It’s not about the number stamped on the club. It’s about the distance it delivers. Whether it’s a 7-iron, 6-iron, or whatever the loft suggests, we play the yardage, not the label. Let’s focus on the performance, not the number.
Performance is interesting. On the Adapt (non max) irons the spin rates were about what I would expect given the loft, the launch angles were marginally higher than the loft would suggest, but that might be more about Rick's delivery, so the 7i has the loft of my 5i but launches the same as my 6i. Gapping though looks to be a problem: 13 yards per club between 5i & 7i but 15 yards per club between 7i & PW is a bit bigger than I would like. However, given the likely swing speed of the target market this is probably not the biggest issue. If anything the performance of the max irons is better. The gapping is still a problem but spin rates and launch angles are pretty good given the lofts. It would have been a better video if Rick had shown the peak height and descent angles for the clubs compared to his normal clubs
These clubs are designed for people with 7 iron Swing.speeds around 75 MPH. At that speed, they probably go around 155-160 yards. That would be a "normal" distance for a 7 iron.
Yes, but at that swing speed and that loft, you are hitting it the distance of a 7-iron with the spin of a 3-iron. So good luck getting that to stop on a firm green.
@@Iamwrongbutmost people using these clubs are likely adding loft at impact let’s be honest. You’re not going for these if you actually compress the ball
I'd be curious to see Rick do a comparison between his own irons and a super game improvement/distance iron like this when it comes to accuracy at certain distances. For example, what would he actually hit more greens at from 200 yards? His own 5 iron or a distance 7 iron? What about from 170 yards? His own 7 iron or a distance 9 iron? I can't help but wonder if the shorter shaft and more forgiving head would actually lead to better dispersion when compared for distance (not club number).
I agree do good players actually golf better these days in normal courses with blades than with more “game improvement irons? Does a scratch to 10 handicapper actually hit more greens with blades?
Couldn't agree more... the ONLY reason a club level golfer should play a forged blade, is if they want to work the ball with shape and have the ability to. If you just hit it straight at the pin each time..play more cavity. These club feel and sound amazing, nothing like the hollow game improvement irons of the past
height more than makes up for spin. In his own video he hits a 7 iron 200 in the air and it stops 204. What club in any make or model is going to stop quickr than that from 200 yards.
You hit these clubs perfectly. They did exactly what they are suppose to do. Height can stop balls as well. The average golfer doesn't hit a lot of backspin anyways. These clubs will help so many golfers. It was clear you were going to find things to hate at start of the video. You could tell without hitting them youd hate on them Lol
@ my favorite on the driver review he didn’t even hit the draw bias driver. It’s suppose to be a review 90% of golfers watching need the draw bias club but since it didn’t suit ricks game he didn’t review it. Who are his “reviews” for the golfer watching or him? I use to enjoy Rick but over time he’s gotten this god complex like he’s better than everyone. He’s like a kid with a defiance disorder that will always do the opposite. It’s why he can’t break 80 anymore. He won’t take advice and refuses to use clubs to fit his game.
If you consider that a 7-iron has approximately the loft of a 5-iron in more traditional clubs, a spin rate of 4915 is not bad, especially with Rick's draw. Many golfers would have to end their set with a 6 iron. Most would not get along with a 21-degree 5 iron.
I've just done this with my new Callaway AI smoke HL irons. My old 7i was 35⁰ and my new 7i is 30⁰. Works out that my new clubs a are nearly exactly 1 club stronger. I used to go from 5-PW now I have 6-AW. Still the same amount of irons just the number on the bottom has changed 1 club.
I just checked my Cobra King Speedzone OL irons. The 7i off-the-rack was 27.5 degrees. So, agreed that these are insanely more aggressive than historical norms, but it sounds like these are consistent with what Cobra has been putting out there in the 2020s. Good review and callout on spin rates.
People keep refering tk traditional lofts like it matters. As drivers and 3 woods go further, irons have to go further to fill in the gaps. Due to new technology they are able to lower the lofts of irons while still making them easy to hit.
Never haven’t watched till the end of a Rick video before. But when half the video is about loft and distance, it’s not helpful. Hit your gamer iron from 150 yards. Then hit whatever iron in this set goes 150 yards. Doesn’t matter what the static loft or number on the irons is. Which one performed better? Would a beginner do better hitting a traditional 7 iron from 150 or a modern 9 iron? That’s all that matters. Comparing and talking about traditional 7 iron vs modern 7 iron is pointless in my opinion.
Sad but too true. But anyone any good playing with someone shooting 97 knows they don’t hit a real 7 iron 190. Those same people claiming that would hit a 3 wood 200….useless for gapping
@@charlieg9559 I’m also in my 50s, but I still prefer nearly standard lofts. These sets always fail on one end or the other. You either end up with 11 wedges, or 11 hybrids
I was in a big box store and was hitting a Srixon zx5 mk2. I was carrying the 7 iron 192/195 rolling out to 205/212. The sales guy said look at that. I smiled and told him that's not what I'm looking for in an iron. Told him to have a great day and walked out.
OMG same but i was hitting the pw 189 Carry,told him to stick them where the sun don't shine i hit my traditional lofted pw 195(carry, total distance 225!!!) We are something else aren't we?
The lack of knowledge here about how modern irons work is unbelievable. These lower lofted irons fly higher than older 7 irons that are higher lofted due to weighting, design and faster ball speeds. If todays lower lofted iron goes further and higher than older irons then to replicate the same distance of the older 7 irons you would hit an 8 or a 9 in todays irons. The test is to use both older and newer irons to hit a specific distance. Once you have that specific distance look at flight of each ball not the loft.
@colinbrown1321 however many it takes to give you what you need. Same amount of clubs. As the newer irons are so much longer you don't need as many on the other end. Companies aren't going to restrict technology just because someone doesn't want to reconfigure their wedges. Nothing has changed. You still have a bag of clubs that hits balls specific distances. You just pull the club you need for that distance. The benefit is that you can now cover longer distances with greater height that helps stop the ball.
Thing is, a set like this isn't really designed for a player in the single figures. Put this in the hands of a slower swing-speed player who struggles to hit their 7i 140yds and it'll be perfect for them! Might get them up to 150yds instead.
I love Cobra products, use a King F6 driver and F max superlite irons at the moment. The irons are really light so I'd love something like these when they are cheaper
I wonder if they factored in that higher handicap players tend to deloft during their swing. Like dynamically, I’d like to see what kind of numbers a high handicapper gets.
Funny thing in the video that you were hitting them here they weren’t rolling out and having problems stopping. They were performing absolutely awesome, you would likely benefit from having the regular adapt set in your own bag. Can’t be anything wrong with the club if it’s so easy as you say to hit, and does the job without any effort let’s make this game easier rather than trying to be a hero hitting hard to hit clubs and getting miracle shots I mean disappointed when they don’t work out. Golf is hard enough as it is.
I play the Corba King MIM Tour irons from 2021 and the 7 iron is 33 degrees and carry on a full swing 180 yards on a normal 75 degree no wind day. Love cobra clubs, LTD x driver, MIM Wedges and Supernova putter. LTD 4 Hybrid.
This is not the place to come for club reviews. Low spin isn’t an issue if the decent angle is steep. Talk more about that. And the first 2 shots perfectly explained why the lofts are strong, to help get distance on mis hits
Thanks for the review, Rick. These clubs are designed for a certain type of golfer-slow swing speed, golfers who need some help with elevation and distance and perhaps geared towards a beginner or a more senior golfer. These clubs make the game easier for a large part of the golfing world. Nothing wrong with that.
The problem with your statement is you’re the exception and not the norm. The majority of golfers play less than once a month. They need irons like these for 2 reasons, 1st these launch a lot easier due to the lower center of gravity and the mass of the iron. Second they are ultra forgiving. You have to think the quality of your strike vs the typical monthly golf is absurdly massive! People shouldn’t take the game so seriously. We’re all different and no reason why we all need to play the same equipment. Signed a 9 handicapper playing Game Improvement 30 degree 7 iron loft! I don’t ever compete nor do I intend too. Golf is a relaxation method for me, and I play twice a week.
@@DMKFACTOR it’s just a ego thing playing these irons either means more wedges or big gaps at the bottom of the bag they strong lofts are just a marketing tactic to make said golfer who doesn’t play as much to think the club goes miles when really its because that 7 iron isn’t 6-5 with 7 stamped on it
You've given Cobra a bit of a beating this last few days Rick! The thing is, if you want to hit further, decrease the loft, or have muscles like Rory and Bryson. I struggle to keep higher lofted clubs on the straight and narrow sometimes and won't look at these as a future option. Looking forward to hearing what you have to say about the other new ones coming on the market. Keep them coming. 👏👏
Coming from a certified fitter.. these feel amazing and get a ton of distance. But they don’t get a ton of spin.. so it’s hard to keep them on the greens
@ when you hit a shot with a 7 iron, if the shaft and head specs are correctly fitted to you that ball should hit the green and roll no more than 2 yards forward. Ideally If it can hit then just stop that’s what we want. Rpm’s off spin is what does that for us UNLESS we have an extremely high peak height, or crazy decent angle. It looks like Rick can hit a ball pretty high so he’s sort of able to hold the greens but even he is getting about 5 yards of rollout which is way too much (in my opinion) for a 7 to roll out. You just can’t be as accurate with that much.
@ you are worrying too much about the arbitrary number stamped on the club. Ignore that. To say a ball rolling out 5 yards on a 200+ yard shot is “too much” is just ridiculous and far from reality for most. The real comparison is what club of his does he hit that distance and what rollout does that club get? The number 7 should be irrelevant. It’s at this point just to have a reference to the other clubs in your set
@@pipedown7969 now I totally get what you’re saying with the distances relative to his clubs. But if you give someone a blade, they’re going to hit that ball 40 yards shorter than a super game improvement iron. These Cobras are for someone who only purely wants distance(the older crowd that just runs the ball up to the green).
I fail to see what the issue is. 199 yards carry with a 4 yard roll out. The loft and number on the bottom doesn't mean anything. Can you stop any of your current clubs in less distance at 200 yards? The real test is to pick the club from his bag that he can carry 200 yards and compare the accuracy, height, trajectory and stopping distance with the Cobra 7 iron. Then find the club from each set that carries 210, 220 and 230. Lets see what happens then. Stop focusing on loft.
I'd really like to see somone do a video with some of these new strong lofted irons and how it impacts the bottom of their bag ( wedges etc...) with distances from 150 to 100 yards.
It's now apparent that these new clubs are for the poorer ball striker that needs help, not the Rick Shiels of the world. My first "complaint" of the Callaway Rogue X's I got a few years ago was that they were too long. I still feel that way, as I now carry a 50, 56, and 58 degree wedge. I rarely use that 6 or 7 iron. I'm 77 with a 15 handicap.
Hey Rick, remember when you used to cut golf balls in half, to see the tech, what about doing it with clubs... Go on, you know you want to... We'd absolutely love it... ;)
A better comparison would be the spin rate of a particular distance for each club. For example the spin rate of a 180 yard 7 iron with the cobra and the spin rate of another club that goes 180 yards. I would expect the spin rates wouldn’t be much different.
Why is Rick comparing his 7 iron to this 7 iron? His 5 iron is this 7 iron. Two different clubs entirely and it’s shocked with it being 20 extra yards 🤣 if you treat the cobra 7 iron like a 5 I don’t see the problem
Irons should be labeled by their loft.. instead of hitting a 7 iron, you are hitting a 27° iron. This would eliminate brands bringing out stronger irons just so they “go farther”
I've been saying this for years. I'm a 16hcp. My strong pitching wedge goes around 130yards, but a traditional 50degree gap wedge was going 110, and I was getting stuck between clubs so I had to throw in a 48 degree gap wedge as well
The quality of reviews is really going downhill. You can tell Rick doesn’t actually keep up with golf technology anymore just regurgitating the loft thing repeatedly
Also think something you are missing, given the price of clubs people will be able to carry 6 iron -wedge plus a hybrid/fairway and driver and basically have all yardages covered.
It makes total sense to have a stronger loft iron. Most amatures when they hit 6 or 5 iron struggle. Have a 5 iron the length of a 7 iron, you will probably rip it. Might not be for ever but they make a lot of sense.
My 7 is at 28.5. And 8 32.5. So I’m not really concerned with loft as much as gaping with 6 clubs in the bag going shorter. Back in the day the 6 was my confidence club. Now has been moved to 7 is all.
Yes it's gone too far and it's all about marketing in my opinion plus the fact that modern golf retailers now have launch monitors in their showroom. A lot of casual golfers especially beginners looking for game improvement clubs test mid irons usually a 7 or 6 and get impressed by how far they go without realising why. Back in the day 3 irons were the norm in a set and pitching wedges were 50-51 degrees that were actually used for pitch shots that are now the domain of gap and 'approach' wedges. I myself felt confused when I tested a game improvement 7 iron and averaged 165 meters which was 20 meters longer than I was used to but the set stopped at the 5 iron, and later a clubfitter later explained to me that the lofts were completely different. That was back in 2017, needless to say I bought a traditionally lofted set of irons from him. Now in 2024 the lofts are even stronger! My current 7 iron is 34, 4 iron is 23 and pitiching is 47 degrees and I'm not buying a strong lofted set anytime soon despite being in my 60s.
It would be interesting to see you (and other testers) bring a mid or high handicapper in when testing forgiveness irons. But that would be a lot more work as you'd need to run through a lot more shots to get a real average from us guys.
Love the reviews! Absolutely shocking that the 7 iron is 25 degrees. Soon the 7 iron is going to be a driving iron 🤦♂️ I have been looking to upgrade my irons that are 15 years old, but it’s a 34 deg 7 iron. Really hard to gauge a 7 iron when that’s my 5 iron 🤷🏻♂️
Rick does this same 'bit' every single year when he reviews cobra irons. Like he's pretending to be shocked at the loft of a 7, but that's been the same case for cobra (and honestly most game improvement irons) for years. Playing dumb to have a talking point that the actual audience for clubs like this and then beating it into the ground is a waste of everyone's time.
These are game/super game improvement irons designed for beginners and 20+ hcp that need all the help they can get. But these lofts are getting out of hand. I’m a 9 hcp and play 718 AP2s where the 7 iron is 34 deg. I’m looking to upgrade to T150s which are 2 deg stronger through the bag. The big issue with stronger lifts is gapping down the bottom end of the bag. If a PW is 43 deg you really start needing 5 wedges to have consistent gapping. That and you have to redo all your yardages. I know my 7 iron is a 150m carry and I’m +/- 10m through my irons.
Most of the reviewers keep missing the point over and over again every year. These are designed for slower swing speed players. There are players out there who need these kinds of iron lofts in order to fill all the distance gaps. Quit worry about what a 7 iron loft "should be". No one should care about that as long as they hit the proper distances needed. I play the Cobra Radspeed irons (27.5 deg 7 iron) and they are great. I currently go driver 5w 7w 4hyb then 5 iron. If I play something of "more standard" loft I'd need at least another hybrid if not two more to fill the gaps up top which means I'd have to pull out a wedge or two.
Depends on what "traditional" refers to, back in the nineties/early 2000's almost all 7 irons had 36 degrees of loft, 8 irons were 40 and so forth. Go back further and and we'd find even more loft per iron. Having played numerous sets back in the 90's those lofts matched up well, also considering the limited shaft options compared to today. I could never see bending my '97 taylormade burner tour 7 iron down much lower than 36° as the trajectory was already "penetrating ", helped by stiff Precision rifle shaft. The 5 iron in that set had nearly 29 degrees of loft and could be a handful of trouble on an off day, lol! Thirty eight inches of "flush it or else!" New irons with strong lofts are a different design altogether, with the so called traditional lofts you'd be hitting that 7 iron a mile up in the air. These hollow head low center of gravity and even more tech irons actually require less loft. Fun video, Rick!
Rick is showing his age with these reviews... lol. For the bloke that hits his driver 220 yards, why would you not want the stronger lofts on the 7-p, they aren't able to hit a 6 iron and higher. Also after his video with Bryson he is all about speed training and hitting the ball farther. If you can do it with technology, why not?
Be interesting to see this type of club with proper lofts. Put the 7 iron to 34 degrees and I'm sure it will go normal distance and spin around 7000rpm just like any other 34 degree 7 iron. In theory it they would go normal distances with normal spin but be easy to hit . Worth a try.
The people that these are designed for probably shouldn’t have a 7 iron in the bag at this loft… by 27 degrees loft they should be in hybrids and fairway woods.
Can you play the Max Irons on a course vlog? Maybe 9 holes and see what you shoot? Get the distances before hand, but I'd be curious what you do with them.
I think strong lofted clubs have had these lofts for quite some time. I know my son´s Callaway Mavrik 22 have the same lofts. 7i is 27, PW 41. But it really does not matter as long as you have the clubs that cover each distance you need, I guess.
I think lofts don't really care on irons, let me explain. I think in order to give an iron a certain number, you have to match launch and spin. So a 7 iron should launch at 20-25 and have 6000-7000. Whatever loft you need to achieve those numbers would be your 7 iron.
Your fixation about how strong irons are makes no sense. Who cares about the number? Its the loft that matters and how long it goes. Bryson must have proven this by now.
In the Ds adapt max set the PW has 11.5 degrees difference to the SW, to put that into perspective that difference is the same as my 9 iron to my 56 degree wedge, all this loft jacking means you will have to buy lots of specialty wedges for gapping and beginners players will definitely not do that. Just start putting lofts on the club problem solved
Lots of hate in the comments, sorry guys but loft angle absolutely matters, as do other factors like material, weight, etc. Just for grins, here is a list of Cobra's 7-iron loft angles for the past 30 years. I think it makes sense for the PGA to standardize loft angles, the changes are getting a bit silly. For reference, 2024 PGA tour average carry for a 7-iron is 145-165 yards. Year Model 7-Iron Loft 1994 King Cobra Oversize 37° 1996 King Cobra II Oversize 37° 1999 Gravity Back 36° 2000 CXI Men's 36° 2002 King Cobra SS Oversize 36° 2004 King Cobra 3400 I/XH 34° 2006 King Cobra FP 33° 2008 King Cobra S9 32° 2011 S3 Irons 30° 2013 AMP Cell Irons 30° 2015 Fly-Z Irons 30° 2017 King F7 Irons 30.5° 2018 King F8 Irons 29.5° 2019 King F9 Speedback Irons 29.5° 2020 King SpeedZone Irons 27.5° 2021 RADSPEED Irons 26.5° 2022 LTDx Irons 26.5° 2023 Aerojet Irons 26.5°
It literally doesn't. You just need to have every distance that matters to you gapped and covered with a club you like. Maybe instead of a 7 iron going 170, now your 8 iron goes 170. Then you just get an extra wedge for the bottom of the bag gapping. Having a club for each distance is what matters, not the number stamped on the bottom
I get where you are coming from. But the issue is around standards. I’m new to the game, still learning how to hit and figure out my distances. If someone hits their 7i 130, while someone else hits it 170, that becomes my expectation. If the number on the club doesn’t matter, why don’t we just standardize clubs by listing loft instead of number? I started learning on a 25 year old set of Cleveland irons. When I tried out some newer irons I was getting 20 more yards per iron. I attributed it to “newer technology/materials”, then learned when I got home that the loft on the newer used clubs I just bought was 6° different. I made the mistake of thinking there were standards that i could base my results upon.
@YoPaulieMusic we do for some clubs like wedges, driver, woods, and even hybrids. Irons are actually the one club that doesn't really place lofts. There is no such thing as "standard" for golf. There are different tees for different skill levels. There are different shafts for swing speeds. There are a TON of iron options depending on swing speed, launch angle, skill level, ball striking. If you are new and you're trying to compare yourself and your distances to people that swing faster and different than you, then you are going to spend more time frustrated than anything. The only thing that matters is that you have a club that hits the distance that you need, not the number on the bottom. Once you realize that, then the game is much more simple.
Loft matter but so does cg and launch angle… he was hitting a green 200 yards away and not getting a ton of rollout… you can’t sit and say it’s just loft differences making this happen
@@pipedown7969 I didn't say that it was just loft. I specifically said "loft angle absolutely matters, as do other factors like material, weight, etc." Please pay attention.
DeChambeau 7i is 25°. Who cares what the loft is? Does it go the distance you want? Does it stop how you want it to? That's what matters. My 7i is 34°, carries 155-160, and holds any green I can hit. Different swings/speeds have different needs.
It’s a just a race to say you have the longest irons. For strong players who have good deliveries these are no good, but for “ scoopers” or those who lack forward lean these work. That said slower swingers want distance, these may launch too low. Also you likely play down to only a 6 or 7 iron, so you can buy more woods and wedges.
Not much difference in loft to the ltdx or the darkspeed Ltdx 5 iron is 20.5, 7 iron is 26.5 Darkspeed 5 iron is 21 7 iron is 27 So no stronger than cobra have been for a few years
What I would like to see Rick is a strong lofted 7 vs a standard 5. I have relatively strong lofted irons with a 31 degree 7 and I honestly feel more confident over top of a 180-190 yard shot with a 7 in my hands then the 5. I don’t know if it is actually shown to be more accurate or not.
To add to that…I know you like technology that makes golf easier…to a new golfer, does a strong lofted club like this make it easier? My son plays even stronger lofted clubs than mine and I honestly love hitting them too! Just nice and easy to get the extra distance.
Again, I’ve seen this in your videos about spin rate vs other 7 irons…I think you are comparing apples to oranges…please do a comparison video of strong lofted clubs vs standard (7 vs 5…spin, accuracy and feel). It seemed as though you hit them well…I have the same feeling with mine.
High handicapper: “yeah, i hit my 7 about 190”. Steps up with 3 wood and hits it 190 as well
Guilty.
Never seen anything more true
It’s not about the number stamped on the club. It’s about the distance it delivers. Whether it’s a 7-iron, 6-iron, or whatever the loft suggests, we play the yardage, not the label. Let’s focus on the performance, not the number.
Agreed. Take the numbers off. We'll figure out how to differentiate the clubs.
That's true, you just have to carry 8 wedges to make up the gaps in the bottom end of the bag lol
Hear hear
Just put the loft on them. Hell the dark speed 4 iron has a lower loft than the 3 hybrid
Performance is interesting.
On the Adapt (non max) irons the spin rates were about what I would expect given the loft, the launch angles were marginally higher than the loft would suggest, but that might be more about Rick's delivery, so the 7i has the loft of my 5i but launches the same as my 6i. Gapping though looks to be a problem: 13 yards per club between 5i & 7i but 15 yards per club between 7i & PW is a bit bigger than I would like. However, given the likely swing speed of the target market this is probably not the biggest issue.
If anything the performance of the max irons is better. The gapping is still a problem but spin rates and launch angles are pretty good given the lofts.
It would have been a better video if Rick had shown the peak height and descent angles for the clubs compared to his normal clubs
These clubs are designed for people with 7 iron Swing.speeds around 75 MPH. At that speed, they probably go around 155-160 yards. That would be a "normal" distance for a 7 iron.
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Yes, but at that swing speed and that loft, you are hitting it the distance of a 7-iron with the spin of a 3-iron. So good luck getting that to stop on a firm green.
@@Iamwrongbutmost people using these clubs are likely adding loft at impact let’s be honest. You’re not going for these if you actually compress the ball
@@pipedown7969 if you are adding loft dynamically then you are getting even less spin on the ball which makes the problem even worse haha
But someone with a 75mph swing speed will only hit a sand wedge 70-80 yards. Not great for gapping if you can hit your set pitching wedge 130 yards
Going back even as far as the 'Radspeed' irons, the 7 iron was 27.5 degrees. So i'm not sure why you act shocked every single year?!
100% , same lofts as ltdx and original darkspeed, why so shocked this year
UA-cam life yo! It's about likes and views. Keep people watching, or something.
I'd be curious to see Rick do a comparison between his own irons and a super game improvement/distance iron like this when it comes to accuracy at certain distances. For example, what would he actually hit more greens at from 200 yards? His own 5 iron or a distance 7 iron? What about from 170 yards? His own 7 iron or a distance 9 iron? I can't help but wonder if the shorter shaft and more forgiving head would actually lead to better dispersion when compared for distance (not club number).
I agree do good players actually golf better these days in normal courses with blades than with more “game improvement irons? Does a scratch to 10 handicapper actually hit more greens with blades?
I bet he would hit more greens from the longer yardages these clubs provide. Shorter length clubs are always easier to hit. 😅
Definitely agree…I have more confidence over my 7!
Brilliant analogy! I am guessing Rick may not test that. But there are other more progressive UA-camrs who might? I love your thinking!
Couldn't agree more... the ONLY reason a club level golfer should play a forged blade, is if they want to work the ball with shape and have the ability to. If you just hit it straight at the pin each time..play more cavity. These club feel and sound amazing, nothing like the hollow game improvement irons of the past
But what was the descent angle for each club? If a descent angle is high enough it can compensate for lower spin.
height more than makes up for spin. In his own video he hits a 7 iron 200 in the air and it stops 204. What club in any make or model is going to stop quickr than that from 200 yards.
Absolutely...and most players that need these types of clubs, swing over the top with an open clubface and add dynamic loft.
You hit these clubs perfectly. They did exactly what they are suppose to do. Height can stop balls as well. The average golfer doesn't hit a lot of backspin anyways. These clubs will help so many golfers. It was clear you were going to find things to hate at start of the video. You could tell without hitting them youd hate on them Lol
He hates anything that would help his game 😂
@ my favorite on the driver review he didn’t even hit the draw bias driver. It’s suppose to be a review 90% of golfers watching need the draw bias club but since it didn’t suit ricks game he didn’t review it. Who are his “reviews” for the golfer watching or him? I use to enjoy Rick but over time he’s gotten this god complex like he’s better than everyone. He’s like a kid with a defiance disorder that will always do the opposite. It’s why he can’t break 80 anymore. He won’t take advice and refuses to use clubs to fit his game.
If you consider that a 7-iron has approximately the loft of a 5-iron in more traditional clubs, a spin rate of 4915 is not bad, especially with Rick's draw. Many golfers would have to end their set with a 6 iron. Most would not get along with a 21-degree 5 iron.
My 3 iron is 23 degrees...
I've just done this with my new Callaway AI smoke HL irons. My old 7i was 35⁰ and my new 7i is 30⁰. Works out that my new clubs a are nearly exactly 1 club stronger. I used to go from 5-PW now I have 6-AW. Still the same amount of irons just the number on the bottom has changed 1 club.
I just checked my Cobra King Speedzone OL irons. The 7i off-the-rack was 27.5 degrees.
So, agreed that these are insanely more aggressive than historical norms, but it sounds like these are consistent with what Cobra has been putting out there in the 2020s.
Good review and callout on spin rates.
Yeah Cobra LTDx 7 iron is 26.5 degrees and that's from 2022, so not like they're doing anything out of character.
People keep refering tk traditional lofts like it matters. As drivers and 3 woods go further, irons have to go further to fill in the gaps. Due to new technology they are able to lower the lofts of irons while still making them easy to hit.
you got it. Too bad so many people are stuck on the loft # and not the ball flight.
If I have a 175 yard shot I use a 175 yard club what’s written
On the club is irrelevant
Correct
Video idea. How does a 27 degree iron from today compare to a 27 degree iron from 27 years ago?
Never haven’t watched till the end of a Rick video before. But when half the video is about loft and distance, it’s not helpful. Hit your gamer iron from 150 yards. Then hit whatever iron in this set goes 150 yards. Doesn’t matter what the static loft or number on the irons is. Which one performed better?
Would a beginner do better hitting a traditional 7 iron from 150 or a modern 9 iron?
That’s all that matters. Comparing and talking about traditional 7 iron vs modern 7 iron is pointless in my opinion.
It’s the norm because guys out there shooting 97 wanna say they hit their 7i 190 yards. It markets to ego and it works.
Sad but too true. But anyone any good playing with someone shooting 97 knows they don’t hit a real 7 iron 190. Those same people claiming that would hit a 3 wood 200….useless for gapping
It’s not ego for me. It’s that shorter irons are generally easier to hit so I can bag more “hittable” clubs
I’m in my 50s and my swing speed is slowing daily. So I would likely hit that 7i about the same as I hit my old school 7i.
@@charlieg9559 I’m also in my 50s, but I still prefer nearly standard lofts. These sets always fail on one end or the other. You either end up with 11 wedges, or 11 hybrids
I miss the high-mid handicap guy you use to have test clubs. It was even fun hearing his handicap go down.
I was in a big box store and was hitting a Srixon zx5 mk2. I was carrying the 7 iron 192/195 rolling out to 205/212. The sales guy said look at that. I smiled and told him that's not what I'm looking for in an iron. Told him to have a great day and walked out.
Cool story
OMG same but i was hitting the pw 189 Carry,told him to stick them where the sun don't shine i hit my traditional lofted pw 195(carry, total distance 225!!!)
We are something else aren't we?
And then you had to tell the world. Congrats
Can you sign my glove please
The lack of knowledge here about how modern irons work is unbelievable. These lower lofted irons fly higher than older 7 irons that are higher lofted due to weighting, design and faster ball speeds. If todays lower lofted iron goes further and higher than older irons then to replicate the same distance of the older 7 irons you would hit an 8 or a 9 in todays irons. The test is to use both older and newer irons to hit a specific distance. Once you have that specific distance look at flight of each ball not the loft.
Exactly right. I look forward to when Rick and others including fitters finally understand that.
Then how many wedges do you need?
@colinbrown1321 however many it takes to give you what you need. Same amount of clubs. As the newer irons are so much longer you don't need as many on the other end. Companies aren't going to restrict technology just because someone doesn't want to reconfigure their wedges. Nothing has changed. You still have a bag of clubs that hits balls specific distances. You just pull the club you need for that distance. The benefit is that you can now cover longer distances with greater height that helps stop the ball.
My Tec x cobra from 3 years ago have the same loft. 7 iron goes 150 yds for me. #confused here
It's total nonsense, don't drink the cool aid. There are no magic beans 'tech' built in. Its just a 5i with 7i written on it
It’s not a 7 iron! It’s a 5 iron!
Funny to hear people saying now…because that 5 iron you’re likely comparing it to is actually a 2 iron
No incorrect
Thing is, a set like this isn't really designed for a player in the single figures. Put this in the hands of a slower swing-speed player who struggles to hit their 7i 140yds and it'll be perfect for them! Might get them up to 150yds instead.
Have u seen brysons lofts??
The loft is irrelevant and you dont half bang on about it in every video.
Peak height, descent angles, stopping power far more important.
I love Cobra products, use a King F6 driver and F max superlite irons at the moment. The irons are really light so I'd love something like these when they are cheaper
2016 F6 had cobra going straight to the top. Ever since the F9 peaked as the greatest ever , it’s been mediocre jacked lofted irons
I wonder if they factored in that higher handicap players tend to deloft during their swing. Like dynamically, I’d like to see what kind of numbers a high handicapper gets.
They 100% did. Rick 100% did not
Funny thing in the video that you were hitting them here they weren’t rolling out and having problems stopping. They were performing absolutely awesome, you would likely benefit from having the regular adapt set in your own bag. Can’t be anything wrong with the club if it’s so easy as you say to hit, and does the job without any effort let’s make this game easier rather than trying to be a hero hitting hard to hit clubs and getting miracle shots I mean disappointed when they don’t work out. Golf is hard enough as it is.
Also, Cobra dark speed irons from last year (that you reviewed) were the same lofts.. why are you surprised Rick?
The problem is that the more it goes, the less options some of us have for standard loft irons without having to go to pure blades....
Would be good to see you swing at a lower club head speed as that’s who the clubs will be aimed at.
I play the Corba King MIM Tour irons from 2021 and the 7 iron is 33 degrees and carry on a full swing 180 yards on a normal 75 degree no wind day. Love cobra clubs, LTD x driver, MIM Wedges and Supernova putter. LTD 4 Hybrid.
This is not the place to come for club reviews. Low spin isn’t an issue if the decent angle is steep. Talk more about that. And the first 2 shots perfectly explained why the lofts are strong, to help get distance on mis hits
How is this unique?
My 3 year old Wilson D9 7-iron is 27°
My three year old Callaway Mavrik seven iron is 27 degrees also???
My Wilson Dynapower 7i also 27°
the callaway rogue x 7-iron from 2018 has 27 degrees of loft
My stealth 7 iron is 28 degrees
Thanks for the review, Rick. These clubs are designed for a certain type of golfer-slow swing speed, golfers who need some help with elevation and distance and perhaps geared towards a beginner or a more senior golfer. These clubs make the game easier for a large part of the golfing world. Nothing wrong with that.
In starting to think Rick shouldn’t review clubs especially when he’s potentially misleading a large audience
Rick, please play a full round with these clubs, including the Cobra drivers. That would be cool.
How does it compare to your current 200 yard club?
I play a 35 degree 7 this is my 5 iron that’s nuts!
35 is the other extreme. I'd say 30-32 is normal
The problem with your statement is you’re the exception and not the norm. The majority of golfers play less than once a month. They need irons like these for 2 reasons, 1st these launch a lot easier due to the lower center of gravity and the mass of the iron. Second they are ultra forgiving. You have to think the quality of your strike vs the typical monthly golf is absurdly massive! People shouldn’t take the game so seriously. We’re all different and no reason why we all need to play the same equipment. Signed a 9 handicapper playing Game Improvement 30 degree 7 iron loft! I don’t ever compete nor do I intend too. Golf is a relaxation method for me, and I play twice a week.
@@DMKFACTOR it’s just a ego thing playing these irons either means more wedges or big gaps at the bottom of the bag they strong lofts are just a marketing tactic to make said golfer who doesn’t play as much to think the club goes miles when really its because that 7 iron isn’t 6-5 with 7 stamped on it
@ Exactly! Who cares, just know how far you hit each club, and make the game as fun and easy as possible!
You've given Cobra a bit of a beating this last few days Rick! The thing is, if you want to hit further, decrease the loft, or have muscles like Rory and Bryson. I struggle to keep higher lofted clubs on the straight and narrow sometimes and won't look at these as a future option. Looking forward to hearing what you have to say about the other new ones coming on the market. Keep them coming. 👏👏
I'm sure Rick is presenting less dynamic loft than the average person these clubs are made for
How rick can never show peak height and decent angle is beyond me
I don't want hybrids. These look very easy to hit and very playable.
Coming from a certified fitter.. these feel amazing and get a ton of distance. But they don’t get a ton of spin.. so it’s hard to keep them on the greens
But he was holding a green pretty easily at 200? What are launch and decent angles like?
@ when you hit a shot with a 7 iron, if the shaft and head specs are correctly fitted to you that ball should hit the green and roll no more than 2 yards forward. Ideally If it can hit then just stop that’s what we want. Rpm’s off spin is what does that for us UNLESS we have an extremely high peak height, or crazy decent angle. It looks like Rick can hit a ball pretty high so he’s sort of able to hold the greens but even he is getting about 5 yards of rollout which is way too much (in my opinion) for a 7 to roll out. You just can’t be as accurate with that much.
@ you are worrying too much about the arbitrary number stamped on the club. Ignore that. To say a ball rolling out 5 yards on a 200+ yard shot is “too much” is just ridiculous and far from reality for most. The real comparison is what club of his does he hit that distance and what rollout does that club get? The number 7 should be irrelevant. It’s at this point just to have a reference to the other clubs in your set
@@pipedown7969 now I totally get what you’re saying with the distances relative to his clubs. But if you give someone a blade, they’re going to hit that ball 40 yards shorter than a super game improvement iron. These Cobras are for someone who only purely wants distance(the older crowd that just runs the ball up to the green).
I fail to see what the issue is. 199 yards carry with a 4 yard roll out. The loft and number on the bottom doesn't mean anything. Can you stop any of your current clubs in less distance at 200 yards? The real test is to pick the club from his bag that he can carry 200 yards and compare the accuracy, height, trajectory and stopping distance with the Cobra 7 iron. Then find the club from each set that carries 210, 220 and 230. Lets see what happens then. Stop focusing on loft.
I bought some cobra Aerojet irons last year, the 7 iron is 26.5 degrees, it seemed like a good idea at the time but it’s hard work
I'd really like to see somone do a video with some of these new strong lofted irons and how it impacts the bottom of their bag ( wedges etc...) with distances from 150 to 100 yards.
It's now apparent that these new clubs are for the poorer ball striker that needs help, not the Rick Shiels of the world. My first "complaint" of the Callaway Rogue X's I got a few years ago was that they were too long. I still feel that way, as I now carry a 50, 56, and 58 degree wedge. I rarely use that 6 or 7 iron. I'm 77 with a 15 handicap.
Hey Rick, remember when you used to cut golf balls in half, to see the tech, what about doing it with clubs...
Go on, you know you want to... We'd absolutely love it... ;)
A better comparison would be the spin rate of a particular distance for each club. For example the spin rate of a 180 yard 7 iron with the cobra and the spin rate of another club that goes 180 yards. I would expect the spin rates wouldn’t be much different.
Why is Rick comparing his 7 iron to this 7 iron? His 5 iron is this 7 iron. Two different clubs entirely and it’s shocked with it being 20 extra yards 🤣 if you treat the cobra 7 iron like a 5 I don’t see the problem
Of all the yt golfer channels, Rickies is the only one I keep coming to
I think we need a 16 degree 7 iron! My old 2 iron was that, problem with these lofts is the wedge gapping, I already use an pw, aw, 50, 54, 58 combo!
Irons should be labeled by their loft.. instead of hitting a 7 iron, you are hitting a 27° iron. This would eliminate brands bringing out stronger irons just so they “go farther”
I've been saying this for years. I'm a 16hcp. My strong pitching wedge goes around 130yards, but a traditional 50degree gap wedge was going 110, and I was getting stuck between clubs so I had to throw in a 48 degree gap wedge as well
With those strong lofts and fairly reasonable price sound like these are classified as game improvement irons.
My Wilson Staff blades from the 70's had a 38* 7 iron. PW was 50*. 3 iron was 24*.
The quality of reviews is really going downhill. You can tell Rick doesn’t actually keep up with golf technology anymore just regurgitating the loft thing repeatedly
Also think something you are missing, given the price of clubs people will be able to carry 6 iron -wedge plus a hybrid/fairway and driver and basically have all yardages covered.
It makes total sense to have a stronger loft iron. Most amatures when they hit 6 or 5 iron struggle. Have a 5 iron the length of a 7 iron, you will probably rip it. Might not be for ever but they make a lot of sense.
My 7 is at 28.5. And 8 32.5. So I’m not really concerned with loft as much as gaping with 6 clubs in the bag going shorter. Back in the day the 6 was my confidence club. Now has been moved to 7 is all.
Yes it's gone too far and it's all about marketing in my opinion plus the fact that modern golf retailers now have launch monitors in their showroom. A lot of casual golfers especially beginners looking for game improvement clubs test mid irons usually a 7 or 6 and get impressed by how far they go without realising why. Back in the day 3 irons were the norm in a set and pitching wedges were 50-51 degrees that were actually used for pitch shots that are now the domain of gap and 'approach' wedges.
I myself felt confused when I tested a game improvement 7 iron and averaged 165 meters which was 20 meters longer than I was used to but the set stopped at the 5 iron, and later a clubfitter later explained to me that the lofts were completely different. That was back in 2017, needless to say I bought a traditionally lofted set of irons from him. Now in 2024 the lofts are even stronger! My current 7 iron is 34, 4 iron is 23 and pitiching is 47 degrees and I'm not buying a strong lofted set anytime soon despite being in my 60s.
It would be interesting to see you (and other testers) bring a mid or high handicapper in when testing forgiveness irons. But that would be a lot more work as you'd need to run through a lot more shots to get a real average from us guys.
Love the reviews!
Absolutely shocking that the 7 iron is 25 degrees. Soon the 7 iron is going to be a driving iron 🤦♂️
I have been looking to upgrade my irons that are 15 years old, but it’s a 34 deg 7 iron. Really hard to gauge a 7 iron when that’s my 5 iron 🤷🏻♂️
Rick does this same 'bit' every single year when he reviews cobra irons. Like he's pretending to be shocked at the loft of a 7, but that's been the same case for cobra (and honestly most game improvement irons) for years.
Playing dumb to have a talking point that the actual audience for clubs like this and then beating it into the ground is a waste of everyone's time.
I could see people carrying maybe more 7-PW sets with these stronger lofts, and more fw woods or hybrids.
These are game/super game improvement irons designed for beginners and 20+ hcp that need all the help they can get. But these lofts are getting out of hand. I’m a 9 hcp and play 718 AP2s where the 7 iron is 34 deg. I’m looking to upgrade to T150s which are 2 deg stronger through the bag. The big issue with stronger lifts is gapping down the bottom end of the bag. If a PW is 43 deg you really start needing 5 wedges to have consistent gapping. That and you have to redo all your yardages. I know my 7 iron is a 150m carry and I’m +/- 10m through my irons.
With the Max club and all the offset. It would seem if you use that club with a larger grip. it would help you hit the ball much straighter
Very thorough analysis
Most of the reviewers keep missing the point over and over again every year. These are designed for slower swing speed players. There are players out there who need these kinds of iron lofts in order to fill all the distance gaps. Quit worry about what a 7 iron loft "should be". No one should care about that as long as they hit the proper distances needed. I play the Cobra Radspeed irons (27.5 deg 7 iron) and they are great. I currently go driver 5w 7w 4hyb then 5 iron. If I play something of "more standard" loft I'd need at least another hybrid if not two more to fill the gaps up top which means I'd have to pull out a wedge or two.
Depends on what "traditional" refers to, back in the nineties/early 2000's almost all 7 irons had 36 degrees of loft, 8 irons were 40 and so forth. Go back further and and we'd find even more loft per iron. Having played numerous sets back in the 90's those lofts matched up well, also considering the limited shaft options compared to today. I could never see bending my '97 taylormade burner tour
7 iron down much lower than 36° as the trajectory was already "penetrating ", helped by stiff Precision rifle shaft. The 5 iron in that set had nearly 29 degrees of loft and could be a handful of trouble on an off day, lol! Thirty eight inches of "flush it or else!"
New irons with strong lofts are a different design altogether, with the so called traditional lofts you'd be hitting that 7 iron a mile up in the air. These hollow head low center of gravity and even more tech irons actually require less loft. Fun video, Rick!
What’s a Ron?
Rick is showing his age with these reviews... lol. For the bloke that hits his driver 220 yards, why would you not want the stronger lofts on the 7-p, they aren't able to hit a 6 iron and higher. Also after his video with Bryson he is all about speed training and hitting the ball farther. If you can do it with technology, why not?
You hit those so well I dont know why there not going straight in your bag
Be interesting to see this type of club with proper lofts. Put the 7 iron to 34 degrees and I'm sure it will go normal distance and spin around 7000rpm just like any other 34 degree 7 iron. In theory it they would go normal distances with normal spin but be easy to hit . Worth a try.
Does the strong launch angle help keep the ball from going too high? If the club increases the launch, it might be too high at 30 degrees or more.
27ish degrees is industry standard for game improvement at this point.
The people that these are designed for probably shouldn’t have a 7 iron in the bag at this loft… by 27 degrees loft they should be in hybrids and fairway woods.
Good thing you can order the specific clubs you want and you can fill in gaps with other clubs.
They'd gone too far when the need for a gap wedge arose.
A 7 iron should be 40°.
(The Callaway Epic Forged was 27° in 2019, 5 years ago.)
Can you play the Max Irons on a course vlog? Maybe 9 holes and see what you shoot? Get the distances before hand, but I'd be curious what you do with them.
I personally think you shouldn’t hit all 7 irons. Just hit the club that’s 33-37ish in loft for comparisons. Don’t let the numbers dictate
I remember when I bought the TaylorMade sim irons. The 7 iron on that was 27degrees
The problem with this idea is when you get to the 5 or 4 Iron. They are lofted down so low, the average golfer is unable to launch it correctly.
It’d be interesting to see these irons paired with a spiny tour ball? ProV1s are pretty low spin in the irons.
Them rons look ridiculous 😂😂
Rick should definitely compare them with a players 34 degree 7 iron to compare spin and descent angle, forget distance.
I think strong lofted clubs have had these lofts for quite some time. I know my son´s Callaway Mavrik 22 have the same lofts. 7i is 27, PW 41. But it really does not matter as long as you have the clubs that cover each distance you need, I guess.
I think irons should go the way of wedges. Forget stamping the '7' or whatever. Just put the loft on the bottom.
I think lofts don't really care on irons, let me explain. I think in order to give an iron a certain number, you have to match launch and spin. So a 7 iron should launch at 20-25 and have 6000-7000. Whatever loft you need to achieve those numbers would be your 7 iron.
Your fixation about how strong irons are makes no sense. Who cares about the number? Its the loft that matters and how long it goes. Bryson must have proven this by now.
In the Ds adapt max set the PW has 11.5 degrees difference to the SW, to put that into perspective that difference is the same as my 9 iron to my 56 degree wedge, all this loft jacking means you will have to buy lots of specialty wedges for gapping and beginners players will definitely not do that. Just start putting lofts on the club problem solved
Lots of hate in the comments, sorry guys but loft angle absolutely matters, as do other factors like material, weight, etc. Just for grins, here is a list of Cobra's 7-iron loft angles for the past 30 years. I think it makes sense for the PGA to standardize loft angles, the changes are getting a bit silly. For reference, 2024 PGA tour average carry for a 7-iron is 145-165 yards.
Year Model 7-Iron Loft
1994 King Cobra Oversize 37°
1996 King Cobra II Oversize 37°
1999 Gravity Back 36°
2000 CXI Men's 36°
2002 King Cobra SS Oversize 36°
2004 King Cobra 3400 I/XH 34°
2006 King Cobra FP 33°
2008 King Cobra S9 32°
2011 S3 Irons 30°
2013 AMP Cell Irons 30°
2015 Fly-Z Irons 30°
2017 King F7 Irons 30.5°
2018 King F8 Irons 29.5°
2019 King F9 Speedback Irons 29.5°
2020 King SpeedZone Irons 27.5°
2021 RADSPEED Irons 26.5°
2022 LTDx Irons 26.5°
2023 Aerojet Irons 26.5°
It literally doesn't. You just need to have every distance that matters to you gapped and covered with a club you like. Maybe instead of a 7 iron going 170, now your 8 iron goes 170. Then you just get an extra wedge for the bottom of the bag gapping. Having a club for each distance is what matters, not the number stamped on the bottom
I get where you are coming from. But the issue is around standards. I’m new to the game, still learning how to hit and figure out my distances. If someone hits their 7i 130, while someone else hits it 170, that becomes my expectation. If the number on the club doesn’t matter, why don’t we just standardize clubs by listing loft instead of number? I started learning on a 25 year old set of Cleveland irons. When I tried out some newer irons I was getting 20 more yards per iron. I attributed it to “newer technology/materials”, then learned when I got home that the loft on the newer used clubs I just bought was 6° different. I made the mistake of thinking there were standards that i could base my results upon.
@YoPaulieMusic we do for some clubs like wedges, driver, woods, and even hybrids. Irons are actually the one club that doesn't really place lofts. There is no such thing as "standard" for golf. There are different tees for different skill levels. There are different shafts for swing speeds. There are a TON of iron options depending on swing speed, launch angle, skill level, ball striking. If you are new and you're trying to compare yourself and your distances to people that swing faster and different than you, then you are going to spend more time frustrated than anything. The only thing that matters is that you have a club that hits the distance that you need, not the number on the bottom. Once you realize that, then the game is much more simple.
Loft matter but so does cg and launch angle… he was hitting a green 200 yards away and not getting a ton of rollout… you can’t sit and say it’s just loft differences making this happen
@@pipedown7969 I didn't say that it was just loft. I specifically said "loft angle absolutely matters, as do other factors like material, weight, etc." Please pay attention.
Rick, show us where you ACTUALLY struck it on the face...impact tape?...Dr Scholl's?..
Peak height? Descent angle?
Good looking irons .
DeChambeau 7i is 25°. Who cares what the loft is? Does it go the distance you want? Does it stop how you want it to? That's what matters. My 7i is 34°, carries 155-160, and holds any green I can hit. Different swings/speeds have different needs.
It’s a just a race to say you have the longest irons. For strong players who have good deliveries these are no good, but for “ scoopers” or those who lack forward lean these work. That said slower swingers want distance, these may launch too low. Also you likely play down to only a 6 or 7 iron, so you can buy more woods and wedges.
Rick you should take a set of these on course, play 18 and see how they go...
Manufacturers have gone nuts with these type of lofts.
Not much difference in loft to the ltdx or the darkspeed
Ltdx 5 iron is 20.5,
7 iron is 26.5
Darkspeed 5 iron is 21
7 iron is 27
So no stronger than cobra have been for a few years
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I think Rick would hit a Lazrus 32 degree 7 hybrid over 200 yards without breaking a sweat.
The gap between the PW and normal wedges will be crazy. Will need to compensate and get like 6 wedges
Or you just change the gap of the wedges… instead of 52,56,60 you go 50,55,60…, 🤯crazy concept to comprehend I know
What I would like to see Rick is a strong lofted 7 vs a standard 5. I have relatively strong lofted irons with a 31 degree 7 and I honestly feel more confident over top of a 180-190 yard shot with a 7 in my hands then the 5. I don’t know if it is actually shown to be more accurate or not.
To add to that…I know you like technology that makes golf easier…to a new golfer, does a strong lofted club like this make it easier? My son plays even stronger lofted clubs than mine and I honestly love hitting them too! Just nice and easy to get the extra distance.
Again, I’ve seen this in your videos about spin rate vs other 7 irons…I think you are comparing apples to oranges…please do a comparison video of strong lofted clubs vs standard (7 vs 5…spin, accuracy and feel). It seemed as though you hit them well…I have the same feeling with mine.
Also keep an eye on launch angles
Are the companies that are strengthening the loft on their irons maybe future proofing for the new golf ball rollback?
At this point, Rick just needs to start aiming the ball 10 yards right of the green, then he could probably win his first green jacket.