Big Or Smaller Boat, What Should We Choose? - Ep. 175:2 RAN Sailing
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- A road trip to the island of Orust! This is the epicenter for yacht building in Sweden and we take a look at two very different boats, a Forgus 52 and a Najad 391. This is part 2!
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We are a Swedish couple who wanted a different kind of life. So we moved aboard our sailboat Ran, a custom built Beason 40 in aluminium and untied the lines in the middle of the Swedish winter in January 2016. There is no set route and we will go where the wind and our minds take us.
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Malin & Johan
85,000 subscribers, lets each give these kids $10, which is nothing to us, everything to them. They buy the boat of their dreams and they continue inspiring us along the way?? Sounds so simple. I'll start by visiting their patreon account.
Let's do it!
The same boat, same condition, same price, only in 15 meters---- perfect. Be patient, she’s out there waiting on you to discover her. All the best. You two make “ the best “ couple I’ve seen in years. I’m sure your baby will be gorgeous. 👍
Both boats are beautiful, but neither seemed practical for your needs.
Thank you for letting us vicariously boat shop with you! I can’t wait for the next episode!
The 39 footer has my vote. The shape it is in might be more cost saving then getting a cheaper one would be. The "board meeting" is another great presentation of how we should be as married couples. Looking forward to viewing others and the final decision.
One thing for sure, you have to love the Swedish craftsmanship. The Najad owner is fanatical in keeping his boat like new.
Did anyone else see that Johan was rooting for a fixer upper.. he loves to make it his own😁
Greetings from Seattle. I agree 100% with your findings even before watching the end. IMO something in-between those two size wise (42'-48'). The 39' had beautiful finish work and attention to detail but agree, too small for what your plans are. Be patient, keep looking, you will find the right one, you have some time with the baby coming & all that comes with it. When it's the right one, you will know the feeling. Exciting times ahead, the baby will provide you will more happiness than you can ever imagine. Good hunting!
The Najad 391 is my dream boat. If I were there, I'd buy it in a New York minute.
Consider to look for boats in Greece, there they are much cheaper than in the north and you get the same brands. there are stored thousands of boats just on the ionian side, I think about 10% are available.
Thank you for sharing this, I enjoyed it a LOT! S/Y Malin is a beautiful and truly fantastic boat and the owners gem. I would know, he named it after his daughter which is me. :)
Haha! That’s so cool! 😂 It’s a small world. Very nice boat indeed and name 😉. Cheers!
Sweet! And it is a beautiful boat.
That is so cool, she is a fantastic boat!
My favorite was the Najad. I love hearing the Swedish being spoken. Thanks for the subtitles. :)
It was fun to hear you work through a difference of opinion on the importance of condition. Great video.
Jag tycker om de talar svenska :-) .. somevenglish terms I have to translate as well .. upholstery .. Klädsel .. bekleding. Förlåt.
Bigger boats = Bigger expenses :)
One should go for a small as possible boat that is big Enough (sailing comfort and living comfort).
Boats are the the perfect concept that displays compromise :)
If it was me... I would choose this Najad 391 if we had the money. Such a beautifull boat, and what a condition ! (for a 20 year old), and spacious for the size.
In search for something bigger... You might also want to check out the older Trintella 44 (if you can live with an older boat = more work and expenses in maintenence/restoration)
Or the Hallberg Rassy 42 (i personally think the 42E is more pretty than the 42F, even though the Freers model is known to be faster and more modern) 42F is Maybe a better purchase, even though the price is higher.
We are looking at 35-38 foot(max) but we are newbies (we look at the HR Rasmus 35 or the more expensive 352) And we are 3 (two plus a little babygirl)
Good luck to all 3 of you.
13:58 "Najad 441 would have been perfect" congrats Malin & Johan on finding Ran 2~!! =D so happy for you guys
I am not a sailor but I am thinking go bigger as when your baby gets bigger and more mobile you will need so much more space than you can imagine at this stage. The stuff you need for little ones is vast. Why sell your old boat for one similar in size? You would have been better keeping Ran surely. Hoping you find the perfect home soon so you can be settled once your baby arrives. I am thoroughly enjoying seeing the boats, I love seeing the different layouts. Thanks for bringing us along. Xx
I would buy the 39' Najd .Easy to keep an eye on baby .The baby would feel more comfortable on this yacht .Offer him 130 k as is .You got nothing to lose but this is you're boat .SY Milan name says it all.Baby would say cool Mum.She looks like an awesome sailing Yacht.Marina bills 1/2.If you need to dock .Wise men buy yachts not build them.
I had a 55 ft boat with teak decks purchased new back in 1985. If I were buying again I would try to avoid teak decks, maybe just the cockpit. They look beautiful and feel great underfoot but require a lot of cleaning and elbow grease to keep them looking clean. After trying many different solutions to keep them clean I eventually came to the conclusion you could not go wrong with plain old Tide soap. I would also avoid any on deck wood varnishes. There are always more than enough other maintenance chores to keep up with without adding on deck teak and varnish. Just my two cents on my preferences and wishing I was still young enough to be contending with these decisions again myself. Really enjoy your videos and by far one of my favorites.
Mooi dat overleg, gesprek, en jullie overwegingen. Thx. for sharing: your talk, and considering moments afterwards.
This is great. Really interested in learning more about the lineup of affordable Swedish yachts.
The split bed, nope.
I do watch sailing videos since many years. From all the interiors i have seen, the layout of SV Delos seems to be the best, also the cockpit.
I agree, but those are like hens teeth to find... Now if you had upward of 600K to play with you can definitely find one...
Good conditions Super Maramu from the nineneties can be found for less than 200 000€, slightly over their budget! But they are the safest boats, with the steering well protected.
Amel Super Maramu, perfect!
I'd go for an up to 50-foot wooden boat - nothing larger. A yacht has no soul if it's not wood. Besides aesthetics, there are many advantages to wood. It's durability for one.
Definitely a cutter. Winching in two smaller sails is easier than handling one big sail. A Marconi rig as it's better for sailing on the wind. I'm in two minds about a ketch or sloop. A ketch allows more sail and more combinations going downwind.
I liked the idea of having a steering station out of the weather.
Consider lithium batteries; they allow you to install every safety device, including a radar, you'll ever need.
And I agree with Malin. Many boats are gloomy below deck. Brown varnished wood is used apparently to make the craft look more authentic. Lighten it up. Paint the bulkheads and cabin ceilings white. Carpet the sole, especially when you're sailing up North and install a heater.
A workbench for Johan would be a boon as would a more spacious engine compartment.
Good luck!
I understand your pride in Sweden's ship building history and I agree you should be proud. However, have you considered an Amel. Wonderful access for maintenance and fairly well protected sailing position. The watertight compartments might come in handy also.
Amel’s are pricey and they hold their value
Interior layout not the best out there..
There are other boats that don't resemble busses..
Sorry..
I don't envy you during your boat hunt. No boat is perfect and the options are endless. It can drive you bonkers is you let it. I am looking forward to the next boat you check out. Good Luck!
Some years ago in Scotland we chartered a Jeanneau Trinidad 48. In all the years and all the boats we’ve chartered all over the place since, I’ve rarely seen better boats. We loved the large pilothouse saloon with the galley up at that level also and three cabins with a fourth adequate for kids or crew. Cutter rigged, it sailed like a dream, especially upwind. Occasionally on the market, usually for €100’000 or less. The only thing that would stack up would be a similarly sized centre cockpit boat with a galley in one of the tunnels beside the underside of the cockpit.
Najad was in awesome condition! Great boat at a great price!
I think both had there pro's & con's, but as you both agreed to, to small. It is so nice to watch 2 people, that work as one, you can see the love & the soul mates you are.
Cheers Swany
I agree with most commenters, the najad is the better boat.
But also a few feet more will make all the difference for you as liveaboards
I enjoy jou vids hugely, greets and good luck!
So many cool things for you two to think about and plan for. From what the two of you have shown us, your child will be starting boat projects, climbing the mast, planning passages and delighting in Nature in just a few short years. One other very important thing: someone very close to you will probably give the baby a very noisy toy, or some music that is cute at first but you will want to throw overboard when you hear it the 1,001st time. A bigger boat helps with this.
It’s all about personal preference, for me room and comfort as a full time live-a-board with a child would over rule the cost of maintaining a bigger boat. Personally I didn’t like nether one of those. Another great episode guys, looking forward the next!
I appreciate the maturity of your conversation and the discernment process generally. It is clear that the choice process is complex given the many factors at play. Such a relaxed and ultimately humble and sincere presentation. A most interesting process. Thank you for sharing it so openly.
The Najad is very well built and is in such good shape to just too small for a family. The boat I like best so far was Deerfoot, but at 68 feet she will be a problem getting into some marinas. And of course, the cost of docking and hull maintenance is going to be substantial. One boat I think you might want to look at is an SC52. Well these were very expensive boats when new there are some available and well maybe just over your price range, they would take good care of you. Well they are not heavy they are extremely well built and fast and easy to sail. No one should ever underestimate speed as a safety factor. Plus if you buy one maybe you can come back to the US West Coast and spend a bit more time here. I know a lot of your West Coast fan would enjoy meeting you.
I fell in love by first look at the forgus 52, well, needs little bit nodernising.
The Najad 441 would be perfect .... fast forward a few episodes and whoa - look what we have here! Thanks!
Hello Malin & Johan
Questions you could answer for yourselves are what you want and what would be nice to have. Make a list/lists.
1. Cruising costs, how much to get from on place to another, Marina services/abilities, price structure for going across Panama canal and routine PM/maintenance costs. From What I understand Panama canal is big difference in sizes (LxW) and weight. Ask for Insurance quotes to see where you stand before buying.
2. How long do you want to own the boat?
Forever
For future family of 4 or 5, what do you think you want for family size or paying guests and family visits.
Place to install gambrel type crib or baby hammock.
3. What activities you want to do from the boat while cruising or at anchor.
4. What kind of amenities refrigerator/freezer, hvac, storage, work area/space, galley area convenience and dinghy/paddle boards.
5. water-maker and tanks, how long can you sail or want to sail before having to make a stop.
6. How modern are the electronics/communications and easy of single hand sailing.
7. Power plant drive commonality, ease of getting parts and service world-wide, reliability reports. Generator same as above.
8. anchors, rigging, ropes sails (all these cost cash out pf pocket if not already there)
9. sailing area set-up for manned/womened use.
10. Cost of a complete survey.
11. Take shopping list with you.
Just some ideas, think of it like house shopping, which usually take 2-6 months before finding something. Talk to other owners about how they like their boat when you have your final choices. Don't let broker's pressure you all and get some of their reference of buying experiences.
JAM Good Luck
Timing is everything! You will find that perfect vessel!!
Just keep on looking, you WILL find the right boat for you. Your experience has taught you a lot and you will know when it is the right one. Around 45 to 50 would be nice, with a good beam but, FAST. You have time on your side ...... waiting for your NEW CREW MEMBER..... Good luck with your hunt for a new boat and especially with the BABY !!!!Greetings from SV Warlord,( Panda 40, Black hull,) Bonnie and Wilf, Powell River, British Columbia, Canada
I spent most of five years cruising, mostly Central America and the Caribbean. I'd suggest you consider whether the boat you have could be handled by the minimum number of people you reliably will have onboard. I picked a 30' cruiser rather than a larger boat because my initial sailing experience was on a 65' boat (built in 1928 for the King of Denmark) and it took a crew of seven to race it. It took three people to get a headsail out of the cabin and on the foredeck. I knew that I was likely to be solo often and wanted to make sure I could handle the boat under bad conditions.
While cruising I made friends with a couple on a 50 foot boat and a couple with a 54' boat. Both couples needed extra crew when doing a passage. That meant leaning on family and friends to take time out from their lives, travel to the boat, and then make a big jump. Or hiring crew which is not necessarily easy or enjoyable.
What I saw a lot of in the Sea of Cortez was couples on 40' boats who seldom hung a sail but would motor from place to place, especially if it wasn't a run.
Perhaps roller reefing is better than it was when I was cruising but back then one saw a fair number of destroyed jibs after a big blow. The couple on the 50' boat I knew did the Tehuantepec Gulf passage, had their roller reefing snag, and came close to losing their boat. Just a thought....
hello Ran. I am french and excuse me for my english. I have travel with my family during 2 years and live in board during 6 years. I think that you must choice a new boat whit 3 cabins. 1 for you, 1 for your baby, and 1 for your family or friends. my boat 41 feet. and in board: my wife and 2 children. 3 cabins. but I think, the best is 45 feet. I said no for forgus52 and naiad 391. thank you for your videos.
That was a good conversation about the boats. Malin knows what she wants, and, she will get it. Just don't rush into a hurried decision. With the baby on it's way, you will have time to continue shopping around.before you're ready to set sail again. Good luck.
The Najd was hands down the winner. The other boat was way too claustrophobic.
I have my self a Najad, very happy with my boat, can recommend!
So impressed with how thorough you are. The first boat was really cramped. Especially the galley.
I wonder whether you've anchored (no pun intended, really) on the larger boats since Ran was longer and you've been looking at boats upward of 50 feet. I really liked the Najad (Malin.) Maintenance and marina costs would be so much lower than for some of the other boats you've looked at. Good luck. I can't wait to see where this goes...
It's really impressive to see how much more attention to detail there is in the Swedish built boats. The joinery and woodwork was stunning in both boats. I understand clearly now why you've directed your search there. Keep at it! Best of luck...
For the new boat: if you liked the najad you should also look at the designs by van de Stadt and Koopmans. For example the van de stadt 44 design with the center cockpit or the Koopmans 46. Maybe not all the glamour and beauty of the Najad but designed with emphasis on seaworthiness and pracrticality
It had malins name all over it. You should of made her sit in the car 🤭. Looks like a nice clean boat. Maybe you should just have a look at a brand new boat just for reference. The 52' seemed amazing except for the below deck layout. I'm with you spacious and roomy. Maybe you can track down a sister ship with better quarters. Don't settle for nothing less than your heart's desire. 👍💕
We recently bought Najad 391 Intrepid Bear (search on UA-cam for her sales video) We love her, slightly different aft cabin than the one you looked at. One fabulous feature is that I can get a great view from my bunk due to the hull portlights. I understand you probably want to go a little bigger but if you’d like to sail a Najad you’d be welcome to pop across to the U.K. to sail with us. Good luck in your search.....
We looked at Intrepid Bear, sitting beside a Najad 400. We went for the 400. The slight increase in length makes a huge different... probably addressing RAN's issue with the bed in the back. I.e. The 400's can take one big mattress and one small. Also, there's a space ahead of the bed allowing you infill the little cut-out between the beds.... one giant bed!!
A big pro for us...We sailed a lot of aft cockpit wide and narrow transoms. The CC Najad is a world of difference in sea-kindlyness.
Another plus with a Najad of the right age.... The deck is foam (not balsa) cored. It doesn't swell when it gets wet.... so if Johan can turn his hand to a bit of teakolgy you can get an absolute bargain.
That's what a proper couple does!
The right boat will appear moments from now... All 3 of you will love it
Not an easy choice, I hope you are under no pressure to commit and are able to give yourself the time to search. You know it will come. Thinking of you chaps, good luck.
Keep looking and be happy. Your boat is closer than you think. When you see it you will know very quickly.
Even though I couldn't understand you, it was lovely hearing you speek in your language it has a beautiful song to it 😊
Look int a southerly 49 or even one of the 480’s. They have retractable keels and they seem to fit your style of cruising quite well. The southerly’s also have an enclosed cockpit if you want.
Beautiful boat, the NAJAD 391
Hi guys we have just bought our 2nd yacht this year and we did look at 2 Najad 390s. Love the quality but ultimately felt there wasn’t enough light below and with a heads and separate shower they just eat up to much internal space leaving it felling to us cramped below. We ended up buy a Finngulf 391. It’s perfect for us very fast but blue water capable excellent Finish build quality two large berths and one heads means saloon feels very large and has much more light. Not many Finngulfs in U.K. but where you are looking could be a few about.
Thanks for sharing your boat hunting!
My opinions - 1)time is on your side, look at MANY, and don't feel rushed or sign up to something that you already KNOW there are significant things that are not right for you;
2)"smaller is better" because although the feeling of bigger and more room is nice when boat hunting, all of this needs A LOT MORE time, effort and $$$'s to run, maintain, extra fee's for length, etc, etc. which will all come home to roost especially in the harshness of sea life.
This is, of course, if your plans will STILL be to continue your global sailing adventures,.... which you may find change significantly once you have a young mum and baby onboard.
All the very best with your decisions and the birth of your baby! 🙂🥂
You could buy the 35 footer and when baby no.1 grows a bit or baby no. 2 comes along trade up to the 42 or 44 footer you mentioned. The downside is changing boats is always disruptive. Keep looking, the right boat will come along.
If it had to be one of these two, I vote for the Najad 391 for sure. Interior volume is not only a function of length but beam and fullness of hull shape as you surely know. I just looked at a Bianca Aphrodite 101 at 33' which had far less interior space than my previous Olson 30, so there you go. Best wishes for the baby and finding your next boat!
Might I suggest looking for an Island Packet 420 or 440. Well designed and built boats. Fair winds.
I liked the 39...but yes...you need to be able to grow in it. Of course families go around on much smaller boats...buts time for you to go bigger. But maybe something 44 or 46 will be big enough. Enjoy the search! -Rebecca
Longer cockpit seat are a must as you do spend a lot of time in the cockpit, well I do anyway on a long passage. Galley designed so you don't get tossed all over the place. An open floor plan. A workable owner's stateroom that will be good for the little one, she will need a secure bed with you guys.
Something between 44 and 54 feet.
You will find the right boat. Keep talking about it and describing what you want. Keep looking. It is yours already. 😊👍⛵️⚓️
Yes, the 39 footer had the better layout. We have a 45 ft Southerly which we bought specifically for its swing keel for canal boating. However it has the split level thing which I am now seeing as part of my exercise regime. One thing that bugs me is that 20 year old boat designs seem to have narrow passageways, and looking at ours, unnecessarily narrow as I can see how to widen them all for more comfort. And yes the split aft bunk was my reservation. You two are still in the pre snoring, snuggling together phase of life so a good bed is important.
Najad is a very good choice! We are so satisfied with our 405! Good Luck with the boat hunt!
We just went through the same sort of search on our trip from Canada to the Bahamas and back again. We realized early on that our 32 footer was too small. We settled on a Bristol 41.1. I would encourage you to have a look at these boats. At 41, 43 and 47 feet there will be a size and layout to suit you. We did look at Swedish built boats like Najad and Hallberg Rassy. We decided not to pursue these boats because the headroom was too low in all the ones we viewed. The Bristols have very good headroom throughout and all have the flexibility of a centerboard. You can see the boat we bought on our UA-cam channel. Whatever you decide on, remember that the search is the fun part. We hope you enjoy your journey. Chris and Debbie.
Like youve said theres alot of boat builders and places to see there. Dont be in a hurry take your time and find the boat thats just right for your family. I liked the Malin it just seemed the most comfy so far. Y'all be safe
That Najad is listed on yachtworld. She looks very fine. I must say, Najad has always struck me as having a lovely interior. They are quite expensive though these days, especially the newer ones.
Love the name - indeed definitely a “sign”, love the engine room. So well looked after and great condition . Must be tempting even only at 39’ but early days in your search.
The Najad was a beauty as opposed to the Forgus. And note that there were moisture in the deck regardless of if the teak-deck was screwed or not. That is also my experience, I think the blaming of the screws is a myth, the moisture damages seems to be in the same areas regardless if there´s a teak deck and regardless if it´s screwed or not
You are correct, what a change in layout and design can make comparing two boats or houses given the same space. But the Najad was a beautiful boat a very nice condition........Good luck!!!!
Have you thought about an OVNI? A 455 might be a good boat for you and if you can find an early one, it could be within your budget. 15.2m LOA. Aluminium hull with lifting keel. They are built for long range, off shore cruising, so would suit your type of sailing. Very strong construction and massive tanks, although many also have water makers. Down below, the woodwork may not be quite up to the standard of a Najad or H-R, but will be very much better than what you will find on any plastic production yacht. We looked at a Najad 37 before buying our OVNI 365 and have not regretted our choice. The Najad was a lovely boat, and in comparison, our OVNI looks almost utilitarian. But it is an excellent sea boat and very practical and safe. It is also very versatile. We can get into shallow bays and rivers that would have been inaccessible in a boat with a deeper fixed keel.
Have really enjoyed following your adventures. Good luck with the search!
Najad should sponsor you with the new 395, that boat has everything. A 50/50 deal has got to be worth a portion of their marketing budget!
Great time of year to be shopping. Good luck you guys !
I was watching an interview of a yacht broker by another youtuber and he had some really interesting info.
One of the things he mentioned is that on the East Coast of the USA and in the Caribbean, the best time to look is in the Spring, believe it or not. The reason is because that's when the sailing season starts to wind down. Everyone has to have their boat out of the Caribbean before hurricane season starts in June or July (for insurance purposes) and many boats go on the market at that time because of it. Combine that with the fact that there aren't many buyers, because the sailing season is almost over and you get a buyer's market. That's not gonna be the same for the Baltic, of course. I'm sure the sailing seasons correspond more with warm weather in the Baltic, than it does in the Caribbean.
I like your videos. It's fun when you speak Swedish and have text translations. Have you considered Alubat Ovni? With the lifting centerboard up, you can float in .58 meters of water. New ones in the 42 foot range are $230,000 USD, 2008 or newer, $190,000 and up, but one from the 1990's can be $ 120,000 to $150.000. Good luck on finding the best boat for your family.
Check Bavaria. Lots of space for a good price. And nearly new. Ok. It’s not a Swedish boat, but it is much better than people say :)
Ralf Baars Yes would be nice if Johan/Malin could comment on this. There are the Cruiser range 44, 47, 50 wich offers a lot of boat for the mony. at 150K$ there will be mony over for a Emmaljunga de lux even after some extra mony spent on new apolstery etc.
Or whar about the Bavaria Ocean range. 44, 47 or the 50 ones, theres a sturdy boat not long after the orust builds.
What do RAN sailing think of this?
This boat was exceptional, but still not the one,... it's out there, and I am confident you will find it. As usual, another quality episode, thank you.
Boat shopping is a lot like car shopping. It depends on the one you fall in love with more than anything. The newer ones have all the comforts but along with them comes a heavy price tag like the Nordship or Amel . If you go older then with less comfort comes cheaper pricing like Hans Christian or Halberg. They are all gorgeous to someone. My advice is go for what you want then figure out how to afford it or you will never be quite happy with a second choice.
I like the second one better....I love these videos, it gives us different ideas on what we can look for. I don’t have any sailing experience so I’m going to probably start out with something a little smaller, I found a 31’ here in Florida at a very good price I think would be ideal for me to learn on and not have a huge overhead maintenance fee. Anyhow, I enjoy watching your videos and look forward to seeing more. Stay safe and may the winds forever be in your favor.
The Najd 391 is a beautiful boat, my favourite of the two. :)
The 3 you've shown are all impressive. If I was to pick a favorite, #2, so far. Can't wait to see what you uncover in your search.
In the classic boats (prior 1970) the space inside: saloon, galley and corridors, was very narrow even in very big boats. There is a specific reason for that (or we should say there was...) the boats were meant to be used with every kind of weather. When the boat is rolling heavily during a gale, to have a spacious saloon or corridor means you are slammed against the walls or fornitures, etc. and this can hurt you seriously. (I've met a person who hurted himself seriously during a strom in a Jeanneau 54 while being in its large saloon). And specially the galley was required to be narrow so that you could cook leaning with your body against the wall behind you and so being secure even with heavy rolling.
Today the trend is very different: people want large galleys and saloons like in a house, mainly because those people spend most of their time in the marinas... (:-)
Just a thought. If you are going to grow into this next boat you may want to consider a 3 cabin 2 head layout with one room being a bunk and the owner cabin needs to be nice. Trust me as a father of 4 you will want a nice "master cabin."
I’m not a boat person but I love watching sailing channels. I’ve just heard that catamarans have a much flatter, smoother sail without the tilt. They might have a wider, more open living space & kitchen that you’re looking for, too. Also, 45+ feet make the catamaran less choppy on the water. Maybe they are a much more expensive boat though?
I like the Najad much more open than the Forgus. Cant wait for you to hopefully look at The Hallberg Rassy. One other boat comes to mind and its a well made boat. Its the Rustler 42 made in the Uk in Falmouth. Im sure there are used ones out there. Its got the pedigree of a Hallberg rassy but its more affordable. Good luck!
Wow, you two are really doing it right. Maybe you could consider talking to a few cruising couples who have raised a baby, a toddler, and a maybe a teen on board. A boat has to fit the lifestyle more than a place on a plot.
That Deerfoot was the best. Just imagine the mileage you could do. There would be days of being just cracked off the wind pounding along pushing double digits. Reckon there would regularly be 200 mile days. I think DP designed Baltic Yachts for a while. Perhaps not quite as powerful as that Deerfoot, some of them had great master cabins for liveaboards and I bet they go well too.
Search to find one in New Zealand. Many sailors cross the Pacific and sell their boat afterwatds in New Zealand. A ready boat for the ocean crossings. And in this way you can already begin your new adventures in the Pacific
Congratulations on starting your family; it’s a wonderful journey.
Everyone underestimates the efforts and hands-on responsibilities that are over the horizon for you as parents to a newborn.
Your instincts that you will need more social area space are spot-on. Perhaps other parents will offer their views on the advisability of actually having direct hands-on parenting experience before you purchase your next boat.
By matching your sailing experience with direct parenting experience, your formula for what you’ll want for your next boat might change.
A catamaran is a social area platform atop 2 hulls. This might work for you better than a monohull for the first few years; you wouldn’t be the first parents to compromise in order to raise their family.
You might want to look into how this is working for another famous sailing channel who are raising their family on UA-cam before you make a major financial commitment.
I wish you all the best. Thank you for bringing us along with you.
Great videos.
I like the dark interior. Ive lived in Southern California for 35 years. Sun all the time. No escape. Same as a boat at sea. I want the sun outside, not inside my living space.
Good vid, this is David the traveling nurse. we met in Alaska.
Was wondering when the due date is for the baby. Would love to see you back this way again some day and spend a little more time.
Cheers,
When your ready the right boat will find you.
All these boats look great...
if you love the look of wood everywhere...
In rough seas I tend to get queasy in anything under a 42 ft. waterline and 45,000 lb. displacement. I also don't like to feel closed in by small spaces, so I usually only look at sailboat lengths between 45' to 54' and with displacements between 45,000 to 54,000 lb. and beams no less than 14 ft. I despise any wood on deck 'cause it makes me into its slave and I also despise wet heads....they must have a separate shower, with a tub as a bonus. I hope you two find your perfect sailing home!
For what it's worth, I'm really enjoying coming along on this boat shopping journey with you! Thanks for sharing.
Hi Guys,If I were you, I'd look into the SHANNON 50. Build quality is as good as it gets, and you should find one in your price range. Only possibe issue I see is that you seem to gravitate towards a center cockpit arrangement. Best luck!
I liked the first of the two with the two living spaces. You could change that second living space and open it up. As for the amount of rooms combine two of them. That kitchen area is very typical for a boat that size. Your going have some more give and take. You say you don’t want to change anything that means you think your going to find a boat that’s going to perfect. I wonder other than designing your boat from scratch if that’s realistic. I’m not trying to argue just a view from my seat. Those two different size beds you speak of are very typical of a crew cabin, first come first serve.
I love Hallberg Rassy boats, for me the best cruising boat on the market.
Exactly!
I prefer the 39'er but would prefer an encapsulated keel and fully skegged rudder. Both boat were beautiful. I am leaning towards a Gulfstar or a Tayana
I was impressed with the Swan 60 a couple seasons ago. You guys showed a shot going to weather at 10 knots when Marlin injured her toe. So far that boat is my favorite ☺️. I know Jonah has seen some weather so when he commented about the smooth and quiet ride I was impressed and looked up the boat. All the best on your search!
As I am typing this you have already bought RAN II but as you were talking about the boat you needed it came to me you were talking about a catamaran. The boat you did buy appears to be a great choice. I don't remember you considering a catamaran. It just seemed odd that you were describing a cat. Thanks for all you 2 are doing to share your videos.
I’m really enjoying going boat shopping with you! I liked s/y Malin the best but agree that she isn’t quite right for your needs. Still, finding out that you could possibly find a boat about Ryan’s size but with a better layout is encouraging. Every extra foot makes itself known when docking and hauling out, doesn’t it? Looking forward to the next video!
Brady, you are totally awesome. This Atlantic Round Robbin voyage is going to change your new guests/crew a lot. It is going to be fun to watch you change a bit too, eh?