A new way to enhance the Magnus effect, faster and more efficient

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • This video proposes a new method of using blades instead of end plates to enhance the Magnus effect, by which lift and lift-to-drag ratios can be increased above a certain velocity ratio.
    Patents:TWI 710501B,US11143159B2,CN 112141308B
    For experimental data:smartservo.org/...
    More information,refer to:smartservo.org/...
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    Heading West
    by Audionautix.com audionautix.com/
    Cruiser Ship 3D Model:Created by Herminio Nieves
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 32

  • @dragonkim3390
    @dragonkim3390 9 місяців тому +2

    this is really interesting and useful knoweldge video, thanks. Oneday, I'll build vessel with this technology

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  9 місяців тому

      Thank you for your appreciation and wish you can realize it soon

  • @johanneslindner4924
    @johanneslindner4924 Рік тому

    Awesome !
    Just awesome to see people inventing new and better things/ improving already existing Designs ^^
    Keep up the good work :D

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching and motivating, and you are welcome to watch the linear acceleration video of this invention => ua-cam.com/video/gMym621FtR8/v-deo.html

  • @rongarza9488
    @rongarza9488 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video! Carrying the "exhaust" idea to an extreme, what would a stack of end plates do, if they moved air to the shaft's ends?

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  3 місяці тому +1

      End plates work well at low speeds, but lift is saturated and drag is high at high speeds. In fact, the end plate can be considered a special case of a blade where the pitch angle is 0 and the solidity is 100%. Increasing the pitch angle as speed increases maintains the best results.

  • @macrumpton
    @macrumpton 5 місяців тому

    I wonder if you could reduce the pressure on the rotor between the end caps by having the rotor tapered, so that the center is wider than the ends. Another idea is create the rotor using disks like a Tesla turbine, which might have better flow attachment.

  • @philwxwlr481
    @philwxwlr481 10 місяців тому

    Amazing findings! I hope that you can translate this concept into an improved wing design.

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  10 місяців тому

      This can solve the problem of traditional Magnus effect aircraft without ailerons. The variable pitch can be used to adjust the lift on both sides of the rotor wing to control the roll of the aircraft. => ua-cam.com/video/gMym621FtR8/v-deo.htmlsi=FTBZagAl6b72N1Aw&t=244

  • @midclock
    @midclock 3 місяці тому +2

    Great, great video! This is science!
    I live in an area where the wind rarely reaches 2 m/s, so I always excluded any kind of wind generator, I'd be curious to see if this type could work or not.
    Probably here solar energy is a better choice, unfortunately.
    I would love to build one of these

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  3 місяці тому +1

      2 m/s is too low to utilize wind energy. maybe get faster wind speed by raising the altitude. This video is used to demonstrate the method of enhancing the Magnus effect. As for Magnus wind turbine, please refer to => ua-cam.com/video/9AdpggaOfF0/v-deo.htmlsi=R7wUJsnYsU_047aB

    • @midclock
      @midclock 3 місяці тому

      I've seen your other video, it's very interesting as well.
      Probably it's better to choose another source than wind, at least here, but in more windy areas, it will probably be a good choice.
      Is there any difference between this type of vertical turbine, and the horizontal with propellers in terms of how much energy is required to start rotating?

  • @rondavison8475
    @rondavison8475 2 роки тому +1

    Clean presentation and explanations of this idea.
    explain
    That can be an interesting compare.
    Magness
    1) the same wind forces on motor via current draw at speed, measure rpm, current, drag and lift plus there angles for vectorous math.
    this can tell you the effective diameter compared to the new effective area with boundary layer collapse.
    Very cool!
    When are you going to build an RC plane and post?
    :)

    • @rondavison8475
      @rondavison8475 2 роки тому

      fing grougle post
      Clean presentation and explanations of this idea.
      Another effect that can be significant part of the efficiency (or another way to explain it) is the end exhaust creates a vacuum at surface of cylinder, breaking down boundary layers and thus smaller EFFECTIVE diameter.
      That can be an interesting compare.
      Shrink original flat plate Magness, until:
      1) the same wind forces on motor via current draw at speed, measure rpm, current, drag and lift plus there angles for vectorous math.
      this can tell you the effective diameter compared to the new effective area with boundary layer collapse.
      Very cool!
      When are you going to build an RC plane and post?
      :)

    • @rondavison8475
      @rondavison8475 2 роки тому

      pick what to normalize to heading vector force - extra side drag force (ship)
      motor current or rpm or power or power, current, & rpm

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  2 роки тому +1

      @@rondavison8475 Thanks for watching and suggestions, some comparative experiments on endplates and blades are linked as => smartservo.org/en/ways-enhance-magnus-effect-en/
      Next step I'll do linear motion testing of the rotor with end plates or blades to show if the new method can make the ship faster.As for rotor-wing aircraft, the new method also has the opportunity to solve its inherent problem of "roll control".

  • @debunkified
    @debunkified 7 місяців тому

    Those counter rotating cylinders would have a gyroscopic effect that would stress the axes to death and most likely would bust it.

  • @aurigo_tech
    @aurigo_tech Рік тому

    Interesting! Seems like this indeed increases the magnus effect. Does is increase the effect even further with more bladed sections around a cylinder (not just at the ends)? Like compression steps in a jet engine.

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  Рік тому +1

      This idea should work, and being able to exhaust from both ends of the cylinder would work.

  • @harrovian2009
    @harrovian2009 4 місяці тому

    E excellent i love these sort of videos. Thank you for sharing❤❤❤❤

  • @jocosson8892
    @jocosson8892 Рік тому

    Have you tried putting holes thoughout the rotor and using an onboard fan to create a small negative air pressure; this could reduce the boundry layer and the air could be moved by the same motor that drives the rotor for simplicity.

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  Рік тому +1

      I think the method you mentioned should work, similar to patent JP2010121518 Fig 6a, But I don't want to punch holes in the circular surface of the cylinder because it would complicate the structure.

  • @dennisbecraft1303
    @dennisbecraft1303 6 місяців тому

    Does evacuation via bladed ends reduce the effect of surface roughness on lift?

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  6 місяців тому

      Exhausting air through the blade end can increase the air flow and reduce resistance without affecting other characteristics.

  • @ikobi
    @ikobi Рік тому +1

    Hi I'm exploring energy system ideas for African homes. Would you be open to working together to deploy these systems and testing them in Africa?

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  Рік тому

      Most of the videos are just concepts, and some have already taken shape. All implementation details will be published on the website in the future. Welcome to refer to smartservo.org/en/magnus-effect-vawt-main-en/

  • @getaclassmath
    @getaclassmath 4 місяці тому

    The difference is so small...

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  4 місяці тому +1

      Power and speed are not just linear relationships, but cubic relationships

  • @dougselsam5393
    @dougselsam5393 Рік тому +1

    Don't forget, the fans cause drag, and would require more power to rotate.

    • @SmartServo_org
      @SmartServo_org  Рік тому +1

      You can see here => ua-cam.com/video/uafRQlRvAkM/v-deo.html
      Comparing the endplates and blades at the same current, even though the bladed cylinder (1800 rpm) is slower than the endplate cylinder (2000 rpm), the turbine using the bladed cylinder is still faster. In addition, the main sources of energy consumption are: 1. The drag of the blades, 2. The friction of the cylinder's bearing. As the size of the cylinder increases, the former increases to the power of 2 (area) and the latter increases to the power of 3 (volume or mass). Therefore, when the size of the cylinder is very large, such as the propulsion of a ship, the energy consumption of the former will be much lower than that of the latter. and when the same Magnus thrust is generated, the rotation speed of the bladed cylinder is lower than that of the cylinder with endplates. This means that the blades can significantly reduce the frictional energy consumption of the cylinder.

    • @dennisbecraft1303
      @dennisbecraft1303 6 місяців тому

      I agree the increase in turbine power is due entirely to an increase in efficiency.
      However,
      rotation speed isn't as important as the load on the friction of the bearings.
      It puts greater load on the bearings to be transmitting 15% more power than it does with the same power at 15% higher rpm, right? The greater turbine output efficiency is due to the higher lift to drag resulting from blades vectoring the lift closer to 90⁰ from the apparent incoming wind thus increasing its torque rather than RPM.
      Am I making sense?