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  • My long termer update on the Astra EV is well overdue but I've had a few problems. 3 punctures in total and the car has been off the road for nearly 4 weeks but what was it like when is was on the road. In this review I answer important questions like what is the real world range, what's it like to drive and is it comfortable on a longer run ?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 364

  • @chasf3433
    @chasf3433 5 місяців тому +30

    Nice, car but why the huge wheels and Ultra low tyres on a low powered family hatch. Smaller wheels and more sensible profile tyres should improve range and ride quality, lower road noise and reduce punctures and wheel damage.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому +4

      Because it looks good 🤔😜

    • @steve7535
      @steve7535 5 місяців тому +1

      60 profile on my car and shit roads in Essex low profile waste of time and money

  • @DavidFisk-q8d
    @DavidFisk-q8d 5 місяців тому

    Nice one. Totally agree with your comment regarding the instant performance of EV's rather than range comfort and general average driving. Encouraging range security for the longer travelling is of higher priority. Thank you sir.

  • @johnbrown3951
    @johnbrown3951 5 місяців тому +1

    One of my favourite cars ever was the three door Astra that I had when my other half wrote off my Renault Estate about fifteen years ago but sadly it had to go back as it was a rental replacement car and for some reason I never got another but did have a Corsa VXR for a while until it started blowing radiators and turbo's weekly. I recently had a slow puncture that after investigation was found to be a buckle on the inside rim of the alloy on the Jag a bill in excess of £100 to rectify that particular issue. I think your new long termer might be an Alfa.

  • @Brian-om2hh
    @Brian-om2hh 5 місяців тому +1

    The problem Vauxhall are going to have with this EV version of the Astra, is the competition at lower initial cost. There's the MG4, the new Renault R5, and others on the way at around £25 to £30k. The list price in the killer with this car, although I'm aware that discounts will be there for the taking.....

  • @user-qq2mo1ek2r
    @user-qq2mo1ek2r 5 місяців тому +1

    Love West Wittering Beach with our dogs.
    Not sure about this car, colour wise I agree with you Pete. Growing up it boiled down to either being a Ford or Vauxhall fan .... I wasn't in the Vauxhall camp. It seems tyres for EV's aren't easy to come by.

    • @kcebliks
      @kcebliks 5 місяців тому

      New tyre for our Mini SE (tyre cut) ordered on Asda Tyres Friday lunchtime, fitted Saturday afternoon (1st fitting slot available).

  • @kevinmills5293
    @kevinmills5293 5 місяців тому +1

    I hope you sent the bill for the tyres to the council.

  • @asherc6151
    @asherc6151 5 місяців тому

    @petrolped Do you have the stat by any chance of people who have bought electric car and taken it back and bought a petrol/diesel

  • @AndySnap
    @AndySnap 5 місяців тому

    I wonder if many EVs could be more prone to damage from potholes due to their weight?
    Also strange that people have a Vauxhall prejudice, given they have been German designed for years now.
    The uniformity of Stellantis 'products' hints to a much duller future, as many manufacturers will design EV 'skateboard' chassis used by lots of 'different' vehicles and brands, but sharing as many components as possible, only a different bodyshell...?

  • @paulkandi
    @paulkandi 5 місяців тому +6

    I own an immaculate 95 Astra, never had a problem with it, starts and runs perfectly, its still worth more than I paid for it and increasing..no range anxiety, just fill her up and drive..perfect...❤

  • @barryrathbone
    @barryrathbone 5 місяців тому +5

    I’ve had a Mokka e for 2 months now and have to say it’s a brilliant car. I’m happy with the range and the drive is perfect for me. I’m averaging 4.0 miles per kWh so to me that’s pretty good. Pheasants are just stupid!

  • @Nick-vp7lp
    @Nick-vp7lp 5 місяців тому +3

    Omg the scratches on the gloss black interior trim 🙄😬
    When will manufacturers stop using these cheap materials?😏

  • @joffbrown
    @joffbrown 5 місяців тому +3

    It’s a ‘car to take you from A to B’ I think that’s all i can say about it.

  • @kevincross9206
    @kevincross9206 5 місяців тому +8

    Vauxhall have upped the game in the aesthetic department, it’s a good looking car, (I think the tourer is actually slightly better).
    The Cobalt blue / black combo looks great, I agree.
    Refreshing to get some real world range figures out of the manufacturers, which can only give confidence to the customer base.
    Looks to be a good honest option at a more realistic price.

  • @gerrywhelan7426
    @gerrywhelan7426 5 місяців тому +2

    A bit of a turn away from EV's!
    That's an understatement surely, considering the huge depreciation buyers are now suffering.
    Get back to proper engines & spare wheels.

  • @gibbykirwan7788
    @gibbykirwan7788 5 місяців тому +2

    A combination of both crappy roads & rediculously heavy ev cars means more problems lie ahead.

  • @Isclachau
    @Isclachau 5 місяців тому +2

    Damn. It costs a bomb, weighs a ton. Hence tyre punctures. Depreciates a ton, a modern petrol is just as quiet and does 400 to 600 miles. Stop with these awful EV’s. The writing is on the wall for them already.

  • @MattyThomas86
    @MattyThomas86 5 місяців тому +2

    Underpowered , battery to small compared to its competitors and over priced

  • @peterclark8327
    @peterclark8327 5 місяців тому +8

    Great video as always but at over £43k that’s more than a new Tesla RWD Model 3. I don’t think they’re sell many at £43k. Probably £33k is nearer where it should be for this car. Also whilst you said the car was showing a range of circa 250 miles, it’s a shame you weren’t able to test that due to the punctures. Looking forward to seeing what the next long termer is. New Range Rover!??🙂

    • @Lewis_Standing
      @Lewis_Standing 5 місяців тому +2

      They are going for about that on auto trader, just filter for astra electric and there's 20 test drive models up for grabs at 35k or so

    • @loader4591
      @loader4591 5 місяців тому

      A quick scan of the website showing PCP deals @4.50% which is probably the way I will go if/when I pull the trigger on an EV. I also see the Frontera is making a comeback…

    • @paulhemming159
      @paulhemming159 5 місяців тому

      I'll take the second hand ford KA and buy a decent ICE for fun in the weekends lol 43k for an Astra wtf!!! You could get sooooo much used ICE car for that money wowsers!!! 43k on HP for your average Joe, by the time you pay for it the batteries will be cooked and the car worthless!!

  • @pipoo1
    @pipoo1 16 днів тому +1

    Lease deals for Astra Ultimate EV currently start at around £150 per month. This currently makes it the most affordable Astra model available for lease. Clearly Vauxhall are gunning for a lead position in the EV market.

  • @bigphilswheels
    @bigphilswheels 5 місяців тому +6

    I think you’re being a bit unfair on Vauxhall for using the same switchgear as other Stellantis cars. VW group have been doing it for years in Audis, Skodas and Seats and no one has complained. Unfortunately , commonality of components is a fact of life for modern manufacturers, to help with cost of manufacture. Other than that Pete, really good vlog. 👍👍

  • @christurner8062
    @christurner8062 5 місяців тому +2

    Automotive greyness at its best. I bet your Defender would have got through the potholes! I think Karma was just trying to keep you out of such an average car - clearly by hard you were trying to say good things about about it - never heard you say “nice” so much 😀. It’s a very good colour combo, but shows the cheap cost cutting build when I see exterior colour around the interior door frames - really in this day and age! Send it back and tell Hendy to give you something decent!

  • @markshephard4400
    @markshephard4400 5 місяців тому +1

    The car is not jinxed, our roads are not Fit For Purpose, you have not taken into account that these EVs are unreasonably heavy cars and therefore do not cope well with smashing down holes in the road. I am very surprised to hear you say the miles achieved are virtually as per the manufacturer’s spec, most people seem to say they fall woefully short of expectations! Nothing I see or hear about EVs would encourage me to buy one, COST, BATTERY EXPECTATIONS, DREADFUL DEPRECIATION, CHARGING ISSUES and if what we are told is true THE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE manufacturing the batteries. No thank you I will stick to my petrol car for the foreseeable future. PS. Time will tell just how much additional road damage these EVs do to the roads with their sheer weight!!

  • @richardjeffery5594
    @richardjeffery5594 5 місяців тому +3

    A week wait for two tyres? Utter nonsense!

  • @plbingham
    @plbingham 5 місяців тому +1

    I think these Astras look fabulous. Shame they aren't giving the Insignia this treatment and have binned the car in the range as it sits. We have the 2014 VXLine 2.0d like the one you reviewed, had for nearly 10 years now, as well as the 2018 VXLine 2.0d which is simply brilliant. VX really do have great cars.... not sure what to get in place of the Grandsport now.... maybe the Genesis G70.....

  • @dpn1604
    @dpn1604 5 місяців тому +1

    Nice car but at the moment, the cheapest one on auto trader is £28k vs £23k for a petrol (2024 models). If I was on the market for a car at the moment, at that price point, I'd probably consider an older petrol Astra. I just can't justify the EV price point. Even the petrol one is expensive, if you go brand new but drop a few years on the petrol and the EV (which came out in 2023) is starting to look like a bad financial decision after a night out...

  • @mattsky0794
    @mattsky0794 5 місяців тому +1

    Not totally related but I drive a new Vivaro EV van for work and the vast majority of the buttons, indicator/wiper stalks etc are identical to Peugeots. Its only 4 months old and usual Stilantis build quality. Randomly says the electric handbrake is faulty, the dash language changes to French all the time and the touchscreen locks up with a blank screen. Thank god its not mine. Peugeot have ruined Vauxhall

  • @andrewsmith7636
    @andrewsmith7636 5 місяців тому +2

    My only comment is, ev sales have massively dropped and manufacturers are moving away from them there not environmental friendly

  • @leightonrawlings3971
    @leightonrawlings3971 5 місяців тому +1

    Trouble is this car isn't 100% Vauxhall, it's a Peugeot underneath, I wouldn't buy Vauxhall I rather buy a Kia which I have one.

  • @916hayabusa
    @916hayabusa 5 місяців тому +1

    Seems that the ev is a toy for people with a lot of spare cash, I’m sure most who have an ev, also have access or own a petrol or diesel, certainly, the majority of people living in the uk, don’t have their own drive/off road facility for a personal charger, that’s the reality in the uk.
    Why are people having a back and forth over the make of the car, once the engine is gone, it just becomes a battery car, in different couloirs, it doesn’t matter what the emblem says on the front of the car or the steering wheel, it has just become a generic battery car, with no individuality, people better get ok with having a vehicle that looks like most others, unless you have Porsche Tycan kind of money to burn.

  • @martynromaine8518
    @martynromaine8518 5 місяців тому +1

    I have had Vauxhalls for 20 years and the one i have at the moment is a mk7 Astra VX-Line SRI on a 69 plate and i love it But this will be my very last Vauxhall because now that they are made by Peugeot and not GM i will never buy one. I took a new one for a test drive last year and i hated it. It felt so different and it was not a good feeling to drive

  • @Dreamweaver787
    @Dreamweaver787 5 місяців тому +1

    Is it an Astra or a Peugeot, since the two have come together every Vauxhall looks like a Peugeot, the Astra has lost it's identity and will fall foul of all the Peugeot faults they always have. Shame as I always thought the Astra was a half decent car till now.

  • @philipmoore591
    @philipmoore591 5 місяців тому +1

    Great review i still dont think it convinces me about going EV and what is the price point? I may have missed it. As for potholes they are everywhere.

  • @tiguanman1170
    @tiguanman1170 5 місяців тому +3

    There's a lot of very decent secondhand ICE cars for up to £38k. Why would any body....?

  • @johngoodwin1710
    @johngoodwin1710 5 місяців тому +1

    To be fair to Vauxhall, they’ve made an EV which looks normal and not something the size of a distribution centre 🕋

  • @jamesfoote8916
    @jamesfoote8916 5 місяців тому +1

    Shinny black there is no way that interior is going to stay nice even with a coating on top I don’t know why manufacturers do this.
    James

  • @greenyrog
    @greenyrog 5 місяців тому +12

    Nice to see an "average car" reviewed, where I live, Sedbergh Kendal area, traffic rarely seems to get above 40mph, so quick cars are a little pointless. I have an Astra 1.4 sri, ok at most things without being great.

    • @briangriffiths114
      @briangriffiths114 5 місяців тому +3

      Exactly the same here in central Scotland. I hardly ever use the available power of my Fiat 500e which is classified as slow, despite having a real-life 0-60 that matches a Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому +2

      Cool, thanks!

    • @johnnyalanbailey
      @johnnyalanbailey 5 місяців тому +1

      @@briangriffiths114 7.9 vs 8.5? Not quite the same

    • @briangriffiths114
      @briangriffiths114 5 місяців тому

      @@johnnyalanbailey The Fiat 500e official 0-62 time is 9 seconds, but most UA-cam channels record 8 seconds dead which is a shade quicker than the Peugeot. (knock about half a second off this for 0-60, as you will know)

    • @johnnyalanbailey
      @johnnyalanbailey 5 місяців тому +1

      @@briangriffiths114do the same for the purgeot and then it cancels each other out sadly

  • @anthonybrown4874
    @anthonybrown4874 5 місяців тому +1

    Looks like a depreciation monster to me and possibly a good buy when down to £12k in value.

  • @andymurdoch1346
    @andymurdoch1346 5 місяців тому +1

    Is that the Astra off roader model?
    Looks OK for an Astra but its just a bland granpas car.

  • @menifo4334
    @menifo4334 5 місяців тому +2

    Do manufacturers design their every single model having 'sportiness' in mind? Do consumers make their choice of a car with 'sportiness' being the only feature worth going for?

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      No, and that’s what I was saying 👍

  • @GRAHAMAUS
    @GRAHAMAUS 5 місяців тому +3

    I"m wondering if motorists need to simply suck up pothole damage as 'bad luck', as opposed to, say, suing the responsible authorities for negligence. A few expensive law suits might help concentrate their efforts to getting stuff actually fit for purpose.

    • @tiggercat8689
      @tiggercat8689 5 місяців тому

      That is a good point and I've done it once, but far harder than you imagine. They aren't liable for craters in the road, you have to prove that the hole you hit had been reported to them and then they failed to make it safe within the timescales they set themselves! Of course, unless you reported it yourself, how do you prove they knew? If you reported it, you knew about it and don't hit it...so it gets into FOI requests for submitted road reports, council inspections, etc.

  • @alfagtvjan
    @alfagtvjan 5 місяців тому +1

    £35K for a nearly new used one. I'd want something more interesting if it was my money.

  • @rayjones9231
    @rayjones9231 5 місяців тому +1

    They are doomed at that price point! Far too expensive. Tesla M3 a much better option

  • @davidlee4966
    @davidlee4966 5 місяців тому +1

    Such a soulless boring product (sorry couldn’t bring myself to calling it a car)

  • @lesvassallo5760
    @lesvassallo5760 5 місяців тому +1

    The residuals are horrendous and would not buy new. They drop like a stone.

  • @shakesnbake
    @shakesnbake 5 місяців тому +5

    You need a tyre insurance company to sponsor the Astra videos 😅

  • @harry-james-books
    @harry-james-books 5 місяців тому +2

    Doesn't seem to have been picked up on, but Vauxhall/Opel have quietly "70's retro'd" the latest models... go and have a look at the bonnet/front view of things like the Victor FD and the Opel Commodore C and you'll see what I mean...

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому +1

      I see that 👍

  • @bigfist255
    @bigfist255 5 місяців тому +1

    Why would you buy a vauxhall ev or ford when you can buy a tesla.

  • @grahamwoodier5066
    @grahamwoodier5066 5 місяців тому +2

    Can anyone remember when new cars always came with a spare wheel/tyre? This would be really handy with our pothole ridden roads - unless you are unlucky enough to destroy two tyres at once. I don't imagine your "mobility kit" (a bottle of glue and an electric pump) will be much use on the kind of damage potholes cause.

  • @paulmayer8645
    @paulmayer8645 5 місяців тому +1

    Hopefully someone from WSCC will see this and feel more than just a little bit ashamed about the state of their roads. Best avoid the B2146 near you, especially the Emsworth Common Road section, they’ve got craters for potholes! As for the Ashtray, for that sort of money surely you’d want a car that is more than just ‘nice’? If you’re going to spend > £40k wouldn’t you want a vehicle that’s best described as ‘exciting’. If you can afford it, would you really buy/lease a Vauxhall? It’s the type of vehicle you’d pick up as a hire car at the airport and sigh with disappointment. And yes, Selhurstpark Road behind Goodwood race course (nowhere near Crystal Palace 😂) is great for letting rip a bit.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      I doubt it. They are a bunch of muppets 😢😂

  • @darrenletts195
    @darrenletts195 5 місяців тому +1

    Shared switchgear ? ........ I went on a track day about 10 years ago and one of the cars was a Lamborghini Gallardo : the majority of the switches / stereo etc were identical to the beat up Diesel Audi A4 I drove to the event in. Instantly removed ANY sense of being in an exotic supercar !!

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      Including the key 😢

  • @familycurtress6829
    @familycurtress6829 5 місяців тому +1

    This is not a real world test of the practicality of an EV. Pootling around the Sussex countryside for short trips without having to grapple with the eye wateringly expensive real world public charging network on a longer drive is just not a realistic test on which to base a buying decision. No mention of the appalling depreciation or that dealers are reluctant to part-ex them. Maybe a journalist whose living depends on being given cars by dealers (desperate to sell an unwanted stockpile of EVs) to jolly around in for a few months and then hand them back to get the next one isn't going to be totally objective possibly? Would they bite the hand that feeds them?

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      Firstly, I am not a journalist. I ran a Mustang MachE for 9 months I didn’t need to use public charging once. As I said. I had planned a longer journey but that was not possible.

  • @philipmichaelhughes5719
    @philipmichaelhughes5719 5 місяців тому +5

    Thought there’d be issues…it’s a Vauxhall.

    • @darrenwallis7630
      @darrenwallis7630 5 місяців тому

      Potholes?

    • @SteveR-w1q
      @SteveR-w1q 5 місяців тому

      What they are more likely to suffer punctures from potholes 🤡

    • @johns14a
      @johns14a 5 місяців тому +2

      Actually, it's a Peugeot.

    • @philipmichaelhughes5719
      @philipmichaelhughes5719 5 місяців тому +1

      I’ve got the new 308 “ICE” and it’s a better car for £15k less!

    • @philipmichaelhughes5719
      @philipmichaelhughes5719 5 місяців тому

      A £41k minimum one too…

  • @steveburland624
    @steveburland624 5 місяців тому +2

    Not much hope for us mere mortals if Puncture Ped Michelin ambassador can't get the tyres for the common car.😉😁

  • @beaublue1625
    @beaublue1625 5 місяців тому +1

    How on earth did you accept that car as a long termer PP?
    I know you’ve negotiated it down to one month but from a Defender 90 to a Astra…. I’d be absolutely gutted & doubt I’d use it unless…. You are attractively paid to do it 😉

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      I like to bring variety to the channel. They were both very different car but good in their own way 👍

  • @andymurdoch1346
    @andymurdoch1346 5 місяців тому +1

    I thought we had the worst roads up in Scotland and you had super smooth race tracks down souff.
    We are being screwed into the ground in this country for tax and fuel prices and a very small percentage actually finds its way to maintaining the roads. They are shocking and unacceptable. My view is that the materials are not fit for purpose but cowboys constantly digging them and doing dodgy repairs is the main source of road faults.
    Its disgusting what we have to put up with in this pathetic country.

  • @markdean3217
    @markdean3217 5 місяців тому +1

    A stellantis product , has it gone yet ❗️👎🏻

  • @craigbrown5667
    @craigbrown5667 5 місяців тому +1

    Too expensive for what it is. A Vauxhall.

  • @kmack5799
    @kmack5799 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow! Vauxhall claims up to 250 miles.. My 6 years old diesel can do up to 600 miles and takes 2 mins to fill up. That's hardly progress.

    • @mattmackenzie1111
      @mattmackenzie1111 5 місяців тому

      Do you fill up with diesel at home as well. Thats very clear

  • @Koulis_
    @Koulis_ 5 місяців тому +1

    I wouldn't go by what the guessometer tells you at full charge as some makes suddenly drop the range when you get nearer to empty.
    I know Stellantis have improved efficiency since their appalling early efforts but I'd still be careful and check the range prediction regularly.

  • @Ronick-Q-46
    @Ronick-Q-46 5 місяців тому +1

    Always like to see why I'll never own an EV.

  • @robertmackenzie5850
    @robertmackenzie5850 5 місяців тому +1

    I would rather have a petrol version
    People are turning away from EVs , hence why all the deals flying about

  • @leemace9638
    @leemace9638 5 місяців тому +3

    Glad I emigrated to Australia 🇦🇺 20 years ago from east Sussex sounds like all the roads are rooted 😮 Holden has pulled out of Australia can’t get the Astra anymore shame it’s a nice looking car but I do miss the white GTE 16v I owned when I was younger with it’s digital dash 😂👍👍

    • @robshipway2269
      @robshipway2269 5 місяців тому

      I live in Seaford off the Afriston Road. Now, if you look at google maps street view for the bottom of my road, which was done in May last year, there are no potholes. In the last few months, two large potholes have emerged at the bottom of the road. Now works have been done supposedly to the trees in the area, which closed the Alfriston Road off in sections. But there seems to be no work being done by East Sussex Highways on the Alfriston Road. You even have councillors in Crawley, complaining about two very large potholes in their road and again I don't think much is being done by West Sussex Highways to fix those. Even though the situation has made it to the local press.

  • @tomonyszko6754
    @tomonyszko6754 5 місяців тому +35

    Your use of "Nice" is such telling word....be honest, its a very average car. Basically, what you'd expect of a Vauxhall

    • @robertallardice8119
      @robertallardice8119 5 місяців тому +3

      Peugeot!

    • @richfixescars
      @richfixescars 5 місяців тому +3

      But it's actually a Peugeot now.

    • @dominicr4740
      @dominicr4740 5 місяців тому +3

      What’s wrong with it being nice?

    • @dominicr4740
      @dominicr4740 5 місяців тому +1

      @@richfixescars Or is the Peugeot a Vauxhall? Or are they both Citroen’s? Or are they all actually Fiat? 😂

    • @ohyesitsme
      @ohyesitsme 5 місяців тому

      @@dominicr4740 Probably Jeep 😁

  • @James-cs2wi
    @James-cs2wi 5 місяців тому +2

    I had a Vauxhall Vectra mark 1 that did over 500k miles on the original clutch engine and gearbox still driving nice it only needed a set of injector seals and that was it no rattle from the timing chains absolutely blinding cars😊😊❤ wish I never sold it ❤

  • @ChristianDee-s9d
    @ChristianDee-s9d 5 місяців тому +2

    Just a thought: does the extra weight of the Li-on battery in an EV mean the car hits potholes that much harder, causing a proclivity for punctures?

  • @sammygirlie345
    @sammygirlie345 5 місяців тому +1

    Not an astra but a mokka ev had two on offer shocking bad quality and both had punctures

  • @ianemery2925
    @ianemery2925 5 місяців тому +2

    When I worked for Vauxhall Fleet, the Astra was always my favourite to drive - it had the best range of adjustments to seat and steering wheel of any car in their range; and handled better than anything but the 2.5L S2 Vectra V6 manual - a pretty rare car.
    The biggest issue with Vauxhall has always been build quality and finish; the number of cars I rejected, coming out of PDI; and the wear/failures on some long term demonstrators I was tasked with collecting........
    Windows falling out, brake pedal switch failures in the first 10 miles (common on the Vectra), drive shaft failures, aircon failures; perhaps the newer cars are better made that they were 15-20 years ago, but my experiences put me off ever buying a Vauxhall NEW.

  • @keithweybury5212
    @keithweybury5212 5 місяців тому +2

    Very nice EV Hatch. I am an ECO driver in my Volvo Crossover C40 here in Australia, we have distances to travel here. I am a impressed with the Astra.Glad you mentioned the Motor has appeal and I agree it would suit well as a small family car.

  • @mackas69
    @mackas69 5 місяців тому +2

    I think the current Vauxhall styling is the best it has been in at least 20 years. I like it - it's distinctive and differentiation is going to be a big issue for all manufacturers going forwards when there's no engine involved, just software and styling.

  • @ma40
    @ma40 5 місяців тому +2

    It wouldn't be my first choice, but at least they've had the courage to make a modern EV estate version of the Astra. It's definitely refreshing change from all the SUVs coming to market.

  • @johnhutchinson635
    @johnhutchinson635 5 місяців тому +3

    Driven numerous Vauxhalls over the past 30yrs, all been fairly reliable and affordable but was honestly shocked when I looked to see the list price, £43k for an Astra! I know car prices have gone up but it’s an Astra, aren’t they meant to be reasonably priced cars? Update, the petrol 1.2 auto is £34.5k which I guess is better but still a lot. Also, for the money there seemed to be a lot of average looking black plastic on the interior, maybe it’s the camera not doing it justice?
    I can honestly say with a typical budget of £30k when I buy a car (I don’t like the idea of a lease), I will stick with buying an 18month old petrol car with an list of less than £40k to avoid the higher road tax, I realise a time will come when that may not be an option 😞

    • @al1356
      @al1356 5 місяців тому +1

      Imagine driving that car around and having to pay the premium tax on it for 4 years. No chance

    • @paddymckibbin3957
      @paddymckibbin3957 5 місяців тому

      A 3 year old model will sell for less than £20K with about 20K miles, much more affordable for the masses. I bought a 3 year old corsa e a year ago with 16K miles for less than £15K and it is a brilliant small car which is roomy and has decent boot space. 200 miles range and is great to drive.

  • @grahamrock3942
    @grahamrock3942 5 місяців тому +1

    P.P., with P.P. problems...perfect. Stunning vehicle, must admit. Now an avid Honda follower but back in 1973 to 2004 an avid follower of the Vauxhall Brand..,everything from the 'Humble' VIVA, then VX4/90, to the simply unbelievable comfort of the OMEGA V6...all trouble free.
    SO, P.P., if you would care for a Trip to South Lincolnshire at some time you may wish to enjoy 'our' none existent Roads...."we" don't have POTHOLES we literally enjoy CRATERS and learn to manoeuvre around them, (when it's safe to do so, obviously....this includes our "A" Roads).
    Obviously conclusion to ALL these problems would clearly be to get yourself into the CITROËN C5X and just "Glide" over the imperfections on our UK Roads...but try not to fall asleep sitting in unbelievable LUXURY...,STAY SAFE..G.A.R.

  • @drevo50
    @drevo50 5 місяців тому +2

    I have never lost so many tyres as in the past 18 months (I live in Cambridgeshire). The lack of road maintenance is appalling; a recent road trip to the Lake District found some sections of the M6 pretty poor, but not tyre shredding; Lake District roads were way better than our home roads.

    • @breseler
      @breseler 5 місяців тому

      Cambridgeshire here too - I thought our roads were bad but a recent trip down to Wallingford I was shocked how bad they were around there - moon craters would not be pushing the description to the extreme...

  • @nonamenameless5495
    @nonamenameless5495 5 місяців тому +2

    I m glad that Opel (Vauxhall) went for the new (retro) design, esp at the front, in terms of proportions - at the wheel arches- it doesn t seem quite right but it s a massive improvement, one that puts them back on the map for me at least. I happened to get a few Opels as rental cars over the past years and the one thing that actually really strikes me no matter what model I got: every time I think, "oh I really like those seats" and I love that they didn t go all out on the touchscreen mania. Meanwhile, when I get asked if I wanted a Golf 8 vs "whatever other car model", you can be sure I pick the other one except if it s a Tesla...that s the one that s even more horrific in terms of usability...let alone its atrocious build quality/ materials.

  • @timrothwell33
    @timrothwell33 5 місяців тому +2

    That thing about the centre console controls being the same in a Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen is only a "problem" for you because you sit in a lot of cars. We have the Citroen e-C4 and yes those controls in the Astra are very familiar but I don't care because it's the only car we have. Also, Renault isn't part of a massive multiple-brand group like Stellantis so isn't a fair comparison.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      I get that I am more likely to spot that but if you are shopping around you are going to spot the similarities 🤷‍♂️

    • @timrothwell33
      @timrothwell33 5 місяців тому

      That's a fair point if you go to multiple Stellantis brands. We chose the e-C4 having also seen the e-2008 and Kona. I couldn't have told you the visual similarities between the e-2008 and e-C4 because they are quite different overall. Personally speaking, I understood the platform (battery, motors) were basically identical but I wonder how many other buyers would@@PetrolPed

  • @robertratkajec8899
    @robertratkajec8899 5 місяців тому +3

    Does TPMS not work when u shredded so many tires?

    • @jwpalfrey
      @jwpalfrey 5 місяців тому

      I expect the tpms is not individual wheel sensors but the far cheaper method of rotational speed changes sensed by the wheel speed sensors it's very simple and effective but only when driving at speed so can't tell immediately from a stand still.

  • @ginggur17
    @ginggur17 4 місяці тому +1

    Evening mate, damn potholes, UK at its worst.

  • @robertimrie3710
    @robertimrie3710 5 місяців тому +1

    Pete, you must find it difficult reviewing regular cars after a 911 etc. On your overtaking at 55 comment, I have the fast Model 3 (the feature came with big battery at time, no other option ) and I find mostly all that power does is get you into illegal speeds before you can scratch your nose and as much as I like to drive and enjoy a twisty road I am no Fangio. If a mister average needs to put the boot in to overtake maybe you shouldn't. I would be interested in your thoughts as a qualified advanced driver. In the early days I found 1. many country roads are ok until you do a "quick overtake" then surface "bobble" can rapidly become unnerving, and 2. long trucks are still long trucks and a quick car doesn't make much difference if you want to keep it barely legal. The exception is steep climbs if you want to nip from 40km/h to 100km/h to take advantage of a short passing lane. I think most drivers and myself should stick with sufficient acceleration on public roads.

  • @richardjackson139
    @richardjackson139 5 місяців тому +1

    What a horrible interior

  • @ginggur17
    @ginggur17 4 місяці тому +1

    A great review. 👍🇬🇧

  • @briangriffiths114
    @briangriffiths114 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks to huge discounts, there are some good bargains to be had amongst the Stellantis Group, whose products match the needs of a large number of buyers who, like me, don't care about badge snobbery.

  • @nigel.w
    @nigel.w 5 місяців тому +1

    Too expensive for what it is, IMO. However, as a car it seems perfectly adequate for a small family or a couple with two small dogs. ;P) More than adequate, in fact. Add a Boxster for weekend fun, and I'm not sure what there would be for anyone to complain about. Of course, all you could ever need is not the same as all you could ever want.
    For less money, if I wanted an e-hatch, I'd probably go for the MG4 XPower, but there are lots of deals with more than 10k discount available on these Astras. Still, for the same money with discounts, you can get an MG4 XPower. Of course, I'd be falling into the trap of more power than anyone could need on UK roads. But most of us will opt for more power for the same money. That said, if I could save big on a lower-powered car, I probably would.
    Typically, 150-170bhp is more than sufficient for brisk overtaking. And IME, that's also more than enough to get your average driver into big trouble. And I don't think all the nanny aids can help someone who chooses a bad time to overtake.

  • @DSN262
    @DSN262 4 місяці тому +1

    You lost me a 'dig it'

  • @lesmorton4623
    @lesmorton4623 5 місяців тому +2

    I've just returned my Peugeot e2008, which I loved - until the ABS loom broke one month before the end of the lease. Stellantis were an absolute nightmare and it was finally fixed just before I ran out of lease having been in the dealership for a month. This experience totally ruined the good feelings that I had about the car. I'd never, ever get a car from a Stellantis group company again. Now in a Kia Niro EV and loving it.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      Sorry to hear that 😢

  • @jellyd4889
    @jellyd4889 5 місяців тому +1

    Too small in the back, if you have child seats. A Golf or iD3 is way bigger. Also, feels narrow in front.... Sporty.

  • @jasonbox2407
    @jasonbox2407 5 місяців тому +1

    hmmm seems a little dull?

  • @stevezodiac491
    @stevezodiac491 5 місяців тому +1

    You admit that you have never had a long drive in the Astra EV but definitively say that because the guessometer says 250 miles with a full charge, that is what you will get.
    😂😂😂.
    It's the way you tell 'em ! Now introduce highway speeds, never in this world !
    (EV database real world figures 140 miles highway in cold weather. 180 miles highway mild weather )

  • @NotTheMaestro
    @NotTheMaestro 5 місяців тому +1

    It's very expensive, I don't see any reason to buy this over a Tesla Model 3, the standard range is cheaper and you can get the long range for a few extra £k.

  • @maureenheasman5897
    @maureenheasman5897 5 місяців тому +1

    Specific spec tyres that are not on the shelf. Is this another EV issue?
    Given it’s a really popular mainstream car and brand. That’s not acceptable.
    Ive had 2 Astra’s. When it needed new tyres. I had the choice of many brands and a drive in and fit availability at several local tyre depots.

  • @richardhargrave6082
    @richardhargrave6082 5 місяців тому +1

    Stellantis EVs are too pricy and I agree that they've taken the sharing thing too far and the moment
    I've had three tyres go in the last 15 months, there are so many bad roads that you can't identify where the problem came from
    Guessing a Maserati Grecale for your next long termer

  • @nicholashills6972
    @nicholashills6972 5 місяців тому +2

    That's nice, I've got an Ampera, which is off the road at the moment due to a dodgy steering lock module, which they are struggling to get, and it drives very similar.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  5 місяців тому

      Sorry to hear that

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 5 місяців тому +1

    I’ve got an e2008 and never use the s mode, may be that’s because I’m coming up to 72! Never found it lacking in power. Do find the Astra a bit of a low runner though and prefer a small SUV again that’s and age thing!

  • @brendanmccabe8769
    @brendanmccabe8769 5 місяців тому

    Maybe I missed or mis-understood something with regards to the range. You say that when full it 'indicates' 250+ miles and slightly later you say on a full charge you are getting 250 but don't clarify if you are actually 'getting' this or if you're accepting that the indicated range is achieveble. Unless you've actually covered the miles I think you're wrong to claim this as actual range. Car manufacturers are well renowned for using make believe figures for MPG, should we now believe they've become honest?
    I did a bit of searcing a while ago and was given advice that range is typically 3-4 times the kWh value, since then I've looked at some figures which EV drivers have actually achieved and note that the figures generally seem to be closer to the 3x then 4x values. If Vauhall are to be believed they seem to have managed to achieve 4.8x, if true it looks like they are world leaders.

  • @ronmccullock1407
    @ronmccullock1407 5 місяців тому +1

    My Grandland Ultimate is in the same colour

  • @DavidFisk-q8d
    @DavidFisk-q8d 5 місяців тому +1

    Jinx or is there a subject for discussion, ie the real value to average drivers and cars of low profile tyres and rims. Cheers

  • @RodMatheson
    @RodMatheson 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey Ped. It does look a good car, but like you say, the mass production of these are all mostly the same. If there is no brand badge you wouldn't know what you were driving. It's a real shame you've lost time with it due to our horrendous roads that have just been neglected. Gone are the days of a quick wheel/tyre change. We had a Citroen C5X hire car last week in Poland and I love it. French cars always get a bad wrap from years ago, but the C5X really impressed me. Big, safe car with a massive boot, solid build quality and overall amazing car. ICE for me is the only way at the moment until we are forced away from them.

  • @willayling2379
    @willayling2379 5 місяців тому +8

    Hi Pete, great video as always! Just one thing, could you for the EV reviews give your average mi/kwh.
    Then, that allows us to extrapolate with the usable battery capacity to get a true range figure.
    The old guess-o-meters aren't exactly trustworthy...

  • @geoffchaplin2123
    @geoffchaplin2123 5 місяців тому

    Great car, just got to get efficient enough to produce for sub 20k. Once the tesla 2 contest to market it will shock and force legacy manufacturers to get real and compete. it’s coming, and if they don’t Tesla will sell 2m a year and put some out of business.

  • @BreconMountainRailwayLtd
    @BreconMountainRailwayLtd 5 місяців тому +1

    Seen an estate last week which looked ok, but i'm still thinking Astra = a little boring. Brig back the GTE!

  • @pashton76
    @pashton76 5 місяців тому +1

    Incredibly close to the far superior Tesla model 3… you just wouldn’t get the Vauxhall