I've heard rumors that the 9950x3d could potentially have vcache for both ccds, leading to even higher performance. I'll be waiting until reviews come out for those chips before I make a decision.
Buttons and levers in cars are actually being addressed by european regulators for safety reasons. The tactile feedback is important if you want to prevent people from having to look at a screen to see what they are touching.
I'm guessing it's happening naturally with the integration of Apple Carplay and Android Auto into nearly every new car. If the touch screen is controlled by a phone, then separate controls are needed for A/C and whatnot. Also consumer feedback is pretty united against touchscreens, and knobs are cheap, so it's just smart business.
Im just gonna chime in on this. i used the company car a while ago which is newer EV. Now i am used to older cars but no stranger to modern cars. But at one point i had to change the settings on the climate system since i was dying of the heat and didnt wanna drive on with the windows down. So i had to make a stop since i felt i was staring way too much at the screen trying to navigate my way through the settings, and therefore loosing focus on the traffic. Now using a phone in traffic is illegal where i live, i never do that anyways. But to stare at a bigger screen in the middle of the car is somehow accepted. There are many things to say about this topic and im not gonna elaborate further. This was just a thought i had after driving. Over and out!
No buttons and knobs is cheaper than a capacitive touch interface. Companies will do whatever makes them the most money until regulators or customers force a change through reduced profits. But what makes would make car companies the most money would be your self driving car showing you ads for a product in a store while it drives you to that store instead of driving you home from work like you set it to do.
To be clear, intel's engineers are not to blame for the course they've taken. Their board and upper management are (or were). Spending money on stock buy backs and dividends to make their stock go up in the short term so that their CEO(s) can get his big bonuses at the expense of the future of the company by not investing in R&D and technology and instead producing 14nm+++++++++++++++, who could have seen this coming? Could it be that the model of providing giant bonuses to CEOs for simply making a stock price go up for four quarters ISN'T the best approach?
Pat the engineer >>> Pat the CEO. He crushed at VMware and was part of the engineering team that boosted Intel to its market dominance a long time ago with the i486. He made sense as CEO since Intel had been waning with Swann, a businessman, at the helm.
@@m8x425 yeah, if IT departments start standarding on AMD (my software dev team has) and they do so for years, then Intel will be the ones IT looks at skeptically and will have to work extra hard to get back on IT's recommended hw lists.
I was so disappointed at my new job there was a 6 month lead time on the 16" Ryzen Framework so I am stuck with the tiny 13" intel. Generally though we buy Dell which is exclusively intel so I dont think there is an option.
Human nature always wins in the end that's why being a monopoly is a death sentence. The CEO wants to deliver the highest short term profits while he's in the corner office for his own glory, the shareholders want high short term profits and no one wants to spend money to fight the non-existent competition.
Also, Intel haven't unalived any whistleblowers (yet). At least these chip failures aren't life threatening (and if you use consumer chips on a critical application, you deserve your failure, because even NASA don't use the latest tech for their space rovers because current consumer chips are just unreliable for critical apps)
@@3amaelmaybe you want to leave the racism out of the long running story of these companies failing. None of the whistleblowers said anything about DEI.
their own making. in order to fix the situation they need ( and it will take time ) 1. Stop changing sockets every 1-2 generations 2. stop artificially limit overclocking to both CPUs and motherboards. 3. make your prices reflect the performance. 4 Start innovating
Sounds like a pc builders wish list and with them being the minority of intels profits, I highly doubt it. They should get their fabs to be competitive with tsmc, that would be huge. Then build more of them and make chips for others. They should invest heavily into AI acceleration, because AI is here to stay. And they need to get competitive again with their Desktop and server CPUs. Overclocking is the least of their problems.
@@reinerheiner1148 while these things wont exactly win them money, it will win them reputation and market share against amd, which translates into more long term contracts with other big companies. if nothing else having three generations per socket would be a massive win.
I'm not sure unlocking overclocking more will help Intel, a lot of their current problems are from them overclocking the damn things as they come out of the factory
As someone who waited for MSRP price ordered 3080 for NINE MONTHS, I'd say its pretty urgent when parts are actually good. Also blaming rich people is cringe. Lots of people spend on their one hobby and they are far from always rich.
In my case, I wanted to buy one immediately after launch, but couldn't. The reason for it was that I promised my daughter I would give her a PC until the end of the month, and I saw this as a good opportunity, especially since, in my country, this year's Black Friday was on November 8th, which meant that I could also use the credit card and do 30 monthly installments with no interest. Edit: I should mention that the CPU was for me, I was going to give my current 5800X3D to my daughter. :-)
@@cloudnine5651 I do it all the time. Especially for the windows rolling up and down or to lock, unlock doors, and adjust the radio or temperature controls. It's not hard to understand that tactile buttons allow you to make adjustments without taking your eyes off the road, as opposed to waiting for a touchscreen to load or register your input.
@@cloudnine5651 It's pretty common. If you want an example, just look at gamers with tactile controls, you fully navigate a 3D space with ease and never once look at their hands. Are you saying you actually have taken to where the roll-up and roll-down buttons are in a car?
@@jedison2441 im saying that studies have proven that you look a lot more than you think you do. i really wish ppl would use their time to do research instead of just using what they "feel". your use case of 1 doesnt matter. period.
7241MHz is now the World Record for this cpu as officially recorded on HWbot. I would say it's a bit disappointing considering Intel cpu's doing 8-9GHz. On the other hand AMD has HW disadvantage with x3D chips - 1st Stacking cache and die, 2nd the amount of cache itself - the less is always better for OC.
@@cloudnine5651who uses a nob to adjust a radio that isn't 89? You press the button, it finds the next channel automatically. Or you set the ones you like. Unless you are 80
@@cloudnine5651 no, i use buttons on the steering wheel; I know where they are and what they do, and dont have to take my eyes off the important things when driving.
Intel is getting everything it deserves. Intel invented X86, controlled the market for many years and made countless bucks doing so. However, Intel died as a "serious" company when management decided that the "bean counters" should determine the companies future direction. Intel sat on their collective ass, not innovating to a significant degree for years, blowing cash on other "non-serious" projects allowing AMD to currently exceed them in all areas. Couldn't happen to a better company considering how Intel conducted business where AMD is concerned. Heh.
Intel bribed competitors constantly to specifically avoid selling AMD processors . This tactic will no longer work for Intel after Raptor Lakes failures. The comeuppance is so sweet, and most richly deserved for Intel.
@@Daniel-zr4pk You are probably too young to know all this if you are saying he is delulu. They sold 4 core 4 thread i5 cpus for nearly a decade. Amd was 2 quarters away from bankruptcy when ryzen came out.
And fashion designers and marketers who pushed them held accountable and fired... At minimum considering how many accidents these un-user interfaces have likely caused.
Windscreens should also be banned because people sometimes go through them in accidents?No just use a seat belt,and do not use the touchscreen while driving.Simple logic.And if people cannot grasp simple logic they shouldn't be driving.
@@spandel100 dont use the touchscreen while driving? sounds easy if not for almost every control on that touchscreen guess buttons are too expensive for corpos now
You know how I turn up the volume in my car? I turn the knob (or click the buttons on the steering wheel). How I turn up the heating? I turn the knob. Takes about a second to do, and I don't have to look away from the road to do it - no need to dig through menus. More air? Knob. Different radio station? Knob (or touch, but.. knob). Change the direction of the air? Knob. Change where the air channels blasts air? Finger (apparently you have to do that through the computer on a Tesla?! That can't be true). Sure, I got a touch screen, and it does spotify excellently. Everything else is physical buttons, knobs, levers.. and it's excellent. Can do all of it without ever looking at it. Having everything touch based is probably a lot cheaper for the car manufacturers in wiring and all such.. but, it's a terrible idea. Focus on driving while driving.
It's not just the feel of actual controls, it's that they don't have menus and pages... and you can read their positions at a glance, Screens are a distraction too! Now if lets say you still have a screen, but mostly just for stuff like the cameras and GPS, and to tweak the controls behaviors like custom seat positions for multiple drivers and all sorts, in a settings in a menu on the screen, and in park where you can't run over people!
@@cloudnine5651 I disagree. I'm sure you've heard the saying, "the rules are written in blood." There are plenty of reasons for them, and trying to keep short-sighted profit-driven people from killing the bystanders and themselves is more relevant than ever. And if you're the fiercly independent type who doesn't care what injury may be done to others because you don't like following the rules and hate feeling controlled, you're really gonna struggle with living as a member of any society.
Intel deserves every bit of bad news coming their way. Their customer service is just as atrocious as their products. It took just under seven weeks to get resolution on my 13600k RMA , and every step of the way was frustrating, stressful, annoying, and proved their ineptitude. It was genuinely one of the worst experiences of my life, dealing with a company and customer service.
That's quick. It took me around 12 weeks to get a defective arc card refunded,. Yes refunded because they said they are unable to fix then and as they don't make the a770 le anymore they could not replace it either. I started this rma process a few weeks before the cpu stuff kicked off too. 😢
I can attest to Intel atrocious customer service. Two non-consecutive hours held on the phone have yet to have a single Intel representative speak or even consider an RMA for my dead 14900K.
I had a dead R9 5900X back when , just took it to the shop and immediately got a new one, but this is in Europe. Thing may be different on the other side.
Anyone who thought touch controls in vehicles was a good idea should have been laughed out of the design room before being fired and blacklisted from the automotive industry.
It doesn’t matter because the accountants are in control. If physical buttons were cheaper touch controls wouldn’t be considered. But unfortunately you have the majority of the population that want all this tech in vehicles because they’re ignorant to reliability and longterm viability. So many vehicles are going to be actual garbage when you can’t buy replacement parts in a decade or so.
That has been a pet peeve of mine for _years._ The tactile presence of buttons and knobs means not having to take your eyes off of the road as much; touchscreens don't and _can't_ have that!
I really, really hope that Intel loses that lawsuit, and every lawsuit regarding the Raptor Lake instability problems with massive ramifications. There should have been a proper recall of the Raptor Lake chips, its crazy that Intel thought they could just get away with it. This should teach them a good lesson on how not to teach their mainstream consumers.
As someone who does not have insider information there definitely was not internal reporting of the instability problems and the potential fixes and definitely was not told that it's not worth it to fix them they can always be solved later
if Intel recall all raptor lake chip They will go out of business They can't afford it, also you can't fix CPU that already being damaged, you just replace it Intel already extend warranty for 2 years for these chip, any customer with issue in next 4 years can get replacement for free, they also ship microcode updatet to stop CPU breaking itself
Be careful what you wish for. If you get your wish it will likely be the last nail in the coffin. Intel needs a harsh lesson to be sure, but we do want them to stay competitive in the market.
I had to take a moment to fully appreciate this glorious 2000s scrapbook photo. And I absolutely love the attention to who is what power ranger. Such a perfect niche touch.
Touch screens are great in cars, but only for displaying information like routes, car diagnostics/info, and setting routes. For everything else, it should be buttons - buttons you can find and control without taking your eyes off the road.
@@cloudnine5651 They may take a milisecond-level glance to make sure they're touching the correct knob, but after that? It's eyes back to the road. I want to know - are your eyes freaking G L U E D to that screen while you're counting the bars on a volume display? What the hell are you even talking about? Also, I'm 50 as well, so cut the hyperbole. Your opinion is no more valid than mine. Requiring navigation of touch-screen menues to control basic functions is utter idiocy. This is my opinion, and I have a pretty strong feeling that accident-statistics will back me up. Unfortunately, while we "wait and see," people will be dying, but I suppose that's always been the cost of convincing people.
@@cloudnine5651 Ironic that you talk about spam when you've spammed the same reply to every comment that mentions touchscreens. And for the record, I don't look at the radio when adjusting volume or changing radio stations. My last few cars have all had steering wheel mounted controls for those functions. I don't even need to glance down at the steering wheel to use them, they're right under my thumbs. For any controls not on the steering wheel, I soon learn the position of the various controls and can find them by muscle memory alone.
I wonder where the executives from Intel who chose to lay off all those R&D staff when they were so clearly on top are now? Who am I kidding. I bet they're sipping cocktails on their mega-yachts after paying themselves an epic bonus for "saving money" for that quarter. The European vehicle safety certification folks also said they won't give any vehicles a 5 star safety rating if they don't have physical buttons for essential functions from next year. I'm genuinely mindblown how those massive centre touch consoles are even legal considering you can get an on the spot fine of £1000 and even lose your license for being on your phone here in the UK.
Controls of yesterday's car still work as the new computerized controls of today may have already failed within the first year. Give me the simple controls that hardly ever fail and are cheap and easy to replace.
Got one for my girlfriend at 539€ in the neighbouring country, next day price was at 569€ and sold out, the only store in my country that can deliver day one charged 599€ for the first units (love zero competition) and was also sold out the next morning. Important to note that sales went up at 17.30 in the evening, so only the online store refreshers got a part. Anyone else thinking to buy one on the 8th early mornings in stores were doomed. Crazy how an actual good cpu sells and nobody cares about efficiency for performance tradeoffs, who could have guessed.
lol, the car news is kind of refreshing. Keep your climate controls out of my radio and stop integrating everything into one unit. Main reason I still drive a 2002 Accord is the aftermarket sound system. I didn't have to get a NASA education to install it myself and it sounds better than all OEM car systems. If I'm forced to get a new car, I think I'll just bypass the factory system and just put the head unit in the glovebox and run all new wires.
My IT department at work upgraded to 13th and 14th gen cpus when they came out. Since that dept is responsible for wifi, wired, tv, phones, pos access, almost everything, it turned out disastrous. We lost so much money company-wide. Every single cpu has been switched to AMD. Not only did we lose money, being a luxury resort and this issue causing havoc on guest experience, they are considering a lawsuit as well. Good to know about that new york guy. Maybe my company will join him.
I thought I missed out on my 9800 X3D I was told by my online PC store I would have to wait until December 15th but I got are message 2hrs later saying my 9800 X3D was shipped and is coming this Monday can't wait 👍
Amazing roundup of last weeks tech news as usual. You're still my fav Sunday morning after-breakfast entertainer! Keep it coming Paul. Love from Germany!
I'm literally buying a 9800 the moment they are available again. I'm So heartbroken that my 14900 is already dying. Will take years of good PR to bring me back to Intel. Never Again
Probably because he took all the profits from the C-19 era, and benefits from IRA and went on a $152 Billion stock buyback spree and got rewarded with a $191 M bonus for artificially inflating the stock price. He spent 152B to buy back stock for a company that now has a market capitalization of $100B instead of investing in research and infrastructure. That is Trump level business smarts and of course American investors love him for it.
Im glad my 14600k is not defectiv and I am pretty happy with the performance paired with my rtx 4070 , but how things are going with intel lately my next upgrade will definetly be AMD
Buttons are great! Anybody try & use a touchscreen on cold winter days while wearing gloves? Even gloves with special tips only work about 30% of the time.
Intel are now basically in same position as AMD was with FX bulldozers cpus after their release and further but AMD survives thanks to GPU section up to Zen release
7:49 As an ex Intel employee as of 2023 this would be a complete 180 move from what was said back in 2022. Pat Gelsinger visited our campus (Folsom, CA) and on stage in front of everyone...like 600 ppl in person and all the employees attending remotely... said that integrated graphics is (this will be paraphrased but the message is the same) "not market competitive anymore, the value add of integrated graphics has diminished to the point that we are not market competitive without discrete graphics in our product stack." During all the layoffs, my team took almost no hit in personnel because we worked in the discrete graphics testing and I still have friends in that division grinding away at ARC to this day. Dude if Intel drops ARC after all this....I'm actually afraid Intel might go under....
You should have been afraid before now.... Perhaps it's that Intel slow recognition playing out for them like it is for you... Glad you are off that ship though. I bought my LE Arc in hopes that it would add some competition and for the novelty. It was either going to be the discrete card that launched Intel into that segment for success, OR one of the only discrete cards Intel ever produces and become a collectors item. Seems like the latter is playing out.
Automobiles moving back to physical controls vs touch screen is a safety benefit for sure. You can make adjustments while keeping your eyes on the road.
Some extra pluses of Firefox, specifically for UA-cam-ing: * Popout video is fantastic and supports Multiple pop-outs, * has fully functioning volume slider and caption button, Back/Forward * and will let you arbitrarily resize it however you want (works really well on a second screen, especially when the aspect ratios don't match exactly, like my 1920x1200 side screen) * doesn't have an awful hazy gray overlay over the entire video as is so popular with horrible UI devs (lookin' at you, Vivaldi) * EDIT: Oh, and it actually still shows up in the Windows media overlay, unlike some others all in addition to fully functioning ublock O and really still the best addon market, specifically for optimized browsing and useful automation.
Good to see touchscreens going away. I have a car that has both. The danger of the touch screen is that you have to look away from the road to use it. Anyone who's driven for at least fifteen years knows with knobs and buttons you can control your car and your eyes never leave the road while taking canyon curves at a semi-safe speed. As for appliances. Buttons good where water resides, touch screen circuit boards, not so much.
As someone who doesnt want trillion dollar companies leaching my money through random fees and subscriptions, I will happily donate to keep Mozilla running if i can
Just bought my 98x3d yesterday and am getting ready to install it. My local CanadaComputers just had 10 chilling on the shelf lol. The difference from my 78x3d isnt huge but it's new and shiny! One great thing about Canada is you can just walk in a store and buy all the shit that's immediately sold out in the US.
underrated comment. I'm not blind, but I have given rides to a blind friend, and have had some interesting discussions that "opened my eyes." Reducing everything to a touchscreen effectively locks-out disabled people - they have even less agency, and are trapped there feeling like a lump, because they cannot even change the volume or air temperature.... Why would we do that to people? Is that trade-off really worth it? I don't feel like it is, and will not purchase a vehicle that uses touchscreens for everything.
9:30 This is much more to do with safety than "cool", you can't find an icon on a touchscreen without looking but you can find a button much more easily just by touch. They don't want drivers to have to keep looking at their touchscreens while driving and it's becoming illegal in some places.
I think what happened was, AMD was sucking for like 20 years straight, that Intel got too complacent. Then AMD out of nowhere was like, "ZEN ARCHITECTURE, and we can deliver." That's when I bought AMD stock at like 15/share and within like a year, saw my stocks double and now they're literally worth like 10x that much.
It was about 10 years but the rest I agree and also bought my first AMD shares at 7 and later with Zen2 and Intel on 14+++ sold all my Intel shares and bought more AMD. 😊
Never thought that I would see the day when Intel will be second and AMD will come at the top ! Great news as long as competition still holds up and not ending up for AMD been the monopoly for CPUs !
So glad to hear about rebuttonization of cars. I like the larger, more versatile displays made possible by transplanting touchscreen technology into cars but I also think that they encourage distraction, and thus discourage safety, by enabling tiny, non-tactile "buttons" in the car's user interfaces. Being able to find a relevant control by touch alone without having to take one's eyes off the road is highly underrated.
Intel needed a good kicking, im just hoping it hasn't sustained terminal injuries. Though it does seem like they continue to make questionable decisions. Here's hoping they sort themselves out become competitive again.
Personally, I waiting for the 9950X3D! If it's rumored dual CCD V-cache layout and the ability to still overclock it is true, this "could" be a Beast of a CPU not only for gaming, but just about anything else you could throw at it!! Thinking to price on it will probably be in the $800 range!
Turning intel around is going to be near impossible, because some, or most of the root cause, is the management, and the CEO's are unlikely to fire themselves. If you want to create a equal, level and open work force where creativity and cooperation can thrive, it will be very hard getting there from a hiararchial system, like Boeing or Intel. But they can be bought up by the competition, and then re-invented. It is still a (somewhat)solid brand.
@exzld ceo's in plural. There is definately a problem, and there exist a culture of problems with overpaid leaders that keep a lid on serious issues, while they sell their stocks, and then report to Chinese before US, this was Krzanich, and current CEO meant all the chip initiative money should go to intel, while he was building fabs outside of USA, great suggestion. Current CEO has also laid off and cancelled people i regard as borderline genius. Meanwhile, a 14900k revision produced on 3nm would probably have performed 20-40% better than 285k, while being cooler, so how can a sitting leader not be responsible for such a catastrophic product line as the core 200 series? They go from 7nm to 3nm and the performance goes down?? That is unheard of, and outrageous.He is responsible because he is CEO, that is why he is CEO. The leader is also responsible for the culture in the company, which in intel means keep shut or get fired, and that is Not the culture you want if you promote innovation or a level work field where everyone can speak their concerns or ideas.
@@Anders357 the man has an engineering background so I really respect the guy. Also with the way things have been in the US can you blame for not building fabs in US? Where are the other people building? Also the CHIPS act has been blue balled by government so that didn't help either. Maybe once the new administrations cuts more red tape and taxes the building will begin but that's going too far topic. I understand the optics of the launch does not look good, but we are talking about a new architecture that is attempting to finally address the high wattage for efficiency. There is also the NPU and other aspects that had to be added. Could they have handled the raptor architecture fiasco better? A little bit but the competition everywhere is fierce as hell right now and something like AI has not shown immediate return for many people but they still gotta pursue it to remain relevant.. I get it but I am not going to pretend I could have done better. There are some suggestions I would definitely give them, but again there is so much going on. I believe the 200 series will get better with time and to be frank performance for gamers just is not that important right now which seems to be loudest group hating on them. Other than the previous architecture, things have not been too terrible. I really cannot picture a better CEO for the job right now. With everything bleeding edge on tech, his background and position in combination is valuable for vision and reality at the very least... That's how I see it so far. I did not have to deal with the last architecture, but everything else they have made, I have enjoyed immensely. I just wished support for products lasted little more than 7 years but I am probably just a bit greedy.
Im pretty sure the 7600x3d has actually been available for a month or two now. I remember watching microcenter first remove, and later readd, bumping the original 7800x3d bundle from $500 to $600 and plopped the 7600x3d bundle at $450
intel doesnt need to stay in the competition. because once upon the time, they tried to push AMD out of business, and not by fair methods, no-no, they were using dirty tricks
2006 I bought my last amd chip, FX60. But managed to get a 9800x3d and will sell the 12700k and all once installed. Had enough of the high power and slower speed.
Remember when the former CEO of Firefox Laura Chambers made a ton of stupid changes which broke nearly two decades worth of backwards compatibility? Remember when they pushed an update which wiped all data on the browser bookmarks, settings, passwords, etc without notice. Remember when folks asked for them to revert the changes and not remove about:config on mobile? Remember when Laura Chambers posted a picture on Twitter of herself on a blow up raft at a luxury resort drinking a mix drink and just so happened to be holding it in such a way she was giving the camera the middle finger and titled it "To all the haters"? As a long time user of Firefox, and still user to this day I have a hard time shedding a tear for them, they fall has been long, love the product hate the people behind it.
It’s not just about buttons and knobs feeling better, it’s that with buttons I can control my cars Heat/AC and radio without ever taking my eyes off the road. With a touchscreen radio etc? Good luck.
because you need someone with experience to replace and all the experienced people went out some time ago because they didnt want to deal with the company problems
Yes, buttons and knobs would be much better than. touch screen for driving so you don't really have to look down. One of the biggest reason why I liked my 90s Chevrolet S-10 S15 GMC. trucks because they literally had it shaped like an arrow. I never. looked down while I was driving hardly. Back then I was kind of young and dumb too. So probably a good thing.
Actually if the power budget is unlocked on the Intel chip, it becomes 14% faster than the I9 14900. Plus the new MSI Intel mother boards are unleashing the memory booster Intel is not talking about for even more speed. On a side note Nexus confirmed they have to develop a new testing rig to test intel's newest chips because the old test rig does not take advantage of the chips full abilities.
Paul PLEASE! I told you not to share those photos, they were for your eyes only!
Steve, I never knew you had so much... knurling
Had to think of Goya's La Maja...
now now children
Now do a Fusion with Steve to become Super Steve
I've heard rumors that the 9950x3d could potentially have vcache for both ccds, leading to even higher performance. I'll be waiting until reviews come out for those chips before I make a decision.
So, to sum it up, AMD is on fire (figuratively) and Intel is on fire (literally)
Can also be AMD is fire and Intel is on dumpster fire (both figuratively and literally)
It's fine.
Can't wait for Copium Lake next year that is slower than 9800X3D by only about 20%, and then Dead Lake in 2027 slower by only 10%.
@@frantavopicka5259yeah.. once zen6 x3d gains another 20% over current lmao
Well, the scalpers are on fire (figuratively).
Buttons and levers in cars are actually being addressed by european regulators for safety reasons. The tactile feedback is important if you want to prevent people from having to look at a screen to see what they are touching.
I'm guessing it's happening naturally with the integration of Apple Carplay and Android Auto into nearly every new car. If the touch screen is controlled by a phone, then separate controls are needed for A/C and whatnot. Also consumer feedback is pretty united against touchscreens, and knobs are cheap, so it's just smart business.
Im just gonna chime in on this. i used the company car a while ago which is newer EV. Now i am used to older cars but no stranger to modern cars. But at one point i had to change the settings on the climate system since i was dying of the heat and didnt wanna drive on with the windows down. So i had to make a stop since i felt i was staring way too much at the screen trying to navigate my way through the settings, and therefore loosing focus on the traffic. Now using a phone in traffic is illegal where i live, i never do that anyways. But to stare at a bigger screen in the middle of the car is somehow accepted. There are many things to say about this topic and im not gonna elaborate further. This was just a thought i had after driving. Over and out!
No buttons and knobs is cheaper than a capacitive touch interface. Companies will do whatever makes them the most money until regulators or customers force a change through reduced profits.
But what makes would make car companies the most money would be your self driving car showing you ads for a product in a store while it drives you to that store instead of driving you home from work like you set it to do.
Literally false. I’ve never met a person who didn’t look at the radio when they adjusted the volume or station. Not a single time
@@cloudnine5651What about me? You know me too?
To be clear, intel's engineers are not to blame for the course they've taken. Their board and upper management are (or were). Spending money on stock buy backs and dividends to make their stock go up in the short term so that their CEO(s) can get his big bonuses at the expense of the future of the company by not investing in R&D and technology and instead producing 14nm+++++++++++++++, who could have seen this coming? Could it be that the model of providing giant bonuses to CEOs for simply making a stock price go up for four quarters ISN'T the best approach?
They needed to replace all of upper management, and they didn't. Pat should be removed immediately. Every decision he makes is wrong.
Pat the engineer >>> Pat the CEO. He crushed at VMware and was part of the engineering team that boosted Intel to its market dominance a long time ago with the i486. He made sense as CEO since Intel had been waning with Swann, a businessman, at the helm.
@@andrekz9138 possibly came on way too late....
Our IT dept at work is no longer buying Intel processors for our computers.
that's not a good thing either since so many IT departments from a vast number of companies insist on Intel
@@m8x425 yeah, if IT departments start standarding on AMD (my software dev team has) and they do so for years, then Intel will be the ones IT looks at skeptically and will have to work extra hard to get back on IT's recommended hw lists.
@@soupwizardthat’s a good thing. Intel has serious work to do when it comes to their cpus and winning over buyers
I was so disappointed at my new job there was a 6 month lead time on the 16" Ryzen Framework so I am stuck with the tiny 13" intel. Generally though we buy Dell which is exclusively intel so I dont think there is an option.
Our CIO still goes by the mantra that no one was ever fired for buying Intel
When you focus on Wall Street, silencing whistleblowers, profits over R&D, this happens. Intel and Boeing have similar stories.
Don't forget DEI
Human nature always wins in the end that's why being a monopoly is a death sentence. The CEO wants to deliver the highest short term profits while he's in the corner office for his own glory, the shareholders want high short term profits and no one wants to spend money to fight the non-existent competition.
The problem is "activist investors" don't give a toss about long-term strategic vision, only short-term gains that can be exploited.
Also, Intel haven't unalived any whistleblowers (yet). At least these chip failures aren't life threatening (and if you use consumer chips on a critical application, you deserve your failure, because even NASA don't use the latest tech for their space rovers because current consumer chips are just unreliable for critical apps)
@@3amaelmaybe you want to leave the racism out of the long running story of these companies failing. None of the whistleblowers said anything about DEI.
their own making.
in order to fix the situation they need ( and it will take time )
1. Stop changing sockets every 1-2 generations
2. stop artificially limit overclocking to both CPUs and motherboards.
3. make your prices reflect the performance.
4 Start innovating
5. Stop making it consume gajillionwatts of power.
6. Stop using cheap TIMs to cool the die.
Sounds like a pc builders wish list and with them being the minority of intels profits, I highly doubt it.
They should get their fabs to be competitive with tsmc, that would be huge. Then build more of them and make chips for others.
They should invest heavily into AI acceleration, because AI is here to stay.
And they need to get competitive again with their Desktop and server CPUs.
Overclocking is the least of their problems.
@@reinerheiner1148 while these things wont exactly win them money, it will win them reputation and market share against amd, which translates into more long term contracts with other big companies.
if nothing else having three generations per socket would be a massive win.
4:
But 14+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ is needed
I'm not sure unlocking overclocking more will help Intel, a lot of their current problems are from them overclocking the damn things as they come out of the factory
More bad news for Intel, I just RMA'd my 14900k for a second time!
Meanwhile i am still rocking my 13900k without a single issue....
@@Intruder74 9700k here! I has no monies to upgrade to either company :(
@@MegaPepsimax money money money, must be funny, in the..
13400F❤
I haven’t had an issue with 14900k
Bringing back knobs in cars is a absolute win, who doesnt love a knob.
I guess it's IBM's Time to Shine!!!🤣🤣
Paying scalper prices on a launch day product is insanity when you can just wait. What about getting the CPU is so urgent?
reddit upvotes for being first on the pcmr sub... probably.
also dumb rich people
We have no one else to blame, but the rich simps who still buy at these prices.
As someone who waited for MSRP price ordered 3080 for NINE MONTHS, I'd say its pretty urgent when parts are actually good. Also blaming rich people is cringe. Lots of people spend on their one hobby and they are far from always rich.
In my case, I wanted to buy one immediately after launch, but couldn't. The reason for it was that I promised my daughter I would give her a PC until the end of the month, and I saw this as a good opportunity, especially since, in my country, this year's Black Friday was on November 8th, which meant that I could also use the credit card and do 30 monthly installments with no interest.
Edit: I should mention that the CPU was for me, I was going to give my current 5800X3D to my daughter. :-)
Casually walked into Microcenter on Saturday and bought one of their 25+ in stock 9800x3d cpus. Microcenter is awesome.
Touchscreens in cars are SO STUPID!!! STOP TAKING YOUR EYES OFF THE ROAD!!! (unless it's to look at HUB's Steve)
Never met a person who didn’t take their eyes off the road to adjust a knob as well. Use your brain ppl
@@cloudnine5651 I do it all the time. Especially for the windows rolling up and down or to lock, unlock doors, and adjust the radio or temperature controls.
It's not hard to understand that tactile buttons allow you to make adjustments without taking your eyes off the road, as opposed to waiting for a touchscreen to load or register your input.
@@jedison2441 suuuuuure you do. im sure you think your special too
@@cloudnine5651 It's pretty common. If you want an example, just look at gamers with tactile controls, you fully navigate a 3D space with ease and never once look at their hands. Are you saying you actually have taken to where the roll-up and roll-down buttons are in a car?
@@jedison2441 im saying that studies have proven that you look a lot more than you think you do. i really wish ppl would use their time to do research instead of just using what they "feel". your use case of 1 doesnt matter. period.
Waiting for some extreme overclockers to push the 9800X3D to 6 GHz. Jay showed that a slight overclock on the core already gave big gains.
they've already broken 7ghz on LN2
google it
@puffman06 damn impressive
@@puffman06 That was quick. The last time I saw the bench they hit 6.7Ghz
7241MHz is now the World Record for this cpu as officially recorded on HWbot. I would say it's a bit disappointing considering Intel cpu's doing 8-9GHz. On the other hand AMD has HW disadvantage with x3D chips - 1st Stacking cache and die, 2nd the amount of cache itself - the less is always better for OC.
Knobs are coming back, because EU said car manufacturers couldn't have a 5 star ENCAP safety rating without manual knobs.
And those regulators were right to do so.
Dumbest shit I’ve heard all day. Everyone looks at the radio when adjusting a knob. EVERYONE.
@@cloudnine5651who uses a nob to adjust a radio that isn't 89? You press the button, it finds the next channel automatically. Or you set the ones you like. Unless you are 80
@@cloudnine5651 no, i use buttons on the steering wheel; I know where they are and what they do, and dont have to take my eyes off the important things when driving.
@@cerealport2726 suuuuuuuurrrreeeee
Intel is getting everything it deserves. Intel invented X86, controlled the market for many years and made countless bucks doing so. However, Intel died as a "serious" company when management decided that the "bean counters" should determine the companies future direction. Intel sat on their collective ass, not innovating to a significant degree for years, blowing cash on other "non-serious" projects allowing AMD to currently exceed them in all areas. Couldn't happen to a better company considering how Intel conducted business where AMD is concerned. Heh.
delulu
Intel bribed competitors constantly to specifically avoid selling AMD processors . This tactic will no longer work for Intel after Raptor Lakes failures.
The comeuppance is so sweet, and most richly deserved for Intel.
@@iLegionaire3755 Yeah for at least 30 years they did this, using many illegal tactics, but since they are a big corpo laws mean nothing.
@@Daniel-zr4pk You are probably too young to know all this if you are saying he is delulu. They sold 4 core 4 thread i5 cpus for nearly a decade. Amd was 2 quarters away from bankruptcy when ryzen came out.
@@charlesg5085 and you're somewhat young if this is all you remember Intel for.
For those wondering, the Knurlings were an advanced race in the Star Gate Universe who's technology was all based on knobs and levers..
Is that alpha or beta canon?
Touch screens in cars for control outside of gps is distracting and straight up dangerous and need to be banned.
breathing sometimes is dangerous if there's smoke or something and breathing should be banned!
And fashion designers and marketers who pushed them held accountable and fired...
At minimum considering how many accidents these un-user interfaces have likely caused.
Windscreens should also be banned because people sometimes go through them in accidents?No just use a seat belt,and do not use the touchscreen while driving.Simple logic.And if people cannot grasp simple logic they shouldn't be driving.
@@spandel100 dont use the touchscreen while driving? sounds easy if not for almost every control on that touchscreen guess buttons are too expensive for corpos now
@@user-ew8lt6yi2isure, which one you prefer though, not using touchscreen or not breathing in an hour drive? smooth brain
You know how I turn up the volume in my car? I turn the knob (or click the buttons on the steering wheel). How I turn up the heating? I turn the knob.
Takes about a second to do, and I don't have to look away from the road to do it - no need to dig through menus.
More air? Knob. Different radio station? Knob (or touch, but.. knob). Change the direction of the air? Knob. Change where the air channels blasts air? Finger (apparently you have to do that through the computer on a Tesla?! That can't be true).
Sure, I got a touch screen, and it does spotify excellently. Everything else is physical buttons, knobs, levers.. and it's excellent. Can do all of it without ever looking at it. Having everything touch based is probably a lot cheaper for the car manufacturers in wiring and all such.. but, it's a terrible idea. Focus on driving while driving.
Literally lying lol. In 50 yrs I’ve never met a person who DIDNT look at the radio when playing with knobs.
The photo of Steve made me snort laugh 😅😂
Editor Joe was more preoccupied with if he could, instead of if he should xD memes... find a way
Steve has no shame...
Moral of the story, complacency breeds incompetency.
Exactly
It's not just the feel of actual controls, it's that they don't have menus and pages... and you can read their positions at a glance, Screens are a distraction too! Now if lets say you still have a screen, but mostly just for stuff like the cameras and GPS, and to tweak the controls behaviors like custom seat positions for multiple drivers and all sorts, in a settings in a menu on the screen, and in park where you can't run over people!
The last thing we need is yet more rules and control
@@cloudnine5651 I disagree. I'm sure you've heard the saying, "the rules are written in blood." There are plenty of reasons for them, and trying to keep short-sighted profit-driven people from killing the bystanders and themselves is more relevant than ever. And if you're the fiercly independent type who doesn't care what injury may be done to others because you don't like following the rules and hate feeling controlled, you're really gonna struggle with living as a member of any society.
Intel deserves every bit of bad news coming their way. Their customer service is just as atrocious as their products. It took just under seven weeks to get resolution on my 13600k RMA , and every step of the way was frustrating, stressful, annoying, and proved their ineptitude. It was genuinely one of the worst experiences of my life, dealing with a company and customer service.
That's quick. It took me around 12 weeks to get a defective arc card refunded,. Yes refunded because they said they are unable to fix then and as they don't make the a770 le anymore they could not replace it either. I started this rma process a few weeks before the cpu stuff kicked off too. 😢
I can attest to Intel atrocious customer service. Two non-consecutive hours held on the phone have yet to have a single Intel representative speak or even consider an RMA for my dead 14900K.
I had a dead R9 5900X back when , just took it to the shop and immediately got a new one, but this is in Europe. Thing may be different on the other side.
Anyone who thought touch controls in vehicles was a good idea should have been laughed out of the design room before being fired and blacklisted from the automotive industry.
As someone working in the automotive industry and with pre-prototype development, I 100% agree!
So that's where Tesla is getting their engineers now for their rolling coffins.
It doesn’t matter because the accountants are in control. If physical buttons were cheaper touch controls wouldn’t be considered. But unfortunately you have the majority of the population that want all this tech in vehicles because they’re ignorant to reliability and longterm viability. So many vehicles are going to be actual garbage when you can’t buy replacement parts in a decade or so.
That has been a pet peeve of mine for _years._ The tactile presence of buttons and knobs means not having to take your eyes off of the road as much; touchscreens don't and _can't_ have that!
Literally no different than a knob. Ppl still look at the radio to adjust a knob. Use your head man
I really, really hope that Intel loses that lawsuit, and every lawsuit regarding the Raptor Lake instability problems with massive ramifications. There should have been a proper recall of the Raptor Lake chips, its crazy that Intel thought they could just get away with it. This should teach them a good lesson on how not to teach their mainstream consumers.
As someone who does not have insider information there definitely was not internal reporting of the instability problems and the potential fixes and definitely was not told that it's not worth it to fix them they can always be solved later
It ASUS not INTEL to blame that fried the CPU. It's political.
if Intel recall all raptor lake chip They will go out of business
They can't afford it, also you can't fix CPU that already being damaged, you just replace it
Intel already extend warranty for 2 years for these chip, any customer with issue in next 4 years can get replacement for free, they also ship microcode updatet to stop CPU breaking itself
@@paulboyce8537Why are you lying?
Be careful what you wish for. If you get your wish it will likely be the last nail in the coffin. Intel needs a harsh lesson to be sure, but we do want them to stay competitive in the market.
I had to take a moment to fully appreciate this glorious 2000s scrapbook photo. And I absolutely love the attention to who is what power ranger. Such a perfect niche touch.
Back in the day amds chips were bad but they weren't faulty. Intel has really shat the bed.
And in most cases priced properly. They were kinda crap, but also cheap so did the job to slap into a cheap pc
Touch screens are great in cars, but only for displaying information like routes, car diagnostics/info, and setting routes. For everything else, it should be buttons - buttons you can find and control without taking your eyes off the road.
Literally NOBODY adjusts a volume know without looking at the radio. NOBODY. Every single person looks, every single time. Stop fooling yourself
@@cloudnine5651 They may take a milisecond-level glance to make sure they're touching the correct knob, but after that? It's eyes back to the road. I want to know - are your eyes freaking G L U E D to that screen while you're counting the bars on a volume display? What the hell are you even talking about? Also, I'm 50 as well, so cut the hyperbole. Your opinion is no more valid than mine. Requiring navigation of touch-screen menues to control basic functions is utter idiocy. This is my opinion, and I have a pretty strong feeling that accident-statistics will back me up. Unfortunately, while we "wait and see," people will be dying, but I suppose that's always been the cost of convincing people.
@@tinlizziedl001 literally false. didnt even read the whole spam bullshit, i stopped after you lied about it being a glance.
@@cloudnine5651 Ironic that you talk about spam when you've spammed the same reply to every comment that mentions touchscreens.
And for the record, I don't look at the radio when adjusting volume or changing radio stations. My last few cars have all had steering wheel mounted controls for those functions. I don't even need to glance down at the steering wheel to use them, they're right under my thumbs. For any controls not on the steering wheel, I soon learn the position of the various controls and can find them by muscle memory alone.
Damn Paul, 8:00-8:30. That was some brutal honesty right there. Good on you.
Buttons coming back is great news.
Knurling is indeed very cool. Brushed aluminium is also very pleasing. Time for a aesthetic change i think! 🙂👍
Editing was amazing in this 😂
Good. physical controls are better.
I wonder where the executives from Intel who chose to lay off all those R&D staff when they were so clearly on top are now? Who am I kidding. I bet they're sipping cocktails on their mega-yachts after paying themselves an epic bonus for "saving money" for that quarter.
The European vehicle safety certification folks also said they won't give any vehicles a 5 star safety rating if they don't have physical buttons for essential functions from next year. I'm genuinely mindblown how those massive centre touch consoles are even legal considering you can get an on the spot fine of £1000 and even lose your license for being on your phone here in the UK.
That bird picture with plums, I can't unsee that now
GO GO POWER RANGERS!!!!!
Controls of yesterday's car still work as the new computerized controls of today may have already failed within the first year. Give me the simple controls that hardly ever fail and are cheap and easy to replace.
Got one for my girlfriend at 539€ in the neighbouring country, next day price was at 569€ and sold out, the only store in my country that can deliver day one charged 599€ for the first units (love zero competition) and was also sold out the next morning. Important to note that sales went up at 17.30 in the evening, so only the online store refreshers got a part. Anyone else thinking to buy one on the 8th early mornings in stores were doomed. Crazy how an actual good cpu sells and nobody cares about efficiency for performance tradeoffs, who could have guessed.
Intel can suffer for another 10 years. Their marketing alone tells us they haven't learned their lesson until the Core Ultra.
lol, the car news is kind of refreshing. Keep your climate controls out of my radio and stop integrating everything into one unit. Main reason I still drive a 2002 Accord is the aftermarket sound system. I didn't have to get a NASA education to install it myself and it sounds better than all OEM car systems. If I'm forced to get a new car, I think I'll just bypass the factory system and just put the head unit in the glovebox and run all new wires.
Nice thing about the 7600X3D is that it is still available. For now.
Great Job Paul & Joe!!
I look forward to your content every Sunday morning.
Thanks for sharing and stay well guys!
My IT department at work upgraded to 13th and 14th gen cpus when they came out. Since that dept is responsible for wifi, wired, tv, phones, pos access, almost everything, it turned out disastrous. We lost so much money company-wide. Every single cpu has been switched to AMD. Not only did we lose money, being a luxury resort and this issue causing havoc on guest experience, they are considering a lawsuit as well. Good to know about that new york guy. Maybe my company will join him.
hold on Paul, who came up with that bird picture? 🤣that is very visual! Edit: is yes at 5:34
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I thought I missed out on my 9800 X3D I was told by my online PC store I would have to wait until December 15th but I got are message 2hrs later saying my 9800 X3D was shipped and is coming this Monday can't wait 👍
Blackberry was ahead of its time with more buttons than screen on their decice.
2:28 I hope Steve from @Hardwareunboxed has seen this! 🤣
Whoever does the closed captions is awesome.
I come hear for the entertainment as much as I do the tech news. You never disappoint in either arena.
Great as always, sir!
Continue to be glad I went AM5 this time :D
Knurling is indeed magical. Both in terms of how it's made and how it feels.
Every single decision of Pat Gelsinger is complete tone-deaf. How did he manage to rose in the ranks?
Amazing roundup of last weeks tech news as usual. You're still my fav Sunday morning after-breakfast entertainer! Keep it coming Paul. Love from Germany!
I'm literally buying a 9800 the moment they are available again. I'm So heartbroken that my 14900 is already dying. Will take years of good PR to bring me back to Intel. Never Again
That hyperextended thumb was painful to watch
How the hell does Gellsinger still have a job?
Influential mum probably🤷♂
Probably because he took all the profits from the C-19 era, and benefits from IRA and went on a $152 Billion stock buyback spree and got rewarded with a $191 M bonus for artificially inflating the stock price. He spent 152B to buy back stock for a company that now has a market capitalization of $100B instead of investing in research and infrastructure. That is Trump level business smarts and of course American investors love him for it.
90% of these problems are due to people before Gellsinger took over. 18A is what will decide Pat's continued employment.
He is still probably the best CEO Intel had in the last 20 years, if he can't save the company no-one can.
I can't stand big ass screens in cars, give me some knobs.
Im glad my 14600k is not defectiv and I am pretty happy with the performance paired with my rtx 4070 , but how things are going with intel lately my next upgrade will definetly be AMD
I'm really curious how the multi chiplet V-cache CPUs will perform
HUB Steve on the couch with chest exposed, good one Joe - lol -.
Buttons are great! Anybody try & use a touchscreen on cold winter days while wearing gloves? Even gloves with special tips only work about 30% of the time.
Touch screens are ok for some things but in a car, but I prefer buttons and knobs.
Intel are now basically in same position as AMD was with FX bulldozers cpus after their release and further but AMD survives thanks to GPU section up to Zen release
I was able to snag a 9800x3d at my local Micro Center said the last one they had in stock last night
7:49 As an ex Intel employee as of 2023 this would be a complete 180 move from what was said back in 2022. Pat Gelsinger visited our campus (Folsom, CA) and on stage in front of everyone...like 600 ppl in person and all the employees attending remotely... said that integrated graphics is (this will be paraphrased but the message is the same) "not market competitive anymore, the value add of integrated graphics has diminished to the point that we are not market competitive without discrete graphics in our product stack." During all the layoffs, my team took almost no hit in personnel because we worked in the discrete graphics testing and I still have friends in that division grinding away at ARC to this day. Dude if Intel drops ARC after all this....I'm actually afraid Intel might go under....
They have to arc just burns money
You should have been afraid before now.... Perhaps it's that Intel slow recognition playing out for them like it is for you...
Glad you are off that ship though.
I bought my LE Arc in hopes that it would add some competition and for the novelty. It was either going to be the discrete card that launched Intel into that segment for success, OR one of the only discrete cards Intel ever produces and become a collectors item. Seems like the latter is playing out.
I love that Paul is also playing in HUB Steve's standing vs. sitting meme. lol
Automobiles moving back to physical controls vs touch screen is a safety benefit for sure. You can make adjustments while keeping your eyes on the road.
Some extra pluses of Firefox, specifically for UA-cam-ing:
* Popout video is fantastic and supports Multiple pop-outs,
* has fully functioning volume slider and caption button, Back/Forward
* and will let you arbitrarily resize it however you want (works really well on a second screen, especially when the aspect ratios don't match exactly, like my 1920x1200 side screen)
* doesn't have an awful hazy gray overlay over the entire video as is so popular with horrible UI devs (lookin' at you, Vivaldi)
* EDIT: Oh, and it actually still shows up in the Windows media overlay, unlike some others
all in addition to fully functioning ublock O and really still the best addon market, specifically for optimized browsing and useful automation.
Good to see touchscreens going away. I have a car that has both. The danger of the touch screen is that you have to look away from the road to use it. Anyone who's driven for at least fifteen years knows with knobs and buttons you can control your car and your eyes never leave the road while taking canyon curves at a semi-safe speed. As for appliances. Buttons good where water resides, touch screen circuit boards, not so much.
As someone who doesnt want trillion dollar companies leaching my money through random fees and subscriptions, I will happily donate to keep Mozilla running if i can
Just bought my 98x3d yesterday and am getting ready to install it. My local CanadaComputers just had 10 chilling on the shelf lol. The difference from my 78x3d isnt huge but it's new and shiny!
One great thing about Canada is you can just walk in a store and buy all the shit that's immediately sold out in the US.
Intel fighting two fronts and losing on both. (CPU and GPU)
The 14nm+++++++++++++ (plus or minus one or two +) will live forever in my heart.
5th gen: 14nm
6th gen: 14nm
7th gen: 14nm
8th gen: 14nm, 10nm
9th gen: 14nm, 10nm
10th gen: 14nm, 10nm
11th gen: 14nm, 10nm
12th gen: 10nm
13th gen: 10nm
14th gen: 10nm, '7nm'
'15th gen': 3nm, '5nm', 10nm
tactile buttons can be used blind a touchscreen can not be used blind
underrated comment. I'm not blind, but I have given rides to a blind friend, and have had some interesting discussions that "opened my eyes." Reducing everything to a touchscreen effectively locks-out disabled people - they have even less agency, and are trapped there feeling like a lump, because they cannot even change the volume or air temperature.... Why would we do that to people? Is that trade-off really worth it? I don't feel like it is, and will not purchase a vehicle that uses touchscreens for everything.
9:30 This is much more to do with safety than "cool", you can't find an icon on a touchscreen without looking but you can find a button much more easily just by touch. They don't want drivers to have to keep looking at their touchscreens while driving and it's becoming illegal in some places.
The superhero picture cracked me up! It reminded me of "The Tic" and I mean the one with Patrick Warburton!🤣
Intel still has a staggering share of the market and will still outsell AMD this gen because people STILL think it’s better for gaming.
I think what happened was, AMD was sucking for like 20 years straight, that Intel got too complacent. Then AMD out of nowhere was like, "ZEN ARCHITECTURE, and we can deliver." That's when I bought AMD stock at like 15/share and within like a year, saw my stocks double and now they're literally worth like 10x that much.
It was about 10 years but the rest I agree and also bought my first AMD shares at 7 and later with Zen2 and Intel on 14+++ sold all my Intel shares and bought more AMD. 😊
I gave the person that did the research into my AM5 PC build last year a pat on the back. well done me.
Never thought that I would see the day when Intel will be second and AMD will come at the top !
Great news as long as competition still holds up and not ending up for AMD been the monopoly for CPUs !
Nvidia will probably be the main competition to AMD in 3-4 years in CPUs
So glad to hear about rebuttonization of cars. I like the larger, more versatile displays made possible by transplanting touchscreen technology into cars but I also think that they encourage distraction, and thus discourage safety, by enabling tiny, non-tactile "buttons" in the car's user interfaces. Being able to find a relevant control by touch alone without having to take one's eyes off the road is highly underrated.
Scalpers always have to ruin everything, don't they? But at least AMD shareholders must be happy...
Intel needed a good kicking, im just hoping it hasn't sustained terminal injuries. Though it does seem like they continue to make questionable decisions. Here's hoping they sort themselves out become competitive again.
Personally, I waiting for the 9950X3D! If it's rumored dual CCD V-cache layout and the ability to still overclock it is true, this "could" be a Beast of a CPU not only for gaming, but just about anything else you could throw at it!! Thinking to price on it will probably be in the $800 range!
2:15 I actually tried to click the notification bell thinking it was mine....dirp....😂😂
Turning intel around is going to be near impossible, because some, or most of the root cause, is the management, and the CEO's are unlikely to fire themselves.
If you want to create a equal, level and open work force where creativity and cooperation can thrive, it will be very hard getting there from a hiararchial system, like Boeing or Intel.
But they can be bought up by the competition, and then re-invented. It is still a (somewhat)solid brand.
There's no issue with the CEO. The struggles are a bit more complicated than that.
@exzld ceo's in plural. There is definately a problem, and there exist a culture of problems with overpaid leaders that keep a lid on serious issues, while they sell their stocks, and then report to Chinese before US, this was Krzanich, and current CEO meant all the chip initiative money should go to intel, while he was building fabs outside of USA, great suggestion. Current CEO has also laid off and cancelled people i regard as borderline genius. Meanwhile, a 14900k revision produced on 3nm would probably have performed 20-40% better than 285k, while being cooler, so how can a sitting leader not be responsible for such a catastrophic product line as the core 200 series? They go from 7nm to 3nm and the performance goes down?? That is unheard of, and outrageous.He is responsible because he is CEO, that is why he is CEO. The leader is also responsible for the culture in the company, which in intel means keep shut or get fired, and that is Not the culture you want if you promote innovation or a level work field where everyone can speak their concerns or ideas.
@@Anders357 the man has an engineering background so I really respect the guy. Also with the way things have been in the US can you blame for not building fabs in US? Where are the other people building? Also the CHIPS act has been blue balled by government so that didn't help either. Maybe once the new administrations cuts more red tape and taxes the building will begin but that's going too far topic. I understand the optics of the launch does not look good, but we are talking about a new architecture that is attempting to finally address the high wattage for efficiency. There is also the NPU and other aspects that had to be added. Could they have handled the raptor architecture fiasco better? A little bit but the competition everywhere is fierce as hell right now and something like AI has not shown immediate return for many people but they still gotta pursue it to remain relevant.. I get it but I am not going to pretend I could have done better. There are some suggestions I would definitely give them, but again there is so much going on. I believe the 200 series will get better with time and to be frank performance for gamers just is not that important right now which seems to be loudest group hating on them. Other than the previous architecture, things have not been too terrible. I really cannot picture a better CEO for the job right now. With everything bleeding edge on tech, his background and position in combination is valuable for vision and reality at the very least... That's how I see it so far. I did not have to deal with the last architecture, but everything else they have made, I have enjoyed immensely. I just wished support for products lasted little more than 7 years but I am probably just a bit greedy.
The voters have chosen and they chose the Cyberpunk 2077 timeline, except we won't get all the cool cybernetic body modifications.
Im pretty sure the 7600x3d has actually been available for a month or two now. I remember watching microcenter first remove, and later readd, bumping the original 7800x3d bundle from $500 to $600 and plopped the 7600x3d bundle at $450
intel doesnt need to stay in the competition. because once upon the time, they tried to push AMD out of business, and not by fair methods, no-no, they were using dirty tricks
2006 I bought my last amd chip, FX60. But managed to get a 9800x3d and will sell the 12700k and all once installed. Had enough of the high power and slower speed.
Remember when the former CEO of Firefox Laura Chambers made a ton of stupid changes which broke nearly two decades worth of backwards compatibility?
Remember when they pushed an update which wiped all data on the browser bookmarks, settings, passwords, etc without notice.
Remember when folks asked for them to revert the changes and not remove about:config on mobile?
Remember when Laura Chambers posted a picture on Twitter of herself on a blow up raft at a luxury resort drinking a mix drink and just so happened to be holding it in such a way she was giving the camera the middle finger and titled it "To all the haters"?
As a long time user of Firefox, and still user to this day I have a hard time shedding a tear for them, they fall has been long, love the product hate the people behind it.
Gelsinger needs to resign. Straight up.
Holy cow that sarcasm was sharp Paul, I'm not sure intel will recover from that, especially since that'd require them to take the criticism to heart.
thanks paul and joe!
It’s not just about buttons and knobs feeling better, it’s that with buttons I can control my cars Heat/AC and radio without ever taking my eyes off the road. With a touchscreen radio etc? Good luck.
Intel lost the trust and it’s going to be soo difficult to get it back
It's been interesting, to slowly see the descriptors for Intel's chips, to sound more and more like descriptions of AMD, CPUs from years ago.
knurling rules, and I'm all for the rebuttonization of things, cars, appliances, etc.
So ... Intel is completely mismanaged by it's top managers ... why aren't they replaced yet ???
because you need someone with experience to replace and all the experienced people went out some time ago because they didnt want to deal with the company problems
Wow - Hopefully we can keep all of the tech. companies around for the best that can be.
Yes, buttons and knobs would be much better than. touch screen for driving so you don't really have to look down. One of the biggest reason why I liked my 90s Chevrolet S-10 S15 GMC. trucks because they literally had it shaped like an arrow. I never. looked down while I was driving hardly. Back then I was kind of young and dumb too. So probably a good thing.
Was there a launch if there was no stock? (Or not enough?)
Actually if the power budget is unlocked on the Intel chip, it becomes 14% faster than the I9 14900. Plus the new MSI Intel mother boards are unleashing the memory booster Intel is not talking about for even more speed. On a side note Nexus confirmed they have to develop a new testing rig to test intel's newest chips because the old test rig does not take advantage of the chips full abilities.