CNC violin making machine, CNC router for violin instrument

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  • CNC router for violin instrument. This machine is a 4-axis full automatic CNC control, with tool magazine, one-step finishing violin instrument.
    Please contact with Mr. Franks Cao for machine details:
    Web: www.zhenhuan-machine.com
    Email: zhenhuan@zhenhuan-machine.com
    Skype: frankscao
    Whatsapp: +86-13962724758
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  • @studiosinger
    @studiosinger 5 років тому +4

    Whoever made the machine is genius!

  • @laurencelance586
    @laurencelance586 7 років тому +26

    As a woodworker and as a violinist I have no problems with this method of making an instrument. Of course these machines are very expensive and one must recapture that investment, but such methods may make it possible for students who cannot afford a decent hand made instrument to do so with one made in this manner.

    • @ZhenhuanMachine
      @ZhenhuanMachine  5 років тому +1

      Yes, right. Thanks.

    • @georgealin7472
      @georgealin7472 4 роки тому +3

      Between this one and one made by exploited people in some fucked up country I'll go with this one. You may be a man of passion but unfortunately this cannot be said about everyone

    • @glennlopez6772
      @glennlopez6772 3 роки тому

      You have invited interesting comments!
      Please reconsider these words:
      1. Affordable, deserving, they have such a lot and exploitation of labour. ( There could be sweat shops any where! ) It seems more about a cause.
      2. We all enjoy modern conveniences and this C N.C. is truly marvelous. However don't let it give you a complex!
      The only worrying aspect is the high rate of removal of wood and the deep heating all in one go!
      These shops can boast and corner the the finest woods but will the machined parts be dimensionally stable.
      Will the woods retain their intrinsic desired physical qualities or would it turn out to be a waste of prized aged wood.
      Slower working speeds will defeat the cost advantages but could give great accuracy and repeatibility.
      I wish I could be a builder like you but in my area procuring small quantities is a problem.
      As the knowhow is no longer secret I personally would prefer a good hand made instrument instead of an old Stradivarius.

    • @lucasmhevia
      @lucasmhevia 3 роки тому +1

      Im luthier and violinplayer and I accept even the chinese`s violins, they allow to enter to the violin`s world for 40 u$s. They really have everything you need to know to study.
      Also I have one of this cheaps violins, with some modifications and Helicore Daddario strings and till the actual day, I cant belive how it sounds.

  • @axlcrush1954
    @axlcrush1954 6 років тому +4

    We marvel at the hand crafting skills of master violin makers, and frown on machine made, but objectively, the production and programming for this machine requires tremendous amount of skill too, if not more.

    • @basneelen7983
      @basneelen7983 6 років тому +1

      But once your machine is programated the work is done, and you copy hundreds of the exact same violins. A master violin maker always inproves his builds on his experiences and puts his soul and craftmanship in the instrument he is making. Now you will say that a program maker does just the same, but the part that bothers me is that when you make violins this way, the intrument and the builder will no longer be unique. You can buy a program and the right machine for it, but you can't buy skill and experience to build them manually...

    • @grinninggoat5369
      @grinninggoat5369 6 років тому

      Nobody attends an Orchestral event or buys a fine instrument to applaud a computer programmer. I would suggest to those who think that newer trend is all and fine to do, that they should maybe rather want to attend Raves, listen to and critique Dubstep drops amongst their friends or play something that requires batteries with the label of Roland or Casio on it.

  • @JohnnyArtPavlou
    @JohnnyArtPavlou 6 років тому

    All this machinery making Renaissance instruments can still be open-hearted...

  • @Kiboz2000
    @Kiboz2000 4 роки тому

    Fantastic machine

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 5 років тому

    Pretty cool!

  • @adamm4064
    @adamm4064 7 років тому +10

    I bet this machine cost as much as a small house. Super cool though and the programmer has skills.

    • @Frankscao
      @Frankscao 7 років тому +1

      Yes, it is not cheap. Around USD 95000.

    • @ChrisHillmanKnows
      @ChrisHillmanKnows 6 років тому

      Probably costs much more than a house.

    • @PrinceWesterburg
      @PrinceWesterburg 5 років тому

      I don't think there is a programmer - You give the control software a 3D CAD model and it works out how to move the tool then stores that as a work file. Its the same with rats-nests in PCB design, the track layout is done by software with no intervention from the user.

    • @sasha42196
      @sasha42196 5 місяців тому

      Very large house.

  • @nourdraw1548
    @nourdraw1548 5 років тому

    This is 5 axis my friend, don't underestimate your machine!

    • @ZhenhuanMachine
      @ZhenhuanMachine  5 років тому +1

      5-axis means five servo motors for 5 actions.

    • @nourdraw1548
      @nourdraw1548 5 років тому

      Franks Cao exactly, XYZ are regular. The head is rotating and the stock is rotating, does sound like 5 actions to me

  • @muzician338
    @muzician338 Рік тому

    The Cremonese masters like Stradivari etc. had to use a foot treadle to run their CNC machines.

  • @joeh4232
    @joeh4232 7 років тому +2

    thats really cool. I guess it would make front and back plates also?

    • @Frankscao
      @Frankscao 7 років тому

      Dear, very sorry that this machine can only produce the neck. Please send me your front and back plate by email: zhenhuan@zhenhuan-machine.com.

  • @MG-bn9yc
    @MG-bn9yc 5 років тому +1

    So when they say handmade they are referring to the robotic hand

  • @lucyscarlet5567
    @lucyscarlet5567 7 років тому +1

    Hi.
    What material was used in the making of this violin and would it be possible to get the files to replicate this?
    Thanks,
    Lucy S

    • @ZhenhuanMachine
      @ZhenhuanMachine  7 років тому +1

      Thanks for your interest. Could you please send email to zhenhuan@zhenhuan-machine.com?
      B/R

    • @user-zt8zx1sm2t
      @user-zt8zx1sm2t 2 роки тому

      OMG.. Can i..?

  • @kameijohnwilson9208
    @kameijohnwilson9208 5 років тому +1

    I hope more machine would be used and violin price goes down

    • @zeriano8590
      @zeriano8590 3 роки тому

      1 y later, but decent violin isn't pricy, around 100$

  • @ekok2379
    @ekok2379 5 років тому +1

    I do not know what to do.

  • @OzgurSarer
    @OzgurSarer 4 роки тому

    SKYNET is watchin yo...

  • @n.g.mmusicals7446
    @n.g.mmusicals7446 Рік тому

    Plz send all details about violin neck cnc machine Mr frank

  • @davidvoyance4522
    @davidvoyance4522 3 роки тому

    It is easier to make the head. How about the whole plates?

    • @ZhenhuanMachine
      @ZhenhuanMachine  3 роки тому

      Dear David, the blank material is just a piece of wood plate.

  • @zslovakiamusical5603
    @zslovakiamusical5603 4 роки тому

    Hello.
    Dear, I want purchase this machine for making the violin machine..please tell me the how much its cost.

  • @grinninggoat5369
    @grinninggoat5369 6 років тому

    I would imagine that the initial cost of a violin made this way would still not be cheap unless other non-musical or more quickly produced, faster selling items were also made on the machine that could help recoup the cost of the machine quickly.
    Even if I'm wrong about that previous statement, I don't see anyone other than violin students of the nerdy type and children oblivious to perceived and tangible value wanting an instrument with a label exclaiming their instrument was made by "Stradi-3P-O"; especially as far as resale value.
    And, as for sound quality, it may be good but nobody would have something with uniqueness unless paying to have it's dimensions tailored later by a luthier or, the milling machine was custom programmed to mill the plates and such things to each buyer's particular specs/style of playing (which would require the involvement of a luthier to work with the mill programmer for each customer unless the choices were pre-determined and very limited). If that could be offered, it might not be so bad for sound quality and matching to any particular end user's style but still, that can be had by a good luthier on any type instrument (CNC milled or not) and most of all don't forget...… resale value should not be based solely on who in the past played the instrument well, and I admit it should be regardless of the maker as well, but should be mostly assessed on the merit of the instrument itself and how many people it helped to play it like an Angel (or Devil). I see that hard to accomplish with just a milling machine.
    All the above being said, I'm sure all of the big operational, and usually outsourced violin manufacturers are salivating over machines like these while trying to find a way to spin a sense of increased quality to their customers while actually only reducing their overhead and payroll costs. My hat's off for the maker of this milling machine in that regard!
    Of course, I could be wrong about everything I said! lol

  • @GreenAppleee
    @GreenAppleee 6 років тому +1

    The weird part of made in china

  • @focuscnc
    @focuscnc 6 років тому

    Hi ,I am interested in your spindle , Can it change the tool ? How much unit price ?

    • @ZhenhuanMachine
      @ZhenhuanMachine  6 років тому

      Thank you very much for your interest. What is your purpose of the machine? Please send me email zhenhuan@zhenhuan-machine.com.

    • @ZhenhuanMachine
      @ZhenhuanMachine  6 років тому

      Please contact zhenhuan@zhenhuan-machine.com

  • @jfan4reva
    @jfan4reva 6 років тому +1

    Perhaps those of you who don't like the idea of CNC parts would prefer this ua-cam.com/video/J7s29vEo17M/v-deo.html
    Hand made with no power tools.

  • @VanessaLouredo
    @VanessaLouredo 17 днів тому

    Hi, do you sell this project for cnc?

  • @symphonic824
    @symphonic824 2 місяці тому

    Program hawe much

  • @markkulyas2418
    @markkulyas2418 4 роки тому

    I think he needs a coffee break, he doesn't have much personality.

  • @aumproject
    @aumproject 4 роки тому

    process : awsome!
    footage: awful !

  • @thomassiegler9898
    @thomassiegler9898 3 роки тому +1

    How can you expect a lovely sounding instrument
    made by a machine that produces such ugly noises?
    What's the point of milling a violin scroll,
    an item that is supposed to be a work of art,
    carved diligently and meticulously by the maker,
    showing his individual creativity?
    Every piece of wood is different,
    and a violin needs to have
    the ear, the eye and the feel of its maker.
    So machines will never be able to take over in this realm.
    It will never be a violin, just a VSO (violin shaped object).

    • @rossthefiddler5890
      @rossthefiddler5890 2 роки тому

      Have you ever fitted a bridge to a violin? Did you start with the 'machined' blank or did you cut the bridge totally from a block of maple? No, we use machine blanks & then finish them by hand. These machined violin parts can still be finished by hand to give a final 'hand made' instrument. I don't know if that is the case here though.

    • @muzician338
      @muzician338 Рік тому

      Presumably you're aware of how long it takes to carve a neck by hand. The point is this is how you make an instrument that's good enough to learn on without paying a boutique shop price. Yes, a hand-carved scroll and neck is exquisite - so is the pricetag.

  • @rd9831
    @rd9831 4 роки тому

    It will be a sad day when machines play the violin and totally eliminate the musicians.

  • @fiddlefaddle1
    @fiddlefaddle1 5 років тому

    My problem with all of this is the loss of countless jobs replaced by machine. If millions of people are replaced by machines and don't work and make a paycheck , how can they afford to buy anything that these machines produce? It rather defeats the purpose of being alive and contributing but, what the hell do the elite care as long as they save a buck. Oops, there goes their bucks when people can't afford to buy anything that they make. You can keep it. My violin was made by hand.

    • @MGPL_
      @MGPL_ 4 роки тому

      We used to work in fields and factories 7 days a week. It’s progression. Plus this will likely increase demand by driving the cost of these grossly overpriced instruments

  • @falakr2547
    @falakr2547 6 років тому +5

    This worries me, because this means that every violin will be exactly the same. The machine will make precise copies every time. Human error makes these instruments beautiful. A machine would ruin that.

    • @jfan4reva
      @jfan4reva 6 років тому +2

      Not to worry. Every piece of wood is unique, even after it's been run through a machine that makes 'precise copies every time'. Ask luthiers about human error making things beautiful. They work very hard to keep human error out of their instruments.
      The advantage of a hand made instrument is that the human who creates it can see and feel the characteristics of each piece of wood, and can compensate for its unique characteristics. Currently, machines cannot.

    • @PrinceWesterburg
      @PrinceWesterburg 5 років тому +1

      I had four 'identical' electric guitar bodies (read: Slabs of wood), all mahogany and the notes they resonated at where over an octave difference in range, 14 semitones of memory serves.

    • @WombieFerguson
      @WombieFerguson 5 років тому +1

      That's just silly. Instruments are merely tools. Some are easier to use, some look better, some sound better, some produce unique tones, some are more affordable, and all of these options will be widely in demand for the foreseeable future. Also, 99% of people who like a particular song couldn't give a shit less what instrument was used, just that it sounds good. It's frankly about time string instruments became more affordable. This is a necessary step in changing peoples perception of classical music as something only elites can enjoy.

    • @linkreincarnate9402
      @linkreincarnate9402 5 років тому +1

      Then just buy a machined one and sand/ plane it by hand. Now it's unique. (Not that that has any actual value)

    • @edloki3057
      @edloki3057 5 років тому +1

      Dude, you still have to hand-finish the violin. I don't mind the machine taking the bulk of the work. I built a few fiddles and the most tedious part of it is removing material. Machines do the bulk removal of material, human hands do the finesse work.

  • @KM-px8cs
    @KM-px8cs 7 років тому +13

    Machines should have no part in violin sculpting.

    • @Frankscao
      @Frankscao 7 років тому +3

      Dear, there is no any original violin sculpting, but only program from drawing.

    • @KM-px8cs
      @KM-px8cs 7 років тому +1

      +Cao Franks That's not what I meant nor my point. Violins should be hand made for multiple reasons. Are rolls royces made on a assembly line??

    • @Frankscao
      @Frankscao 7 років тому +2

      Dear, the automatic machine will finish the part completely, no manual modifications more.

    • @KM-px8cs
      @KM-px8cs 7 років тому +2

      Whatever you say.

    • @Frankscao
      @Frankscao 7 років тому +2

      Dear, I am sorry that I can't understand your meaning. Are you looking for the machine? If do, please give me your email and part details.
      B/R

  • @tinoesterhuizen4433
    @tinoesterhuizen4433 6 років тому

    Wouldn't want a CNC violin for free.