Yeah Joe your explanations are a large part of why I like your channel...among other things. The fact that you're a regular guy who succeeds and fails is also a reason! I dig the fan! ...Newk from Kentucky
GE sure made a lot of first class appliances. My folks couldn't afford many, and so tried to save and buy quality when they did purchase, and General Electric and Westinghouse were always the top of the list and a source of contentment for them. I try to read comments before posting so I'm not repetitive. While there is nothing wrong with entertainment, the ratio you described of narrated to unnarrated in your example to me reflects a mounting concern about the passivity of our society. I've been given extra years to live, and I want to learn and grow as much as possible in the few I have left. Watching your videos both teaches me something every time, and it's like spending time with my best buddies in the shop.
Timing of this video couldn't be better! I bought the same fan several months ago on Ebay with the intent of bringing it back to life; just randomly decided to start working on it today and found your video(s).
Great start, looking forward to part two. I find I enjoy watching channels with commentary more than ones without. You get useful information about the restoration with the commentary.
Great video Joe. Very informative. Talking it out as you go is very helpful and I’m sure a lot of your subscribers agree. Looking forward to seeing how this old fan looks and runs when you are done. 👍🏼
Interesting video. Looking forward to part 2! When it comes to my own channel, I don't feel knowledgeable in anything I do enough to be "informative" to anyone. I just like editing and making videos and I like playing around in the shop. I watch different types of channels. Some are narrative and some are not. I get different things out of a variety of content creators. I do very much enjoy watching your process and learning from your experience. Yours is one of my favorite channels.
Thanks Ben, that is high praise. I think you channel is awesome, I really enjoy your content for a multitude of reason. I just wish you made daily video ;) Cheers
Your analisis on the trend of restoration is, in my opinion, spot on. I never felt particularly interested in these channels, I really got into tool restoration after I started watching ScoutCrafter, which eventually led to your channel and a buch of other folks. The history, the do's and don'ts, tricks of the trade and the overall knowledge that is passed down by guys like you is what really interest me.
In a way, you grant others permission to try for themselves, along with you, etc. I'm glad to hear that you do not dismiss this element of what you do. As always, thank you for the inclusion in your fun. It means much.
You're absolutely right Joe I watched the hand tool rescue yesterday and I was just thinking the same thing like I told you in my email. I like the narrative and why people are doing what they're doing that's why I enjoy your channel so much keep up the great work
Hi Joe! Nice project! Looks like this will be a great running fan... One reason that "Silent" videos get so much more views is the international audience... To hear babbling in another language can be annoying after a while... Silent videos are the same to everyone around the world! =) Thanks!
Thanks for posting this. I just bought a vortalex to restore and have been looking for an in depth video of this nature. You’re right, ASMR videos are useless for my purposes. Keep it up!
Those Vortalex are so classy looking, if you have pictures that you would like to share email me joeheilm@aol.com and I will include them in the video. Cheers
As long as you don't put any of that technocrap music on your videos you got me for life...those are the ones I actually turn sound off for. Yours, 357magdad, Scoutcrafter, Old Shovel, and some others are just nice to watch and learn
Good video and yes I prefer the narrative, so thank you. Please answer a question. So you can put the motor electrical parts in the washers? If I do not have a washer how would you clean the parts and what cleaning solution would you use? Thanks
Hi Tony, that is an excellent question. As far as I know, the windings should only be cleaned with the electric motor cleaner, which does not wash of the insulating varnish. I wish I knew more. Cheers
I'm the last guy to be giving electical wiring advice, but I would revisit your conclusions on the four wire connections. It looked original, but was disconnected at some earlier time. There are four connections in the motor field coil that are original manufacturer. I am thinking there may have been a problem in one or two of the speeds, and they were disconnected to keep the fan in service.
I had seen this before, i think having 2 wires is common. I'll need to do some more research, this was what i found so far...it appears to be a contentious topic afcaforum.com/forum1/12215.html cheers
Interesting link. May have been a stator swap and a four wire was available and only two were needed to attach to the coil. Way above my knowledge base. I have a friend that has an electric motor repair business. I help him with his 10" Atlas lathe and he helps me with motor stuff. I'll run this by him. Do you have the year/model number of the fan?
@@joeheilm Going to stop by my friend's electric shop today. I did some looking up of the GE number. Your final answer will likely be on the AFCA Forum. One link with wiring diagrams is: afcaforum.com/forum1/37909.html I only got this by looking up that GE number via eBay and came up with it as a type AOU GE fan. There is also a form sub-type as well, which I have no clue. Will get back to you later, likely tomorrow.
Also, just noticed bottom plate of fan that had felt at one time. Appears to be white markings, perhaps a further clue to type and form of the fan. Can you make it out at all?
Great job man!! Keep it up!! Anything electrical is over my head. Lol. I restored a fan once. It worked like yours so I just cleaned it and put a new cord on it. I am excited for part 2!! Are you going to do the C Clamp challenge?
antiquefancollectors.com/ this link will take you to the fan collector forum. It is a great resource, im sure they might give you some idea of the value. Good luck. Cheers
Great video. I also have this type of fan. I really appreciate any and all details given. Other videos do not give information. You are very helpful. My family thinks I’m crazy but I want to restore mine also. But my first problem is the fan blade won’t come off. Also Is there a list of supplies you used? Where do I find the cords to replace the old ones. I tried to google them but what do you call them? Thank you again.
Sorry for the late responce. Sometimes they stack set screws, so make sure there is not another set screw holding the blade on. As far as supplies, i dont really keep track of what i use, sorry. The cloth covered cords were hard to find...i forgot where i got mine. Sorry im not much help.
At 22:55, how did you finally get it apart? That's where I'm stuck now. I have penetrating oil in there and am waiting, but I am SO bad at being patient.
I just reached in and gently pulled and fiddled with it till i felt the windings move ever so slightly (independent of the outside housing), then i just rocked and rotated it till the windings popped out. I think you could gently tap on the laminated sections to help free it up. Im sorry i wish i could be more help...all i can say is keep at it. Also check out the antique fan community forums, they have lots of great info www.afcaforum.com/forum1/ . Cheers
Joe's Shop The penetrating oil seems to have done the trick; I was able to wedge it open. Now the rotor doesn’t spin freely but I think I’m jumping the gun on that.
It has a self aligning bearing that doesn't self align...it's so dumb. Once you get it reassembles smack the output shaft with a soft hammer and it will jar the bushing into place....I think I talk about it in the last video I made.
To engage the oscillator, you simply screw its knurled knob all the way in (down). All the way out (up), you're locking it in whatever position it's in, and in-between is free-wheeling. But I'd guess you'd've figured that out by now...
I believe the straight visual videos are also easier to produce. You don't have to figure out what you're going to say, or Mr Know it all isn't going to feel the need to correct you when you say something wrong. The videos have their place and they do well with some people. I do enjoy some story behind it though. Just like this video of Pirate Joe and his buried treasure. :)
Joe, not sure if you've already finished the fan by now but here's a good resource for new vintage looking wire that's UL rated. www.sundialwire.com/cart.aspx Regarding the silent vs. talking videos, I like both at times depending on how I'm feeling that day and if the discussion is project related. What worries me is that while UA-cam is a great way for some folks to make money, some channels are requiring patronage to get the narrated version. IMO this will be the death of UA-cam and the free sharing of information that puts repairs and knowledge back in the hands of the people. I'm not against capitalism but greed and self importance takes it a bit too far and ruins some things for everyone.
Steve that is an excellent position, to which I subscribe to entirely. The greed and self-importance are antithetical to what youtube is about, in my humble opinion. Thanks for the link on the wire. Cheers
Yeah Joe your explanations are a large part of why I like your channel...among other things. The fact that you're a regular guy who succeeds and fails is also a reason! I dig the fan! ...Newk from Kentucky
Hi Newk! Always a plesure to see your comments. Cheers
GE sure made a lot of first class appliances. My folks couldn't afford many, and so tried to save and buy quality when they did purchase, and General Electric and Westinghouse were always the top of the list and a source of contentment for them.
I try to read comments before posting so I'm not repetitive. While there is nothing wrong with entertainment, the ratio you described of narrated to unnarrated in your example to me reflects a mounting concern about the passivity of our society. I've been given extra years to live, and I want to learn and grow as much as possible in the few I have left. Watching your videos both teaches me something every time, and it's like spending time with my best buddies in the shop.
Marc, you are an integral part of my shop as well as many others, we thank you. Cheers
Please keep talking, Joe. I love the narrative. I learn as much from that as I do from the visual part. Plus I enjoy your sense of humor. 😊 ~Jeff
Thanks Jeff, that is very kind of you to say. Cheers
Timing of this video couldn't be better! I bought the same fan several months ago on Ebay with the intent of bringing it back to life; just randomly decided to start working on it today and found your video(s).
Awesome, I hope my video is of some help. I should have part 2 out in a couple days. Cheers
I always enjoy your content, but this has been one of my favorites by far. Looking forward to part 2! Thanks for what you do.
Thanks Jim! I am still painting so part 2 should be out in a few days. Cheers
Great start, looking forward to part two. I find I enjoy watching channels with commentary more than ones without. You get useful information about the restoration with the commentary.
Thanks Mike! Cheers
Great video Joe. Very informative. Talking it out as you go is very helpful and I’m sure a lot of your subscribers agree. Looking forward to seeing how this old fan looks and runs when you are done. 👍🏼
Hi David, thank you. I sure hope it works when I am done ;) Cheers
Interesting video. Looking forward to part 2!
When it comes to my own channel, I don't feel knowledgeable in anything I do enough to be "informative" to anyone. I just like editing and making videos and I like playing around in the shop. I watch different types of channels. Some are narrative and some are not. I get different things out of a variety of content creators.
I do very much enjoy watching your process and learning from your experience. Yours is one of my favorite channels.
Thanks Ben, that is high praise. I think you channel is awesome, I really enjoy your content for a multitude of reason. I just wish you made daily video ;) Cheers
Your analisis on the trend of restoration is, in my opinion, spot on. I never felt particularly interested in these channels, I really got into tool restoration after I started watching ScoutCrafter, which eventually led to your channel and a buch of other folks. The history, the do's and don'ts, tricks of the trade and the overall knowledge that is passed down by guys like you is what really interest me.
Hi .6666 lol. Scoutcrafter has done more for tool restoration than anyone, they should build a monument for him, he truly is a legend.
Thanks for posting your thought process during a project.
Hi Russ, my buddy Bill says "I could talk a dog off a meat truck" lol
In a way, you grant others permission to try for themselves, along with you, etc. I'm glad to hear that you do not dismiss this element of what you do. As always, thank you for the inclusion in your fun. It means much.
Hi Daniel, youtube is the perfect format for us all to individually work together....as strange as that sounds. Cheers
You're absolutely right Joe I watched the hand tool rescue yesterday and I was just thinking the same thing like I told you in my email. I like the narrative and why people are doing what they're doing that's why I enjoy your channel so much keep up the great work
Hi Bill, talking and writing things out is a great way for me to work through problems. Cheers
Nice looking fan Joe and I'm sure your dad will love it! They just don't make things like they used to! ♥️
Hi Niamh...I hope it works..he never asks me to restore stuff so I don't wanna mess this up. ;) Cheers
Hi Joe! Nice project! Looks like this will be a great running fan... One reason that "Silent" videos get so much more views is the international audience... To hear babbling in another language can be annoying after a while... Silent videos are the same to everyone around the world! =) Thanks!
That is an excellent point! The none English viewers never crossed my mind, I forget how global everything is these days. Cheers
I am totally with you on the electric stuff. I need to tape and label and sharpie mark every single thing.
Lol, I mark everything and I still let the smoke out occasionally. Cheers
Thanks for posting this. I just bought a vortalex to restore and have been looking for an in depth video of this nature. You’re right, ASMR videos are useless for my purposes. Keep it up!
Those Vortalex are so classy looking, if you have pictures that you would like to share email me joeheilm@aol.com and I will include them in the video. Cheers
As long as you don't put any of that technocrap music on your videos you got me for life...those are the ones I actually turn sound off for. Yours, 357magdad, Scoutcrafter, Old Shovel, and some others are just nice to watch and learn
Hi Greg, I just started following Old Shovel, his channel is great. I'll try and keep the techno to a minimum ;) Cheers
Thanks for the narration. There are still some of us left with attention spans longer than goldfish.
Lol.. that's good to know....sometimes I wonder 😂😂😂
You got one of the good fans here, Joe!
It is still running great. Cheers
Really liked your video. I like you talking. I do not like the silent ones. Keep up the good work. Thanks
Thank you Glen! Cheers
Found your channel through ScoutCrafter. Looking forward to more!
Good video and yes I prefer the narrative, so thank you. Please answer a question. So you can put the motor electrical parts in the washers? If I do not have a washer how would you clean the parts and what cleaning solution would you use? Thanks
Hi Tony, that is an excellent question. As far as I know, the windings should only be cleaned with the electric motor cleaner, which does not wash of the insulating varnish. I wish I knew more. Cheers
Always seeing old things being restored. Now Ill go to see part 2.
What part one was a success Joe that was pretty awesome
Thanks James! Cheers
I'm the last guy to be giving electical wiring advice, but I would revisit your conclusions on the four wire connections. It looked original, but was disconnected at some earlier time. There are four connections in the motor field coil that are original manufacturer. I am thinking there may have been a problem in one or two of the speeds, and they were disconnected to keep the fan in service.
I had seen this before, i think having 2 wires is common. I'll need to do some more research, this was what i found so far...it appears to be a contentious topic afcaforum.com/forum1/12215.html cheers
Interesting link. May have been a stator swap and a four wire was available and only two were needed to attach to the coil. Way above my knowledge base. I have a friend that has an electric motor repair business. I help him with his 10" Atlas lathe and he helps me with motor stuff. I'll run this by him. Do you have the year/model number of the fan?
That would be awesome. The only number on this GE fan is 528925. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated....i want to get this right. Cheers
@@joeheilm Going to stop by my friend's electric shop today. I did some looking up of the GE number. Your final answer will likely be on the AFCA Forum. One link with wiring diagrams is: afcaforum.com/forum1/37909.html I only got this by looking up that GE number via eBay and came up with it as a type AOU GE fan. There is also a form sub-type as well, which I have no clue. Will get back to you later, likely tomorrow.
Also, just noticed bottom plate of fan that had felt at one time. Appears to be white markings, perhaps a further clue to type and form of the fan. Can you make it out at all?
Great job man!! Keep it up!! Anything electrical is over my head. Lol. I restored a fan once. It worked like yours so I just cleaned it and put a new cord on it. I am excited for part 2!! Are you going to do the C Clamp challenge?
Hi Brian, yea a quick cleanup and a fresh cord is all they need most of the time. I do plan on doing a c-clamp challenge...it is gonna be fun. Cheers
I came across an Antique Desk Fan very similar to this one. Do it have any value? Where can I have it evaluated?
antiquefancollectors.com/ this link will take you to the fan collector forum. It is a great resource, im sure they might give you some idea of the value. Good luck. Cheers
HTR does a voice over version of each of his videos for his patreon subscribers.
I did not know that. Thanks
Yeah sometimes they just used Whatver wire they had on hand.
Fiber washers for axle, where does someone find new ones??
Great video. I also have this type of fan. I really appreciate any and all details given. Other videos do not give information. You are very helpful. My family thinks I’m crazy but I want to restore mine also. But my first problem is the fan blade won’t come off. Also Is there a list of supplies you used? Where do I find the cords to replace the old ones. I tried to google them but what do you call them? Thank you again.
Sorry for the late responce. Sometimes they stack set screws, so make sure there is not another set screw holding the blade on. As far as supplies, i dont really keep track of what i use, sorry. The cloth covered cords were hard to find...i forgot where i got mine. Sorry im not much help.
Tengo un General Electric sin motor, me podrías dar alguna sugerencia para restaurarlo? Qué clase de motor podría ser compatible con él mismo. Gracias
At 22:55, how did you finally get it apart? That's where I'm stuck now. I have penetrating oil in there and am waiting, but I am SO bad at being patient.
I just reached in and gently pulled and fiddled with it till i felt the windings move ever so slightly (independent of the outside housing), then i just rocked and rotated it till the windings popped out. I think you could gently tap on the laminated sections to help free it up. Im sorry i wish i could be more help...all i can say is keep at it. Also check out the antique fan community forums, they have lots of great info www.afcaforum.com/forum1/ . Cheers
Joe's Shop The penetrating oil seems to have done the trick; I was able to wedge it open. Now the rotor doesn’t spin freely but I think I’m jumping the gun on that.
It has a self aligning bearing that doesn't self align...it's so dumb. Once you get it reassembles smack the output shaft with a soft hammer and it will jar the bushing into place....I think I talk about it in the last video I made.
@@joeheilm I really appreciate your help!!!
@@CouchSttr it's my pleasure. Cheers
To engage the oscillator, you simply screw its knurled knob all the way in (down). All the way out (up), you're locking it in whatever position it's in, and in-between is free-wheeling. But I'd guess you'd've figured that out by now...
Joe this is going to be fun
Hi Tom, I am still waiting on paint to dry. I can't wait to get this running again. Cheers
Hot dog test! Hot dog test!
clayheilm I agree!!!!!!
Good job 👍
I believe the straight visual videos are also easier to produce. You don't have to figure out what you're going to say, or Mr Know it all isn't going to feel the need to correct you when you say something wrong. The videos have their place and they do well with some people. I do enjoy some story behind it though. Just like this video of Pirate Joe and his buried treasure. :)
HI Bradley, that is an interesting point. My difficulty with speaking is keeping my story straight ;) Cheers
that cable sounded C R I S P Y
General Electric fan bello
Gracias Alessando. Cheers
In today's date it's difficult to get these type of fans
For sure....especially with brass blades. Cheers
@@joeheilm yeah and the design of these fans make it look unique!
Don’t put grease in these, only oil. Grease will clog the bearings and wear them out
Joe, not sure if you've already finished the fan by now but here's a good resource for new vintage looking wire that's UL rated. www.sundialwire.com/cart.aspx
Regarding the silent vs. talking videos, I like both at times depending on how I'm feeling that day and if the discussion is project related. What worries me is that while UA-cam is a great way for some folks to make money, some channels are requiring patronage to get the narrated version. IMO this will be the death of UA-cam and the free sharing of information that puts repairs and knowledge back in the hands of the people. I'm not against capitalism but greed and self importance takes it a bit too far and ruins some things for everyone.
Steve that is an excellent position, to which I subscribe to entirely. The greed and self-importance are antithetical to what youtube is about, in my humble opinion. Thanks for the link on the wire. Cheers
In vietnam 🇻🇳
I liked.
I want this fan please sell me
Lol...sorry I don't sell my projects