when he said “I love my granddaughter but just as a granddaughter, nothing more” I knew he was guilty af. Like why does that need to be said unless an other option exists.
Yea, the mom sounds like a huge scumbag. How could you not warn your daughter to keep her child away from him if she really believed he molested his own kids? That she had to find out now after suspecting he abused her child is just crazy. I just don't understand people.
My heart broke for her when her father said he had been accused of touching her when she was a child and had to do legal stuff about it. He just dug the knife in deeper, and I wanted to hug her through the screen.
I want to know why they didn’t test him and ask if he had molested his daughter in the past as well? 🤔 that would have been extreme proof and show he’s obviously a serial offender I think
He said her mother and siblings accused him of molestation.. nobody ever told this girl about it? Ever? Even when she started using drugs and left her kid there? Omg
@@toosense exactly, it sounds like her whole family failed her by not warning her and letting her child be molested like she most likely also was as a kid.
Seeing her reaction to this was gut wrenching. She's so strong for pulling herself together and going back onstage to get answers for her daughter. She's made mistakes in the past but she'll be a good mom. I can't imagine how difficult it must've been for her.
As soon as he said his ex wife accused him of the same thing with his own children MY JAW DROPPED AND I KNEW RIGHT THEN HE IS GUILTY!. I hope she get them to charge him again.
To have it confirmed that you were sexually abused by your father and that he did the same thing to your daughter….. my heart breaks for her. Her addiction stemmed from him. So glad that she’s clean and getting her life back together away from that piece of sh**.
The fact that the jury or a judge did not find Ray guilty in the first place that means somebody wasn’t doing their job correctly . I bet after this they would’ve found him guilty and he would be sent to prison . What kind of grandpa does that to a grandchild ? It’s just sick in every way .
I bet Ray paid off the judge or jury to help sweep this under the rug. Just a hunch, but there are rare chances that the guilty will pay off any law officials to get them a "Free Get Out of Jail" card.
He probably hurt his daughter when she was little causing trauma. That can lead to addiction later in life. Then he DOES IT AGAIN! And gets away with it cause you know “ she’s an addict so you gonna believe someone like HER” ??? Monster
@@blueeyedbeauty7330 I agree. Even if she didn’t have the full memory I think she knew what he was capable of. Because if I saw my kid in a room naked The thought my dad hurt her wouldn’t cross my mind. I know the man. Just like she knew who this monster is.
Not just addiction but blocking parts of her memories while having emotional responses she can't explain, hence victims of traumatic events tend to get addicted to all kinds of stuff.
Y'all know dope fucks with your head and makes yall believe shit that didn't/hasn't happened right.....not defending him by any means, but Y'all chocking up her addiction to abuse is funny. Truth is people get addicted to things because they have an addictive personality. They don't get clean or stay clean because the dope to them is more important than their loved ones. It's only when they put their loved ones first that they can get clean an stay clean.
The sheer sadness of the daughters face when she heard her dad say her mom accused him of touching her, oh man that was heartbreaking. I hope he rots in prison.
Unfortunately that may not happen. He's already been tried and found not guilty of touching his granddaughter. He cannot be tried for it again because of double jeopardy laws. As for touching his daughter when she was a child, there could be a statute of limitations in that case that has long expired. Nevertheless, the guy is a creep and should rot in Hell
That is a good thing that he gives you the creeps, in prison he would be called out immediately for his paperwork, at least down south or on the west coast, not so much on the east coast or up north.
The audience cheered so loud when they heard she tested negative on the entire drug test and that is exactly how we should react when addicts get clean it’s a process and it’s hard. Congratulations to her for getting sober!!
The way her face fell when she heard that he was accused of touching her broke my heart for her. How could her mother be negligent in allowing her to continue a relationship with that monster, having a daughter around him, and she NEVER MENTIONS IT?!
@@taisheramedley9595 can’t even blame the justice system it was just a horrible jury sad but it happens too bad you can’t appeal a non guilty in this case due to new evidence
The problem is that a lie detector test isn't admissible in court, and a jury has to use the standard of "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" to convict somebody.
@@ScottOSaurus she didn't align an entire gender to anything. She said 'so many men' not all and what she said is true. Why must you get offended instead of acknowledging the statement? Why can't you just take it in and reflect on it instead of getting defensive? We aren't talking about women. The Grandfather wasn't a woman, he was a man. Not excusing the women who do this either, it's disgusting, but of course you just felt the need to bring women into it when it has nothing to do with the topic. Of course women do this too, everyone knows that but you're taking away from the issue at hand. This is about this little girl and the children, male and female, who get sexually abused, please don't make is about something else.
@@Hinatachan360 yes there are and that is 10000% valid but they’re saying that it’s mostly men & there’s proof in the percentage AGAIN sexual assault is disgusting on both genders and valid but that’s basically what this person is tryna say
How dare this sick dude ever in his life talk like that about his daughter. And not only that, it's a shame that he was proven not guilty for it. But the lie detector test came out that he did do it. And not only that he's a sick dude. He's also a coward
Yep, just because you're acquitted doesn't mean that you are innocent. I mean look at OJ. Who the hell writes a book called if I did it if they're innocent?
This dude is freaking siiiiiiick!! I know he can't be tried again, because of double jeopardy, but I'm hoping the charges dropped can be brought back up because of this episode.
I hope someone deals with him extra-judicially. The courts obviously can't be trusted with it, abusers get off all the time. He needs to be dealt with permanently.
@@robynwolph3836 that's the sickest part of this law. Like that dude could literally admit to it and say yep got away with it and he couldn't be recharged
And your right but there's way's around it sometimes, for instance they dropped charges which means they weren't presented to the Judge and Jury in a court of Law so technically they can open a new case with no problem and I'm assuming the charges they dropped had some weight to them, he's definitely not out of the woods yet with the Law they just have to worry about the type of jurors they find cause apparently their either dumber then a bucket of shrimp or blind on purpose either way I hope she finds justice and some peace...💯💪
I love Courtney. I love her courage. I love her determination. I love her willingness. I love her willingness to fight not only her father but her addiction for her child. Hang in there girl. My mom fought her addiction for us and she’s been clean for over 20 years. Your child will really appreciate you when they get older. I’m sorry you had such a disgusting dad and you guys had to go through this. I ask that you hold tight to your child so that she doesn’t feel like she has to turn to other outlets to cope. You are a great mother. Yes you made mistakes but you got up and you did better and for that I can only say good things to you! I pray one day for you for yourself that you guys can forgive the hurt and pain you guys went through. Forgive yourself also for the mistakes in addiction you made. But I’m proud, very proud that you stood up and beat you addiction and did it for you child. The system may have failed your baby but you haven’t failed her and she’ll need you always. ♥️♥️
He literally said “I paid my lawyer and told him I’m not going down”. Me: he is a liar 🤥 and definitely did it. Lie detector test - he did NOT tell the truth. Me? Not shocked. Poor woman and poor baby… Steve you need to do another lie detector test to see if he abused his own daughters. Actually don’t bother. He did it.
This Ray guy was giving off some major red flags, ESPECIALLY that "I paid a lawyer and told him I'm not going down!". I feel like he DID pay a Lawyer, but paid him to make Ray look like an innocent victim! Most lawyers CAN and WILL make up lies to save the asses of the Guilty parties.
You can tell Courtney is being genuine. One thing that really stood out was her admitting that she was on drugs in that one situation. I'm glad she got clean and is being the best mother she can. Also, any grandparent who says they love their grandkid as a grandkid and nothing else is VERY sus.
Worst part is there is obviously evidence of sexual abuse and no one took the time to go wait we may be wrong here. Our systems fucked and I hope he gets what’s coming for him.
She showed great restraint when all she said was "you're going to burn in hell", and even then she hesitated to say that, I would have said and done a lot worse if that happened to me.
She might have messed up by doing drugs but she is such a wonderful person and passionate mother. My heart hurts for her and her child. This episode is all over the place. The judge and jury didn’t do their job right, they judged her for doing drugs and didn’t even look at the case. As soon as he came on he said he wanted a dna test, his past about him being accused about sa his own daughter, and him coming down on her for doing drugs. I just knew he was guilty when I heard the way she was talking about the situation. You know that hurt her heart. They should have given him a test to see if he sa her too. I hope they get justice ❤️
This is a brave and honest woman. To have a life so full of chaos and confusion_ but to be so firm in this and consistent with her own kid without the skills and parenting to know how, she's tried her very best and I respect her greatly. I hope and pray for her and the kiddy.
This beautiful mother is HURTING. She’s trying her hardest to be honest with everyone and herself and you can tell she only wants what is best for her children. I pray that she and her child/ren and safe and in a good place now.
@@Lavender_Cordle Actually his daughter said there were charges that were dropped which means if the case is reopened and they get a hold of Dan's test he administered they can charge him with a bigger charge meaning he could get more time than the other charges he was wrongfully acquitted of.
@@Wrestlinggirl48 unfortunately lie detector tests are inadmissible in court so him failing cannot be used against him since lie detectors aren’t 100% accurate and the science and legitimacy behind them is arguable P.s. I think he did it and I think the lie detector test was accurate but it isn’t an exact science
Being an ex addict doesnt make anyone a bad person. If a person can overcome that and come out being a better mom like she did. Deserves a second chance. We are all humans and make mistakes. She admitted that and did something to change it. Im pissed that whoever did that trail, didn't take that into consideration.
I mean, she was on drugs while she had her kids, who knows what might’ve happened. As the child of abusive druggies I can’t help but feel less sympathy there.
Aww, I just wanna hug her when she found out about her mom accusing him about sexual allegations towards him. She broke for a bit. I’d saw it’ll hit even harder later. 🥺
Pure heart break when she realised he dad could’ve done it to her too. Congratulations on her sobriety she’s so amazingly strong and I wish only the best for her and her daughter. The dad/grandad can rot in jail/hell.
Hey Steve, Is there an update about this daughter and her father? I am curious what happened with them and if the little girl got justice. I am proud that Courtney has been clean I hope she stayed clean! Please give us an update on this episode. :)
Well update is I did relapse after show it was a bad one. But today I have 2 weeks clean from meth and 6 months from alcohol. Honestly everyday memories come up of my childhood. The important thing is the truth is out there though about my daughter. For me it's one day at a time. I'm now living back in Wyoming and trying my best to be the best mom I can be!!!!!!!
@@courtneyfrederick2483 god bless you Courtney and praying for you wishing you all the healing. You did the right and best things for you and your children and got your story out there.
I had 3yrs clean wasnt easy at all i had a slip up but im back to being clean again just watch who u r around n where u r U CAN DO IT GIRL UR WORTH IT! WE R DOIN IT FOR OUR SELFS KEEP IT UP BABY...U GOT THIS SHOW HOW STRONG U R!!
Christ... the things people saying thinking it will make them look good. He really thought he scored a point when he said her mother accused him of molesting her. He really thought that was going to convince people he was telling the truth. When in reality it made him look so bad. Some people just have no social barometer...
The look on her face when he said "her mother accused him of it when she was young"... Like she really didn't know .. That's fucked up for him to try it again on his granddaughter... I'm glade she got the evidence she needed to get him away from any other child....
@@bunnybubson1665 I hope she shows them proof of this and sue the juror and judges for saying not guilty. They let a criminal go away. Goes to show you can’t rely on the public for a judge’s work. Too many biasnesses that play a part in wrongfully sentencing or releasing a person. Should have people that has worked in the field of police or law or even detective work instead of a “novice civilian because they pay taxes”
Now she's going to be questioning if she was also hurt for the rest of her life. This is heartbreaking. I hope her and her kids are doing amazing now. Bravo for her cleaning up and being the best momma she can be!
I pray that Jesus heals the mother and the daughter and that he has mercy on the father. He needs to accept the demon that circulating him and ask to be delivered because this is one worst crimes EVER against humanity. No sin is greater than another but taking the innocence of a child is horrible in so many ways. May Jesus Christ of Nazareth bless us all ❤️
In most prisons he would be protected nowadays, these kind of people should never make it to prison , free world people should stand up and start removing the trash from our streets.
This is so sad and sickening, and her face when she finds out he could have done something to her..... Probably contributing to why she's an addict, must be beyond devastating on so many levels 😢.Also it feels so uncomfortable to give a thumbs up to a video like this, but it's a thank you for providing the clip, but still makes me feel guilty in a weird way 😕
Nah, everything about this screams that he did it. The mom stopped doing meth because she felt so much guilt for letting her daughter get hurt by this man, that is a HUGE sign. And this isn't the first time he's been accused?! Awful.
I feel so bad for the mother she shouldn't blame herself I hope the "judge" get fired and there is special place in hell for people that are like this man
He did the same thing he did in court. Instead of facing up to the accusations he threw her under the bus using her drug use and possibly not being her dad as as deflection from his guilt. The system has failed, again.....BIG SHOCKER!!!! "My daughter Courtney is a piece of shit mom!" says the grandpa who was accused and failed a lie detector test.
The SECOND I heard his voice and then saw his face, I immediately saw that this man is a predator… his whole look and personality, especially the way he spoke about his own daughter, told me everything I needed to know. I’m an addict and I know how incredibly difficult it is to get clean. I commend this woman for her bravery and the way she continues to fight for justice for her child. I hope they get closure!!!
Same thing happened to my daughter. The jury also found my ex father in law not guilty too. I believe my daughter and can't believe they let him go free.
I’m so sorry this young mum has gone through such a horrific ordeal due to having a disgusting perverted father and now her little girl has to have such sick memories of what he did to her🤢. I’m very proud of her for getting clean from her addiction and fighting for her children🌸don’t let this ruin how far you’ve come by relapsing🙏🏻your a survivor and your children will be so proud of you as they grow up and realise how you fought for them💕much love and best wishes🌸
For those of you wondering: “The same charges can be brought against you again after they were dismissed or reduced, unless they were dismissed with prejudice (which is very rare), or they were dropped after jeopardy had attached (in other words, if they dropped the charges after the trial had already begun: after witnesses were sworn in a bench trial, or after the jury was impaneled at a jury trial).” -James D. Cormier, Criminal Defense Attorney
She's been so honest, even when those type of facts can cause so much negative judgement. You just know she was right and he was wrong. I'm proud of her for doing her best for her daughter
I hope that every single person out of the Jury will see this Episode and I hope that they would feel bad about them self for believing to the evil monster!!!
Imagine a grown ass man especially one that looks like him coming at you as a child....that's sickening....I can only imagine the fear and discomfort that baby faced at the hands of this chomo
Him: “My daughter is a piece of shit mother.”
Me: *He did it.*
I saw the thumbnail and thought he did it why would her head be between her knees
Same vibe as first impressions court on snl
Same
for real 🤢 what kind of sicko calls his own daughter a piece of shit
He knew what he did that's why he failed
when he said “I love my granddaughter but just as a granddaughter, nothing more” I knew he was guilty af. Like why does that need to be said unless an other option exists.
If that’s not a red flag I don’t know what is. No normal person would say that.
He said it like 2 times 😒😒😒 POS!!!
@Jordan Sherrington exactly.
I thought the same thing suspect
Came here to say exactly this. A liar will expose themself by answering a question that was never asked.
The way that woman's face crumpled when she found out her mum accused him of molesting her broke my heart
Yea, the mom sounds like a huge scumbag. How could you not warn your daughter to keep her child away from him if she really believed he molested his own kids? That she had to find out now after suspecting he abused her child is just crazy. I just don't understand people.
@rozina. Unless she died when she was still a child then she should have warned her daughter to keep him out of her life.
Her face said it all so hea💔
Yea it’s tragic and jury trials aren’t exactly accurate when they deliver verdict
@@enderthexenocide760 u don’t know if her mom is still alive .!
My heart broke for her when her father said he had been accused of touching her when she was a child and had to do legal stuff about it. He just dug the knife in deeper, and I wanted to hug her through the screen.
Same here...that poor girl had no idea he was accused of it.
I want to know why they didn’t test him and ask if he had molested his daughter in the past as well? 🤔 that would have been extreme proof and show he’s obviously a serial offender I think
He said her mother and siblings accused him of molestation.. nobody ever told this girl about it? Ever? Even when she started using drugs and left her kid there? Omg
@@toosense exactly, it sounds like her whole family failed her by not warning her and letting her child be molested like she most likely also was as a kid.
Seeing her reaction to this was gut wrenching. She's so strong for pulling herself together and going back onstage to get answers for her daughter. She's made mistakes in the past but she'll be a good mom.
I can't imagine how difficult it must've been for her.
"She needs a grandpa in her life; and I'm the only one."
How SICK is this man!
I grew up with only one grandpa as well (he died when I was almost 13). He never said stuff like this.
As soon as he said his ex wife accused him of the same thing with his own children MY JAW DROPPED AND I KNEW RIGHT THEN HE IS GUILTY!. I hope she get them to charge him again.
Can't due to double Jepordy.
ong same
@@horrorstuff1350 that's the thing her mum accused him. I wonder if she can now 🤔
It’s very common that when grandparents touch grandkids they touched their actual kid
@@horrorstuff1350 There is loophole. The charges they dropped he can be tried for.
To have it confirmed that you were sexually abused by your father and that he did the same thing to your daughter….. my heart breaks for her. Her addiction stemmed from him. So glad that she’s clean and getting her life back together away from that piece of sh**.
Yeah 😔
Agreed
The fact that the jury or a judge did not find Ray guilty in the first place that means somebody wasn’t doing their job correctly . I bet after this they would’ve found him guilty and he would be sent to prison . What kind of grandpa does that to a grandchild ? It’s just sick in every way .
He hired a big shot lawyer, he knew that it would get him free
He might’ve fooled the trail but he couldn’t fool his daughter .
I bet Ray paid off the judge or jury to help sweep this under the rug.
Just a hunch, but there are rare chances that the guilty will pay off any law officials to get them a "Free Get Out of Jail" card.
And his own children.
That's very stupid
He probably hurt his daughter when she was little causing trauma. That can lead to addiction later in life. Then he DOES IT AGAIN! And gets away with it cause you know “ she’s an addict so you gonna believe someone like HER” ???
Monster
Right .. That is how she was so sure about her own daughter because what happened with her when she was small
@@blueeyedbeauty7330 I agree. Even if she didn’t have the full memory I think she knew what he was capable of. Because if I saw my kid in a room naked The thought my dad hurt her wouldn’t cross my mind. I know the man. Just like she knew who this monster is.
He just kept victimizing her!!!
Not just addiction but blocking parts of her memories while having emotional responses she can't explain, hence victims of traumatic events tend to get addicted to all kinds of stuff.
Y'all know dope fucks with your head and makes yall believe shit that didn't/hasn't happened right.....not defending him by any means, but Y'all chocking up her addiction to abuse is funny. Truth is people get addicted to things because they have an addictive personality. They don't get clean or stay clean because the dope to them is more important than their loved ones. It's only when they put their loved ones first that they can get clean an stay clean.
Side note: congrats to her on her sobriety!! I was clean for almost 8 months and relapsed. Now I'm back to a month! It is hard! Especially from meth.
Nope. Those 8 months still count! You're 8+1 now. 🥰❤
Here's to smashing out another 8! You got this, baby!
Im proud of you!! It is hard, but you can do it. Look at you, 9 months clean. Keep it up, we're rooting for you, all the way?
Well done 👏
You got this! I’m rooting for you 💪🏼💃🏼
Keep head up you can do it
The sheer sadness of the daughters face when she heard her dad say her mom accused him of touching her, oh man that was heartbreaking. I hope he rots in prison.
Unfortunately that may not happen. He's already been tried and found not guilty of touching his granddaughter. He cannot be tried for it again because of double jeopardy laws.
As for touching his daughter when she was a child, there could be a statute of limitations in that case that has long expired.
Nevertheless, the guy is a creep and should rot in Hell
@@trier4952 she said there were dropped charges. She can get him tried on those hopefully.
He gives me the creeps! The poor mother and daughter. I'm at least happy they have each other thru this.
That is a good thing that he gives you the creeps, in prison he would be called out immediately for his paperwork, at least down south or on the west coast, not so much on the east coast or up north.
We could all tell he was lying just look at how he was acting it's all about body language
The audience cheered so loud when they heard she tested negative on the entire drug test and that is exactly how we should react when addicts get clean it’s a process and it’s hard. Congratulations to her for getting sober!!
The way her face fell when she heard that he was accused of touching her broke my heart for her. How could her mother be negligent in allowing her to continue a relationship with that monster, having a daughter around him, and she NEVER MENTIONS IT?!
Unbelievable!!
Time stamp?
Yeah. That tells me he’s guilty.
@user-lr6eq5fj8v start at 6:35 and right after that
Imagine being a juror on his trial and seeing this episode. That jury really really dropped the ball.
Seriously though. They should’ve known something was fishy when their only defense was the mom was on meth.
@@taisheramedley9595 can’t even blame the justice system it was just a horrible jury sad but it happens too bad you can’t appeal a non guilty in this case due to new evidence
@@ScottOSaurus You can, the criminalisation of addicts IS a fault of the justice system.
The problem is that a lie detector test isn't admissible in court, and a jury has to use the standard of "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" to convict somebody.
@@Vardalon it depends on what state you’re in. In some states it’s fully able to be used
Why are so many men doing this, messing up a childs life for the rest of their life. I send love and healing for the daughter and her daughter.
There are women who do this as well.
How can you malign an entire gender based of the actions of perverts? You do know women get convicted this often as well right?
@@ScottOSaurus she didn't align an entire gender to anything. She said 'so many men' not all and what she said is true. Why must you get offended instead of acknowledging the statement? Why can't you just take it in and reflect on it instead of getting defensive? We aren't talking about women. The Grandfather wasn't a woman, he was a man. Not excusing the women who do this either, it's disgusting, but of course you just felt the need to bring women into it when it has nothing to do with the topic. Of course women do this too, everyone knows that but you're taking away from the issue at hand. This is about this little girl and the children, male and female, who get sexually abused, please don't make is about something else.
@@Hinatachan360 yes there are and that is 10000% valid but they’re saying that it’s mostly men & there’s proof in the percentage AGAIN sexual assault is disgusting on both genders and valid but that’s basically what this person is tryna say
@@Hinatachan360 yes do but mostly men
How dare this sick dude ever in his life talk like that about his daughter. And not only that, it's a shame that he was proven not guilty for it. But the lie detector test came out that he did do it. And not only that he's a sick dude. He's also a coward
Oh he is as guilty as sin, But you really believe in lie detectors when they are proven to be highly inaccurate? What next leprechauns exist?
Yep, just because you're acquitted doesn't mean that you are innocent. I mean look at OJ. Who the hell writes a book called if I did it if they're innocent?
This dude is freaking siiiiiiick!! I know he can't be tried again, because of double jeopardy, but I'm hoping the charges dropped can be brought back up because of this episode.
my thought too! Hope we get an update on this. The daughter gets the help she needs as well as the mother they both keep getting the help they need.
@@stephaniewallace4234 definitely!! I agree so much
I hope someone deals with him extra-judicially. The courts obviously can't be trusted with it, abusers get off all the time. He needs to be dealt with permanently.
Nope they cannot
@@enderthexenocide760 Why don't you do it if your such a bad ass
Hell yes he should be put in jail for what he did for the poor granddaughter
Can't. Due to Double Jeopardy
@@robynwolph3836 that's the sickest part of this law. Like that dude could literally admit to it and say yep got away with it and he couldn't be recharged
@@nanabear6946 exactly
His ass should be in jail! He hurt that little baby and took her innocence away!
Not jail prison
Sadly due 2 double jeopardy they can't retry him for the crime he's already been cleared of. A prime example of how corrupted the system is.
And your right but there's way's around it sometimes, for instance they dropped charges which means they weren't presented to the Judge and Jury in a court of Law so technically they can open a new case with no problem and I'm assuming the charges they dropped had some weight to them, he's definitely not out of the woods yet with the Law they just have to worry about the type of jurors they find cause apparently their either dumber then a bucket of shrimp or blind on purpose either way I hope she finds justice and some peace...💯💪
Exactly, that is the sad part.
In the nineties yes- not now though.
@@Jhoffa22_ I hope they do reopen that case, & throw that scumbag in jail!
@@YorkshireRose2987 You can be retried nowadays?
I love Courtney. I love her courage. I love her determination. I love her willingness. I love her willingness to fight not only her father but her addiction for her child. Hang in there girl. My mom fought her addiction for us and she’s been clean for over 20 years. Your child will really appreciate you when they get older. I’m sorry you had such a disgusting dad and you guys had to go through this. I ask that you hold tight to your child so that she doesn’t feel like she has to turn to other outlets to cope. You are a great mother. Yes you made mistakes but you got up and you did better and for that I can only say good things to you! I pray one day for you for yourself that you guys can forgive the hurt and pain you guys went through. Forgive yourself also for the mistakes in addiction you made. But I’m proud, very proud that you stood up and beat you addiction and did it for you child. The system may have failed your baby but you haven’t failed her and she’ll need you always. ♥️♥️
She's a very strong woman.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
BEAUTIFUL 🌹
Well said! I totally agree.
He literally said “I paid my lawyer and told him I’m not going down”. Me: he is a liar 🤥 and definitely did it. Lie detector test - he did NOT tell the truth. Me? Not shocked. Poor woman and poor baby…
Steve you need to do another lie detector test to see if he abused his own daughters. Actually don’t bother. He did it.
I REALLY wish I would have never read your comment before the video began 🤣😅
@@yogabbagabba9145 sorry!!! I never look at the comments before watching these videos just in case there are spoilers!!!
This Ray guy was giving off some major red flags, ESPECIALLY that "I paid a lawyer and told him I'm not going down!".
I feel like he DID pay a Lawyer, but paid him to make Ray look like an innocent victim!
Most lawyers CAN and WILL make up lies to save the asses of the Guilty parties.
Oh my. A mask with rainbow letters saying “atheist”. Oh wow sounds like a real free thinker there
He did it
Bastard
You can tell Courtney is being genuine. One thing that really stood out was her admitting that she was on drugs in that one situation. I'm glad she got clean and is being the best mother she can.
Also, any grandparent who says they love their grandkid as a grandkid and nothing else is VERY sus.
Absolutely! The guilt she obviously feels is so obvious 🥺
Worst part is there is obviously evidence of sexual abuse and no one took the time to go wait we may be wrong here. Our systems fucked and I hope he gets what’s coming for him.
Trust me, he will when he goes back to wherever he came from. This is why I believe in vigilante justice. Our supposed justice system is broken.
She showed great restraint when all she said was "you're going to burn in hell", and even then she hesitated to say that, I would have said and done a lot worse if that happened to me.
Right. Time to knock him out.
The first “BOO” when the dad came out was hilarious
Child abuse is NEVER OK!!🙅🏽♂️
HeLlA FaCtS My GuY/GiRl
No shit sherlock
well duh.
Thank you woke king
This is beyond child abuse
"you really think I'm a lair???"
"Yes! XD"
She might have messed up by doing drugs but she is such a wonderful person and passionate mother. My heart hurts for her and her child. This episode is all over the place. The judge and jury didn’t do their job right, they judged her for doing drugs and didn’t even look at the case. As soon as he came on he said he wanted a dna test, his past about him being accused about sa his own daughter, and him coming down on her for doing drugs. I just knew he was guilty when I heard the way she was talking about the situation. You know that hurt her heart. They should have given him a test to see if he sa her too. I hope they get justice ❤️
I'm SO GLAD the poor girl got the truth and proof! Now, let's PRAY for the case to be reopened! ✝️
This is a brave and honest woman. To have a life so full of chaos and confusion_ but to be so firm in this and consistent with her own kid without the skills and parenting to know how, she's tried her very best and I respect her greatly. I hope and pray for her and the kiddy.
“GET THE HELL OFF MY STAGE!” is the best quote ever stated.
6:15 Courtney's Drug Test
7:48 Ray(?)"s DNA Test
8:01 Courtney's Lie Detector Test
8:36 Ray(?)'s Lie Detector Test
thank you 😭
Thank you
Thank you bro
thank you bro
People have the attention span of a fly.
This is the Steve we all come to watch and focus on....the wraith of Steve... just the way we like it.....
This beautiful mother is HURTING. She’s trying her hardest to be honest with everyone and herself and you can tell she only wants what is best for her children. I pray that she and her child/ren and safe and in a good place now.
Unfortunately he cannot be tried again because of double jeopardy.
I think that only applies to murder
@@wljj56 no. It’s every charge. You cannot be tried for the same crime more than once.
@@wljj56 no, that is for any charge. Read up on the Bill of Rights.
@@Lavender_Cordle Actually his daughter said there were charges that were dropped which means if the case is reopened and they get a hold of Dan's test he administered they can charge him with a bigger charge meaning he could get more time than the other charges he was wrongfully acquitted of.
@@Wrestlinggirl48 unfortunately lie detector tests are inadmissible in court so him failing cannot be used against him since lie detectors aren’t 100% accurate and the science and legitimacy behind them is arguable
P.s. I think he did it and I think the lie detector test was accurate but it isn’t an exact science
0:38 I cannot believe that a father would say something so bad about his daughter!!!
I can't believe that either
Right ?
Yes, i noticed that too.
My eyes grew three sizes when I heard that
Being an ex addict doesnt make anyone a bad person. If a person can overcome that and come out being a better mom like she did. Deserves a second chance. We are all humans and make mistakes. She admitted that and did something to change it. Im pissed that whoever did that trail, didn't take that into consideration.
I mean, she was on drugs while she had her kids, who knows what might’ve happened. As the child of abusive druggies I can’t help but feel less sympathy there.
Aww, I just wanna hug her when she found out about her mom accusing him about sexual allegations towards him. She broke for a bit. I’d saw it’ll hit even harder later. 🥺
😄 😄 when he asks Steve, do you think I'm lying? Well HECK YES ,Dan's test do not lie!!!!
Lol. 🤣🤣😂😂
Actually, Dan's test is not 100 percent accurate, no polygraph is. It's around 70-80 percent.
Who the Fuck is DAN?
@@indianapolisjones1615 do you watch The Steve Wilkos Show?
@@simpleguh7835 I'm Watching this Steve Wilkos clip, So apparently, Yes I do watch Steve Wilkos.
Congratulations to her on her sobriety I’ve been clean 18 months and going strong!
Pure heart break when she realised he dad could’ve done it to her too. Congratulations on her sobriety she’s so amazingly strong and I wish only the best for her and her daughter. The dad/grandad can rot in jail/hell.
Hey Steve, Is there an update about this daughter and her father? I am curious what happened with them and if the little girl got justice. I am proud that Courtney has been clean I hope she stayed clean! Please give us an update on this episode. :)
Seconded!
Well update is I did relapse after show it was a bad one. But today I have 2 weeks clean from meth and 6 months from alcohol. Honestly everyday memories come up of my childhood. The important thing is the truth is out there though about my daughter. For me it's one day at a time. I'm now living back in Wyoming and trying my best to be the best mom I can be!!!!!!!
@@courtneyfrederick2483 god bless you Courtney and praying for you wishing you all the healing. You did the right and best things for you and your children and got your story out there.
“I love her as a grand daughter, but just as a grand daughter, nothing more ”
Me: yep the piece of shit did it
Pretty identical to the grandma who said "I have emotions with my grandson."
God this whole thing made my PTSD skyrocket. 😖 stay strong momma. I know how badly she wants to rip him apart with her bare hands.
As a revering addict I really want to reach out to her. I hope she is still clean. That’s a lot for anyone to hear
Her addiction is ALL BECAUSE OF HIM. I’m so unbelievably proud of her strength & resilience!!!!
I had 3yrs clean wasnt easy at all i had a slip up but im back to being clean again just watch who u r around n where u r U CAN DO IT GIRL UR WORTH IT! WE R DOIN IT FOR OUR SELFS KEEP IT UP BABY...U GOT THIS SHOW HOW STRONG U R!!
This monster truly looks like every child's nightmare
Christ... the things people saying thinking it will make them look good. He really thought he scored a point when he said her mother accused him of molesting her. He really thought that was going to convince people he was telling the truth. When in reality it made him look so bad. Some people just have no social barometer...
What’s done in the dark will come to light!
Lying POS love bragging about the crap they get away with. He actually thought he could convince Steve. Incredible.
“Wait my mother accused you of molesting ME?!”
“Yeah!”
Uh...
When Steve switch his tone you know they failed 😂
Facts
“I love her as a granddaughter, nothing else”
Like… yeaaaaaah, you’re “not” guilty 🙄🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
The look on her face when he said "her mother accused him of it when she was young"... Like she really didn't know .. That's fucked up for him to try it again on his granddaughter... I'm glade she got the evidence she needed to get him away from any other child....
“I love my granddaughter” sent chills down my spine
I'm proud of her getting clean and I'm glad she got justice!!!!
He looks like a scary monster!I'm scared of him literally!
@fidel It's not fake, Steve just showed the trial newspaper report.
He can be retried. This is new evidence.
Unfortunately no he can’t. Double jeopardy.
@@JG31392 I'm sure she will, but she should take this to the police she worked with and her attorney. This is new evidence they'll take it from there.
@@kjs0391 he can’t be retried for the same crime. That’s the law unfortunately.
@@kjs0391 doesn't matter if it's new evidence. He cannot be tried again unfortunately
@@bunnybubson1665 I hope she shows them proof of this and sue the juror and judges for saying not guilty. They let a criminal go away. Goes to show you can’t rely on the public for a judge’s work. Too many biasnesses that play a part in wrongfully sentencing or releasing a person. Should have people that has worked in the field of police or law or even detective work instead of a “novice civilian because they pay taxes”
Congratulations for being clean and sober a year ❤️ wish u all the best and your children god bless u 💯🙏🏽
She has now been clean for 3 years now congrats 👏
The heart break on her face when she realized the same thing that happened to her daughter happened to her
Now she's going to be questioning if she was also hurt for the rest of her life. This is heartbreaking. I hope her and her kids are doing amazing now. Bravo for her cleaning up and being the best momma she can be!
oh yikes 😰 i feel like he definitely hurt his own daughter as well when she was that young
“let’s hope you get convicted and take IT to jail” 😭😭 this is a disgusting episode but and scenario but steve has the best comebacks
I pray that Jesus heals the mother and the daughter and that he has mercy on the father. He needs to accept the demon that circulating him and ask to be delivered because this is one worst crimes EVER against humanity. No sin is greater than another but taking the innocence of a child is horrible in so many ways. May Jesus Christ of Nazareth bless us all ❤️
Amen 🙏
@@blueglassesgirluk9445 hallelujah! Thank you for your response ❤️
The hateful, entitled and nasty way he speaks to her makes me despise him.
Jail and prison is so full nowadays they don't know what to do with these criminals at all smh
In most prisons he would be protected nowadays, these kind of people should never make it to prison , free world people should stand up and start removing the trash from our streets.
I love her strength.... Its not very easy to get away from an addiction and relapsing is soo easy 🖤🖤🖤
Damn. Daddy came out and I was like ""ooooh he's on that stuff too" 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️😩
Please, fire that jury. He ruined this family’s life by unknowingly letting a predator harm an innocent child
I don't think you know how a jury works.... a jury is a group of "random" people sent to be on jury duty.
@@mentoslump3376 much descriptive. Such knowledge. Wow 😂 I'm kidding. I know, but thank you for the information anyway
This is so sad and sickening, and her face when she finds out he could have done something to her..... Probably contributing to why she's an addict, must be beyond devastating on so many levels 😢.Also it feels so uncomfortable to give a thumbs up to a video like this, but it's a thank you for providing the clip, but still makes me feel guilty in a weird way 😕
I love when the dad walked out, everyone started booing.
I love how that one dude in the audience started the boos when the grandpa walked out
This is what we’ve been needing, thank you for the juicy videos Steve.
When he said I love my grand daughter as that and nothing else I knew he was guilty.
Ever noticed how in these family cases the accused/guilty member attacks someone’s parenting…?
Projection. Can also apply when it comes to the "I did it because it was done to me" type.
Nah, everything about this screams that he did it. The mom stopped doing meth because she felt so much guilt for letting her daughter get hurt by this man, that is a HUGE sign. And this isn't the first time he's been accused?! Awful.
My creep detector is going off.
8:32 _"WHERRTHH MAAII REETHHULTTHH"_
That is so disgusting 🤮 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢 I hope he goes to jail for the rest of his life
Pretty heartbreaking playing back 6:56 over and over again from the sheer shock she had.
I feel so bad for the mother she shouldn't blame herself I hope the "judge" get fired and there is special place in hell for people that are like this man
He did the same thing he did in court. Instead of facing up to the accusations he threw her under the bus using her drug use and possibly not being her dad as as deflection from his guilt. The system has failed, again.....BIG SHOCKER!!!!
"My daughter Courtney is a piece of shit mom!" says the grandpa who was accused and failed a lie detector test.
I love the person in the audience that screamed boo when he came out screaming LMAO
The SECOND I heard his voice and then saw his face, I immediately saw that this man is a predator… his whole look and personality, especially the way he spoke about his own daughter, told me everything I needed to know. I’m an addict and I know how incredibly difficult it is to get clean. I commend this woman for her bravery and the way she continues to fight for justice for her child. I hope they get closure!!!
I have to say Steve you are amazing and you have saved a lot of lifes we all appreciate that ❤
Same thing happened to my daughter. The jury also found my ex father in law not guilty too. I believe my daughter and can't believe they let him go free.
9:18 “Well you’re wrong mister!” 🤣
I’m so sorry this young mum has gone through such a horrific ordeal due to having a disgusting perverted father and now her little girl has to have such sick memories of what he did to her🤢. I’m very proud of her for getting clean from her addiction and fighting for her children🌸don’t let this ruin how far you’ve come by relapsing🙏🏻your a survivor and your children will be so proud of you as they grow up and realise how you fought for them💕much love and best wishes🌸
9:17 "you think I, you really think that" -guy that failed
Omg I died at that
They need to test him and ask if he molested his daughter when she was a child. I bet he did since his wife accused him.
The poor baby and his daughter I pray they find peace and justice for her
For those of you wondering: “The same charges can be brought against you again after they were dismissed or reduced, unless they were dismissed with prejudice (which is very rare), or they were dropped after jeopardy had attached (in other words, if they dropped the charges after the trial had already begun: after witnesses were sworn in a bench trial, or after the jury was impaneled at a jury trial).” -James D. Cormier, Criminal Defense Attorney
One second she's crying uncontrollably the next second she looks like she's not crying.
And
His perverted growling sounds like a chainsaw
“I came here & took it!”
“& you failed it.”
Classic😂
Either the jurors aren't so bright or that Ray is a very smooth talker.
He also paid 20k to a lawyer that got him off
And he is clearly not smooth talker at all
She's been so honest, even when those type of facts can cause so much negative judgement. You just know she was right and he was wrong. I'm proud of her for doing her best for her daughter
I hope that every single person out of the Jury will see this Episode and I hope that they would feel bad about them self for believing to the evil monster!!!
Imagine a grown ass man especially one that looks like him coming at you as a child....that's sickening....I can only imagine the fear and discomfort that baby faced at the hands of this chomo
Who ever said he was not guilty is as evil as him.
No, it sounds like just a complete botchery of a case, sufficient enough to prosecute, but a not guilty verdict after 45 minutes? What a joke.
@@arserobinson7118 whatever you say