Why the Self Help Industry Won't Improve Your Life and How Eastern Spirituality Will
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- In this podcast, we will explore why self-help and motivation doesn't transform ourselves or alleviate psychological problems and how Eastern spirituality actually does create the change we are longing for. In a world suffering from an exponential growth in stress, anxiety, depression, and suicide, many people are turning to self-help and motivational gurus to hopefully pull them out of the darkness. But what we are now seeing after years of confidence in the self-help industry is a suppression of the real spiritual work that is needed to realize true happiness and contentment. That is why many are realizing the pitfalls in the self-help industry and are turning towards Eastern spirituality for a deeper exploration of oneself. So instead of tinkering with your life with self-help to adapt to the social game so that you can become a "successful" player, Eastern spirituality is telling you to give the game up altogether and find out what is fundamentally true within the universe because the game itself is rigged and only leads to suffering.
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“Maybe the journey isn’t so much about becoming anything. Maybe it’s about un-becoming everything that isn’t really you, so you can be who you were meant to be in the first place.”
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Well said. Thanks
The beauty of Taoism.
Thank you
I have been poisoned by the "be famous" virus since 1982. It is indeed a great delusion and so painful... listening to this talk further assures me that taking up meditation, leaving Hollywood and knowing the Dao Te Ching is the healthy direction... your channel is edification, Jason. I am guessing that the lovely girl talking is your wife... thank you both. With love from the UK.
Yes, she is my dear friend. Thank you for sharing your experience. I think we'll all been infected by that virus one time or another in our lives, but thankfully people like yourself recognize the true path and change direction. I deeply appreciate your kind words.
Some self help philosophies falsely teach: become someone of influence to help to make the world a better place. This is still feeding the ego. Be kind to your neighbor now. You don't need to become extraordinary to make an impact. Thank you for helping me on my detox journey. Be blessed everyone 😃
Thrilled to be Ordinary & it is so much easier & peaceful to just Be...
My Ordinary life is extraordinary calm, in gratitude & joy.......great points you two. Wu Wei
Thank you, Holly. Great to hear from you old friend. We appreciate you.
This is true wisdom from two wonderful young people. So many of us have spent several decades of our lives chasing material goals that in the end are nothing but a veil cloaking the true meaning of our existence. Thank you.
"There’s nothing wrong with a life of peace and prosperity. I suggest you think about what it is that you want from your life, and why." -Uncle Iroh
this made me smile we all need an iroh in our lives
Got to love Uncle Iroh!
We must recognize that FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) is the norm; as is always pursuing "this year's model". Rather than being like hamsters on a wheel we can choose to step outside of that mindset. When we live simply and humbly and cultivate equanimity...good comes to us. Just be kind and start with yourself. Thanks guys!
You're the best Cameron/Tobin. Thank you both dearly.
This is GOLD.
I must say treasures like this on UA-cam don't have a whole lot of viewership which reaffirms all you said.
I am living near Rishikesh and have started to delve into all the wisdom now. Thanks Jason and your wife! Keep this up, Joe Rogan has nothing on you 😂.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Lots of wisdom here Jayson. When I was young, rich, middle income and low income could live in same neighborhood. Now neighborhoods are segregated according to income. New age solutions create as much as there supposed to solve. "Manifest abundance, manifest money". The solutions create as much stress as the problems. The virus changed things temporarily at least. All of a sudden, low income jobs that were looked down upon, became the "essential workers". Thanks Brother.
Thank you, John. I bet you have witnessed a big transformation of society over the years. You are right on as usual my brother.
Simplicity is the purest form of living life. Sending my healing energies to all human beings.🙏🏻🤍✨ from Philippines 🇵🇭 thanks for sharing this, made my heart and soul happy. 😊
That is wonderful to hear my friend. All the best to you.
Reading the drop down with the title is enough to garner a like for the talk. Seeing the "game" is rigged is the ultimate truth.
I like Eastern Spirituality as it reminds me of Stoicism. No religion, just a way to strengthen your spirit and mind.
Wow! Excellent analysis. I can relate because I’ve been dealing with depression for years. None of the “self-help” stuff worked. But switching to mindfulness meditation and studying Taoism (your videos have been great) and Buddhism has helped me make HUGE strides in my life. Many thanks and keep up the good work.
Thank you, William. I'm so glad you enjoyed it brother. Best to you my friend.
I wish I could give a 1000 likes to this video. Brilliant conversation and so illuminating. Thank you.
Thank you Aatif. I appreciate the support my friend.
May your message spread! 🙏
I'm glad I didn't go down the road of self-improvement too far, and I have you guys to thank.
This reminds me of the way Zen masters (among others) will tell anyone knocking on their doors 🚪 that they don’t have what that person is looking for… that self-improvement thing the persona thinks will satisfy, which is just a bottomless pit that the mind plays as a trick on itself to actually keep itself busy proving that it’s an individual identity.
I'm watching this right now and I had to stop and write this, everything you're saying making so much sense to me.
I also see in my life, how I don't really have any "goals", and actually, I even find MORE beauty and charm in the ordinary life, something about it seem more exciting, like a never-ending adventure of spontaneity.
I despise this you-have-to-work-hard mentality which if you don't follow then you're being looked down upon.
Your video gave me great calm. I've been on a path of reversal since over 3 years now. I almost went insane reading the wrong books leading me in a direction where I can achieve anything. Yet I noticed the discrepancy of decreasing happiness and increasing restlessness going down that path.The right books found me and I'm so grateful for finding that path before it's (almost) too late. I don't own much now. I put down my high ambitions and I still do what I love which is music in my case. Yet still trying to find the right balance between doing what gives me joy without falling back into the trap of wanting to be someone special and the feeling of lack that comes with it.
Appreciate your content.
That is music to my ears. Beautifully said my friend. I appreciate you and I'm grateful to have you with me on this channel.
It's so great to hear you two have an intelligent conversation. So rare in the world. My favorite self help book is Wayne Dyer's book on Laotse. Apparently he read the Daodejing and it changed his life so he wrote a self help commentary on each chapter that ends with the call to action, "Do the Tao now." People find a way to fit things into their own frame. I saw there was a YT channel called "The Outcome Zen".
Thanks for being here and saying this.
You'll never have enough of what you don't really need.
I loved this. Lead a simple life of contentment.
This is a life changing message. Every thing you both have said, is so true! I am stuck in the world of winners or losers. I don't know how to get out, it affects my whole life.
Yes, the winner loser thing is exhausting my friend. We are stoked you enjoyed this particular podcast.
Very profound, we discourage the reality of the dance that unfolds seemingly endlessly inorder to hang on to the fragmented perspective of winners & losers. Thank you once again for the nugget.
My internet is not working properly and you guys video gives me the breath of life.
This video should be on the school curriculum, a college/university curriculum and shared within the work place. Profound discussion with a deep dive into where our society is failing. I love my simple hermit life, alone, however, not lonely and the celebrities in my world, are the people who can save other people's lives, as in Doctors, who perform life saving operations, volunteer doctors who correct eyesight for the poor in their spare time, etc.. Thank you! Namaste, love & light!
Hello Jason! Long time subscriber and viewer here, I just wanted to say thank you for all the deeply moving content. You are such a grounding force in my life. I always turn to eastern spirituality and ancient teachings when I’m taking ‘myself’ too seriously. Being able to absorb the information of people with more life experience embodying these teachings so well is very inspiring. As a young person the world seems to ask so much of me but when I turn back to myself I remember what’s true :) Thanks again my friend.
“Most of the successful people in Hollywood are failures as human beings.”
- Marlon Brando
My philosophy is “know when you have enough”. And you don’t need much. Choose a very few favorite things and watch the fear disappear from your life. Once you’re not feeling afraid of losing everything that actually you don’t need, life is wonderful.
Hi Jason, thanks for uploading these videos. They brought a sense of calm and inner peace that I have been seeking for a long time. Just subscribed.
One of the best podcasts I've EVER watched. Wish I had watched this when I was in my 20s
Thank you so much, Vishal.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor honestly these uploads are some of the peaceful thought provoking content I've seen. At a time when it seems like the world is falling apart with corrupts corporations and governments, your videos helps elevate people's thinking beyond anything this planet alone can offer. It's almost limitless in a a world which wants to trap everyone. I hope you do a collaboration with Einzelganger one day
1:02:20 I love what you said there.
Everyone dies eventually.
Very insightful message. Thank you so much Jason. I love all your videos.
Thank you my friend. I appreciate your support.
Appreciate Gayoung’s clear articulation; she has a wonderful way of consistently cutting directly to the insight
Thank you for this, all of it 🙏
I love this!!! Thank you. I'm beginning to appreciate the ordinary..wowwww!! Took me so long to realize this.thank you guys!! Sending you love and appreciation!!! 😊
Thank you dearly, Jan. So glad you enjoyed.
Thank you for this gem of a video.
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you! 💚🙏
Thank you for this conversation. 🙏🏾
At this stage, you are to the world as the lotus blossom is
to the mud pond. Though it has grown from the mud pond, it
is yet untouched by the mud. In terms of material possessions,
have and have not are no longer so different; they look more
the same to you. You are in the world, but you also transcend
the world. At this stage, your state of mind regarding material
success is that of satisfied dissatisfaction. You will challenge
your limitations for the pure joy of challenge, for continued
expansion is the natural expression of your own divinity. - Thick Face Black Heart Lee Zhong Chang
I love your videos Jason!!
Thank you, Jessica. I'm grateful to have you with me. Much love to you my friend.
Yeah - renunciation = freedom. SH movement focuses on outside/ego. No inner long term transformation. SH reinforces phony social conditioning - as you say winners/winning (bs yang Western way of "keeping in the game"). Simple, peaceful, happy, unnoticed, ordinary & grateful life rocks! Being a free floating plastic bag. Social conditioning materialistic "matrix" sucks. Thanks guys! Bernardo
I love it Bernardo. Thank you my brother.
the biggest irony is before the video began there was a tony robbins self help ad lol
Another great video, well done and thank you for shearing
You're welcome my friend. Thank you for watching.
I absolutely loved this podcast. Thank you on so many levels !
So glad you enjoyed it, Jordan. Thank you my friend.
I realized this and dropped out of the "game" long ago....very inciteful....
Amazing discussion!!!
Thank you so much for this. It's a message that SO many people need to hear, especially in the U.S.
most of the "self help" people need alot of help themselves..
"Self improvement is maturation..
The things you own end up owning you." -- Tyler Durden.
Mark Mason is the only self-help guy/author that's worth anything, because he tells you straight out that self-help is BS.
Thank you Jason. This video has been very beneficial to me. 🙏🏽✨❤️📿
That's great to hear brother. I appreciate you.
Another inspiring podcast, thanks to both of you 🙏🏼 Would greatly appreciate if one day you share about relationships, from a simple living perspective and also about you're own experience as a couple. Most of us westerners are little lost around this topic but I feel total renunciation can also be a trap since it can lead to repressing and denying where I truly am as a human with still some desires and "hopes" around that. Anyway, thanks again for the good work 👍🏼☺️
Thank you, Clem. I always appreciate hearing from you. That is a good idea. We may explore that.
thank you so much i forgot to just love myself my heart is so lighter again.
great work, i love your podcast❤️
It is always such a pleasure listening to you guys!🙏 Being ordinary and a "loser" is the best thing in the world! How more we let go or "lose things" how better we feel inside. Too pity how our society still promotes how to become successful, rich and "extraordinary", having more and more material things or to become somehow successful so that we will not be seen as "a loser". How poisoning is that! it makes me really sad to see that there are so many especially young people trying to match up to that "ideal".. :(
There is nothing wrong to do something "extraordinary" if we are truly passionate about it and if it comes from our own intrinsic self. But is also nothing wrong with doing just "ordinary" things and being a kind and com-passionate human being. Sending warm greetings
Well said Sanja. It is always a pleasure to read your wonderful comments. Much love my friend.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor thank you so much for your kind words Jason & you are always welcome!🙏
Very good. Thanks for your work. 😊
Thank you, Gavin.
i love u guys may god bless u...........if there is such a thing
I listen to these repeatedly, this one is my favorite
That's awesome, Eric. Great to hear from you.
Listening again, It’s important to come back to this one to counter act what I have been brainwashed to believe
Namaste!
Eastern philosophy states that the solution is inside, not outside. What's inside is a common experience of the life force. This is equal. What's outside is an ego-based experience that seems divergent, different and confusing. This is unequal. High achievement as a goal accentuates this outside. High achievement as a process accentuates the inside. We need to focus and find solutions inside. We lost the keys inside but look for it under the street lamp. First comment :)
There is more light under the street lamps 🤭. In my culture there is a saying... "never attempt to wake up babies... or people".
Very insightful
Thank you, Nathalie.
I love this thoughtful talk. Perhaps I would argue that self-improvement is merely a western attitude toward providing an effective koan.
It pushes you relentlessly until either the world breaks, or you do. Perhaps there is something exceptional under the surface. Something worth the sacrifice of digging it up. Perhaps not. You and the world benefit either way. As long as you don't get stuck in self-improvement purgatory along the way. Of course the spiritual path has many trappings along the way also.
Jim Rohn always said that success has nothing to do with what you get from the pursuit but rather who you become along the way. We're ultimately faced time and again with the reality that no acquisition can or will ever provide what we're looking for. There really seems to be only that one message, regardless of where we look. Neti, neti as I've heard it said.
Seems they didn't dig what you had to say there, bro. That's kids for ya. They'll grow up ;-)
I love this ❤️
Thank you, William.
Are you guys talking about Tony Robbins seminar’s ?? I get the feeling you are lolz 😂 because your absolutely right !
very astute observation about the self help indu$try which subtely stokes lack as opposed to eastern spiritual tradition which shows one what they have.
Jason I don’t use Amazon, can I buy your books elsewhere? Thank you
Yes, you can Scott. My book is on all online stores. Book Depository, Barnes and Noble, etc. You could even get them direction from my publisher www.innertraditions.com/ Thank you for the wonderful support my friend.
Jason Gregory great! Thank you so much. 💚🙏
Great discussion! I would love to hear s discussion about how to live with people who are deluded in materialism, narcissism, and low self esteem. Would you be able to provide some words on that? Thank you again.
Let them be themselves and you do you, my 2 cents
@@TheBucklandgrp what if they are trying to shove their understanding of life down your throat. What then ?
The comment about getting a Lamborghini to get love was well played.
I started out fasting and live foods...ive been enlightened for years...I need like minded friends...
Society demanding that "you have a role" is not separate from "the role"; rather, an aspect of it.
As a Dane (who enjoys your content thoroughly) I just want to tell you that Danes are very much obsessed with fame, fortune and workaholism. No different from the states. If anything most Danes strive to live “the American way”.
We do have the welfare system that picks up the “losers of the game” but trust me, being on welfare is extremely frowned upon here and a very undesirably position to be in for most.
Well that is for sure my friend. But the point is the system takes care of the general populace better than other countries. I know this too, as my background is Danish. So welcome my friend.
It’s called the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it. - George Carlin
I think Sasaki Roshi said, "Success is Illusion... Loss, enlightenment.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having big goals and pursuing them, the difference lays on the reason why you do it. Having inspiring objectives in life, without wanting to be more than others, without attachment to “wining”... that is for me the sweet spot.
I've been fascinated by spirituality for 45 years, had back pain for 35 years, I met the knowledge of John Sarno on social media, in 2 weeks I was pain free, I am stil 5 years later, at 65 I do Rollerblade
With 2 disc hernias
From experience poverty is a bigger burden than trying for achievement. Maybe the middle ground is the ideal place.
I'm American, and it's taken a few years to convince people not to give me stuff for Christmas. At first I worried that I was being rude, or ungrateful. But after some practice it's become much easier to say, "I don't need anything, no gifts please." It helps to point out that the holiday has become too commercialized for my tastes. Chris Rock summed it up nicely: vimeo.com/150086254
1:04:14 ...to accomplish... a means to an end.... Enjoyment is a lost part of our comfort zone. We 'put up' too too much. This becomes our everyday life we get 'used to. like tRump said years back... "they'll get used to it."
I think Joe was talking very simply. Go for a walk, clean your room, physically move, stuff like this. I don’t think he was talking about anything more than that.
Psychologists will, of course, see spirituality as a subset of psychology, but the truth is the other way round. Psychology is a very small subset of who we really are, and the closer we come to revealing the truth about ourselves, the less significant psychology becomes.
Look at the trees how they sway in the wind and learn how to dance with the tides of existence.....or you can watch your dog.
06:31 the message is: false hope.
False hope is worse than no hope.
15:41 "Only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. As a man, you are only loved iunder the condition you provide resources. "
-Chris Rock
Who is the guru Jason is referring to though?
Jason,I have a doubt and question to ask you regarding Natural state ,Do Aboriginal people who live isolated deep in the forest from cultured,civilized,human being, Without knowing if modern civilized society exist or not,Are they in natural state as they have nothing to own ,no need of self ,What do you think about it, have you heard about it anywhere
There is a view that these aboriginal people (eg. The native Indian people in the US) are actually more evolved and enlightened human beings than the rest of us in modern society. You can check out the book "Conversations with God - Volume 3" to explore this view.
Confucianism is not about achieving social status but becoming a decent moral person
You have to become comfortable with being uncomfortable in a way. Otherwise you will stuck in a loop of resistance.
Somebody should have told Charlie Sheen that, you win by not needing to win.
About the raising a kid who doesn’t want to be famous or what not; adding a bit of complication: the kid may enjoy praise for doing something good. The kid may just enjoy the praise which carries to adulthood. Not praising your kid on their accomplishments also is not the answer it seems. Thinking out loud here 🤔
Bottom line it's all about the money! Always, the one thing in life that never changes!
Do you talk about Self esteem? Self improvement books does. I am your follower and I really admire your work but I think that is not only the Self help books to blame but the businesses way of Marketing ...Hollywood movies... Magazines.. Etc
Thank you 😊
💯 but it’s all part of the same machinery imo 🙏
Life is about paying bills, taxes, fines, punishment and reward in the matrix!
I'm watching this video in 2022 The money making world is at war now!! Stupidity is out of control!
I don't even have to watch t his to get it.
But like Krishnamurti said, why are u look for an answer
is this orange vs green spiral dynamics discussion?
It has nothing to do with spiral dynamics. It is pretty self explanatory what it is about and the title of the video explains it.
@@JasonGregoryAuthor but what you are describing is the orange spiral dynamics self help characteristics, but which point of view you are describing from? the green spiral dynamics? or the turquise spiral dynamics? and the lady mention about India, i think the common regular poor Indian are blue stage , but some are wanting to the orange stage
What the hell are you talking about? Don't superimpose your ideology on Eastern thought. That is a beginner stage of spirituality. You have to overcome your perception, it is clouded with biases and conditioning. Also, what do you mean by "poor Indian"? Why are you belittling Indian people? Your type of immaturity is not allowed on my channel. Good bye.
I agree with you but to be honest 99.9% of people are actually living in an extraordinary time and living extraordinary lives.
The real winners are not those who are deemed the "Winners"
The so called "losers " are full of Extraordinary True Winners
It's funny how I'm about to pay the car insurance and a bit irritated about it, when I saw this...
Never enough, tread mill to being still empty. World-wide matrix now. Not just spoiled west.
I wouldn’t bag on America. To many people it’s the land of opportunity from the countries they have left. And America allows everyone and anyone who immigrates legally to try their luck at a better life.