F 16 vs MiG 29 - Which would win?
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F-16 vs MiG 29 - Which would win?
F-16 and MiG-29 were designed in order to achieve different goals. F-16 was designed to be a cost effective, light multirole jet that could be a support to more superior F-15 Eagle. Whereas, the MiG-29 is a typical air-superiority fighter jet. For MiG-29 designers range and avionics were not as crucial as powerful engines, high altitude flights, rate of climb, speed and the ability to take off from really shabby runways. We thought it would be interesting to compare these two legendary fighter jets, and determine which would most likely win in a hypothetical dogfight in this video.
1. Specifications
Let’s have a look at some specs first.
F-16 was first introduced in 1978. 4,600 F-16's have been built so far with per unit cost of $ 35 m. Operated by crew of 1 the Aircraft’s empty weight is 18,900 lb, and maximum take-off weight is 42,300 pounds. The jet is powered by a single engine producing 28,600 pounds of thrust. With maximum range of 2,620 miles, the aircraft can gain top speed of 1,320 mph. The fighter jet comes with 9 Hardpoints in addition to a 20 mm rotary cannon. The combat radius of the aircraft is 340 miles.
On the other hand, MIG 29 was first rolled out in 1982. Around 1600 MIG 29s are being operated by Air Force and other countries. At present per-unit cost of the latest variant is around $23.7M. Operated by a crew of 1, the aircraft comes in at weight of 24,250 lb with maximum take-off weight around 44,100 pounds. The Jet is powered by 2 turbofan engines generating 36,684 pounds of thrust combined. With maximum range of 888 miles, the jet can reach at top speed of 1,490 mph. The fighter jet is fitted with 7 Hardpoints in addition to a 30 mm cannon. The combat radius of the aircraft is 441 miles.
2. Maneuverability
The most important factor in deciding a dogfight is maneuverability; the maximum rate and radius of turn. To maximize its maneuverability F-16 was intentionally designed to be aerodynamically unstable…
In contrast, MiG-29 has superior turning rates and super maneuverability. This was achieved with advanced aerodynamics. The tail of MiG-29 is positioned to take advantage of the four vortices by the wing and fuselage….
3. Power & Speed
F16 is powered by single General Electric F110-GE-129 turbofans engine, which produces 28,600 pounds of thrust. The aircraft can fly at top speed of Mach 2…
On the other hand, a major driver of the MiG 29 performance is its 2 afterburning turbofan engines generating around 36,684 pounds of thrust….
4. Radar & Avionics
F-16 is equipped with latest APG-68 radar which enables all-weather targeting with high resolution detection and imaging. The latest variant is fitted with glass cockpit, upgraded mission computer…
Whereas, MIG 29 is equipped with latest radar which is equivalent of F 16s APG-68 with similar range and air-to-ground modes. All variants of MiG-29 included an optical locator system mounted on top of the nose…
5. Firepower
The F-16 has 9 hard points and can be armed with a range of air-to-air missiles, including Aim-9 Side winder, Magic II, aim-7, Sky Flash and aim-120. The high off bore sight, infrared Air to air missiles such as aim-9X, Python IV, aim-132 and IRIS-T can also be fitted. The aircraft also supports the integration a range of AGM anti-ship missiles and AGM-65 Maverick air-to-ground tactical missile…
On the other hand, The MiG-29 fighter is equipped with seven external weapon hardpoints. The aircraft can carry up to 2 R-27 air-to-air medium-range missiles, 6 R-73 and R-60 air-to-air short range missiles, 4 pods of S-5, S-8, S-24..
Conclusion
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Poland: *just chilling with both*
Lol, we too from Egypt
Romania too
Me too in Poland
Oh no, they're attacking again...
Irongaming RO not yet, Romania didn’t decide yet wether they’ll be purchasing the F-16 or the Saab-jas39 gripen NG, and the COVID-19 has put this sale silent! And Romania has the MiG-21bis, not the MiG-29! Greetings from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦😁✋
The pilot having the best day probably wins...
At the end of day, the best pilot will be victorious..
Assume the pilots are equally skilled then. When you compare two or more items the assumption is always that all the other factors are held constant, so this talk of pilot skills doesn't come into play
It depends on pilot mindset and game how he handles and attacks
the Russians have moved it up a notch with Mig35, its a beast!!
@@dataman6744 f16 viper is better than mig35
Both jets are beautiful. I flew the F-16 for 8 years. It comes down to the pilot skill to whichever one wins
I flew f22
I guess the surrounding too: The US has mastered the warfare in a network with other branches, while we witness on the other hand how the Russian branches fail miserably to coordinate their efforts. Also communication and intel is crucial for the success of a mission. A one to one situation, more so a dogfight, has become a rarity in modern aerial warfare.
Lastly things like logistics and maintenance.
I flew the space shuttle
Not joking, but i really flew mig 29.
respect !
Pilot skill plays the most important role in a confrontation.
not really, they will both turn and pull up hard, that's all.
That's beside the point. We're comparing aircraft here, so that assumes pilots of equal skill.
It is my first time to see an unbiased comparison between a Russian and an American war machine. Thank God this page exists.
@@drewt9829 hahahahahaha next joke please
@@drewt9829 how young is too young? Lmao
@@drewt9829 well, you are wrong again. The Americans couldn't put together the disassembled aircraft after belenko defected. After the protest being lodged by the soviets , it's shipped back to USSR in a box. BTW if it's primitive , no americans missiles could take it out ever. Guess you remember the much hyped U2 was taken out by the primitive russians. So please don't make unnecessary comparisons , it gives you embarrassments. Also don't up chuck the blatant lies , it won't make you a winner.
@@drewt9829 ....My oh My! Americans never tried to take the piss outta Russians. Were you absent when there's a history class at school? And if you don't know why , I will enlighten you kid: there's this thing called MAD. The Russians developed the world's most powerful hydrogen bomb ever; the name is 'Tsar Bomba'. They have the most powerful ICBM as well: 'Satan ' , cute name indeed, isn't it? They have the Father of all bombs as well (FOAB). No nuclear submarine was ever built anywhere on planet earth other than Soviet Union : 'Akula'. The soviets invented laser and are way too advanced than the flaunting yanks in laser weapon technology. Kiddo, this is a minimum text area for me to educate if I go for every other modern marvels originated in the Soviet Union by the primitive Russians.
Better you understand that, there will be no advanced US of A if they dare to mess with the primitive Russians. Needless to say, Russia will cease to exist as well.
Bottom line: Don't ever think that you are on the top of the pyramid and better than the others. You're just as unique as everyone else.
Drew T yes, and in rocket technics are the russian 10 years more modern then the us rockets..! The us Airplanes are really in deferent things better, but the russian air defense ist also many ways better then the us..! If we look the tanks, there are the Russian T14 better than the Abrams..! So both sides have things where they are better and bader..! 😀 i hope they never Fight together, because the whole Planet we can Smoke after this war..! 😅
Unbiased professional analysis ever
lol you got an heart haha
When Germany was unified, the West German pilots with their Tornados and the East German pilots with their Mig-29s performed joined exercises and mock dogfights. The East German pilots were claiming that they had scored more kills. The West German wouldn't accept these claims. As it turned out to be, the Mig-29 was armed with the short range R-73 Archer short range missile which could kill at a 40 degree angle. This missile had thrust vectoring capabilities. The Germans dissected this missile and later came up with the IRIS-T missile. The point of the story is, that the strength of the platform depends on the strength of the weapons.
Strength and range.
Yes, radar and missile platforms are very important. But the Tornado is a cold war era long range interceptor designed to catch and kill incoming bombers. It makes a terrible air superiority fighter since that isn't what it is. The Tornado is more like a slower MiG-25 Foxbat. Even if it had the best state of the art radar and missile systems it would still get waxed in a close fight if the pilots are remotely similar in skill which is what you are describing. The Tornado obviously has a chance if it has superior radar and better BVR missile systems since it then wouldn't likely come to a close engagement.
great answer!
@@flipadavis the problem is that it wasn't just west Germans that experienced this. The Americans trained in Germany regularly due to Germany having MiG-29s. And the east German MiG-29 pilots regularly won against F-16 and F-18s
@@skparadise3382 Erzähl deine Märchen vielleicht in Sachsen aber nicht hier, wer schon ein Hakenkreuz als Avatar hat und eine russische Flagge als Hintergrund, den kann man nur als geistig verwirrt bezeichnen: In english: Tell your fairy tales maybe in Saxony but not here, who already has a swastika as avatar and a Russian flag as background, you can only be considered mentally retarded
Nice video and excellent analysis host, it is not a one sided and fair enough in my own point of view, i am really thankful that i found this wonderful channel, thank you for sharing and more power.
Much appreciated!
The only way to know who is better is a paintball fight, so no one gets hurt.
First video
Two beautiful fighters👍
yes
Funny coming here just as Poland will handle their MIG29 to Ukraine so that they will receive F16's in exchange.
Cancelled now
@@vulturedroid9804 they are now US property and poles got F16's in exchange. But US doesn't want to give the Mig's to Ukraine.
@@vulturedroid9804 wrong lol
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F-16s have Link 16. That's a huge advantage.
I personally think these two planes are the most equal west vs east matchup possible. It will depend on the pilot skills, situation and tactical usage of the plane that will decide the outcome. The Polish airforce has had the posibillity to test them against each other and they stated that when the pilots where equally good in a dogfight the Mig29 wins. But at long distance engagements they had the better options available on the F-16. But that's a no-brainer since Poland has left the Poland/Russia weapons deal and no longer receives the best and latest options.
Best radar and rockets
But the F-16 and Mig-29 is multi-role, so in hitting grounds targets I would they the F-16 is better.
@@alastair9446 I hate to be wrong. But I guess I am wrong here. And you are right. So yeah indeed the F16 would be better at attacking ground targets indeed. So all-round the F16 would win as you say. 🙂
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Dogfights are not that common in real life I would gather. It would probably be other factors that are much more important.
The person that will win would be the guy staying in a bunker
@John James yup
This comment aged like a small dog growing into the best lap warmer
But will he ready win?
Wtf is happening
@Sal why ?
While I don't want to actually say one of them is the better jet....
I like the look of the Mig 29 more, it just screams "I'm dangerous".
But f16 looks sleek n sexier 😁
@@dinpuiapuia2285 let's agree to disagree
The intro song is the perfect balance of epic and campy, love it
The pilot who drank the least would probably win
And trained the most.
Little did you know a shot of vodka makes a slav better in everything.
@@wdaswwqads That reminds me of Jackie Chan: Drunken master
Very good vodka+✈=💥=👌now i can have a 🍺or🍺🍺😅.
The pilot that's not overweight would probably win
Both are formidable aircraft. I agree with a lot of the other comments. Which is the better of the two pilots probably wins!
Just saw interview a USAF pilot who has 2000 hours the Mig-29 in Germany he said the F-16 can maintain higher speeds in 9G radius turning.
Both machines are technological marvels and each is more than capable. I think the presenter did a great job of reaching his conclusions and I agree.
The fact is that we don’t know the capability of these airplanes - military secrets. So we don’t really which airplane has the edge.
Indeed
@@joemen3332 Well Mig29 has been upgraded a lot
joe men Germany knows everything about Mig 29’s built in the 1980’s - 40 years ago. The systems and capabilities on a modern day Mig 29, upgraded over and over would be vastly different.
yeah they re must be hiding santa in the back of the cockpit seat #"military secrets"
Exactly only the downgraded export 29s have seen combat until the Russian AF cutting edge ones ones V the USAF cutting edge F16s we wont really know
Brilliant Comparison :)
Please put the comparison data side by side. It's a lot easier with the visual than vocal. Thanks.👍🏻🇦🇺😁
Noted!
MIG 29 is a absolute ! I saw take off at Ostrava Nato Days. It was incredible !
yes it is but the F16 wasn't designed to fight it !
@@sterben728 nobody talks about f16 here
@@sterben728 I am not saying the F16 is better. However, a lot of people believe a Mig 29 would easily defeat an F18. I watched a channel on UA-cam called Ready Room. A former US Navy pilot turned consultant uses a Go Pro to video mock dogfights with Royal Malaysian Air Force. He beat a Mig 29 and SU 30 with an F18. He also said he lost some dogfights to those planes. Anyway, that pilot said a Mig 29 was really easy to spot due to its visible exhaust.
The f15 took mig 29 and never lost I'm sure a f16 can do it even better
F16 fires missile 1st = wins
UA-cam warriors never lost so far! They fight to death on UA-cam!
Funny thing is that the fuckers are immortal. Some times they just fade away.
@@mkhan78627 True, irrespective of what the truth is and what the actual scenario is. These people will fight on UA-cam.
The one who hits first.
well you aint wrong tho...
I grew up with these fighter jets. In simulators, if you can squeeze out some AMRAAMs early, F-16 can win. But once you're close, MIG-29 has better turning radius so F-16 has to rely on the Sidewinder's off-bore targeting. That said, the MIG-29's Archer is deadly because of the IRST.
When dogfighting, it's all about pilot skills.
Being able to take off from really shabby runways is an advantage that shouldn't be underestimated.
It all depends on how well the pilot was trained and how much air time he has been able to achieve
or how many intercept a pilot have hahah
Russian pilots on average have a few minutes of airtime while Americana are afew days
It settles it then… F16 FTW
Bangladesh air force having 16 mig 29
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Both are iconic! Just like the spitfire and the messerschmidt
Both are awesome machines! Who would win, well, that will depend on the pilot and luck!
Both fighter Jet's are good. But everything depends on Pilot skill.........simply don't waste your time with arguing each other's. Thank you.
F16 ja much better than mig29! Zur f16 Block 70 is better than mig35
give valentino rossi a tricycle, let see if he can out race me with my yamaha motor bike
Finally someone neutral
@@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 Based on what?
@Oggy what happened bro didnt get enough piss to drink today??
Great video bro! Can you put the power in HP or Watts please? Thanks, love from Spain.
Horsepower and kilowatts are not how you measure thrust. Thrust is normally measured in Kilonewtons, pound-force or kilogram-force. (1 Kn = 102 kg-f = 225 lb-f)
Personally,both are super but the key issue would be the tactical situation,how the fight starts determines the result because determines the initial advantage.Because that changes,the discussion is academical in my humble opinion
@grid do you have a way to mail you or discord server as I've got some questions about jets for a game I'm helping test
it mostly depends on the pilot, but if we look at it objectivelly it really depends:
if we compare these planes we have to compare the original version cause both the mig and f-16 have recieved many upgrades with all the years.
overall the mig has a slight advantage over hte f16 in many areas due to it being a twin enine plane sucha as climb rate speed and load but again the diferences are so small it deeply depends on the pilot more than the plane itself
Yeah thats Why russians wins we have Best pilots ans cosmonavts ever)
Alexander Kilochek
sure your pilots are good but your politics are worse
@@Wartredis your pilots getting exposed in ukraine
There is much more to this too.. Failure rates, maintenance time, complexity of spare parts production and installation etc...
Nah you can't compare insignificant specs like climb rate and speed. These do no matter as missiles are faster than jets. The better avionics win all the time
There's been 4,600 f-16s built and sold globally . Only 1600 MiG-29s . The F-16 is one of the most successful fighters ever made for a reason .
Is a fact F16. Cost/ profit
Both have Their Own Style, I Respect Both Aircraft Designs
Is it just me or are both these jets some of the best looking fighters in the world
Gorgeous designs on both.
Mig -29 beast of world fighter jet
Yeah all of Iraq mig 29 during operation desert storm destroyed by aging f15e hahaha all of them without lost of single f15e
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The block 50 f16 win easy ! The Block 70 f16 ist better than mig35
F-22 is the best.that is why usa dont sell f-22
@@philanthropist6969 are you stupid? The f16 Block 50 fuck mig29 easy !!! The raptor f22 fuck all russia hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
In BVR (long range) the F16 would have a huge advantage due to their superior missiles. They have AIM-120Cs, which have a 2 way data-link and onboard radar. As a result it can guide a missile to the target without giving away that it launched a missile, and the missile will continue to track to the target's last known location and kill them even if the F16 has to turn cold (away).
Whereas an R-27ER depends on the MiG's radar to find its target. The F-16 will know exactly when the ER is launched, and the missile will go stupid if the Mig-29 is forced to retreat. The R-77-1 has capabilities much closer to that of the AIM-120c, but sacrifices range/energy to do so.
In a guns only dogfight it's very close. Germany still operates MiG-29s from the pre-cold war era and has done a number of training exercises with American F16s. Those cooperative dogfight training exercises show a close range battle between the two can go either way. It almost always comes down to user skill, but 90% of the time battles end long before gun range.
That depends on terrain features. )))))))
This is the answer. Additionally, closer range Fox 2 engagements win with 9Xs and off-boresight. I'm aware that the Archer exists, but I think the 9X performs better in real world testing
If you compare a Mig29 A to An F16 block 52 then yes. but compare it to a Mig 29 m then they are equal
The MiG-29 Can be outfitted with R-77s, which have a far superior range to the AIM-120, but who knows.
didn't 1 of those missiles just miss a "Chinese" balloon the size of 3 school buses?
Very interesting video. These two jets are pretty competitive when the facts are presented. I think at the end of the day the real question is which pilot has better skill?
I would say that the training and experience of the pilots is an important factor for victory.
An interesting thing I've read is that the MiG-29 has a godly turn radius for the first turn. After that it seems to fall off, whereas the F-16 can sustain a 9G turn for a much longer time. Also I think the test pilots said that the F-16 was able to perform vertical maneuvers better, though I could have misread that.
Another thing that goes beyond simply fighter to fighter is command and control. I think the US/NATO AWACS far outclasses the Russian system (this is unfounded and based on anecdote however, so please search for yourself), and would thus allow U.S./NATO forces to engage more easily.
I'm no analyst, but these fighters seem so evenly matched it would solely come down to fighter pilot skill in a dogfight.
God I hope it never comes to that though.
Really a sustained 9g turn is all that matters after 9 g's human being start having issues notably they tend to be knocked out
The most important part in every aircraft is pilot because if pilot suck no matter how advance your aircraft it useless just like certain country i know new aircraft on mission to attack isis base but miss fired and hit their own soldier but try to hide it from local media thank god someone record it using facebook live when trying to save miss fire victim i think 2 died 8 wounding in that accident
We getting there...
I am from the future, and we are almost there!
you should also Compare F-16 block 72 and Mig-35
Unbiased review well done but i like the beautifully designed F16 it looks awesome 👍
With how the 2 aircrafts are near identical performance-wise I guess it just comes down to how good (or lucky) the Pilots are.
Both beautiful capable and deadly.
I think it would depend on the pilot.
Its all about the pilot
@A B No, the mig is an air superiority fighter. Also, the mig, while having better flight characteristics, has less advanced technology implemented compared to the f-16. If these machines went against eachother with equally skilled pilots, it becomes anyone's game
It’ll never see a one on one. Too many birds flying at the same time.
They did. In 1999 during the Bosnia-Herzegovina war. The F16 won
Very good and very objective analysis.
As a North American, Ive ALWAYS respected the Reds’ aerospace engineering. They make some beautiful planes too - especially the su27
They're always a couple steps behind us. And in the case of the F-15, many steps behind.
As a aerospace engineer I believe US always has the edge over the Red. Always.
I personally prefer the Mig-29, that's one sexy plane.
F-35 is more tempting than mig 29
@@slimantarraf1576 If I was choosing the new generation of fighter it would be a close tie between the F22 and the SU-57. And only because I like the larger width of the Su-57
@God Love That is true to a degree. If you buy a Russian export plane, they intentionally downgrade the avionics and systems so it won't be as good as the ones they keep for themselves. So the only good Russian fighter is an actual Russian fighter.
Russia only has a tiny handful of prototype SU-57s and obviously they aren’t even in front line service. It’s stealth characteristics are poor compared to the F-22. Russia is for more concerned with building low rate prototype aircraft that look aggressive but never had any intention of going into full scale production.
The F-16 Viper is FAR sexier and more capable than the MiG-29. Of course, I’m a little biased since I’m an F-16 Crew Chief.
Each aircraft has its pros and cons
Seems like Ghost Of Kiev is doing pretty good with mig 29
The pilot that has more experience and training, and with a ground crew that has given the best maintenance to the aircraft he is piloting, will win.
It will always come down to pilot skill and knowledge of their aircraft's capabilities and limitations. However the F16 was never designed to fight the Mig29 in a dogfight, what's the point, it was never going to happen.
@@sterben728 yeah, the f16 is nothing compared to the mig29, hell even I took down 3 f16cs in a mig21bis
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He’s Armenian!!!!
@@mantastic4292 Lmao
Half Armenian and half Jewish . Mikoyan and Gurevich.
What about the Eurofighter typhoon too?
😂😂😂 Eurofighter 💩💩💩
@@guiguiferrand2296 Afrofighter
Reminds me of the 80s at air shows, when the Cold War was still on and these were brought out as the future aircraft.
Let's face it, no movie fighter jet confrontation was ever settled BVR.
These 2 planes have faced each other before in Yugoslavia 1999 twice. In both encounters the F16 won. It still doesn't tell which plane is better though as NATO had better situational awareness back then and both kills were BVR.
Lol Serbian MiG29 at the time were literally falling apart. Without proper maintenance and were going 1 against group of 50 enemy aircrafts. Some of them didnt even have working electronics.
@@Shulcyo and how would you know this ?
@@bryjb10 Its public information. And the casualties are contested. Serbia claims it downed 3 F16, 2 F15 and 1 F117. Considering how the west lies about their casualties, stating ridiculously low nimbers or none at all, imma trust the serbs on this one(Exepting the Aerial shootdown of the F117).
@@bryjb10 Because it makes sense, Yugoslavia was falling apart and was in heavy sanctions so there were more important things than mig 29 maintenance, apart from that pilots themselves admitted it in a documentary "kako se vodio rat", they were even using Motorola walkie-talkies to communicate...
It depends on the pilots ability and skills to defeat their opponent! But this two combat jet have different capabilities intended for their mission. Their specs differ from each other and they have a capabilities superior on each in different aspects.
Well said.
Combination of fighters in battle is more important...... that's why airforce of many countries uses combination of different fighters in battle
If comrade Biletnikoff does not have any vodka with breakfast, this is a very close duel. Could go either way
F-16 : 76 wins and 1 loss.
MIG-29 : 6 wins and 20 losses.
The last air to air combat involving MIG-29 and a US jet fighter was in 1999 ,when one F-15 shot down two MIG-29's with AMRAAM missiles
That 1999 when f 117 shot down whit S 125?
@@cira90g That wasn't air to air combat and it was pure luck and underestimating by NATO.
@@chichopepelopez then why did a b2 also get deatroyed? Its not luck again
Victories against weak opponents and under trained pilots.
Yeah, but in Iron Eagle, Doug Masters could fire 3 shots from the "30mm cannon" and blow up a tent.
😂😂😂👍
To be fair even a 20mm cannon can rip apart a tent.
These titles of who would win, this fighter or that fighter reminds me of videos about who would win a warrior with a katana or a warrior with a long sword. The answer is always the same. The better swordsman or in this case, the better fighter pilot.
Its not the plane who wins.. It's the pilot ability to maneuver and that's how it is
2 very different airframes and it would depend on the pilot not the airframe.
My country (Romania) had Mig29's a while ago, but the Russians refused to sell us spare parts anymore, so we had to buy used F16's from other countries. My dad flew on the modernized Mig29 Sniper, and now, at the end of his career, is flying on F16 bought from Portugal. He's saying that his Mig was better, even though he wasn't a comunist...
Russkie would sell you spare parts, but you have to pay in real currency and not oranges.
We have new F16s that are made to go toe-to-toe with modern Russian aircraft. It's the F-16 Block 70
@@florianthomas7852 My country is not in Southern Europe, Africa, Asia or South America, therefore the climate doesn't allow growing orage trees or any other tropical or subtropical plants. Reading a book at least from time to time might help you on long term, you know...
@@AGC2021 Did I hurt your proud romanian feelings? I actually read this book here "Britain's 'Political Romance' with Romania in the 1970s" where you can read about Ceausescus generals interest in the british jets, they tried to sign a Memorandum of understanding
on the purchase of brandnew Hawker Siddeley Harrier
jets.
However instead of paying the brits in hard currency like british pound or USD, the romanian government wanted to make an exchange in the delivery of fruits, amongst them were oranges.
Pahahahaha.
@@florianthomas7852 I doubt this happened, nobody's stupid enough to buy oranges (since we can't produce them) in order to trade them for something else - why spending money on them instead of spending on the object of interest? If that book exists, it must be full of bullshit. Anyway, after Ceausescu's visit in UK in the 70's, we started to make british BAC 1-11 passanger jets at Brasov, this is the historical fact.
Another historical fact: the russians refused to sell us spare parts for Mig29 as a revenge, because we modernized the communication, navigation and armament systems of the old 110 Mig21 fighters we had, in partnership with Elbit (a company from Israel), and not with them.
And how do you think we bought the F-16s we have today, with papaya and avocado? :))
Depending on who is behind the steering
Silly question. Which would win is determined by which one is better networked.
Fun Fact: The Air Force of Poland has both aircrafts
Right but only the 70% mig Version ;-)
Opłaca się ten deal z 28-mioma mig-29 w zamian za 28 f-16?
Malaysia with the mig-29: I'll Take your entire stock
Singapore will buy our f16s
Mig 29 cheaper and faster.
@@leesengwee4692 with a shorter range
@godzilla love sushi our big investor come from america not russia... america cover malaysia against china aggressor in south china sea..where is russia ?no voice at all
Malaysia? Still got engine available meh? I don't know that 🤷♂️
After 10 minutes...... "we still don't have a clue...what do you think??".
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That was a fair and unbiased comparison I have heard and seen. The conclusion was that F16 has a very slight edge because of slightly better radar. Now I am not being biased here,, just revealing a truth. In the last 10 months (after this video was made), Mig29 has gone through an unexpected upgraded. Has anyone heard of Mig29 UPG upgrade? Well because of that the slight edge of F16's radar is lost. Now it really and only depends on the Pilots skill.
Let the Americans integrate a mig 29 with their hardware and software and it would be superior. America just has a bigger budget and better technology. But the Russians designed the better barebones plane.
@@forfun6273 MiG-29 has a 6-18 combat record (3 MiG-29's get shot down for every kill they get). F-16 has a 76-1 combat record (nearly flawless). Quit overhyping Russian weapon platforms, they're severely overrated.
@@Horible4 yeah who’s been flying each?
@@forfun6273 This excuse has been used for 5 generations of Soviet fighters. The MiG-21 also has a losing record at 240 kills to 501 shot down. Are you really going to try to convince me the Russians have been putting poorly trained pilots in their supposedly most formidable fighters for over 60 years? On paper these aircraft are told to be dangerous but when they actually get into combat, they get clobbered. The F-16, F-4, F-15, F-14, all have enjoyed the best combat records of any fighter in history. Not a single Russian aircraft comes close to their level of success. You can't convince me these thing's aren't flying propaganda.
Aright, let’s settle this. Someone get Growling Sidewinder to prove who’s the winner
True that
Of course the pilot skills are the most important. But if need to say which one is better I think it is the Mig 29.
Thanks
Dog fight mig will win,but depending on pilot.
Two of them after engaging an F 15, not even a 16 got btfo'd lmao
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_War#USAF_F-15C_vs._IRAF_MiG-21s
Man them mig29s and 21s are trash fam :^)
Mig down LIKE abhi nandan mig down by PAF.HEHEHE
@@MyWorld-rl7lm F 16 down by mig 21 ... tch tch tch.moreover 300 out of the world. Imagine if our mig 21 shoots your (i mean USA's , you guys cant afford it) F16. Then what would rafale do
F16 win easy vs mig29 ! F16 block 70 fuck mig35 !!
It is not the machine wins, The man behind the machine wins.
yes, very wise words.
Sky Flash! Wow, there's a missile I haven't heard about since the Tornado ADV...
Well i enjoyed this, even though i had hoped their would be a winner.
These machines cannot be compared. These are masterpieces and originals.,.
But mig 29 looks a lot cooler
It's really not a good comparison, since their primary roles are different. Why not compare the MiG to the F-15, especially since it's mentioned as the counterpart of the MiG?
Counterpart for F 15 is SU 27 not a Mig 29 Mig is a cheaper version of Su 27 primary for export
@@altergreenhorn Thanks for the insight. Either way, I don't think comparing the F-16 to either the SU or Mig is necessarily fair. And remember, I didn't say the MiG and the F-15 were comparable -- the video did.
@@altergreenhorn That's not quite true. Russia has currently about 600 Mig 29's in service. As multirole- fighter it has the primarily task to engage enemy fighters. While being a multirole fighter as well, the Su 27 has the task to intercept enemy bombers and to give long range escort for their own bombers.
Both planes went into export but Russia exports are kind of downgraded variants, keeping the better versions for their own Air Force.
The Lockheed/Martin F-22 Raptor would eat all of their lunches!
Up to the pilots both great machines
In the end it all comes down to weapons systems.
The best piolet survive that's it
@@kapasayskonichwa6646 Crap. Some of the best pilots in WW2 and other conflicts were shot out of the sky by inexperienced pilots simply because they were flying superior aircraft with superior weaponry.
Put two pilots in the same aircraft then the best pilot will prevail.
@Юрий Тойкичев my only comment is, you best stay out of the airforce if that is what you believe.
Apparently Mig-29 seems better ..
But the Abilities of Operator does Matter ..👍
The F-16 is an overall better aircraft, so in a dogfight, at least on paper, the f-16 should kick ass, but at the end of the day it could depend on things as little as what the pilot had for breakfast.
@@tadounia01 🤣🤣🤣
It's all fun in games till someone gets a camera and laser screen tv and project the background to make the aircraft a active camouflage
Then disable it when there about to strike lol
You left out electronic warfare measures such as towable decoys and jammer.
When all is said and done it depends on which pilot is more skilled and experienced.
Actually depends more on pilot than plane
Oh really
Mikoyan would eat it easily but during birds combat it’s all up to pilots ❤️
Jamie Koering I wear helmet ⛑
As a BF3 player that was once ranked top 3 in fighter jet kills on the ps3 platform, I'd also come to the conclusion that it all boils down to the pilot.
😂👍
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Highly depends on condition who's cleaner weapons etc etc etc it's really more about tactics
I must admit, the MIG is damn sexy. You can't compare the 2 planes. An F15 would be the proper opponent against an MIG 29. The F16 doesn't stand a chance
Wrong comrad.
I think it depends on the pilot. Another interesting info I read some years ago about the MiG 29 (at least the first versions) is that has hydraulic/mechanical (non fly by wire) and non limited controls. It can go beyond its fuselage limits for short periods of time if needed, giving it an advantage in close combat.
Yes. Mig-29 was made as fighter which has no value compared to value of victory. With F-16, it is just another merchandise, both pilot and airplane.
G13
Nice video