No. 117 - Oil Lamps - Alternate Fuels For EMERGENCIES
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2019
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Welcome to the Camppatton Family Compound, In this video I discuss some EMERGENCY SHORT TERM alternative fuels for lamp oil. Important Points To Remember: 1) These are Emergency Alternate Fuels. 2) Never use Gasoline, Alcohol or other Flammable liquids in Oil Lamps. 3) Only use combustible fuels. 4) Keep flammables away from the lamps. 5) Stock up on lamp oil now while you can so you don't have to worry about running short in an emergency.
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I changed all my oil lamp wicks to carbon felt and hand sewn in copper crafting wire into it.
Works perfectly.
Never burns up or wears out.
Copper wire transfers heat down the wick and into the fuel.
It is called thermal feedback.
Thinner fuel draws up the wick better.
Thinner fuel also vaporizes faster and more efficiently. This is why in the hot summer time you have little problem using oil lamps but in cold weather they can sometimes give you fits of not thin enough. Saves from having to mix fuels or use expensive fuels.
Cold lighting will always remain the same level of difficulty vs temperature.
When using thicker oils, you may have to sew in an extra copper thread or two.
Or if you expect cold weather use.
You can sew in copper wire into a regular lamp wick if desired.
But remember, those wicks do get used up.
For a neat effect, cut a zig-zag pattern into the end of the wick looks like this:
^-^-^-^-^ on the top end. But bigger peaks.
Or an arrowhead shape. Or a 'fang' shape. Or a spoon shape.
Different patterns yield different flame designs.
Olive oil seems to not want to draw up a wick very well on it's own. For some reason it wants the flame close to the fuel presumably to heat the fuel and thin it out.
Copper wire allows heat transfer to warm the oil and allow the wick to be raised higher for more light if desired.
Edited to fix a typo...
Your comment regarding olive oil you probably correct. My reason : i have built a furnace that runs on old cooking oil. And the oil needs to heat up to certain temp before it burns. I even once soaked a piece of cardboard in oil and tried to ignite it with open flame from a lighter. Didnt work. So the temp of oil plays a big part
Great info!
@@frikkiesmit327 Are you familiar with the old Kerosene type mantle lanterns?
They had an alcohol 'cup' that you put in alcohol and lit it.
The heat from the alcohol heated up the kerosene in the tubing and lit the resulting gasses.
Same principle should work with olive oil and similar.
If you took a Ball/Mason jar, make it into an oil lamp, but along the wick you ran some copper wire down into the oil, that too should vaporize the oil more efficiently.
A sort of thermal feedback if you will.
my oil lamps stink and it's always the wick burning, not the oil. do you mean carbon felt does not burn and a strip can serve as a wick thus burning the oil only?
@@baranjan4172
100% carbon felt does not burn. Just make sure it's 100%.
A little trick I use to stop the lamps from smoking,soak the wick in vinegar then let it dry then install ,also regular trim the wick (black carbon bits) helps.
Thank you. I will try this.
Thank you.
Thanks for the advice. Will definitely try that
Wish it might stop me from smoking?!😆
Sounds like a Great idea, will try it. Thank you.
I'm thankful for guys like you doing all of the leg work to help others. Great information.
I appreciate that!
Good ideas for emergency situations where you don't have the right fuel. Don't forget to have extra wicks for afterwards when you get the proper fuel again.
In a pinch, you can cut three thin strips of old cotton t-shirts and then braid them together for a wick, as well.
I buy “lamp oil” from the local Amish general store. It’s just high quality mineral spirits. It’s cheap doubles as a solvent and burns in my flat wick and center draught lamps clean stable and bright.
Does mineral oil smell?
I hope you mean mineral oil and not highly volatile mineral spirits. Big difference.
I buy lamp oil from a guy named morshu
What you are describing is extremely dangerous please don't do this
@@inhumanfilth681 I bet it's a troll trying to get people killed.
For testing lamps, I use a turkey syringe to move the fuel so it spills less
My funnels were still at my house in CA. Bought more from dollar tree.
I was about to spend my day messing around doing this so thanks for saving me a day
Thanks for sharing this, learned a few useful tips beyond types of fuel to use.
Remember, on the scriptures it talks about having the oil in the lamps? It's biblical. 💥🙏♥️
Yes. For them the wick was laying in a sloped trough from the pool of oil.
Jesus Parable of the 10 brides maids. 5 of the brides maids were PREPPERS and had extra oil so didn't leave and were invited to Jesus wedding whereas the 5 brides maids who weren't preppers had to leave and get more oil. WWG1WGA in Jesus holy name.
Zionist wars; Crusades 1&2, WW 1&2. Balfour declaration & Transfer agreement. "you will know them by their deeds."
Vast majority of "Jews" humans killed in the holocaust were what Judaism would consider half breed "Jews" humans because Judaism like Nazism believes in and practices Purity of Blood = Nazi Eugenics. Think they are the chosen people = Nazi Master race.
Jesus Noah & Lot warned us about these the climate change END TIMES with the book of REVELATION & the cause with the 7 north stars of the PRECESSION of the Alpha Omega equinoxes he held in his hand.
These are just the BIRTHING pains of the climate change END TIMES. Noah's floods won't get pulled around the planet by the moon until the major conjunction of the planets in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to cross the centre of the source of all electromagnetic gravitational energy in the galaxy the galactic nucleus/Plane/Milky way.
Covid like CO2 is a comfortable LIE built upon yet another inconvenient truth.
The Baby Boomers who were born en mass 77 years ago are starting die en mass from the usual suspects of seasonal Flu which leads to pneumonia & old age.
Abortion, LGBTQ, Euthanasia, China one child policy, Covid1984 Quackzine are all DEPOPULATION before the Great Year RESETS the planet. Creating Sodom & Gomorrah so as to blame humanity for the cliamte change END TIMES due to Sodom & Gomorrah. Hegelian dialect.
CRT; Creating Racial Tension with Divide & Conquer BLM & ALM Aboriginal Lives Matter.
"Let the DEAD bury their DEAD."
The Bible is talking about faith.
Eve and Adam heated up with oil
We are being drained of oil... like the birds... their feathers become fluffy as they lose oil.
It is basically being leached from us... one of the main causes is all this ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION we are drowning in.
How many times have you put on a cold damp T-shirt from the day before? Thinking it was hot... it's still hot.. yet this T-shirt is still damp?
Yes with oil... yours!!!
if you slightly trim (cut) the wick corners at a 45 degree the globe will not blacken from smoke. this narrows the flame.
The thicker the oil, the closer you want the flame of your wick to be as close as possible to the fuel reservoir. Olive oil will travel about an inch up ten wick and not much more. Aladdin lamps which are about 4 inches from wick top to fuel don’t really work well with olive oil, however I have managed to get it working with a mix of olive oil and lamp oil... 50/50
I’m always on the lookout for original antique lamps here in the UK ans have yet to find a cheap storm lantern. My Aladdin model 23 lamps get used regularly but the cost of lamp oil is forcing me to experiment with other ideas. I do like the fact that the lamp oil does not smoke, or smell and has a high flash point which means it won’t ignite when spilled
Sew in some crafting copper wire into that wick.
It transfers heat down the wick into the fuel thus thinning out the fuel a bit.
vegetable oil works great In more horizontal wick oil lamps. the Lucerne and double crusie and Betty. I know becouse I have them, they are very old , from 1700s and 1800s.
I am going to try and get some of these at auctions or garage sales. I learn so much from your channel. I will check with Tom and see if we have any of these lamps? I know he has a few decorative ones I got him. Thank you for sharing! Wendy🌸🐞
When you install a new wick and don't want to waste time waiting for the wick to wet itself, try this.....
Take the burner out, run the new wick all the way out (up) and dip it into the fuel. Run the wick back in and install the burner back onto the base. The lamp or lantern can be lit up and used immediately.
Thank you for your tutorial for alternative oils for oil lamps it was very helpful.
Cook the vegetable oil. Bring it right to smoking point and hold it for a while When you do that it thins out. Used vegetable works works in a pinch too
Great video. Those look like the WALMART FLORASENSE lamp and lantern- I got both too. The FLORASENSE lamp oil works great. Be careful- the glass globe on that lantern is VERY thin and easily breaks. Also the lantern wick is much smaller (7/16") than the lamp wick (probably 7/8") so it will put out less light regardless of fuel type. The larger the wick, the worse it would work with thicker fuels. The WALMART lamp works great, and a 7/8" wick gives a lot of light. But it's delicate and not easily portable, and any wind/breeze ruins the flame- so Im buying a DIETZ lantern with a 5/8" or 7/8" wick so I can bring it to family dinners, summers outside at night, etc.
Nothing compares to the comfort and beauty of fire light. I have these indoors and it makes any room look comforting and warm, etc. Put them on a hard stable flat surface away from any fabric or carpeting, and you're fine- oil only burns if its soaked into something, it does not burn on a flat hard surface. So even if it knocks over you should be fine
Carbon felt makes a great wick for vegetable oils
Thank you for this informative video!
I remember grandma lighting her old kerosene lamps when the lights went out. It was a special time in my life, a mixture of the old timey and modernish ways.
Thanks for sharing! I have the same memories with my grandmother and parents. Some tie we would light them just for the mood lighting.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I think the world isn't ready for what's ahead of us. But first, they, we all need Jesus as our King, and also a much simpler lifestyle. And skills to learn how to take care of our own needs as far as possible. We have become the most addicted, dependant nation that probably has ever been.
But we have it within ourselves to learn to be grateful and use our God given brains to do as much for ourselves as we can as long as we can. Praying for our country.
Poor people in morroco used to do a1/3 part of water at the base and 2/3 of pure olive oil to keep a longer flame and a lasting cotton wick
how would that work to save the wick.
@@HealthSupercharger Oil floats on water, making the oil closer to the top of the wick...
But the wick should not protrude into the One third water.....
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water won't burn ?????????
We still have kerosene here in the. Caribbean our local name for it here in is , pitch oil. Diesel fuel here in the Caribbean is something totally different and is used for motor vehicles.
Biodiesel works well in wick lamps and has a more pleasant smell than diesel and usually puts off less smoke too... Thanks for informing people! God bless!
Good to know! I have not tried biodiesel, of course we don't have it around either, but still good information. Thank you.
ah, the smell of fried chicken and french fries !
Got a ? Can you use biodiesel in a kerosene heator?
@@Rachel.S674 yes, usually it will work the carbon chain is very similar… as with any type of heating system make sure you have adequate ventilation… which is why this system really appeals to me. You can have a fresh air intake and an exhaust to outside so the heating system air is isolated from the air inside your building…
Thanks for the video. I was wondering about using different oils.
Change the wick or mix 50/50 lamp oil kerosene with olive, corn, or vegetable oil to make the fuel go further
Ever try corn syrup? LOL
Might make you hungry for pancakes!
@@crazysquirrel9425 no I can’t say I have lol I could go for pancakes now
Lol you guys eat the pancakes for me. I’m diabetic, after your finish. Tell me I’m not hungry. 😂😂🙏
Yeah. I just went with solar garden and gutter lights. I have 4 gutter lights ( one above my door, and 3 over stairs near my house and shed) and 4 large garden lights. They all last for at least 8 hours, even on cloudy days. The gutter lights put out a constant glow- plenty light to even read by, with an optional motion detector putting out an even brighter light, which I deactivate when they are used inside for power outages.
The gutter lights have a small bracket that screws to the gutter, and then the light clips into the bracket, and just lifts out to remove it. The garden lights are on plastic stakes.
I just did a video on the walkway lights I installed from Sam's Club 2 50% off. I also have one on the automatic on emergency lights I bought. Diversify your lighting is the way to go.
Thanks for watching and for your input Andrew.
Yes, me to Andrew. You can charge them during the day on your car dash. 💥💯🙏♥️ Easy not messy either!!! I bought 15 in the summer. 💥☺️👍
You should see the effects of high elevation on the standard kerosene lamp, it's almost a no go at my cabin at 8m000 ft elevation. This is what I found works. Add 3 parts of proposal alcohol 91% to one part kerosene, burns faster but the little water in the alcohol helps the vapor point and stays lit without constant relighting and adjusting the wick. Vodka works at about the same strength with kerosene or olive oil. Diesel works, but soots up something terrible. Use almost anything but gasoline, even a little bit makes it into a bomb, not light or heat if it goes boom or flares all over the place. Thanks for the video.
The store bought propane heaters don't work at elevation, either. their safety isn't a CO detector, but an O2 detector, and if the air's too thin, it'll shut itself off. For your safety. smh
A Coleman white gas lantern can give off a lot of heat.
If you can find a Coleman catalytic heater that too can work.
Wonder 20% diesel 80% cooking oil
I use kerosene in my grandma's lamps, like she did. I soak the wicks in borax and dry completely before using. Kerosene is only $5 a gallon at the gas station but I buy in bulk for my 250 gallon tank so I pay $3.99 a gallon. I have backup kerosene heaters and a woodstove.
Cool. I have several Kerosene heaters as well for my backup to my backup. I have added a bunch of solar walkway lights that I can bring inside to make my lamp oil supply last longer. I'm diversifying my lighting as much as I can.
What does the borax do ? T.y.
@@janisb8064 You'll use this Borax solution to treat the base wick material. Treating wicks with Borax can make the wicks burn brighter and longer. Moreover, it can also reduce the amount of ash and smoke produced by the burning process.
I recall 25. Cent/gallon gas and 50 cent kerosene. 1950's.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound how much to how much water please ?
Used them when a child. Definitely not GREEN. Give your home minimum light unless has an element around the flame that glows. Don’t see many now day
Country store sold kerosine by the gallon so you could decorate your home with beautiful black smoke.
We used kerosine in big stove to heat one room in winter, shut doors to other rooms, had 3 hand made quilts to cover in bed. Wonderful life.
One thing about diesel fuel is fumes can cause eyes to burn a bit so watch the burn rate and lots of soot is a cold flame.
I don't have any oil lamps yet but made my own lanterns using mason jars and used vegetable oil. Still have some things to work on to improve them but they work well for emergencies. Good to know about the diesel fuel and the different oils.👍😊
Diesel can work but a bit smelly/smoky.
Olive oil about the hardest to use.
I have seen it done with coconut oil also in Mason. And crisco in a pinch
Long-term (like several hours) #2 diesel is very sooty compared to K1 aka #1 kerosene.
#2 is also smelly compared to K1.
Interesting. We use a parrafin oil in our lamps. Burns cleaner than kerosene. I can see definitely mixing in order to stretch the oils out because the lamp oils such as the parrafin and or kerosene are very expensive here in Canada. Even expensive olive oil is way cheaper than our lamp oil!
Paraffin lamp oil has a habit of freezing if stored in cold just a tidbit.
You can also make shortening candles.
Yup, I have a video on that and also making canned candles.
I buy kleen heat. I'm in an apartment and can't have my ceilings have soot. Kleenex Heat not only burns clean but does generate about 5° of heat, which can be a game changer here in Upper Wisconsin.
Cool, ah I mean nice I'll look into that. Lately I have been stocking up on Shabbos Lamp Oil, by Ner Mitzvah, in the gallon jugs. Yes I have 20 + gallons of kerosene, but I am saving that for adding to my tractor's fuel in the winter and for emergencies.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound - Yes, please do. Msybe that few degrees won't make a difference to many people, but in an area like mine, cold weather is not something that happens " every so often". But also, for me, because its not kerosene, there is no soot build up on the ceilings, which means a LOT to me.
Good to know. Will definitely try diesel for my outdoor Lanterns and maybe some K-1 for my indoor lamps. Thank you for sharing 👍🔥
Glad it was helpful! Used vegetable oil from restaurants can be used too (after filtering) when blended with diesel or kerosene. Warning: it will smell like french fries and make every one hungry!
Diesel (kerosene)works great but watch the burn rate or you will get a lot of soot and may cause eye irritation. I had a bit of trouble regulating that when I wanted a brighter lite requiring a taller flame.
Thank you more people need to know about these things
And as much as I know, I am learning more from viewers who use them more than I do.
I'm glad of running across your video I had been thinking about the possibility of cooking oil to be used and you answered my question thank you so much Four more years .
I'm glad you got your question answered by the video. I hope you enjoy my other preparedness videos too.
You are going to have to wash your glass globes every few days.
They are very delicate and break easily. I wash mine in a basin of hot soapy water but I wash them separately with nothing else in the basin to bump them against.
Turn the wick down as low as possible before you light the lamp because the flame is going to jump up when you lower the globe.
It will smoke a lot when the flame jumps up too high.
If you keep the flame adjusted so it doesn't smoke you will have to wash the globes less often and so reduce the possibility of breaking them during washing or handling.
Odorless mineral spirits is what I generally use for fuel in kerosene lamps. I get it from the paint isle at the big box stores.
Good points. Thank you for sharing this information
You can also take a cotton ball, unroll it and twist it into wick and let it rest on the side of a bowl or similar container put melted or use rendered fat such as lard as an oil and it works well enough.
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Good stuff buddy thanks for sharing!
The "outdoor stye lamp" draws air different then the chimeny style so it will often be less bright but more stable in a wind, this is by design i believe. as for lamp oil, i was always told it was just refined kerosine designed to burn cleaner aka less smoke BUT often more costly. What I like though in your experiments is the variety of oils / gases as well as mixing idea for a blended thinkness.
Thank you
I am watching this in November 2023 . I live in Scandinavia and it is so blasting cold 🥶 and it will only get worse. The heat bills are outrageous so I am looking for alternative heat and light sources. Thanks again ❤
With lamps you get both.
At $3.99/gallon ,I stick with K2 pump kerosene with a little Citronella oil to cut the smell. My Rayo center draft lamps are guzzlers and I'd go broke using anything else. Great video. Keep prepping.
Peppermint oil and Orange oil work too. 👍
I agree, my Rayo lamps also use a whole bunch of fuel too. They make better heaters than lamps, kind of stinky too.
My Aladdin's though, are just purrrrfect.
That sentinela and lamp oil is not cheap either. The last one I bought was seven or eight dollars for about half a gallon.
Can I use avocado oil?
@Javier Avacado oil will work in a hurricane lamp. The wick on a center draft lamp has too much volume for straight vegetable oils. If your going to use something that expensive, just use Kleen Heat or Shabbots.
No but it was on the other day I posted.
Story line was about a mountain man supposedly famous for his skills challenging Lucas to see who shoots a rifle faster.
I searched and searched to find that lamp. Only place I saw it was on that kitchen table.
There are somewhat similar designs that use springs and such to pressurize the remote fuel tank. Others used a manual pressure pump.
But that one looked gravity fed.
That design could open up more options for fuels. Maybe even olive oil.
Ever seen an antique Coleman kerosene lantern?
They have a priming cup on the generator. You put alcohol in that to preheat the fuel then it can be lit.
I saw one years ago - an old guy had one and was using it fishing one night.
Thinking if something like that could be added to a lantern or lamp, that too could open up more fuel choices. Maybe even help those at higher elevations.
Until then the copper wire strands in the carbon felt is best for now.
I have been after this sort of information for awhile thank you
Glad it was helpful! With the way lamp oil prices are going up and rechargeable battery prices are dropping, I have been adding more rechargeable batteries and solar chargers to my supplies. I still have plenty or oil lamps and gallons for lamp oil, but I am saving that for special situations. For the price of a gallon, I get a 24 pack of batteries that I can recharge hundreds of times. I am adapting with new tech, but not abandoning old tech.
Weirdly,
They used to be called "kerosene lanterns"..who knew
We used an oil lamp to keep our hog water tank thawed out during the winter when I was a kid. We used diesel fuel in the lamp. It was readily available ( step dad was a truck driver) the lamp was all metal. Rectangular metal box with the burner no chimney. I've tried finding them at the farm stores and on line and haven't had any luck.
We used them lamps and Coleman stoves to help heat our tents while hunting
I have a whole be ox of them and they are about half the size of the one he has.
Amazon has those lamps
@@marthaleone584 : Under what search/keywords ?
@@marthaleone584 : Under what search/keywords ?
Very good tutorial you taught me a lot now I know if I ran out of oil lamp with to use thank you for sharing
You have no idea how good your comment made me feel. You nailed the purpose, "If You Run Out". Hopefully everyone will stock up while they can. Have a great evening and Halloween tomorrow.
The reason modern kerosene doesn't gel up in the cold like diesel does is cuz it doesn't have the lubricant waxes needed for the fuel injector pumps in diesel engines. Otherwise, it is from the same ASTM cut as diesel/nr. 2 fuel oil.
Those lubricant waxes are what gum up wicks in oil lights and wick type kerosene heaters.
@@pouglwaw5932 I have yet to find any kerosene that is odorless. It gives off toxic fumes.
Good information, thanks for sharing, God bless !
Hey there! Thanks. This is a nice video. Also cost saving. A great source to use when vegetable or olive oil goes rancid and/or inedible. Olive oil. This is what the “old countries’ in the Mediterranean areas used for lamp oil. The old oil or the 'blow down’ overripe fruits were used in this way. They called it lampante. Pronounce lam pant eh. Used for lamps and early machines. (Source of my info is from a book called Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil. byTom Mueller.)
I've tested gas station diesel in the same kerosene lamp and it worked except the black smoke if the wick is turned up to high, but great for outside use.
Just subscribed Oct- 2020...Greetings !!! From Monterrey, N.l. México; Very helpful THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!
Burning anything in oil lamps is not good for your air quality, although olive oil is the best, however the problem with olive oil is that normal wicks will smoulder after blown out.
Now I can justify storing that quart of diesel fuel I have to drain out when changing the fuel filters on my truck. This also gives me an excuse to buy another lantern.
You should let us know how well Bio-diesel works and mention the hazards of mixing oil of turpentine in with your vegetable oil; because when heated, turpentine is as volitile as gasoline and vreates explosive vapors in the tank
Turpentine is a flammable liquid and I said not to use flammable liquids. Bio diesel is not available here so I won't be testing it. Bio diesel is also a bit corrosive so I wouldn't put it in any metal lamps/lanterns.
Thank you, Clyde Wright
Here in the UK we used to use Paraffin, which is of course the proper name for Kerosene :) It was used a lot in heaters too, however it was also responsible for a lot of deaths through carbon monoxide poisoning, so if you do use these indoors a CO monitor is advisable.
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Paraffin is wax, I melted it colored it and made candles a then whipped it and it turned white like frosting which I then painted on the outside of the cylinder of wax and it looked like snow, Some glitter sprinkled on made it look like Christmas. I also dipped beautiful fall colored leaves in it to preserve them.
Um that's what I was thinking as u sd paraffin. We know it in wax. And when I researched making candles..it kept saying how paraffin wax is bad for health. Now I'm wondering if that is why? 🤔 Many candles have paraffin. I live in a small attic and I notice if I burn for warmth I get sleepy and feels harder to breathe. Like heavy on chest and I have to put them out. I always thought it was comfort feeling sleepy but in the last year i feel it's more the candle itself 🤔 I know soy and honey candles are best. As you can literally use the hot soy wax as a lotion on hands, multi uses.
@@cjd5255 yes! I brlieve it is linked to health problems...even heard lung cancer..?
@@patriciasmith7074 there is paraffin wax and paraffin oil.
Interest. Im always down to add new tricks to my bag and never considered using vegetable oil or olive oil as a mix with lamp oil to extend them. Im a kerosene man myself. Takin it back to the Rockefeller Standard oil days. But knowing how to make biodiesel will be extremely helpful. Thanks Gil
I want to make bio fuel that I can use for lamps and oil fired water heaters
How do you make biodiesel?
@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 There are several videos on how to do it on UA-cam. I haven't tried yet, too busy getting the compound set up. I plan to try in a year or two.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I couldn't find how to tag you but thank you! I knew I could use olive oil in my lamps.
I use Klean Heat, doesnt smell or smoke. Its currently $15/gallon (Dec 2023). I'm going to try a couple of these alternatives.
Remember, these fuels are for emergency use, not daily use. For us the use of oil lamps/lanterns is light eighth in line for our backups for lighting, behind automatic emergency LED lights, battery powered lanterns, solar rechargeable lanterns, etc.
LAMP OIL, ROPE, BOMBS, YOU WANT IT? ITS YOURS MY FRIEND, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ENOUGH RUPEES
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Thank you for kind words and the subscription. I am having a subscriber thank you give away on the 18th and the rule video comes out this morning at 10:30 eastern time.
Thanks for good info on fuels!
Holy comments! 😂 I had a turbo diesel Mercedes running on Alt fuels for 5 years. Lots of experiments from veg/citronella tiki torches to waste oil melting furnace. Fun!
Preheating oils thin them out. I used copper tubing coiled around the furnace before going to the burner as a preheater. Once it's going it's going! Waste oil is a resource! Give waste oil burners some experimentation. You won't regret it.
I have several plans for building waste oil heaters, I just have so much going on getting the properties up to the self-sufficient stage. I want to use them for heating the shops and livestock buildings.
I think that I am a little new to this. Could you do a video of the carbon felt and hand sewing copper wire into it and then showing how it burns but never wears out? Maybe? Thank you! I will definitely learn a lot on this channel!!!
Squirrel does have a camera to make the video, or the bandwidth to up load it. If I can get the materials I will take a shot at it this winter.
I used these as a boy. Both rugged types and glass parlor lamps ( Dont let kids or dogs near them). Gpa and GGpa retired sea captains and brought their sea lamps home. Norse sea folk. When they knew hurricane coming to NJ shore out came lamps. Used kerosene (smelly) oitside and porch and some perfumed light oil for indoors. Very nice and cozy with 2 or 3 in each room. Still have a few. In Fl just north of Ian ground zero.
I hope you came through Ian okay
I have several oil lamps available for use as well as lamp oil. I keep 2 filled at all times. I knew you could use these alternatives in a pinch, but a lot of people don't. 👍
Yeah, there are alternative fuels, but I would prefer that people stock extra lamp oil, it doesn't go bad so they can keep adding to their supplies.
Just remain in the darkness,your eyes will get use to it.
5:38 great video thanks for joining the challenge
Great video. We just recently ordered some lamps for emergencies.
While these are good emergency fuel, stock up on a high quality lamp oil so you don't have to use these.
Will do. Thanks
I tried canola oil in a lamp, but it is too thick to travel up the wick to provide a good rate of burn. Maybe more expensive corn oil will work better since corn is used to make alcohol and is a whole kernel fuel for corn stoves.
I have been experimenting with different materials for home made oil lamps and the wick make a big difference in the size of the flame. some wicks are made for thinner oils. But, the facts that you are trying out oils mean that you will be a bit more prepared if you run out of regular lamp oil. 👍 Keep prepping and learning.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Personally I believe that it is during the peaceful time that we need to be prepared for unexpected events. It applies to people who live in the city too and not for people who live out in the middle of nowhere. I have seen and have experienced what it was like to live during the Vietnamese Tet offensive in 1968 when no one was allowed to leave the house for months due to the communist attacks in the city. No food. No running water (they blew up the main water pipes that fed into the city.) No electricity for over a year!!!! Major power lines were destroyed too. Our house had only two kerosene lamps and a few candles to use. Unfortunately the majority of what we had to do had to be done in the dark. For that reason, thank you for sharing with me your knowledge so I can be prepared. May God bless you.
working on preparedness should be done at all times, good and bad.
Thank a lot for showing your great experiments!!!
My pleasure! I just hope it helps others.
It's a good idea to trim your wick prior to lighting.
True that, the burnt portion cannot hold fuel; I used to have to trim wick after every few hours when I used these lanterns years ago.
I've been using charcoal lighter fluid as a lamp oil in recent months. Basically, any petroleum product classified as a 'Combustible' is safe to use in an oil lamp, lantern or mason jar lamp. Vegetable oils are 'combustible' but benefit from a little help as demonstrated on the video. We use olive oil in our church lampadas. The only problem with olive oil though, is it starts to congeal at about 55* F. But, olive oil burns clean and pretty much odorless.
Ive used diesel as well. Its dirty, but better than darkness, especially outdoors
JP4 is a karosine , jet fuel . In refining the karosines come before the dieseles . The first diesel engine was run on vegetables oil .
Canola oil tends to be a little thinner
Nice video thanks. Never thought it would go back to when I was a kid again kerosene lamps and living life in the 1700 but done it learn all the tricks no heat in the winter that's fun but you learn fast. Yeah vegetable oils won't wick up the oil to heavy guess olive oil is good not really bright but I had a small one from Israel I think it was 1000 years old just had a wick sticking out but you get used to it. But it was better than school you learned from the ground up and know things others would never know. Anyway have fun and learn as much as you can of the old days. Funny people talking about the old days go to Cambodia or some parts of Korea or China they are still living like that.
Very nice, thank you!
Great info. Thank you sir.
Gold to help out with suggestions. Stay safe and prepared.
I got kerosene. 4 space heaters for shop and emergency. Kerosene is a byproduct of gasoline refinement....or vice versa.
Great video, Gill. Watching couple more times. Thank you the share. I got your back, Gil. Beat me to my dirty tricks. Did , We cover smoking? red and green diesel? My memory is shot.
Didn't think it was necessary about red & green, as all it is , is a dye to show highway or off road diesel.
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It’s the same diesel. They just add red dye because of tax for on-road vs off-road usage
Can you trim your wicks? Use very sharp scissors or even tinsnips to avoid fraying. Fuzzy, tattered edges smoke more and do not produce as much light. High centres like a house gable seem to shed the most light, but straight across will do. Thanks.
That was laziness on my part. Yes a well trimmed wick give better light.
Great info thank you so much.
Glad I could help. I'm going live in 20 minutes
Use Goeche fodri oil for the Lamp, works great.
I lived in a small town in Iowa during the 2020 derecho. I had kerosene in my lanterns and used them as primary light for around two weeks. the kerosene smell grew so horribly strong in the house until I became nauseous. Luckily I also had unscented lamp oil and had to switch over to that.
With the increase of LED battery powered lights, I am getting more of them as my primary source of emergency lighting. Solar battery chargers have come a long way in the last couple of years too. Now I use my lanterns as backup to my backup lights or as mood lighting
add citronella oil to the kero to reduce the odour.
What's Really impressive is how you stretched a 5 minute video into a 20 min. Video. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, I appreciate you 🙏🏻
If I tried to do it in just five minutes most of the information would not be included. I did high speed to cut time out but still show what a lot of viewers have asked for in older videos.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound still I appreciate you 🙏🏻🔥 Thank you
That is what I was wondering about mixing thank for telling us about mixing
No problem!
God bless your family they are so cute and thanks for the information
Hey thanks for the tip, I was using vegetable oil with a half inch rope quick and it’s still struggle to draw properly. I wondered what I could mix the oil with that would not separate as you see with water and oil. I’ll have to trade us thanks
Glad to help. Extra virgin olive oil is better than regular vegetable oil or corn oil.
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The vegetable oil doesn't work at all. The flame goes out immediately. Can I mix lamp oil with it, and if so, would I do half and half ??
@@henryottis295 Mixing oils is a trial & error because oil the different viscosity of the vegetable oils, corn oil is different than olive which is different than canola oil.
I has been making oil from when I cook my sausage. When it is first made it is thick and will not work. But when heated over time it becomes thiner and should work.
Good info - thanks for posting the video!
Thank you for watching
I mixed half tallow and diesel, it solidifies some but a thinker substance but not like butter, and it did travel the wick. I did not use in lantern and was smokey. Chicken fat burns well not so thick.........doesn't smell either. Just thinking on ways to use up stuff instead of wasting all the good ness.
Good ideas. How about using the fats to make "Crisco Candle" using a tiki torch wicks? That might work
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I was thinking lamps as the light defuses nicely. And my elderly Mom has a nice collection of the oil lamps. I do have tallow, beeswax, soy wax, but playing around to put basic animal fats to use. The mix of tallow or any lard in diesel would work in an oil lamp though, just smokey. Have kerosine as well, now wonder if that would burn with animal fats in a lantern. Certainly would make the kerosine last much longer.
"But diesel doesn't burn with open flames" people who haven't ever even tried.
My grandparents used these lamps before they got electricity. I don’t miss them .
I like them as useful decorations, They are our second to last list light source.
Thank You! You are an amazing teacher and I was able to learn a lot from your video. Thanks again Phil
Glad it was helpful!
Jet A/JP-8 is an excellent fuel as well if you can get your hands on it. It’s refined beyond #1 and kerosene.
Yes it is, but most people don't have it around for emergencies. Thanks for bringing it up. 👍
I live a block from airport i buy it in bulk 4.50 per gal
You can fly at home if it gets lit !
We have a friend who used to try to save fuel oil and used a kerosene heater in their living room every night. They stuck like kerosene every morning.
I had a bottle of lamp fuel crack and leak, so now when I buy it, I put it in a glass jar and label it.
My cousins used a Kerosun heater. when the wick wasn't trimmed right it would smell.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound so maybe that was the issue...
Thank you for the information.
Any time!
love your DIY vids!!!!! great ideas that work:):):)
Glad you like them!