Nice car good review.... There's a lot of talk about fast charging, the problem is fast charging is very expensive I used the wee charge (we have a vw id4) in athlone and put in 20kwh it cost e14. 86... (it did charge very fast) ... But With fast charging costing that much... diesel is cheaper.. The only way electric is cheap is home charging and even that has doubled since we bought our vw which is a 222.
As I drive an e208 (same car underneath) it’s nice to see the updates to the battery and other tech but the price? Just way too much for what is basically a Super-Mini. All makers really need to get these down to £30k (35k Euros) for the top spec cars to get better take up. My e208 is a company car so I don’t own it and won’t be buying any new EV with my own money at these prices. Saying that in UK used prices for EV’s have slumped so a 2 year old car for less than 50% new is possible now - that’s a lot more tempting.
You may think 308 is better if you want, but based on technical facts it's not so. The 308 is a worse design because: 1. The front is very conventional with a huge grill like so many others. 2. There is no front bumper - behind the emblem is the radar sensor and a camera, the slightest bump and it gets damaged... 3. Reverse lights and rear fog lights are regular old-fashioned light bulbs... 4. 308 is not available with fog lights. 5 Fake exhaust design. 6. Not very sophisticated opening of the boot hatch. 7. Astra has vertical brake light, innovative, 308 old plain conventional. 8. The stern seen from the side consists of a variety of lines in all directions where none harmonize particularly well with any other.
@@Djeseret One advantage of good old-fashioned lightbulbs is they don't cost a fortune to replace. I'm reading about LED headlights costing upwards of €1500 to replace.
@@francisdoran971 Yes, regular standard LED headlights aren't a dramatic improvement over regular old headlights, but the advanced Matrix headlights are, as they can save your life... so the cost may be something you're willing to take... and risk to these expensive ones to be crushed are therefore significantly... less in Opel than in Peugeot, which insists on not having any protection in the design of its cars. Then there was the rear reverse lights and fog lights, which on the Peugeot are placed very dangerously at the bottom of the corners of the bumper, where the risk of them being damaged in small parking accidents is very high, while the Astra has no lights in these exposed places and the Reverse lights are not there at all. Thus, Peugeot's design is more vulnerable to small accidents with subsequent higher costs as a consequence both front and rear.
I think it is a mistake not to start with the sport tourer. That is the one most potential buyers are waiting for. The ordinary body type tested here also has a lot more competitors. What I would like to buy is an electric small traditional kombi from a classic car maker. Is there any other than the upcoming electric Opel Astra Sports Tourer?
It's sister in Peugeot, Skoda are bringing someone out (I've a video on the general shape linked below) and then the stunning A6 etron Avant....😍 ua-cam.com/video/Bfp9_CUjWaY/v-deo.htmlsi=BOIz0daTnirqy5UN
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Pity. MG gives a 500kg rating for their smaller cars. Stellantis are missing a trick here. A family car should be able to pull a light camping trailer or bring bulky, but light, gardening debris to the recycling centre.
Aftermarket price with model 3, I bet you get lot more back with Tesla. And easier to find a new owner. I like the sporty Camaro style front, and fast looking rear design, but the dimensions of the car itself is not sporty enough to meet the rest of the design. Still, not quite enough to ship my money.
What you reckon the price in Ireland will be from? Ball park figure? It a pity the government has done away with the grant. EVs are too expensive for most people, considering I like most would probably move away from petrol and diesel.More people would buy them if more affordable. It a no brainier i wish the government with get this!
50kwh and 150hp for £40k is sh!te… I suspect they don’t actually want to sell any, and they’ve just added them to the line up to lower the average emissions of their range.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I’m not sure, but it won’t matter provided they can convince a few of the bigger company car contracts to take some on… Or give them staff as company cars like Aston Martin did with the cygnet.
If you don't drive faster than 97 and never over 120 km/h, you should be able to cover 430 km according to most test drivers. This car goes longer than the official figure, unlike the experience that all... cars go shorter, many will be surprised...
Disappointing 0 to 60. I know its not all about speed but Electric cars are measured by such things. Its a lovely car though. Has touches of the i4. The dual material seats, the dual display, the daytime running lights shape. Shame about the performance tho.
It's the opposite, it's all other electric cars that have ridiculous performance, that completely lack practicality, increase consumption and wear on tires and road, absolutely not intelligent.
A price that blows your socks off. a range thats way to low (disadvantige of not having a real BEV platform verry small battery) Slow charging for 2023 Whoeber that is thinking abouth buying, you can buy a Tesla 3 or Y and be cheaper or save yourself 10K and buy a Mg4 this car is a joke just like all there evs
The world has big problems with raw materials, big problems with deliveries because the cars are big and heavy with big heavy batteries, raw materials we don't have in sufficient quantity are wasted violently. This car is built to be intelligent.
I had an astra for 12 years. Loved it! This looks fantastic, apart from rear space. Too small for a family car. Love the blue.
Rear space used to be loads but potentially not anymore
REally nice detailed review again - thanks :)
Glad you liked it!
Like the inside layout compared to vw. The elephant in the room is very big.
Great review.
Thanks Derek
Des
Thanks for watching!
Looks nice but 50kWh battery and 150bhp is very poor.
Thanks for the comment Declan. I think it would probably be perfect for the vast majority but sales will tell the tale
It is very... intelligent... based on how the situation in the world looks like.
only the price is high… 🤪
50kwh battery perfect for corsa (I would know) but about time Opel stepped up the battery size with new models
I think 310 kms is enough on this island. But you’ll always come across the strangest comments here.
I recently test the Astra plug-in hybrid, I was mind blown how good it was to drive. Definitely considering the electric model 👍
A really nice drive!
Looks great .. I want one 😊
I really like the looks
Nice car good review.... There's a lot of talk about fast charging, the problem is fast charging is very expensive I used the wee charge (we have a vw id4) in athlone and put in 20kwh it cost e14. 86... (it did charge very fast) ... But With fast charging costing that much... diesel is cheaper.. The only way electric is cheap is home charging and even that has doubled since we bought our vw which is a 222.
Agree on public and domestic charging prices. I hear price drops are imminent for both!
You can't make massive profits without gouging I'm afraid.
As I drive an e208 (same car underneath) it’s nice to see the updates to the battery and other tech but the price? Just way too much for what is basically a Super-Mini. All makers really need to get these down to £30k (35k Euros) for the top spec cars to get better take up. My e208 is a company car so I don’t own it and won’t be buying any new EV with my own money at these prices.
Saying that in UK used prices for EV’s have slumped so a 2 year old car for less than 50% new is possible now - that’s a lot more tempting.
Good to hear from an owner and agree with your points. Good value in the 2nd hand market
Good looking car (Although I think the Peugeots design are much much better) , pity the drivetrain is compromised in comparison to alternatives.
I'm liking both looks. A ground up EV from Stellantis will be interesting
You may think 308 is better if you want, but based on technical facts it's not so. The 308 is a worse design because:
1. The front is very conventional with a huge grill like so many others.
2. There is no front bumper - behind the emblem is the radar sensor and a camera, the slightest bump and it gets damaged...
3. Reverse lights and rear fog lights are regular old-fashioned light bulbs...
4. 308 is not available with fog lights.
5 Fake exhaust design.
6. Not very sophisticated opening of the boot hatch.
7. Astra has vertical brake light, innovative, 308 old plain conventional.
8. The stern seen from the side consists of a variety of lines in all directions where none harmonize particularly well with any other.
@@Djeseret One advantage of good old-fashioned lightbulbs is they don't cost a fortune to replace.
I'm reading about LED headlights costing upwards of €1500 to replace.
@@francisdoran971 Yes, regular standard LED headlights aren't a dramatic improvement over regular old headlights, but the advanced Matrix headlights are, as they can save your life... so the cost may be something you're willing to take... and risk to these expensive ones to be crushed are therefore significantly... less in Opel than in Peugeot, which insists on not having any protection in the design of its cars.
Then there was the rear reverse lights and fog lights, which on the Peugeot are placed very dangerously at the bottom of the corners of the bumper, where the risk of them being damaged in small parking accidents is very high, while the Astra has no lights in these exposed places and the Reverse lights are not there at all.
Thus, Peugeot's design is more vulnerable to small accidents with subsequent higher costs as a consequence both front and rear.
Derek great review - v efficient at 13+ kWh /100km. Nice practical bigger hatchback. €€€ Thanks, Eamon
Glad you liked it! Price and sales will tell a tale
I think it is a mistake not to start with the sport tourer. That is the one most potential buyers are waiting for. The ordinary body type tested here also has a lot more competitors. What I would like to buy is an electric small traditional kombi from a classic car maker. Is there any other than the upcoming electric Opel Astra Sports Tourer?
It's sister in Peugeot, Skoda are bringing someone out (I've a video on the general shape linked below) and then the stunning A6 etron Avant....😍
ua-cam.com/video/Bfp9_CUjWaY/v-deo.htmlsi=BOIz0daTnirqy5UN
Its a silly question, i know, because its a Stellantis, but does it have a tow rating?
Unfortunately not rated
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Pity.
MG gives a 500kg rating for their smaller cars.
Stellantis are missing a trick here.
A family car should be able to pull a light camping trailer or bring bulky, but light, gardening debris to the recycling centre.
Great range for that size battery but the pricing is way off
Thanks for the comment. No Irish pricing yet but let's see
Will be interesting to see how the MG5 compares with the ev 308/Astra estates
Now there's a comparison test
The lower price and 7 year warranty means the MG5 gets the nod from me.
Range wont be bet by any still car
Aftermarket price with model 3, I bet you get lot more back with Tesla.
And easier to find a new owner.
I like the sporty Camaro style front, and fast looking rear design, but the dimensions of the car itself is not sporty enough to meet the rest of the design.
Still, not quite enough to ship my money.
Unfortunately on the more expensive side for sure
What you reckon the price in Ireland will be from? Ball park figure? It a pity the government has done away with the grant. EVs are too expensive for most people, considering I like most would probably move away from petrol and diesel.More people would buy them if more affordable. It a no brainier i wish the government with get this!
I've honestly no idea but I hope they get it right!
the out-going model has a better side profile and side crease
You may be right but I much prefer the new front and rear
@@NevoEVReviewIreland cant argue with you there
Is this fully electric? No petrol no ?
Wass dea range ?
😑
Fully electric sir. WLTP is 416km, real world probably nearer 320
50kwh and 150hp for £40k is sh!te… I suspect they don’t actually want to sell any, and they’ve just added them to the line up to lower the average emissions of their range.
Thanks for the comment. Is the emissions not down to actual sales and not just model availability?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I’m not sure, but it won’t matter provided they can convince a few of the bigger company car contracts to take some on… Or give them staff as company cars like Aston Martin did with the cygnet.
What’s the battery range?
Thanks for the question. WLTP official range 416km, real world probably nearer 350km but need to test it out in Ireland
Definitely could do with a longer range
If you don't drive faster than 97 and never over 120 km/h, you should be able to cover 430 km according to most test drivers.
This car goes longer than the official figure, unlike the experience that all... cars go shorter, many will be surprised...
Looking forward to getting it back in Irish roads
Does anyone actually like black headlining? Is it just a way for car manufacturers to push panoramic roofs?
Very good point! Problem is, I'm not sure it will come with a panoramic roof 😂
How much?
No prices yet unfortunately
@@NevoEVReviewIreland i would say 40k euros plis for an opel. Whwn you could have a new ex40 for similar money next yesr also.
Can't get over the noise cancellation in this car.
It was very very quiet
Disappointing 0 to 60. I know its not all about speed but Electric cars are measured by such things. Its a lovely car though. Has touches of the i4. The dual material seats, the dual display, the daytime running lights shape. Shame about the performance tho.
As you say, not all about speed but yes, it will be judged on the numbers
It's the opposite, it's all other electric cars that have ridiculous performance, that completely lack practicality, increase consumption and wear on tires and road, absolutely not intelligent.
I think most buyers would prefer more range than 0-60 times.
A measurement has now been made which shows that it is one second faster than stated, 0-100 km/h is 8.1-8.2 sec, not 9.2.
BYD, MG4 and Tesla in approximately the same price range or even much lower - mean this car is hopeless.
Sales numbers will be telling
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Yes the proof of the pudding
A price that blows your socks off.
a range thats way to low (disadvantige of not having a real BEV platform verry small battery)
Slow charging for 2023
Whoeber that is thinking abouth buying, you can buy a Tesla 3 or Y and be cheaper or save yourself 10K and buy a Mg4
this car is a joke just like all there evs
Thanks for the comment. Sales numbers never lie so time will tell.
The world has big problems with raw materials, big problems with deliveries because the cars are big and heavy with big heavy batteries, raw materials we don't have in sufficient quantity are wasted violently.
This car is built to be intelligent.