But are they above? Prime age talent vs Elite with questions . Prime age talent seems better than elite with questions - especially if Embid PG health is the question.
@ embid is top 2 inda league wen healthy pg injury prone and so far how does he look? Nd he on the down side of his career nd how many seasons of healthy embid left wen at his best 2nd round
No Kings? Fox and Sabonis are borderline All-NBA each of the last 2-3 years. Their third option (Derozan or Murray) is good enough to put them on this list I think
@@meltingintoair7581 That's a stupid excuse. How long does it take to edit a video under 1 hour long without having to edit out many things? Its a podcast those are not heavily edited. ESPN just slow
Um, huh. How the hell are the Knicks not on Tier 3 with how high powered their offense has looked? And how the hell is an injured core of the 76ers any promising than the Knicks and Cavs? And the Bucks in Tier 3, too? Sorry, guys, but this is disgusting work.
Because this is the first year they are really ready? Have you noticed them adding some of the best role players in the game to their team this summer? This is how it works
No they aren't. OKC has a bunch more youth and has SGA (who lets be honest is levels above Mitchell). Cavs have a nice squad for the now, OKC has a nice squad for the next decade
Listening to Bontemps mumble and stumble his way through why he left All NBA players like Trae Young and Julius Randle off this list is why ESPN is not a serious network anymore.
Christian Braun may need to be included in the nuggets core before too long. Even though these guys crucified Calvin Boothe for letting KCP walk to make room for him to grow. How is KCP doing in Orlando by the way?
😂😂 what is so elite about getting hurt. Philly over NY is crazy there best player this year has been a rookie. NY offense is absolutely ELITE do they watch the games?
the fact the Celtics is consensus #1 and yet 18 months ago pundits in the whole media asked to break up Tatum and Brown is crazy. I love the fact this team kept receipts of the media and hold a grudge about the fit. This anger could push the team to a back-to-back
Bro stop it.... there's still conversations to this day. The only reason they won that championship is, A. Injuries, B. Superteam. Now that the nba is a little more balanced they will not be going back to back.
@@cjamazing420 you sound crazy . You gotta be a casual . Super team .? They just added pieces to what they already had . Injuries .? Really as if any team that was healthy was gonna beat them anyway . And was Dallas hurt .? And what happened
The second episode in a row that belongs in the offseason. Also please stop with not taking injuries into account with the stupid lists and tiers if you are going to bother with this nonsense.
I'm taking Lamelo Ball, Brandon Miller, and Mark Williams over any 3 players young players Indiana cobbles together. They should have been in that 6th tier.
Bontemps again showing why he is the least knowledgeable basketball "expert". This guy hates the Knicks and over rates the 76ers. Not a serious person.
They had like a 2-year run that was great. 1st ring was when Bontemps called Windy a male donkey. Been on a serious decline in the past year. At the same time Lowe Post got ran into the ground with repeat obligatory Disney guests. Luckily All NBA pod has slid into the top spot to fill the void!
Knicks Bias is alive and well. Knicks for all intents and purposes ended The Process when Knicks fan took over Wells Fargo eliminating the Sixers in Game 6.
Lakers 10 and 5 (tied for 4th in the conf), with an mvp candidate and LeBron almost averaging a triple double, with Austin avg 18 I believe, it's 11th. Sure, makes total sense
What's the same with Jokic and Lebron..? to a lesser extent Harden and Russell Westbrook (in his prime). The entire offense is geared around high usage with one player. That inflates their stats to a great degree. Jokic flaming out after the regular season and having 3 MVP's just doesn't feel right. Especially with him getting 3 in a row. Only like 3 other players in history have that. Bill Russell, Larry Bird, and Wilt Chamberlin. How much are these MVP's generated around designed offenses?
So lets be real. You give any gm the choice between the knicks roster the bucks roster, they are choosing the knicks 10/10. Yeah giannis is great, but brunson is better than dame. And the team is well built. These guys are clowns.
Terrible list provided by Tim Bontemps. You don't need 10 tiers of for Roster construction. Terrible assessment of the current rosters with inconsistent reasoning for their rankings. You can't have a roster at tier "#3" and then giving a whole minute of reasoning why they're bad. The 76ers were a "#3" tier when they had Jimmy Butler and were in Game 7 of the second round. That age is over, their team has not improved, and has become more fragile than when they first had Embiid. This list needs to not have 10 tiers, and re-evaluate what they are seeing vs what narratives try to paint
Pacers above the Spurs is insanity. The Pacers are led by a guy who can barely score and can't defend. The Spurs have the future best player in the world
So what cores have had more success than the Miami Heat? It's less than 5. This list high level booty cheek clapping by Bontemps! Most successful and best big 3s are Boston, Denver, Golden State and Miami this list is a joke.
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Unserious list
76ers aren’t good. We have to learn this lesson every year.
Well their "potential" is to be good. But when Embiid is playing like aging Shaq, yeah they aren't making the playoffs unless that changes
How do you have sixers above cavs knicks clearly it isn’t working and there window is way shorter than the other 2
Because of Bontemps. He tries hard to hide his Sixers bias but it goes through all the time.
There big 3 has only played 6 minutes together numb nuts
But are they above? Prime age talent vs Elite with questions . Prime age talent seems better than elite with questions - especially if Embid PG health is the question.
They haven't been healthy at all yet how do you know it doesn't work? Embiid hasn't been hid normal self.. PG is better than bridges
@ embid is top 2 inda league wen healthy pg injury prone and so far how does he look? Nd he on the down side of his career nd how many seasons of healthy embid left wen at his best 2nd round
Larry Bird last year said of Jokic "he makes that whole thing (Nuggets) go" and the on-off the floor rating difference really shows that
No Kings? Fox and Sabonis are borderline All-NBA each of the last 2-3 years. Their third option (Derozan or Murray) is good enough to put them on this list I think
This can’t be recent lmfao
These guys are losing credibility by the day 😔
Pshh, you think these episodes can be released same day of recording? Do you have any idea how much editing goes on behind the scenes?
Recorded on Wednesday. Windy wore that exact outfit on First Take, probably did it later that day so its a couple of days delayed
@@meltingintoair7581 That's a stupid excuse. How long does it take to edit a video under 1 hour long without having to edit out many things? Its a podcast those are not heavily edited. ESPN just slow
Let's see where Orlando and Houston rank in a few months 🤓
ESPN making tier list content. The shark has been jumped.
Um, huh. How the hell are the Knicks not on Tier 3 with how high powered their offense has looked? And how the hell is an injured core of the 76ers any promising than the Knicks and Cavs? And the Bucks in Tier 3, too? Sorry, guys, but this is disgusting work.
He sucks. They need him off the show.
Bontemps is literally the biggest glazer at that network it's like whoever NBA 2k has as the highest overall rating that's his picks. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
How is OKC championship ready but they haven’t done anything ?
Because this is the first year they are really ready? Have you noticed them adding some of the best role players in the game to their team this summer? This is how it works
Every team has to be championship ready before winning their first championship. That's how it works
Lmao are you new to basketball? If you wanna win a championship for the first time you have to be championship ready. That's how it works
One correction: Bill Russell also won four MVPs in five years (1961-63, 1965)
Did I just see the Knicks at 7th and Bucks and Sixers are ahead of them? This is why this show has no credibility.
That's a fact lol
Bucks just had a slow start Sixers are cooked watch yo mouth
I genuinely don't understand how the Thunder can be tier 1 but Cavs are tier 4. Their cores are pretty similar.
If the thunder wasn’t hurt they’ll be on a tier of their own
SGA
No they aren't. OKC has a bunch more youth and has SGA (who lets be honest is levels above Mitchell). Cavs have a nice squad for the now, OKC has a nice squad for the next decade
@@blablablaa14you clearly don’t have eyes on the Cavs.
@zee216 lmao and you dont watch the thunder lmao 😂
Listening to Bontemps mumble and stumble his way through why he left All NBA players like Trae Young and Julius Randle off this list is why ESPN is not a serious network anymore.
Randle makes sense. he is a free agent this summer and he just got there. Trae Young doesnt make sense at all.
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I've always wondered, what is the song/beat in the intro? Is there a full version somewhere???
Christian Braun may need to be included in the nuggets core before too long. Even though these guys crucified Calvin Boothe for letting KCP walk to make room for him to grow. How is KCP doing in Orlando by the way?
anyone who under estimate the importance of Wiggins either doesn't know GSW well or a JK fan
😂😂 what is so elite about getting hurt. Philly over NY is crazy there best player this year has been a rookie. NY offense is absolutely ELITE do they watch the games?
"u ain't watchin' the games, P!"
the fact the Celtics is consensus #1 and yet 18 months ago pundits in the whole media asked to break up Tatum and Brown is crazy. I love the fact this team kept receipts of the media and hold a grudge about the fit. This anger could push the team to a back-to-back
Facts now they wanna ride the wave 💯☘️
Bro stop it.... there's still conversations to this day. The only reason they won that championship is, A. Injuries, B. Superteam. Now that the nba is a little more balanced they will not be going back to back.
@@cjamazing420 all I read was "EXCUSES"
@@cjamazing420too much excuses
@@cjamazing420 you sound crazy . You gotta be a casual . Super team .? They just added pieces to what they already had . Injuries .? Really as if any team that was healthy was gonna beat them anyway . And was Dallas hurt .? And what happened
somone might lose their job over this. This is so wrong
The second episode in a row that belongs in the offseason. Also please stop with not taking injuries into account with the stupid lists and tiers if you are going to bother with this nonsense.
I like this over here episodes on the Lakers
I'm taking Lamelo Ball, Brandon Miller, and Mark Williams over any 3 players young players Indiana cobbles together. They should have been in that 6th tier.
We gotta see Mark Williams, this man been injured forever.
@@Shortballa11 Totally agree. Frustrating that there are like minimal updates as well
Ja Morant, Desmond Bane & Jaren Jackson Jr. will shock everyone by the end of this season.
They gotta stay healthy
Siakam’s presence has for sure changed the way they play, but are they a better team? I’ve watched them a bit, and they just seem … stagnant at times
Man, having bucks and sixers over cavs is embarrassing
This was a total espn media driven list
Bontemps again showing why he is the least knowledgeable basketball "expert". This guy hates the Knicks and over rates the 76ers. Not a serious person.
cavs 16-1 with an average age of 25.5 and they not a top 5 core lmao. alright mane
Haters gonna hate. Go Cavs
just when i thought you guys couldn't get any worse
Terrible and it’s been consistent recently saying outrageous things 76ers and the bucks above the Knicks with a whole younger core 😂😂
Even the Cavs
They had like a 2-year run that was great. 1st ring was when Bontemps called Windy a male donkey. Been on a serious decline in the past year. At the same time Lowe Post got ran into the ground with repeat obligatory Disney guests. Luckily All NBA pod has slid into the top spot to fill the void!
Great final point!
The Cavs segment turned into the Celtics segment 😂 joke of a pod.
Im lost on how we are defining this? Are we judging which core is best now or for the future 3 years?
He obviously hasn’t watched a rocket game this year.
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This one was tough to listen to.
If you’re going to compare Jokic and Giannis I’m going to need you to compare them on both ends of the court.
Knicks Bias is alive and well. Knicks for all intents and purposes ended The Process when Knicks fan took over Wells Fargo eliminating the Sixers in Game 6.
It's too bad about this franchise since MacMahon is still a top-tier color commentary co-star. Maybe a new head coach and Bontemps as 6th man?
Raptors are nowhere to be found on here. My fault for thinking this would cover the entire association I guess
Lakers 10 and 5 (tied for 4th in the conf), with an mvp candidate and LeBron almost averaging a triple double, with Austin avg 18 I believe, it's 11th. Sure, makes total sense
Im a celtics fan, but I Agree with you. They look quite good so far. Way better than most of the eastern conference.
It is surprising to see the Lakers underrated for once after being perennially overrated on every national list for years
People saying sixers got the best big 3 but they forget about tatum brown and kp lol ill take the celtics big 3 in a heartbeat
Daniel Gafford is the top 3 players on dallas!
this has to be old
Lmao this List is Pure Asinine lol.
This list is so wrong in so many way! Still it's a Good discussion
they are just trolling at this point.
Gotta show the Orlando Magic some love or you not a fan of ball.
What's the same with Jokic and Lebron..? to a lesser extent Harden and Russell Westbrook (in his prime). The entire offense is geared around high usage with one player. That inflates their stats to a great degree. Jokic flaming out after the regular season and having 3 MVP's just doesn't feel right. Especially with him getting 3 in a row. Only like 3 other players in history have that. Bill Russell, Larry Bird, and Wilt Chamberlin. How much are these MVP's generated around designed offenses?
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Damian Lillard is getting exposed in Milwaukee.
sixers are not making the playoffs
Bontems is so testy😅
Can someone get Windy some better headphones please????
This is a very unserious list
Bontemps is espn's dei hire😂
Lamelo Ball, Brandon Miller, and Mark Williams > the entire 6 tier..........go argue with a mannequin.
lol 2 minutes on the thunder and 10 on the nuggets....
Just sleeping on the clippers with top 5 defense, winning without Kawhi ok 😭😭🤦🏾♂️
Unfortunately he's always injured or on vacation
Bontemps is a joke
This is an atrocious list 😂 Bontemps’ editor should’ve nuked the article
Why they always leave out MPJ as the nuggets 3
Cause he is been awful
He’s inconsistent but you can interchange Aaron Gordon and MPJ. Aaron Gordon has a more upside defensively.
AG > MPJ
Core 4
Yo tell me you hate the knicks without telling me you hate the knicks. How is Milwaukee or philly in tier 3 but NY isn't.
We need new analysts at espn. All this old player glazing is dumb
This must be pre recorded cuz ur high if tou think the 76ers have a good core. Maxey and McCain with a bunch of nobodies
SacrMento kings???
So lets be real. You give any gm the choice between the knicks roster the bucks roster, they are choosing the knicks 10/10. Yeah giannis is great, but brunson is better than dame. And the team is well built. These guys are clowns.
Does bontemps know the Sixers worst team in nba? & Haliburton is overrated if he’s the best player on your team your in trouble
Completely unserious list after the Celtics and thunder. Will not be watching. Try again next episode.
Giannis > Joker
at losing..
Awkward and lazy podcast
lol
this has to be the worst list I have ever seen by people who consider themselves serious. what is this
Spurs are better than the pacers stop
Terrible list provided by Tim Bontemps. You don't need 10 tiers of for Roster construction. Terrible assessment of the current rosters with inconsistent reasoning for their rankings. You can't have a roster at tier "#3" and then giving a whole minute of reasoning why they're bad. The 76ers were a "#3" tier when they had Jimmy Butler and were in Game 7 of the second round. That age is over, their team has not improved, and has become more fragile than when they first had Embiid. This list needs to not have 10 tiers, and re-evaluate what they are seeing vs what narratives try to paint
Lol this the worst list I’ve ever seen. Cavs and knicks above sixers bucks and maybe even Denver.
No body talks about the warriors wich is insane
No spurs is nuts the way everyone on wembys little basketballs
With stupid takes like these dudes make..now I see why the rating on down in the NBA!!
here we go again. Tim Bontemps a clown lol how much Nike pays these people and NBA?
Pacers above the Spurs is insanity. The Pacers are led by a guy who can barely score and can't defend. The Spurs have the future best player in the world
Cavs at 4 is hilarious
Probably should be higher, especially at the moment.
So what cores have had more success than the Miami Heat? It's less than 5. This list high level booty cheek clapping by Bontemps! Most successful and best big 3s are Boston, Denver, Golden State and Miami this list is a joke.
Brian windows knows literally nothing about basketball