I self diagnosed many decades ago but never understood how devastatingly and destructive it was to my life. Through Menopause in and my wotld came crashing down. Took 53 years to get diagnosed with Autism, ADHD. Dyscalcula, Dyspraxia and Ehlers Danlos. New life, medicated and self validated. These diagnoses have helped me massively to process past trauma from not being supported or believed.
I am usually a silent viewer, but could I suggest that you guys interview few people with diagnosed ADHD. One came to my mind straight away is Gemma. Or even viewers. Thanks for a very useful podcast. Also, big YES to ADHD friendly school Hugh.
I just listened to the podcast of this and was blown away by the depth but succinctness of Ms Booker’s description of life as an adult with ADHD. I have been clinically diagnosed with ADHD but often doubt myself (is it just in my head, am I really just lazy and disorganised, am I just not likeable ….) because of the stigma and eye rolling. I have been totally reassured by this conversation. I can’t begin to tell you about the negativity I have experienced from people in my life. Thank you Ms Booker for helping me not feel like a fraud, despite my professional diagnosis! And thank you to Hugh, Ryan, and Josh for an exceptional podcast. I hope that you know just how much of a public service you are providing. 🙏🙏🙏
Wow wow wow!!! What a show I've listened to this about 3 times now soooooooo many things that ring bells. I'm in the process of getting an assessment in the 🇬🇧 but, my local area is a 7 year wait! It's crazy I know so I may have to go somewhere else to get this diagnosis. This has seriously damaged my life to the point I can't work or function as a human. Everything feels so difficult, art is my saving grace though. Over eating, sugar and chocolate too 😅. I feel like I'm an alien in this world and that until this is sorted my life is on hold. Your podcasts have been amazing and so helpful! Thank you so much for helping me feel human! Your guests yet again are amazing! My whole life I've felt different. Thank you. Thank you Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. You guys are amazing! Do you ever have "normal" people on not famous or Dr's? Have a beautiful day guys. You're all awesome ❤❤❤❤
I love this podcast. I love the empathy and intelligence with which the topics are discussed. I’ve found something to reflect on personally in almost every episode, but this one spoke directly to me as a woman with ADHD, so thank you guys.
So much that was said here resonates with me. I was actually diagnosed with bipolar disorder after a particularly manic high I went through. Never had those highs before, never had them since, and I’ve disputed that diagnosis for so long. I’d be curious to know if anyone else out there has had a similar experience, as I’m almost certain that I have ADHD and possibly HSP (which I initially thought was ASD). I’m off to my psychiatrist tomorrow, armed with this knowledge, praying for once she’ll actually listen to me.
Loved this until we dismissed the self-diagnosis part, there are so many reasons that formal diagnosis is out of reach for people. What is the worst case? Someone makes accomodations for themselves to make life easier? Why are we so against self-diagnosis. Especially when so many women are seeking diagnosis and get dismissed as 'following the trend'. Please do not dismiss self-diagnosed people.
Totally agree with you, but I can’t help but think how if say, I was self diagnosed I would not want to tell anyone incase I’m wrong, so you can still ask for help from people but you can’t tell them why your struggling becuase you might be incorrect.
It's where I started. The concept that this is a "trend" is offensive, especially as it is the result of decades of chronic underdiagnosis. Ultimately, I hope that we can get to a point that diagnosis is not such a hurdle, as I do believe formal diagnosis is unfortunately key to receiving a good level of care. For years I thought my bouts of depression, and pretty chronic anxiety were just my lot, who knew all along the cause was being neurodivergent in a neurotypical world. The real challenge is that diagnosis, by oneself or a professional, will likely not change how those around you see/understand you, but at least you can begin to understand yourself, and manage your experience in a more hopeful way.
So you FEEEL you have ADHD. That's fine I see too many people defined by letters. I probably have it but I don't let it define me. It's irrelevant. Self reflection and self improvement will overcome the whole alphabet. IMO OFC
It’s hard, and as a woman who got a late ADHD diagnosis, I can see both sides. It can feel invalidating for someone to say something like ‘I procrastinate all the time, I’m so ADHD,’ when that’s just one small part of a bigger issue we live with day to day, and likewise, could be attributed to different diagnoses, or simply part of the human experience. From my perspective, I have no issue if a person without a formal diagnosis resonates with an ADHD person, and makes accommodations if it’s what works for them. However, I think it’s important to be aware that ADHD is not necessarily the issue at hand, it could be a number of different diagnoses. If you have the means to get a diagnosis then you absolutely should, but I understand it’s not highly accessible and I’m very privileged to have gone through the process. I say all this as someone who was misdiagnosed from 12 years old when I started seeing psychologists, and forever wondering what my life would be like if I’d known earlier. We’re not trying to gatekeep ADHD, but please be mindful of your own safety, particularly if you’re looking to self-medicate.
Things like ADHD and Autism are how you were born (I think there are some situations that can lead to ADHD like symptoms but...) It's like saying "Oh you can't be trans or gay unless you prove it" which you used to have to do and has sense been removed from the DSM. I don't think that we should do that with These different neurotypes because we need the medical diagnosis to sometimes force accommodations for people that their sexuality might not need.
44 yeqr old woman here. Ive always had people joke that im adhd. Ive typically dismissed it. But after this podcast i have never felt more seen or understood.
A couple of things: First, I’m hyper aware of time. My extended family used to joke “Oh! They’re here. We can finally start!” because we were always late so my shame reaction to this is to be everywhere super early. Second, when I was in junior primary school my parents told my teachers just to punish me as “necessary” because they couldn’t get me to leave for school on time, or to walk to school in time. I am 50 and still have issues with binge eating. Getting to sleep is not an issue for me, but my going to bed time is ritualised, as are my mornings. When I struggle with these times is when my wife is away. I have massive issues with executive function, with overwhelm, with RSD, and with emotional regulation. Also, I overshare. 😂
I learn quicker than anyone I know to the extent it becomes annoying. My partner spent a year learning to draw and I surpassed her by "no lifing it" for 2 weeks. Super power indeed. Sometimes when talking to oeople It's like I see the world in color but everyone else see it in black and white. So i struggle to explain that I see blue to a person who can't see color.
Watching thiscgorvsecond time. Must of missed the artist bit. This hit home. Im a great artist, but im unable to start a business as I've no idea where to begin the process. It's so frustrating. Started meds today. I pray as titration increases that i find the strength and motivation to put my skills into practice. 🙏 ADHD late diagnosis has robbed me of great opportunities, relationships, career, etc. Today, hopefully, is a new day leading to an improved life.
Yeah… being an HSP with ADHD is exhausting. The body craves order, peace, and calm. The brain says, “shut up and buckle up loser. No way we’re missing out on this ride. Wheee!!!!”
I’m wondering if the shame can sometimes be reframed to gratitude for being an external executive function? As in the CEO who has the place to have a team of executive functioners. Or “thank you, my darling” for reminding me I have to get out the door on time. It would be divine if there were no deadlines or that deliverables were completely flexible. Or someone could talk for hours on end without stop. But … life doesn’t work like that. Michael Theo is incredibly grateful to his mother. Who obviously is his executive function. …..
In our household and when we describe what it’s like to live with ADHD, we say ‘it’s like having a RAVE party going on in your head’!! I take medication (as an adult who is galloping through the joys of Perimenopause AND ADHD 😱🤦🏻♀️🫣🤪), with the aim to reducing the rave party to a melodic 80’s Blue Light Disco. Minus the smooching behind the bleachers… 🩷
These guys are awesome! and thank you for your work Janelle! As an ADHDer, diagnosed at 40 🙄😮💨, I really appreciated this ep. If you are looking to know/understand more, you have to read, or, audio book...because reading... "ADHD 2.0", or "Driven to Distraction", they're by two doctors who also have the condition they specialise in, ADHD! these books were instrumental to me understanding my brain. Also, anyone looking for Neurodivergent specific content, including ADHD, I highly recommend "The Hidden 20%". Its another great pod, produced in the UK, lots of insight there too. I hope recommending other resources isn't against the rules here, I just know i was ravenous for information when I first started the journey of diagnosis. Best of luck to all of those this ep resonated for, it's a journey. 💔❤🩹❤
I learn quicker than anyone I know to the extent it becomes annoying. My partner spent a year learning to draw and I surpassed her by "no lifing it" for 2 weeks. Super power indeed. Sometimes when talking to people It's like I see the world in color but everyone else see it in black and white. So i struggle to explain that I see blue to a person who can't see color.
I self diagnosed many decades ago but never understood how devastatingly and destructive it was to my life. Through Menopause in and my wotld came crashing down. Took 53 years to get diagnosed with Autism, ADHD. Dyscalcula, Dyspraxia and Ehlers Danlos. New life, medicated and self validated.
These diagnoses have helped me massively to process past trauma from not being supported or believed.
I am usually a silent viewer, but could I suggest that you guys interview few people with diagnosed ADHD. One came to my mind straight away is Gemma. Or even viewers. Thanks for a very useful podcast. Also, big YES to ADHD friendly school Hugh.
I just listened to the podcast of this and was blown away by the depth but succinctness of Ms Booker’s description of life as an adult with ADHD. I have been clinically diagnosed with ADHD but often doubt myself (is it just in my head, am I really just lazy and disorganised, am I just not likeable ….) because of the stigma and eye rolling. I have been totally reassured by this conversation. I can’t begin to tell you about the negativity I have experienced from people in my life. Thank you Ms Booker for helping me not feel like a fraud, despite my professional diagnosis! And thank you to Hugh, Ryan, and Josh for an exceptional podcast. I hope that you know just how much of a public service you are providing. 🙏🙏🙏
either overwhelmed or underwhelmed!
Wow wow wow!!! What a show I've listened to this about 3 times now soooooooo many things that ring bells. I'm in the process of getting an assessment in the 🇬🇧 but, my local area is a 7 year wait! It's crazy I know so I may have to go somewhere else to get this diagnosis. This has seriously damaged my life to the point I can't work or function as a human. Everything feels so difficult, art is my saving grace though. Over eating, sugar and chocolate too 😅. I feel like I'm an alien in this world and that until this is sorted my life is on hold. Your podcasts have been amazing and so helpful! Thank you so much for helping me feel human! Your guests yet again are amazing! My whole life I've felt different. Thank you. Thank you Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. You guys are amazing! Do you ever have "normal" people on not famous or Dr's? Have a beautiful day guys. You're all awesome ❤❤❤❤
I love this podcast. I love the empathy and intelligence with which the topics are discussed. I’ve found something to reflect on personally in almost every episode, but this one spoke directly to me as a woman with ADHD, so thank you guys.
So much that was said here resonates with me. I was actually diagnosed with bipolar disorder after a particularly manic high I went through. Never had those highs before, never had them since, and I’ve disputed that diagnosis for so long. I’d be curious to know if anyone else out there has had a similar experience, as I’m almost certain that I have ADHD and possibly HSP (which I initially thought was ASD).
I’m off to my psychiatrist tomorrow, armed with this knowledge, praying for once she’ll actually listen to me.
as someone working with ADHD this tab has been opened for a week. I tried to watch it again but can't get through the first 10 mins.
Loved this until we dismissed the self-diagnosis part, there are so many reasons that formal diagnosis is out of reach for people. What is the worst case? Someone makes accomodations for themselves to make life easier? Why are we so against self-diagnosis. Especially when so many women are seeking diagnosis and get dismissed as 'following the trend'. Please do not dismiss self-diagnosed people.
Totally agree with you, but I can’t help but think how if say, I was self diagnosed I would not want to tell anyone incase I’m wrong, so you can still ask for help from people but you can’t tell them why your struggling becuase you might be incorrect.
It's where I started. The concept that this is a "trend" is offensive, especially as it is the result of decades of chronic underdiagnosis. Ultimately, I hope that we can get to a point that diagnosis is not such a hurdle, as I do believe formal diagnosis is unfortunately key to receiving a good level of care. For years I thought my bouts of depression, and pretty chronic anxiety were just my lot, who knew all along the cause was being neurodivergent in a neurotypical world. The real challenge is that diagnosis, by oneself or a professional, will likely not change how those around you see/understand you, but at least you can begin to understand yourself, and manage your experience in a more hopeful way.
So you FEEEL you have ADHD. That's fine I see too many people defined by letters.
I probably have it but I don't let it define me. It's irrelevant. Self reflection and self improvement will overcome the whole alphabet. IMO OFC
It’s hard, and as a woman who got a late ADHD diagnosis, I can see both sides. It can feel invalidating for someone to say something like ‘I procrastinate all the time, I’m so ADHD,’ when that’s just one small part of a bigger issue we live with day to day, and likewise, could be attributed to different diagnoses, or simply part of the human experience. From my perspective, I have no issue if a person without a formal diagnosis resonates with an ADHD person, and makes accommodations if it’s what works for them. However, I think it’s important to be aware that ADHD is not necessarily the issue at hand, it could be a number of different diagnoses. If you have the means to get a diagnosis then you absolutely should, but I understand it’s not highly accessible and I’m very privileged to have gone through the process. I say all this as someone who was misdiagnosed from 12 years old when I started seeing psychologists, and forever wondering what my life would be like if I’d known earlier.
We’re not trying to gatekeep ADHD, but please be mindful of your own safety, particularly if you’re looking to self-medicate.
Things like ADHD and Autism are how you were born (I think there are some situations that can lead to ADHD like symptoms but...)
It's like saying "Oh you can't be trans or gay unless you prove it" which you used to have to do and has sense been removed from the DSM. I don't think that we should do that with These different neurotypes because we need the medical diagnosis to sometimes force accommodations for people that their sexuality might not need.
44 yeqr old woman here. Ive always had people joke that im adhd. Ive typically dismissed it. But after this podcast i have never felt more seen or understood.
What an amazing podcast. I have learned so much.
A couple of things:
First, I’m hyper aware of time. My extended family used to joke “Oh! They’re here. We can finally start!” because we were always late so my shame reaction to this is to be everywhere super early.
Second, when I was in junior primary school my parents told my teachers just to punish me as “necessary” because they couldn’t get me to leave for school on time, or to walk to school in time.
I am 50 and still have issues with binge eating.
Getting to sleep is not an issue for me, but my going to bed time is ritualised, as are my mornings. When I struggle with these times is when my wife is away.
I have massive issues with executive function, with overwhelm, with RSD, and with emotional regulation.
Also, I overshare. 😂
Amazing! Thank you so much!
I learn quicker than anyone I know to the extent it becomes annoying. My partner spent a year learning to draw and I surpassed her by "no lifing it" for 2 weeks. Super power indeed.
Sometimes when talking to oeople It's like I see the world in color but everyone else see it in black and white.
So i struggle to explain that I see blue to a person who can't see color.
Watching thiscgorvsecond time. Must of missed the artist bit. This hit home. Im a great artist, but im unable to start a business as I've no idea where to begin the process. It's so frustrating.
Started meds today. I pray as titration increases that i find the strength and motivation to put my skills into practice. 🙏
ADHD late diagnosis has robbed me of great opportunities, relationships, career, etc. Today, hopefully, is a new day leading to an improved life.
Yeah… being an HSP with ADHD is exhausting. The body craves order, peace, and calm. The brain says, “shut up and buckle up loser. No way we’re missing out on this ride. Wheee!!!!”
Thank you all very much ❤
I’m wondering if the shame can sometimes be reframed to gratitude for being an external executive function? As in the CEO who has the place to have a team of executive functioners. Or “thank you, my darling” for reminding me I have to get out the door on time. It would be divine if there were no deadlines or that deliverables were completely flexible. Or someone could talk for hours on end without stop. But … life doesn’t work like that. Michael Theo is incredibly grateful to his mother. Who obviously is his executive function. …..
ironic that comes out the day I fail my uni course, I can't hide from the truth
In our household and when we describe what it’s like to live with ADHD, we say ‘it’s like having a RAVE party going on in your head’!! I take medication (as an adult who is galloping through the joys of Perimenopause AND ADHD 😱🤦🏻♀️🫣🤪), with the aim to reducing the rave party to a melodic 80’s Blue Light Disco. Minus the smooching behind the bleachers… 🩷
Love this analogy. 😀
These guys are awesome! and thank you for your work Janelle!
As an ADHDer, diagnosed at 40 🙄😮💨, I really appreciated this ep. If you are looking to know/understand more, you have to read, or, audio book...because reading... "ADHD 2.0", or "Driven to Distraction", they're by two doctors who also have the condition they specialise in, ADHD! these books were instrumental to me understanding my brain. Also, anyone looking for Neurodivergent specific content, including ADHD, I highly recommend "The Hidden 20%". Its another great pod, produced in the UK, lots of insight there too. I hope recommending other resources isn't against the rules here, I just know i was ravenous for information when I first started the journey of diagnosis. Best of luck to all of those this ep resonated for, it's a journey. 💔❤🩹❤
I learn quicker than anyone I know to the extent it becomes annoying. My partner spent a year learning to draw and I surpassed her by "no lifing it" for 2 weeks. Super power indeed.
Sometimes when talking to people It's like I see the world in color but everyone else see it in black and white.
So i struggle to explain that I see blue to a person who can't see color.