Making a Violin Part 16 | CNC Violin Neck | Guaneri "Vieuxtemps"
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2019
- Part 16 of making the Guarnieri "Vieuxtemps" violin. CNC cutting the Neck and scroll.
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As always, love your content. Really cool to see you build this way. One thing I noticed is that the grain in the neck looks vertical, the way a guitar neck is made. Grain for violin neck is usually horizontal, not vertical; unlike guitars. For one the flames look better, and two, I've been reading that the horizontal grain is better for the pegbox. I'm no master, so maybe double check, but that's what comes to mind when I see this.
That might be the case, its worked out well though.
great job - man
I kinda like the table move to and fro whilst the CNC routes the scroll. 😊
Thanks, I have cross-braced up the table a bit since then, I will rebuild it at some point
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i am big fan of you
Thanks for watching, I'm a big fan of all you awesome people out there watching.
You should consider orienting the grain on a different axis for the scroll and neck. The annual rings should go 90 degrees from where you have them. In other words looking down from the very top of the scroll the annual rings should go east west not north south. Hope that makes sense. Love your vids!
Thanks, I will try that next time.
I think they call that quarter sawn
@@MrHanzeeman I think of quarter sawn as to how the lumber is cut from logs with the grain going vertically if you're looking at a flat board that is wider than it's tall. I have an old violin and the neck is figured maple, so I'm guessing the grain is basically in a vertical direction as it would be much stronger like that. My neck has a lot of cracks around the tuning peg holes, so I wonder if figured wood is weaker than just plain quarter sawn lumber in some directions?
I'm no luthier, but I think the grain is in the right direction
great video. Are you going to do the cleanup with gouges? Are you going to do the fluting of the scroll with hand tools also? I would love to talk more about this.
Yes I plan to to do a lot of hand work to clean it up and and do the flutes
I would definitely fix anything that needs fixing in the CNC programming and try again. This part should be able to be CNC cut.
The cnc gcode is good(I canmake it better). My machine has been faulting and destroying parts. Ive been working woth the people at geckodrive on a solution. Im working on a video of what I have done.
@@TwoCherriesIns More RAM on your computer may help
@@invetech1 I have since found a few reasons for the estop problem. The machine hasn't had a random estop in quite a while. The pc that I run mach 3 with is probably 15 years old, I run windows XP in a very stripped down fasion. I was thinking that it might have been to keep up with the real time tasks but it ended up being a grounding issue that was shutting down the power supply.
Still curious how you are attaching the workpiece to the table. Great project.
It's a trick I learned for attaching templates, and I love it on the cnc. I use masking tape and I burnish it into the part and the table. Then I use super glue to hold the tape peices together.
Have you thought about making the CNC models available for others to give it a try?
I share most of my fusion 360 files with my patron members, it's only $1 per month. www.patreon.com/Twocherriesinstruments
Hola soy Diego desde Colombia , interesante su trabajo , hay posibilidad de que compartieras los archivos ?
I share these my fusion 360 files on Patreon
I am interested to make cello necks, what is the CNC machine you used?
Its the crp2448 from CNC router parts
Can you send all details about violin neck cnc machine ?(sldprt or stp)
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Firstly the so-called purists and nay sayers should just screw off! With detail and further honing of your craft you can produce a concert violin and bring prices in reach of many. Ninety seven percent of the audiences would not hear the difference! Keep up the great work!🙏🙏🙏
Thanks, I just let them do there thing, I've be surprised by the amount of interest in this, I'm definitely going to keep it up.
ua-cam.com/video/5E0x-T4d5Rc/v-deo.html
This looks a bit more detail capable.
It doesn't capture any more details, just less set-up work. I do plan on doing some work like this in the future but not for a fiddle neck.
@@TwoCherriesIns I'm sorry, I thought you said you would have to cut the flutes out with a chisel. The end of the job on that other machine is show below with them cut out.
Well unable to post a screen shot. If you go to the end of the other video to see the completed unit you will be able to view. I like your video also. Only violin I ever made came in a kit form so all the hard work was already done but I love my kit of the 5 string. Thanks for getting back to us. I think this automated cutting has a place in our world to expedite construction but nothing can outdo the Luthier who finishes and tunes the instrument.
@@smartfiddlestix it's not that I would have to cut them my hand, more that the amount of setup time would not be worth the effort for something easly done by hand. Milling unsupported like this is very challenging, takes a lot if trial and error to get to this point.
That’s a 5-axis machine costing hundreds of thousands of dollars, and tens of thousands more in automated fixturing. You’d better be selling instruments by the thousands.
And I bet they still make a lot of scrap. When removing as much material as done when making a neck, the internal stresses in the wood will cause some amount of warping. While a luthier making a neck by hand can adjust as the work progresses, a CNC machine can’t.
But maybe the OP is just being a little cheeky. If so, good one.
Apparently violin luthiers won't share everything
What do you mean?
@@TwoCherriesIns they will almost show you everything. I asked about carving the neck. To a luthier he said you will have to go online. 😕
@@WOKINTUSD oh, I see. There is actually a lot of content for carving necks and scrolls on UA-cam. Its a very complex task and I think most makers learn it on there own by failure and persistace.