, however they make a folding set that could fit into an asp handcuff case or double cuffs case, they also make cases for these cuffs they are rigid but can be folded like any set of chained or hinged cuffs by using a cuff key in the middle to close them and then when open they are solid rigid. Great video however
I had to have a pair of M100s get stuck on a prisoner once. I told the jailer and it wasn't his first rodeo. He left for a second and returned with a giant pair of bolt cutters. I left the jail with a custom set of two-piece cuffs.
Something else too that may just be specific to Peerless, I don't know, but their hinge cuffs have a larger opening than their chain cuffs. So it's easier to get them on bigger wrists, though a downside is that some females or juveniles will have wrists so small you can't get the hinge cuffs tight enough to keep them from slipping out of them. Another reason I carry a set of each.
My friend also wants to know... and sound proofing. He said he makes "beats" idk I think that means he makes music. He doesn't want his art to escape... I inderstand.
You really need to try a pair of saf-lok handcuffs, they are made in Australia and are much stronger than s&w, asp, hiatt type cuffs. Plus they are double locked without a key so are applied without the need to use your key.
Mate get your self a set of SAF-LOK mk5 hinged handcuffs. We use them solely here in Australia and are one of the best if not the best-hinged handcuffs in the world. They're worth every penny.
I used to lose my cuffs all the time due to emergency issues when I was working in the prison but never lost a set on the street. I annoy whoever is taking the prisoner off my hands until the give me my cuffs back!!! Lol
In my LP job, our handcuffs are provided by the employer and ONLY those can be use. I haven't yet needed them, more due to our "rules of engagement" shall we say on both stopping people and handcuff use.
For weight, peerless makes an alloy set of cuffs that are anodized in different colors. They're a bit more expensive but super lightweight if you want to save weight on your belt.
free field training yep. I think they might have made a newer version/model of it? Idk but I did get a set last year and I like them. They don't seem to be prone to bending or anything like that. Not sure if you had experience with the old ones.
My new Asp cuffs are metal. They are still super light. But you can't make it miss like that. Asp model 400 QD1062817. I love them. I guess you could make em miss if you really tried but they are not near as flimsy as the original.
In the UK you only have those block handcuffs but you can buy the chain ones too but policemen only use block ones. Btw do a review on viper handcuffs. They are super durable and work really well. All of my friends in the UK uses them
Thought that was a pair of Hyatts! They were always brilliant to use as long as you never lost control of them. They make a surprisingly good weapon if the subject breaks free... That said, if you keep a good grip on the middle, no one who can feel pain is going to be getting free in a hurry!
Interesting. There's another version of totally rigid cuffs apart from Hiatts: The Yuil YM-03. I guess they're from South Korea. These are more bulky, but the hands are spaced more apart and you have a better grip on the handle. Another kind which I actually used are adjustable Darby-style handcuffs. They were used in the UK until the 1940s or so. More difficult to handle for sure, but impossible to pick due to a very strong spring, and generally more comfortable for the victim. Those are still made by KUB Industries in India. Anyways, happy hunting. :)
I dont like them. US male wrists are large & the 100 size is not the best design IMO. I got a set of red S&W handcuffs a few years ago. I'd buy Peerless. The FBI & Texas Rangers use Peerless brands.
Chain link are the easiest to break with the right bind and torque. The older the better new ones are harder to get a catch to bind up. That being said in the case of new cuffs dirt and concrete are your friend a few abrasions and some grit will help to bind them up so you can snap them.
in the Italian police only those with a chain are tolerated,while the penitentiary police use a system of particular rather antiquated handcuffs Which are attached and also stretch the crossed wrists to which the thumb ones are also placed in case of special detentions (mafia)
What do you think about using colored cuffs? It seems like it would help prevent cuffs from getting lost when someone else transports the subject you arrested
+Hoosier Video Guy it is a great idea but somehow over the course of a decade we have managed to lose every pair of the dozen handcuffs we spray painted red and kept in the prisoner van. So, no promises that it will work. We also engrave our cuffs here to make them easier to tell apart and I have seen guys with cuffs that have one number scribbled out and their number engraved next to it
Have you ever seen the square "lock box" adaption for chain handcuffs? From what I understand they essentially turn your chain ( or other) handcuffs into that last pair. It's removable, and probably not as expensive as owning 3 or 4 different kinds of handcuffs ( I think they work with all brands). I know LA Police gear has them.
Those are "blue boxes" and they are an additional security measure on a normal pair of cuffs. They don't turn them into rigid cuffs because they make it impossible to open or close the cuffs. That is the whole idea of them.
I have a pair of alloy cuffs made Hiatt that also fit bigger than normal wrists without being as bulky as other oversized cuffs. They have to be the best set of chain cuffs I've seen and I don't think they make them anymore.
TCH is amazing the 840 is the same as the hiatt just has a better grip and more easy to fight people with I work with the met I find it so fun when I fight people into cuffs I once broke an arm but 840 off 850 are great
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When I was a kid, I wanted a set of toy handcuffs (the metal ones that were very popular) but somehow I ended up buying a real set of Hiatts . A few days later, the store from where I purchased the Hiatts had put up a sign saying that anyone under 18 must have their parent's permission in order to make any purchases.
In my 34 years in law enforcement, I had two pairs of S&W cuffs and gave them away to a rookie on the date of my retirement party.
That's good service there!
free field training what’s your opinion on vipertek cuffs
I’m a rookie and I just received my first pair from a similar situation. It’s a very cool experience.
Question for you sir. What do you think of vipertek hinged handcuffs
@@Sjonathan91 - In my day, we in my department only used S&W. I never heard of viperteks. I just looked them up and remember officers from other departments using that hinged type of cuffs. Looks very interesting. We were also required to buy ‘police nippers’. Look that up if you want to see something we had to have but nobody I knew used them.
I'll stick to my Dollar tree police kit handcuffs for now.
Leo Thatch lol 😂
Thats what batman used to contain superman
Lol
Hahaha....yeah, professional ones are probably not cheap.
@@Bravo107GamingandTributes They aren't actually too bad.. $20ish for Peerless and Smith & Wesson :)
Where I worked security, the company issued the no name cuffs, full of rust and sand(I worked next to the beach). I bought my own ASP and S&W cuffs. I did buy some no name cuffs to loan out to others that didn't want to buy their own. The most I usually carried on myself(depending on season) was 1 to 3 sets. Winter was slow so I usually had on set of cuffs on my belt. Summer was crazy so I carried three. And I usually had more in my bag in the car and some police zip ties. The company used the thin zip ties(the same ones you use to wrap your DVD cables). I bought better for myself.
I worked briefly for a prisoner transfer-extradition service that used cheap, worn out handcuffs, leg braces from the civil war era, 🙄. I suggest Peerless brand over-size or the newer ASP style.
Do you have molle or velcro on your vest? Here in the UK it's possible to get rigid cuff pouches that attach via molle or stick to velcro patches. Alternatively, there are now "folding rigid cuffs" which fold in half like hinged cuffs for storage, then lock out into a full rigid cuff for use. They're a bit pricier as a result, but I believe ASP make a basketweave pouch for those.
I carry two sets of ASP hinged and two sets of ASP chained when geared up. When in plain clothes, I carry Peerless nickel plated since they actually fit in a magazine/cuff carrier.
Smith and Wesson lever lock handcuffs. I still have my pair back from when I worked security. Hands down my favourite type of handcuffs
I've only been in cuffs once (due to being in trouble) and they were rigid ones....and they worked.
Good video. I've always preferred hinge cuffs because in a fight or otherwise uncooperative suspect situation, I never have a problem with the cuffs twisting or turning as I'm trying to get them on - each half of the cuff will always be in the same orientation all the time. That said, I still keep a set of chain cuffs as my second belt set because if I have to use 2 sets for some reason, like an injured or extremely ripped guy, the chain cuffs twist easier to meet the other set.
That twisting can be used to break the cuffs and escape detainment
@@foxboiunknown320 not if you use good cuffs
Finally made it to a department :) I have the chain Smith and Wesson cuffs in silver
congrats man!
+free field training your videos suck
Amber Smith ....where is your video on different types of cuffs bro? Well? Still waiting dude....
I finally got on with the PD too. Been using my dad's old S&W cuffs. I think he used them more as bond recovery then did he did as a cop.
stay safe man
Handcuffing technique video would be awesome!
Working in loss prevention, my company only shows 5 minute segment video about handcuffs instead of proper training
Working security in Sweden, we have nine days' training, 160 hours on the job and another five days training before we're qualified - of that, a day and a half is practical use of force exercises with a lot of handcuff work. Loss prevention is a specialist course on top of that, with a lot more focus on cuffing and arrests.
Yeah I wish my company would properly train us, especially it being a large corporation! I've seen my partners hand cuff subjects and it's really scary how it's without proper technique. I've resorted to UA-cam videos and asking an LEO friend of mine to teach me.
+Jaime Jr Gallegos well, as soon as I get an assistant we will try to help you out on here.
Jaime Jr Gallegos just use zip ties
Jaime Jr Gallegos just put it on them they are not going nowhere
FINALLY this video is out after seeing it on Instagram thanks
Thanks for watching both times. I'm on midnights next month so the video machine is going to crank up again on Instagram.
+John Doe wow, that is quite a story
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I absolutely love your videos! I am starting field training in about 8 months and your videos definitely give me a great insight and a ton of valuable information. Thank you!
+Jillian Fernandez I'm glad to help jill
Here in the uk, the most common cuffs officers use are TCH Speed cuffs. Very similar to the Hiatt pair. Have a pair myself, need a new pair though as they have been dropped and one side is now stuck inside
I use ASP hinged handcuffs. I had to transfer custody of a subject to state police. The trooper was amazed that I was able to prove to him that "Preloading" is not needed with ASP. I then proceeded to show him that"Speed restraining" a subject is easier.
The other plus side of ASP is if a key gets stuck, you can take the other side of the restraint to free the stuck key
I found a way around police taking your handcuffs if you are in security. If the color of the cuffs isn't an issue for your company, carry pink handcuffs. For one it is funny to see the look on someone's face when you force them into a pair of pink handcuffs and two, police never forget to take them off before taking the guy downtown. I love my pink cuffs.
As a frequent visitor to jail - I do appreciate double lock. Handcuffs are uncomfortable as they are - it's nice for them to not clamp down further. The chain is also nice, since typically, in the back of the car you're leaning forward to get your weight off your wrists. It's nice to be able to move from time to time to move the pressure point around
Asp is great for LP or anyone doing a lot change of custody
You can leave them on have the officer taking ur prisoner apply his over them and take them off still cause of the dual key holes...
+Wil Young hey! You're killing all my good video ideas, LOL
I like the fact if the ratchet teeth wear out you can easily replace them. And you can double lock via the key hole
I love my ASP cuffs...dual key locks, yellow indicator....lifetime replacement...wider....and user friendly
Next week whips .
+Niall McDermott if only I could get the old lady on board...
Niall McDermott lol. 😂😂😂😂
Be cafeful she might whip the crap outa you and you gotta work the next day
free field training again come with me
Rigid cuffs are standard issue in the UK to police in overt roles, as far as I know that’s nationwide. All the training surrounds use of rigid cuffs with pain compliance techniques that wouldn’t be possible with chain link cuffs, but it’s interesting to see they’re in use stateside too. I think Hiatt/Safariland might be missing a trick if there’s no basketweave pouch or holder available, certainly for the US market.
You can unlock them with the keyholes facing you. I even did a video demonstrating it. So do not assume they never can get out of them.
+Silent but Descriptive nothing is impossible, but some things are harder than others.
I like the S&W hinged. I have both standard and oversized both hinged and love them both. I use both for transport and chained cuffs if someone is resisting, bc the hinged are harder to put on someone who’s resisting.
The hiatt are not held together by the plastic thats just a cover they are sold steel underneath
Thanks you ! French model (around years 1995 )was really special ..2 differents keys.
Nice to know I wasn’t the only one. The smith & wesson m-100’s with the key stuck in them, is a problem I’m pretty familiar with. Firstly the key doesn’t look like the original smith & wesson branded key? Peerless or generic keys like the Zak tool keys are slightly shorter in flag length. The problem usually occurs after you’ve just oiled your cuffs. The key flag has a tendency to slip past the lock bar with the extra lubrication and gets stuck in between the lock bar and the double lock bar. Believe it or not a good pair of pliers and a decent amount of force will slip it back the other way and allow the key to be removed. After that stick with the smith & wesson branded keys and you shouldn’t have a recurring problem (or need to replace a set of cuffs). I ended buying a Zak tool extension specifically made for the larger smith & wesson style key and haven’t had a problem since.
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As a c/o we have a lockbox that goes over the cuffs and a belly chain goes threw it, only time we worry about the key hole is when transporting inside the facility.
Iam retired now but I always carried a extra mag and set of cuffs in my car and a good flashlight ur giving great advice to the kids be 🚔
+Frank Feazell I try brother, I try
Hinged cuffs work well for transport of prisoners but are terrible if you are trying to cuff a resisting suspect. I used a set of S&W old school cuffs for over ten years
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Yeah I really can't stand stand the hinged cuffs. I carry two sets of standard chain and a set of oversized.
Great video. There should be better training on cuffing suspects. If someone gets loose with only one cuff on, the other cuff makes a wicked weapon!
I agree that hinged cuffs are best for prisoner transport. You have the extra guards available if the prisoner resists cuffing. And they are more difficult to pick.
Recently we had 2 guards killed by prisoners here in Georgia during transport!
I have not seen the results of the investigation on how they escaped and killed the 2 guards.
Or use leather belt with side handcuffs to transport Prisoners
It's so easy for prisoners to obtain keys during visits.
During the 80's it was common to see videos of drugged out suspects to have super human strength due to adrenaline and break the chains after cuffed. Hinged cuffs became a lot more popular then.
Always key holes up and double lock!
I actually prefer hinged cuffs. If the guy resists, you wont get pinched in the chain. The cuffs are more rigid and they don’t twist while trying to get cuffs on the guy.
@@stever8776 there is a technique to break chain cuffs as well
lisar3006 thank you for your service
I’m not a cop but I still enjoyed learning about this great vid man
With the HIAT, it is not a solid polymer block. It is similar to the hinged but the hinges are replaced with layers of solid metal and it is a solid metal piece/cuff. The polymer is just a case/protector/grip whatever you want to call it. You can also get vests that have a built in holder for these types of cuffs, usually you can get two in one of these said pouches.
The ridged cuffs are used in the U.K.
Used the old style UK Hiatts for years. Good for pain compliance & found them easy to cuff rolling on the ground. There is a basketweave carrier made in the UK. I’ve had to cut multiple brands off over 30 years. ASPs were issued to investigators at one agency I was at lasted 3 months. m
Guess I'm old school, but I wouldn't even begin to consider plastic, ok polymer, cuffs. I'm ok with Glocks, oddly enough.
I have never seen Glock handcuffs. You might be interested into another German brand, called Clejuso. They are supplying the German police to this day. Their models are somewhat like S&W, but with a unique touch. The more expensive models have a tumbler lock and a special shape, keeping the captive's fingers away from the keyhole. One of their legiron designs uses an interesting non-swing-through design.
The down side to the Smith & Wesson is the double lock. The double lock also helps prevent the cuffs being picked. The Smith & Wessons can be banged against a table or something to move the double lock bar so it's not double locked and then can have the teeth slipped. Can't do that with the peerless.
I want to recreate this as I've never heard of it before. where do you hit the cuffs to pop the double lock off?
+free field training I don't remember which way the double lock moves to engage but for instance if the the double lock is moving toward the single bar to engage then you would hit the double bars against something hard repetitively to try moving the lock. This maybe move prevalent in the corrections setting. As a side note I think it's Worth mentioning that chained cuffs can be broken easily by binding the chain links.
I've seen the video about the chain breaking but they had to be up front. Also as far as banging the cuffs to disengage the double lock that's probably more of a problem in corrections. If you supervise your prisoner then it's unlikely for either of them to be a problem.
+MattysPrincess yeah, this is all why you don't leave handcuffed prisoners alone. All the handcuff escape crap isn't worth a damn if you are doing your job properly.
well spoken presentation young sir.
they made updated Smith & Wesson cuffs. They now changed the area of the double lock. It's now on where the cuff locks. (These are on my DoC cuffs.) I don't use them anymore.
I live in the UK and when i was arrested years back with the rigid cuffs they had my hands in the front sort of facing each other and i tell you i could not move for love nor money, brilliant things they are.
Could you not rotate your wrist so that your palms face each other?
@@cyril4046 Not a chance, your basically making a = with you arms
@@nentash8566 I see. I misread your initial comment. You were put in the stack position.
I'm not a fan of the linked cuffs I carry my s&w hand cuffs at the 5 and 7 o'clock on my belt with one in each pouch. But I do carry a set of rigid cuffs in my patrol bag for suspects that really give me trouble.
What are you're thoughts on the tactical use of thick white zip cuffs on a suspect?
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I work armed security in California. I’ve put a good amount of people in handcuffs in the 10 years I’ve been doing the job, yet I’ve never lost a pair of cuffs. I carry peerless orange, pink and yellow cuffs, depending on what duty belt I’m wearing that day. Every time I’ve cuffed someone the officer that takes custody will search them again, check the cuffs, swap the cuffs, hold the cuffs in the air while asking very loudly who the cuffs belong too. Obviously this is only my experience and the local PD where I work is about 95% male and they’ve never wanted to take someone in with some brightly colored cuffs, as they’ve told me that much, which is why I swapped out all my black cuffs for the brightly colored options.
Btw, I’m a male, my name is unisex so I feel like I should declare myself as I could be confused for a female just based off my name.
"That's what she said" moment at 7:09
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Always the sip of coffee when you start the video 🤣🤣🤣😂
I use uzi link cuffs. Love them. Also got uzi rigids.
We run asp here, I agree about them being able to be bent out of alignment. One thing I didn't hear you mention is that they are %20 bigger in the bow for people with big wrists, plus they have those little angled cuts that are supposed to multiple force to swing the arm better. Well so they tell us here
The asp cuffs do deal with big fat asses better. but dudes have to be land whales as it is to not fit the smith, hiat, or peerles cuffs. When they are that big you are still playing the string two cuffs together or use zip cuffs to connect games.
Lol yeah I've had a couple like that, or big guys with no flexibility that had to string a couple pair together. Flex cuffs are in my patrol bag at all times now to.
My grandpa had a pair of smith and wesson model 90 chain handcuffs when he was a turn key in long Beach i got them when he died in 2014
You mentioned that you would carry rigid handcuffs if it weren't for being unable to find a basketweave case. Have you considered a pair of Hiatt UL-1 folding rigids? They fold in half to fit into a pouch and when unfolded they lock to function like full rigid handcuffs. I know for a fact Bianchi sells a basketweave pouch for UL-1s from their Accumold Elite line. The cuffs have a tiny bit of wiggle room in the middle when unfolded but are otherwise completely rigid. The key holes are on only one side and they use a peg system for the double lock. The biggest downside of the cuffs is the space they take up when folded. I've had people look at the pouch and ask if I had two pairs of handcuffs in it. The UL-1s are also more expensive than the fully rigid handcuffs sold by Hiatt. Hope you found this helpful.
+Robert Warmuth I'll have to look into those. I looked at the asp rigid foldable cuffs and didn't come away impressed. I'll take a look at the hiats
You could get a handcuff Strap if you can't find a case for Hiatt Handcuffs and peerless,Smith and Wesson and Asp you can find Cases and Kydex Handcuff Cases fits all size Handcuffs
Here in Australia, all police now use SAF-LOK Mk5 handcuffs. Unpickable and, from what I've seen, probably the best handcuffs in the world.
i see alot of court officers with asp. you always with the person and never take your eyes off em. now my supervisor hates asp everything so i carry peerless. but GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU
+nick costello glad you liked it.
And i really Hope that it goes so very well.
8:40 ASP makes folding rigid cuffs. They do have a larger footprint than regular cuffs but they work great as rigid cuffs.
Good point about the flex in ASP cuffs and great video
I'm a corrections officer and also a cert member. I live by Smith & Wesson handcuffs especially the chain. I've used the chain and the hinge handcuffs. I've seen people get out of the hinge handcuffs like it's nobody else's business. So for me and my facility I would definitely use the chain handcuffs and they got all sizes for big and small people to.
+J. Eric Smith what has been the issue with the hinge cuffs specifically?
free field training having inmates pop the handcuffs. And also if you have can Defender with larger wrists than most the hinge cuffs really don't give as much given leeway as it should. I will say not have to worry about the inmate jumping cuffs from Back to Front is one good thing about the hinge cuffs. Cuff with the holes on both sides that would be awesome to do if you we're going on a transport and you had a black box over those.
I have three sets of viper tech handcuffs, hinged in black, chained in black, and chained silver truly good handcuffs they last and are durable and strong
@Stephanie S in case one of them broke
Or in other cases, I lost one of them
I understand the downsides to the model 100 ASPs.
ASP recently came out with a model 400 that is an all aluminum cuff and the polymer side is polymer coated aluminum vs only polymer.
They also have interchangeable locksets in the event of a mechanical failure.
ASP model 100's just seem kinda cheap to me.
Like how the rigid videos were all UK police.
Here in the UK police almost exclusively use rigid cuffs (TCH 840/842) and generally will try to cuff with one arm each way which makes it slightly more comfortable yet harder to escape (technique only possible with rigid or hinged cuffs)
I highly recommend rigid cuffs as they are used majorly by the uk constabularies, they make basket weave and leather cases, however they make a folding set that could fit into an asp handcuff case or double cuffs case, they also make cases for these cuffs they are rigid but can be folded like any set of chained or hinged cuffs by using a cuff key in the middle to close them and then when open they are solid rigid. Great video however
I had to have a pair of M100s get stuck on a prisoner once. I told the jailer and it wasn't his first rodeo. He left for a second and returned with a giant pair of bolt cutters. I left the jail with a custom set of two-piece cuffs.
Peerless superlites are what I would recommend. I did an overview on them recently. Very high quality and INSANE light weight cuffs
Something else too that may just be specific to Peerless, I don't know, but their hinge cuffs have a larger opening than their chain cuffs. So it's easier to get them on bigger wrists, though a downside is that some females or juveniles will have wrists so small you can't get the hinge cuffs tight enough to keep them from slipping out of them. Another reason I carry a set of each.
I've had far more issues with small hand people than large hand folks. even the smiths and hiatts only go so small.
Nice video, i bought ASP chain handcuffs yesterday
I get the cuffs but what is the best steel door that one can use to make their basement escape proof? Asking for a friend 😂😂
My friend also wants to know... and sound proofing. He said he makes "beats" idk I think that means he makes music. He doesn't want his art to escape... I inderstand.
Block cuffs are very popular with UK police because you have a large amount of control of the subject.
You really need to try a pair of saf-lok handcuffs, they are made in Australia and are much stronger than s&w, asp, hiatt type cuffs. Plus they are double locked without a key so are applied without the need to use your key.
I have used the Smith and Weston Chain Nickel finish handcuffs and after 2 years of use, I found the lock would not lock and it would open freely.
I’ve always used asp cuffs I carry two chained and one hinged
I have two sets one is my good pair the second is for those I rather not touch and if they get bodily fluid from someone they can be tossed
Lol, me too! Back right side I keep my shit clickers. Left side I keep my fresher ones.
Hiyatt cuffs--They are full metal in the middle the plastic bit is just a cover
Mate get your self a set of SAF-LOK mk5 hinged handcuffs. We use them solely here in Australia and are one of the best if not the best-hinged handcuffs in the world. They're worth every penny.
+Corey Dark I'll have to look into that, thanks. Never heard of those.
Cool nice video! I have a very geeky job but I could watch these all day! :)
I used to lose my cuffs all the time due to emergency issues when I was working in the prison but never lost a set on the street. I annoy whoever is taking the prisoner off my hands until the give me my cuffs back!!! Lol
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I love the Hiatt's handcuffs
probably been cuffed before havent you lol
In my LP job, our handcuffs are provided by the employer and ONLY those can be use. I haven't yet needed them, more due to our "rules of engagement" shall we say on both stopping people and handcuff use.
The last one you put on the table at the begining is what police use in the uk
Those UK handcuffs look brutal. Watching this makes me want to see how difficult it would be for a guy to get out of those kind behind the back.
Damn near impossible to get out of. I got cuffed for a joke and had to walk around the station to get my jacket with my keys in it
For weight, peerless makes an alloy set of cuffs that are anodized in different colors. They're a bit more expensive but super lightweight if you want to save weight on your belt.
+Kurt Henrie man, I haven't seen those in over a decade. They still make those?
free field training yep. I think they might have made a newer version/model of it? Idk but I did get a set last year and I like them. They don't seem to be prone to bending or anything like that. Not sure if you had experience with the old ones.
I have a pair of S/W cuffs, not sure of the model, but they have the the pegs on the side
My new Asp cuffs are metal. They are still super light. But you can't make it miss like that. Asp model 400 QD1062817. I love them. I guess you could make em miss if you really tried but they are not near as flimsy as the original.
I'll have to check those out
Can you review Viperteck handcuffs, i personally like them, i dont know if they are that good
In the UK you only have those block handcuffs but you can buy the chain ones too but policemen only use block ones.
Btw do a review on viper handcuffs. They are super durable and work really well. All of my friends in the UK uses them
Northumbria officers have started to use hinged now, because they're cheaper
Hi tommy, Do you work for rcpd??
Thought that was a pair of Hyatts! They were always brilliant to use as long as you never lost control of them. They make a surprisingly good weapon if the subject breaks free... That said, if you keep a good grip on the middle, no one who can feel pain is going to be getting free in a hurry!
I imagine they have pouches for that hiat now, but I bet you could fit them securely in a radio pouch
Interesting. There's another version of totally rigid cuffs apart from Hiatts: The Yuil YM-03. I guess they're from South Korea. These are more bulky, but the hands are spaced more apart and you have a better grip on the handle. Another kind which I actually used are adjustable Darby-style handcuffs. They were used in the UK until the 1940s or so. More difficult to handle for sure, but impossible to pick due to a very strong spring, and generally more comfortable for the victim. Those are still made by KUB Industries in India. Anyways, happy hunting. :)
I have the same black Smith and Wesson and they're great
You can never go wrong with the S&W 100.
1:10 My handcuffs are Republic Arms and feature the double locking mechanism too. I would not have it any other way.
a discussion about pros and cons of steel Vs Flex cuffs would be appreciated
I have three pairs of cuffs for fugitive recovery. The S&W 100s are the best in my opinion.
I dont like them. US male wrists are large & the 100 size is not the best design IMO. I got a set of red S&W handcuffs a few years ago. I'd buy Peerless. The FBI & Texas Rangers use Peerless brands.
Chain link are the easiest to break with the right bind and torque. The older the better new ones are harder to get a catch to bind up. That being said in the case of new cuffs dirt and concrete are your friend a few abrasions and some grit will help to bind them up so you can snap them.
Do a video on cuffing techniques. The tactical vs practical. PPCT v. Real world. Academy vs field.
in the Italian police only those with a chain are tolerated,while the penitentiary police use a system of particular rather antiquated handcuffs Which are attached and also stretch the crossed wrists to which the thumb ones are also placed in case of special detentions (mafia)
What do you think about using colored cuffs? It seems like it would help prevent cuffs from getting lost when someone else transports the subject you arrested
+Hoosier Video Guy it is a great idea but somehow over the course of a decade we have managed to lose every pair of the dozen handcuffs we spray painted red and kept in the prisoner van. So, no promises that it will work. We also engrave our cuffs here to make them easier to tell apart and I have seen guys with cuffs that have one number scribbled out and their number engraved next to it
Have you ever seen the square "lock box" adaption for chain handcuffs? From what I understand they essentially turn your chain ( or other) handcuffs into that last pair. It's removable, and probably not as expensive as owning 3 or 4 different kinds of handcuffs ( I think they work with all brands). I know LA Police gear has them.
Those are "blue boxes" and they are an additional security measure on a normal pair of cuffs. They don't turn them into rigid cuffs because they make it impossible to open or close the cuffs. That is the whole idea of them.
I have a pair of alloy cuffs made Hiatt that also fit bigger than normal wrists without being as bulky as other oversized cuffs. They have to be the best set of chain cuffs I've seen and I don't think they make them anymore.
+Chris Jones well, that was anticlimactic. Let me know if you find them again.
Good video next time I get cuffed I will try to wriggle out. I may have to wait a while
Euan Miller I've screwed up a lot of cuffs in my life it's always better to start as early as possible
My Dept got a deal on cuffs with pink fuZzy liners. They are comfortable and sexy.
Dave Biddle this is just a nest of offenses
In all seriousness, I wonder if Tommy's dept. policy would allow fuzzy pink cuffs 😂
I wouldn’t mind getting cuffed by y’all. Lol
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TCH is amazing the 840 is the same as the hiatt just has a better grip and more easy to fight people with I work with the met I find it so fun when I fight people into cuffs I once broke an arm but 840 off 850 are great