@@anmarabdulsalam6338that’s because it’s too thick to wick up the wick fast enough. Look up carbon felt, make ur wick out of that and it will work better
Flat wick lanterns were specifically designed to use combustible fuel which has a flashpoint of between 124 degrees F up to 150 degrees F (55C-65C). If you use fuel with a lower flash point you will have no wick regulation, get below 100 degrees F (flammable fuel) and you then have a working Molotov Cocktail. If you use fuel with a flash point above 150 degrees F then you will generate CO (Carbon monoxide). All veggie oils have flash points well above 300 degrees F. So your assumption of burning vegetable oils being a non toxic option is seriously flawed one. The only exception is when using small 1/4" diametre (or smaller) round wicks with oil as a liquid candle you can then use vegetable oils safely. I hope this helps. If you plan to experiment with burning vegetable oils then please get a CO alarm they are small and inexpensive if you set the alarm off don't burn that fuel any more.
@@mikebond6328 size of wick will determine quantity of fuel wicked up to burn then you need an adequate volume of available air to have a clean burn. Dead flame lanterns have less available air when compared to hot blast or cold blast designs. You can use a larger round wick (larger than 1/4" ) but they will not provide a clean burn like road beacons.
In the UK we have Premium Kerosene (Paraffin) and Kerosene the latter is used by most people countryside for there boilers . My Question to someone who obviously knows his stuff is why using Kerosene opposed to paraffin my Hurricane Lamp gives little light and blacks up. I can hear you all saying STUPID,but would like an expert opinion.
I was always taught that the CO danger from using vegetable oil in Kerosene lamps was a side effect of their high viscosity, rather than their high flash point.
I grew up with kerosene lanterns and they don’t need to smoke, turn them down before you light it then work yourself up to a nice light, never turn it to maximum so it won’t go there by itself, or start flaming up more keep it down to 3/4 of about where it would smoke that is how you control your smoke
You can use anything 100% cotton as a wick - preferably untreated. If you buy cotton or macrame yarn you can cut to size, the thicker the wick the brighter the flame, you can twist thin yarn together. Or you can use cotton balls and twist your own wicks. To get the oil to draw faster in the wick make sure the top of the wick already has oil on it also before lighting, just dip into oil or drop some onto it.
Well, I know the Romans used olive oil lamps so it would work. I don't have my lanterns handy so I can't look, but is it possible to loosen the weave of the wick? One of the reasons that it wouldn't draw the thicker olive oil is the tightness of the weave of the wick or to possibly remove a strand or two of the cotton strands to give room for the olive oil to be drawn up? You might want to look into the different grades of olive oil. I can't recall off the top of my head which is which, but salad oil and cooking oil and different brands are thicker or thinner and can vary immensely. A third idea is possibly blending with a different vegetable oil. All oils will burn, but it might take a bit of experimenting...possibly peanut? FYI: I'm cheap. So instead of Bertolli you might want to try no name oil that comes in a gallon can and lesser quality inexpensive oils may be thinner. Also don't use it outside in the cold all vegetable oils thicken or solidify in cold temps. FYI 2: Try saturating the wick in the oil prior to installing in the lantern, like soak it in oil for 10-20 minutes. Sorry if this comes off as pushy or know-it-all, I don't, just can't think of a better way to put things and my son said I sounded like I was lecturing people.
this was a while back are there any updates on oil blends? the majority take plants for granted and if one is savvy in the art of thought, then one would realise that without plants and what they provide, we don't exist. lots of love ❤️
One of the things about my Lebanese heritage is that we use olive oil for everything from cooking with to rubbing on dry skin and so forth. So what we've always done is keep a large can (1-2 gallons) of olive oil under the sink. Greek and Middle Eastern specialty grocers sell it that way. It's cheaper in large containers, and it's great to always have around. It's non-toxic and actually good for you, so there's no need to worry about children or pets ingesting it by accident. One thing about using it in a lamp is that there is some vegetable matter that will leave a little residue, but it cleans up easily. You can even clean it up with the solvent property of the oil itself. i think that using plain cotton from a t-shirt or jersey cloth which isn't as tightly woven as commerical wick material, might draw the oil with a little more volume.
Thanks. I see a lot of Lebanese people where I'm at. I'm wondering........ how would you use a shirt? Wouldn't it burn-up quickly? I'm brand new to these lamps but am looking forward to trying them. I also prefer non-toxic oils/products.
Awesome video. A 100% cotton wick will give a brighter burn Vs nylon blended wicks. I fully agree on the multi use of olive oil. I keep a 18oz bottle in my bug out bag with 2 compact mini lamps the size of a salt shakers.
Replace your wicks with carbon felt. Those last forever and do not burn/get used up like the cotton ones do. Get a sheet and cut to fit. If you sew in some thin copper wire (stranded speaker wire or copper crafting wire) into any wick, it will warm any oil and make it burn better. Try cutting the olive oil wick into a spear head shape. You get more surface area and more light.
Move the bindings on your snowshoes farther back. The should tie on where the hole for your foot is so that your toe points through the hole. That way the snowshoe will trail behind on the surface of the snow and you don't have to take those big giant steps.
Carbon felt is called the forever wick and can be cut to fit your lantern. Use a few drops of different accelerate to ignite the carbon wick eg kerosene.
It is called a kerosene lantern for a reason. I found that kerosene works best. I love the light they make and the heat if it is cold, but they do tend to smell, but I have found that enough candles and or lanterns will keep you warm in very cold times if the power goes out
I have over 130 kerosene lanterns, lamps, Aladdin mantle lamps, Rayo table lamps, and some rare kerosene lanterns. I have been collecting for over 10 years and experimented with many different replacement fuels other than Kerosene, mainly to reduce indoor smell. I will only put olive oil on my salad. Kerosene is much cheaper, was designed for these devices, and it stores for a very long time. I have a few lanterns running on low sulfur diesel fuel with no troubles at all. I ran a Deitz 100 lantern on diesel fuel for about 50 hours straight with very few wick adjustments. It would have run much longer but I couldn't baby sit it and refuse to leave anything burning that is unattended. I discovered that many lantern fuels that get mixed together plug up a wick's capillary action and the flame will go out in 10 minutes. I had some fuel combo turn to gel once. What a surprise. Olive oil plugs up a wick readily and will not burn without constant screwing around with the wick. I don't understand why anybody wants to run expensive olive oil. It works in string lamps in a glass bowl but the flame is about as big as a wooden match flame. You are right in your assessment.
olive oil works as bug repellent as well, just apply on skin and and rub in like you would with a cream and the mosquitoes stay clear, it kills the bugs in standing water as well if you put in 1 or 2 drops, all the larva die as the oil changes the surface tension of the water so they drown i think. it works anyway, Shalom
I've done the olive oil in a orange peel once for heating the tent while winter camping... It's great for alot of uses as well... Great to see you posting more offten...
For the peace of mind, I would surely go with the Oil, even if it chews through a wick, They're cheap enough to get. Great Side By Side, Dave ! Hoping You & Yours Have a Swell & Happy Labor Day weekend ! ATB T God Bless
This is a very useful video. I just bought two little glass oil lamps and I was wondering if I could use olive oil in them too. Surely it would be okay?
I have been using olive oil in the same exact rig you have and what I’ve been doing to get more oil to wick up and give more light is to remove four threads from the row behind the outer most layer and if possible and it takes some patience and a wick that isn’t too long get the center most thread ( just one , not the whole bundle ) and the extra space puts speed on the wicking process but the brighter light and increased fuel will burn your wick even faster than before but wicks are cheap and the other choices paraffin and kerosene are straight up poison and will give someone or something in your home cancer eventually. Remember dogs and cats and other domestic animals are low to the ground and breathe in all the fumes that hug the ground we wouldn’t even realize existed and usually don’t and them little lungs are being damaged by something that is our fault and easily fixed. Godspeed and let’s all prey we will never need these olive oil lamps for anything but for fun and recreation.
Kerosene burn fast is good for reading for see better in the dark., Olive oil burn slow is good for heating a room size . Myself experience living in a cold small room. Thanks for sharing 🙏
As you mentioned, the wick is struggling to draw up the olive oil, so you could perhaps try using 100% carbon felt as a wick instead: ua-cam.com/video/JGVZVCU8FGE/v-deo.html Another great thing about this wick is it never needs to be replaced.
I would be concerned using olive oil on your guns, unlike mineral based oils Olive oil is vegetable based and as the temperature falls the oil becomes thicker and thicker and down in the 0 region it can go almost to a buttery texture. Mineral oils dont suffer from this problem and I do wonder with the build up of olive oil on delicate parts of your gun would it not cause it to stick or jam if the oil became more of a sludge than a fine gun oil? I live in spain where most of the world's olive oil is made and you can see it clearly in the bottles in winter in the bars and restaurants where the oil takes on a opaque colour as the temperature falls. Now from being over this side of the pond and not readily having access to hand guns I dont know how fine the parts are but i do know I would not put it on my shotgun because of that reason. It may not be a problem but gun oil is made for guns and olive oil is made for human consumption?? Good to see the comparison, Olive oil for centuries has been used in lamps but normally the ones where there is a thin string wick and gives just the same light as a candle normally. The problem with mineral oil its fumes are very toxic and it means carry two fuels but if I was backpacking &hiking I wouldnt take that sort of light anyway due to its fragility of the glass.
100% agree with the olive oil thing is far as you seen on gun parts it's organic and it will turn Rancid. I can see using it in a pinch but it would never be my go-to preservative on a firearm. Ballistol is cheap enough. you can use that on stocks, gun parts and leather.
Someone in the Orthodox Church said if you soak the wick in Salt water beforehand and let it dry out, it will burn brighter. I have a new Hurricane lantern and tried Olive oil and it burned up the flat cotton wick real fast - like minutes not hours. Maybe the ancients used a slower burning material?
salt works in conditioning the smaller wicks like when candle making works well on olive oil lamps, I made my first olive oil lamp some 15 years ago. 1/2 an inch olive oil single wick in a three-inch bases jar will last around 20 hours using a round none nylon wick, never use nylon wicks they give of cyanide. use the right stuff you get to tell your tales into your old age "smiles take care everyone".
Watching this, my theory is that with this style of lamp, the wick may be too long, and the oil has too far to travel. I've just started making simple olive oil lamps, using a coil of wire to hold a short wick that burns directly over the surface of the oil. I suspect that the proximity of the flame makes the oil a lot hotter, which helps it rise up the wick faster, and because it doesn't have so far to go, the flow is much better. The wick has lasted for hours so far without needing to be pulled up at all. The size of the flame is similar to that of a candle. Traditional olive oil lamps seem to have worked the same way, with a wick resting on the side of a pool of oil, very close to the surface.
If you use carbon felt to act as the wick, it does not burn so that may solve that issue of over burning the cotton based wick. give it a try. i got mine on amazon.
The pharmaceutical grade paraffin can be taken orally, it's taste-less and doesn't smell, it's Great for relieving constipation and wind. I've been taking a teaspoon everyday for several days now and it's been working it's magic, not sure if I'd cook with it though. Lamp oil is more refined than kerosene and some orally take that. Kerosene is for heaters and lamp oil for lamps. Some sell kerosene as lamp oil so a Good sourse is needed to insure you get Good stuff that burns well in lamps. Lamp and pharmaceutical grade paraffin/kerosene is more refined than kerosene for heaters. Not all kerosene is equal which some assume is. Try a 50/50 mix of lamp oil and veg oil, that should work out cheaper than pure lamp oil, not dry on the wick and be brighter than plain veg oil.
The little flatwicks in the lanterns don't allow the oil to suck up through as fast,, That's why those mason jars they call bright Betty's work brighter because they have a rope type of wick and they're not pinched down that's tight olive oil also is hard to get to WIC in a given height That's why I was impressed with the floating wick that I saw on another UA-cam
I heard people are using carbon filter material as wicks for olive oil and vegetable oil lamps. It does not burn so the wick should last a very long time.
Oh thank-you for this video. I never knew you could use olive oil in hurricane lamps! I’m going to try all-purpose cooking olive oil, (rather than virgin as it’s cheaper and I’d probably cry using Extra virgin for burning and not eating!); once the paraffin’s run out of my hurricane lamps. The lack of smoke, soot and mess with having to set up a paraffin lamp outside persuades me to give it a go! Any advice before putting olive oil in what ‘should’ be empty and opened and evaporated oil lamps receptacles? Also any update on your choice of wick? Did you try another slower burning type or stick with the one you have? Thanks again for the video. So much to learn and take in when becoming less reliant on the state for services!
Did you find the wick that lasts longer with olive oil, I just bought a baby special 276 and I used the regular wick but it entirely burns in just 3-4 minutes. Any suggestion would be helpful
I would think if the toothed rollers were adjusted with a wider gap the oil might wic up better. I think they are fairly tight so as to be "tuned" for thinner products like kerosene.
the olive oil wick is too densely woven to adequately capilerate the fuel to the desired combustion point quickly enough ergo following the fuel back for the flame size it consumes the alternate fuel (the wick) ~ a looser wick, more absorbent but the mechanism may not feed it properly or perhaps cut (thin) the olive oil with an additive / agent ~ or both ~ what thins oil ?? In dire straits, it'd be enough light for my purposes ~ here's hoping you never need to resort to either ~ cheers!
Very interesting video.Had not thought of using Olive Oil for lamps. I have always felt good about Kero because it replaced whale oil. Wonder what sort of critters garlic infused Olive Oil would attract when outdoors. BTW I only clean my guns when the voices in my head tell me too. Subscribed and look forward to more. Thanks and Cheers from Down Under.
Make a carbon felt wick. They never burn up! That way you don't have to worry about burning through your regular wicks. Plus they wick up the liquid faster than a regular wick.
I just bought a baby special 276 and used the regular wick, but it burns in 3-4 minutes. if I use olive oil with a carbon felt wick, will it lasts longer and how can I make a wick from a carbon felt sheet. Any suggestion would be helpful.
@@chilledcassette @chilledcassette They call them "forever wicks" for a reason, they simply don't burn up. They will glow red, but won't burn. I've been running them in my hurricane lanterns for 7 years now. On the same carbon felt wick! It's still the same size as it was when I cut it from the 12" x 12" sheet that I bought years ago. IMHO, I think that ALL lanterns and lamps should have this type of wick in them. One less thing to worry about. This is my second attempt at replying. The first one was removed I think because to told you where to find them. So hopefully this one makes it without being removed.
I recently bought one also tight olive oil same problem thought every minute or two I have to turn it up definitely does not stay wet I was wondering also the same thing I'm using the white Wick with red stripe seems kind of compact or dents I noticed some of the other old lanterns here's a different kind didn't look more like a shoelace but yet 7/8 or an inch wide I'm going to try one anybody else have any suggestions how about them for sh TF
You're not really supposed to burn through lamp wicks. just sayin. they should last a very long time if used properly. The wick should not ever be burning. if it ever burns, that is an error and damage. repair and avoid that and you can have a wick for years. only use lamp oil if u can.
So my comment isn't going to be about the dangers of using fuel lamps or heaters. either by causing a fire or by asphyxiation and or poisoning by breathing noxious fumes, no it won't be. Further let me be quite sure to explain that my opinions are not based on by what I have read or been told (I do read/study a lot though), but rather from direct experience and experimentation, over years. I have quite a large collection of lamps, stoves, heaters, you name it. I have also used them all extensively and tested various conditions for carbon monoxide. I won't say there is no danger in carbon monoxide poisoning but the chances of it are small if someone has any sort of sense in using these products. One should know about the dangers certainly, but going on about them is about as useful as telling people to watch out for drunk drivers, red lights etc every time they get in their cars. I understand that the sight of an open flame may throw some people into fear paralysis just thinking of all the possible associated dangers, but let me say that humanity used flame associated tools, both for heating and lighting for far longer than they have used electricity and still managed to thrive. Just thought I'd throw those comments in as a breath of fresh air to the usual opposite dribble coming from people that would seriously consider the dangers of simply striking a match and probably never have. So onto my opinion of using olive oil for things such as corrosion inhibition, lubrication and as a wood treatment. Yes, I would use it for that if I was stuck somewhere and I had nothing else, but only then. Olive oil is not good for any of those purposes and has never been proclaimed as such in the past, at least not by people that know its properties. Having an oil that does all may sound like a good idea but in practice there is no such thing. If you are on here reading this then you have access to the proper products, use them instead. I won't go into all the details why it is not good for any of those tasks but one of the major reasons is that olive oil is organic and it will go rancid. It will attract bacteria and makes a great medium for mold to grow in. Bacteria will increase corrosion in steel and decompose wood. Mold will heavily stain wood. Use something suitable for those tasks instead.
Talking about lamp oil thats something almost in the pass im 76 we cant find it almost no where so we have considered making some with the cooking oil; thank u for such a good video??
I know it's a year later, however, I'm sending video of a woman who made a firebox with olive oil. She used a cotton mop to make the wicks. They burn very brightly and for 8 hours! Again I know it's a firebox, but maybe the wicks made a difference. Hope you're still interested. :-) It wouldn't let me download or copy it, so here's the episode and channel: DIY Dollar Tree Decor Elegant Portable Indoor Fire-pit - Diy Table Top fire bowl - Fireplace - Easy (on the 'creative living lifestyle' channel). Hope it helps.
The light isn't even close. When the whole goal of this tool is L I G H T , the decision (including consideration of all the bad) is clear. In my humble opinion.
Seems pointless to use a fuel such as olive oil, as it is three times as expensive and produces very little light, as kerosene was ment to be used in these lamps. Use the correct fuel, be careful and you will have a useful source of light.
Wick lanterns use incomplete combustion(yellow flame) to produce light. Incomplete combustion produces a lot of deadly carbon monoxide. Heaters and stoves use complete combustion(blue flame) to product less light and more heat. If your heater or stove flame changes from blue to yellow, the flow of oxygen to the flame is restricted. If you are burning anything, it would be a good idea to get a Carbon Monoxide alarm. If you are burning gas, get a gas leak detector. It is not a good idea to burn something while you are sleeping. Some people fall asleep while some thing is burning. It would be a good idea to get a smoke alarm.
another video said that because the olive oil is thicker you need to have the flame closer to the oil because it doesn't rise as quickly. hope this helps. ua-cam.com/video/6JBq5rEk3ww/v-deo.html
We Indians use vegetable oil lamps since eternity.
They are simple to make, cheap and long lasting with smooth flame.
Please - I would love to see you make a video how you make and use a vegetable oil lamp. A practical design & use is what I'm looking for.
Which type of vegetable oil burns best?
Oh do tell!
I have a question: when I use olive oil, the fire goes out
@@anmarabdulsalam6338that’s because it’s too thick to wick up the wick fast enough. Look up carbon felt, make ur wick out of that and it will work better
Flat wick lanterns were specifically designed to use combustible fuel which has a flashpoint of between 124 degrees F up to 150 degrees F (55C-65C). If you use fuel with a lower flash point you will have no wick regulation, get below 100 degrees F (flammable fuel) and you then have a working Molotov Cocktail. If you use fuel with a flash point above 150 degrees F then you will generate CO (Carbon monoxide). All veggie oils have flash points well above 300 degrees F. So your assumption of burning vegetable oils being a non toxic option is seriously flawed one. The only exception is when using small 1/4" diametre (or smaller) round wicks with oil as a liquid candle you can then use vegetable oils safely. I hope this helps. If you plan to experiment with burning vegetable oils then please get a CO alarm they are small and inexpensive if you set the alarm off don't burn that fuel any more.
One can sew in some copper wire to heat the oil a bit.
Warmer oil burns more cleanly.
Why does a round wick burn more safely than a flat wick?
@@mikebond6328 size of wick will determine quantity of fuel wicked up to burn then you need an adequate volume of available air to have a clean burn. Dead flame lanterns have less available air when compared to hot blast or cold blast designs. You can use a larger round wick (larger than 1/4" ) but they will not provide a clean burn like road beacons.
In the UK we have Premium Kerosene (Paraffin) and Kerosene the latter is used by most people countryside for there boilers . My Question to someone who obviously knows his stuff is why using Kerosene opposed to paraffin my Hurricane Lamp gives little light and blacks up. I can hear you all saying STUPID,but would like an expert opinion.
I was always taught that the CO danger from using vegetable oil in Kerosene lamps was a side effect of their high viscosity, rather than their high flash point.
I grew up with kerosene lanterns and they don’t need to smoke, turn them down before you light it then work yourself up to a nice light, never turn it to maximum so it won’t go there by itself, or start flaming up more keep it down to 3/4 of about where it would smoke that is how you control your smoke
good advice, thanks for commenting!
In lanterns I always cut my WIC off exactly square across too
You can use anything 100% cotton as a wick - preferably untreated. If you buy cotton or macrame yarn you can cut to size, the thicker the wick the brighter the flame, you can twist thin yarn together. Or you can use cotton balls and twist your own wicks. To get the oil to draw faster in the wick make sure the top of the wick already has oil on it also before lighting, just dip into oil or drop some onto it.
I got some cotton growing so when it matures I might try that
Well, I know the Romans used olive oil lamps so it would work.
I don't have my lanterns handy so I can't look, but is it possible to loosen the weave of the wick? One of the reasons that it wouldn't draw the thicker olive oil is the tightness of the weave of the wick or to possibly remove a strand or two of the cotton strands to give room for the olive oil to be drawn up?
You might want to look into the different grades of olive oil. I can't recall off the top of my head which is which, but salad oil and cooking oil and different brands are thicker or thinner and can vary immensely.
A third idea is possibly blending with a different vegetable oil. All oils will burn, but it might take a bit of experimenting...possibly peanut?
FYI: I'm cheap. So instead of Bertolli you might want to try no name oil that comes in a gallon can and lesser quality inexpensive oils may be thinner. Also don't use it outside in the cold all vegetable oils thicken or solidify in cold temps.
FYI 2: Try saturating the wick in the oil prior to installing in the lantern, like soak it in oil for 10-20 minutes.
Sorry if this comes off as pushy or know-it-all, I don't, just can't think of a better way to put things and my son said I sounded like I was lecturing people.
All great ideas and things to try. If any of them work I'll be sure to update. I appreciate you commenting!
The reason corfu has so many olive trees is because the venetians dictated the growing for the use of olive oil for their street lamps
love the comments here, thank you
this was a while back are there any updates on oil blends? the majority take plants for granted and if one is savvy in the art of thought, then one would realise that without plants and what they provide, we don't exist. lots of love ❤️
One of the things about my Lebanese heritage is that we use olive oil for everything from cooking with to rubbing on dry skin and so forth. So what we've always done is keep a large can (1-2 gallons) of olive oil under the sink. Greek and Middle Eastern specialty grocers sell it that way. It's cheaper in large containers, and it's great to always have around. It's non-toxic and actually good for you, so there's no need to worry about children or pets ingesting it by accident.
One thing about using it in a lamp is that there is some vegetable matter that will leave a little residue, but it cleans up easily. You can even clean it up with the solvent property of the oil itself.
i think that using plain cotton from a t-shirt or jersey cloth which isn't as tightly woven as commerical wick material, might draw the oil with a little more volume.
Thank you for sharing this information!
Thanks. I see a lot of Lebanese people where I'm at. I'm wondering........ how would you use a shirt? Wouldn't it burn-up quickly? I'm brand new to these lamps but am looking forward to trying them. I also prefer non-toxic oils/products.
Awesome video. A 100% cotton wick will give a brighter burn Vs nylon blended wicks. I fully agree on the multi use of olive oil. I keep a 18oz bottle in my bug out bag with 2 compact mini lamps the size of a salt shakers.
thanks for commenting and supporting me!
Replace your wicks with carbon felt. Those last forever and do not burn/get used up like the cotton ones do. Get a sheet and cut to fit.
If you sew in some thin copper wire (stranded speaker wire or copper crafting wire) into any wick, it will warm any oil and make it burn better.
Try cutting the olive oil wick into a spear head shape. You get more surface area and more light.
Great advice I'll definitely give it a go. Cheers mate
Good tips crazy squirrel!
@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN copper wire is the key to warming thicker oils, especially when cold outside.
Some just use strands out of speaker wire.
@@crazysquirrel9425 It makes sense, thank you!
How does a carbon felt wick compare to fiberglass wick?
Move the bindings on your snowshoes farther back. The should tie on where the hole for your foot is so that your toe points through the hole. That way the snowshoe will trail behind on the surface of the snow and you don't have to take those big giant steps.
Carbon felt is called the forever wick and can be cut to fit your lantern. Use a few drops of different accelerate to ignite the carbon wick eg kerosene.
It is called a kerosene lantern for a reason. I found that kerosene works best. I love the light they make and the heat if it is cold, but they do tend to smell, but I have found that enough candles and or lanterns will keep you warm in very cold times if the power goes out
I have over 130 kerosene lanterns, lamps, Aladdin mantle lamps, Rayo table lamps, and some rare kerosene lanterns. I have been collecting for over 10 years and experimented with many different replacement fuels other than Kerosene, mainly to reduce indoor smell.
I will only put olive oil on my salad. Kerosene is much cheaper, was designed for these devices, and it stores for a very long time. I have a few lanterns running on low sulfur diesel fuel with no troubles at all. I ran a Deitz 100 lantern on diesel fuel for about 50 hours straight with very few wick adjustments. It would have run much longer but I couldn't baby sit it and refuse to leave anything burning that is unattended.
I discovered that many lantern fuels that get mixed together plug up a wick's capillary action and the flame will go out in 10 minutes. I had some fuel combo turn to gel once. What a surprise. Olive oil plugs up a wick readily and will not burn without constant screwing around with the wick. I don't understand why anybody wants to run expensive olive oil. It works in string lamps in a glass bowl but the flame is about as big as a wooden match flame. You are right in your assessment.
olive oil works as bug repellent as well, just apply on skin and and rub in like you would with a cream and the mosquitoes stay clear, it kills the bugs in standing water as well if you put in 1 or 2 drops, all the larva die as the oil changes the surface tension of the water so they drown i think. it works anyway, Shalom
This is great info thanks Benjamin! I was reading Exodus 27:20-21, I did not know it could be used for the other things you mentioned. Thanks.
Right on thx
I do 3 quater vegetables and 1 quater mix with alcohol and is great and not frozen in winter.
I've done the olive oil in a orange peel once for heating the tent while winter camping... It's great for alot of uses as well... Great to see you posting more offten...
Thanks brother, I hope to be doing more.
Be careful burning inside an enclosed space because you can get deadly carbon monoxide poisoning.
I've always live watching you outdoor skills and knowledge. Real deal awesome!
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
For the peace of mind, I would surely go with the Oil, even if it chews through a wick, They're cheap enough to get. Great Side By Side, Dave ! Hoping You & Yours Have a Swell & Happy Labor Day weekend ! ATB T God Bless
Thanks brother! I think I'm sticking with the oil too!
This is a very useful video. I just bought two little glass oil lamps and I was wondering if I could use olive oil in them too. Surely it would be okay?
Very useful and your commenters are also highly informative
Try thinning the olive oil with MCT and/or a small amount of ethanol. You might also try Kevlar wick instead of cotton.
I use vegetable oil it’s cheaper and thinner
i didnt know you could use oilve oil thank for sharing this.
I have been using olive oil in the same exact rig you have and what I’ve been doing to get more oil to wick up and give more light is to remove four threads from the row behind the outer most layer and if possible and it takes some patience and a wick that isn’t too long get the center most thread ( just one , not the whole bundle ) and the extra space puts speed on the wicking process but the brighter light and increased fuel will burn your wick even faster than before but wicks are cheap and the other choices paraffin and kerosene are straight up poison and will give someone or something in your home cancer eventually. Remember dogs and cats and other domestic animals are low to the ground and breathe in all the fumes that hug the ground we wouldn’t even realize existed and usually don’t and them little lungs are being damaged by something that is our fault and easily fixed. Godspeed and let’s all prey we will never need these olive oil lamps for anything but for fun and recreation.
Fiberglass wicks are not consumed but I don't think they make flat ones like lanterns use.
Kerosene burn fast is good for reading for see better in the dark., Olive oil burn slow is good for heating a room size . Myself experience living in a cold small room. Thanks for sharing 🙏
As you mentioned, the wick is struggling to draw up the olive oil, so you could perhaps try using 100% carbon felt as a wick instead: ua-cam.com/video/JGVZVCU8FGE/v-deo.html
Another great thing about this wick is it never needs to be replaced.
I would be concerned using olive oil on your guns, unlike mineral based oils Olive oil is vegetable based and as the temperature falls the oil becomes thicker and thicker and down in the 0 region it can go almost to a buttery texture. Mineral oils dont suffer from this problem and I do wonder with the build up of olive oil on delicate parts of your gun would it not cause it to stick or jam if the oil became more of a sludge than a fine gun oil?
I live in spain where most of the world's olive oil is made and you can see it clearly in the bottles in winter in the bars and restaurants where the oil takes on a opaque colour as the temperature falls.
Now from being over this side of the pond and not readily having access to hand guns I dont know how fine the parts are but i do know I would not put it on my shotgun because of that reason. It may not be a problem but gun oil is made for guns and olive oil is made for human consumption?? Good to see the comparison, Olive oil for centuries has been used in lamps but normally the ones where there is a thin string wick and gives just the same light as a candle normally.
The problem with mineral oil its fumes are very toxic and it means carry two fuels but if I was backpacking &hiking I wouldnt take that sort of light anyway due to its fragility of the glass.
100% agree with the olive oil thing is far as you seen on gun parts it's organic and it will turn Rancid. I can see using it in a pinch but it would never be my go-to preservative on a firearm. Ballistol is cheap enough. you can use that on stocks, gun parts and leather.
Someone in the Orthodox Church said if you soak the wick in Salt water beforehand and let it dry out, it will burn brighter. I have a new Hurricane lantern and tried Olive oil and it burned up the flat cotton wick real fast - like minutes not hours. Maybe the ancients used a slower burning material?
salt works in conditioning the smaller wicks like when candle making works well on olive oil lamps, I made my first olive oil lamp some 15 years ago. 1/2 an inch olive oil single wick in a three-inch bases jar will last around 20 hours using a round none nylon wick, never use nylon wicks they give of cyanide. use the right stuff you get to tell your tales into your old age "smiles take care everyone".
Watching this, my theory is that with this style of lamp, the wick may be too long, and the oil has too far to travel. I've just started making simple olive oil lamps, using a coil of wire to hold a short wick that burns directly over the surface of the oil. I suspect that the proximity of the flame makes the oil a lot hotter, which helps it rise up the wick faster, and because it doesn't have so far to go, the flow is much better. The wick has lasted for hours so far without needing to be pulled up at all. The size of the flame is similar to that of a candle. Traditional olive oil lamps seem to have worked the same way, with a wick resting on the side of a pool of oil, very close to the surface.
Excellent, thanks. I am now wondering about a 50/50 with Kerosene to recycle oil
If you use carbon felt to act as the wick, it does not burn so that may solve that issue of over burning the cotton based wick. give it a try. i got mine on amazon.
The pharmaceutical grade paraffin can be taken orally, it's taste-less and doesn't smell, it's Great for relieving constipation and wind. I've been taking a teaspoon everyday for several days now and it's been working it's magic, not sure if I'd cook with it though. Lamp oil is more refined than kerosene and some orally take that. Kerosene is for heaters and lamp oil for lamps. Some sell kerosene as lamp oil so a Good sourse is needed to insure you get Good stuff that burns well in lamps. Lamp and pharmaceutical grade paraffin/kerosene is more refined than kerosene for heaters. Not all kerosene is equal which some assume is.
Try a 50/50 mix of lamp oil and veg oil, that should work out cheaper than pure lamp oil, not dry on the wick and be brighter than plain veg oil.
a heavy oil needs the wick to lay at a gentle slope,leave a half to 3 quarter inch of wick out of the oil and it will work great
How long does each lamp last for the same amount of fuel?
The little flatwicks in the lanterns don't allow the oil to suck up through as fast,, That's why those mason jars they call bright Betty's work brighter because they have a rope type of wick and they're not pinched down that's tight olive oil also is hard to get to WIC in a given height That's why I was impressed with the floating wick that I saw on another UA-cam
Have you tried carbon felt ?
I know it works with brass wick holder
Cheers , thank you for sharing o
I saw a video where the guy used a cut up old t shirt as the wick with olive oil. Maybe try that.
I heard people are using carbon filter material as wicks for olive oil and vegetable oil lamps. It does not burn so the wick should last a very long time.
Ill have to look into that, thanks for commenting and sharing!
@@WELSBYROOTS Its not my idea youtube forever wick :)
I bet a wick material could be made that would work better with olive oil,pretty sure kerosene is way cheaper so noone has bothered to sort that out.
your probably right, if you come across one or make one, let us know! thanks for commenting!
Oh thank-you for this video. I never knew you could use olive oil in hurricane lamps! I’m going to try all-purpose cooking olive oil, (rather than virgin as it’s cheaper and I’d probably cry using Extra virgin for burning and not eating!); once the paraffin’s run out of my hurricane lamps. The lack of smoke, soot and mess with having to set up a paraffin lamp outside persuades me to give it a go!
Any advice before putting olive oil in what ‘should’ be empty and opened and evaporated oil lamps receptacles?
Also any update on your choice of wick? Did you try another slower burning type or stick with the one you have?
Thanks again for the video. So much to learn and take in when becoming less reliant on the state for services!
Did you find the wick that lasts longer with olive oil, I just bought a baby special 276 and I used the regular wick but it entirely burns in just 3-4 minutes. Any suggestion would be helpful
Makes a little bit of kerosene in your olive oil thin it out just a little bit
I would think if the toothed rollers were adjusted with a wider gap the oil might wic up better. I think they are fairly tight so as to be "tuned" for thinner products like kerosene.
What are the lantern brands? Some are better than others.
The difference between them is night and day. If these where battery powered torches I'd swear the one on the right was using Duracell batteries 😂 👍
the olive oil wick is too densely woven to adequately capilerate the fuel to the desired combustion point quickly enough ergo following the fuel back for the flame size it consumes the alternate fuel (the wick) ~ a looser wick, more absorbent but the mechanism may not feed it properly or perhaps cut (thin) the olive oil with an additive / agent ~ or both ~ what thins oil ??
In dire straits, it'd be enough light for my purposes ~ here's hoping you never need to resort to either ~ cheers!
I really like this guy.
Hey, where are you by the way? Just livin’ the life out there.. love it!
I live in Ontario Canada, thanks for commenting!
@@WELSBYROOTS I was wondering where guys like you exist.. away from California.
Very interesting video.Had not thought of using Olive Oil for lamps. I have always felt good about Kero because it replaced whale oil. Wonder what sort of critters garlic infused Olive Oil would attract when outdoors. BTW I only clean my guns when the voices in my head tell me too. Subscribed and look forward to more. Thanks and Cheers from Down Under.
The garlic may actually repel some insects and critters. I'm going to look into that.
Make a carbon felt wick. They never burn up! That way you don't have to worry about burning through your regular wicks. Plus they wick up the liquid faster than a regular wick.
I just bought a baby special 276 and used the regular wick, but it burns in 3-4 minutes. if I use olive oil with a carbon felt wick, will it lasts longer and how can I make a wick from a carbon felt sheet. Any suggestion would be helpful.
@@chilledcassette @chilledcassette They call them "forever wicks" for a reason, they simply don't burn up. They will glow red, but won't burn. I've been running them in my hurricane lanterns for 7 years now. On the same carbon felt wick! It's still the same size as it was when I cut it from the 12" x 12" sheet that I bought years ago. IMHO, I think that ALL lanterns and lamps should have this type of wick in them. One less thing to worry about. This is my second attempt at replying. The first one was removed I think because to told you where to find them. So hopefully this one makes it without being removed.
@@saasione Thank you so much for the reply. I am gonna buy it
@@chilledcassette Let me know how it works out for you. I absolutely love it!! 😊
@@saasione hey, I wanted to let you know that the lantern wick you suggested is working great! Thanks so much for your suggestion.
I recently bought one also tight olive oil same problem thought every minute or two I have to turn it up definitely does not stay wet I was wondering also the same thing I'm using the white Wick with red stripe seems kind of compact or dents I noticed some of the other old lanterns here's a different kind didn't look more like a shoelace but yet 7/8 or an inch wide I'm going to try one anybody else have any suggestions how about them for sh TF
We did not have good luch lighting with olive oil, but we have been using kerosene to cook pancakes, and no more sticking!
Great video, any updates? did you try other wicks or oils?
Thanks for the comparison!
A good cotton wick would work like a string from a cotton mop we have saw that on other videos but havent try yet
Thanks for the video from Australia.
You're not really supposed to burn through lamp wicks. just sayin. they should last a very long time if used properly. The wick should not ever be burning. if it ever burns, that is an error and damage. repair and avoid that and you can have a wick for years. only use lamp oil if u can.
So my comment isn't going to be about the dangers of using fuel lamps or heaters. either by causing a fire or by asphyxiation and or poisoning by breathing noxious fumes, no it won't be. Further let me be quite sure to explain that my opinions are not based on by what I have read or been told (I do read/study a lot though), but rather from direct experience and experimentation, over years.
I have quite a large collection of lamps, stoves, heaters, you name it. I have also used them all extensively and tested various conditions for carbon monoxide. I won't say there is no danger in carbon monoxide poisoning but the chances of it are small if someone has any sort of sense in using these products. One should know about the dangers certainly, but going on about them is about as useful as telling people to watch out for drunk drivers, red lights etc every time they get in their cars. I understand that the sight of an open flame may throw some people into fear paralysis just thinking of all the possible associated dangers, but let me say that humanity used flame associated tools, both for heating and lighting for far longer than they have used electricity and still managed to thrive. Just thought I'd throw those comments in as a breath of fresh air to the usual opposite dribble coming from people that would seriously consider the dangers of simply striking a match and probably never have.
So onto my opinion of using olive oil for things such as corrosion inhibition, lubrication and as a wood treatment. Yes, I would use it for that if I was stuck somewhere and I had nothing else, but only then. Olive oil is not good for any of those purposes and has never been proclaimed as such in the past, at least not by people that know its properties. Having an oil that does all may sound like a good idea but in practice there is no such thing. If you are on here reading this then you have access to the proper products, use them instead. I won't go into all the details why it is not good for any of those tasks but one of the major reasons is that olive oil is organic and it will go rancid. It will attract bacteria and makes a great medium for mold to grow in. Bacteria will increase corrosion in steel and decompose wood. Mold will heavily stain wood. Use something suitable for those tasks instead.
Talking about lamp oil thats something almost in the pass im 76 we cant find it almost no where so we have considered making some with the cooking oil; thank u for such a good video??
Grapeseed is supposedly a lighter oil than olive oil thus able to soak through wick faster?
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That's awesome! I really appreciate hearing that!
What happens when you mix the kerosene with the olive oil 50/50
I dont know, never tried that before.
@@WELSBYROOTS sounds like a new video I get to look forward to 😁
I know, I was thinking the same but figured I’d check the comments first.
I ran out of olive oil. Can I make french fries using kerosene?
No kidding...a kerosene fire on your body is horrible....Ty for the olive oil idea.
Great video brotha , can you mix lamp oil with olive oil
I have never tried that, let me know how it works
@@WELSBYROOTS definitely I'll let you knw 😉
One way is to make the olive oil less heavy by thinning it out
Man this is so right, olive oil doesn't work well on a kerosene lamp, the lamp must be designed to work with oil to work well.
I know it's a year later, however, I'm sending video of a woman who made a firebox with olive oil. She used a cotton mop to make the wicks. They burn very brightly and for 8 hours! Again I know it's a firebox, but maybe the wicks made a difference. Hope you're still interested. :-)
It wouldn't let me download or copy it, so here's the episode and channel:
DIY Dollar Tree Decor Elegant Portable Indoor Fire-pit - Diy Table Top fire bowl - Fireplace - Easy (on the 'creative living lifestyle' channel). Hope it helps.
Try carbon fibre for wick it’s fire proof I use it for alcohol stove
When it heats up the oil will get thinner and absorb end of the work better.
Also try other oils like lavender
Mix a little bit of kerosene in your olive oil thin it out just a little
you also make sure to get the best like Moroccan or Tunisian
Maybe jute twine for olive oil?
the fuel the best olive oil no smoke it's beautiful brith.
Hi, my lanter said kerosen only, can I use oil?
Could you use any tipe of vegetable oil or just olive oil?
Im not sure, Iv only used olive oil. Try it and let us know!
You can use any type of vegetable oil. Generally we use pea nut oil.
What lantern is that? is it still on sale somewhere?
It was just an old lamp I found. Try canadian tire, or antique stores for older ones.
Excellent!
The light isn't even close. When the whole goal of this tool is L I G H T , the decision (including consideration of all the bad) is clear. In my humble opinion.
You could use canola oil to
Not sure, try it out and let me know
You can use any oil. We use pea nut oil as its lot of cheaper.
never really thought of olive oil as a fuel.. learn something new every day.....
Glad you enjoyed this, thanks for letting me know!
Seems pointless to use a fuel such as olive oil, as it is three times as expensive and produces very little light, as kerosene was ment to be used in these lamps. Use the correct fuel, be careful and you will have a useful source of light.
I just want to know where he got the little lantern.
I got mine from Walmart
Love the axe blade! Nice video! Kerosene stinks!
Must live below the equator.. Everything screws off and on the opposite direction!!
New to lamps but can you burn these indoors?
I do, but remember carbon dioxide. sometimes they put off alot of smoke.
Buy some carbon felt and cut ur wick out of that. The wick will NEVER burn and wicks thicker oils up much better that woven cotton
Coconut oil is better than kerosene and coconut biodiesel is even better
Have you tried coconut oil with a kerosene lamp?
How do you make coconut biodiesel?
My lamp just burns the wick and cannot pull up the olive oil, does not work
try using thinner oil and giving it more time to suck it up. see if that works and let me know.
Yep it don't work, white brush cleaning spirit doz no probs
Try carbon felt
Why not try vegetable oil
Olive oil burns the cleanest without carbon smoke if u use cheap vegatable oil it's not clean much smoke ur breathing.
Olive oil is absolutely fine and you'd be better off using it to eat instead canola.
carbon felt maybe?
For a survival situation in a new lantern you can eat the oil for calories.
i was looking for the cancer cure with kerosene.
Can you use Zippo fuel?
No, too volitle.
Zippo is a brand they have compressed fuel and kerosene trench lighter fluid so depends which 1.
Where can I find a lantern that size
try second hand stores, etsy or maybe Amazon.
Wick lanterns use incomplete combustion(yellow flame) to produce light. Incomplete combustion produces a lot of deadly carbon monoxide. Heaters and stoves use complete combustion(blue flame) to product less light and more heat. If your heater or stove flame changes from blue to yellow, the flow of oxygen to the flame is restricted. If you are burning anything, it would be a good idea to get a Carbon Monoxide alarm. If you are burning gas, get a gas leak detector. It is not a good idea to burn something while you are sleeping. Some people fall asleep while some thing is burning. It would be a good idea to get a smoke alarm.
Lamps produce very little CO. CNN and Good Morning America told you a lie straight from Hell
PLEASE GET TO THE POINT WAY QUICKER!
ya Ill redo the video just for you!
I bet if you cut strips out of old jeans you could use em as wicks and burn up as many as you like.
another video said that because the olive oil is thicker you need to have the flame closer to the oil because it doesn't rise as quickly. hope this helps. ua-cam.com/video/6JBq5rEk3ww/v-deo.html
ya, I wish there was a way to thin it out