Netherlands Air Force F-16 suffers a Bird Strike at Amsterdam during Training Flight!
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Hi Victor, just a comment on format. I much prefer this video format with the silent text introduction. I have got used to pausing, reading in my own time and continuing when ready for the content. It works really well for me. This is for feedback, but of course the decision is yours based on your preference and feedback from other viewers. 😊
@@BillySugger1965 my feedback is actually the same 👍
@@BillySugger1965 Yes, me too. It didn't take long for me to get used to pausing, reading, looking at the date again, thinking about what I had read. At first, it seemed that text was taken down too soon. Of course, with voice reading it, I can still pause, read, and think, then fast forward when I'm ready. Either way is fine with me.
I am thankful Victor posts these. Whatever works for him is fine with me...
Do you have the coms 5 mins prior with ams info?
I like how, in the middle of an emergency, the controller welcomes the planes to Amsterdam and then later on wishes POLLY 2 will come and visit again
That is a good way to treat other people in your daily life though, makes both your day and theirs more pleasant.
The Dutch Airforce perform regular training flights around Schiphol.
Controller sounds so upbeat, he is really enjoying his job, even when handling an emergency :-)
Well I suppose the risk to life with a smaller aircraft where the pilot can eject is much smaller than a large commercial jet, I'd just be happy to be talking to fighter pilots.
For some reason the Dutch really love helping people with directions, so I guess their air traffic controllers must be in heaven!
I agree, and I have a sneaking suspicion that the controller have had some experience on tactical frequencies as well as some of the terminology he used was very familiar. :)
That's how all the Schiphol controllers I've spoken to are. Flew a small propeller plane around their tower a few times, they're super friendly, "Make a right 360 and wave at the tower!" and those kind of instructions.
@@badethics7542 re: the risk to life with a smaller aircraft where the pilot can eject - If the pilot ejects the plane likely will come down in an upbuild area, maybe even a hospital or kindergarden. I'm pretty sure both pilot and controller were very aware of this.
I am Dutch, working at AMS airport and it’s so nice to read all the positive comments about the Netherlands and Dutch ATC. Was quite nice to have the fighter at Schiphol by the way.
Mooi!
Gek Groeten van beieren.
And I’m a pilot of China southern airline,u guys are always nice and polite. Thank you for ur help and the good attitude. I always fly to AMS. Cargo flight recently B777. Glad to hear your voice! I’m Reagan Luo. See u soon!
Het was dan ook een pracht staaltje van professionele afhandeling chapeau
@@reaganuncle7949
I dont work in ATC, but your always welcome.
Nobody:
Dutch ATC: oki dokie
That made me smile too!
Yeah that was great.
It's a phrase that Dutch people often use.
I love oki dokie, it reminds me of M64
Maastricht ACC says that all the time too lol
It incredible how every single person from the netherlands seems to be one of the nicest and funniest people I have ever talked to or listend to, talking to each other. The "okey-dokey" in an emergency situation just killed me :D
TheFregi2 the Dutch are too good for us
What emergency? He had landed already.
TheFregi2 - I had the honor of flying with the 32nd TFS out of Soesterberg AB, NL for three years and the Dutch were terrific hosts. Best assignment of my USAF career.
Jim Bledsoe Soesterberg? That’s where I live! The Airbase is now out of use and the National Military Museum is currently located there.
Bird suffered a F-16 strike
The bird was probably first in the air, so makes sense xD
Poor bird.
"tower, do you want me on this frequency or stay on with BRANDWEER" love it! typical dutch
Pretty sure they're talking about the EPU not the APU. The EPU has HAZMAT concerns with hydrazine.
Agreed.
@Leon Böhmer no the EPU ;) It's a system called Emergency Power Unit ;)
I really enjoy Dutch ATC. They are nice, polite and usually very quick-witted!
And not just Dutch ATC....all the Dutch people I've ever met have been nice, polite and quick-witted :)
@@PrivateVoid1 Our English is great too. Except this ATC then... Netherlands Second?
2:44 = “When the blocks are set in place”
Another great video! 😃
You beat me to it by about 30 seconds.
Dane Roschen 😆
Being from a Dutch family I have to say that this was a very Dutch interaction. "Okie dokie" at about 1:20 and 4:40 and the way the controller and Polly 1 & 2 communicate overall reminded me so much of when I would listen to my grandfather talk with his friends, or when relatives visited from Nederland. Dankjewel
He meant the EPU, which works off a super hazardous chemical. Therefore, would need a hazmat crew on landing and spacing far from people
That hazardous chemical is almost certainly Hydrazine. With the amount the F-16 carries on board, you need a team with full-up Hazmat suits to handle the aircraft before the pilot can get out safely. Hydrazine is a neurotoxin, you really don't want that stuff in your lungs.
If you are interested in these kinds of materials Ignition by John Drury Clark is a very good and funny book on the topic
You need at least 600 feet if any significant spillage occurred (USAF standard) and the initial ARFF responders must wear a Level A suit to assess, but then switch to a totally encapsulated suit if a leak is detected. USAF has hydrazine response teams on their fire departments which handle the EPU.
"Europa Report" has a hydrazine subplot and is a good movie.
He did say EPU, it's just the subtitles that were in error.
3:08 POLLY2 is not requesting to go offshore, but to go off to ops for a minute (not monitoring 118,105 for a minute to talk with ops, which is approved). That’s also why POLLY2 requests a higher altitude right after, as higher up there is better line of sight towards any receivers/transmitters if they are far away.
yes indeed and that's why he's allowed to fly up to fl60. Its a hard deck of fl60 not a high deck at 3:42
@@ronaldklooster1022 F-16s can't get that high, I'm assuming he meant 6000ft.
@@Zerbey I think you made a mistake somewhere haha. FL60 is close to 6000ft (but calculated from standard atmosphere) F16 can go much higher than that (FL500)
Better English than some American ATCs
The dutch are taught English from very young in school. I lived there briefly as a child and despite being British, I always did worse in English lessons than the locals lol!
Made me laugh... Which makes it even worse :( condolences to all Murican air travellers
Marco R. - Totally grandstanding!
Normally the Dutch comes out on top in all “best non native English speakers”
@@pettergardo3874 Apparently we’re up there along with Norwegians. But don’t worry. Some of us do have thick accents.
So smooth. So professional.
Better then me! I’ve been warned a few times to watch my language! But come on! It’s a natural reaction!
Phrasing is kind of redundant though, POLLY2 sounds confused a bit
@@user-cr4sc1ht9t judging with no background knowledge.
Nice video.
They dont say APU, But EPU.
Sinde the F-16 is not equipped with a APU, But a EPU ( Emergency power unit) onyl used in a loss of power event.
But since the EPU use the highly toxic fuel Hydrazine, Its important for the ATC and fire to know if the EPU has been use, due to there are some procedure that has to be followed in that case.
100m safety zone around the airplane, and Fire has to place a container with water under the right wing, where there are a Hydrazine spill port, and some other thing
Hydrazine = Liquid Cancer
@@FirstDagger If you live long enough to get cancer, you're one of the lucky ones!
I got a little smarter by reading a YT comment, now that's a rarity xD Thanks :)
@@robot_spider tell that to my 4 year old cousin who died from leukemia
@@Eagles_Eye Is this your first day on the internet? Or do you just not understand hyperbole? Obviously I don't believe "4 year olds with leukemia are lucky". And I think you know that's not what I meant. But I do still believe it's preferable than acute death due to CNS and respiratory failure by exposure to hydrazine.
Judging by the callsigns and "Polly 2" indicating returning to Leeuwarden RNLAF Base, these 2 F-16's are from No. 322 Sqn, which has a Grey Parrot as squadron mascot and on the squadron badge. I -think- the Sgdn name is "Polly Grey", if no, some Dutch viewers can surely correct me :)
Absolutely correct. From the Dutch Air Force website: www.defensie.nl/organisatie/luchtmacht/vliegbases-en-luchtmachtonderdelen/leeuwarden/squadrons, translated to English:
"The squadron emblem features the squadron mascot: Polly Grey, an African grey parrot. The very first Polly Grey was bought in London by one of the squadron's pilots during the second world war."
Haha, that's brilliant! :D
@Tom David It's a Norwegian Blue
Noel Down it must be pining for the fjord.
African Greys are durable pets! My Grandfather acquired one at the end of WWI, and it was still very much alive when he died in 1979 (age 97).
Really liking that ATC guy. He was superb.
This controller sounds very very mellow and yet at the same time completely professional as need be., if he is an example, the Netherlands has some of the most chilled out controllers ever to pull Tower Duty . listening to this is like watching Captain America take punches he could do this all day , and not break a sweat.
They’re down to like 5% of air traffic. All ATCs are mellow now.
Dutch are such nice ppl. I know some that sound like the tower guy, super chill dudes.
I must say, I am English, but I do love to listen to the Dutch people speak English, I really used to enjoy visiting the Netherlands when I used to go there to work.
I absolutely love how this communication shows the difference between civilians and military. The ATC talks so nicely and friendly like they would to a Cessna hobby pilot on a bright and calm sunday afternoon. Meanwhile the fighters communication is straight on point, limited to the minimum needed. You hear how fast those guys can think if needed. Awesome
I miss to fly into AMS a lot. Friendly, professional and efficient ATC. Sometimes hard to find in the rest of the world.
The dutch are awesome.
All of them? Most of them? Half of them? A few of them?
@@fritzfeyersinger8560 I'm Dutch and I'm just going to receive the compliment gracefully. Thank you very much!
Very professional by all parties. You can tell Dutch ATC appreciates their Air Force. See 4:15 for example.
1:23 OKI DOKI your plane is on fire but everything's okay!
LOL, is "Okie-dokie" an official aviation expression? Loved that!
It's not but it should
4:21 - "Polly 2 is back up. Apparently *de Brandweer* is gonna follow C5 [...]"
"Brandweer" is the dutch term for the fire departement.
I thought it was "Spoke to the brandweer. Gonna follow C5 ..."
I noticed it to, and I like how he said "brandweer" in an English accent. He does it again at 4:32 to.
Polly Grey, that's 322sqn.! Served my compulsory as an assistant crewchief there :) Had a seagull inspecting our aircraft engine over the North Sea, and a plane that scalped some trees at Goose Bay. 323sqn. however trumped us with colliding with a deer during landing at Leeuwarden AFB.
"Oki doke, thanks!" Can we import this ATC to America?
Yeah, I liked his Oki doke and his talking.
While watching this video I actually heard a F-16 over my house here in Amsterdam. That is actually a rather rare happening.
The plane left EHAM at 15:25 UTC+01, ik zag hem opstijgen bij toeval :)
Always love flying into EHAM. Some of the best and sharpest controllers in Europe. Looking forward to going back after Covid releases us. Cheers from a UK based A320 pilot.
Just blown away in the difference from atc in Europe and the U.S.love the relaxed way they handle you.less pressure than US counterparts .
Feels more like a training sim, beautiful. Just beautiful.
Why do the Dutch always sound so chippy and happy? It’s like they can see an available cold beer in the corner of the room and got happy about it.
Its because we are always happy🥳 you should life here to know
@@larsmeijerink5471 That's not entirely true. I suspect that most times, life in Holland is pretty risk free. Which is why we welcome a bit of excitement.
Amsterdam Airport (Schiphol) has a great safety record so any excuse for some excitement, like a minor emergency (no fire onboard, controls are ok, pilot and passengers ok - so not on an F-16 but you'll catch my drift), is welcome because there are so few of them.
The biggest incidents around Schiphol that I can remember were pretty grim.
One was the Turkish Airlines crashlanding in a nearby field, with 9 killed and 120 wounded in 2009.
The other one was also the worst, the El Al cargo 747 crashing into a built-up area in Amsterdam itself in 1992.
The ATC on that one is pretty haunting. All three crewmembers were killed plus 39 people on the ground.
@@AudieHolland yeah I know those things which happend in the "Hollands" but I am talking about the netherlands as a country not just those two province's. Nothing ever happens here so no reason to not being happy. I am Dutch the "crashlanding" was just a crash, you know why it happend right? Because of the malfunction on the pitotubes. I know the Belmerramp as well.
The Netherlands is just a place where you dont have to be afraid of gun violence or weirdos with knives. Its save, thats why ppl are happy
@@larsmeijerink5471 Well, you realize that English is the lingua franca on YT so anyone talking about something called 'The Netherlands' has to be Dutch to even vaguely understand the concept.
As some born in a Holland myself, I like to think of 'The Netherlands' as the remainder of the Dutch Empire :-p
@@AudieHolland not completely true. Americans think they own the world and so they think they know a lot about the netherlands in there way. At the same time they don't even know why there flag is red white and blue. They don't even know there own history
2:43 Polly01, we'll be shutting down when the blocks are set in place.
Probably blocks that are being put behind/front of the front wheel so that it can stand still there.
Chocks. They’re called chocks and they go under rear wheels.
And people say Canadians are friendly.
Canadians are polite (and yes, often friendly). The Dutch are friendly (and sometimes even polite). 8-)
Oki doki? I never saw that in a standard phrase book.
Don’t. Europeans NEVER use non-phraseology words! 😂
Love that military jargon. Bit different from the civil one.
How?
and yet it was a civilian controler
Is Polly a standard call-sign for the Netherlands Air Force? Makes me think of a colourful parrot, not a deadly fighter :D
322 squadron F-16s (Leeuarden AFB) use Polly call sign, because their mascot is Polly Grey, a parrot.
See mascot here (dutch): www.defensie.nl/organisatie/luchtmacht/vliegbases-en-luchtmachtonderdelen/leeuwarden/squadrons
We're just lulling you into a false sense of security... >:)
POLLY is one of the callsign's the 322sqn uses :)
Awesome that both of them kept there head
just another day at work for this air traffic controler.. Well done sir hats off
"oki doki" haha love it!
wow, i wish VATSIM Europe controllers were this clear in English :(
You should visit Amsterdam with Dutch ATC there, it's quite good aswell.
0:43 This is Schiphol tower taking over. The tower is able to use other frequencies in the LVNL radio package as well, on the radio/communications unit. The In this case the Discrete Emergency Frequency is used so that one aircraft does not have to switch multiple times, the units themselves use the DEF frequency, hence "Schiphol tower taking over" from the previous one, Amsterdam info, or Schiphol Approach
3:40 not high deck , but harddeck.
Nice recording!
Thanks for the info, nice! Are you sure about the harddeck though? Because AFAIK harddeck is a lower limit and this was about an upper limit.
3:40 it's high deck, the controller is telling the pilot that the maximum altitude he can operate up to is 6000ft
Polly1 at @4:22 - 4:24 said: "Polly1 is back up. Spoke to the brandweer we're gonna follow C5 to run-up area". Brandweer is dutch for fire brigade.
The whole thing is in perfect English but still they say brandweer. It's a nicer word than fire brigade I guess.
Emergency situation incoming
Every atc in the world: WHAT HAPPENED? DO YOU NEED FULL EMERGENCY?! HOW MANY SOB?
Amsterdam schilpol - OkIdOkI
Man, that english is so good...
Prince Wilem-Alexander: "Atta' boy!"
King Willem-Alexander since 2013.
@@AlexT74 I'm dutch and I still haven't gotten used to that. Prins Pils for eternity.
Such a chill professional ^^
The pilot who glided the plane in with a bird in the engine?
@@dylanchantharasy I was thinking mostly about the controller, but all 3 of them actually ^^
Gotta hand it to that pilot in the middle of a bird strike emergency and he's still thinking about how much noise he's making for people on the ground.
That was the other Polly, the one that kept circling the airport.
Agree it was Polly 2 but still very professional of him to be concerned with noise abatement at that time.
@@davidpoulin6961 absolutely, it is a big thing here in the netherlands, I work at EHRD and have to refuse a lot of training requests due to noise complaints :-(
Hs Hs there are a lot of noise complaints about aircraft in the Netherlands, it’s coming to a point that people actually start losing their ability to listen to stuff and other ear complaints. because fighter jets make a lot of noise, even if they’re up high in the sky, its always appreciated if the pilots try to reduce the amount of noise.
@@cookietjep Ah, come on, it is not noise, it is music in the air! 🙈😂
So Polly 1 hit another bird? Is that classified as a bird strike or a mid-air collision??
Bird to bird strike.
"Squwak tactical again".... Yeah baby! 🤩🤩
Controller: Okie Dokie
Fighter Pilot: Zippit up and zippit out.
so calm...
Today a single engine plane overran runway at KUNV (state college area, centre co, central PA, USA) Also the c40 (modified 737 that flies the vice president) did touch and goes there yesterday
The C-40 doesn’t often transport the VP. That’s usually done via the C-32. Other back-ups are the C-20 and the C-37.
The main job for the USAF C-40s is transporting generals and senators. The Navy’s C-40s are utility transports. There are 21 C-40s in service.
sounds like the ATC twr guy had some mil ATC background.
What is progressive taxi means?
If you are unfamiliar with an airport, you can request progressive taxi. In this case, they will guide you through the taxiways.
@@robertborchert932 I had the same question, thanks for your answer!
Thanks
Just a note for your transcriber... the [...] at 2:48 is "blocks are set in place." I assume he's referring to some sort of block that keeps the gear from rolling.
Yeah, he is referring to wheel chocks. The F-16 is so powerful that it can actually start rolling with the engine just idling.
The Air Force pilots’ English is starkly better than the controller’s. Polly 1 sounds almost American/Canadian.
Who was thinking of Beverly Hills Cop 3 and doing the shuffle? 😁
At 3:08 POLLY02 is not going offshore but off ops on 118.105 to contact their ops at Leeuwarden on VHF about the situation. Since the RNLAF F-16's only have 1 UHF radio and 1 VHF radio he needed to switch the VHF radio from EHAM TWR to GREENHOUSE Ops.
Not true, most have arc210 dual mode radio.
Switching or not... I think that's the reason why is going quit, he should know what to do next and Schiphol TWR can't tell him that...
1:27 right turn onto the taxiway
I think I've seen this I was quite surprised to see TWO F16's pass over my house and not 5 minutes later exact same, same height back in the direction of Schiphol. Quite an amazing sight, if any of them pilots are actually reading these comments, don't you worry about the "sound" it was well appreciated here!
Anytime ;)
Only now I noticed this funny detail: Polly 1, the F-16 pilot landing at Schiphol, has no distinct Dutch accent.
Only near the end of the video, he starts referring to the firebrigade as 'brandweer.'
That's the Dutch word for it.
I think they ALL should have to say 'okie dokie' from now on!
1:25
The word you didn't transcribe is "taxiway"
2:46
"....blocks are set in place"
Over 99.99% sure he means the chock blocks for the tires, so that the plane doesn't roll when parked.
Yep, you're right, I hear also "taxiway"...
'Oki doki' this guy is a military ATC.
1:25 Oki doki hahaha
Oki doke!
F16's, the mighty pride of Netherlands Airforce to defend the homelands airspace... versus a bird.
@2:49 blocks are on the place. (I think)
One thing we do know; that bird did not suffer.
“Oki doki”
EHAM TWR is the Dutchiest Dutchman who ever Dutched.
Polly and oki doki! I like it! 😀
Okie doki!
.... Oki Doki... Good job.
I think they meant EPU and not APU (as written in the subtitles)
I looked up the PH-POM registration, that's a hot air balloon. Interesting that they're allowed to operate a balloon so close to a major airport. Although, maybe that's just for now while it's so quiet...
1:24: It sounds like he's saying "take this one left and then the right turn onto the taxiway"
2:46: It sounds like he's saying "we'll be shutting down when the blocks have been set in place" (probably his wheel chocks)
3:39: It sounds like they both are saying "hard deck" instead of "high deck". I know the term hard deck from Top Gun :-D
4:33 He says "brandweer" (dutch word for fire brigade, so well done on the translation)
English with a heavy Dutch accent is not always the easiest to follow, especially over the radio ;-) All in all, very interesting video. Quite a few people must have been surprised to see a fighter aircraft land on a civil airport.
It is very special a hot air balloon is allowed to operate inside the Schiphol CTR. A year ago the VFR procedures at EHAM are even more precise. Pilots need to file a VFR flightplan at least 6 hours before departure and so on.
But PH-POM doesn't have the registration layout that a hot air balloon usually has
@@dutchfsxchannel1407 That's very informative, thank you!
@@dutchfsxchannel1407 Yeah, that confused me for a little bit when I looked up the registration.
This particular balloon is sponsored by a chips (French fries) manufacturer, and the registration refers to "pommes frites", which is the French word for chips.
www.ballonregister.nl/index.php?reg=pom
@@dutchfsxchannel1407 vfr still need to obtain special permission 6 hours beforehand (and mostly refused, EHAM is very busy). However, due to the covid situation, the past months it was granted all the time. Very friendly controllers, made a lot of private pilots happy with touch and gos on the big runways 😊
that f16 was flying over my school when it happend LOL
ATC is nice
Can we get the recordings from bird pretty sure his said is way more exciting
I like the Netherlands controllers, They do their jobs very very good!
Until they don’t, which is often.
@@afcgeo882 proof?
Ruben Janssen How about the time a few months ago a plane was cleared to be pushed back, while one across from it was pushing back? Actually, that happened twice recently.
Why? Are you under some psychotic impression that they’re perfect?
@@afcgeo882 You can't read. You are the first to mention the word perfect.
@@demi3115 Factually YOU can’t read. I’m the one who said, “until they don’t”.
Polly as in Polly parrot? Whoever gave them the callsign is a comedy genius.
Polly Grey is the squadron mascotte! onzeluchtmacht.nl/binnen-en-buitenlands-nieuws/binnenlands-nieuws/75-jaar-322-squadron/
Was this happened yesterday if it yes I heard the f-16's flying but didn't seen them
POLLY2 requesting a flyby
Negative Polly2 the Pattern is Full 😊😁
POLLY01 sounded more American than some Americans do.
God damn BIRDS!
Are ATC people trained with militair ATC? Do they know how to handle a military aircraft? Like text and frases, common used in military and not in public (burgerluchtvaart)
Many where military (as it pays 2 or 3 times over for the same job). In the future, the military and civilian ATC are being located in one place (in Dutch: magazines.defensie.nl/vliegendehollander/2020/01/06_1atm)
Polly, put the kettle on
it’s just me or POLLY1 had an American accent? could be military exchange program US -Netherlands?
According to this article airman.dodlive.mil/2018/02/20/pilot-exchange/ there is a US Air Force Major assigned as pilot with the 322nd (this F16's unit). I bet it was him in Polly1
Albert Pender yep ,gotta be him then 👍🏻
I'm Dutch, and hearing his accent and him saying "brandweer" which is the Dutch word for fire brigade, i'm pretty sure he's dutch
Agreed, the use of 'brandweer" (fire brigade) only a native dutch would do
That's bad news man : (
I guess polly2 doesnt need to read back
Hmmmm, didn’t know the F16 have drag chug.
Some F-16s have drag chutes, some don't. Usually it is countries with shorter runways that have them. Countries in colder climates use chutes to help prevent runway overruns in icy conditions. I don't believe that any of the F-16s stationed in the U.S. have them.
Oki dokie...yup dutch.....too funny.
I’m gonna keep hearing Polly or “polywon” in my head
In this post on twitter there is a videoclip of the landing of Polly01 and flyby of Polly02
twitter.com/Daveyfotografie/status/1270660634632478727?s=20