Sebastien Flute NEO Riser Review | Unboxing, Setup, Tuning and Scoring

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  • I give this Sebastien Flute NEO Riser an honest review and see what $180 can get you in a riser. I setup, tune and score with this SF NEO riser at 18m/20yds and see what this bow feels like and give you insight into this bow before you consider buying it.
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  • @leductuanmail
    @leductuanmail 2 роки тому +39

    It's really nice to have some lower end and budget friendly equipment reviews, I think it will capture more audiences because frankly the one that is looking for information is the beginner ones, veterans know what are they doing already. Some mix and match will definitely boost the viewer count. Great work Jake, love all of your videos, keep it up

  • @Sertao2013
    @Sertao2013 Рік тому +4

    I like that you did the cheaper bow . That's what most of us beginners are looking at . It would be great if you could work your way up in price with the different bows so we would know what bow is the best you can get for the cheapest price . Something that ticks all the boxes you are looking for and feels good enough so a beginner can keep the bow and use it for a long time .

  • @stephenpidwell3427
    @stephenpidwell3427 Рік тому +11

    Really enjoyed seeing an expert give a considered opinion on budget equipment, would love to see more.👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @chaaazgould4828
    @chaaazgould4828 Рік тому

    This was an awesome review! Thank you!

  • @rickgoing7027
    @rickgoing7027 Рік тому +1

    Great every man’s review! Keep it up!

  • @nigelbailey609
    @nigelbailey609 Рік тому

    Thanks Jake really enjoyed this video .

  • @jcgardner5852
    @jcgardner5852 2 роки тому +1

    I really like this video and others with your reactions to different equipment. Bows etc. Thank you

  • @beemoney19
    @beemoney19 Рік тому +1

    An extremely helpful review for me, thanks Jake! Very new to the hobby and am interested in this specific riser for my first one. Definitely considering pulling the trigger on it.

  • @floppytnarwal1641
    @floppytnarwal1641 Рік тому

    Really nice to see reviews of affordable gear. As a beginner this really helps deciding what riser to go for. Really enjoying your content.

  • @rfdsrd
    @rfdsrd 7 місяців тому

    Good review, straight and to the point, good and not-so-good. Perfect timing as I'll this riser for my grandson, thank you.

  • @s.a.lenovo9262
    @s.a.lenovo9262 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for your great work! I like all of your videos and would be happy to see more productreviews. The Kinetic Sovren also seems to be a good choice when setup correctly. It is also a low budget riser.

  • @HambledonRehab
    @HambledonRehab 2 роки тому +7

    Great video, thank you 👍
    Be great to have a run down of your ‘top picks’ for beginner and intermediate risers / bows 🙏

  • @tradlifeoutdoors6459
    @tradlifeoutdoors6459 Рік тому

    Great info! I just subbed and already improving my shooting.

  • @sweetjamhit
    @sweetjamhit 2 роки тому +9

    Really interesting review Jake, particularly when you're talking about bow feel... most of us wouldn't pick up on those subtle nuances so it's super insightful to watch.

    • @lupusverdi
      @lupusverdi Рік тому +3

      I always go for feel. A bow setup that feels good and right will always be preferable to one that is tuned to perfection by the book. It's a mental sport after all where you need to be confident about your equipment 100%

  • @Zorndar83
    @Zorndar83 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting, I would love a review if their highend risers. Especially considering the finish and pocket design. With the long break for their production, and rasio silence, its refreshing to see any review of their lineup.

  • @w.gordonfocht9671
    @w.gordonfocht9671 Рік тому +3

    Appreciate the multiple camera angles in the scoring segment.

  • @robertpaulesson3270
    @robertpaulesson3270 Рік тому

    Jake, excellent review of the SF NEO. Please could you do one of the next riser up (the EVO) with both SF NEO (wood/glass) and SF EVO (carbon) limbs as this is what most newbie archers buying the EVO riser will start with. Also low poundage shoot would be good, so you're covering all the basis of beginners, intermediate/ club archers and world class experts like yourself. Terrific channel. I'm subscribed to dozens and dozens and this is one of the very best, no question. Thx.

  • @RacielDiaz
    @RacielDiaz Рік тому +1

    Just getting into archery and my friend suggested your channel. So far I'm loving all the content and am trying not to feel overwhelmed with all the information ^_^
    That being said, thanks for providing an honest review on a riser you wouldn't normally use. If you don't have it on your list yet, please add the Kinetic Vygo to future risers to review.

    • @vaazig
      @vaazig Рік тому

      It's a very good riser indeed.

  • @tsdamole
    @tsdamole 5 місяців тому

    love the lower end reviews, perhaps barebow focused review like the kinetic vygo next?

  • @RobNG26
    @RobNG26 Рік тому

    Another great video, nice to see beginner gear can get good scores. Something I’ve been struggling with finding answers to is as you move up in distance, carbon arrows are recommended. Obviously it means more gear, but carbon arrows vs xx75, what changes as you move up in draw weight, these are the types of thing that are unclear, difficult to research with internet experts, and could definitely add up if you haven’t already wasted your money a few times.

  • @DustinLeroy
    @DustinLeroy Рік тому

    great review jake, you should really test it on 70m!

  • @peterxyz3541
    @peterxyz3541 2 роки тому +2

    I just noticed the NICE bamboo laminate table top 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Also, I own several (all used gear) W&W risers under the Flute brand

  • @ZephrusPrime
    @ZephrusPrime Рік тому +2

    I still love my SF Forged+. SF has good mid tier gear and is great on a budget. Bow sounds great btw.

  • @dermaulwurf5540
    @dermaulwurf5540 Рік тому

    Again, a nice video, thanks for that.
    I started my archer life with an older bow of Sebastian Flute, the brand name was SF and the dealer said to me, that the bow and limps are from w&w. That should be the reason for the good quallity.
    I don't know, where this riser was built. But a friend of mine has an Sebastian Flute "EVO". The riser is fine, too. But I think the finnishing could be better. There are sharp corners , I mean they feel like they are sharp. I think they could have been rounded.
    At the end it's a nice beginner riser for small money!

  • @bradyca04
    @bradyca04 Рік тому

    I'll take the guess and say somewhere between 285 and 295, before watching, great video keep it up

  • @azzlaziz
    @azzlaziz 2 роки тому +2

    Armin Hirmer has a thing where those who buy new bows could send it to him first for him to review, then he sends it back to them when he's done.
    I know with the pandemic, shipping prices have been quite high but maybe this is a way to bring in more equipment for review. Maybe less so for the lower priced stuff.

  • @gibsonlife573
    @gibsonlife573 Рік тому

    Good job man

  • @lordcarnorjax8599
    @lordcarnorjax8599 2 роки тому +1

    I predicted 288 as the score. As Maxwell Smart used to say "missed it by that much". The riser looks like a good beginner riser. Better than my Cartel Fantom was, seemed to tune very quick for you too.

  • @salamanderpete
    @salamanderpete Рік тому

    Guessing 282. Love this style of video by the way 👍

  • @TracyPicabia
    @TracyPicabia Рік тому

    @22:35 No that probably aint pure luck. As you said you've set up a million bows. Wish setting up didnt usually take me for EVER ! Really enjoyed this one. Cheers.

  • @dazmalski
    @dazmalski Рік тому

    Just bought this riser so was wondering how it would do in capable hands. Complete amateur here, so for money spent, I'm thinking I did OK. Very informative video, appreciate it. All the other stuff you do with it is going beyond my "paygrade". Fine tuning, clicker, audio feedback, feel feedback etc. I'm not even anywhere near there yet but I like how you present and I'm looking forward to watching a lot more of your stuff.

    • @dazmalski
      @dazmalski Рік тому

      Instead of editing above I mean I'm a beginner! (not an amateur) I think another comment will help the ggog algo so slapping an extra one in

  • @FrankSevenSeven
    @FrankSevenSeven Рік тому

    nice video thanks.

  • @louis-paulpelland5359
    @louis-paulpelland5359 Рік тому

    Thanks for that review. My favorite archery shop in Montreal offers the SF NEO riser & limbs and I am considering buying one. I wonder how the limbs you chose to test it make a significant performance difference. The NEOs are carbon on wood core. I am an intermediate shooter, pushing arrows on mid 60s vintage bows, around 100 arrows a day. I want to progressively increase draw weight while maintaining form, using ILF in the process.

  • @Statch.
    @Statch. Рік тому +4

    Nice video !
    You definitely have to try Kinetic stuffs !
    I use the Kinetic Arios 2 riser for 2 years now with Kinetic Honoric limbs, and i think it's the perfect setup for beginners ! (Kinetic Valenz riser looks good too)
    Kinetic Honoric and Palmaris limbs have one of the best value for money in this price bracket

    • @salamanderpete
      @salamanderpete Рік тому +1

      I have the Arios2 as well. Similar price to this SF, and I think it seems better...

    • @simonrastbichler3373
      @simonrastbichler3373 Рік тому +2

      I recently bought my wife a kinetic valenz riser and honoric limbs. She's really happy with it and I think it's a great bow at that price (250 euros for riser and limbs). Looks great and shoots flawlessly...

  • @biketron
    @biketron 2 роки тому +2

    Sebastian Flute, I didn't have a problem with their equipment. I still have an SF Forged plus riser sitting on the shelf. It was good piece for what it cost.

    • @Xinoball
      @Xinoball 2 роки тому +1

      That is a Winwin product, and this is another factor call GK

    • @biketron
      @biketron 2 роки тому +1

      @@Xinoball I know the SF Forged plus was manufactured by Win&Win. Matter of fact W&W is still using the SF name.
      As for Sebastian Flute's new stuff, the EVO carbon limbs are pretty good.

  • @Carnax6969
    @Carnax6969 10 місяців тому

    This video really highlights that form, tuning, and technique are what really matters for archery performance. I've stubborn club members who keep buying high end equipment and still complain that their scores aren't improving, even though a few members and myself keep telling them that their form and tech needs working on. I guess the archery store person knows that they've found whales.

  • @InFerrumVeritas
    @InFerrumVeritas Рік тому +1

    So this riser can obviously perform quite well, but I don’t like recommending risers that are cast or have weight limits. I’ve seen a couple crack, and that’s more than I’d like to see. This riser’s big brother, the Evo, is a shockingly nice riser for the price. It’s anodizing is as nice as that on my Xceed (and nicer than my GT), and it’s machined from a single billet, so no weight limit.
    What I would love to see you tackle though is limbs vs risers in terms of how a bow feels and performs. Cheap limbs vs mid range vs high end on a cheap riser and a flagship riser. I’d also love to see more budget limb reviews. High end Hoyt, W&W, Uukha, Fivics, MK limbs will all perform really well, but what about the sub-$300 limbs most people are buying? WNS, Kinetic, Galaxy. The brands you see at local JOAD events.

  • @garyhiggins6718
    @garyhiggins6718 Рік тому

    Hi Jake, you know, with that sight block issue, you could also design a really fancy clicker plate, perhaps polished aluminium that bolts on and is held in place.by the sight block screws! 😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @rockyliao8190
    @rockyliao8190 Рік тому +1

    This is my first riser and the one I am using now. The shopper recommended this one and I just brought it because I knew nothing at that time. The review is very helpful.
    Will you recommend a high-end riser? Or some mid-end $500 is enough for a barebow shooter?

  • @ddeboy002
    @ddeboy002 Рік тому +1

    I think this is a great starter bow. I'd like to see you shoot it bare though.

  • @TracyPicabia
    @TracyPicabia Рік тому

    I'd love a review of a Wiawis nano max only because I'm ridiculously in love with mine and it only cost me $395 almost good as new

  • @sh4969
    @sh4969 Рік тому

    I like to see the White Feather starling being reviewed

  • @jcgardner5852
    @jcgardner5852 2 роки тому +1

    If you would/can please do video on the Topoint bows. They have 3 levels of risers and limb designs. I am interested in your reactions to them.

  • @bigdave6194
    @bigdave6194 Рік тому

    I would love to see a decent review of the Galaxy Solstice 25 inch riser. I have not found one anywhere and it is on the same level as this Sebastien. I have agonized over which one I want for weeks now

  • @-fazik-3713
    @-fazik-3713 2 роки тому +3

    While I understand why high end equipment costs as much as it does (+1% in the Olympics is a HUGE gap) the lower price equipment has the best price / quality ratio. It will pump great results. If there is a good archer behind the bow. It is 97% the archer anyways ;).

  • @RickV6
    @RickV6 Рік тому

    Great content bud. I presume the riser has limited draw weight because it is a cast piece instead of being forged or machined from a solid billet of metal. How much difference would there be with budget limbs fitted? Am i right in thinking that they are more important than the riser and therefore spending more money on? these limbs are £700/$900. Is it worth buying a cast riser or pay more for a machined one?

  • @74Interceptor
    @74Interceptor 4 місяці тому

    Hi, should I use all 4 screws of my WIAIWS WS700 sight-block to mount it on my WIAIWS ATF-DX which also has 4 bores for mounting the sight-block? Greetings from Germany

  • @benjaminauza2909
    @benjaminauza2909 2 роки тому +4

    Reviews of the higher end bows from sf would be great

    • @lupusverdi
      @lupusverdi Рік тому

      I own an iso pro and love it. I also think it looks a lot better than the blocky ascent

    • @benjaminauza2909
      @benjaminauza2909 Рік тому

      @@lupusverdi that’s cool, I’ve always liked the looks of that bow

    • @claudioolate2516
      @claudioolate2516 Рік тому

      I'm looking to buy either one of those risers. Honestly i like more that blocky look that the ascend has, but the price is way higher and there is not much info about it online. The iso pro looks great too and it's more affordable. Could you give me your thoughts about it please? To make a more informed purchase. Greetings from 🇨🇱

  • @claudioolate2516
    @claudioolate2516 Рік тому +1

    Is the tuning for performance book available in E-book format?

  • @edwardlaw797
    @edwardlaw797 29 днів тому

    Add thin layer of neoprene at the limb touch point

  • @anibalarbieto1990
    @anibalarbieto1990 Рік тому

    Hi Jake, do you know where can I buy this riser in US with delivery to Vancouver?

  •  Рік тому

    Thanks

    •  Рік тому

      Also, for beginner sets, especially for barebow setup , I suggest using entry-level upgrade options. Like simple weights only etc. Something low-key badass.
      PS. It's my second day with this riser. It’s my first set ever. Love everything right now.

    • @JakeKaminskiArchery
      @JakeKaminskiArchery  Рік тому

      Thank you!

  • @blackriflex39
    @blackriflex39 Рік тому

    i know to shorten the length of the video youve began speeding up things.. i just would like to add that ive actually learned alot by just hearing you talk during things like the fast
    fwd of the video on the limb alignment.. not criticizing you just giving you viewer feed back

  • @wenjunong2914
    @wenjunong2914 Рік тому

    you should try Junxing H7 riser it looks like xceed

  • @julianeducraft1769
    @julianeducraft1769 6 місяців тому

    is it compatible with other limbs such as hoyt etc?

  • @justinvzu01
    @justinvzu01 Рік тому +1

    I don't think the Sebastian Flute risers are still sold in Europe. They had a restart with these risers, if I'm not mistaken, but no one bought them. At least JVD Archery and SSA Archery have stopped carrying them, and they're being sold at great discounts.

    • @lupusverdi
      @lupusverdi Рік тому +1

      It's a brand conflict of recognition. SF line is owned by W&W (although they call it Super Feel now) but they can't copyright Sebastian Flute's name. Someone is eager to use SF name recognition for themselves. Most people read SF and think it's SF Archery new stuff to the detriment of Sebastian

  • @blackriflex39
    @blackriflex39 Рік тому

    do the kinetic vygo when you get a chance... i would send you mine but i cant stop shooting it lol....

  • @thehadfieldparadox
    @thehadfieldparadox 2 роки тому

    Did you not want to use your sight mounted clicker?

  • @franciscoibarra2094
    @franciscoibarra2094 Рік тому +2

    Estimado Jake, soy de México, soy un gran fan tuyo y de tus vídeos, ojalá algún día pueda ser un buen arquero, ojalá pudiera entender el inglés para saber qué es lo que instruyes... Saludos

    • @claudioolate2516
      @claudioolate2516 Рік тому

      Creo que algunos videos ya tienen subtitulos al español

  • @user-ih4fo1oe6v
    @user-ih4fo1oe6v Рік тому

    Do anyone know wherer the riser made in?

  • @rogerzettergren2779
    @rogerzettergren2779 Рік тому

    Kan yue test Nishikawa Sakura SH-25 raiser one japanese raiser i shot Nisishawa 2880 in old time

  • @divljipirat1
    @divljipirat1 Рік тому +1

    getting myself a first olympic style bow 30# at 28,5 do you have any arrow reqimendations that i should get, i wanted a easton inspires but someone told me that does arrows are not that good to shot outside...any thought

    • @lupusverdi
      @lupusverdi Рік тому

      Take a look at Black Eagle x-impact. They are much more budget than for example Easton X-10 (you really don't need those as a beginner) but group really nicely when tuned appropriately. Plus you start with "good arrows" that have the potential to accompany you on your journey for quite some time

    • @divljipirat1
      @divljipirat1 Рік тому

      Nock and point combo for those, i think i would prefer more on the slower side setup since im in a wheelchair and a fast arrow is a problem since i max out my sight and arrows still overshoot the target at 18m, by a lot

    • @divljipirat1
      @divljipirat1 Рік тому

      And im looking into getting sanlida x10 bow if my fundriser goes as expected

  • @kiktkikt2863
    @kiktkikt2863 7 місяців тому

    Can we shoot bare bow with it

  • @jacobmighty7941
    @jacobmighty7941 5 місяців тому

    Im thinking a clean 293

  • @markburban9573
    @markburban9573 2 роки тому +3

    my guess, you score 285
    but while i know it's a $180 riser.. but how much are those limbs worth?

  • @mikepedder7040
    @mikepedder7040 Рік тому

    Seems all the SF risers have issues with the sight tapping.

  • @EricAlamangoTV
    @EricAlamangoTV Рік тому +1

    Can you please review the Hoyt Arcos riser?

  • @cavetroll
    @cavetroll Рік тому

    I would happily give up a kidney or two to somehow get a South African made Gray AIX for you to review.... One day when Im all grown up 😜😁

    • @JakeKaminskiArchery
      @JakeKaminskiArchery  Рік тому +2

      I know someone who may have one. I’ll ask.

    • @cavetroll
      @cavetroll Рік тому

      @@JakeKaminskiArchery that would be beautiful mate!

  • @fredcarter7003
    @fredcarter7003 10 місяців тому

    Wns vantage ax25 riser

  • @hafezabroomandi1070
    @hafezabroomandi1070 Рік тому

    Jake could you please test WinWin AXT riser with Hoyt limbs?

  • @Fr0zen14
    @Fr0zen14 9 місяців тому

    19:07 😳

  • @claudioolate2516
    @claudioolate2516 Рік тому

    My prediction is a solid 200

  • @wanr5701
    @wanr5701 Рік тому

    I totally agree with you; lower end bows for newbies didn't feel as refined as high end bows. At the very basic level all bows can shoot straight and hit the yellow at the hands of good archers, but the feel is what separates the bow apart.

  • @lubossoltes321
    @lubossoltes321 Рік тому

    Timestamps on the video would be nice. Other than that a very thorough review even with minor details .... very nice.

  • @valentineyau1746
    @valentineyau1746 Рік тому

    290

  • @garyhiggins6718
    @garyhiggins6718 Рік тому

    If I had to predict your score, I would.make a.guesstimate at 293, but you mustn't tske my guesses too seriously, after all, I AM just a bit of English!
    👍👍👍😊😊😊🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
    What DOES that mean anyway? I have only ever seen you use it, and Cliff Clavin from Cheers?
    BTW, once you said to tell.you.if we saw any changes in your form?
    Well.the.only change I can see is that your form looks consistent, but you look more relaxed in it, if that makes any sense?

    • @JakeKaminskiArchery
      @JakeKaminskiArchery  Рік тому +2

      To put “English” on something is to curve it. It’s a billiards term for putting spin on the ball making it act differently then a straight on shot.

  • @fredcarter7003
    @fredcarter7003 10 місяців тому

    279

  • @radebig69
    @radebig69 2 роки тому

    292

  • @NPC-fl3gq
    @NPC-fl3gq 2 роки тому +1

    287
    Edit: whoah!!!!! I win!!

  • @andreask.654
    @andreask.654 Рік тому

    287, because of the too short clicker plate.

  • @InFerrumVeritas
    @InFerrumVeritas Рік тому

    283

  • @old2470
    @old2470 Рік тому

    My guess: 287

    • @old2470
      @old2470 Рік тому

      lol I was right

  • @bellshooter
    @bellshooter Рік тому

    I guess a 287

    • @bellshooter
      @bellshooter Рік тому

      That was a real estimate - no cheat. Just 50 years of experience. I have shot Hoyt, SF, Yamaha, Petron, Mybo, Bear, WinWin, etc , and the SF risers are great starter/mid bows. Just not quite Hoyt/WW level.

  • @mrpickles3479
    @mrpickles3479 Рік тому

    Limiting draw weight is a very bad idea, and obviously means the metal or components can’t handle it…

  • @mrnobody1550
    @mrnobody1550 Рік тому

    The accessories cost more than the riser itself

  • @just-a-bajan6643
    @just-a-bajan6643 2 роки тому +1

    Man you making these videos way too long.

    • @brotendo
      @brotendo 2 роки тому

      Maybe you have the attention span of a rat

    • @gregorychrist9951
      @gregorychrist9951 2 роки тому +6

      I appreciate the thoroughness, as you never know when you'll pick up something useful that you weren't expecting. And you can skip forward if you find a section uninteresting.

    • @NPC-fl3gq
      @NPC-fl3gq 2 роки тому +7

      Better to be too long than too short imo

    • @liamboyle9199
      @liamboyle9199 2 роки тому +6

      Speed it up, ask for time stamp, etc.
      Nothing wrong with a long video if it's informational and good to watch?

  • @waynestevenson9613
    @waynestevenson9613 Рік тому

    My guess? 292 - 22X…

    🫤 287! Not bad really!
    Good job - great video!

  • @lawrenceokinaka9273
    @lawrenceokinaka9273 Рік тому

    284

  • @rustypotatoes
    @rustypotatoes Рік тому +1

    287