@@purplecow_fr why? Chances are you'll end up dead. That prospect dose'nt fill me with light. Don't be so hard on yourself. Do what YOU like. Strength through joy.
I find him expansive and expanding, my mind and soul. His vocabulary alone gets me going. For some, they must pause and search the dictionary nearby. Great! Some people are like “trees” that let the sun in through their branches. “Strength to prevail”, “window into the transcendent” ... words I needed today. Quack? Mmm keep quaking Jordan, some of us get it.
That come from 30 yrs of reading ton shit load of book and literature. So, I think some who talk like a working text book can go to the knowledge base direction and one day they can talk like JP.
@@vehasuwatphisankij8846 he's also done this exact lecture hundreds of times and had to engage bored sleepy college students. Seriously, just search his name and creativity. He's delivered lectures on this topic over and over again. It's a talent he honed with years of work. It's like a standing comedian with a good routine.
I work 50+ hours a week as a college drop out of a career that I didn’t really end up liking in the end. And even now I have always wanted to become a video game developer or video editor and always had so many ideas that I wanted to try out. But by the time I actually get a chance to try out my ideas and try to learn what I love. Fist I’m shunned because I’m not striving to be a doctor. And second I’m told it’s a terrible career choice and that I need too much time to actually make it. And at this point in time I’m sort of in a state of depression. In which I hate all of the jobs I work. And don’t have the time to actually chase my dream simply because I need money to simply survive as an adult. So by the time I get home at the end of my long shifts all I want to do is simply lay down and sleep. Simply because I don’t get enough rest to actually be able to keep my creative mind from falling asleep.
@@rageraptor7127 Sounds rough buddy. Being creative is a burden indeed. But you could still try to do small things. Only as much as you can. Chip away at it, and you will eventually get there! All the best!
To those in their 20's and 30's- PLEASE learn from my mistakes! I'm 54, and I finally established a true "career" path some 15 years ago when I became a public school teacher. To most outsiders I would appear to be successful, but I'm a living embodiment of the price one pays for staying in a profession when it brings very little true fulfillment. I'm a talented writer, musician, song-writer, and artist, but I've been so weighed down by constant indecision my entire adult life that I've settled for the paycheck, in spite of knowing the awful example I'm setting for my sons (20 and 16). I'm begging you to not let that happen to you. Pick something that you really care about and get after it. Life is hard enough; you don't want to be where I am at my age. I'm losing hope that I'll ever get it together enough to make a substantive change. UPDATE: I took early retirement at the end of the '21-'22 school year. It's a massive pay cut, but we'll be fine. My wife will be retiring after this school year after 34 years of teaching! I've spent much of the last 6 months creating ART, and I just signed a 6 month contract to show my ART at a gallery in north OKC. I'm nervous and I keep finding myself looking for a way out, but I'm forcing myself to ignore those voices of fear and lack. Wish me luck! I'll post future updates. I appreciate all the support.
Thank you for this. I really hope you succeed in changing things and creating a more fulfilling life for yourself. I'm a random stranger, but I believe in you.
Never too late, everything happens for a reason. Thanks for warning us and I believe that you can and will make your life worthwhile! I don't know if you believe in God, but I'm praying for you.
I pray that you will find your strength. The prime minister of my country came to office at 93 years old last year. So, maybe there is still enough time for you to make that substantive change.
I do art too but it's mostly just for hobby and fun. Rebecca, if you'd like to drop a link to your art shop (if you have any), I'd really like to take a look at your portfolio!
There's two ways of looking at it. Of course becoming an artist is way harder than to apply for a builder job, but as a builder you can't really climb a ladder like as an artist. Musicians and actors have the biggest houses in Hollywood, I see no one wearing a hardhat living there. Everything has it's importance
@@MrAlexanderLang Technically, the distinction is this- art creates progress, but before progress, you need things like infrastructure and necessities for stability. Artistic and scientific progress are only useful when the backbone of infrastructure is fully developed.
It’s like the quote by John Keating in Dead Poets Society: “We don't read and write poetry because it's cute. We read and write poetry because we are members of the human race. And the human race is filled with passion. And medicine, law, business, engineering, these are noble pursuits and necessary to sustain life. But poetry, beauty, romance, love, these are what we stay alive for. To quote from Whitman, "O me! O life!... of the questions of these recurring; of the endless trains of the faithless... of cities filled with the foolish; what good amid these, O me, O life?" Answer. That you are here - that life exists, and identity; that the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse. That the powerful play *goes on* and you may contribute a verse. What will your verse be?”
I'm an introverted creative person. I am deeply fortunate to have a loving wife. I create lessons as a private school teacher, write screenplays and novels, and play guitar and write songs. I don't make any money outside teaching but I have to keep pursuing goodness, beauty, and truth, even though I get almost no encouragement from the world out there. I'm not complaining.
I'm 22 and I want to quit my current degree (pharmacy) and pursue either English (as a second language), psychology, ooor directing... I also write and play music, and I think a life like yours would be something I would want :D
As an artist I am heartened that there are educated people who truly do understand the artists role in society, for once someone who doesn't relate everything and everyone's value to money
Artists always have a role in society, it's when they try to monetize it is when they have problems. Hard to really make money off passions especially since others tend to get involved who bastardize what you created.
Even then, he DID tie it to money, though more specifically he said value. That’s why he emphasized why he couldn’t stand how conservatives don’t appreciate the value of art when WHOLE INDUSTRIES (Entertainment, Tourism, NFTs, Literature) are backed by art
A creative person is always creative in their mind it never stops it’s more of a curse than a blessing, but the works of art produced by such people are an extension of them selves physically manifested into the world.
Well said there, bravo my friend. The real challenge is actually getting those creative ideas out of one's mind and into the world. Sadly, too many creative people spend their lives in the mundane, never able to manifest those beautiful ideas, concepts, dreams and artworks and bring them to reality. I am one of them, but I am hoping to finally get stuck in and get my ideas off the ground within the next year! Here's hoping
Art shows you the transcendant, because good art is made when artists are "in the zone". The Greeks called this state of mind "amusement". It's when your conscious thinking, your ego and your critical faculties turn off, you begin to operate automatically, and the work comes out perfectly of its own accord. It really is a kind of divine experience, to let the the collective unconscious pour out of you onto the page.
I agree with Nabokov’s view of the artist as enchanter. I don’t think creativity is as passive as the Greek model, which refers to the muses as an external force. Creativity shapes with conscious process that which would otherwise be like a dream, so that we can realize and articulate it coherently.
Nice. I’m no expert but I see this sometimes when playing guitar. I get in the Zone where it’s effortless, deep, open and lucid - a real joy to play and I think it is starting to sound fantastic - then I realise that I’m in the Zone and it all falls to shit. Dagnabbit!! I guess I’m not a good enough player to trust that what I’m doing is right and transcend the internal critique.
I was very unhappy until I took the plunge and gambled everything on becoming a professional graphic designer. Now that I can support myself doing something that I love, I feel like I've won some kind of significant battle. It was a rare moment of clarity for me. It truly felt like I cast an anchor down to my soul and figured something out about myself. And if I never make another breakthrough like that for as long as I live, at least I'll have that. And to anyone else wondering if they should follow their creative passion, my heart goes out to you. Never stop listening to that pleading voice inside, because if you don't feed it, it will die.
So much passion so much emotion in his voice, what he says, he believes it. Or better: he knows the importance of creativity, the depth of creating. Art is so much more than what we think it is. Beauty and aesthetic are so important for the soul. Look at nature. What a creation. The most beautiful art work on this planet is the planet and nature itself. We live in a painting. In a creation.
Amen , that's the one thing I love about God is his ability to create like this universe and all it's wonders and possibilities it hold and just immerse yourself into it
Jordan Peterson really is an inspiring speaker. He has a very genuine spirit and passion that is really touching to listen to. He is also very brave when it comes to speaking about issues that cause him to be seen negatively in many circles. He is truly an intellectual hero.
I've begun to realize my creative side and I've gotta say, Jordan Peterson is spot on once again. Before I was depressed, felt trapped, felt worthless, felt like a waste. Expressing myself and using my brain to create is like lifting weights. I feel so strong and purposeful. I think many people do not realize that they have an underlying creative side that has been silenced by duty and expectation. I started to play the drums and write music. For others it's drawing, fashion, acting, painting, sculpting, athletics. Just go out there and create!!!
I love watching this man talk -- he always looks like he cannot wait to get whatever information in his head to somebody else, even just one person. He's a genuine humanitarian
I really relate. My family hates any form of art, consequently calling me a weirdo and squashing my love for art as I grew up. They're lucky I'm a relatively resilient person and kept up my passion for art despite their negativity, and now they see the value in what I do in relation to being able to make extra money on the side. It's been hard though, having to deal with their hatred for my biggest passion.
You're not alone, Val. I'm a musician and a writer myself and I'm totally devastated sometimes when I see how talented artists can be despised by their families. Ignorance is a sin. Keep up investing your soul, heart and spirit in what needs you. Art needs you as much as you need it.
Keep doing what you’re doing! I was lucky enough to be born in a family of artists, my mom is a sketch artist, my dad does sculpting, and my sister writes stories. They’ve been very supportive of my art, and I realize now that not everyone has that supportive net or appreciation for art, they really should show more respect for what you do. Do not give up in your creative endeavors fellow artist!
Its so difficult being creative. Im a singer song writer, and the need to create and not be held to a 9 - 5 is so strong. Sometimes i have this deep feeling of pain, and yearning for something that I feel like I can't obtain. I crave so much more, and it feels out of reach.
Japan has a high appreciation of aesthetic. As almost all Asian cultures do. But artists still have the stigma of having been put in the lowest caste in feudal times. Don't get the two confused.
Beautiful. I'm 50, and I'm finally going to submit some art again, and risk rejection... But possibly court victory. Denying your creativity is a soul killer.
I thought of J.K Rowling when you said that. I think it was 12 publications that rejected Harry Potter. She just kept working on it and submitting. Now shes the first self made female billionaire. If youre good at something and even slightly passionate about it. Then work on it, become really good at it, and it will just be a matter of time someone will see your value.
I’m one of those people and yes I’m depressed right now. I just got cheated in love, second time. I forgave them, because I’m open and agreeable, but they left me anyway. I’m parting ways with my business partner, because he has ethical issues. So I try to find a flaw in me because I’m conscientious, but after a point, I can’t. It’s an external fault, mistake. And so I can’t change it and that really makes me depressed. I’m just trying now not to get vulnerable, because next time it just might be the death of me.
@@Mystical-wt1cx there are better ways to deal w all these trauma than a youtube comment, hope you get through this bro. good on you for standing up for your ethics w your business
In times where I don't have any spare time to play the guitar, I am very sad and annoyed. When I finally find the time to play it's relaxing, "ahh, I am myself again", it's like a basic need, but not a compulsion.
Which is why I never gonna learn too play a instrument right.. I get that feeling when there are clean and things works I know what too do and not to do .. I like results and things working ..
I can attest to the dying portion, ever since I sold my music gear and stopped playing music I had been deeply depressed, suicidal and shut out to all of the open and creative friends. Though I may not be the best just making something and getting ideas out has made my life immeasurably better.
This very day I told someone that for me, art was a route to the divine. Why was I stunned to learn that Dr Peterson understands that, AS WELL as all the rest? The man has validated my life in a few words. Gratitude is an inadequate concept.
Thank you Peterson. You gave me a reason to believe in my creativity again and not feel guilty that I'm wasting my time. My schooling only valued sportsmanship and academics and left me feeling like what's the point of being artistic. I even had a teacher tell me on careers day "you can't be an artist for a living." But it's inbuilt in me. I can't stop being creative, because it's all I really have.
@@kristophervarga5332 I realise my friend hahaha im just saying. The mad scientist does sound mad. But knows more about what hes talking about that anyone else 😂
Tell that to the school system, where creativity is seen as a waste of time and money, and that it has no value. They want to take the people who can learn fast and spit out what they have in their head and later do something they need and pay them, more or less depending on the amount of people available to do the job. I get it, we need to make food, houses and loads of other products. But everyone one this planet has the potential to be creative and make use of it.
Yes true. Have you went to school or college? I'm going to assume yes, and tell me do you like waking up at 6 AM to go fill your brain with as much information as you can to later spit it out on a piece of paper? Do you feel like learning anything? Chances are if you liked a class it's because you have a passion or an interest in the subject but even that in consideration, the school system is terribly managed. I actually was excited to learn about history, but we don't learn history , we study history, there's a huge difference and if you can't see that I feel sorry for you and your future kids
@Kyle Kadence: But Jordan is wrong in that one. The test he used goes all or nothing, it doesn't really show the level of creativity. It will be like measuring your skills at riding a bike with: Did you ever participated in the Tour de France? If so, won it? Or in the cycling category at the Olympics? If so, won it? No to all of them? Then you don't know how to ride a bike. Plus, like Metal Coasters says, school ruins creativity. So anyone who goes to school will obviously have a really low level of creativity. And everybody is forced to go. There were studies that shown that the level of creativity before going to school was much higher than after a few years, and it only kept decreasing the longer you were exposed to it. (Which I don't have at hand. :( ) I also don't have at hand Jordan's lecture.
Another comment. I think I may have misunderstood Metal Coasters comment which was (paraphrasing) "Everybody has a high level of creativity, it's just dormant." while I thought it was (paraphrasing) "School ruins creativity". School does ruin creativity. But I'm not sure if everybody has dormant creativity. An explanation for so many people having low creativity, is that school ruins creativity. So that doesn't disprove it anyway. I'm not sure if creativity is like IQ (which can go down, but not up, at least no one found a way.), like a muscle (which depletes itself if you use it too much until you rest; the more you use it, the bigger it gets; if you don't use it, it atrophies), or it's a skill. So I'm not sure if it can be dormant or improved. (Are you improving it, or did you always had it, but didn't use it?) About Jordan's creativity test. It was an achievement test. With questions like: How many books did you write? How many books did you publish? How well they did? That heavily depends on you age (ie. Just because a 5 yo didn't write any book, it doesn't mean he has a creativity of 0), training (If you spent years learning how to write a book, you will have a higher success in writing and publishing a book), experience (if you spent years writing, you will write better and have a higher chance of publishing, it doesn't meant you are more creative), profession. (Writers will obviously have more books published than non-writers. It doesn't mean they are more creative per se.) Creativity isn't the only factor on the test. Plus, it's a bad way to measure low levels of creativity. Just because you aren't creative enough to write a book doesn't mean your creativity is absolute zero. (Writing was one out of many categories, but most people hit zero in all categories) A better way will be a performance test, like IQ tests, instead of a questionnaire. The one I heard of was of coming out with as many uses for an object as you could think. Which is the one I mentioned earlier, in which kids had lower and lower results the more they went to school.
As a custom home builder, designer, and Canadian , I was able to relate to this on so many levels. These are good words, Mr. Peterson. It’s a daily struggle for me to bring beauty to this country. People’s aesthetic and understanding of quality is so underwhelming
I would also argue that creativity is not limited to the artistic sphere, as surely it is necessary within almost every other area of life, too. (Apart, from 'creative accounting' ;)) As creativity is the use of imagination or original ideas to create something. It is inventiveness. It is those that think 'outside of the box' that spur the world on in new and exciting directions; whether that is the sciences, mathematics, humanities or arts. Time to be creative in all these areas should be a necessary part of education, and supported.
@ Rosie S: Very true. If we look to science for example, it's the ones who took on experimental ideas, thought outside the box, used their imagination, and challenged the conventions and authority are the ones who had helped humanity to make leaps forward, the likes of Tesla, Einstein, Newton, da Vinci. They were visionaries, and one has to be creative and imaginative to be a good visionary.
you're so right ,I work in a hands on repair trade that requires individual problem solving as per job and after 35 years of mental and physical gymnastics there is no box and I'm considered a god in my trade :)
Exactly. Define creative. Any combination of Art Science and Engineering and any form of design that manifests in a positive useful significant change to your environment is creative. There are careers to be had in all.
I think a lot of people agree with you but won't say so because they don't want any online heat. He is, after all, the current Taylor Swift of influencers although he has a LOT of competition, some of whom are woefully miscast as influencers.
Wucci Mane the link is in description, it’s from the Abraham father of nations talk from the Bible series. This segment ends right around the 46 minute mark ;) peace and progress!
"If you're agreeable, you have to be in an intimate relationship or you DIE" I don't know why I found that so funny, maybe it's the way he said it, but it also made me kinda sad. Of all my friends and immediate family I am one of the few left who have not yet found someone. I have been straight up told by a couple people including my own brother that they were perfectly happy and had plans for their single life until it all changed forever (and for the better) when that person just popped into their life. It's almost as if the ones who aren't seeking are finding, and the ones who truly desire something intimate are the ones who are left behind.
I felt the same way and heard the same thing from other people. I'm in my 30s, and I finally got sick of being single, so last October, I pulled out my list of what I wanted in a man (because let's be real..us single people have all made those lists thinking the right person will then "manifest" into their life), thought very seriously about which state this type of guy is likely to live in, then moved to that state (I live in the US). I met my boyfriend almost immediately and we're very happy together and are discussing getting married. Moral of the story: sometimes you gotta take the bull by the horns and be very deliberate and strategic about your love life. It's not romantic, but in today's society, serendipity just isn't enough anymore. I wish you the best of luck-you can do this!
@@luthiengs thank you I'm gonna need it! I feel like in some ways that's necessary for me as well, but I have no idea where to start. When I was online dating, most all profiles that ever catched my interest were out of state, because where I live seems to be a barren wasteland, both online and in the real world. I'm happy you finally found someone, I'm only 23 and being single gets less fun everyday.
dont rely on dating apps. Go out to places you like, for example an art museum. Talk to strangers about art, doesnt matter the gender. That person could potentially lead you to your soul mate, or even possibly be your soul mate and you dont even know it. Get out there and live.
I have spent the last 3 years going against my true self. I was pursuing a career that I knew would get me a job right at the very end, but it wasn't what I truly wanted to do and I was unhappy. Jordan Peterson, you made me realise why I was so unhappy. It was because in this job, I lost my creative voice. Actually, I didn't even have a voice, I was always just following orders. It took me most of my 20's to figure this out, but as I head into my late 20's I'm now being an active player in this game of life and I'm trying to be the person who I know myself to be. A creative at heart. Thankyou!
One of the hardest-hitting quotes in this whole piece is that "it's nearly impossible to monetize creative action". You'd think with hundreds of years of well-documented proof of the value of a good art and aesthetic, artists would be more commodified or valued assets in a corporate environment (although I say that realizing some artists would be appalled by the idea). I think this really speaks to just how myopic businesses can get, the benefits are too intangible and just don't chart right.
Fully agree with this, there's nothing wrong with monetizing the products of creativity. But the trick is, to create something of such quality that it sells on its own reputation, rather than doing what a lot of creatives do now and obsess over statistics/figures and try to mould their work to fit that
This video really refreshed me on the importance of being creative and creativity as a whole. Jordan really helps me remind myself about things I'm slacking the understanding of.
The Rich Rose except that's not true. Anybody that can't market themselves or isn't practical as well as creative can't. If all you do is spend weeks on one painting and want a month's pay for it, let's say a couple thousand dollars, good luck with that unless you're already pretty well established and have sold paintings for near that amount. You can't put all your eggs in one basket. I'm an aspiring artist and musician and when I start doing it full time I know it will work out, not getting rich but surviving at least, because I want to create in almost every medium and also record and play live music regularly, solo and with a band, and the money I get here and there from all that will be enough and that versatility won't leave me hanging in the balance of 'if I don't sell this piece for a lot of money within x amount of time I'll be homeless'. People are so fast to write art and artists off and that's a huge problem. Like even artists that do it as a hobby can make "a dime". It's all about finding the right audience.
The Rich Rose lol what point were you trying to make? Because to me it read boo hoo artists get no respect or money, which is entirely untrue and pisses me off because it perpetuates the same old starving artist perspective. And that comment comes off that way whether it was sarcastic or not, actually especially if it was supposed to be sarcastic (which is not obvious tbh) and why does it matter because who cares if a bunch of schmucks don't find value in art and don't support artists
A floor sweeper can do the work mechanically or with an artistic flourish of the broom. I used to literally sweep floors, but now I'm a professional artist who makes enough to live on. I find Dr. Petersons' lectures fascinating and motivating.
This comment section is full of bright people talking about their inspirations and what really make them pursuit something more! I wish a room full of you people
It's difficult at times being creative and seeing absolutely nobody react to it or give you any feedback. I spend a lot of time being creative on my social media page. It's amazing that one line jokes and memes get so much attention but something beautiful and deep gets nothing. Society in general is extremely shallow.
It's a reflection of people's lack of intelligence, depth and non existent sensitivity and attention span. It has nothing to do with the quality of your work. I have exactly the same struggle. Keep creating anyway 💗do it for you. The feedback will come eventually xxx
It’s so true… I’ve been creating art for years but never posted it online or shared it with anyone.. I don’t really know why, I guess I just create it for myself, I can’t survive without creating art. for the past two years I haven’t been creating anything, just fallen into a black hole of self inflicted death towards my soul… here’s hoping the relativistic jet is within my reach.
@@Jwaydanofficial WHAT? I STRONGLY disagree. Who the fuck uses social media for "connection" or any meaningful stuff? Its ONLY real purpose is entertainment for majority. If I want to have actually meaningful and deep converstation, I go talk face to face with someone, you gotta be a fucking tool if you condinser social media deep, unless you mean deep as self centricity
Well a lot of memes work of being relatable and familer and that which is relatable and familer easily gets our attention. It can take intentional seeking to notice something great and deeply meaningful. Looking at most social media interfaces, they're not designed for you to linger on a post for a long time as you would an art piece at a museum. It's the instantly gratifying that wins the most attention.
i left a design job working for an architect to follow a path of spiritual healing ( the best decision ever ! cuz i have had amazing experiences and growth ) it is always worth it to risk and stay true to yourself
2:37 We need to keep a foot in the transcendent. This is seriously profound and an important way of thinking for moving us into the future safely. NICE!
He is bang on about Canadians having a fear of beauty! I am in the wedding industry as a designer and tabletop stylist and I constantly confront the lack of beauty in the industry. Everything is over the top and overdone bordering on vulgarity. There is little comprehension of balance and harmony, especially in proportions! There are very few venues that exude that old world grace and charm of European architecture and decorative elements. Most clients and designers choose these large vacant sheels for their space like banquet halls and industrial warehouses or barns (a new fad!). It is so frustrating for me to look at what Europe is doin in the wedding industry and how we pale in comparison. When I try to show my clients or colleagues the altrnative to a stifled and repressed beauty there is so much aversion. Beauty is seen as pompous or ostentatious and something tht needs to be simplified. They always tend to land between the two extremes - simple like peasants or eccentrically outlandish and tacky. Where is the in between?
I hear you. At the same time, I think there’s a place for barn and warehouse weddings; there’s beauty in those, albeit a different kind, and we (Canada) are an agricultural and industrial country after all. I’d be grateful to be decorating a barn or a warehouse rather than the venue I’m taxed with this summer - a community centre hall with zero architectural beauty and no windows.
look up the swedish word 'lagom'. i've found this cultural aspect of scandinavia throughout other european countries, they believe in balance of all things :D
I'm an artist/college student (engineering)... and I've managed to make some of my artworks monetizable; however, I hope to be more than that, a professional in the field that I love so much. The sad part is that many factors are always keeping me in the engineering path, which I believe will kill my soul if I stay in it any longer. I aim to graduate, yet I thirst for a place where I can be both creative and sustainable. I thank Dr. Jordan Peterson for keeping me sane.
From a young age I’ve always been drawn to abstract thinking. Attempting to understand our place in the universe through art and creative engagement. It really can be a curse as you feel so alienated from others. It’s also a beautiful gift to see life in a different way.
As a professional self employed artist for over 25 years plus, Jordan's take on creativity in the 'Exploring the Psychology of Creativity' video and probably this one is so accurate that it's almost scary . But since i'm an artist i have this ability to not care at all lol
I like to define myself as a creative person and I didnt hesitate to take arquitecture as a career of choice because it involves creativity and its also very well paid.
He's right about creatives dying when they can't create. I had a really good and profitable life as a photographer. But an accident put an end to all of it ten years ago. I also used to cook like a pro, but I can't do that any longer. My wife described me to a friend as a shell of my former self. And it's true because that's how I feel. Spot on Jordan.
The value of art is enlightment . It pulls you out of the everyday mud and drag and boredom . It lifts you up and gives a glance of heaven . I was in the Kroller Muller museum a few years ago , standing in front of those Van Gochs ........ An experience I will never forget ! And nearby my hometown we have Den Bosch with its St . John's kathedral built in the 12th century . I know exactly what mr Jordan means !
I’m sorry if you’ve been turned off by Christians or representations of Christianity that you’ve run into over the course of your life. I find Christianity to be the most beautiful, epic romance. The beauty and majesty of the buildings and art just pale in comparison to the ineffable splendor of the Trinity. In a moment of quiet, consider asking God, should He exist, to make Himself known to you. Wishing you ALL the good things, brother. You’re in my prayers.
M Liu This whole idea that we should be grateful servants is a glorification of feudalism and antagonistic to liberalism. If a goal of your religion is to spread it, then I am not interested. The bible even draws a metaphor between Jesus and a shepherd. You have seriously limited your existence, if you are willing to take role as a sheep.
@M Liu i don't think people inherently hate christianity or the message of Christ. They hate the people that follow him because many of them are often quite mean and ironically don't fully follow his message of love.
Julius Sw everyone is a sheep in some way or other. You can’t avoid it, everyone serves a master. But you can choose which shepherd to trust. It’s an incredibly freeing, safe and hopeful feeling to have Jesus as a shepherd. He is the only master who will genuinely put his life on the line for you.
@Shimohira Reika and he was really good at that. Search the Old Courtyard of Munich, shit slaps. His dream of being an independant artist was shattered when he got refused by the art school.
Inspiring video! One way creative people have found to make a living is to find a practical application for their art. In a success-driven world that is consumed by reaching productivity targets and capital growth, I use graphic design, web design and art direction (creative project management) as a creative outlet. True, it is difficult to hunt down people to purchase art prints and paintings as fine art is still a limited field that most don't appreciate, but there is a way to make it work for those who are willing to combine their artistic and technical skills :)
@@itannoysme3348 on contraire. Do you just make art for yourself? If you really care about what you do, you would want a lot of people to see it. Then why not make money out of it, is it selling out to know the value of your work? Are you lying to someone? You have a very bad mentality.
You know I'm a big fan of capitalism for building infrastructure and growing food, but damn if it doesn't conflict with artistic integrity. All of our movies and novels have become mass produced, mass marketed commodities that utterly fail to move people and fade from memory after opening weekend... Maybe artistic ventures need some other way to fund them, something that removes them from normal market pressures?
I think the future of art museums(if they want to survive and be relevant) is to turn more into carnivals or circuses... -but "thoughtful" circuses so that they dispense wisdom(myth) (like what is in Dr. Peterson's lectures.) People need to have a taste of the old with a taste of the new so that they can ease into new territory. Meow Wolf in new mexico or Burning Man are good examples of what future museums will look like. Art is going to be so rad in the next 20 years!B)
Man just look at how the Game of Thrones show dumped down from sky to land since season 4 just because the pressure to rush it and split away from the books. I was deeply disappointed and I wonder if we will ever see another great potential for a decade at least.
Capitalism works wonderfully in a society that is mostly self employed and where wealth isn't concentrated into the hands of a few elites. Unfortunately that time has long passed in America and we are currently living in late stage capitalism.
There actually some decent moving films out there, at least at an intellectual level, admittedly most of them are independently produced or didn't do well in cinemas, and they are relatively few compared to the amount of shit put into the chum bucket each year, but if you look for it you'll always find it
Today I dropped out of college. I went back to school during the pandemic when the entertainment industry went to shit (I am an actor). I decided to go back to school and found myself not creating like I used to. Monologues weren’t being memorized for the sake of practicing and being able to act in the confinement of my home. Ideas stopped flowing and I was miserable going to classes and doing online courses. Here I am one year later and taking my career by the balls again. I stopped my creativity and it was slowing killing me. Thanks Jordan Peterson. It’s time for me to get back to creating again. I am an actor and acting is my art. If I’m not doing that then I am dead.
What defines creativity is one's willingness to feel around a dark room without knowing what they're looking for all the while maintaining confidence that it's there somewhere and that they'll find it. What defines intelligence is one's ability to keep themselves from entering a dark room too big for them to handle, so as not to get lost.
I love this! Beautifully expressed and spot on in accuracy. Thank you!
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I'm so greatful for the appreciation that Mr. Peterson gave to European culture. This is something that most of american people are either too blind and distracted to notice, or they consciously ignore it. It is something that I appreciate the most about Europe in general, along with all the literature works and so many schools of philosophy. Even more than the safety and prosperity that we've built, which are not without a value of course. If Europe should be respected and remembered for something, it is for its enormous cultural, philosophical and scientific contributions.
fair point, but the countries of other continents aren't lacking, they just tend to be overlooked, y'know Eurocentrism. for example, a lot of european scientific discoveries can actually be credited to the middle east
I wish there were a way for all great and creative people to come together. I know there are others out there in the world but it seem we're so far apart. Almost like feeling alone and surrounded by people that don't care to the point you give up again.
P.S. for example I am finding this a year later, and to top it off great things like this only get about 900-1k comments while brain less and unhelpful things get hundred thousands of comments. It's baffling and disheartening at the same time. But thank you for great messages like this for the ones that can use it and still appreciate it ✊🏾
Jordan peterson really has given me a new outlook on Europe. I, as an Austrian, just took every historical building here for granted. I couldn't appreciate the beauty of it and thought that cultures like aztecs, Egyptians, Romans produced way more sophisticated art. But through peterson I came to love medieval architecture and am happy to live in such a history-bound country 🙂
So encouraging to hear this. As an entertainer in the 60s I always felt that the contribution of radio DJs program compilers and A&R people was just as creative as we who made the records and did the shows. Sadly, the advertisers and corporations and accountants shifted the paradigm. “Buy a piece of art” in any way you can, is good advice.. just to be part of a creative process. Thank you Jordan Peterson 🌹
Artists are so undervalued. The problem is the society and its hierarchy: schools, jobs, left-brain usage (logic). When I hit 30 I quit my assistant job, which never made me happy. I dared to finally live my dreams and I established a small company which helps individuals to get better with the help of art and creativity. I trained myself to become a therapist (I was already an artist) and I learned how to transmit art through what I do. I no longer feel terrible of going to a job I hate. I created a job for myself and I help children and adults. I have never been happier in my life! Dear fellow artists, believe in yourself even if no one believes in you. Take some action. Don't listen to those who "know it better than you".
I was told by a client a long time ago that I was charging them 1/4 of what they were paying others. He said, "charge me more!..., you creative people never know how to make money..." I was very grateful to him.
i bought a cheap house, renovated it from the money i got in every month, if i would buy my house now i would have to pay about 400 euros more per month for it.. the money saved after it was done. i spended that on a workshop in my garden. i slowly bought all that i want.. welder , lathe. plate bender, plasma cutter, cold saw, milling machine etc. now i have allot of projects from fixing random stuff people ask for, industrial furniture, machines for a friend who wanted to start a chocolate company etc. and when i see this video i think damn yea.. i have many goals. and i really worked for that. i used to think about selling this house and buy a new fixer upper. but no.. i just want my workshop, my girl wants a nice house, we have airconditioner, fireplace, diy jacuzzi *very decent nice one;) solar panels. no i can have my new projects in my workshop and maybe one day start a company myself. videos like this keep me on track ;)
@@SeokJinKim-gs2in update: sold that house with a profit of 127,5K euros.. i bought again a fixer upper, its a house with 26 garages that are rented out. and a shop. my gf would like to open a kinder garden there. for me its fixing up the house first (heating isolating solar panels, new kitchen new bathroom).. than put in electric garage doors in the garages. and hang camera protection. and only the people who rent can come on my property with a other garage door. and than i can be financial indepentend. and than focus on my projects again. helping my gf with starting her business. and than mine..
Thank you for your passionate defence and appreciation of art and the artist. You keep going up in my estimation the more I understand where you are coming from.
I am a creative person and when I went to the redwoods one of my first thoughts was no cathedral could be this. And stood in awe looking up. I made that connection to those big beautiful churches.
This guy bores me so, i just wish I was creative enough to shut him up. Very boring and he's one of the few on UA-cam i hate but i need to try to listen but i can't make it through his boring sermons. And I am very open-minded and logical (trust me). Watching his videos, it’s easy to conclude that Dr. Jordan the Eggman exhibits the first documented case of the male-cry voice. Maybe he shouldn't repeat himself quite so much either. Jaw dropping achingly irritating. Just so damn beautiful you can't stand him.
This makes a lot of sense, it seems to reflect reality quite accurately. Some people can't live without being around people, others can't live without a relationship, others can't live without a job (or some duty) and others can't live without freedom to explore. I am of the last type-I go fairly well emotionally without people (in fact I love solitude, but I still love people), without a relationship or without a job. What is vital to me is exploration. And thus life is a constant pain to me, not severe but constant. I live in isolation trying desperately to conquer that freedom of exploration, and I will die trying. I think we are all defined by this scheme (or some approximation of it), and tragically some people end up hanging themselves when life doesn't afford them a good fit with their vital personality trait. I feel very distant from ever following that tragic path, I still consider myself a happy person. But my happiness may be fragile, solely maintained by the hope of this freedom of exploration. If you have some insight that could help me, please share. I wish I had someone to really listen to me.
Some people chase money for security so they can do things they enjoy doing in their spare time, like playing the guitar, watching movies, making art etc.. Its funny when they could have just done that in the first place and get paid for it.
Money isn’t everything, but you need it to do basic everyday life. It’s a tool to help you reach your goal, not the goal itself. Regardless of what your goal is in life. Money will be key aspect of achieving it. The problem lies with those who misconstrued the meaning of money and instead treat it as their main goal. (Greed)
There's so much of a tornado going on in my mind I have a circus of inspiration and creativity and sometimes it feels like torture but if I'm not creating I feel like its dying, its a slight war within but its worth it when you change lives and feel the therapeutic joy when you finally do get back on a creative wave. I am a painter/multimedia artist
As a Canadian I see a lot of utilitarian design. More and more as you get farther north. Our most expensive buildings seem to be designed more by an Engineering aspect of beauty than a Architectural beauty. I'm sure the required speed of the build has prevented a lot of creativity from the Architects side.
@Bullyhunterxhunter EXACTLY! I think a lot of the problem in Canada is tje harsh climate. We don't think much about making things beautiful, because we're more concerned with making things that will help us not starve or freeze to death in January.
*clicks on video called "Worst thing for creative people to do" because I see myself as creative* First words: IF A CREATIVE PERSON DOESN'T DO CREATIVE THINGS THEY DIE. This had me on the floor laughing
So he meant more tourists than French people, but even that's not true. France does have more visitors annually than its population, but that's completely different to there being more tourists than residents at any one time. A bit of an embarrassing mistake for someone who clearly has a very high opinion of his own intellect.
Is that directed at me? Why don't you just listen to what he says and then check the facts. "more tourists [in France] than there are [French] people most of the time". The year with the most tourists on record in France was 2015 when there were 84.5 million [tradingeconomics.com/france/tourist-arrivals]. That's the total number for the entire year. The only way for tourists to outnumber French people at one particular moment would be if nearly all of those tourists were there at exactly the same time. So no, no straws.
I said grasping at straws because that was just an insignificant line in a video about creativity. He even said "I think" in the beginning of the sentence, meaning he wasn't sure, because he doesn't really care.
I can hardly differentiate between a) me making art or b) buying art that I relate to and LOVE because the beauty of each individual act of art is a vision of its own
"You often feel tired, not because you’ve done too much, but because you’ve done too little of what sparks a light in you." - Alexander den Heijer
Everyday!
@m.A.A.d i feel you. "everyday do something that terrifies you" , take care
May I join you guys? Feeling the same here and it's awful. I don't know what sparks a light in me, though. No path to follow :(
What a brilliant post my unknown friend.
@@purplecow_fr why? Chances are you'll end up dead. That prospect dose'nt fill me with light. Don't be so hard on yourself. Do what YOU like. Strength through joy.
He's so passionate about what he's saying, not just a talking text book like some. Entertaining.
@Kiel Anderson - lol. Once again intellectual vanity proves itself to be incompatible with self awareness.
I find him expansive and expanding, my mind and soul. His vocabulary alone gets me going. For some, they must pause and search the dictionary nearby. Great!
Some people are like “trees” that let the sun in through their branches.
“Strength to prevail”, “window into the transcendent” ... words I needed today.
Quack? Mmm keep quaking Jordan, some of us get it.
That come from 30 yrs of reading ton shit load of book and literature. So, I think some who talk like a working text book can go to the knowledge base direction and one day they can talk like JP.
@@vehasuwatphisankij8846 he's also done this exact lecture hundreds of times and had to engage bored sleepy college students. Seriously, just search his name and creativity. He's delivered lectures on this topic over and over again.
It's a talent he honed with years of work. It's like a standing comedian with a good routine.
The Dragon Trilogy he is tooo creative about what he is doing and understands totally what he saying such a great person.
"The worst thing for creative people is to not be creative, cuz they just die" I spend all my life waiting for someone to say that... I Love JP
I work 50+ hours a week as a college drop out of a career that I didn’t really end up liking in the end. And even now I have always wanted to become a video game developer or video editor and always had so many ideas that I wanted to try out. But by the time I actually get a chance to try out my ideas and try to learn what I love. Fist I’m shunned because I’m not striving to be a doctor. And second I’m told it’s a terrible career choice and that I need too much time to actually make it. And at this point in time I’m sort of in a state of depression. In which I hate all of the jobs I work. And don’t have the time to actually chase my dream simply because I need money to simply survive as an adult. So by the time I get home at the end of my long shifts all I want to do is simply lay down and sleep. Simply because I don’t get enough rest to actually be able to keep my creative mind from falling asleep.
@@rageraptor7127 Sounds rough buddy. Being creative is a burden indeed. But you could still try to do small things. Only as much as you can. Chip away at it, and you will eventually get there! All the best!
@@gregoryrousseau5155 I guess you right
Me too.
@@rageraptor7127@ Rage Raptor Damm, I hope you can get a job where you can at least exploit some of your creative talents.
To those in their 20's and 30's- PLEASE learn from my mistakes! I'm 54, and I finally established a true "career" path some 15 years ago when I became a public school teacher. To most outsiders I would appear to be successful, but I'm a living embodiment of the price one pays for staying in a profession when it brings very little true fulfillment. I'm a talented writer, musician, song-writer, and artist, but I've been so weighed down by constant indecision my entire adult life that I've settled for the paycheck, in spite of knowing the awful example I'm setting for my sons (20 and 16). I'm begging you to not let that happen to you. Pick something that you really care about and get after it. Life is hard enough; you don't want to be where I am at my age. I'm losing hope that I'll ever get it together enough to make a substantive change.
UPDATE: I took early retirement at the end of the '21-'22 school year. It's a massive pay cut, but we'll be fine. My wife will be retiring after this school year after 34 years of teaching! I've spent much of the last 6 months creating ART, and I just signed a 6 month contract to show my ART at a gallery in north OKC. I'm nervous and I keep finding myself looking for a way out, but I'm forcing myself to ignore those voices of fear and lack. Wish me luck! I'll post future updates. I appreciate all the support.
Thank you for this. I really hope you succeed in changing things and creating a more fulfilling life for yourself. I'm a random stranger, but I believe in you.
Never too late, everything happens for a reason. Thanks for warning us and I believe that you can and will make your life worthwhile! I don't know if you believe in God, but I'm praying for you.
I pray that you will find your strength. The prime minister of my country came to office at 93 years old last year. So, maybe there is still enough time for you to make that substantive change.
things have changed too much in the last 20 years. Introduce your sons to the gig economy.. that is the future. Hopefully they'll thrive.
@Barnabas Blackthorne McTavish What field of work is your "shitty job"? And what are you doing to switch to a more fulfilling job?
Jordan Peterson: buy art
me, an artist: yes, buy art
Where can I see/buy your art?
Drop that merch link
Lol this made me chuckle
I do art too but it's mostly just for hobby and fun. Rebecca, if you'd like to drop a link to your art shop (if you have any), I'd really like to take a look at your portfolio!
Amen!!!!!!
"An artist who stops making art is committing emotional suicide. Get off the couch and start painting again." ~ Unknown
I have made some exclusive stuff, and I have ideas for more, lost interest in lot , can’t get my mind off, what I can’t get
Easier said.
Facts
@@potatowarrior747 why? just do it man it’ll get easier over time. You’ll be so happy you did!
@@ree2006 thanks dude...I'm trying...but never seem to be constant...thanks for that tho
Art is the most underappreciated and most valuable thing humans do.
muscledog666 art, music I would agree. I don't know what this world would be like without art or music
There's two ways of looking at it. Of course becoming an artist is way harder than to apply for a builder job, but as a builder you can't really climb a ladder like as an artist. Musicians and actors have the biggest houses in Hollywood, I see no one wearing a hardhat living there. Everything has it's importance
No it's not, i'd rather have a hospital, or a solid building to sleep in, or none poisonous food, art is like 99th out of a 100 on the list.
@@MrAlexanderLang Technically, the distinction is this- art creates progress, but before progress, you need things like infrastructure and necessities for stability. Artistic and scientific progress are only useful when the backbone of infrastructure is fully developed.
It’s like the quote by John Keating in Dead Poets Society:
“We don't read and write poetry because it's cute. We read and write poetry because we are members of the human race. And the human race is filled with passion. And medicine, law, business, engineering, these are noble pursuits and necessary to sustain life. But poetry, beauty, romance, love, these are what we stay alive for. To quote from Whitman, "O me! O life!... of the questions of these recurring; of the endless trains of the faithless... of cities filled with the foolish; what good amid these, O me, O life?" Answer. That you are here - that life exists, and identity; that the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse. That the powerful play *goes on* and you may contribute a verse. What will your verse be?”
I'm an introverted creative person. I am deeply fortunate to have a loving wife. I create lessons as a private school teacher, write screenplays and novels, and play guitar and write songs. I don't make any money outside teaching but I have to keep pursuing goodness, beauty, and truth, even though I get almost no encouragement from the world out there. I'm not complaining.
Carry on creating art!!! The planets need you.
@@saurabhverma7366 agreed! This is what it means to be human. We were created to create. We learn, we grow, we build. Keep it up!
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I'm 22 and I want to quit my current degree (pharmacy) and pursue either English (as a second language), psychology, ooor directing... I also write and play music, and I think a life like yours would be something I would want :D
@@friedlemon5172 Don't think you can't be creative as a pharmacist, as well as do a lot of good for others and make a decent living!
As an artist I am heartened that there are educated people who truly do understand the artists role in society, for once someone who doesn't relate everything and everyone's value to money
I agree, success should not be measured in money, but in the joy of life
Artists always have a role in society, it's when they try to monetize it is when they have problems. Hard to really make money off passions especially since others tend to get involved who bastardize what you created.
Even then, he DID tie it to money, though more specifically he said value. That’s why he emphasized why he couldn’t stand how conservatives don’t appreciate the value of art when WHOLE INDUSTRIES (Entertainment, Tourism, NFTs, Literature) are backed by art
@@geneanthony3421 as a former gamer, that last point is a sad truth
A creative person is always creative in their mind it never stops it’s more of a curse than a blessing, but the works of art produced by such people are an extension of them selves physically manifested into the world.
Oh yeah. I feel that ''rather a curse than a blessing'' man..
Well said there, bravo my friend. The real challenge is actually getting those creative ideas out of one's mind and into the world. Sadly, too many creative people spend their lives in the mundane, never able to manifest those beautiful ideas, concepts, dreams and artworks and bring them to reality. I am one of them, but I am hoping to finally get stuck in and get my ideas off the ground within the next year! Here's hoping
What a dull view on creativity when many positive outcomes are possible (coming from a hyper creative individual)
@@JesuisParte then do it for beauty not yourself
@@gregoryrousseau5155 good luck mate
Art shows you the transcendant, because good art is made when artists are "in the zone". The Greeks called this state of mind "amusement". It's when your conscious thinking, your ego and your critical faculties turn off, you begin to operate automatically, and the work comes out perfectly of its own accord.
It really is a kind of divine experience, to let the the collective unconscious pour out of you onto the page.
You become an apprentice to the Original Artist, the Primary Creator. We were made, in His image, for this very purpose.
Nice
@Beef Chavez Truth! Your words are golden truth.
I agree with Nabokov’s view of the artist as enchanter. I don’t think creativity is as passive as the Greek model, which refers to the muses as an external force. Creativity shapes with conscious process that which would otherwise be like a dream, so that we can realize and articulate it coherently.
Nice. I’m no expert but I see this sometimes when playing guitar. I get in the Zone where it’s effortless, deep, open and lucid - a real joy to play and I think it is starting to sound fantastic - then I realise that I’m in the Zone and it all falls to shit. Dagnabbit!!
I guess I’m not a good enough player to trust that what I’m doing is right and transcend the internal critique.
That's so impressive that in comments there are a lot of creative people, who really do care. Guys, wish all the best to you. To us
I was very unhappy until I took the plunge and gambled everything on becoming a professional graphic designer. Now that I can support myself doing something that I love, I feel like I've won some kind of significant battle. It was a rare moment of clarity for me. It truly felt like I cast an anchor down to my soul and figured something out about myself. And if I never make another breakthrough like that for as long as I live, at least I'll have that.
And to anyone else wondering if they should follow their creative passion, my heart goes out to you. Never stop listening to that pleading voice inside, because if you don't feed it, it will die.
Beautiful example. It is a plunge. You have an outstanding wife. From my perspective though you can crush down creativity but it doesn’t die for some.
So much passion so much emotion in his voice, what he says, he believes it. Or better: he knows the importance of creativity, the depth of creating. Art is so much more than what we think it is. Beauty and aesthetic are so important for the soul. Look at nature. What a creation. The most beautiful art work on this planet is the planet and nature itself. We live in a painting. In a creation.
well said.
Amen , that's the one thing I love about God is his ability to create like this universe and all it's wonders and possibilities it hold and just immerse yourself into it
Glory to Yahweh God! 🙌✝️🙌
Now I understand what's wrong with me. I died.
Word !!!!!
r.i.p
Marcus Aurelius couldn't work out what was wrong with himself?!
Something fishy is going on here 🤔
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Come back marc
"Buy a damn piece of art, you know?" I love it
That would be fantastic! My website awaits your purchase. Thank you!
@@RoopaDudleyPaintings XD.
@@occosaijelsem ?
I'd rather create the piece of art.
@@RoopaDudleyPaintings i saw funny how you took advantage of the sittuation
Jordan Peterson really is an inspiring speaker. He has a very genuine spirit and passion that is really touching to listen to. He is also very brave when it comes to speaking about issues that cause him to be seen negatively in many circles. He is truly an intellectual hero.
I've begun to realize my creative side and I've gotta say, Jordan Peterson is spot on once again. Before I was depressed, felt trapped, felt worthless, felt like a waste. Expressing myself and using my brain to create is like lifting weights. I feel so strong and purposeful. I think many people do not realize that they have an underlying creative side that has been silenced by duty and expectation. I started to play the drums and write music. For others it's drawing, fashion, acting, painting, sculpting, athletics. Just go out there and create!!!
Man its difficult for creative people to even survive in a capitalist world. Most of us creatives kill ourselves everyday before we go to work
I love watching this man talk -- he always looks like he cannot wait to get whatever information in his head to somebody else, even just one person. He's a genuine humanitarian
I really relate. My family hates any form of art, consequently calling me a weirdo and squashing my love for art as I grew up. They're lucky I'm a relatively resilient person and kept up my passion for art despite their negativity, and now they see the value in what I do in relation to being able to make extra money on the side. It's been hard though, having to deal with their hatred for my biggest passion.
They are possibly only hating because they themselves are not as creative as you. People that cant understand things, usually neglect it.
I can relate Val. Much respect!
You're not alone, Val. I'm a musician and a writer myself and I'm totally devastated sometimes when I see how talented artists can be despised by their families. Ignorance is a sin. Keep up investing your soul, heart and spirit in what needs you. Art needs you as much as you need it.
Keep doing what you’re doing! I was lucky enough to be born in a family of artists, my mom is a sketch artist, my dad does sculpting, and my sister writes stories. They’ve been very supportive of my art, and I realize now that not everyone has that supportive net or appreciation for art, they really should show more respect for what you do. Do not give up in your creative endeavors fellow artist!
I have never seen a professor speak with such a passion.
Its so difficult being creative. Im a singer song writer, and the need to create and not be held to a 9 - 5 is so strong. Sometimes i have this deep feeling of pain, and yearning for something that I feel like I can't obtain. I crave so much more, and it feels out of reach.
I just resigned my boring office job yesterday, so that I can pursue my dream of starting and owning my own business. Wish me luck! 💪🏼
How has it been?
Yea
How is it going?
Probably caught up in business :)
Hope all is going well for you
"a real piece of art is a window into the transcendent..."
Beautiful.
Wow synchronization as he said it
Know what this talk reminds me of? Japan. Conservative yet a high appreciation of art.
Roti Wokeman he's talking about fiscally conservative not as a culture
Japan has a high appreciation of aesthetic. As almost all Asian cultures do. But artists still have the stigma of having been put in the lowest caste in feudal times. Don't get the two confused.
Jordan Peterson is Japan
Besides, for building something for 300 years I think conservative and socialist people are required.
But also they have very high discipline and have a very poetic view of life simply from their very weird language.
Beautiful. I'm 50, and I'm finally going to submit some art again, and risk rejection... But possibly court victory. Denying your creativity is a soul killer.
Tony Wicks - C2D4 Comics you’re regret not trying more in the end, don’t give up ! Keep going :)
Hell yah do it
don't ever stop trying
I thought of J.K Rowling when you said that. I think it was 12 publications that rejected Harry Potter. She just kept working on it and submitting. Now shes the first self made female billionaire.
If youre good at something and even slightly passionate about it. Then work on it, become really good at it, and it will just be a matter of time someone will see your value.
Sounds like someone who was very open, extraverted, conscientious, and agreeable would need a really specific life to not be depressed
that's why they're all depressed lol
@@thatguybob6088 Haha.
I’m one of those people and yes I’m depressed right now. I just got cheated in love, second time. I forgave them, because I’m open and agreeable, but they left me anyway. I’m parting ways with my business partner, because he has ethical issues. So I try to find a flaw in me because I’m conscientious, but after a point, I can’t. It’s an external fault, mistake. And so I can’t change it and that really makes me depressed. I’m just trying now not to get vulnerable, because next time it just might be the death of me.
@@Mystical-wt1cx there are better ways to deal w all these trauma than a youtube comment, hope you get through this bro. good on you for standing up for your ethics w your business
@@myanimation8987 Sometimes people just want to be listened. :)
I’ve never had someone explain how I’ve been feeling recently in under 5 mins
"The creative soul is blessed, or cursed, with the need to make something out of nothing in either things or self." - brian padrick drake
In times where I don't have any spare time to play the guitar, I am very sad and annoyed. When I finally find the time to play it's relaxing, "ahh, I am myself again", it's like a basic need, but not a compulsion.
Which is why I never gonna learn too play a instrument right.. I get that feeling when there are clean and things works I know what too do and not to do .. I like results and things working ..
I can attest to the dying portion, ever since I sold my music gear and stopped playing music I had been deeply depressed, suicidal and shut out to all of the open and creative friends. Though I may not be the best just making something and getting ideas out has made my life immeasurably better.
This very day I told someone that for me, art was a route to the divine. Why was I stunned to learn that Dr Peterson understands that, AS WELL as all the rest? The man has validated my life in a few words. Gratitude is an inadequate concept.
Thank you Peterson. You gave me a reason to believe in my creativity again and not feel guilty that I'm wasting my time. My schooling only valued sportsmanship and academics and left me feeling like what's the point of being artistic. I even had a teacher tell me on careers day "you can't be an artist for a living."
But it's inbuilt in me. I can't stop being creative, because it's all I really have.
Sounds like a bad teacher. Good luck!
I like to imagine this man is actually in a room by himself just rambling...
He’s practicing to deliver his god like speeches
Thats what anyone who truely understands what they're talking about (or is closely trying to) sounds like.
Why would they lie or mislead nobody...
@@adamthomas7542 Aw I’m not suggesting that. I was just making a silly joke.
@@kristophervarga5332 I realise my friend hahaha im just saying. The mad scientist does sound mad.
But knows more about what hes talking about that anyone else 😂
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhahahahahahaahahhahaahahhaahhahaha. Too fucken good
Tell that to the school system, where creativity is seen as a waste of time and money, and that it has no value. They want to take the people who can learn fast and spit out what they have in their head and later do something they need and pay them, more or less depending on the amount of people available to do the job. I get it, we need to make food, houses and loads of other products. But everyone one this planet has the potential to be creative and make use of it.
Metal Coasters not true
Yes true. Have you went to school or college? I'm going to assume yes, and tell me do you like waking up at 6 AM to go fill your brain with as much information as you can to later spit it out on a piece of paper? Do you feel like learning anything? Chances are if you liked a class it's because you have a passion or an interest in the subject but even that in consideration, the school system is terribly managed. I actually was excited to learn about history, but we don't learn history , we study history, there's a huge difference and if you can't see that I feel sorry for you and your future kids
Maybe they are creative but don't know it... can you link me the video?
@Kyle Kadence: But Jordan is wrong in that one. The test he used goes all or nothing, it doesn't really show the level of creativity. It will be like measuring your skills at riding a bike with: Did you ever participated in the Tour de France? If so, won it? Or in the cycling category at the Olympics? If so, won it? No to all of them? Then you don't know how to ride a bike.
Plus, like Metal Coasters says, school ruins creativity. So anyone who goes to school will obviously have a really low level of creativity. And everybody is forced to go. There were studies that shown that the level of creativity before going to school was much higher than after a few years, and it only kept decreasing the longer you were exposed to it. (Which I don't have at hand. :( )
I also don't have at hand Jordan's lecture.
Another comment. I think I may have misunderstood Metal Coasters comment which was (paraphrasing) "Everybody has a high level of creativity, it's just dormant." while I thought it was (paraphrasing) "School ruins creativity".
School does ruin creativity. But I'm not sure if everybody has dormant creativity. An explanation for so many people having low creativity, is that school ruins creativity. So that doesn't disprove it anyway.
I'm not sure if creativity is like IQ (which can go down, but not up, at least no one found a way.), like a muscle (which depletes itself if you use it too much until you rest; the more you use it, the bigger it gets; if you don't use it, it atrophies), or it's a skill. So I'm not sure if it can be dormant or improved. (Are you improving it, or did you always had it, but didn't use it?)
About Jordan's creativity test. It was an achievement test. With questions like: How many books did you write? How many books did you publish? How well they did?
That heavily depends on you age (ie. Just because a 5 yo didn't write any book, it doesn't mean he has a creativity of 0), training (If you spent years learning how to write a book, you will have a higher success in writing and publishing a book), experience (if you spent years writing, you will write better and have a higher chance of publishing, it doesn't meant you are more creative), profession. (Writers will obviously have more books published than non-writers. It doesn't mean they are more creative per se.) Creativity isn't the only factor on the test. Plus, it's a bad way to measure low levels of creativity. Just because you aren't creative enough to write a book doesn't mean your creativity is absolute zero. (Writing was one out of many categories, but most people hit zero in all categories)
A better way will be a performance test, like IQ tests, instead of a questionnaire. The one I heard of was of coming out with as many uses for an object as you could think. Which is the one I mentioned earlier, in which kids had lower and lower results the more they went to school.
As a custom home builder, designer, and Canadian , I was able to relate to this on so many levels. These are good words, Mr. Peterson. It’s a daily struggle for me to bring beauty to this country. People’s aesthetic and understanding of quality is so underwhelming
I hope you haven't given up on your mission
I would also argue that creativity is not limited to the artistic sphere, as surely it is necessary within almost every other area of life, too. (Apart, from 'creative accounting' ;)) As creativity is the use of imagination or original ideas to create something. It is inventiveness. It is those that think 'outside of the box' that spur the world on in new and exciting directions; whether that is the sciences, mathematics, humanities or arts. Time to be creative in all these areas should be a necessary part of education, and supported.
Benjamin Rood exactly. creativity becomes Art when it Trancends it's materials. it's not inventiveness.
@ Rosie S: Very true. If we look to science for example, it's the ones who took on experimental ideas, thought outside the box, used their imagination, and challenged the conventions and authority are the ones who had helped humanity to make leaps forward, the likes of Tesla, Einstein, Newton, da Vinci. They were visionaries, and one has to be creative and imaginative to be a good visionary.
I'm an accountant and my balanced books are as much a window on the transcendent as anything Rodin ever sculpted...
you're so right ,I work in a hands on repair trade that requires individual problem solving as per job and after 35 years of mental and physical gymnastics there is no box and I'm considered a god in my trade :)
Exactly. Define creative. Any combination of Art Science and Engineering and any form of design that manifests in a positive useful significant change to your environment is creative. There are careers to be had in all.
"If your agreeable you have to be in an intimate relationship." This is me 100%.
you're*
the most coherent i've seen him speak. This monologue has truly inspired me.
I think a lot of people agree with you but won't say so because they don't want any online heat. He is, after all, the current Taylor Swift of influencers although he has a LOT of competition, some of whom are woefully miscast as influencers.
I just had to laugh when you cut him off at 4:26 like "sorry dear viewers Mr. Peterson is not going to get back on topic".
Lmfao exactly how I felt. I love his rambles though, I do the same thing.
John Smith he gets complex topics needs long drawn out stories to reach a broader audience, genius really
Wucci Mane the link is in description, it’s from the Abraham father of nations talk from the Bible series. This segment ends right around the 46 minute mark ;) peace and progress!
Dr.
Yes, that seems to be his problem in EVERY video I watch by him, and this is beginning to make me mad
"If you're agreeable, you have to be in an intimate relationship or you DIE"
I don't know why I found that so funny, maybe it's the way he said it, but it also made me kinda sad. Of all my friends and immediate family I am one of the few left who have not yet found someone. I have been straight up told by a couple people including my own brother that they were perfectly happy and had plans for their single life until it all changed forever (and for the better) when that person just popped into their life.
It's almost as if the ones who aren't seeking are finding, and the ones who truly desire something intimate are the ones who are left behind.
Don't worry, stranger. I'm in the same boat as you are...I'm...not sure if that's supposed to be comforting but atleast you're not alone.
@@thegrammarpolice69 one day it'll happen... maybe the answer is letting it go, like you only stumble across Narnia when you're not looking for it.
I felt the same way and heard the same thing from other people. I'm in my 30s, and I finally got sick of being single, so last October, I pulled out my list of what I wanted in a man (because let's be real..us single people have all made those lists thinking the right person will then "manifest" into their life), thought very seriously about which state this type of guy is likely to live in, then moved to that state (I live in the US). I met my boyfriend almost immediately and we're very happy together and are discussing getting married. Moral of the story: sometimes you gotta take the bull by the horns and be very deliberate and strategic about your love life. It's not romantic, but in today's society, serendipity just isn't enough anymore. I wish you the best of luck-you can do this!
@@luthiengs thank you I'm gonna need it! I feel like in some ways that's necessary for me as well, but I have no idea where to start. When I was online dating, most all profiles that ever catched my interest were out of state, because where I live seems to be a barren wasteland, both online and in the real world.
I'm happy you finally found someone, I'm only 23 and being single gets less fun everyday.
dont rely on dating apps. Go out to places you like, for example an art museum. Talk to strangers about art, doesnt matter the gender. That person could potentially lead you to your soul mate, or even possibly be your soul mate and you dont even know it. Get out there and live.
I have spent the last 3 years going against my true self. I was pursuing a career that I knew would get me a job right at the very end, but it wasn't what I truly wanted to do and I was unhappy. Jordan Peterson, you made me realise why I was so unhappy. It was because in this job, I lost my creative voice. Actually, I didn't even have a voice, I was always just following orders. It took me most of my 20's to figure this out, but as I head into my late 20's I'm now being an active player in this game of life and I'm trying to be the person who I know myself to be. A creative at heart. Thankyou!
One of the hardest-hitting quotes in this whole piece is that "it's nearly impossible to monetize creative action". You'd think with hundreds of years of well-documented proof of the value of a good art and aesthetic, artists would be more commodified or valued assets in a corporate environment (although I say that realizing some artists would be appalled by the idea). I think this really speaks to just how myopic businesses can get, the benefits are too intangible and just don't chart right.
Fully agree with this, there's nothing wrong with monetizing the products of creativity. But the trick is, to create something of such quality that it sells on its own reputation, rather than doing what a lot of creatives do now and obsess over statistics/figures and try to mould their work to fit that
I love how he talks about the significance of beauty, not of people but of things, experiences, feelings..
This video really refreshed me on the importance of being creative and creativity as a whole. Jordan really helps me remind myself about things I'm slacking the understanding of.
All that value yet most artists can't make a dime.
The Rich Rose except that's not true. Anybody that can't market themselves or isn't practical as well as creative can't. If all you do is spend weeks on one painting and want a month's pay for it, let's say a couple thousand dollars, good luck with that unless you're already pretty well established and have sold paintings for near that amount. You can't put all your eggs in one basket. I'm an aspiring artist and musician and when I start doing it full time I know it will work out, not getting rich but surviving at least, because I want to create in almost every medium and also record and play live music regularly, solo and with a band, and the money I get here and there from all that will be enough and that versatility won't leave me hanging in the balance of 'if I don't sell this piece for a lot of money within x amount of time I'll be homeless'. People are so fast to write art and artists off and that's a huge problem. Like even artists that do it as a hobby can make "a dime". It's all about finding the right audience.
dman you missed my point, which ironically is your 3rd to last sentence.
The Rich Rose lol what point were you trying to make? Because to me it read boo hoo artists get no respect or money, which is entirely untrue and pisses me off because it perpetuates the same old starving artist perspective. And that comment comes off that way whether it was sarcastic or not, actually especially if it was supposed to be sarcastic (which is not obvious tbh) and why does it matter because who cares if a bunch of schmucks don't find value in art and don't support artists
Hey *I* made a dime!
Well, I mean, I found one.
The Rich Rose exactly
A floor sweeper can do the work mechanically or with an artistic flourish of the broom. I used to literally sweep floors, but now I'm a professional artist who makes enough to live on. I find Dr. Petersons' lectures fascinating and motivating.
This comment section is full of bright people talking about their inspirations and what really make them pursuit something more! I wish a room full of you people
It's difficult at times being creative and seeing absolutely nobody react to it or give you any feedback. I spend a lot of time being creative on my social media page. It's amazing that one line jokes and memes get so much attention but something beautiful and deep gets nothing. Society in general is extremely shallow.
It's a reflection of people's lack of intelligence, depth and non existent sensitivity and attention span. It has nothing to do with the quality of your work. I have exactly the same struggle. Keep creating anyway 💗do it for you. The feedback will come eventually xxx
It’s so true… I’ve been creating art for years but never posted it online or shared it with anyone.. I don’t really know why, I guess I just create it for myself, I can’t survive without creating art. for the past two years I haven’t been creating anything, just fallen into a black hole of self inflicted death towards my soul… here’s hoping the relativistic jet is within my reach.
@@Jwaydanofficial WHAT? I STRONGLY disagree. Who the fuck uses social media for "connection" or any meaningful stuff? Its ONLY real purpose is entertainment for majority.
If I want to have actually meaningful and deep converstation, I go talk face to face with someone, you gotta be a fucking tool if you condinser social media deep, unless you mean deep as self centricity
@@rabidL3M0NS Yep, because you dont create it with goal of getting validation, but for relaxing/creating itself, sounds great.
Well a lot of memes work of being relatable and familer and that which is relatable and familer easily gets our attention. It can take intentional seeking to notice something great and deeply meaningful.
Looking at most social media interfaces, they're not designed for you to linger on a post for a long time as you would an art piece at a museum. It's the instantly gratifying that wins the most attention.
i left a design job working for an architect to follow a path of spiritual healing ( the best decision ever ! cuz i have had amazing experiences and growth ) it is always worth it to risk and stay true to yourself
I feel half dead most of the time.
I feel mostly dead but only half of the time
I feel most of the time but I'm half dead
I often feel sad and disliked that is why I draw all the time. The pictures are always bright, colorful and cheerful.
Nice. Now you can get reborn, my friend. Be a phoenix. °-°
Corporate Western Society: "What kind of job you want, fam?"
Creative People: "Just fuck my shit up."
Creativity is what pushes society forward at its best
2:37 We need to keep a foot in the transcendent. This is seriously profound and an important way of thinking for moving us into the future safely. NICE!
Some things I don't agree with sometimes or understand. But this guy's passion is slowly winning me over.
He is bang on about Canadians having a fear of beauty! I am in the wedding industry as a designer and tabletop stylist and I constantly confront the lack of beauty in the industry. Everything is over the top and overdone bordering on vulgarity. There is little comprehension of balance and harmony, especially in proportions! There are very few venues that exude that old world grace and charm of European architecture and decorative elements. Most clients and designers choose these large vacant sheels for their space like banquet halls and industrial warehouses or barns (a new fad!). It is so frustrating for me to look at what Europe is doin in the wedding industry and how we pale in comparison. When I try to show my clients or colleagues the altrnative to a stifled and repressed beauty there is so much aversion. Beauty is seen as pompous or ostentatious and something tht needs to be simplified. They always tend to land between the two extremes - simple like peasants or eccentrically outlandish and tacky. Where is the in between?
You are leaving out what a pain in the ass it is to set up your complicated "beautiful" tabletop/banquet designs
I thought he said ”duty”
get over yourself
I hear you. At the same time, I think there’s a place for barn and warehouse weddings; there’s beauty in those, albeit a different kind, and we (Canada) are an agricultural and industrial country after all.
I’d be grateful to be decorating a barn or a warehouse rather than the venue I’m taxed with this summer - a community centre hall with zero architectural beauty and no windows.
look up the swedish word 'lagom'. i've found this cultural aspect of scandinavia throughout other european countries, they believe in balance of all things :D
I'm an artist/college student (engineering)... and I've managed to make some of my artworks monetizable; however, I hope to be more than that, a professional in the field that I love so much. The sad part is that many factors are always keeping me in the engineering path, which I believe will kill my soul if I stay in it any longer. I aim to graduate, yet I thirst for a place where I can be both creative and sustainable. I thank Dr. Jordan Peterson for keeping me sane.
Art + engineering = design
@@mrnoodle999 could always do video game design
I've finally accepted my curse, and I'm coming to life.
Beautiful
Same
Gift - let's get rid of 'curse' because it certainly isn't that
@@triconcert you're right
From a young age I’ve always been drawn to abstract thinking. Attempting to understand our place in the universe through art and creative engagement. It really can be a curse as you feel so alienated from others. It’s also a beautiful gift to see life in a different way.
As a professional self employed artist for over 25 years plus, Jordan's take on creativity in the 'Exploring the Psychology of Creativity' video and probably this one is so accurate that it's almost scary . But since i'm an artist i have this ability to not care at all lol
I like to define myself as a creative person and I didnt hesitate to take arquitecture as a career of choice because it involves creativity and its also very well paid.
As artist, I totally agree. You just die inside if you're not able to express your art.
He's right about creatives dying when they can't create. I had a really good and profitable life as a photographer. But an accident put an end to all of it ten years ago. I also used to cook like a pro, but I can't do that any longer. My wife described me to a friend as a shell of my former self.
And it's true because that's how I feel. Spot on Jordan.
Hmm... are there any other ways you can still create, or perhaps ways to learn to create anew in some other mode? Hope you find your spark again 😊
then decorate or paint the "shell" and carry on with your creativity.
I like how the answer is exactly what you’d think it would be but it’s how he gets there thats so intriguing.
The value of art is enlightment .
It pulls you out of the everyday mud and drag and boredom .
It lifts you up and gives a glance of heaven .
I was in the Kroller Muller museum a few years ago , standing in front of those Van Gochs ........
An experience I will never forget !
And nearby my hometown we have Den Bosch with its St . John's kathedral built in the 12th century .
I know exactly what mr Jordan means !
"More tourists in France than there are people"
True
YOUR FUCKING USERNAME LMAO
InCaseOfEmergency EatAss impossible but still... a staggering amount of tourists
You have no idea just how many animals visit France each year for recreational purposes!
Way too much.
tourists are people too guys
I've never been a lover of Christianity but I've always appreciated their amazing buildings.
I’m sorry if you’ve been turned off by Christians or representations of Christianity that you’ve run into over the course of your life. I find Christianity to be the most beautiful, epic romance. The beauty and majesty of the buildings and art just pale in comparison to the ineffable splendor of the Trinity. In a moment of quiet, consider asking God, should He exist, to make Himself known to you. Wishing you ALL the good things, brother. You’re in my prayers.
M Liu
This whole idea that we should be grateful servants is a glorification of feudalism and antagonistic to liberalism. If a goal of your religion is to spread it, then I am not interested.
The bible even draws a metaphor between Jesus and a shepherd. You have seriously limited your existence, if you are willing to take role as a sheep.
@@juliussw9153 for the win.
@M Liu i don't think people inherently hate christianity or the message of Christ. They hate the people that follow him because many of them are often quite mean and ironically don't fully follow his message of love.
Julius Sw everyone is a sheep in some way or other. You can’t avoid it, everyone serves a master. But you can choose which shepherd to trust. It’s an incredibly freeing, safe and hopeful feeling to have Jesus as a shepherd. He is the only master who will genuinely put his life on the line for you.
This is very true. I noticed this about myself when I was 15 or 16. When I'm not able to be creative, I suffer.
Don’t ask what the world needs, ask what makes you come alive and go do that - because what the world needs are people who have come to life.
He's not wrong. When I don't create it can be some of the most frustrating times in my life
true, remember that rejected austrian art student? he really needed that
Good one...but sad truth...
Imagine he would have made it as a painter....
@Shimohira Reika and he was really good at that. Search the Old Courtyard of Munich, shit slaps. His dream of being an independant artist was shattered when he got refused by the art school.
@Shimohira Reika r/woosh
😆🤣😂
Jordan P, you are the best. We are blessed to have someone so concerned with the whole of everyone through individual change. Love it!
Inspiring video! One way creative people have found to make a living is to find a practical application for their art. In a success-driven world that is consumed by reaching productivity targets and capital growth, I use graphic design, web design and art direction (creative project management) as a creative outlet. True, it is difficult to hunt down people to purchase art prints and paintings as fine art is still a limited field that most don't appreciate, but there is a way to make it work for those who are willing to combine their artistic and technical skills :)
yeah, what you are describing is called selling out.
Yeah well integrity don't pay the rent
@@itannoysme3348 on contraire. Do you just make art for yourself? If you really care about what you do, you would want a lot of people to see it. Then why not make money out of it, is it selling out to know the value of your work? Are you lying to someone? You have a very bad mentality.
You know I'm a big fan of capitalism for building infrastructure and growing food, but damn if it doesn't conflict with artistic integrity.
All of our movies and novels have become mass produced, mass marketed commodities that utterly fail to move people and fade from memory after opening weekend...
Maybe artistic ventures need some other way to fund them, something that removes them from normal market pressures?
I think the future of art museums(if they want to survive and be relevant) is to turn more into carnivals or circuses... -but "thoughtful" circuses so that they dispense wisdom(myth) (like what is in Dr. Peterson's lectures.) People need to have a taste of the old with a taste of the new so that they can ease into new territory. Meow Wolf in new mexico or Burning Man are good examples of what future museums will look like. Art is going to be so rad in the next 20 years!B)
Man just look at how the Game of Thrones show dumped down from sky to land since season 4 just because the pressure to rush it and split away from the books. I was deeply disappointed and I wonder if we will ever see another great potential for a decade at least.
Capitalism works wonderfully in a society that is mostly self employed and where wealth isn't concentrated into the hands of a few elites. Unfortunately that time has long passed in America and we are currently living in late stage capitalism.
There actually some decent moving films out there, at least at an intellectual level, admittedly most of them are independently produced or didn't do well in cinemas, and they are relatively few compared to the amount of shit put into the chum bucket each year, but if you look for it you'll always find it
Mark Baber Critics, and genuine ones, like Anthony Fantano and music, or 24 Frames Of Nick and movies, etc.
Today I dropped out of college. I went back to school during the pandemic when the entertainment industry went to shit (I am an actor). I decided to go back to school and found myself not creating like I used to. Monologues weren’t being memorized for the sake of practicing and being able to act in the confinement of my home. Ideas stopped flowing and I was miserable going to classes and doing online courses. Here I am one year later and taking my career by the balls again. I stopped my creativity and it was slowing killing me. Thanks Jordan Peterson. It’s time for me to get back to creating again. I am an actor and acting is my art. If I’m not doing that then I am dead.
What defines creativity is one's willingness to feel around a dark room without knowing what they're looking for all the while maintaining confidence that it's there somewhere and that they'll find it.
What defines intelligence is one's ability to keep themselves from entering a dark room too big for them to handle, so as not to get lost.
I love this! Beautifully expressed and spot on in accuracy. Thank you!
I'm so greatful for the appreciation that Mr. Peterson gave to European culture. This is something that most of american people are either too blind and distracted to notice, or they consciously ignore it.
It is something that I appreciate the most about Europe in general, along with all the literature works and so many schools of philosophy. Even more than the safety and prosperity that we've built, which are not without a value of course.
If Europe should be respected and remembered for something, it is for its enormous cultural, philosophical and scientific contributions.
fair point, but the countries of other continents aren't lacking, they just tend to be overlooked, y'know Eurocentrism. for example, a lot of european scientific discoveries can actually be credited to the middle east
Resplendent wisdom expressed in poetic prose.
I wish there were a way for all great and creative people to come together. I know there are others out there in the world but it seem we're so far apart. Almost like feeling alone and surrounded by people that don't care to the point you give up again.
P.S. for example I am finding this a year later, and to top it off great things like this only get about 900-1k comments while brain less and unhelpful things get hundred thousands of comments. It's baffling and disheartening at the same time. But thank you for great messages like this for the ones that can use it and still appreciate it ✊🏾
Jordan peterson really has given me a new outlook on Europe. I, as an Austrian, just took every historical building here for granted. I couldn't appreciate the beauty of it and thought that cultures like aztecs, Egyptians, Romans produced way more sophisticated art. But through peterson I came to love medieval architecture and am happy to live in such a history-bound country 🙂
So encouraging to hear this. As an entertainer in the 60s I always felt that the contribution of radio DJs program compilers and A&R people was just as creative as we who made the records and did the shows. Sadly, the advertisers and corporations and accountants shifted the paradigm. “Buy a piece of art” in any way you can, is good advice.. just to be part of a creative process. Thank you Jordan Peterson 🌹
I know what he's talking about here; I have _Dogs Playing Poker_ hanging on my wall.
What would JP's take on that be?
such a classic
Fuck yeah
Same here bro, classic.
Dogs playing poker on black velvet is my Van Gogh Sunflowers.
This is the most beautiful way i've heard a man describe someone's mind
This is incredible, I love this! As an artist (writer) this speaks to me so much!
Artists are so undervalued. The problem is the society and its hierarchy: schools, jobs, left-brain usage (logic). When I hit 30 I quit my assistant job, which never made me happy. I dared to finally live my dreams and I established a small company which helps individuals to get better with the help of art and creativity. I trained myself to become a therapist (I was already an artist) and I learned how to transmit art through what I do. I no longer feel terrible of going to a job I hate. I created a job for myself and I help children and adults. I have never been happier in my life! Dear fellow artists, believe in yourself even if no one believes in you. Take some action. Don't listen to those who "know it better than you".
I was told by a client a long time ago that I was charging them 1/4 of what they were paying others. He said, "charge me more!..., you creative people never know how to make money..." I was very grateful to him.
Sounds like a creative person, himself
Wonderfully said. It's nice to hear someone speaking on this frequency.
i bought a cheap house, renovated it from the money i got in every month, if i would buy my house now i would have to pay about 400 euros more per month for it.. the money saved after it was done. i spended that on a workshop in my garden. i slowly bought all that i want.. welder , lathe. plate bender, plasma cutter, cold saw, milling machine etc. now i have allot of projects from fixing random stuff people ask for, industrial furniture, machines for a friend who wanted to start a chocolate company etc. and when i see this video i think damn yea.. i have many goals. and i really worked for that. i used to think about selling this house and buy a new fixer upper. but no.. i just want my workshop, my girl wants a nice house, we have airconditioner, fireplace, diy jacuzzi *very decent nice one;) solar panels. no i can have my new projects in my workshop and maybe one day start a company myself. videos like this keep me on track ;)
Nice share, a year long comment but nice. Another reminder to keep you on track :D
@@SeokJinKim-gs2in update: sold that house with a profit of 127,5K euros.. i bought again a fixer upper, its a house with 26 garages that are rented out. and a shop. my gf would like to open a kinder garden there. for me its fixing up the house first (heating isolating solar panels, new kitchen new bathroom).. than put in electric garage doors in the garages. and hang camera protection. and only the people who rent can come on my property with a other garage door. and than i can be financial indepentend. and than focus on my projects again. helping my gf with starting her business. and than mine..
Thank you for your passionate defence and appreciation of art and the artist. You keep going up in my estimation the more I understand where you are coming from.
I am a creative person and when I went to the redwoods one of my first thoughts was no cathedral could be this. And stood in awe looking up. I made that connection to those big beautiful churches.
I know how painful and hard it is to be creative. It's one Hell of a gift. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💔
I love the way he blends personal madness with professional expertise
This guy bores me so, i just wish I was creative enough to shut him up. Very boring and he's one of the few on UA-cam i hate but i need to try to listen but i can't make it through his boring sermons. And I am very open-minded and logical (trust me). Watching his videos, it’s easy to conclude that Dr. Jordan the Eggman exhibits the first documented case of the male-cry voice. Maybe he shouldn't repeat himself quite so much either. Jaw dropping achingly irritating. Just so damn beautiful you can't stand him.
@@oppothumbs1 at least don't post your negative comment twice for the same video... to not to look stupid at least
This makes a lot of sense, it seems to reflect reality quite accurately. Some people can't live without being around people, others can't live without a relationship, others can't live without a job (or some duty) and others can't live without freedom to explore. I am of the last type-I go fairly well emotionally without people (in fact I love solitude, but I still love people), without a relationship or without a job. What is vital to me is exploration. And thus life is a constant pain to me, not severe but constant. I live in isolation trying desperately to conquer that freedom of exploration, and I will die trying. I think we are all defined by this scheme (or some approximation of it), and tragically some people end up hanging themselves when life doesn't afford them a good fit with their vital personality trait. I feel very distant from ever following that tragic path, I still consider myself a happy person. But my happiness may be fragile, solely maintained by the hope of this freedom of exploration. If you have some insight that could help me, please share. I wish I had someone to really listen to me.
What/where do you feel called to explore in your inner or outer worlds? There may be a message for you in your yearnings...
"money isn't everything eventually you will die"- Diego
Some people chase money for security so they can do things they enjoy doing in their spare time, like playing the guitar, watching movies, making art etc.. Its funny when they could have just done that in the first place and get paid for it.
Money isn’t everything, but you need it to do basic everyday life. It’s a tool to help you reach your goal, not the goal itself. Regardless of what your goal is in life. Money will be key aspect of achieving it. The problem lies with those who misconstrued the meaning of money and instead treat it as their main goal. (Greed)
This was like watching a one-man play. The passion with which Peterson speaks is utterly mesmerizing.
There's so much of a tornado going on in my mind I have a circus of inspiration and creativity and sometimes it feels like torture but if I'm not creating I feel like its dying, its a slight war within but its worth it when you change lives and feel the therapeutic joy when you finally do get back on a creative wave. I am a painter/multimedia artist
As a Canadian I see a lot of utilitarian design. More and more as you get farther north. Our most expensive buildings seem to be designed more by an Engineering aspect of beauty than a Architectural beauty. I'm sure the required speed of the build has prevented a lot of creativity from the Architects side.
Damn right!
@Bullyhunterxhunter EXACTLY! I think a lot of the problem in Canada is tje harsh climate. We don't think much about making things beautiful, because we're more concerned with making things that will help us not starve or freeze to death in January.
*clicks on video called "Worst thing for creative people to do" because I see myself as creative*
First words:
IF A CREATIVE PERSON DOESN'T DO CREATIVE THINGS THEY DIE.
This had me on the floor laughing
Same. I wasn't expecting him to cut to the chase quite like that.
Lol well seen
With all of these clickbait titles on UA-cam which leave the title's content right to the end of the vid that's nicely refreshing
Shifty Broccoli I'll be damned if it ain't true though.
It's not true. Maybe if creativity is your identity, but it's not an absolute truth.
1:25 'More tourists than there are people.' Love that quote
People =/= Tourists
So he meant more tourists than French people, but even that's not true. France does have more visitors annually than its population, but that's completely different to there being more tourists than residents at any one time. A bit of an embarrassing mistake for someone who clearly has a very high opinion of his own intellect.
Grasping at straws to try to prove that you're smarter = 80 iq
Is that directed at me?
Why don't you just listen to what he says and then check the facts.
"more tourists [in France] than there are [French] people most of the time".
The year with the most tourists on record in France was 2015 when there were 84.5 million [tradingeconomics.com/france/tourist-arrivals]. That's the total number for the entire year. The only way for tourists to outnumber French people at one particular moment would be if nearly all of those tourists were there at exactly the same time.
So no, no straws.
I said grasping at straws because that was just an insignificant line in a video about creativity. He even said "I think" in the beginning of the sentence, meaning he wasn't sure, because he doesn't really care.
I can hardly differentiate between a) me making art or b) buying art that I relate to and LOVE because the beauty of each individual act of art is a vision of its own