The boil time angle is overstated for the majority of backpackers. The real savings of a heat exchanger pot are realized by the fuel savings. Any experienced backpacker knows to the the gas valve no more than half way open, as the flame is more efficient. Why is that the real deal? When you're backpacking for more than a few days you will need either two small 110g fuel cans, or one 220g can. The empty cans are dead weight. Thus an efficient setup means you can boil 16 oz of water 25-28 times with a 110g gas can. Not sure why Luke didn't focus on this aspect. As he mentioned, the field difference in boil times for the best stoves is not really relevant. Most of us go outdoors to relax and enjoy. Whether a boil takes 2 min or 5 min (alcohol or solid fuel), it doesn't matter. If YOU are relaxed, that is what matters!
One more fuel saving tip is not to go to a full rolling boil unless you really need it. For rehydrating meals... probably yes. For a cup of coffee... probably not.
Totally agree. Fuel savings is the key. Kind of the same thing with gear weight, weight is more important than volume. I can carry a huge backpack with no problem if the weight is low. Try to carry a small backpack filled with led.
Just finished testing this (Petrel/Greenpeak) about 6 grams to boil 500 ml of 20C in calm conditions. 10 grams to boil 500 ml at 20 C in an 8 mph wind. Nice system and comparable to teh Soto. My 2 cents.
I have that pot but I use the Soto windmaster with the 3 leg attachment. I boiled 1 cup of water in about 40 seconds while on an overnight trip. Tried it again in my kitchen with 2/3 cup of water and boiled it in 20 seconds. Love it.
Hello Luke, yeah you're right. 20 seconds difference in boiling time doesn't make much difference in the wilderness but it does make a difference in your liquid canister fuel and that is an advantage for me. All my pots have heat exchangers, been using it since 2013 and it really is an advantage . 🤙
I have the pot and I've been using it since the winter. In the winter I use a TOMSHOO titanium alcohol stove with foldable legs and pot supports and in the summer I'll use the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe. The TOMSHOO fits nicely. The MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe is a little fiddly to make it fit. It boils water surprisingly quick with both stoves. And even faster when I wrap one of those titanium wind shield around the pot & stove. Speed isn't exactly a priority for me but fuel efficiency is important to me.
I recently bought the GreenPeak Stove, and their 1L aluminum pot that also has the heat exchanger on the bottom, but does not have the slots for the stove arms. The pot also has handles very similar to the cup in your video. I got the chance to use the cook kit not quite two-weeks ago on a very windy day where I backpacked to a nearby park (~7.65 miles) where I cooked a ramen, Spam, and spray cheese combination. Using my body and a plastic trash barrel to block the wind as the best I could, I had no issues with either the stove or pot and I was very satisfied with both. I didn't time it, but I thought the boil time on 750 ml of water was very fast. The stove lit on the first spark from the ignitor. A great, and fair review.
You read my mind. I have been watching you in several videos use you cooking kit and I was going to look in some of description sections of your videos to get more equipment details but you saved me time doing this video and explained everything really well. Thanks
That pot is very interesting! Here's the kit I currently have for a 15lb dry pack weight. Total cook kit is about 235.82g - 8.32oz. and cost me about $50. Toaks 750ml Titanium cup with bail handle - 110.6g BRS 3000 stove - 26g Green plastic Stanley nesting cup (from the Stanley Adventure kit I got for free) - 79.38g Toaks Titanium spoon - 19.84g
When I’m out carrying my stuff in a backpack, I am now only doing 1-2 nights max (at least so far as I’m going solo for the 1st time since my teen years). My primary concern is not “boil time” because eventually water will boil for any stove I’ve seen. But what DOES matter, is fuel usage. If I have two cups of coffee (doing single serving drip funnel) in the AM and heat stuff even just for dinner and tea (often in afternoon too now) how many times I can make the thing work on a trip on one SMALL can of fuel. Great Video as usual! Thanks!
I've experimented with a twig stove and a heat exchanger pot, but the 1L variant. The heat exchanger makes a difference from a ten minute hardly boiling, to a seven minute rolling boil. This is doing one collection of twigs, and not refilling the fire part way through. If you are using alcohol or twig stoves with less heat output, i would say this tech will have even greater advantages in taking more advantage of low heat output.
I bought the Petrel Pot and the Polaris Pressure-regulator Gas Stove. The stove is supposedly more reliable when the fuel is low and in high altitude and cold weather.
Hi Luke! That is a pretty neat set there! The pot that locks into the stove is almost a no brainer once you think of it! Very nice. Don't think you can beat that setup for the price! Thanks for sharing and have a great week!
@TheOutdoorGearReview i think a better metric to use for comparison of the heat spreader is gas consumption. it seems like your using about 15% less fuel which could be relevant to people
The pot works with the MSR Pocket Rocket (original) It does not work with the BRS stove. If your tri-leg stove opens directly from the center, it will work, if the line of the legs do not point directly to the center of the stove, then it will not work. (You can of course modify the pot or legs if you want.)
The pot does fit the Jetboil MightyMo. My kit is just the stove, the pot, fuel canister and a collapsible Sea to Summit silicone cup. It fits together and works great for me.
Oh good, I just bought these same pot and stove but haven't used them yet. I pack a 100g canister, an aftermarket canister stabilizer, a spoon/fork titanium thing from Vargo (has spoon on one and a fork on the other and is long), and a ferro rod.
Of course needs and scenarios vary but I generally can't imagine being out in nature and yet feeling so rushed that I can't spare an extra 30 seconds to heat up some water. That kind of pressure to rush is the kind of thing I want to get away from, not embrace.
Faster boil times mean that you can conserve stove fuel to get more uses out of a single canister; All else being equal the boil times are usually proportional to how much fuel is used.
@@odog1999this is exactly what I came to the comments to say. Less fuel consumption is always a benefit when you're carrying everything. If you can get one or 2 more cooks out of a bottle that's definitely of benefit.
Yes I have replaced my jet oil with this pot and similar stove mainly for fuel efficiency and weight savings on multi day hikes, in spring summer early autumn, for single nights I prefer something I can actually cook food with.
I have FireMaple products and they are well build and reliable... this featured combo pot and stove with great channels to integrate....nice review.... thanks
I have a very similar set up but I also carry lots of sachets of tasters nasty in it also. Because everyone knows the Caffeine Addicts Survival Rules of 3. 3 weeks without food 3 days without water 3 hours without shelter 3 minutes without air 3 seconds without a coffee ☕️
I have been checking this pot out, and haven’t pulled the trigger yet. I love the review and the stove option but it will be used with my MSR pocket rocket deluxe as I already have it and enjoy this stove. 18sec with that stove is as someone below said 15% savings and fuel and maybe 48sec. with the right stove as Luke mentioned another 30sec faster that’s a huge fuel savings and taking a smaller fuel canister or more days on trail with same one. Great Review Luke!
When you think about it the heat spreader is a built-in windscreen. It would be nice to see what popular three-pronged stoves work with this one. The BRS 3000 is one I'd like to see reviewed in particular because its boil time is abysmal without wind protection. On another note though I discovered a new outdoor portable water filter company recently from the UK. It's called pure clear and seems to essentially be a miniature Grayl filter from the review I first encountered it in. One thing that concerns me is its versatility because it seems to have a proprietary screw-top attachment. Given its flow rate, it would be really nice to be able to set up a gravity filter feed, but I am not sure that is possible. Also, I'd like to know if its claims regarding its filter capabilities hold up to snuff. If it does, I would see this as considerably more useful than the Grayl, even with a reduced flow rate, just simply due to its size and ability to remove the taste from more questionable water sources. I would love to see a review from you on it. They do ship to the US.
I suspect the performance difference outdoors will be better than just 18 seconds because the stove is partly shrouded from the wind by the petrel's heat spreader. It may be further improved by using a Soto Windmaster with the triflex support (or is this stove just a copy of that?). An advantage of this type of setup over something like a Jetboil and other similar kits is that with this setup you could, if needed, use the regular thin and tall butane canisters with an adapter. Those types of butane canisters are common in some parts of the world and are definitely cheaper. So it gives a little more versatility.
Hello Luke. I find a more noticeable difference with a heat spreader pot and an alcohol stove. It can be the difference between achieving a boil, or lukewarm water when the stove size dictates the maximum fuel per burn. As well, just to point it out, 18 seconds difference represents a 15% increase in not only time but fuel burned in your test. A user would need to decide if that fuel would add up on a longer trip to offset the extra weight of the diffuser.
Wait a minute, I thought you didn't like Fire Maple products!! I personally think their items are awesome and not as pricey as the name brands out there.
Hey Luke! Are you going to do a review of Savottas new hip bags? Because I’m looking forward to them! Hopefully you’re testing them out off screen 😎 all the best!
I am. Sure. A combination kit that you put together Luke will work And I get the performance part .To me how long it takes to boil water To me is no issue I am there to slow down life.
The soto windmaster is incredibly quick when combined with this pot.You are talking about 45/50 seconds to boil a mug of water and because of this i have since sold my MSR Windmaster and Reactor. Also I use the lid off my Toaks 700 mug on my petrel because its lighter than the plastic lid that comes with the Petrel and a Wildo collapsable mug houses neatly on the bottom of the pot.... You're welcome Luke 😉
I've had an older Optimus Crux w/Terra Weekend HE cook set for many years that has worked great for me, 1L heat exchanger pot, fry pan pot lid, holds the fantastic Crux stove, gas canister, other needed stuff etc., I added the optional clip on wind screen that fits in the nice mesh bag as well. Sadly Optimus no longer makes this particular set, what a loss.
So , with my Jetboil Stash , which is a similar product but double the cost , I so far have only used it at home for small cups of coffee , about 10oz give or take. Boil time for this is 40 seconds. I'll try two cups and maybe update.
Hi Luke!! Is it possible to use propane with the adapter that fire maple offers? Would the boiling time improve?, also, the titanium spoon how would it compare to self reliance outfitters spoon, and spatula set that they offer? Thank you so much in advance love your channel and content.❤❤❤👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿💯💯💯
Seconds don't matter to me. My issue with heat spreader pots is using them over open flames. My default is a debris stove (Firebox Freestyle or Nano Ti) and an alcohol stove (Trangia, Siphon, or Fancee Feest). I like the alcohol stove for the morning, and the debris stove for cooking dinner. I'm not in a hurry to cook, and I like the silence. Even when I used rocket stoves, I still liked having the ability to cook on a fire if/when there are stove or fuel problems.
That is the largest isobutane fuel canister I’ve ever seen. A 4oz canister could probably fit inside the 550 cup, making this kit extremely lighter and smaller.
I wonder if this is compatible with my fire maple polaris regulated stove. The shape and size, and folding mechanism is the same except that it doesn't have an ignitor. Look solid this stove to me.
Yes the Polaris regulator stove does work with Petrel Pot. I have three stoves that fit the Petrel Pot. The Soto Windmaster with the Triflex pot stand, the Fire Maple Polaris Regulator and the Fire Maple Greentree stove, they all fit the Petrel pot.
going by fire maples stats the hornet uses 0.21oz for 500ml so 0.050z less then the greenpeak, it also shaves of over 20seconds of boil time. i also believe the hornet is pressure regulated
The 20 seconds would be the minimum difference though right? I imagine the difference gets larger as a percentage of boil time in colder/more windy conditions
@@joker2100 I have not tried it myself, it is a very tight squeeze and I would say its use is very iffy for something with boiling water. I saw this video. ua-cam.com/video/ilwLqj6Mu3g/v-deo.html&ab_channel=FlatCatGear
Hello Luke, I was ordering this stove and pot until it added a $4.99 shipping insurance. It would not allow me to opt out of it. Have you experienced that extra charge? Thank you
I don't have one, but I can tell you FireMaple also sells cook sets with multiple pots, pans, and a skillet. Without looking I can't tell you if they sell the skillets seperately.
I've been seeing ads for these Fire Maple camping stuff and have seen you using some of their items and hope you got some reviews of their cook sets on the way. They seem reasonable and looks like decent quality so far.
I have that pot and can put a small gas canister, my Soto windmaster with triflex stand, a small lighter, and a sham wow, all inside of it. Why would someone ever carry a gas canister that huge????
They offer a combo with the green peak stove now and it is 74 bucks buy by the time you add taxes and S&H it is over 80 bucks. I bought the stove for 19.99 and the pot for 23.99 after taxes and S&H it came to 58.99. That is still about 30 bucks cheaper. As for the time to boil water 2 minutes is fine for me. It's not like I'm on a survive escape resiste and evade situation. Most of the time your boiling water at the end of a long hike on a long day and it gives you time to relax and unwind
The only thing for me would be the heat spreader. If you wanted to use a "cozy" around the pot to save fuel it would just be more awkward and 20 seconds boil time isn't enough to make it worth while. Seems like more of a gimmick than anything. Harder to nest pots, and takes more space.
I have a question unrelated to cooking. I always enjoy your videos. How do you address security at your campsites and/or have you done some videos in the past on this issue? I mean carrying a handgun is always a good idea but doesn't address all security concerns, especially if you are sleeping in the middle of no where. Have you thought about using Kevlar line as a perimeter trip wire / warning system? Maybe the wire will also deter some animals. I mentioned Kevlar line because it's light weight, extremely strong, fire resistant, and has extra use case uses, similar to paranoid but lighter and stronger in some instances. My other question is safety from hunters. I don't see you ever wearing any bright colors when camping. Is that because you don't camp during hunting seasons or the areas you camp at don't allow hunting. I. Learned there about about one thousand accidental hunting shootings each year with about 100 deaths. What are your recommendations? Thank you.
So the greenpeak is FMS-119 on the FM site and it's not on amazon. The petrel pot is on amazon. Amazon won't ship the FM stoves, even without fuel, to AK. Go figure.
So what do you gas guys do when you in the bush and run out of gas? I never use gas specifically for that. I guess the heat spreader would be ideal to help preserve your fuel where possible. Still, I’m just burning twigs. Titanium stove light as possible and I don’t have to carry any fuel just use what dry carbon I can find. Always been a firebug so I’ve never had an issue finding my own fuel.
It's extremely unlikely that an experienced, responsible backpacker will run out of gas because they already know how much they're going to need and will pack accordingly. If it does happen the solution is to just build a little fire. The worst thing about using gas is that you end up with a bunch of cans with almost nothing in them and that aren't worth packing. You can buy a transfer valve to dump it all into a single can, but I just hang onto them and use them at home for things like making waxed canvas and coffee when a storm knocks the power out. The best thing about gas is that you don't get covered in that stinky smoke smell which I personally cannot tolerate. It does suck in the winter, though, because if you don't keep the can warm you'll use up an enormous amount of gas just to boil a little water, but probably most winter backpackers switch to either white gas or alcohol when the temperature starts dipping that low.
As much as I want to say. You did a good job. It's fire maple.... That's a company that doesn't seem to mind selling us dangerous gear. I do not care if this one is a good one. I will not support that brand.
The boil time angle is overstated for the majority of backpackers. The real savings of a heat exchanger pot are realized by the fuel savings. Any experienced backpacker knows to the the gas valve no more than half way open, as the flame is more efficient. Why is that the real deal? When you're backpacking for more than a few days you will need either two small 110g fuel cans, or one 220g can. The empty cans are dead weight. Thus an efficient setup means you can boil 16 oz of water 25-28 times with a 110g gas can. Not sure why Luke didn't focus on this aspect. As he mentioned, the field difference in boil times for the best stoves is not really relevant. Most of us go outdoors to relax and enjoy. Whether a boil takes 2 min or 5 min (alcohol or solid fuel), it doesn't matter. If YOU are relaxed, that is what matters!
Exactly. 👍
One more fuel saving tip is not to go to a full rolling boil unless you really need it. For rehydrating meals... probably yes. For a cup of coffee... probably not.
Totally agree. Fuel savings is the key. Kind of the same thing with gear weight, weight is more important than volume. I can carry a huge backpack with no problem if the weight is low. Try to carry a small backpack filled with led.
Just finished testing this (Petrel/Greenpeak) about 6 grams to boil 500 ml of 20C in calm conditions. 10 grams to boil 500 ml at 20 C in an 8 mph wind. Nice system and comparable to teh Soto. My 2 cents.
I have that pot but I use the Soto windmaster with the 3 leg attachment. I boiled 1 cup of water in about 40 seconds while on an overnight trip. Tried it again in my kitchen with 2/3 cup of water and boiled it in 20 seconds. Love it.
Hello Luke, yeah you're right. 20 seconds difference in boiling time doesn't make much difference in the wilderness but it does make a difference in your liquid canister fuel and that is an advantage for me. All my pots have heat exchangers, been using it since 2013 and it really is an advantage . 🤙
I have the pot and I've been using it since the winter. In the winter I use a TOMSHOO titanium alcohol stove with foldable legs and pot supports and in the summer I'll use the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe. The TOMSHOO fits nicely. The MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe is a little fiddly to make it fit. It boils water surprisingly quick with both stoves. And even faster when I wrap one of those titanium wind shield around the pot & stove. Speed isn't exactly a priority for me but fuel efficiency is important to me.
I dont think it will work with the Deluxe.
@@carldwyer6058 it does but it's a bit fiddly. I've used it several times and it's my go-to setup for boiling water
No wonder you're always outside,, looks like you live in a pumpkin.😳😎🤣🤗 I appreciate your input and wisdom towards the outdoors👍 Thanks Luke
I recently bought the GreenPeak Stove, and their 1L aluminum pot that also has the heat exchanger on the bottom, but does not have the slots for the stove arms. The pot also has handles very similar to the cup in your video. I got the chance to use the cook kit not quite two-weeks ago on a very windy day where I backpacked to a nearby park (~7.65 miles) where I cooked a ramen, Spam, and spray cheese combination. Using my body and a plastic trash barrel to block the wind as the best I could, I had no issues with either the stove or pot and I was very satisfied with both. I didn't time it, but I thought the boil time on 750 ml of water was very fast. The stove lit on the first spark from the ignitor. A great, and fair review.
I love this! I just wish the pot was titanium vs aluminum.
Thanks for the review. You rock as always!
When it comes to stoves, I'll never give up my Soto Amicus.
Very cool! Thank you for sharing.
You read my mind. I have been watching you in several videos use you cooking kit and I was going to look in some of description sections of your videos to get more equipment details but you saved me time doing this video and explained everything really well. Thanks
That pot is very interesting!
Here's the kit I currently have for a 15lb dry pack weight. Total cook kit is about 235.82g - 8.32oz. and cost me about $50.
Toaks 750ml Titanium cup with bail handle - 110.6g
BRS 3000 stove - 26g
Green plastic Stanley nesting cup (from the Stanley Adventure kit I got for free) - 79.38g
Toaks Titanium spoon - 19.84g
Nice review as always. By the way, I like the simpler introduction, thanks for the change!
When I’m out carrying my stuff in a backpack, I am now only doing 1-2 nights max (at least so far as I’m going solo for the 1st time since my teen years). My primary concern is not “boil time” because eventually water will boil for any stove I’ve seen. But what DOES matter, is fuel usage. If I have two cups of coffee (doing single serving drip funnel) in the AM and heat stuff even just for dinner and tea (often in afternoon too now) how many times I can make the thing work on a trip on one SMALL can of fuel. Great Video as usual! Thanks!
I've experimented with a twig stove and a heat exchanger pot, but the 1L variant. The heat exchanger makes a difference from a ten minute hardly boiling, to a seven minute rolling boil. This is doing one collection of twigs, and not refilling the fire part way through. If you are using alcohol or twig stoves with less heat output, i would say this tech will have even greater advantages in taking more advantage of low heat output.
I have the x2 and x3... they have put in some work and never let me down. I am team FireMaple
I bought the Petrel Pot and the Polaris Pressure-regulator Gas Stove. The stove is supposedly more reliable when the fuel is low and in high altitude and cold weather.
Hi Luke! That is a pretty neat set there! The pot that locks into the stove is almost a no brainer once you think of it! Very nice. Don't think you can beat that setup for the price! Thanks for sharing and have a great week!
@TheOutdoorGearReview i think a better metric to use for comparison of the heat spreader is gas consumption. it seems like your using about 15% less fuel which could be relevant to people
This is an awesome kit. Thank you so much for sharing. I enjoyed the episode.
The pot works with the MSR Pocket Rocket (original)
It does not work with the BRS stove.
If your tri-leg stove opens directly from the center, it will work, if the line of the legs do not point directly to the center of the stove, then it will not work. (You can of course modify the pot or legs if you want.)
It's a nice kit I like it and u can't bet the price
The pot does fit the Jetboil MightyMo. My kit is just the stove, the pot, fuel canister and a collapsible Sea to Summit silicone cup. It fits together and works great for me.
Oh good, I just bought these same pot and stove but haven't used them yet. I pack a 100g canister, an aftermarket canister stabilizer, a spoon/fork titanium thing from Vargo (has spoon on one and a fork on the other and is long), and a ferro rod.
Kit sounds like a really good one.
Took a angle grinde with a thin cutoff disc cut the same slots game changer
Of course needs and scenarios vary but I generally can't imagine being out in nature and yet feeling so rushed that I can't spare an extra 30 seconds to heat up some water. That kind of pressure to rush is the kind of thing I want to get away from, not embrace.
Faster boil times mean that you can conserve stove fuel to get more uses out of a single canister; All else being equal the boil times are usually proportional to how much fuel is used.
@@odog1999 The point about fuel is fair.
@@odog1999this is exactly what I came to the comments to say. Less fuel consumption is always a benefit when you're carrying everything. If you can get one or 2 more cooks out of a bottle that's definitely of benefit.
Yes I have replaced my jet oil with this pot and similar stove mainly for fuel efficiency and weight savings on multi day hikes, in spring summer early autumn, for single nights I prefer something I can actually cook food with.
I’m with you.
Is it efficient.
Is it quiet.
Does it simmer.
Stable, good in the wind.
Can I cook on it.
Fast, is not on the list.
I have FireMaple products and they are well build and reliable... this featured combo pot and stove with great channels to integrate....nice review.... thanks
I have a very similar set up but I also carry lots of sachets of tasters nasty in it also. Because everyone knows the Caffeine Addicts Survival Rules of 3.
3 weeks without food
3 days without water
3 hours without shelter
3 minutes without air
3 seconds without a coffee ☕️
Awesome 👌
Keeping paper towels between the cookware to dampen the clanking - now that's some real "lifehacks".
I have been checking this pot out, and haven’t pulled the trigger yet. I love the review and the stove option but it will be used with my MSR pocket rocket deluxe as I already have it and enjoy this stove. 18sec with that stove is as someone below said 15% savings and fuel and maybe 48sec. with the right stove as Luke mentioned another 30sec faster that’s a huge fuel savings and taking a smaller fuel canister or more days on trail with same one. Great Review Luke!
Kinda like the MSR long spoon for it more bowl shaped base but double the price and 1gram heavier
It will no work with the Pocket Rocket Deluxe. As the legs do not open out directly from the center of the stove.
When you think about it the heat spreader is a built-in windscreen. It would be nice to see what popular three-pronged stoves work with this one. The BRS 3000 is one I'd like to see reviewed in particular because its boil time is abysmal without wind protection.
On another note though I discovered a new outdoor portable water filter company recently from the UK. It's called pure clear and seems to essentially be a miniature Grayl filter from the review I first encountered it in. One thing that concerns me is its versatility because it seems to have a proprietary screw-top attachment. Given its flow rate, it would be really nice to be able to set up a gravity filter feed, but I am not sure that is possible. Also, I'd like to know if its claims regarding its filter capabilities hold up to snuff. If it does, I would see this as considerably more useful than the Grayl, even with a reduced flow rate, just simply due to its size and ability to remove the taste from more questionable water sources. I would love to see a review from you on it. They do ship to the US.
I suspect the performance difference outdoors will be better than just 18 seconds because the stove is partly shrouded from the wind by the petrel's heat spreader. It may be further improved by using a Soto Windmaster with the triflex support (or is this stove just a copy of that?). An advantage of this type of setup over something like a Jetboil and other similar kits is that with this setup you could, if needed, use the regular thin and tall butane canisters with an adapter. Those types of butane canisters are common in some parts of the world and are definitely cheaper. So it gives a little more versatility.
I have this pot and run it with an O.G. MSR Pocket Rocket 1..... it's a pretty sweet set-up.
Dangnabbit, you beat me to it. Justin's channel featured this stove/pot setup a couple of weeks ago.
Hello Luke. I find a more noticeable difference with a heat spreader pot and an alcohol stove. It can be the difference between achieving a boil, or lukewarm water when the stove size dictates the maximum fuel per burn.
As well, just to point it out, 18 seconds difference represents a 15% increase in not only time but fuel burned in your test. A user would need to decide if that fuel would add up on a longer trip to offset the extra weight of the diffuser.
It would be more than 18 seconds with outside temperature water and air.
I'd buy the stove....but I'm fond of my Toaks 750ml. And the spoon is nice, I have one and I'm happy with it.
Pots been out for awhile, pot looks good but you should do a video testing it with different stoves.
Thanks. Great review
Minimo for the win!!!
Great video Luke!
Wait a minute, I thought you didn't like Fire Maple products!! I personally think their items are awesome and not as pricey as the name brands out there.
Hey Luke! Are you going to do a review of Savottas new hip bags? Because I’m looking forward to them! Hopefully you’re testing them out off screen 😎 all the best!
I am.
Sure. A combination kit that you put together Luke will work And I get the performance part .To me how long it takes to boil water To me is no issue I am there to slow down life.
Did you try the gas mixed fuel yet on you fire maple Greenpeak beside isobutane?
Just wondering if that pot will work with a stove I already have 🤔 Guess I'll have to get one and find out
Come on Luke, you have links for everything BUT the products you are reviewing!
Very nice just just was hoping you would of recommended a good lite weight frying pan!.
The soto windmaster is incredibly quick when combined with this pot.You are talking about 45/50 seconds to boil a mug of water and because of this i have since sold my MSR Windmaster and Reactor. Also I use the lid off my Toaks 700 mug on my petrel because its lighter than the plastic lid that comes with the Petrel and a Wildo collapsable mug houses neatly on the bottom of the pot.... You're welcome Luke 😉
Heat spreader very similar to jetboil brand
Will other three legged stoves, fit the pot.
Like MSR pocket rocket?
We all have a few of these basic design stoves in our closets already.
Hi Luke, please do a review of the Berghaus Grampian 3 tent! I would really like to hear your thoughts on it.
I've had an older Optimus Crux w/Terra Weekend HE cook set for many years that has worked great for me, 1L heat exchanger pot, fry pan pot lid, holds the fantastic Crux stove, gas canister, other needed stuff etc., I added the optional clip on wind screen that fits in the nice mesh bag as well. Sadly Optimus no longer makes this particular set, what a loss.
Performance in wind? Can the heat exchanger take ths place of a wind screen?
Optimus also offers a pot with a heat exchanger that's been out for at least 6+ years but it doesn't have the stove notches underneath.
Make notches with a grinder.
So , with my Jetboil Stash , which is a similar product but double the cost , I so far have only used it at home for small cups of coffee , about 10oz give or take. Boil time for this is 40 seconds. I'll try two cups and maybe update.
Hi Luke!! Is it possible to use propane with the adapter that fire maple offers? Would the boiling time improve?, also, the titanium spoon how would it compare to self reliance outfitters spoon, and spatula set that they offer? Thank you so much in advance love your channel and content.❤❤❤👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿💯💯💯
100g gas carnister fits in this perfectly. This and a litle bit modified brs2000 stove wins with everything on the market. Not mentioning the price.
Im Titanium...brother
Seconds don't matter to me. My issue with heat spreader pots is using them over open flames. My default is a debris stove (Firebox Freestyle or Nano Ti) and an alcohol stove (Trangia, Siphon, or Fancee Feest). I like the alcohol stove for the morning, and the debris stove for cooking dinner. I'm not in a hurry to cook, and I like the silence. Even when I used rocket stoves, I still liked having the ability to cook on a fire if/when there are stove or fuel problems.
any links to the FireMaple Petrel Pot & GreenPeak Stove
In your boil test with the non heat exchange pot, was that pot aluminum or titanium?
Thanks.
Is there a frying pan that fits on the stove?
Hi make videos about the watch your wearing 😊
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY Luke and thank you for sharing your thoughts and information
That stove is very similar to Jetboil MightyMo.
Problem with aluminium is that you don't want that in your drinking or food. So stay safe and use titanium
That is the largest isobutane fuel canister I’ve ever seen. A 4oz canister could probably fit inside the 550 cup, making this kit extremely lighter and smaller.
@TheOutDoorGearReview can you link the green peak stove for $20.00
Like this a lot!
Really cool. What's the name of the bag your cook kit is in?
My assumption would be that the heat spreader will make a bigger difference the stronger the wind is.
I wonder if this is compatible with my fire maple polaris regulated stove. The shape and size, and folding mechanism is the same except that it doesn't have an ignitor. Look solid this stove to me.
Yes the Polaris regulator stove does work with Petrel Pot. I have three stoves that fit the Petrel Pot. The Soto Windmaster with the Triflex pot stand, the Fire Maple Polaris Regulator and the Fire Maple Greentree stove, they all fit the Petrel pot.
going by fire maples stats the hornet uses 0.21oz for 500ml so 0.050z less then the greenpeak, it also shaves of over 20seconds of boil time. i also believe the hornet is pressure regulated
you should check out the FMS-125 PRO Stove, it might be compatible with the IGT tables
Does the petrel pot fit the Soto Windmaster with the 3 pot stand attachment?
Yes it does, I have the Petrel Pot and the Windmaster Triflex as the three prong pot stand is called. It fits.
The 20 seconds would be the minimum difference though right? I imagine the difference gets larger as a percentage of boil time in colder/more windy conditions
Finally someone gets it!
20 seconds with a cranky spouse is alot
Does the pot work with the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe?
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No it will not
@@carldwyer6058 Did you try? EDIT: Noticed one of your comments about prongs must be facing center circle.
@@joker2100you can use your Pocket Rockdt Deluxe!
@@joker2100 I have not tried it myself, it is a very tight squeeze and I would say its use is very iffy for something with boiling water.
I saw this video.
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Hello Luke, I was ordering this stove and pot until it added a $4.99 shipping insurance. It would not allow me to opt out of it. Have you experienced that extra charge? Thank you
I think that a 500 ml cup. Would be a better option. Because you can nest in a Nalgene water bottle. Not a big deal but kind of nice.
In My neck of the woods, Propane/Butane is hard to get. Any Multi Fuel(Specially Gasoline) stoves you recomend?👍👍
Primus Omnilite ti, Kovea hydra
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How does this compare to the Optimus Crux?
Hey Luke! Where did you get the orange bag you had the stove kit in? I want one!
I don't have one, but I can tell you FireMaple also sells cook sets with multiple pots, pans, and a skillet. Without looking I can't tell you if they sell the skillets seperately.
Really curious if msr pocket rocket 2 would fit this pot ? If thats the case i may get the pot and not the stove
I have the Pocket Rocket Deluxe and works perfectly so I would gather it’s the same with the 2.
@@HUKIT. thanks!
I've been seeing ads for these Fire Maple camping stuff and have seen you using some of their items and hope you got some reviews of their cook sets on the way. They seem reasonable and looks like decent quality so far.
Weird, my cheap mono price one locks in place and has heat spreaders… I actually dislike the locking feature.
I have that pot and can put a small gas canister, my Soto windmaster with triflex stand, a small lighter, and a sham wow, all inside of it. Why would someone ever carry a gas canister that huge????
...cause they want more gas?
Yes, for a big family
He's gotta fill that giant backpack with something.
If you were going out for several days and wanted to eat and have coffee ? Car camping, I'd take a 30lb bottle and a twin burner (cos I have them !)
They offer a combo with the green peak stove now and it is 74 bucks buy by the time you add taxes and S&H it is over 80 bucks. I bought the stove for 19.99 and the pot for 23.99 after taxes and S&H it came to 58.99. That is still about 30 bucks cheaper. As for the time to boil water 2 minutes is fine for me. It's not like I'm on a survive escape resiste and evade situation. Most of the time your boiling water at the end of a long hike on a long day and it gives you time to relax and unwind
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The only thing for me would be the heat spreader. If you wanted to use a "cozy" around the pot to save fuel it would just be more awkward and 20 seconds boil time isn't enough to make it worth while. Seems like more of a gimmick than anything. Harder to nest pots, and takes more space.
I have a question unrelated to cooking. I always enjoy your videos.
How do you address security at your campsites and/or have you done some videos in the past on this issue? I mean carrying a handgun is always a good idea but doesn't address all security concerns, especially if you are sleeping in the middle of no where. Have you thought about using Kevlar line as a perimeter trip wire / warning system? Maybe the wire will also deter some animals. I mentioned Kevlar line because it's light weight, extremely strong, fire resistant, and has extra use case uses, similar to paranoid but lighter and stronger in some instances. My other question is safety from hunters. I don't see you ever wearing any bright colors when camping. Is that because you don't camp during hunting seasons or the areas you camp at don't allow hunting. I. Learned there about about one thousand accidental hunting shootings each year with about 100 deaths. What are your recommendations? Thank you.
So the greenpeak is FMS-119 on the FM site and it's not on amazon. The petrel pot is on amazon. Amazon won't ship the FM stoves, even without fuel, to AK. Go figure.
So what do you gas guys do when you in the bush and run out of gas? I never use gas specifically for that. I guess the heat spreader would be ideal to help preserve your fuel where possible. Still, I’m just burning twigs. Titanium stove light as possible and I don’t have to carry any fuel just use what dry carbon I can find. Always been a firebug so I’ve never had an issue finding my own fuel.
It's extremely unlikely that an experienced, responsible backpacker will run out of gas because they already know how much they're going to need and will pack accordingly. If it does happen the solution is to just build a little fire. The worst thing about using gas is that you end up with a bunch of cans with almost nothing in them and that aren't worth packing. You can buy a transfer valve to dump it all into a single can, but I just hang onto them and use them at home for things like making waxed canvas and coffee when a storm knocks the power out. The best thing about gas is that you don't get covered in that stinky smoke smell which I personally cannot tolerate.
It does suck in the winter, though, because if you don't keep the can warm you'll use up an enormous amount of gas just to boil a little water, but probably most winter backpackers switch to either white gas or alcohol when the temperature starts dipping that low.
No links for reviewed products???
I have a very lw kit..£27.00 ..
Most people cook way to fast to be efficient. Just cook at a very gentle speed and your fuel canister will last a lot longer.
Nice, but Aluminum is not an option
As much as I want to say. You did a good job. It's fire maple.... That's a company that doesn't seem to mind selling us dangerous gear. I do not care if this one is a good one. I will not support that brand.
Cheese. Petrel. Cheese.