Americans Now Love Osama Bin Laden Because Of TikTok...
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2023
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I view this similarly to how people look at Ted Kazinski and Industrial Society and it's Future.
Their adtions are indefensible, but their rationale is sound.
What?
Their rationale is completely psychotic and is the reason why they did those actions. Why did he pin this? It's unbelievably ironic for a career gamer to say Ted Kaczynski's rationale is sound, as well. You wouldn't have a job if it were up to him.
@@USS_SentinelThis is coming from someone who has read excerpts from both pieces of text.
Note: I'm not condoning their actions and this is coming from a Muslim.
However, I am in a position where I cannot argue with either of them. If you take a look at the state of American society over the last 22 years, they have a point.
For people who are confused on who Ted is I recommend wendigoons video on him
"Israel bombing Gazan children is indefensible, but their reason why is sound." You know you're pure evil, right?
The amount of people justifying 9/11 is making me lose thousands of braincells
Probably because of Hasan
And how you gonna justify what the us did to the Middle East and what Israel has been doing to Palestine? Cause the west has done a lot worse than what happened on 9/11.
Because Mossad did it
Yeah but at the same time you had NeoCons defending Guantanamo bay, the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Just feels like people are sticking to their camps which makes sense
@@Muqaddim Obviously you don't take it out on civilians
“More rights are given to criminals than their victims.”
-The Patriots MGS2
Real life is just becoming metal gear at this point.
Who would have known that MGS2 would have predicted the future back in 2001
@@Vicy5Modapk”life imitates art”
@@NotSolidSnake- shows how timeless that game and Deus Ex Machina is.
Such a great game. I know Solidus didn’t say that quote, but golly was he right. Probably one of my favorite villians/characters of all time….
The idea that Americans are justifying 9/11 makes me support the 2nd amendment even more
You agree you should be able to retaliate or take action when your life is threatened? X coup of 1953, stealing the oil farms from them and bankrupting the country and people for 50 years 😂. This is no different than hamas. Being American isn't a status symbol anymore take them rose colored glasses off gang
Why you act like the 9/11 event wasn’t shady at all? Lots of things happened before and after that as if someone knew something. I am not trying to be a conspiracy theorist but you can’t deny there are some legit questions still unanswered..
@@maxbelfort9081 Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. Thermite certainly can, though.
How you know if it was what you thought, but what America is a clown show
@@2A_W3ND1G0you are a sheep who belives whatever the government feeds you sad.
This isn't entirely stupidity or entirely TikTok's fault.
These people are choosing to be willfully ignorant, and some just straight-up support terrorism.
Finally someone that understands it not the app fault but instead it the people that doesn't listen or learn
With how radical Americans have gotten in the past decade alone, is it really surprising that being pro-terrorism isn't an uncommon position to hold?
It's trendy to hate america smh
Bro, everyone with sound minds agrees that the events of 9/11 are unacceptable, and am an American and Muslim. My religion don't accept hostility to people and killing them, on the contrary, demands that evil be replaced with good.. But, did u ask about reason for those events? Did u ask who would make u have a reaction if there wasn't one? An act that causes it? Everyone knows that our government, because of its foreign military intervention with Middle Eastern countries in Iraq and the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, and its participation in killing innocent people and children with our tax money and we vote for it, has made us a hated country and a target for extremists and terrorism.
It's 100% on tik tok. It needs to be banned.
Last time i checked, i did not love Osama Bin Laden. And i dont plan to anytime soon
💯💯💯
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He was a terrorist through and through but our government paid him to be a martyr
Nor does anyone with at least one fully-functional brain cell. People who are sadly an endangered species nowadays
@Hadfield15 out society is a bunch of brainless dead fish
I'm in high-school, I read those letters and sat there thinking to myself "why do people like this guy now?" Optimus gave a wonderful explanation: the school system is dumbing people down.
Good on you for caring about the truth and avoiding indoctrination by the schools and media. Keep your mind open!
What about the letter made you say we shouldn't like him? I just want you to quote or use points/counterpoints from only the letter not what happened outside the writing on the pages. Respond as if you only have these pages and the knowledge you have about the people he mentioned but without taking any one side in the conflicts or using what actions you believe he took.
Nah that’s a really dumb take of you, people are just realizing that the history we were taught in school is just fearmongering by the older generation who messed up foreign affairs
and the fact that we pump kids full of mind numbing drugs to the point they act and talk like a literal NPC saying the same thing over and over again and agreeing with everything. I should know because it happened to me in 2007-2012, pumped full of Seroquel and walking and talking like a zombie and some weeks passing in the blink of an eye and its still happening to kids across the nation
Ooh but flordia doesn't count huh fool?
This why history courses are important, that way theres less uneducated idiots who take a small essentially irrelevant piece of info and turn a monster into a saint.
Unfortunately most people consider it “useless” because they won’t use it in their life.
I mean, the entirety of US education is scuffed, and only rots your brain, I am a huge history guy, but the history they “teach” in schools aren’t even good, like every other subject they just rot your child mind, I’m fourteen, and my brain is jacked! (Fortunately I do homeschooling)
@@Struzzzmann For the most part yeah. Considering schools decide to hide certain topics, or just give a general overview. Luckily I had pretty good History teachers in high-school for the most part, and they didn't water things down as much. Though that's gonna be changing soon since during my final year there they were already beginning restricting teachers on the topics they can cover because of how graphic it is which is bs.
@@lukessjackson7005same here
@@anotherfriendlyshikikan6960kill me
Politics on TikTok literally gives me brain damage, I can feel the IQ points and the sanity leaving me. No matter which side you are on, there’s just so much radicalization going on it’s terrifying. Seriously, I cannot stress this enough, it’s terrifying.
I just know exactly how you feel man.
As a middle Eastern man this is all sorts of funny americans screaming at us for the past 10/20 years about how horrid monsters we are just for them to turn around and call him a good guy
Looks pretty normal to me. This is no different than people saying Stalin and the other guy were the good guys.
@@headshotmaster138 am just saying its funny
@@zippydastrangeyeah man they should let go through our own dark age ifcwe go that way
@@youngbloodbanana3376 so am I.
@@headshotmaster138 welcome to the club man
I'm a muslim that lives outside of American soil, and even i know what the guy had done is f'ed up and what he want is not worth the life his group take.
Like Marcus Garvey messed up to right or Malcolm x. Just like John brown messed up. Anytime anyone goes against nato or US elites 💀. We live in a country of entertainment and politics and 80 % of them went to Epstien Island. Now I'm supposed to believe what they want me too. If they have been saying certain ppl are evil and in that same sentence actually getting caught doing evil I do not believe them.
I like that you say "even" you know, it's like it's a big shocker or something, well done for thinking 9/11 was bad.
@@GrandDawggy There's still people who think Muslims are bad guys or that they're terrorists
@@GrandDawggymost likely have to say that because they are Muslim. You know the US has *quite* a history of hating an entire race just because a big perpetrator is from that race.
@GrandDawggy he has to make it a point because some Brain dead Americans blame all muslims
These are the same people who claimed a murderer was too cute for jail.
Or how they "felt sorry" for Jeffrey Dahmer
It’s funny because that looks sane compared to this.😭✋
As a Canadian, it is crazy to me that this is happening just because your enemy recognizes the problems of your country and the wrong doings of its internal struggles doesn’t mean anything. The Soviet union did the same thing with the United States throughout the Cold War constantly calling out the United States for its rapid racism against African-Americans at the time does that mean we should all think that the USSR is better?
Ussr were hypocrites considering their treatment to the Ukrainians, and other eastern countries that they controlled it’s laughable they call out america racism when they starved ukriane
pretty much this. People often forget the likes of the USSR tripped itself into the same pitfalls that the americans were stuck in during the cold war. The difference is that once hostilities began to decline, soviet institutions proved ineffective in the modern age and the union collapsed.
Turns out democracy was always key for a more stable society, regardless of the economic following.
@@manipulatortrashyea
The irony being that the USSR was just as if not more racially discriminatory.
@@manipulatortrashthere has not been many communist countries that haven’t been directly interfered with by the US. No one has been allowed to try
Remember when social media wasn’t as popular and TikTok wasn’t a thing?
Good times…. My goodness this is disgusting
Yep
Disgusting doesn’t even begin to put it lightly.
Ah yes, the good old days. Can't we just go back in time real quick and erase TikTok?
When it was easy to control population? Good ol' times
Now we can make shorts in the comments
Tik Tok and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race
It's never been tiktok buddy.
Boutta cook up sum NyQuil chicken 🍗 😂 and go stack some milk crates up and sell some sauce out the back of my fridge to everyone ☠️😭
@@Tokin_Alien people fr believe millions of people did that💀👎
why does optimus have some of the most dramatic supporters 😭
I mean thats what the prc planned to happen all along, splinter America, make it weak. Then subjugate us.
The tyranny of the prc is a cruel one.
I like how these people are literally justifying arguably the worst thing to happen on US soil, and then turn around and be so clueless as to why they’re getting hate and backlash.
@@AnasMller I guess the word “arguably” went completely over your head, didn’t it?
@@alexhulsebos5401oh here we go
The arguably part is just straight up false, the earthquake in 1906 killed at least 10000 people and made over 300000 people lose their homes.
You can say that the Twin Towers was a tragedy, but it's not even the worst tragedy that's ever happened in September 11, nor can you say it's the worst thing to happen in US soil.
You can say it the tragedy that people in USA are most aware of, that one would be valid.
Bush did 9/11
Well these are the same people who support palestine so..
The amount of people who glorifies the man responsible for the 9/11 attacks is both disgusting and concerning
Was he really responsible tho? Considering the US Gov was funding Al Qaeda at the time…
@@firstnamelastname956I lost brain cells reading this.
I remember we actually covered 9/11 and the war. Did they remove it from the history books?😂😂😂
@@logger22bro liked his own comment
@@logger22you had no brain cells to lose buddy. Do your research
I really hate the current state of social media
Same here
Me too😢
Was it at the good state from the start?
@@kero-soma3352Most were, its as more and more people started using it younger and younger is when it got out of control. The old days of UA-cam are absolutely nothing like UA-cam now.
@@kero-soma3352not nearly as bad as this. People have been dumbed down so quickly
might be the craziest title I’ve seen from an Optimus video 😂
Almost sounds like a title you'd see in a meme screenshot
@@mr.whimsic6902 right?😂
Till a week later when america goes the next step in full rattard
Ong
Honestly
This is proof why the american education system needs a revamp
The American everything needs a revamp
@@jarrodedson5441American everything???? Never heard of it, is it a new show?
@@dominicsouthern7672I mean everything related to America such as the political system, the justice system, the education system, the corporations especially
It’s working just as intended. If you dumb down the system enough to push everyone through, everyone is “educated” enough to start working sooner
@@jarrodedson5441 Nah our judicial branch at the federal level is one of the saving graces we have. Prison reform and stuff like that I agree though. Cronie capitalism is getting out of control too.
Every time I feel like my faith in humanity cannot get any lower, something happens to immediately prove me wrong.
Always remember that the media only wants you to see the worst
Not the best
There are many good things they just aren't shown because bad things bring more clicks
@@mr.manguyfellow1591what do you mean by this are you agreeing with bin laden?
@@amongus7127 No, he's saying that there are still good people, and several good things happening, out in the world, but the media focuses on the bad things, because that gets better numbers, and brings them more money
No! Why would I ever do that!?@@amongus7127
@@amongus7127"are you agreeing with bin laden" are you illiterate?
I always tell them the same thing: "Since you love them so much, how about you go join them? I'm sure they won't just beheäd you for being from America or anything like that..."
pretty sure the wont
I dare them to say that to someone who was affected directly by 9/11 see how long till they get some hands in their face.
I guarantee they wouldn't last a second in new York if they are saying sht like this
@@geraldthegoose1685
New York?
How about try anywhere outside in a public space.
free speech until feelings get hurt
Do they still have hands and legs?
Yea they won’t last 3 seconds saying that to someone who survived the towers falling.
As an Indian whose country has suffered a lot from these terrorists' actions , I can only say that people are becoming brain dead nowadays.
How you know if it was terr0rists
lol aren't you guys terrorizing minorities in your country ?
@@NativeFeatureshe is a lindu 🐄
@@CashNGold Don't know what that is tbh
Then you don't know
My father joined the Marines after 9/11 I joined the Army when I was old enough we both fought these people and now our own “countrymen” are praising this POS nothing but another slap in the face by an ungrateful nation
It's not our "countrymen" it's entitled privileged Gen Z people who have never worked a day of genuine hard work in their lives. Any real working man hates Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
They're not countrymen, they're the ones who think they're "suffering" living in America and think it would be better to leave...... plus they have Tik Tok brain rot
Ironic when they're the same kind of people that showed disrespect towards muslims for the crimes that the guy did
@@Slenderslayer351 I mean...no. That was twenty three years ago. Most of tiktok is younger than 9/11 is.
Most of them aren’t praising him but recognizing that America is a terroist organization in itself that has created more terrorist organizations. For example ISIS and when people say America deserved 9/11 they mean it as the country not the people. It was the result of their actions in the Middle East
bro even middle eastern kids doesnt like osama bin laden
nah, they do, usually the yond ones. but majority don't like him, but not for reasons you think
trust me they hate him, first and the main reason is that he uses our religion to make war (since im half syrian and half Philippines and raised in a islamic household with lets say free doings and acceptions but any way its like how some families or specific people use religion to control and abuse and have power, its in every religion@@IbnWobbler
@@IbnWobbler Why don't the muslim teens like him then?
That is surprising?😨😨
@@The_silliest_silly_ Propaganda will do that
Tiktok is a Chinese weapon
People have a voice on tiktok lol
The Chinese are pretty smart then
@@beavis6157it's not the lack of censorship, it's the fact that it dumbed down the population
@@Sanchez.BasadoPretty devious, pretty nefarious. Could also say they weaponized Covid in a way as well by lying about how serious it was until it spread everywhere.
That doesn't make sense and also it banned in China not even the political leader can use it
I can't imagine the face of all the souls who died in the 9/11 looking at our generation now saying they love Osama Bin Laden.
I dont think they love him they just have a different point of view like me for instance im not a democrat nor republican im on neither side its called critical thinking
Supporting bin laden means your critical thinking skills have failed you.
@@BlargeAdamthey are literally defending a TERRORIST
@BlargeAdam "ah he killed 3000 people in one attack alone, but let's have a different view of him guys maybe he's not all bad." Even a broken clock is right twice a day as they say. Just because a terorist pos may have said one thing right doesn't mean he was some sort of wise figure.
Our generation 🤓🤓 it’s only a miniority of critically online people.
No matter the reasoning, when a terrorist group kills a lot of people and writes a love letter about their actions they are still evil to me.
Tiktok really just said: "History is written by the victors.
my best friends' parents are dead because of him(they were killed in the 9/11 attacks on the world trade center in nyc). it so disrespectful and disgusting to know that people are praising him now on social media and on tiktok
well that's the point he argued their millions of civilians died and still dying and you didn't stop or cared but when your people died you suddenly woke up hence proving you understand your language that you talk to world
That’s horrible. But you should find out who really did 9/11. Did you know that he never even took credit for it? He actually denied it. And also, people aren’t praising Osama they are praising what he was saying. Which is the US’s undying support of Isr@el will be it’s undoing. Which is something that is very interesting to say especially on how it applies to our time today. He’s done horrible things and he’s a horrible person, but all this is doing is showing insight to WHY America was attacked, even through the lense of him attacking.
@@MikeChhem what US Army did isn't terrorism?
@@falcon7036nope. It isnt. Justified 100%
@@falcon7036 It is all about two things. Power, and Money. For both sides. No moral ethics for either.
If people are willing to rationalize what terrorists did because their beliefs line up with the terrorists, we should be REALLY concerned about what these same people are capable of rationalizing in the future. Think about that for a second. To them the ends justify the means. These people are saying the quiet part out loud, don't ignore it.
This is a good point
Why you act like the 9/11 event wasn’t shady at all? Lots of things happened before and after that as if someone knew something. I am not trying to be a conspiracy theorist or anything but you can’t deny there are some legit questions still unanswered..
Yeah if people think that us was justified to invade Iraq then we should really be concerned
@@maxbelfort9081 bot
@@bruhsusaltamash8141You should be concerned that these people might rationalize dropping white phosphorus because they felt like it.
No. 9/11 is not justifiable, even with the letter.
cuz 9/11 was done by the governemnt but you live in your bubble and believe eveything the governemnt says to be true
@@user-ue4fh5mv9sand you blindly hate the government.
It’s more of a “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” Situation.
You can agree with what he believes, and some of them might even be correct based on your worldview, but that doesn't make him right for killing thousands and harming tens of thousands more.
Yeah did we maybe stick our hands everywhere? Yes. Does that mean 3000 civilians had to die? No.
Huh, what happened to my comment...? Anyways I was going to agree on that. It doesn't negate the dislike I'm getting towards him.
@@gbalph4 Funny how nobody gonna mention how the USSR and the UK tried colonizing the middle east but only blames America
@@limitedperson your comment gets shadowbanned if you say or use certain words or phrases.
UA-cam doesnt like certain words and phrases.
@@JellyWhopper yeah Sykes-Picot, the Iran saga during WW2, and the Gulf states definitely are theirs for sure.
I said this before in another video about Tiktok but I'm still concerned how bad Tiktok became compared to other social media platforms in such a short timeframe. Like yeah, UA-cam, Twitter, Reddit, ect. has their share of weirdos but Tiktok just seems to breed them at record pace.
Nah I hate Twitter more, but Tik Tok is just borderline. Considering how many videos are short and given with less contexts.
I miss old stable Twatter. Yeah it has a bunch of crazies back then but had gold mines of good content like art stuff and progress updates. Now it's just filled pure politics or crazies everywhere, and it's hard to find the stuff I enjoyed using Twatter for.
Even vine was bad but this… this is just insane TikTok made challenges worse than the cinnamon challenge 😂 NyQuil chicken and what not 🤯🤣 🍗
and always remember it's made by china or something along those lines
TikTok being owned by the CCP it doesn't surprise me they spread lies especially regarding history. I'd love for TikTok to be banned but the bill they kept trying to pass was loaded with what they call ham and would have done more harm than good. It's like Congress doesn't actually want to stop China.
People automatically assume that anyone who agrees with them on whatever is trending (Palestine rn) is automatically a good person and justified of everything they did
People tend to forget that geopolitics is often so nuanced that it's usually not so easy to determine who the bad guy is (if there is any). It's just people simplifying things to black and white, making false dichotomies out of that simplification, then doing some mental gymnastics to justify their takes. But yeah, nuances aside, killing civilians is not and should never be justifiable.
As someone that was at the Pentagon on 9/11 this hurts my soul.
This is probably one of the CRAZIEST titles I have seen so far. 💀💀💀💀
😂😂😂😂
The thing people need to accept is that it isn’t a big happy world where we all could get along if we put aside our differences. There are people out there who hate you because you are American and want you to die. Regardless of any other details.
You're equally as impressionable as everyone else. Good grief
@@thedead073 you are too, no one is immune to influence lol. You literally could not be functioning as a human being if you weren't impressionable.
@@manipulatortrash You are absolutely correct on this. But there are ways to make yourself less impressionable beyond being extremely cynical.
This is 100% trüe
The US government will never allow this to happen. Lol they’re responsible for most, if not all, of the wars. Let’s not forget the US funded Al Qaeda during the time…. That’s why it’s important for us working class people to build solidarity with each tower other and overthrow the powers in control.
imagine looking at the deaths of 3300 civilians and saying “hey this terrorist dude’s pretty epic sigma chad red-pilled”
“I can justify terrorism but homophobia and sexism is going too far.” - tiktokers
……..I had to do a double take when I read the title. This had better be a joke
It's hard to tell what is a joke nowadays and people get all pissy when you take what they say seriously when it was "just a joke"
@@mr.manguyfellow1591people are dumb these days and way to sensitive I'm hating this generation were in, I want a time machine to go to the past
Glad I don’t have Tik Tok. Social media is so insane.
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@@impulseelectrobrine1259🤯🔫
@@impulseelectrobrine1259You on drugs?
Devil's Advocate: Most of the people who use TikTok weren't alive/sapient when the towers fell. This is just another thing we'll all forget about in 10 days.
Probably, but it points to a concerning trend of how fukin dumb young people are.
Well, yea, dumb kids being dumb kids.
Bruh I'm Canadian and this honestly enrages me. I was born on Sept 11th, it was a few years before 2001 but still, each birthday I take the time I learn the story of another victim. These were innocent people.
next they'll read Mein Kampt and they'll be like wow hes right about everything
Exactly bro I have people at my school joking around about that stuff, too.
Petition for disney pixar to make “finding osama”
Agree I signed it
Or how about Bin Laden Incorporated
@@jarrodedson5441 snap* Binladdin!
This is like "Thanos did nothing wrong", but worse.
That allegory is scarily accurate to this situation, we had an entire cinematic universe of movies try to warn us about stuff like this.
Of course a master manipulator will skew how people look at their actions, how did you think he got to power?
@@pubertdefrog And here's me thinking that Kira (Death note) did nothing wrong.
@@SpeedBird6780lolo
@@SpeedBird6780 bro are you saying that kira and thanos who killed many people did nothing wrong because of a few TikTok idiots defending a terrorist who also killed many people💀
Bro I saw this on Twitter. He was literally saying that we should be bombed because our laws aren’t based on religious beliefs and people are supporting him. Every single instance of religion and government merging has proven to corrupt them both. It’s a terrible idea for both religion and politics to get involved with each other. Thats not even to mention that he’s clearly against religious freedom…
I DO NOT LIKE OSAMA BIN LADEN ☠️
But he used to work for your precious us country. Soon as he stop working for u all then he's a terrorists when are Americans called terrorists by others?
Based
We're doomed as a society
Now u realizing that?
@@jarrodedson5441 oh I've known. But it can't be said enough
@simplycheezy187 the sad truth is this I've given up on hope long ago on humans and America
It is a world issue. Everyone is messed up to some degree these days. Most people just don't know it.
That's something I have a gripe about the American schooling system. In my years of high school, three-fourths of my history classes were all funneling to World War I/II and the Cold War. I never had a single lesson or assignment from the post-Cold War, the Vietnam war, the conflicts between Korea, what's going on in Africa, and the tensions between the US and the Middle East. I wanted to know how we got to this point in those certain countries, like the Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia. Those I want to know and be informed to why it happened, but these topics were untouched or brushed under the desk. I know nowadays I can easily search it up and research hours on end, but it would have been nice to learn some concepts during those years in high school. A lot of people would have a different perspective on things, like the situation right now.
Makes me glad my father and grandfather forced me to via trickery. They kept giving me a few dollars everytime i gave the a factoid about the history subject they didnt know. 5-10 year ol me tried to milk them dry reading books and articles. Over time it just became genuine interest for knowledge so i can sit and talk with them while working on atuff or playing cards.
Its because every war post WW2 the USA has lost
Ban TikTok. Trust me, the average American IQ will rise.
How about no
I think this is a reaction to how people are just fed up with how our society is. Here's the truth, 9/11 led us to where we are now as a society. And it's not the fact that they're uncapable of searching or finding information, They just don't want to do so. If 9/11 didn't happen the 2000s would have been an extension of the 90s in a lot of ways.
I think it is quite a problem that this reaction is the response to issues with society. It shows how exetremist views have spread and grown on social media to the point of becoming popular due to not only a condemnation of opposing views but outright slander of any outside thought.
Facts. 90s America was optimistic it felt like war and hatred was a thing of the past especially in the Western world. 9/11 just brought back our old mentalities of conflicts and religious fights.
@@akidnamedryan4758 To be honest with the hindsight we have now. The worst thing we ever did was fund the mujahideen because that led to the Radicalization of Osama bin Laden and the hatred for the United States he had. If we didn't form the mujahideen, in turn we wouldn't have indirectly funded Al Qaeda. now granted Osama bin Laden came from wealth, but he couldn't have funded Al Qaeda without our help in the 80s. Part of me thinks this is just gen z Trolling you mean if it is, they perfected the art. I don't think they believe that Osama bin Laden is right on everything though. Just the rampant capitalist part from what I've been able to gleam from looking at these shorts they've posted. Which I will say is a valid criticism, but praising the man is way too far.
maybe but the post 9/11 years were almost the opposite of modern times. and 2000s culture was a result of the rise of the internet .90s culture was from a pre internet world. yea it was invented in the 90s but people don't get stuff as soon as its invented. and 1999 still looks way more similar to 2002 then it does to 1990. 1990 was like the 80s
@@belstar1128 It can be argued that it's not that 2000s culture was the opposite it very well might have been the same we just didn't know it. 9/11 was the catalyst, the financial crisis of 2008 started the skepticism of American society among the populus Then social media Films that void the financial crisis left. Not to be honest it's not that different just less inflammatory.
The loudest voices are often the most ignorant. No one is free from that possibility.
You'd think these kids are just memeing but irony is pretty much lost on most of Gen Z
That ain't even true
As a student in America, I can confirm that we are being failed, all of my friends are preforming at almost a 6th grade level (we are in 9th to 11th grade).
I genuinely believe I have gotten a better education from UA-camrs (you included) than any western school could give to me.
The US should take the example of Europe.
@@darius_alex2043the Goverment thinks thats socialist and communist when its not
TikTok really has become the new Twitter.
TikTok has always been worse than twitter
It rots your brain
Not even close
Or just dumbdumb society
As a Son of a soldier who got deployed after 9/11 this just upsets me. We've lost alot of good friends who loved their country so much they layed down their lives. Even though i disagreed with the war in iraq and Afghanistan im proud of my Dad and hes friends who lost their lives in war. They were hurt seeing those towers fall. Im sorry if im rambling on im hurt about this. This was a rough time for me and my family who couldnt see their father and husband and son on Christmas or easter because he was fighting for us and hes country he loves so dear. My dad is still alive but has a life long stuggle of ptsd .
Sorry to hear your father has PTSD
@@FireHill20 don't be sorry it ain't your fault . It is the Governments fault they send our soldiers to unwinnable wars to die and come back with mental illness but I appreciate you acknowledging my comment . You have a good night friend
@@Werewolf_Division1944 you too and I agree
@Panthers_Fan2023 my heart goes out to your dad, I am always thankful my dad who was in the navy, wasn't deployed there as far as I'm aware
@@Thehudats thanks I appreciate it and I thank your Dad for he's service
They took "Bush did 9/11" too far.
when i was in school he was the reason it was cool to be xenophobic. crazy how times change
Yeah we used to call those people in Iraq many names
I thought this was just going to be an offensive meme people celebrate as a joke, a bunch of people get offended and I would just make a joke about the Putin walk meme
Not people who justify killing a bunch of people and causing a shift in air based transportation
"Nowadays, ignorance is a choice. AND THEY'RE STILL CHOOSING IGNORANCE!!"
~Filthy Frank (Joji)
I think that the statements that America, whether we like it or not, is still a very one-sided country are true, because it is very unforgiving towards minority groups, but people saying Bin Laden was right to commit terrorism is completely devoid of reasoning. And the desired effect for America to change their ways of being capitalist and not being racist didn’t happen, in fact, quite the opposite. Destroying hate (racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.) by committing an act of violence or terrorism isn’t going to make people more reasonable, it’s going to make them quite angry, and quite unreasonable with the person(s) responsible.
In short, trying to destroy racism, hate, and capitalist tendencies (among other things) by committing an act of terrorism is most likely going to have quite the opposite effect.
This is why TikTok needs to be banned here. Let's leave Osama alone.
Yeah because no other social media platform has ever praised an evil person this is the very first time it’s happened
@@underwatermonkey3443 tiktok needs to be banned for more than this. It's just spyware.
@@underwatermonkey3443 TikTok is detrimental to society and it's devastating my generation.
If it does get banned then those tiktokers will move to a different platform then just to ruined those platforms you love like the viners did back in 2017.
Tiktok's probs one of the reasons why society's going downhill
Plus Twitter
Probs? Nah, it's DEFINITELY a reason why society has gone downhill.
Not probably, it is.
Society has being going downhill way before tiktok happened though
@@megamanmegamanmegamanmegam8725no it h🎉
My uncle worked close to the WTC around that time. I’m glad he’s still here. But yeah Osama killed many people from all over the world (including Middle Easterners who weren’t the hijackers) in those towers so I don’t know why people are turning him into a hero. Maybe I’m older and have more personal connections and somewhat care about this a lot.
Everyday I get another reason to think nothing good comes from Tiktok
We need your help! lets ban that blight of an app cousin
Sad part is I'm not even surprised
Obama Bin Chilling
Isn't it amazing how quickly and easily mainstream social media can change public perception?
Tik tok is mainstream media?
@@letsdothisshiat1162 mainstream _"social"_ media 🙄
Funnily enough, I wrote an essay on Bin Laden yesterday. Understanding where he comes from and the context and history of recent wars in Afghanistan. And still, I never once did agree with him or his ideas, if anything it should be a cautionary tale of religious extremism. But what do I expect from people nowadays.
It’s crazy what reading something as simple as a wiki can do.
This is why I hate Tik Tok
U mean why? Not way
@jarrodedson5441 Thank you. I misspelled I was writing too fast and didn't see it.
Luckily with trends die out quite quickly on tiktok like the attention span of the users
It's 2023 AMERICAN PROPAGANDA IS OVER
Propaganda ≠ lies
this why i don't have tiktok or twitter
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America, where criminals have more rights than victims
Sadly that is so true, and I hate it
Rights only apply to the living here
America… where private “property” is valued more than a human life.
Not just in America.
This title is just a painful one to believe is a real thing, until you realize its TikTok...
Yeah that don't surprise me
Yeah, I've seen so many commenters on Tik tok trying to justify 9/11 as well. On Tik tok critical thinking just doesn't exist.
Well that’s because it’s about there Kai cenat what’s it like in Ohio city you’re a thousand miles away but girl tonight you look so skibidi yes you dooooo, fanum tax can’t shine as bright as you oh yes it’s true, hey there Aden Ross you’re the king like nick eh 30 just keep it family friendly and I’ll treat you like a sigma yes I wiiiill, listen to my voice it’s W rizz like baby gronx. Ohhhh it’s what you gyat to meee, ohhh you’re so skibidi
And moral doesn’t exist on tik tok too.
I'm scared out of my mind how dumbed down our society is and I want to thank these people in chat for not being influenced by these idiots. We're going down this roller coaster and it only seems to get deeper every year.
💯💯💯.
No we are not
This feels like an episode of south park...
I don't watch it but I agree
The whole world is an episode of southpark
As a saudi i have a few questions
I’m convinced Tik Tok is a psy-op or something
How is it not a psyop, its owned by china
Everyday I think idiocracy was a prediction that’s coming true
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Bro this title is crazy 😂
Saying bin Laden is a good guy is like saying Stalin is a good guy.
Stalin is based ❤
I mean he was based most of the time
I’ve learned that people will justify literally anything as long as it aligns with their interests.
I always knew Laden was a real one once they found his steam account
If you're able to put the pieces together of who bennefited the most from 9/11, the consequences of which you yourself laid out, you may be able to discover the real culprits...
Don’t loose hope, there’s still some Americans here who don’t support Osama Ben Laden like me and people who call out the stupidity of TikTok.
Imagine discovering that a psychopath shared your opinions and having your "worldview" destroyed instead of thinking, 'maybe there's something wrong with me'
I hate that im lumped in with a generation of dummies 💀
yea im probably those dummies ong
Every generation has their dumba$$es
U and me both, I feel like I'm surrounded by idiots
@@t700eyeah well this generation takes the cake
Don't blame yourselves. It is the parents that are supposed to instill good values. The adults have gotten lazy, and selfish, and it rubbed off on their off springs.
the worst part too is there are a small group that want absolute freedom, without realizing this is what it looks like in effect they will just eat it up to suit their ends regardless of the body count
This is what happens when parents let the internet parent their kids
Tiktok is to Zoomers what Facebook is to Boomers.
Yup. Like father, like son. Good job parents
Baby boomers didn’t have Facebook
@@erickghoul174 They started using it before TikTok came out right?
@@erickghoul174yeah but boomers are on Facebook the most.
“if all of the dead or alive soldiers could see their countries now, they would have thrown their weapons and fought with the germans.”
- David Irving
Didn't expect to see a quote like this on Optimus's channel of all places.
Great to see man. 👍
No, that’s not good either.
David Irving is a holocaust denier 💀
@@xandercrews4729 Really it sounds more like a complete abandonment of hope
The level of stupidity on TikTok and twitter is borderline cancer. The inability of the general public to think for themselves today is astounding. It’s very similar to how a guy with a now famous weird little mustache was able to sway (deceive) an audience into committing an ultimate evil under the guise of world wide “perfection”.
fun fact osama bin ladin played counter strike
Does anyone know what his steam account name was ? Because that was insane when they found that
@@kobra6660 I'm sure an intelligence agency told steam to scrub it and they did. There's also a weird picture of Osama with his family in the 70s when he was young. They're all dressed like American hippies in bright colors and parachute pants.
These sound like the type of people who simp for serial killers.
Basically like saying the leader of Germany in 1939-1945 was a good guy. Cant even say his name on this app.
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@americanchristiannationalist 18 million people from 1933-1945 would disagree
@@TheTrex9000It was 11 Million but yes, we was an absolute waste of space.
@americanchristiannationalistHe murdered 11 Million people you failed abortion.