The showing of Batman passed out in a room with people in it shows just how much he values, trusts and loves them. A fantastic addition to showing the depth they all have.
You're right but also the bat has snapped out of unconsciousness to tell paramedics not to remove his mask so he's probably sure he'd wake up if they tried anything lol
Bruce is such a bad ass in this one. Also Clark's dream is so damn terrifing, it must be so scary knowing you have the power to casually split the planet in two.
Anyone else notice that when Batman bought the coffee he put down both bills and coins? Is he so prepared he knows the prices at every coffee shop in Gotham?
My headcanon is since JL is like... year 12 for Bruce, he's got a favorite coffeeshop by now. The main reason they're not used to it is that Bruce Wayne is the regular.
@@HeavyMetalMouseat this point I’m convinced Batman has the same power as deadpool to pull weapons, tools and gadgets out of thin air, there’s no way Batman has a sixth sense to carry the specific items he requires each day Bruce: “Alfred pack my utility belt with a kryptonite boomerang and 40 stacks of watermelon gum and a keychain resembling a pink ww2 German tank”
Alternatively, Batman just pulled whatever he had on hand out and just left the change because of the current situation and the fact that he's not exactly strapped for cash.
I like Hawkgirl’s nightmare. She’s a bird person and a warrior. Her greatest fear is being trapped in a place she can’t move in and powerless to do anything about it.
It's been my long held theory that Shayera's claustrophobia stems from her being surrounded on all sides by the lies she's been forced to tell. They're walls she's been forced to build around herself to keep others out. But now, she's trapped inside them. What's more, she's alone in her fear, because for so long, she hasn't let anyone inside.
A nice explanation, but it's more likely that, as creatures that can naturally fly, this fear is shared by her entire species. Their place is in the open sky, and a tight, enclosed space is the last place they want to be.
It can be both: she's a flying being who appreciates freedom (and even had her ancestors enslaved), thus breeding a natural claustrophobia... _but also_ if she were trapped and left to die somewhere, it's possible (in her mind) that no one she knows might ever care enough to come and save her. Maybe they wouldn't come to mourn at her grave at all...
I still don't understand why they didn't bring on Bruce Timm and Paul Dini to work on the live action films. They clearly understood the characters and how to make them interesting.
@@th3contrarian So, just don't have that in the live action movies. I've always liked Barbara and Dick together anyway. Also, I'd make Dick Grayson less dark and brooding. More like the Robin from the 2003 Teen Titans show. Don't see why you can't mesh the best parts of these shows together. Just have to plan it out properly.
It wasn't just Paul Dini and Bruce Timm who made these cartoons good; particularly with "Justice League" and "JLU", a lot of the best work was from contributions by Dwayne Mcduffie and James Tucker, especially beginning with Season 2.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp yes, but that's not really my point - this was a collaborative effort by more than just 2 guys; bringing just Bruce and Paul together to work on live-action movies doesn't guarantee the same success they had with the cartoons.
I know Bruce is rich, but the fact Batman keeps cash on him as shown when he buys the coffee was always funny to me. That one of the puches in his utility belt probably has a couple hundred dollars in it while fighting aliens and robots
"Why does Stewart sleep naked while Kent sleeps in jammies?" Probably because Stewart is a US former marine while Kent is still the farm boy we know and love. Pretty sure it's still fairly popular to sleep half naked in the army and marine bunks, and any shread of decency you have is stripped away during basic training.
This. It’s shown Clark is just basically a big kid once he’s not saving people, when he’s on the farm. It makes sense for him to wear pj’s lol. Jon is, like you said, a former marine. A current soldier in the lantern army. Plus, his ring might create his outfit like Hal’s does in some iterations. It might not be intentional, but it’s still a nice touch.
my friend, you have the wrong idea of basic training. now i can't speak to any other unit than the one i went though, but we had a uniform for sleeping. i'm sure out there in the regular army there are soldiers who sleep half-naked in the communal bunks, but i never served with any. walking around half naked and less before bed, sure, but not sleeping.
You opened my eyes to how Batman and Jonn fit into the league. I never really seen them as the outsiders until now. The idea of them fighting for the friends that made them belong is really touching. The Odyssey reference was a nice touch to
This episode lives rent free in my head. I had discs of Justice League and JLU and they got scratched so only certain episodes could actually be played in full. This is by far the episode I've seen the most times.
This two parter is probably my favorite my favorite from JL & JLU. I hope someday we get Dr. Destiny in live action. Not the Sandman series because he was a little more grounded in that than he is in the comics.
Dr Destiny really be blowing up right now. In the comics, he's prominent in the current event, and in DC Legends, he's the new character introduced to the game this month, and just happened to re-watch the JL episode he's in.
Most episodes in the original Justice League are two-parters, & I love this one. It's downright bone-chilling at times. I wasn't at all expecting D's wife to die, & the implication that she spent the entire nightmare being vivisected is just horrifying. It plays into one of my favorite villain tropes, namely the nobody with a big chip on his shoulder who becomes insanely dangerous when he gets a taste of power. To that end, I have to say, I'm confused why you're talking about hospitality. The point is that the cyclops underestimated Odysseus, & Batman is warning them not to underestimate D just because he doesn't seem noteworthy to them. Batman is also "nobody" because this was before "Batman can beat everyone" was really a thing, so the twist was the least powerful member of the group has to take on the villain. The fight comes down, ultimately, to the two "nobodies" duking it out. On an unrelated note, I always liked the detail that D wasn't in a costume & just used his powers to make himself look like that in his victims' minds. I think it's also worth noting that their fears aren't JUST about their powers. Superman fears being a danger to the people he loves because he sees himself as a protector but is afraid because he "lives in a world made of cardboard," as he puts later. Flash's fear, besides just being "going too fast" & losing control of his powers, is effectively that he'll be alone forever. He doesn't hurt anyone else, he just can't interact with anyone. It's understandable why he would fear this so much since we see that he's probably the most sociable Leaguer. John is afraid of losing touch with his roots & becoming just a cog in the machine, & I think that's one of the places where the DCAU comments on him being black without making A Very Special Episode About Racism. I suspect, by this point, they already figured they were going to make Hawkgirl the traitor, so saying she can't be mindread is a way of concealing that. Likewise, you can't just blatantly foreshadow the events of the Thanagarian Invasion in her nightmare, so it makes sense to instead give her claustrophobia because a flying creature would probably fear tight spaces & loss of freedom. It could also mean she feels trapped more metaphorically, but she's a bit different from the others in that she has a genuine phobia. Flash, for instance, isn't unable to run for fear that he'll be trapped forever between seconds.
Only a Dream is my absolute favorite set of episodes in both series and this is a phenomenal essay on it and how it showcased Bruce and J'onn and their relationship with the rest of the League. Warmed my heart 💙
I honestly remember watching this when I was younger and didn't fully understand it, but knew it was terrible. How things like this could go wrong and even the most powerful heroes were no match for this
I think the not reading thing wasn't a personal thing for John; it's a commonly held belief that you can't read in dreams because that part of the brain isn't active or something. It may have been debunked since then, but it's probably the logic the episode's working on.
It can be both, frankly. Being unable to read in dreams maintains continuity with the DCAU (don’t forget, the old Batman series is still part of this universe) but it also ties into Jon’s fear of no longer being a part of people he’s supposed to protect. Of being the ring’s tool, rather than the other way around.
The stories in Justice league, were always intriguing and captivating for me. Your video essays are also key factors, in rekindling the flame for stories.
Be it batman's inate sence paranoia or fact majority of his enemies are not "Super" villains. Point is Batman does not believe in a "Nobody". Bruce lost his parents to a nobody
3:00 Sorry, nitpicky nerd here, ALL Cyclops are children of Poseidon, this guy wasn't a big reveal, almost every Cyclops in Greek mythology is a son of Poseidon.
Fun fact Batman has trained himself to compress a whole night's sleep into three hours and can function normally for three to four days without sleeping at all. Additionally, he is known to take micro naps to recharge his body. However, there are also instances where Alfred has forced him to get a minimum of eight hours of bedrest. It appears this version of Batman has not trained himself for that
I think this version did. If I remember correctly, the episode starts with him already having been awake for a few days straight. However, it has been a while so my memory could be wrong.
Interesting to see a video essay on this episode's connections to The Odyssey. My takeaway from this episode is that this episode is to show how the League can be disconnected from people. Dee was just a random goon working for Luthor when the Justice League busted them. From Dee's perspective he was just working a job for his boss when these all powerful beings came in and ruined his life. He lost everything, his job, his friends, and finally his wife, for something that he wasn't even in charge of, for all we know he could've thought it was an average job till the league showed up, arresting him but not Luthor. Dee's nightmares not only show the League Members greatest fears, but how Dee sees them as well, even possibly playing out in the order of how they effected Dee's life. John fears becoming disconnected from earth and being nothing more than an alien to people. Dee was caught as one of Luthor's men, no care was made for his pleas of not being a bad guy, he was just locked away, no-one hearing him out. Superman fears becoming too powerful, destroying everything he comes into contact with. Dee lost everything when Superman and the league showed up, his job gone (like how Superman destroys the Daily Planet in his nightmare) and his loved ones gone. And Flash fears becoming too fast and living the rest of is life in an instant. Dee in this scenario is represented by the frozen people, Flash keeps moving and living his life, while he is stuck, frozen in place, trapped in prison. And Hawkgirls is just there because. Batman is the only one safe from Dee's torture but I don't think it's solely because Batman stayed awake, Manhunter even mentions that if you fall asleep for a moment he gets you, and Batman clearly did as he saw Dee as Dr. Destiny. I think that the encounter with the League made Dee hate superheroes deeply, seeing them as self-proclaimed gods enforcing their justice while not caring for the average man. But Batman is a normal human, Dee didn't want to torture him because of this. Batman is the only one of the League that isn't disconnected from people, he's the only one that actually looked into Dee when the others thought he wouldn't be a threat. When I look back on this episode, it feels like the first example of the themes of the Cadmus storyline, and that fascinates me. This episode really interested me when I started thinking about it more than surface level. I have no idea how to end the comment, lol.
"If you can't share the same jizz rag with a stranger, then are you really friends?" Damn, that's a phrase I'm not sure I wanted to hear, especially at 5am.
Your videos are amazing, I still remember the first time I watched both Justice League and Justice League Unlimited when it was first on Netflix. Do you think you could do some videos on the 2003 TMNT series?
One thing that I love is when they show super heroes doing mundane things like Batman buying coffee or later when Superman invites Wonder Women and Batman out for milkshakes. There’s just something fun seeing that kind of stuff take place
Gotta be honest you make so many great videos like this it blows my mind. That's gotta be one of your super powers. Genuinely thank you for this stuff.
What's really interesting to me is that Just A Dream is the result of an unmade Batman TAS episode. TAS was supposed to have an episode inspired by A Christmas Carol (with a bit of Dante), with Batman as Scrooge and Dream of the Endless as his guide. So like, this episode only can exist because that one doesn't. And it makes me wish we never got the Netflix series, and instead got a DCAU adult-oriented revival starting with The Sandman.
Dr destiny should be in my adventures with superman with his dream powers. Clark wakes up to learn he is just a guy and he draws superman comics at the daily wire, Jimmy oslons dream is being super powerful like in half his silver age comics, Dr destiny with the dream stone would be the first magic thing superman fights its mostly tech
If they do that, they _have_ to follow it up with an adaption of 24 Hours. Clark knowing Dee escaped, but not knowing where he is, as the world decends into madness. Superman desperately trying to resist the effects, desperately trying to stay sane and not hurt anyone while doing his best to save everyone, unable to save the day, only try to prevent it from getting worse. And at the end, it just stops, and he collapses in exhaustion. Ending up in The Dreaming, where Morpheus explains what happened, and thanks him for not letting it be worse, while he thanks Morpheus for saving humanity, giving Morpheus pause because he never thought of it that way and doesn't even like humans, yet Clark just... feels like The Dreaming itself. A dream come true.
Was thinking exactly this. Was this the original then. The new night terrors series is the first time a villain with these powers appeared in the comics?
No, Doctor Destiny comes from an _old_ Justice League comic, back in the 1970s. This story is an adaptation of that comic. After that comic, he was not seen again until the late 1980s, where it was revealed that he was locked up in Arkham afterwards. As Arkham got worse, so did he. By the time he escaped, he looked like a rotting, shambling corpse. He escaped because his mother got possession of the Dreamstone and smuggled it in to him. He proceeded to take over a local diner, using the Dreamstone not only to drive the entire world to violent madness, but also specifically torturing the people who happened to be in the diner with him. After 24 hours of making the diner patrons torture, rape, mutilate, and kill each other, Dream of the Endless tracked him down and killed him, seizing the Dreamstone, which was Dream's to begin with and had been stolen in the early 1900s by a sorcerer who imprisoned him, before John Dee's mother stole it from him, and later John Dee took it himself.
@@PosthumanHeresy i just whached that episode of the sandman adaptation the other day! Nice to know how connected this all is. A bit of a pity the netflix show separated it out from the dc universe. Thanks! I started reading my kids the batman animated series adventure continues comics and now have started to get into reading the backstory. It goes so deep!
@@woodstock5nathan It is! There's a lot of ties to the DCU throughout The Sandman in the original comics. Martian Manhunter appears in one story, and it's revealed that the most feared god of Mars, their fire god, was Dream. Then there's Daniel, grandson of Hawkman.
That’s not how I remember the odyssey… The version I read, he said something along the lines of “That I, Odysseus, was the one who blinded you” then the cyclops prayed upon Zeus to damn him.
I have to say, most of your video is great. The only part I had an issue with was that you got it backwards: Destiny is the poor guest and he's about to get his walloping the moment Batman catches up to him. I don't know how you came to the conclusion at 4:21 because I will repeat what I just said: Destiny is their guest. He has entered their personal realm through the dream. He's making the host miserable and even going so far as to mock them. He's definitely Odysseus in the analogy (that should have been your first clue. He's in for a journey of punishment following his poor actions).
Hey, we do not know each other but I would like to tell u that despite all the bad that you have done in your life, GOD still loves you and wants you to be with him (GOD), all yoi must do is to trust in Jesus like how he would trust in parachute when jumping out of a plane and you must be willing to turn from your wrong doings and do what is right.😊😊🎉❤❤ 0:13
As the years have gone on, I've realised how much I love John Steward as green lantern in this and JLU, he's got a lot of relatable qualities, a man who upholds his duty, who struggles with love and work life, being a big dork at heart, heartbreak, being very protective of those he cares most about. Not just my favorite green lantern, but I just like his story a lot. Also I'm probably one of the few who liked his design more when he shaved his head and got a beard, but that's just my taste in men.
Love you perspectives, Leo. And as a Red-Green deficient person, I would love someday to pick a color over the phone. If you get time, please finish the Smallville synopsis. That show encapsulates my late 60's-early 70's comic experience, when new creators with new visions entered the scene. The "Thinking Man" Years.
As someone who watched this live on WB and CN, I wonder if you know the first season (and maybe the second) were only alloted 30 minutes per "episode." So each full story was TWO episodes, which changed how to had to tell each story. Like, we had to wait a week between both parts...
The showing of Batman passed out in a room with people in it shows just how much he values, trusts and loves them. A fantastic addition to showing the depth they all have.
He's like a cat.😂
You're right but also the bat has snapped out of unconsciousness to tell paramedics not to remove his mask so he's probably sure he'd wake up if they tried anything lol
@@EmeraldKnight8 So THAT is what Catwoman see in him!
Or he just finally succumbed to extreme sleep deprivation.
The fact he's in a chair and not lying on one of the beds is such a nice character beat.
Bruce is such a bad ass in this one. Also Clark's dream is so damn terrifing, it must be so scary knowing you have the power to casually split the planet in two.
It's this episode that makes his fight with Darkseid and his "taking the gloves off" hit all the harder.
They nerfed superman...he doesn't need sleep
@@Jason5818UI He still likes to do it thou.
Anyone else notice that when Batman bought the coffee he put down both bills and coins?
Is he so prepared he knows the prices at every coffee shop in Gotham?
My headcanon is since JL is like... year 12 for Bruce, he's got a favorite coffeeshop by now. The main reason they're not used to it is that Bruce Wayne is the regular.
Bat-Money-Clip in his utility belt, with bill-fold and coin dispenser. :P
It was either that or pay with the Bat-Credit-Card... >.>
@@HeavyMetalMouseat this point I’m convinced Batman has the same power as deadpool to pull weapons, tools and gadgets out of thin air, there’s no way Batman has a sixth sense to carry the specific items he requires each day
Bruce: “Alfred pack my utility belt with a kryptonite boomerang and 40 stacks of watermelon gum and a keychain resembling a pink ww2 German tank”
Alternatively, Batman just pulled whatever he had on hand out and just left the change because of the current situation and the fact that he's not exactly strapped for cash.
@@randomperson9498 -- That implies he's carrying money left over from a prior purchase. He's wearing the Batsuit.
I like Hawkgirl’s nightmare. She’s a bird person and a warrior. Her greatest fear is being trapped in a place she can’t move in and powerless to do anything about it.
Aye. The fact that she didn’t fear what she was about to do to earth was a nice touch. She really was committed to her peoples mission.
@@lordbiscuitthetossable5352no she was feeling trapped by the Thenagarian mission and her love for earth and the justice league
It's been my long held theory that Shayera's claustrophobia stems from her being surrounded on all sides by the lies she's been forced to tell. They're walls she's been forced to build around herself to keep others out. But now, she's trapped inside them. What's more, she's alone in her fear, because for so long, she hasn't let anyone inside.
Great theory and explanation. If you aren't a counselor or psychologist, you should really consider
A nice explanation, but it's more likely that, as creatures that can naturally fly, this fear is shared by her entire species. Their place is in the open sky, and a tight, enclosed space is the last place they want to be.
It can be both: she's a flying being who appreciates freedom (and even had her ancestors enslaved), thus breeding a natural claustrophobia... _but also_ if she were trapped and left to die somewhere, it's possible (in her mind) that no one she knows might ever care enough to come and save her. Maybe they wouldn't come to mourn at her grave at all...
Exactly
I still don't understand why they didn't bring on Bruce Timm and Paul Dini to work on the live action films. They clearly understood the characters and how to make them interesting.
Batgirl × Batman, anyone?
@@th3contrarian So, just don't have that in the live action movies. I've always liked Barbara and Dick together anyway. Also, I'd make Dick Grayson less dark and brooding. More like the Robin from the 2003 Teen Titans show. Don't see why you can't mesh the best parts of these shows together. Just have to plan it out properly.
It wasn't just Paul Dini and Bruce Timm who made these cartoons good; particularly with "Justice League" and "JLU", a lot of the best work was from contributions by Dwayne Mcduffie and James Tucker, especially beginning with Season 2.
@@josephadorno92 Yeah, but isn't he dead?
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp yes, but that's not really my point - this was a collaborative effort by more than just 2 guys; bringing just Bruce and Paul together to work on live-action movies doesn't guarantee the same success they had with the cartoons.
I know Bruce is rich, but the fact Batman keeps cash on him as shown when he buys the coffee was always funny to me. That one of the puches in his utility belt probably has a couple hundred dollars in it while fighting aliens and robots
Well it’s not like a banks gonna issue a credit card to Batman
maybe he has spare cash in the car.
@@SaitkenI know of at least 1 movie that would argue otherwise...
@@Saitken I mean, Bruce could just buy a bank.
And magical cash too. Remember that episode when Diana got turned into a pig?
In the case of Batman and Superman it goes beyond friendship. In the comics Superman once actually called Batman his brother
"Why does Stewart sleep naked while Kent sleeps in jammies?"
Probably because Stewart is a US former marine while Kent is still the farm boy we know and love. Pretty sure it's still fairly popular to sleep half naked in the army and marine bunks, and any shread of decency you have is stripped away during basic training.
This. It’s shown Clark is just basically a big kid once he’s not saving people, when he’s on the farm. It makes sense for him to wear pj’s lol.
Jon is, like you said, a former marine. A current soldier in the lantern army. Plus, his ring might create his outfit like Hal’s does in some iterations.
It might not be intentional, but it’s still a nice touch.
my friend, you have the wrong idea of basic training. now i can't speak to any other unit than the one i went though, but we had a uniform for sleeping. i'm sure out there in the regular army there are soldiers who sleep half-naked in the communal bunks, but i never served with any. walking around half naked and less before bed, sure, but not sleeping.
The animated DC shows were so good. I wish still got stuff like them.
Yeah I even miss the dcamu the tomorrowverse just doesn't do it for me :/
I mean Gunn has said hes taking influence from the shows in his new universe
My adventures with Superman is looking good for now.
@@louismoskowitz4069was just about to say this, literally cannot recommend the show enough right now
Nah, it's terrible @@louismoskowitz4069
“If you can’t share the same jizz rag with a stranger, are you really friends?”
are you really listening!! type line....i nearly jumped 😭
Pretentious just likes to pull out stuff like that from time to time for some reason
So glad I saw this comment before he said it. Holy shit lol
You opened my eyes to how Batman and Jonn fit into the league. I never really seen them as the outsiders until now. The idea of them fighting for the friends that made them belong is really touching. The Odyssey reference was a nice touch to
This episode lives rent free in my head. I had discs of Justice League and JLU and they got scratched so only certain episodes could actually be played in full. This is by far the episode I've seen the most times.
But we still don't know what a "cur" is!
To call someone a "cur" is an insult. It means "dog". Usually a mongrel.
This two parter is probably my favorite my favorite from JL & JLU. I hope someday we get Dr. Destiny in live action. Not the Sandman series because he was a little more grounded in that than he is in the comics.
Im sorry wtf was that personal anecdote at 4:04 and why is nobody else commenting about it
Dr Destiny really be blowing up right now. In the comics, he's prominent in the current event, and in DC Legends, he's the new character introduced to the game this month, and just happened to re-watch the JL episode he's in.
“I have one. I never give up.” This is why DCAU Batman is the best. This relentlessness
Batman's 4 pillars: intellect, prowess, resolve and integrity.
Most episodes in the original Justice League are two-parters, & I love this one. It's downright bone-chilling at times. I wasn't at all expecting D's wife to die, & the implication that she spent the entire nightmare being vivisected is just horrifying. It plays into one of my favorite villain tropes, namely the nobody with a big chip on his shoulder who becomes insanely dangerous when he gets a taste of power. To that end, I have to say, I'm confused why you're talking about hospitality. The point is that the cyclops underestimated Odysseus, & Batman is warning them not to underestimate D just because he doesn't seem noteworthy to them. Batman is also "nobody" because this was before "Batman can beat everyone" was really a thing, so the twist was the least powerful member of the group has to take on the villain. The fight comes down, ultimately, to the two "nobodies" duking it out. On an unrelated note, I always liked the detail that D wasn't in a costume & just used his powers to make himself look like that in his victims' minds.
I think it's also worth noting that their fears aren't JUST about their powers. Superman fears being a danger to the people he loves because he sees himself as a protector but is afraid because he "lives in a world made of cardboard," as he puts later. Flash's fear, besides just being "going too fast" & losing control of his powers, is effectively that he'll be alone forever. He doesn't hurt anyone else, he just can't interact with anyone. It's understandable why he would fear this so much since we see that he's probably the most sociable Leaguer. John is afraid of losing touch with his roots & becoming just a cog in the machine, & I think that's one of the places where the DCAU comments on him being black without making A Very Special Episode About Racism. I suspect, by this point, they already figured they were going to make Hawkgirl the traitor, so saying she can't be mindread is a way of concealing that. Likewise, you can't just blatantly foreshadow the events of the Thanagarian Invasion in her nightmare, so it makes sense to instead give her claustrophobia because a flying creature would probably fear tight spaces & loss of freedom. It could also mean she feels trapped more metaphorically, but she's a bit different from the others in that she has a genuine phobia. Flash, for instance, isn't unable to run for fear that he'll be trapped forever between seconds.
The fun part? This episode is very timely because Dr. Destiny is the reason for the event currently happening in DC ("Night Terrors").
Snoring Batman is one of the most adorable things I've ever seen
Only a Dream is my absolute favorite set of episodes in both series and this is a phenomenal essay on it and how it showcased Bruce and J'onn and their relationship with the rest of the League. Warmed my heart 💙
Damn now that I think of it JL and JLU really did feel like very welcoming shows
We were guests in a lore/mythology that predates most people's grandparents, inhabited by figures as vibrant and alive as they were in the golden age.
I honestly remember watching this when I was younger and didn't fully understand it, but knew it was terrible. How things like this could go wrong and even the most powerful heroes were no match for this
This is one of my favorite episodes I am so excited to see this one
I think the not reading thing wasn't a personal thing for John; it's a commonly held belief that you can't read in dreams because that part of the brain isn't active or something. It may have been debunked since then, but it's probably the logic the episode's working on.
That was how Bruce figured out he was being duped in Perchance To Dream
It can be both, frankly. Being unable to read in dreams maintains continuity with the DCAU (don’t forget, the old Batman series is still part of this universe) but it also ties into Jon’s fear of no longer being a part of people he’s supposed to protect. Of being the ring’s tool, rather than the other way around.
I've been hoping and wating for you to make a video on this great episode, definitely one of my favorites, amazing work as always
One of the best Batman moments, I got SO HYPED watching this episode. Batman was UNSTOPPABLE!!!
The stories in Justice league, were always intriguing and captivating for me. Your video essays are also key factors, in rekindling the flame for stories.
The jizz rag joke was so unhinged and I love it
This show was so epic
Just wanted to say, Ialways enjoy your videos bro.
Make it a double
Be it batman's inate sence paranoia or fact majority of his enemies are not "Super" villains. Point is Batman does not believe in a "Nobody". Bruce lost his parents to a nobody
3:00 Sorry, nitpicky nerd here, ALL Cyclops are children of Poseidon, this guy wasn't a big reveal, almost every Cyclops in Greek mythology is a son of Poseidon.
Really? No one's commented yet on how Leo and his dad talk jizz rags together?
Fun fact Batman has trained himself to compress a whole night's sleep into three hours and can function normally for three to four days without sleeping at all. Additionally, he is known to take micro naps to recharge his body. However, there are also instances where Alfred has forced him to get a minimum of eight hours of bedrest.
It appears this version of Batman has not trained himself for that
I think this version did. If I remember correctly, the episode starts with him already having been awake for a few days straight. However, it has been a while so my memory could be wrong.
Batman getting a coffee is the sole reason to enjoy this episode.
Interesting to see a video essay on this episode's connections to The Odyssey.
My takeaway from this episode is that this episode is to show how the League can be disconnected from people. Dee was just a random goon working for Luthor when the Justice League busted them. From Dee's perspective he was just working a job for his boss when these all powerful beings came in and ruined his life. He lost everything, his job, his friends, and finally his wife, for something that he wasn't even in charge of, for all we know he could've thought it was an average job till the league showed up, arresting him but not Luthor.
Dee's nightmares not only show the League Members greatest fears, but how Dee sees them as well, even possibly playing out in the order of how they effected Dee's life.
John fears becoming disconnected from earth and being nothing more than an alien to people. Dee was caught as one of Luthor's men, no care was made for his pleas of not being a bad guy, he was just locked away, no-one hearing him out.
Superman fears becoming too powerful, destroying everything he comes into contact with. Dee lost everything when Superman and the league showed up, his job gone (like how Superman destroys the Daily Planet in his nightmare) and his loved ones gone.
And Flash fears becoming too fast and living the rest of is life in an instant. Dee in this scenario is represented by the frozen people, Flash keeps moving and living his life, while he is stuck, frozen in place, trapped in prison.
And Hawkgirls is just there because.
Batman is the only one safe from Dee's torture but I don't think it's solely because Batman stayed awake, Manhunter even mentions that if you fall asleep for a moment he gets you, and Batman clearly did as he saw Dee as Dr. Destiny. I think that the encounter with the League made Dee hate superheroes deeply, seeing them as self-proclaimed gods enforcing their justice while not caring for the average man. But Batman is a normal human, Dee didn't want to torture him because of this. Batman is the only one of the League that isn't disconnected from people, he's the only one that actually looked into Dee when the others thought he wouldn't be a threat.
When I look back on this episode, it feels like the first example of the themes of the Cadmus storyline, and that fascinates me. This episode really interested me when I started thinking about it more than surface level.
I have no idea how to end the comment, lol.
MORE LIKE THIS DCAU!
Life could be a dream 🦍
2:38 had a whole lot of juice that I spit out hearing that
Can you please make a video about the DCAU Tim Drake?
DC adaptations were never the same when this show went off the air. Both live action and animation
I really liked this couple of episodes ! It felt very different to what we got before.
thank you
4:04 Truly a wise man🤢
The image of an adult Superman in full regalia , curled into a fetal position in his baby rocket, is fucking haunting.
Bros dad said what?!
Very cool.
"If you can't share the same jizz rag with a stranger, then are you really friends?" Damn, that's a phrase I'm not sure I wanted to hear, especially at 5am.
Love the vids, but dang why is the Patreon Thanks music so LOUD compared to everything else...
It’s crazy I rewatched this ep a few days ago before watching this video😂
All is a dream of Brahman,chim is the way out
Your videos are amazing, I still remember the first time I watched both Justice League and Justice League Unlimited when it was first on Netflix. Do you think you could do some videos on the 2003 TMNT series?
Love. This. Episode. What the what is a jizz rag? 🤣
One thing that I love is when they show super heroes doing mundane things like Batman buying coffee or later when Superman invites Wonder Women and Batman out for milkshakes. There’s just something fun seeing that kind of stuff take place
Gotta be honest you make so many great videos like this it blows my mind. That's gotta be one of your super powers. Genuinely thank you for this stuff.
This JL two parter is an all time classic!
Batman’s dedication to his friends is so good.
What's really interesting to me is that Just A Dream is the result of an unmade Batman TAS episode. TAS was supposed to have an episode inspired by A Christmas Carol (with a bit of Dante), with Batman as Scrooge and Dream of the Endless as his guide. So like, this episode only can exist because that one doesn't. And it makes me wish we never got the Netflix series, and instead got a DCAU adult-oriented revival starting with The Sandman.
Dr destiny should be in my adventures with superman with his dream powers. Clark wakes up to learn he is just a guy and he draws superman comics at the daily wire, Jimmy oslons dream is being super powerful like in half his silver age comics, Dr destiny with the dream stone would be the first magic thing superman fights its mostly tech
If they do that, they _have_ to follow it up with an adaption of 24 Hours. Clark knowing Dee escaped, but not knowing where he is, as the world decends into madness. Superman desperately trying to resist the effects, desperately trying to stay sane and not hurt anyone while doing his best to save everyone, unable to save the day, only try to prevent it from getting worse. And at the end, it just stops, and he collapses in exhaustion. Ending up in The Dreaming, where Morpheus explains what happened, and thanks him for not letting it be worse, while he thanks Morpheus for saving humanity, giving Morpheus pause because he never thought of it that way and doesn't even like humans, yet Clark just... feels like The Dreaming itself. A dream come true.
What about Lois dream ?
I'll never stop watching these vids man, I love your observations
Destiny underestimating Batman is ironic, since no one took him seriously either.
What's funny is the current DC event, Knight Terrors is basic in this episode, but full knightmare for the entire DC universe.
Was thinking exactly this. Was this the original then. The new night terrors series is the first time a villain with these powers appeared in the comics?
No, Doctor Destiny comes from an _old_ Justice League comic, back in the 1970s. This story is an adaptation of that comic. After that comic, he was not seen again until the late 1980s, where it was revealed that he was locked up in Arkham afterwards. As Arkham got worse, so did he. By the time he escaped, he looked like a rotting, shambling corpse. He escaped because his mother got possession of the Dreamstone and smuggled it in to him. He proceeded to take over a local diner, using the Dreamstone not only to drive the entire world to violent madness, but also specifically torturing the people who happened to be in the diner with him. After 24 hours of making the diner patrons torture, rape, mutilate, and kill each other, Dream of the Endless tracked him down and killed him, seizing the Dreamstone, which was Dream's to begin with and had been stolen in the early 1900s by a sorcerer who imprisoned him, before John Dee's mother stole it from him, and later John Dee took it himself.
@@PosthumanHeresy i just whached that episode of the sandman adaptation the other day! Nice to know how connected this all is. A bit of a pity the netflix show separated it out from the dc universe. Thanks! I started reading my kids the batman animated series adventure continues comics and now have started to get into reading the backstory. It goes so deep!
@@woodstock5nathan It is! There's a lot of ties to the DCU throughout The Sandman in the original comics. Martian Manhunter appears in one story, and it's revealed that the most feared god of Mars, their fire god, was Dream. Then there's Daniel, grandson of Hawkman.
still curious if dream will show up in knight terrors
Only a dream is a vibe daymmm
was it intentional that you made a video on dr destiny at the same time that dc is having a big dr destiny dreaming event in the comics?
That’s not how I remember the odyssey…
The version I read, he said something along the lines of “That I, Odysseus, was the one who blinded you” then the cyclops prayed upon Zeus to damn him.
Odysseus returns from his voyage alone. It is his _crew_ who pays the price.
no idea what you'd make it about but can you do a vid on the new superman show? i love that shit
I am now questioning whom my real friends are.
This episode scared the heck out me as a kid.
It still spooks me a bit 😅
Underrated villain.
Don't worry! When you run out of JL and JLU episodes to talk about Batman, you can always go to "Batman: The Brave and the Bold".
I have to say, most of your video is great. The only part I had an issue with was that you got it backwards: Destiny is the poor guest and he's about to get his walloping the moment Batman catches up to him. I don't know how you came to the conclusion at 4:21 because I will repeat what I just said: Destiny is their guest. He has entered their personal realm through the dream. He's making the host miserable and even going so far as to mock them. He's definitely Odysseus in the analogy (that should have been your first clue. He's in for a journey of punishment following his poor actions).
Hey, we do not know each other but I would like to tell u that despite all the bad that you have done in your life, GOD still loves you and wants you to be with him (GOD), all yoi must do is to trust in Jesus like how he would trust in parachute when jumping out of a plane and you must be willing to turn from your wrong doings and do what is right.😊😊🎉❤❤ 0:13
Even tho season one had a few problems here and there, I love this show so much and they make it all work it’s amazing.
Will you ever do Peacemaker video? Or Life is Strange part two?
This one's my favorite episode of the original JL. Glad to see you do a video on it.
Can we talk about how when superman gets overpowered his chin also gets bigger?
I always wondered what WW's nightmare would be?
This videos are really making me want to watch JLU again
what… what did your dad say
I know one day you will notice me. And one day you will have to make a video on Mr.Robot
0:05 Oh that's me
I never cared for this story. But Dr Destiny looked sweet.
for anyone who wants the song used: ua-cam.com/video/7v8ygtgLqRM/v-deo.html
I got here earlier than i should have
Damn i haven’t gotten to that part of the book yet batman
My favorite JL episode
no mention how when nobody looks into batman's mind it scares nobody
Where the hell was Wonder Woman during this episode?
As the years have gone on, I've realised how much I love John Steward as green lantern in this and JLU, he's got a lot of relatable qualities, a man who upholds his duty, who struggles with love and work life, being a big dork at heart, heartbreak, being very protective of those he cares most about.
Not just my favorite green lantern, but I just like his story a lot.
Also I'm probably one of the few who liked his design more when he shaved his head and got a beard, but that's just my taste in men.
Please never call someone a beta male again thank you
Season 2 is one of my favorite seasons of tv of all time!
Love you perspectives, Leo. And as a Red-Green deficient person, I would love someday to pick a color over the phone. If you get time, please finish the Smallville synopsis. That show encapsulates my late 60's-early 70's comic experience, when new creators with new visions entered the scene. The "Thinking Man" Years.
This was a really great episode
Hold up! HoOoOooOold up!! A what rag?!
Lore of only a dream. Momentum 100
As someone who watched this live on WB and CN, I wonder if you know the first season (and maybe the second) were only alloted 30 minutes per "episode." So each full story was TWO episodes, which changed how to had to tell each story.
Like, we had to wait a week between both parts...
This is one of my favorite episodes in the series, in part because of how much they examine the psyche of the leaguers