MOOER: GE200 Modelling/Multi-Effects - In-context demo.
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
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Mooer's GE200 offers very portable and very powerful tone creation with pretty much all you'll need for a stage or studio session. You'll get dozens of amp, cab and effects models plus the ability to import your own Impulse Responses. You can assign one of the stereo outputs to have cab modelling on or off making the GE200 a true stage-friendly device for those who want to use an amp in conjunction with it and whilst giving the front of house full cabinet simulation. The GE200 sounds great, is built tough and it's going to be affordable for most. I can't fault it and I know they're working on firmware updates to make it better than it already is now. A winner.
This is a one take, on-the-fly affair using a few presets that I'd likely use on stage myself. I could have spent hours scrolling through all of the available amp, cab and effects on offer, but there are already a ton of videos out there that have done this, including extensive how-to's on MOOER's own channel.
Today's tools:
Guitar: 2017 Ernie Ball Music Man Axis Super Sport (stock).
Cables: Free The Tone
Power Supply: Supplied
Mic: Samson Airline77 (me)
Camera: Canon 60D (me) and Nikon D5100 (pedal)
Soundcard: AVID Mbox Pro 3 (for recording) & Fractal Audio Systems Axe-FX II XL+ (mixing and bouncing).
Computer: Apple iMac 27" i7 3.4 GHz 16 GB RAM
Software: Logic Pro X, Eventide/Newfangled Audio ‘Elevate’ Mastering Limiter, Apple Final Cut Pro X (video editing and UA-cam compression).
Maybe this one was the best video demo of a multi fx that I have ever watched. The blend between playing, text and features is pure gold. Congrats!!
Just got mine today. I feel like this video basically tell me everything I need to know
Now this is what a demo should be like! Enough action to display what the tool can do and all done in six minutes. Very efficient, well done Burgs.
Excellent
I own a Mooer GE 200 as well, but you make it sing with your tasty playing. Plus I really dig your Musicman Guitar, Plus Plus, your video was an excellent tutorial of the unit itself. I've watched a ton of "Demo" videos about the unit, but by far yours was the most enjoyable to showcase it's ability of dialing in nearly any tone you could want to achieve. Lastly, that backing track was a perfect groove to put the icing on the top. Cheers Mate
Thanks, Alan. Very kind of you to take the time to leave this encouraging comment. All the best to you.
You are the Beatles of product demos.
watching several demos, this is only one i have to comment on for the great effort put in editing. lots of slice and dice there to make it a long jam.
This is a great demo. Every patch/setting sounds great and distinct. I think I'm sold. (Really nice playing, too BTW.)
Great to hear this demo in context. Superb playing too. One of the best reviews of any product I’ve watched. Mooer ought to be paying you because I’ve just ordered one based on this review. All I need to do is get my playing up to that level. Really nice melodic playing rather than widely nonsense. Thank you.
Mooer , Boss, Zoom, Headrush they all make good sounding multi fx and if you imagine the price of three MXR pedals they all are very affordable.
Best demo of the ge200 I’ve heard!
Oh man you really do such spot on reviews. Total respect dude! This pedal looks fun
I've been praising this little beast all over YT. 'Been playing since the late 70's and this is likely one of the most surprising purchases of guitar gear I've run across. I power it with a Seymour Duncan Powerstage 170 into a 4x12 and with some particular good IRs, it just flat out slays. The Choptones packages for the GE200 are icing on the cake. As usual Brett, great playing and another fine demo.
Maxx61 agreed fantastic unit
Which IR's do you use?
Thanks, looks like a decent little unit. I became distracted half way through because you reminded me of somebody, then it came to me. There's a distinct similarity to a younger Eric Clapton.
Cool demo, probably the best I've seen for this unit.
Such lyrical playing, dude.
And the best reviews on youtube
4:12 whoever came up with "Two Stones" deserves a raise
why?
Two Rock
Bravo, Brett! Great run through and incredible playing. Thanks!
You were enjoying that ... it showed.
Nice Skunk Baxter stylee going on there.
I just got the Radar. Almost wishing I'd gone the rest of the way and got the GE-200 now.
The other demos I heard were more metal oriented, but you've showed it can do "tasteful" too.
The best review of GE200!!!
Very very very nice demo!!! 👏👏👏
Brett Kingman, you’re such an amazing player. Those tasty lick, love it!
Thanks, Alex. Years of just mucking about, but I appreciate your kind words. Al the best to you. Cheers. :)
Great work as always Brett !! And was great to see you back on shane's summit hang out !! :)
Fantastic demo. Makes me want to go out and buy one!
THANKS for this! I just bought one of these, have been playing with it for a few days. This is the first I've heard about the PC editing app. I'll have to check that out.
great video, really a great demo, good playing, very good production
Phenomenal Video! Thanks for all you do Brett!...Gonna go get me one of these...like right now!
Superb review and superb playing! Thank you
I love your demo.
I catch all i need
Good job...finding to help several hidden options...
Nice playing, man. Thanks for the demo
Great review man, I'm going to pick one up, your awesome review sold me!!new sub and thumbs up!!
Ps. Your an awesome player
Brett, hi, thanks for the demo on the ge 200 i think i have to have it mate. I think it's definately worth upgrading to the 200 because from what i've seen it's 3 times the machine the 100 is. Anyway have a great weekend.
I could drive my wife up the wall with that backing track. Jams for hours.
She'll get along famously with my wife who has already scaled our wall. They can meet on the ceiling.
Too Funny!!!
What exactly is the Jam track?
Great demo sir
I Use the GE100 and its really good but this looks even better!! Must get to the store and try it out.
my fraustration is that.. the controls must be done by foot, not by fingers.. wish Mooer realize to improve GE300 with 100% foot adjustments.. coz it meant on the floor.. and thats the future, i think😊
Next gen multieffect
Amazing demo Brett👍
Nice playing, nice demo...
Excellent!
Million THX!!!
Brilliant demo dude I've gone pretty deep with this unit if you would like to see some of the weirder effects 🎸👊👍
Sweet chops! Major key soloing is my achilles’ heel.
It's strange, that there is almost nobody on UA-cam using this pedal with an tube amp
Really awesome precise superb demo
Awesome talent and vid!!!
Nice ! can i ask your opinion , there's a huge price diff to jump up to an ax8 or helix from this , is the sound difference that much in comparison , does this get close to those units or is noticeably cheaper sounding in person ? just soundwise , not functionality obviously . sounds awesome on UA-cam !
id like to know this also
I've owned various tube amps(currently have a h&k grandmeister 40) and used to own an axe fx standard and played through my buddy's axe fx ultra. I've never played this unit, but I can tell you that I can tell the difference in dynamics and response through the various demos. In mixes, it can sound awesome depending on the person, but you can tell it's digital on solo'd tracks.
With that said, I used to love my axe fx standard. It was my primary rig for years. It sounded great and could really get close to tube tone and was insanely customizable. Effects were fucking amazing, too. I've never played through an AX8, but badly wanted on for the longest.
However, while fractal gear is wildly good and will definitely be superior sounding to the ge200(Even though it is an awesome piece of gear especially for its amazing price), there's something very small and subtle that the axe fx was missing from achieving that real tube compression and response. Not that it's awful, and I'm sure the Axe II and III get closer, with more powerful DSPs.
They are amazing, sound good in mixes, and are just flat out awesome pieces of gear that I'd buy in a heartbeat if I had money like that. But, if price and quality of tone are your primary concerns, I would highly suggest going the tube/cab sim route. Nowadays, lunch box heads are super cheap. Plus, you have the two notes products or the Mooer Radar. Or you can go the tube preamp pedal route. There's a lot of options out there that don't have to cost you an arm and a leg that will sound amazing.
If you have the money, I'd say screw and grab the Ax8. I probably wouldn't recommend the Helix though. Quality isn't there for the price. Effects sound great, but high gain tones are kinda ass and I'd put that over sweet effects in terms of priority.
ThursdayMonkey475 .... thank you , awesome reply ! nice to hear from people with actual experience .
i have an ax8 on order due any day now , it comes with a 15 day return policy , at this point im sure ill return it due to the interface as i don't want to run a pc everytime i use it .
i was hoping the mooer may suit for so much less money .
im soley after the 80s boogie mark sounds like old metallica , i want it to sound like that amp in the room with me , so ill plug the ax8 into a real cab & power amp .
maybe a mark v 25 head would've been better but i think ill take the ax8 to the shop & compare them , i tried the v 25 once & it didn't have enough gain in person , yet on UA-cam clips they scream ....anyway thank you for such a good reply , appreciate it
Axe have moved production of AX8 to China and are not updating it anytime soon and remember it has some serious drawbacks compared to its big brother, single amp etc. I was lucky to see Tom Quayle live using AX8 and Jack Thammarat using Helix and Jack sounded crisper and better. Alex uses a pedal board. I went to the Boss Katana 100 as a practice amp because of the FX in it and ease of use. I have 30 pedals and 5 amps and would get a GE200 and set it up for jam use as you only need to plug it into a PA or a house amp set clean and you will get your sounds. So horses for courses. Its a quarter the price, but with custom IRs from Celestion or Hammer a blind test you would difficulty noticing the difference markably. In some cases I have seen people use this when they thought it was the AX8!!
Verny nice guitar I have 2 Wolfgang's and a sub ax 3sounds awesome I will be getting one soon
Exellent video💥🤘🏻
Sounds very good!
great playing
Solid demo sir Godbless 👍
If you made all those changes on my old Digitech RP1000 this video would have been 2 hours long.
What a great processor...
WOW!!!!
YOU GOOD!!
Very nice!
You did a demo on a couple of Mooer mini preamp pedals which I believe this unit has in it as well. Do those amp models sound the same as the pedals? Better or different ?
Thanks !
I'm not sure whether they're the same models or not. The big difference in the interfaces makes it hard to tell and I haven't tried to do an A/B. Too much to do here.. Cool little pedal, though. I reckon it will suit a lot of players who don't need tons of options or control on the fly. But even so, it still packs a convincing wallop and the ability to import your own IR's makes it even more appealing, I think. Especially for the price asked which is usually well under $500 locally.
Brett Kingman Cool! Thanks for the info 😎 Nice playing by the way !
These modelers are so good and tempting. I had the zoom g5 years ago and my problem with these all-in-one multi-effects are just not that sturdy. Yes, the case are built like a tank but the rest? :/
Which do you think have the best hard rock 80s tones. The zoom g3x or the mooer ge200.??
Thanks for the demo!
Anyone here with experience can answer me? How good is the sound using the headphones out? How good is it.to record with? I don't t expect the highest quality but I would be using this way a lot. Thanks!
I played it with headphones and it sounds great.
I have recorded with it and it also sounds great.
My friends play live shows with this pedal connected to the PA. No amps. Just guitar->GE200->PA and nobody knew they were playing without real amps!
@@dntinpalevo thank you! I'm still waiting for mine. I like that it is bery portable as well. Cheers!
Great video and awesome play. How about the dotted eight U2 (The Edge) delay style quality in GE200?
Thanks for your review! Amazing demo and awesome playing! By the way, where to get this backing track?
very nice
would love to just carry this and nothing else wonder if I could get it to work for me well enough live
Would you be able to flick between presets mid song like jumping between a clean and something more crunchy without having to bend down and playing with knobs? Sounds great either way.
how many effects? I see so much different information online! I see 70 effects and I also see about 155 effects.
A quick question for anybody who has used this unit on stage. Does having limited bank up/down buttons prove to be a struggle while switching effects??
it has a looper and a drum/rhythm machine also am I CORRECT?
Can you rearrange the sequence of the preset? Say I want P1 and P153 next to each other.
Is there a reason why everybody uses the modulation after the amp and cab section?
I have my chain structured like I would do in real life.
Meaning wah/od/mod/comp/noisegate before the amp and cab and reverb and delay after it.
Brett, the usual superlative demo and playing :) Interested in this thing, a first for me with Mooer. So, would it be kind of fair to say that this unit might be a good kind of fly-rig alternative to taking my AX8 around when I don't really need to? The build quality itself looks pretty sweet, definitely seems more sturdy than the newish, similar kind of small Boss MFX unit, which is a whole lotta plastic....
How do you think this little puppy might sound running through something like an HK Grandmeister 40 or other amps instead of just direct?
cheers and tia
Yep, a good alternative to the AX8 except you won't have seperate foot control over individual blocks, only whatever you can group into the CTRL/TAP function. If that's not an issue, I think it would be fine. If it was used purely as a multi-effects without the amp and cab sims into an amp I can only guess that it would be fine, but I haven't tried it like that yet so I can't be sure. Best to consult people who are using it that way, I think.
Cheers Burgs! Thanks for putting this thing on my radar :D
The Ge-200 at the end it's a totally different kind of beast compared with the AX8 - the AX8 in my opinion has far more options for playing live ...think about the 8 scenes potential with 8 different rig combinations under your foot when the GE-200 might work with just two. Then 200 presets slots against 560. If you like to add new IR that can make a difference. That said, the GE-200 is not a bad pieceof gear at all but keep in mind that its costs is approx 1/4 of the AX8 so there must be a difference somewhere.
+Giancarlo Paolini Indeed, thanks for replying. Yeah, no way I am thinking this Ge-200 is in the same class as my beloved AX8 :D But again, I'm just kinda thinking of a super-tiny fly rig thing - no muss, no fuss. It does all the basic stuff for sure I would think and the form factor seems ideal. Need to hear this in front of an amp myself though.
cheers!
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Hi, you used the mbox pro3 to connect with L+R cables for this sample recorded? Is the usb recording quality good? Low noise and Latency? I'm using Logic Pro X.
Nice music!
I was hoping someone in Montreal would carry these so I could directly compare it to my Boss GT-1. I was looking for a backup to my GT-1 and was thinking the GE200 might be it. Since I couldn't try one I ended up getting a 2nd GT-1.
I have to say, though, that the GE200 sounded pretty darn good in your demo, Brett. I've seen many people praise the amp models and take a dump all over the effects in the unit. What's your take?
My take is, for the money, it's pretty unbeatable. I can't think of much else that offers what this little fella does for US$300 or thereabouts. I'd only ever use basic old-school style effects and there are plenty of adequate ones to be found here. Couple that with a great GUI and the ability to load your own IR's and I have to say it's pretty great.
Thanks, Brett. I may try to get one of these from an online retailer. Bloody G.A.S. Never satisfied, are we?
has anyone tried this and the preamp live, for direct tones and recording.... there are no videos or reviews about the two... I would like to know if its worth buying the preamp live or does it basically sound the same as the GE200
I didn't see an explicit "power amp IR" section covered in the demo. I am left wondering if the amp models in this pedal model just the *preamp* of each amp???
Well, there was the power amp tube character at the 4:40 mark of the video which did have an impact on the sound as a whole. Or were you wanting to get into specifics of what tubes, how many, pentode/triode operation, etc.?
@@justsomeguynamedrobgaming9691 you're right, some of the parameters pertain to the power amp section. However, IIRC (this is going back 5 months ago and I did not end up keeping this unit), there was no IR capability. So preamp and power amp modeling - yes, IRs -no.
@@MrKingswebe all things considered, still pretty remarkable what they can add to a small budget multi-fx. The days of crappy Digitech mfx are thankfully long behind us.
That Steely Dan sound?
Burgs, how do like the OD and DS tones of this as compared to the darker sounds of the Mooer Red Truck?
Mooer is not darker sounded play with the eq mon
Can you save drum track and BPM on a patch?
How are the amp models compare to Axe FX 2?
Are they on par or far from it?
Can anyone confirm preset 08 and 09 names from factory as im unsure if mine is a brand new unit Thanks
Hi Brett. Did you go direct in to the Sound Card, ou did you amp it?
Straight to the MBox 3 Pro. I wouldn't amp a modeller.
Do you know if it‘s possible to set the delay by BPM?
i need these presets :(
You can put your own IR's on the Mooer?
If you could nly have 1 rig for plaing in clubs and going direct in a pa. Would you choose a mooer ge200 or hotone ampero. I need a clean, rythm and solo channel with tap tempo.
I have heard it live, connected straight to the PA and it sounds great!
can i usee this with boss katana 100 ?
Hi Brett, a while ago you demonstrated the Boss me 80. Comparable? Big Thnx for your reviews! Greetings from the Low Countries.
Rein Vanderweij I'd like to know how it compares too
Pretty groovy...
hey burgs which one do you like better, atomic amplifirebox or this mooer ge200 and why? which has better sounding amp sims, more realistic?
I'd probably go for this one for the interface which I'd use live. If it was just a studio machine the hardware would be largely irrelevant as I'd use the GUI and keep the hardware out of the way. They both have their pluses and minuses in the modelling department but I haven't sized them against each other yet.
I tried to get a Firebox and their shipment is just unacceptable, so if that is the case wonder what happened if it went wrong. GE200 plentiful everywhere and it is a footswitch with multiple presets as opposed to a few. My dealer says the firebox has good models for recording, but for live GE200 is more popular
Im a noob, what means IR?
How would you rate this against an amp sim?
It is an amp sim - with a ton of effects as well.
So Brett, this unit only has 3 presets? Twin. Soldano, and little something?
No. They are the three presets I wrote. There are dozens of factory presets and 200 places to save them.
Typical BK excellence, but I doubt very much that I can make this sound so good. : (
I like your videos! ;) ... and this song ;)))) E-Mail follows!
Nobody mentiones the fact that this unit can destroy your guitar speakers. When you accidently push the rhytm button the sound wil come in at full level. You cannot store a lower level. After each reboot max. level kicks in!