How cheap can I build a "Gaming PC" for in 2022
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It would be cool if you did one of these once every 6 months, and compared the performance difference with the last thousand-dollar PC, continuously.
Cool idea!
That sounds like a lot of work.
Agreed.
@@ActualZombeard by this point building a pc is child's play for jay
that sounds like a lot of money and work
Confused by the CPU choice: yes the AMD was $20 more expensive, but it comes with a cooler, so you'd have saved $10 overall.
You read my mind 😵💫😵💫
First thing he mentioned as a reason is that he hasnt done a video with it yet
@@seamuskavanaugh3873 That was one of the things he mentioned, but the reason he eventually gave was it was $20 cheaper, which it wasn't when you include the cooler.
This was about doing a budget build, not testing a CPU.
all 11th and 12th gen intel cpu comes cooler. but he made a good choice of buying a different cooler since stock ones are generally not the best, for intel and amd
@@lordtachanka8333 He put out a video not so long ago commenting on how AMD's box coolers are actually solid, especially if you're not doing any major overclocking. Intel CPUs generally don't come with coolers, and the one he bought certainly didn't, unless it was too tiny to cool anything bigger than a sweaty gnat.
I really think that when you guys do a "building a PC for $X" video, you should try to include peripherals in the build as well. Many people who watch these videos as a way to know what they're getting themselves into won't necessarily consider the cost of peripherals when they sit down and put a parts list on paper. Including that information as well as a rough selection guide would be a big help for a lot of folks out there. While they technically aren't part of the machine, they are necessary to use a PC, and they also aren't free or necessarily inexpensive either. Just something to think about. Keep up the great work!
Agreed
a monitor can easily throw you off your budget
This! While the point of this video is to get a decent gaming PC for the lowest cost possible, peripherals like monitor, mouse, keyboard, game controllers, and headsets/speakers are not free. Upgraders may have one of those laying around, but first builders need to buy those. Also, technically any cheap $10-$20 keyboard-mouse combo is perfectly usable, but they are not made for gaming. For a decent pair, you need to shell out extra $50-$100.
Truer words my friend.
Gaming is not only FPS or eSports level of precision when it cones to keyboard and mouse. A cheap combo can give you a lot.
Jay:"I'm saving $20 going with the Intel CPU."
Cooler:"$30"
AMD:"..."
exactly
You can purchase a stock intel fan for $5
@@Shut6000 they suck
@@Shut6000 those fans are meant for like celeron pentium core duo kind of cpus the better the CPU the better u need the fan
My thoughts exactly. Saved $20 on the CPU that DOES NOT come with a cooler in the box... I have questions. Already went from "Most bang for your buck" to "Because we haven't built one of these yet"
From someone who built my first computer just last year , and very happy with the results, never stop making these videos , there invaluable to new time builders.
at the same time, you must do a little research yourself because in actuality you could build a better system then that right now. I think Micro center asked him to do a video on a budget PC so Micro center can get rid of their 3-year-old about to be obsolete hardware.
@@nicholas9051 well said, stepping back on that cpu and forward on the gpu would have made a Lot more sense imho (depending on workload I guess)
@@chasesmay7237 I agree, he could have gone for a little worse cpu, smaller ssd size, to get a better gpu. As long as the cpu was good enough to not bottleneck the gpu it would be fine.
What are the specs?
@@nicholas9051 That really depends on the specs of their components 😋.
As an owner of a 1660 super (actually the same msi model Jay showed here) I can confirm that it can still run everything at 1080p. Currently playing elden ring at high settings with steady 60fps
also 1660 super here. it's very good. i game on a 2014 cpu so it stutters rarley but not because of the gpu. 1660 super is great.
I choked when I saw the 300+ price tag... shouldn't it be half that or less?
@@mjkittredge I bought my 1660 Super (ASUS TUF 3 Fans OC) for like $320ish before pandemic and it's normal as it should be, unless, it goes like $380+ or like $400iah and yeah, that's where the price is not normal. Even Jay here bought a 2 Fan MSI 1660 Super for like $360 and with that price, you could buy a 1660 Super from a better skew.
Same, I guess people have struggles when they game with lots of apps open but I stream with this and have Gamecaster and Spotify open along with a browser with no problems to my game. Anything more can cause application stalls but I don't push it beyond my norm. Kinda 😂
To be honest, the prices for pc part particularly gpu’s is fucking ridiculous and scammy. The fact that $400 only gets you 1080p performance is sub-par as honestly non-consumer friendly. I have a 3090 and I understood that I’m paying for an enthusiast level card and can accept that, but 1080p high 60fps which I believe should be the industry minimum standard at this point, honestly the pc gaming world is just fucking the smaller consumer comparatively to consoles.
Note: Before people come at me for dumb shit arguments, I’m not talking utility, work station, etc strictly gaming, and at the smaller market I believe people are getting scammed to where, you really should just buy a console.
I followed one of your build guides for my first PC about a year ago, you really have the talent to communicate thoroughly and succinctly
I know the feeling Jay. I went to Microcenter a few weeks ago and they had at least 2 of every AMD/Nvidia gpu in stock at great prices. They even had ASUS RTX cards on sale! After 2 years of $700 GTX1650's it feels weird seeing all the cards in one spot available for purchase. Anyway, I love these low budget price/performance builds. Yeah I like seeing the $8k super high end eyecandy builds too. BUT there is just something about these cheap gaming builds that I love. Keep up the great work!
It's all about perspective but it still amazes me that so many people accept a $1000 PC as cheap.
@@gnauenburg2018 yea I agree lol. You can buy a perfectly fine used gaming pc that has better performance for like 400 eu/usd
If GPUs weren't so expensive, it would be alot better. I wish we here in Germany had something like a microcenter.
I recently ordered parts for a Server upgrade, including an entire new motherboard. Since i didn't need a GPU, i got away with ~650€, which is fine. The old server hardware was my PCs old motherboard, which i originally didn't pay that much for, and it served me well.
I love seeing a PC UA-camr shopping for parts like the average person would. It really shows the problems with parts pricing to an extreme. Online deals are often cheaper, and most of the videos talking about MSRP only talk about online shopping, like Amazon or Newegg pricing.
well they only talk abandon online shopping because most people don’t have a microcenter near them
@@endersoul46 some people don't even have a micro centre in their country
@@endersoul46 what I would give to have one in the Bham. AL area...closest to me is Marietta, GA.
I'm a piano teacher with a pc building addiction. I buy almost exclusively from that Microcenter (20minutes away). I've helped several students build cheap PCs and this is very similar to a recent build. I added a 1T mechanical HD as well as the 500gb nvme since they were going to be doing a lot of video work for highschool and needed storage.
Could you help me to pick the right parts and help me build the pc in there?I was planning to go there this coming friday or saturday
I would recommend upgrading to 2tb for the $5-$10 more
@@iCantEscapeYou Yeah, if you're going to put a slow, noisy HDD in the system, get something that offers a good price for the storage, though just getting a 2 TB SSD in the first place instead of the HDD would be a much better choice, if price allows.
help me build a gaming computer thing, btw i don’t know anything about computers
@@josh.andree Go to your local Microcenter, that's part of what they do.
I built my first PC two years ago and Jay helped me set up the BIOS thank you so much Jay and please keep up the good work!
Great vid thanks. Good to see guys like you still building what you call a budget build, i bet there's a higher percentage of people building budget builds than the industry realise!
Had a client bring me parts to build a PC. He didn't consult with me on some of the parts and came back with a PowerSpec power supply. Build went great, everything posted, system worked great for a day. Then the PSU blew. I took the PC back, pulled the PSU out, and told him to go return it and buy something from a few of the reputable brands I then recommended to him. He ended up with an EVGA and hasn't had a problem since. First time and last time I'm building with a PowerSpec PSU. Wonder who the OEM is.
Had two of them fail in a row for me. Micro Center needs to find a new supplier for their PSU's.
my CoolerMaster psu broke yesterday after just 1.5 year of use (MWE 750 Gold)
so maybe also stay away from CM PSUs...
When it comes to PSUs I'd definitely recommend on of the brands that build for themselves. Like Seasonic. Of course they are a bit pricier but still better than buying a second PSU after a short while (or even a burnt home).
I've had a powerspec 650 in my PC for 2 years with no problem
I refuse to build a system with a shoddy power supply. There aren't enough liability waivers in the world to put my labor into something that can burn down a house.
The best part of this video was when Jay was walking out the store. Many people look like that when they get their first custom build.
Thanks to Jay and all the team (including your familys) for all the content you make.
I've been building PC's for years and have welcomed all the info from you and others on youtube - Big thanks to you all
Found it right when I saw your comment 12:12 he's so happy lol
Great to see a budget build with the current market prices. keep up the great content guys.
It’s been a few since I’ve watched a jay video, and the editing has somehow managed to get even better! Keep it up all around !
Well I went the 5600g route and I'm quite satisfied, that allows me to save for a higher GPU. Still more videos like this are needed, most channels on PC building focus on middle high to super high end side of things, while most people hardly has more than 1 75hz monitor. Keep the good work
why not do 12400 for $100 cheaper? or 12600k for the same price but better?
You do realize that all these crap parts are sub par? PC building is not cheap! You want a cheap gaming rig, go console! If not STFU!
@@Raxion496 5600g better integrated graphics
Feel sorry for whoever buys parts like these. And his last part video. Terrible budgeting
The only good part was the RAM
@@Raxion496 12400 is 200ish 5600g is 200 and has better graphics plus mobo and ram costs on 12400 would be higher and the 12600k is not a 200 dollar cpu
Just finished my first PC build yesterday. Wanted to say thanks to you for the info you provided for the build (watched your videos putting it together too.) your the best Jay!
Congrats! Hope you love it (:
@@chanchanfunky2032 going from controller to Mouse and keyboard is tricky but happy with the results so far
really thankful for this video, it gives me some hope as a budget fan of building, would love another update as prices continue to change, thanks jay
I love this style of videos.
If you have access to the components, then just taking the best of everything, making sure they are compatible and putting them into a case is boring.
Putting restraints on the build such as a "working man's" budget is interesting and keeps me hooked watching you make informed concessions to keep it within a budget.
Are we that used to the "shortage" that we're accepting 60% over MSRP on a 1660 Super is okay? Clearly they have a ton in stock and they could charge closer to MSRP. Last thing I'd want is retailers joining the mass scalping too and keeping prices inflated when they're no longer completely sold out like they were a year ago.
"You build PCs with parts you have, not the parts you might want or wish to have"
as of Sept 2021 Nvidia is still producing stock of 16 series gpu dies. while they arent churning them out like they used to its not like stock is finite. Micro Center just remodeled and this is their California store so i wouldnt be surprised if prices were slightly inflated at this location
Retailers already joined scalping band since last year...
@@dannybrennan31 slightly?? 60% isn't slightly lol
Yeah the fact that they are over $100 over MSRP with that much stock is, flat out, gouging.
Honestly, the 11400 would have paired just fine with that 1660S, and saved $40, knocking the total down even further. (EDIT: As others have pointed out, with the stock cooler the 11400 comes with, the savings are actually about $70, opening up enough budget 3060 while still sticking under $1000 for the build) Locked motherboard makes me...really question this decision. The difference in actual frames in most games won't be noticeable.
Overclocking a cpu does *almost* nothing for fps anyway haha
going with 11400 or 11400f, skimping a little bit on a mobo and going with a 6600 would give a much more powerful system overall.
You can probably even save more money by going with the Core i5-10400F or the Core i3-12100F.
Could've the Mobo, CPU, GPU and PSU choices were questionable.
CPU 11400f would've been a better choice IMO... Not much need for iGPU
Mobo could've gone ultra budget with a h510... Nothing about a Mobo offers better FPS, plus better pairing with a locked CPU
GPU 6600 would've been better bang for bucks and better pairing with i5 11th gen
PSU... About future proofing... If you're upgrading from mid range parts to newer gen mid range parts, extra headroom is overrated... Unless you go from mid range to high end parts..
Yeah. Weird cheap route but then again he said he never build using one so maybe it's for the view
I go to this MicroCenter all of the time - it's right down the street from where I work. Love the new renovations.
Jay, I wanted to build a part time gaming computer but didn't need all the bells and whistles of a high end unit. I basically duplicated your choice in Power supply, MB, CPU, Cooler, Ram and SSD's (total of 3). I found a good case with lots of cooling and even one that would accommodate my DVD drive and followed you instructions of how to load Windows. At 70 years old, I've never built a computer before and wow, everything is working great. I used an existing graphics card I had (Gforce GTX 950) and since I only play World of Tanks, it works a lot better than before. I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your ample information which allowed me to complete this project. Thanks so much, Keith
Even when amazon has cheaper parts. (not normally). I love going for the experience and to build my PC in one day. I hope micro center stays true to what they do. I even like the 80's office look they have going tbh.
The closest option I've is best buy.. which sigh.. i've used them for specific parts i've needed and knew they have but that's the most i'd do there. I'd build all of my PC's from microcenter if we had one in my area.
MC can price match if you show them the Amazon link
@@bzak thats another good point. Hey have done this before for me as well :)
I like how he doesn't roast the complete s*** out of budget components.. a little jab here and there in a fun way, nothing like e.g. Linus & his assisrtants do, which mostly feels like ur back in high-school and watch someone get bullied, this huge-ego-ed, condescending kind of way to roast stuff, which just makes every regular poor pleb (me) feel like shit.. Not everybody is a priviledged, rich tech-youtuber, so thanks for staying down to earth, Jay!
fam jus getcho bread up🤣🤣
just ordered a pre-made PC(have no knowledge to make my own) and it has a 5600G and a 1660 Super and was worried they might not be that good for gaming but with you talking about them that has made me so much more comfortable with getting them in this premade so TY for the info and TY for the great videos
5600g would bottle neck it the “g” stands for integrated graphics and doesn’t preform well with real gpus
I love this video, and almost all your videos. They've been so helpful to me when I built my first gaming PC at the end of 2020, but I do wish builders/youtubers would include the cost of a monitor, keyboard and mouse to these build-a-PC-for-$$ videos. A PC case with all the necessary components inside, does not a full PC make. It's useless without a monitor, keyboard and mouse. Peripherals should be included or at least mentioned as a necessary cost to complete a build.
In 1998 I bought a used hospital tower from auction (only Windows NT on it) for $400. W 2022 inflation and Let's Go Brandon $750 or so. It came without a dial up modem even. I Think it came with the crap monitor and keyboard, mouse. Thank goodness my uncle w the computer shop helped me along just enough for me to learn stuff. Or at least just break one part at a time. 24 yrs later I am responding from the 1st pre-built tower (Cyberpower PC, I don't game but I got tired of laptops. With Windows 10, for $900). It broke 11 months in, I got to pay them $150 in shipping. Graphics card on it is still limited running a 55in TV and 4k monitor. Just the 4k monitor (not w TV on) monitor does better graphics.
Buyer beware! Just because the graphics card has 1 hdmi and 3 monitor spots. No way this thing could do that. Plug in headphones or a mic. Then try to go back to HDMI surround sound took so many reboots to work again. My uncle was stumped with troubleshooting (over the phone). AMD tends to send out updates every 2 weeks.
Had I built this tower, I would know each component which makes troubleshooting WAY easier. For practice, at least get a beat up old tower that sort of works from a family member. Take it apart and put it back together again. It's cheap practice.
I will say I got a monitor at a garage sale for $20. There's lots of old ones if you just want 1080p @ 60hz
I agree partially, as I think mentioning them would be good, but not included in detail as I feel that information is totally irrelevant honestly...it's like if you would say that they need to recommend a desk as well as a chair, as those are necessary as well.
@@AlphaLegionXX I disagree, you don't need a chair or desk to get the computer to be fully functional but you do absolutely need a monitor, keyboard and mouse to get a computer to work as intended. You can't get into BIOS without at the very least a keyboard and monitor, you can't see anything without a monitor and can't make things happen without a keyboard. You MAY be able to do SOMETHING without a mouse but with extreme difficulty and definitely NOT everything on a computer. A chair and desk? Will a computer work without them? Can you play a game or run a program without them? Yes! So comparing a monitor, mouse and Keyboard to a desk and chair is absurd since I am talking about what you need to make a computer fully useable. What can you do with a fully built tower and no keyboard or monitor?
@@desertshadow72 That's great! I got a great monitor and keyboard and a mouse at great prices too. My point isn't the price, my point is they are necessary to complete a build and are almost always treated as add-ons in build videos and rarely mentioned when they are in fact an absolute necessity.
More budget builds, its always cool to see different choices. High end rigs tend to have the same parts.
*AMD Ryzen 7 5700G --> 299,-
*Thermal Grizzly - Carbon Thermal Pad Carbonaut 38x38mm --> 18,-
*be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black --> 45,-
*µATX ASRock B550M Steel Legend --> 134,-
*2x 8Gb G.Skill Flare X DDR4-3200, CL14-14-14-34 --> 115,-
*EVGA SuperNOVA GT 750W ATX 80 PLUS Gold --> 90,- (for gpu later)
*KIOXIA EXCERIA G2 M.2 SSD 1TB --> 80,-
*Lian Li LANCOOL 205 --> 90,-
total about --> 870,-
the cheapest way you can start to play most of the online games at medium settings
and in 1 year you can upgrade to a 3060 or something for 330,-
@@MrLince-hr4of monitor, keyboard, mouse?
@@MrLince-hr4of Not quiet, for gaming the 5600g is plenty as a base CPU and for online games esp FPS you really want to be playing at "competitive settings" 😋
@@aliabdelaziz7585 yes 👍
@@earthtaurus5515 first i never sad anything about a 5600g
yes it is not for every game, but there a 1000 of 1000 games ....
ok just a possibility you have the best ultra hight end PC of $5000,- and you playing the first time CSGO you still will be a noob and lose every game 😂 so what ?
for starting this pc is more than good !
and i never say it is a 100% gaming pc, you can do all stuff what you want with it 👍 i work and play 1 year on a less good pc with a 3400g and it was great, lot better than the most people thing ! now i bought a used 1600x and a rtx2060 and it is awsome !!!
make no prejudices ! try it first and than speak - thx👍
Is anyone else super happy with this channel since day 1? Even if there's something being presented to me that is new/ i'm unfamiliar with, it's always nice to watch because of how awesome Jay/his crew makes these videos on a regular basis and it's always so entertaining.
@American Legend did you just really "uhmm ackshully" me by saying it wasn't an overly technical channel? lmao...
I had a Neo Forza RAM kit (16GB DDR4-3200) in my old Ryzen 2600. Microcenter had it on sale so cheap, and I was on such a tight budget, that I basically couldn't say no at the time. Honestly, it worked pretty well. Never had any issues. As with any budget PC part, YMMV...
Jay, greatly appreciate you and your channel. After many watched videos and successful outcomes. Finally subbed 👍
jay you need to do some videos on rig cleaning, like desk mat/mouse pad keyboards, basic cleaning of the pc, monitor cleaning etc.
He has before
Make sure to take the keyboard Outside to blow it out. Stuff will come out.
Thank you for building a reasonable gaming PC in this current market. We need more of these videos to share awareness that sometimes we don't need a "super gaming PC" to play games.
Reasonable, 900$ 💀 I remember the old times when budget PCs were around 500$
@@nunosantos8290 Yeah same but like, at least it isn't 4k.
@@nunosantos8290
Thinking about buying a gaming pc worth 500 usd with mostly used parts. I hope things go to plan.
@@stockehistorica1349 my budget pc that cost 500 usd can play roblox at 200 fps tho the Hz is just 75
@@MiyusTab roblox runs on anything ....
I was just at this exact Microcenter this past weekend to get parts for my build. Long story short, this place is awesome.
Wow Wow Wow Wow! I can't believe you chose me for that wonderful gift. Thank you! So glad that I replaced my closed enclosure desk with a big open one.
This is fairly similar to my first build back in late 2019. I had the exact same graphics card, the same power supply, the same storage drive, and the same cooler. I got a R5 2600X since those were on heavy sale at the time for about $100, and a B450M DS3H WiFi in a Lancool 205 case. Cost me about 600 dollars.
@@SoficalAspects When I look up my specs the PC would now even be more expensive as I paid in 2020 :D
@@spankbuda3084 Well... But not a Gamer PC ;) Or where is your graphic card? How could you even display stuff with your configuration, the 2600X has no APU core.
I can’t even imagine a store like that. Would love to go to one. Feel like we have nothing of the sort in the UK.
Closest one to me, in Florida, is a Microcenter in Georgia
BestBuy is alright but definitely doesn’t have the stock Microcenter has
Not that special. The prices are outrageous on most things now days. My store in Columbus, Ohio is this way atleast. 1500 3080's as of yesterday.
I feel you. The closest thing here is Best buy…….
@@luhgarlicbread there's 2 near Atlanta lol
We have a store called Arlternate in Germany but its nothing like Microcenter. You can get pc parts there, yeah, but they only have like the most basic stuff
In my PC building "prime time" about 10-15 years ago we've been desperately looking for lighter cases. I think the first reasonable aluminum cases we got back then were from LianLi, I still have my PC-60 full aluminum case sitting under my desk. Unfortunately it's just to big so I'm not using it but whenever I can afford some space I'll definitely build another system using it!
love this video. my buddy just got into pc gaming and trying to show him what's up without being discouraged by some complexity
It is interesting to now see prices and parts that you would never think that you could achieve are now becoming more and more obtainable. Great Video!
Getting better, but i bought the 1660 super (Asus Tuf overclocked) for 229 in July of 2020. For once my timing didn't suck.
Prices as a whole are going up, so I'm not sure your statement is very accurate. Nothing has come down in price, and that includes GPUs. Scalped GPU prices coming down means nothing because the MSRP of GPUs has risen.
I miss the 500 dollar budget build days :(
It still exist but now you have to go apu to hit that kind of budget
They are still here. Just buy an empty PC case to sit on and 40 crates of beer. Hf!
Thank you guys for making this video, this really helps
The ports on the top/side of the case and not the top of the front panel is probably to reduce costs in making a more complex front panel attachment. also limits the chance for damaging your io cables when you remove the front panel to clean out the dust if you pull the wrong tab or something. Not sure that the dimensions of the case really are, but an unintentional side effect could be allowing for taller tower coolers!
I know it's a budget PC but I've gone with RX 6600. $70 more but way more performance and would last longer. Potentially it could work with 1440p or even 4k with FSR.
checking this and hearing 1660s in 2022 really hurt my soul. this is terrible advice at the prices atm. zero future proofing while grabbing outdated tech to save a few bucks. if i learned anything from my first blindish pc build 7 years ago is the more you spend now the longer it last and the more you save in the long run.
@@rickylafleur5823
I generally treat purchases as "investments". The investment being time. If I had a choice between paying $150 for something that will last 2 years vs $250 for something that will last 5 years i'll save up and buy the latter ($125 in savings). For the most part this really only applies to GPUs as far as PC's are concerned. But given a fauxdemic can apparently strike at anytime and cause hyperinflation and "shortages" I don;t mind spending more to be prepared. It's not just about "future proofing" for gaming anymore. It's about preparing for future artificial shortages caused by greedy manufacturers.
As a precious metal/gemstone investor I know all about that.
Got that tinfoil hat all ironed out, Joe?
Too weak for 4k dude you need 3080 or 6900xt
@@user-ib5pu9hm1y Implying anyone actually gives a shit about 4k and has thousands of dollars for a GPU in this economy
I used this exact case and had the same thoughts about the flimsy. For the price and fans my build was pretty cool as well with a 3060ti
For 499 you can get a ASUS 3060ti at microcenter.
I built my brother a PC with Montech Air 900 Mesh Case for $66.99 back in 2020. That case is one of the best I had bought for that price. The quality, cable management options everything is good for the price. However, I think now Montech has cut a lot of corners on the quality for the similar priced case in 2022.
MONTECH’s are very impressive for their price.
at least u can a radiator at the top XD
Rly not a bad case wish it was cheaper but it happens
I plan on building a computer soon with a similar budget. Thanks for the video!!!!!!! At least I know what to expect.
Watching this whilst putting my nieces computer together in a Montech case. Good value indeed.
Absolutely love this type of 'insert the amount' budget pc building video/guide, hope to see this more. 👍
This makes me feel rather good about the PC I was able to build about 7 months ago for around $1400. Specs:
Motherboard- Asrock Z590m Phantom Gaming 4
CPU- i5 10600K
Cooler- Cooler Master, Hyper 212 Black
RAM- XPG 16gb 3200mhz DDR4
GPU- EVGA 3060 XC 12gb
Storage- WD Blue SN550 500gb NVME
Heatsink- MHQJRH Black M.2 2280 heatsink
Cables- LinkUp white cable extensions
PSU- EVGA 750w 80+ Gold
Case- Thermaltake s100 mATX (white)
(x4) Fans- Thermaltake Riing 12 120mm, white LED fans
I am proud of sourcing all these parts for the price and this being my first build and it working flawlessly. If you want, you could even add the monitor which is a Lenovo 34" Ultrawide 1440x3440 which was around $450.
All in all this combo came to about $1850. I am REALLY enjoying it! Well worth the money.
Lol that’s almost exactly my pc, as well. I saved some extra money buying a second hand board and chip (z370 pro MSI and i5 8600k) and I have a gigabyte 3060 instead of EVGA (I stood in line at launch to get at msrp), but I’ve got xpg spectrix 3200 ddr4 ram, that same EVGA 750w gold psu, that same m.2 (and an intel ssd 500gb, and a 1tb spinning drive which I had from an old build) all in an older lian li A05-FNA case with lian li fans. I love the pc, performance to cost is really good.
Sweet build!
I did a budget build just before COVID hit in 2019. Asrock B450 MB ($85), AMD 2700 processor ($120), 32 GB (2x16) 3200 ram ($140), EVGA 750 psu ($80), MSI rx580 video ($130), Fractal Design case ($60) for a total of $615, still plays every game solid at 1080p/high without a problem. ( I use it for video editing, not just gaming, thus the extra cores and memory)
that sweet builds
i wee-ing with my new ryzen 7 5800x,B550-A ROG Strix,2x16Gb CL16 Team delta RGB Ram,and salvaged from my Old PC GTX1070Ti Until GPU Price going down again eventually for about $1142(calculated from IDR to USD at this time 2 april 2022) humbly runs game on 1080p high to ultra setting while multitask 2 to 3 game instance and more than 10 tabs browser opened
altough i plan to upgrade my monitor to higher refresh rate and also future proofing my disk space
@@aGrimTurtle Thanks! Quite the upgrade from what I had before, which was an i5 4690k and a 1060 3gb.
Just put my Series consoles up for sale, and finally decided to invest in a PC. Got a good deal on a good prebuilt to start off with, excited to be part of the PC community.
I'm in the process of doing the same, any info would be appreciated, supplier, budget, Price?
I really enjoyed this video. I plan on making a trip to my nearest Micro Center (in Minnesota unfortunately, I'm in Iowa) to get a new GPU soon. Maybe a new build flopping soon after. A video like this every few months to keep people updated on pricing would be so great.
This is promising. In the winter of 2020 I did build a gaming PC with an x570, Ryzen 5 3600 & an R9 Fury for $1,022. I could have done it for around $750 by buying a cheaper PSU, SSD, case, cooler & ram but I wanted nice components. I will say it still does perform well, especially since I'm not playing AAA. I got the GPU for $139 and the value quickly shot over $300 soon after.
I feel like I should be into PC building since I've lived right by a Microcenter my entire life
I'm sure there are a bunch of people out there who wish they were you lol. The only complaint I've consistently heard about Micro Center is from people who don't live next to one (which is kind of a compliment in a roundabout way).
You should fix that by building a PC.
Luckiest dude ever lol
you know how many people would gladly move in with you just to live by a Micro Center, lol.
I have about 6 within a hour of me.:(
360$ for a 1660 super is crazy man, luckily I got my 2060 for 280$ literally a month before all the prices went up
Still a bad deal, but it's been worse.
i got my 2070S for like 400 just before the shortage
@@ipanesm Dang that’s awesome. I got a 1080 ftw for $300 cash in January this year and I think that’s pretty good, but man I really want dlss lol
2060 gang. got mine when i built my PC with that stimmy check we got 2 years ago lol.
@@ipanesm i wish i had the knowledge i have now when i originally built my PC 2 years ago I woulda went with a 2070 super. That was like THE card for the 20 series.
The $500 variation is exactly what I just did. 5600G, 32gb for the memory, Asus Prime A450 board, reused an existing case, 760w PSU and SSD. It kicks tail right now and it is ready for a 6600xt or 3060 when they stop costing too much.
I’m only looking to play steam games really and Star Wars the old republic. Would that variation be enough for that?
@@doctorstrange6818 yup
32gb of memory is a waste, also the PSU is kinda exaggerated (but there's the "future proofing" argument for it, so ok). You can justify the 32gb because you are using integrated graphics, but still...
I've built a few systems for close friends who struggle to afford PC gaming and used Microcenter power supplies. Those are good to go as far as I can tell. Absolutely no complaints.
I bought a MicroCenter power supply about a year ago and I’ve had 0 problems with it. I’ll be buying a bigger one soon
Built a high end rig from the ground up in 2014, finally looking to get a whole new setup...*watches intensely*
It's crazy to me that almost 4 years later the 1660 is still almost $400.00!
Uhhh...it's been only 2 years...
@@reinhard7164 ok I'll change my statement. It's been 3 years since the 1660 launched and it's still almost $400.00! 1660 launched in 2019 I believe that is 3 years.
@@reinhard7164 its a Turing based card so at least 3 years old and 4 years ago was launch for that whole gen.
@@captainkrk88 i guess it crossed 400$ after gpu crisis...
And XFX RX580 8 GB . I bought it 170€ now it's 680€ still 🤯🤯🤯
Jay, this video is eye candy, I tell you ! That shop looks great, wish we had such ones in Europe too :) Take care !
Have been binging your videos all day and they have been super helpful! With a build like this could you change one thing out to meet the requirements of red dead better or would you have to upgrade pretty much everything?
Red dead is pretty much the biggest reason I’m building a pc, so wanting to get something that will run the game with decent efficiency.
Awesome build Jay! Thanks for looking at the lower end stuff from time to time and, keeping it reasonable! 😁 I can't wait for graphics card prices to go down a bit more. Keep up the great work guys! ❤
I love that case, it looks great for static rgb, it looks great with lights off, as long as you try to not break it it will not break
Your videos are like "WOW", that store is fantastic.
I love your channel man. Thanks!
Keep up the good work :)
As mad as i am that i went the long way through evga to get a 3070ti, im excited as more people can get a hold of parts and build their first pc.
Edit: dang this got more likes than all my videos
you're not the only one that got raffled from new egg a 3070ti. It almost feels as if they knew they were going to be overloaded with them before hand.
@@williamjktkd i did mine by getting a 3050 then did step up to 3070 ti cause couldnt ger 3080 from it
@@Jactheking evga posted today they have inventory, they have from 3050 to 3090tis
@@Jactheking sadly I was in que last week an got a 3080 FTW 3 Ultra. I got a 3060 last year from EVGs que.
@@FunTimeWithSouls wow ok that kinda makes me even more mad
I love my Montech case. Its been the best case ive ever owned and had lots of nice features that way more expensive cases have and great cable management. Also the built in rgb on mine looks amazing.
Montech gang, I have a Air 100ARGB and i'm really pleased by it. 4 fans included, ARGB, great temps.
I was just here 3 days ago Jay wish I could have ran into and just say thanks for all the informative videos really helped me out!
Fantastic Video guys, i always love building a low end Machine with way less than you built here and seeing what i score, i think i spend more time doing this than actually playing games!!!
I'm quite happy with my MSI Super Ventus OC 1660 Super I picked up mid 2019 and It's still holding up well for 1080p with most game's ultra settings. Even most 1440p games with more than acceptable settings. I can get the boost up to 2040 core & 5900 RAM. Paired with a Ryzen 5900x and x570, its a little under powered but there's no CPU bottleneck, for sure.
Even my RX 570 8GB don't has much struggle, I don't understand these "But muh 8K"... when I want to see 8K, I look out of the Window :D
I would've gone with an RTX 3050 over the 1660 super for 2 reasons. The amount of Vram on the 3050 is 8 Gb vs 6 Gb and most importantly THE 3050 SUPPORTS DLSS which will make playing new triple a games much more viable as well as run smoother.
Agree, but AMD FSR also does the job just fine, and even though it's not officially on games like Cyberpunk, you can still mod it to utilize FSR
DLSS might be the worst technology for FPS and I would just go for lower resolutions at that point
. unless you are doing a 4K conversion it looks horrible for 1440p and 1080p with the ghosting.
@@flintfrommother3gaming okay? All dlss has done for me in CoD and other titles is give me free 60+ fps
@@ijustlovethisname If you are using an 3050 it's not like you have any other choice. If you are not then good for you, it still isn't good for 1080p and partially 1440p (it's kinda up to personal choice but it's still not great to me with the ghosting.) upscaling . atleast It's better then whatever AMD is trying with FSR. Also using DLSS in a competitive game isn't a great way to use it.
@@flintfrommother3gaming weird. I use balanced dlss 2.0 on 1080p and can’t even notice the difference unless I really look for it. It’s only when I put it it on performance or ultra performance that I start to notice blurring. If I put it on quality then I literally can’t tell a difference. Maybe I just have bad eyes 😂
The price of the cheapest gaming PC makes new gen consoles all the more impressive
Ain't that the truth, like I've got the money for a higher budget pc but PS5s almost seem too good in terms of value.
That Montech Air 1000 case is really nice, actually. I used the "Silent" version in a build recently for a client and it was a super nice case to use.
Looks like 1 cheaper version of the fractal meshify 2 and has 4 fans
Damn, this budget pc is way beyond my budget, time to hit ebay for a PS4
Those are expensive as hell also.
Some PS4 consoles more than PS5 MSRP 🤣
Bruh this guy doesnt know what a budget pc is bro thinks everyone has 1k just lying around find a different channel if you actually want a 400-700$ gaming pc
@@Keykvy if you want a 400-700 dollar pc you might want to roll it back quite a few years Cuz getting decent parts and a GPU for under that is not easy right now, don't blame jay for inflated pricing.
You can build with a 5600G for $500 or under and have a better game play than ps4
I work at a gaming pc store and we’ve used neo forza ram and ssd before and they have been really good so far.
These are my favorite videos to watch and tbh for under $1000 that’s a legit rig to get started with for sure. And I honestly don’t hate the whole build it’s something I would build for a friend and have before.
i've been looking for this for a very long time!
Jayz: Shows cheapest but practical gaming pc build
Also jayz: promotes $1k monitor before hand
since he saved so much $$$ on the PC, there's more left for an OP monitor :D
sponsors are sponsors man I would too
@@Killtacularkevin same tbh haha they undoubtedly paid for that budget pc build I’m sure
@@AKAtheA the poor soul wouldn’t be able to experience that monitors true potential 😭 😂
Yeah a 4k monitor with what,,, 150 hz refresh. Not even the 3080ti can push that, unless it is counter strike LOL
It has been a long time since I've watched "build cheap gaming PC" videos and it's so mindboggling for me to see a 1660 Super for 359$. In October 2020 (right before the market got f*cked) I bought one for 180€. It's just such a ripoff
I know it’s crazy I built my first pc like two months before the first 30 series gpus dropped and I got a 2060 super for 339.
The prices go down slowly
6500XT has the same performance and is $250
@@ChristmasCrustacean1 a 6500xt does NOT have the same performance as a 1660s, I repeat it does absolutely NOT. It has worse performance then a 1650s and rx580 8g, with less v ram as well
seeing you pick the 1660 super made me feel sooo much more validated, im building my first pc (on a budget) and im glad it's still a viable option in 2022
Walter
1660 super is trash IN 2022
@@jonathan-qd1cc is it reliable?
@@josephmazariegos2951 I guess for 144fps 1080p if you have a good enough cpu but just upgrade to like rtx 3060 or rx 6600. Much better than 1660 super. Nothing against 1660 super tho. If you wanna get it go ahead it will get the job done for the next 2-3 years as games become more graphically demanding
thanks! Also I’m planning on building a pc for the first time and I’m using this video as a reference. At the 10 minute mark, is that all the parts that you need to build a pc from that list?
as an enthusiast of midrange and budget builds I really enjoyed that video. You can save so much money, if you shift down the graphics settings a bit. No need for spending thousands of dosh imo
I built mine about 6 months ago for around $1000USD. I’m in Canada so it came out to a little over $1300 after shipping costs cause rural Canada. rog strix b450-f motherboard, ryzen 5 5600x CPU, 16GB ram, hyper 212 RGB edition cpu fan, Corsair 500w Bronze PSU, in a Corsair 4000D airflow, and I compromised on a GTX1050ti for now till the gpu market gets better. I like to tell myself I didn’t do too bad but it was also my very first build. I do enjoy the RGB fans I got for it and think it performs really well as a 1080p pc in most cases. Been able to run elden ring at at 30+fps in 1080p in most areas and 60fps on 720p in a lot of areas of the game and am hitting low to mid 40 FPS in the main open world areas, entirely playable in my personal opinion :P
i got a prebuilt from microcenter for 2500.. 5900/3080, impressed at how much more i got for the price difference. and i spent no time putting it together either
@@bradhaines3142 I wish you the best. I got my first prebuilt from microcenter. They’re not bad, as they build usually w good parts. Just be careful what psu you got. Corsair, evga, seasonic are only brands I trust for power supply.
You did ok. Could have done better but I know it’s tough in Canada and generally more expensive. The motherboard you have is great, top of the line. Case you have is considered to be one of the best. Ram is fine (hopefully it’s at least 3200Mhz and you set up xmp - I can help if you want very easy it’s 2 clicks). But yeah dude not bad at all. Next is a 30 series or amd card and a new power supply (stick w Corsair they are the best)
FYI Newegg Canada has 3080 now at around $1200. Cards are dropping real quick.
@@mannyfresh7065 to be entirely honest I had to return the first psu I got from corsair for a new one under warranty cause it stopped working after 2 weeks :P ram is corsair vengeance 3200MGhz and yes I have xmp enabled :D
The title made me expect something different from the video. I was picturing a 12400F a A series motherboard a 30-dollar case. GPUI prices are still insane. Even if supply get back to normal. I have a feeling the companies will not lower the prices to where they should be.
They will not lower the prices until people stop buying overpriced shit. That applies to everything, not only GPUs.
I've had more trouble with off-brand RAM causing problems than anything else. Totally worth it to buy the top-tier brand RAM as it is reliable. Good choices on your parts! They are about what I'd pick too if I had a Microcenter in Vegas. I really really wish we did. I love OutletPC a lot and it is local to me here, but they don't have a lot of parts in stock all the time like Microcenter does, so sometimes I have to wait for them to order stuff for me. Their techs at OutletPC are top notch and give great advice though, so I talked to them even back when we still had Frys in town and back when Frys was worth shopping at.
One pick I'd do differently would be the case as I really need one with space in the front for optical drives. I still use a lot of software and games that are on optical discs, plus I insist on using discs for my operating systems and will do so as long as possible. When everything goes bonk on a PC, the you can still get the optical drive open, stick the OS's disc in and reboot. I do like the roof of this case though because it has vents in it and you can mount fans there. Ever since I built in an Antec Nine Hundred years ago, I've been a fan of roof vents. Heat rises! It's good that case designers finally realize this and now design cases that let thermodynamics work for you.
I don't mind if a power supply is 'upside down' as long as I can situate it so that it can draw in fresh air from a vent somewhere. My current case: a Phanteks Enthoo has vents in the bottom of the case so I can let the PSU draw fresh air in from the bottom of the case instead of breathing in warm air from the inside of the case. I love it! I also love that this case has vent filters. Got it on a black friday sale, so it wasn't crazy expensive either.
Could have gone with a 1650. I did when I built my new PC last winter because it was the best value for the money in the budget I had. I don't run the very very latest games made though, so I'm plenty happy with the performance I get. Great video! Very helpful for those of use who love to build PCs but don't love maxing out our credit cards.
Awesome video Jay! Thanks
you have no idea how much this video gave me motivation on buying my first PC. everytime I even consider it and take a look at the prices I say naaah. maybe next year. I like the fact that you are including budget pc videos these days. well done
Now is not a bad time to get a PC. You never know if things could get far worse in the future, or some parts not even available.
that being said, the next generation of graphics cards from both AMD and Nvidia are going to be insanely fast, and blow away the current gen.
If you are going for a lower mid range GPU type build, you could wait for Intel ARC in early June, because the prices of those Intel GPUs will be cheaper than what you are looking at right now, for the 3 levels that will be represented by those Intel cards. ( in comparison to whichever relative cards from AMD and Nvidia to those 3 levels Intel is targeting )
If you are building something that you will want to play at 1440p and high settings at 144 FPS or faster, your best bet is to wait until Q3 when RDNA 3 drops.
Or you can build now and buy a RTX 3060 or an RTX 3070 Ti for mid high performance. Or an AMD RX 6600 XT, or an AMD RX 6700 XT, or wait for the RDNA 2 refresh cards and get an AMD RX 6750 XT.
Also you could wait for the new AMD CPUs coming out in a few weeks, like the Ryzen 5 5600, or the Ryzen 7 5700X, or if you want high end performance that is low on watts, get the fastest gaming CPU in the world, a Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which will be cheaper than the Intel Core i9-12900K and of course the 12900KS, and will be faster and cooler and lower power when gaming than the former, and also probably the latter as well.
a 7600 XT will be almost as fast as a 6900 XT, almost neck and neck, according to latest leakers from good sources.
The most important question is, what kind of performance do you want and is that level of performance for older games, AAA new games, AA older games, or some combination of all.
If you want to be able to play at 1080p and 100 FPS with most games, and 1080p 70 FPS with all the rest, all at high settings, that makes it a lot easier to afford, especially if you are getting an RDNA 3 video card to get there.
And for your CPU, you probably don't need anything better than a Intel i5-12500, or an AMD Ryzen 5 5600.
@@Dennzer1 hey you seem like you know a lot about PCs. I’m looking to build a PC on a budget that runs most games on high FPS. I have no knowledge whatsoever. You think you can help me ?
@@ierie8885 Yes I can. sorry about the long delay. Hope this gets to you.
If you want to run most games at FPS of lets say 90 FPS and over, at medium to high ( NOT ultra ) quality settings in the menu for graphics settings of each game...
You will need to start with a $200 CPU.
You can get a Ryzen 5 5600 ( non "X", you do not need the 5600X, just the 5600 ).. and a B550 motherboard.
that's one option, but the PCIe lane where the graphics card goes is PCIe 4.0. Which has a max bandwidth of 16 GT/s
So then, you could instead go with Intel, and the core i5-12400, or the core i7-12600k if you want a little more power.
the motherboard you would get with that CPU would preferably one of the ones that has a PCIe 5.0 slot for the top slot, which again, is where the graphics card goes.
With PCIe 5.0 instead of 4.0, this will allow you to make much beefier GPu upgrades in the far future ( say more than 5 years from now ) because it has more bandwidth.
even the next generation of graphics cards coming out later this year from AMD and Nvidia may in fact be PCIe 5.0 cards, but they will of course still work 100% fine in all PCIe 4.0 and even PCIe 3.0 motherboards.
But since they are early examples of PCIe 5.0 GPUs, that means that the speed difference in games with one of those cards in a PCIe 5.0 motherboard compared to a PCIe 4.0 motherboard may only be 5% different ( just a guess until we get reviews... )
In the future, later this decade, the difference in speed with the same exact card in a 5.0 system vs a 4.0 system could be as high as 50% or maybe even more than that.
I have a lot more advice, but I don't know if you are going to see my comment, so please reply, and let me know you are here, and we can talk a lot more about what you can get while saving the most amount of money.
such as RAM and storage and motherboard and cases etc.
honestly such a clean build asteticly for how it came together, that alone was a nice value hhah
I love your channel Jay, I have just built my first gaming PC and I did it because you had shown me how. However... I feel a number of channels fall into the trap of posting the cost of "a gaming PC" but the whole picture is rarely shared, as they all over look the fact that, there are monitors to be bought, keyboards, mice and someway of delivering sound to the user. Most users building entry level PCs don't have the rest of the peripherals and therefore has to be a consideration for their budget. That's my two cents. Keep up the great work.
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thank you for the build ... loved it
Just built my own pc yesterday with a meshify case. For the first build, I’m really glad a got a solid case.
I started getting parts just before the Silicon Valley hike so I was missing lots of the needed ones that were more expensive. This actually made me kinda forget I had them sitting in the closet until some pc build stuff showed up in my recommended.
Good call. Fractal makes some seriously quality stuff. I've gone with them for every case iteration of my PC since I first built it. I think this video shows you not to cheap out on the case!
@@blooooooooooom It’s just sad for me to see the value of my parts for what I paid before the hike and seeing how much of a difference it’d be now. I think I literally paid maybe $700-800 dollars back then for then for the parts.
Now it would be way above $1k if I waited to get the main components of my build.
Even if it was accidental it good to show that you can build with lowered hardware and still put together a system that looks nice and if GPU prices continue to return towards MSRP you may even be able to build that system $800-$850 by the end of April. Which would feel like a very reasonable price after the last yew years of very high prices.
I wish I had a micro center in New Zealand, that place looks awesome. Nice job on the budget build.
I'm in IT and used to build all of my systems, this time around, just needed a good little budget system, bought a Dell Inspiron desktop with Alder Lake I3, 16GB of ram, SSD and Windows 11 for $499, the integrated graphics work great for my needs, light pc gaming to add to my Xbox and I don't game much. If I get the itch, i'll just add an Nvidia T600 once the prices drop.
What could you buy on the used market with the same budget? That would be a great head-to-head.
Every time I see a Micro Center video, it makes me want to drive the 4 hours away to the closest one near me and spend money. Lol. Their stores are so awesome!
Why not go and make a day of it? 4 hours one way is nothing. Leave early. Get there and have lunch. Shop an hour or two and drive home.
@@freighter1097 True. I'll think about it, lol. Mostly I'm just reluctant because it's NoVA (northern VA) and a shat-ton of traffic. Could be an excuse to go to DC and hit up some of the museums and other places that I like and haven't been to in a long time.
The last PC case that I bought cost me less than $1. It was a bit beat up and dented. Which is great as brand new blinged-up cases scream "steal me!" to every low life that breaks into your home. It was a full sized tower case, so the components inside were happy as Larry. Plus it's more ecologically friendly to reuse an old case instead of buying new.
Buying used may be the most cost effective approach for other parts of the PC - depending on what deals you can get.
My parents were using a used PC from my mom's office from like 10 or so years ago for some time. I think it had an intel 4th gen server grade CPU, but it was sooo slow. I decided to build them a nice one with a mini ATX board and the NZXT H510 case. My mom uses AutoCAD, but it was tough to get a GPU at the time. Ended up getting her a 10700K because it was like $50 cheaper than the standard 10700 lol! Prices during the pandemic were crazy. But the PC runs great!
My favorite cheapo case, the Thermaltake Versa H17 or H18, must have been out of stock. Not flimsy unlike this one, but doesn't come with a ton of fans and is mATX (no biggie, most value boards come in mATX). Its clear that the fans are worth more than this Monotech case! Best way to get a deal at Microcenter is the CPU/Motherboard combo deals, usually good for $20 off. You can sometimes get additional off on RAM and storage from combo deals as well.
off topic.... is he become fatter
I got lucky 2 weeks ago when I went to microcenter. I managed to get a 3070 Ultra FTW3 when I built my new pc. Big difference over my 1070.
Congrats man
How much … I got a 3070ti for 829
Still running my 1070. Looking to go shopping soon for parts to make new rig. Sick find on your 3k series.
@@Mr.Helper. same here for a 3070ti, $829 after tax.
I may have to go with an AMD card this time around. I've been using strictly Nvidia since the Riva 128 came out.
I think a lot of laptops would give this a run for it's money, but if you already have a monitor and peripherals, then it's all your choice/money and you can spend it how you like, just have to consider portability. most laptops above this price point start to gouge you pretty hard for minor improvements, and desktops do have the advantage of upgrading anything gradually.
a run for *its money.
Warm day in cali… it’s 6 Celsius here and raining in Amsterdam. So bloody jealous of you guys having microcentre and nice weather!