Hi everyone! I'm trying something new here, let me know what you think. And don't worry, a NASCAR video is on the way after Phoenix. Thanks for watching! Edit: The overwhelming support for this video was unexpected. Thank you everyone. I am planning on expanding into football now so be on the lookout for a new video in the coming weeks.
I like what'cha did here. But I'm waiting for someone to break through internet memes in ways that affect the present before looking back at things in the past. It's _astounding_ how people are affected by these things. But I don't know what you do or don't know or how long you've been looking at NFL football. None of your other videos are on this subject.
Bench Jones Also, that 2015 season was so frustrating to watch. They lost so many games by less than a score. And getting rid of Coughlin showed just how good of a coach he really was. We didn’t know how good we had it😩
Na We knew how good we had it, the Organization got that Big Head and F'd Everything up. They are the ones that didn't know Once you got rid of Coughlin it was a wrap, New coach new philosophy
The Redskins are like the Cowboys without the hopeful winning seasons lol. When I was kid we had one losing season from like 82 to 94. We haven't made a championship game nor 11 win season since before PlayStation started making consoles
@@rturner09251 He had career years in 14' and 15. The defense was the problem. Had they had a defense they easily would've made the playoffs. In 16' they were average offensively but had a top 5 defense.
wasnt the line it was the coach who wanted Eli to be a west coast passer and made him think to much which resulted in Eli holding the ball way to long and then checking it down.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924you’re exactly right, Eli left the field practically every possession with a score to give the team the lead but the defense failed each time. All of our losses from like 14-16 were within a score and at the hand of last chance opportunities.
It’s also worth noting that Odell got suspended after the Panthers game and was unable to play the following week in what was basically an elimination game vs the Vikings.
It’s really not worth nothing because we were 6-7 heading into that game and had the 3rd best record in that division. Even if Odell was available for Minnesota, we still lost to Philly so we still would’ve been 3rd
@@thomasziccarello4411 Giants were officially eliminated when Washington beat Philly on the Saturday prior to the Giants/Vikings game on SNF. That Minnesota game on SNF was worthless.
Great work. I had forgotten about Coughlin snubbing Mara like that, and you're 100% right. to just the refusal to shake his hand, but the knowledge that whatever had taken place behind closed doors enraged Coughlin so much that he publicly dissed Mara showed us also that without Wellington, and without Accorsi, the team was rudderless. As evidenced by all that has happened since.
2015 is one of the most frustrating seasons ever as a Giants fan. Watching the offense kick field goals in goal to go situations and having the defense give up every lead in the last 2 minutes of a game was unbearable to watch. Also losing Victor Cruz for 2 seasons was a big problem as well. And Rashad Jennings was a decent signing but we needed a better replacement for Bradshaw. Seemed like Jerry Reese couldn’t hit on any of his draft picks either during that time frame. Rueben randle was an ok WR, David Wilson retired early, Damontre Moore was immature, Landon Collins overrated, Eli Apple was a disaster, Ereck flowers was unplayable, and so on. The Giants from 2012-2018 failed Eli manning. He definitely had another run in him and he played some of his best football during those years and the Giants couldn’t get him any help. Sad to see coughlin be let go after winning two super bowls and sad to see Eli get benched by a head coach with little to no experience. Hopefully we can go back to the giants football we’re used to soon.
2014-2018 literally took everything out of me as a Giants fan. Organizational failure from top to bottom. Cheap owner, mismanagement of injuries, horrible coaching staffs, overall could never get with the times. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. This season especially was the worst of it. The Dallas game and the Patriots game still give me major ptsd. New Orleans game too from that stupid punt return (like we hadn’t learned from Desean Jackson). Easily could’ve had 4 wins if they remembered the basic fundamentals of football late in those games. The 2016 season was such a fluke too. Moronically kept Reese after letting go of Coughlin. Ben Mcadoo and that whole team had no aura and the season ended distastorously. Set em back an additional few years.
Great video. 2015 was definitely the most infuriating season as a Giants fan. It wasn't even the fact that Coughlin was let go. It was that they didn't get rid of Reese when it happened. Everyone on the coaching staff including the GM stayed. Imagine placing the entire blame on your future HOF Head Coach and not the GM? That's why we are what we are now.
That’s why John Mara is the absolute worst. All the good things that happened under him were a result of the foundation that his daddy built, as well as Ernie Accorsi
Yeah that season had me going mad! How you blame the season on the Hall Of Fame coach but let Reeses ass slide? He got too much credit for the Super Bowl wins when it was Ernie Accorsi who built that first team and the second was still a lot holdover from that first championship team but he definitely did contribute but that select the best player available mantra didn’t help us. Eli had enough to win one more!
@whoasked9500 I miss the mid-2010s. It was a fun time to root for and watch the Panthers. Panthers fans can only dream of success and fun in this decade.
@@71invictus what's that got to do with this Sunday morning? That being said...I'm a Giants fan. Have you seen them lately? What makes you think they can beat anyone. The QB, offense and coach Dabacle sucks.
@@DoubleHeader97 I'm a Giants fan and things are pretty bad for us too. This week we've got the Giants/Panthers coming up in Germany. I'm not sure who's going to win it but I could see either team coming away with a W. I wouldn't feel too bad about the Panthers though. You guys are going to be picking high in draft and things can change quickly if you get the right player. Look at Washington, they swept the Giants this year after getting Drake Maye. I'm a lot more worried about the Giants future. We seem to mess everything up. Last year we were absolutely terrible but at least that would have gotten us a great spot in the draft to pick a QB. But then we end up winning 3 meaningless games in a row with Tommy "Cutletts" Devito. Now I really like Tommy and it would have been an amazing story if he went from the practice squad to our future QB. But those games put us just out of reach of the draft pick we needed.
Would've love to see Coughlin stay a bit longer. I think him and Eli had more left in the tank. Also I'm loving this channel as a Giants and NASCAR fan!
This is one of the best football videos I've ever watched. Entirely because I NEVER even knew about this, nor would've guessed it. This is exactly the kind of content that deserves to be the #1 trending video on the site.
I was so hyped on that team because I knew they had a legitimate shot to repeat. Then I came home one night and read the news and couldn't believe it, I knew it was over.
This is my first time seeing a video from you. And man, you're instantly my favorite sports youtuber period! There was a lot of work put into this video, and it was very informative and entertaining. I'm tired of seeing other creators that just do hot takes like ESPN, or provide bland commentary. I really appreciate you explaining the games with real insight. I'm subbed now!
I always say this team fell apart when Coughlin departed. 2015 season kills me, I go back & rewatch the season highlights almost weekly 😭. 2012 as well... Thank you for this video!! If only the 2016 defense was on the 2015 team...
Great video, this was definitely one of the most frustrating years as a Giants fan. Coughlin's clock management that year was very questionable. When the Giants got into that shootout with the Saints I kept saying "let them score" so the GMen could get the ball back with time. Towards the end you suggested this was the biggest what-if season for the Giants, I actually think that distinction goes to the 2008 Giants who were rolling post-superbowl until Plaxico took out his own leg.
Great video! I loved the CoD WaW music in the background! I’m an Eagles fan, but yea, completely agree, the 2015 season was the absolute nail in the coffin for the Giants. Hasn’t been the same for that franchise and the fans have suffered since!
I think after the 2011 Super Bowl the demise began, little cracks in the foundation to start but that's all it takes to eventually bring the whole thing down. You can do a 5 hour documentary about the fall of the Giants and it be depressingly entertaining at all of the inepitude this franchise has reached and still sadly reaching for. Good stuff nonetheless.
I love the WaW music, it fits perfectly what 2015 was. This season is the reason I’m completely desensitized to losing in the worst ways. People don’t talk enough about that panthers game. Coulda been the greatest win in regular season history. Beckham that year was as good and Julio Jones and AB. And we will always love Eli and Coach Coughlin. Great video
That was the infamous brawl with Norman to. Man I wanted that win. Same with the Saints game. I remember our punter got called for a face mask that set up the winning kick.
Excellent take. And I have been saying this for years. Letting Coughlin go was a horrible move by John Mara. But, he wanted to put his own "stamp" on the Giants. (Accorsi & Coughlin were his father's hires, and Reese was an Accorsi hire.). John Mara has completely ruined this team. And I do not see him changing his ways OR selling the team.
I’ve been a Giants fan for over 40 years. I was skeptical clicking on your video, but your analysis is spot on. The Giants forced Coughlin out thinking they were bringing in the next great offensive mind. The boat fiasco never would’ve happened under Coughlin, nor would the 2017 collapse. The Giants probably would’ve drafted a QB in 2018, or 2020. Oh, what might’ve been.
@@Ambivalence18 The game against the Panthers in 2015 and the playoff blowout against the Packers-both of which involved OBJ controversy-foreshadowed the disastrous 2017 season and beyond (minus the 2022 season).
That was the beginning of the end, but that could have happened after the 2012 season instead. Here's how: If Tony Romo didn't miss a wide open Miles Austin with 2:36 left in Dallas's Week 14 game (of the 2011 season) against the Giants (on Sunday Night Football), the Cowboys end up winning the division that year, and the Giants miss the playoffs (with no SB). Then, after they collapse in 2012 (after a 6-2 start), Coughlin is gone, and it's possible that Eli is as well.
Great Video - Thanks. It bring back memories of when the Giants had an explosive offense. Was nice to see Eli at the helm again and see the ball travel more than 5 yds in the air... Go Giants.
Many have complimented the choice to use CoD music but I'd like to shout out the traditional irish catholic hymnal you used for sad violin music to signify the 3nd of the coughlin era. Canticle of the Turning. Love it.
That season we were 6th in scoring offense but 30th in scoring defense!!!! The game against the Jets, I ripped out my Giants shirt in anger and complete frustration 😣. I’m so sick of losing, just sick of it !!!!!
Great video bro! As a diehard loyal giants fan this past decade has been rough, but the future is bright. Hoping we land a top 3 pick and finally get the right QB for the future. Cam Ward would be my personal choice but I trust daboll to develop a young QB. We have the d-line, o-line has improved, budding star WR, Tracy has shown rb1 potential, have to work on our secondary but look at Washington man! They were in a worse situation than us & look how finding the right quarterback changes everything. I’m hoping the same for my GMEN 🙏🏾
Wow. That is where the feeling I have every week watching the giants started. My dad died in 2014 and the old giants died with them. Been a tough 10 years since then.
There's alot of ingredients to this season: Firstly Tom Coughlin was indeed starting to age out of the job. As much as he gets this image of being a curmudgeon, Tom was always a fan of big offense and was a very modern thinker in the game, and that's why he was always one of the best on challenges. Tom is as good of an in-game coach as I've ever seen and when that started to slip in 2015, in addition to losing grip of special teams and uncharacteristically giving Odell cover in the press, I knew the end was coming. Spags also doesn't get off easy here. As much as I love him, Steve needs chicken to make chicken salad. If you give him a defensive line, he will absolutely build a winning scheme around it. When he doesn't have the pass rushers, like here and his time in STL and NO, his defenses crumble and put up historically bad numbers. Perry Fewell was averaging 2 takeaways a game in 5 years as the DC, and giving that away for a nostaglic run with Steve was a HUGE mistake. People always used to joke that the Giants coddled Eli, and if anything, I think we all know that the truth is closer to the other way around.
How about 2017 ruining the giants? Make huge splash purchases for Olivier Vernon, Snacks Harrison, and Jackrabbit. Make it to a playoff game where we get blown out. If we hadn't splurged in FA, perhaps we have a worse record, and perhaps we are within striking distance of pick number 10 in the draft. I feel like someone pretty good went in that draft position in 2017. McAdoo reportedly was a fan of his.
The regime and McAdoo were a problem. Not in a good way. I have no confidence in them developing as Andy Reid has. McAdoo was a leech off the Aaron Rodgers teams and meshed decent in 2014-2015 but it was still Coughlin's offense. We saw his awful offense in 2016 and 2017 and Jerry Reese could never properly rebuild the line or provide a decent rushing game because of it.
As a long time giants fan, this is a great video. It is amazing to see the time and effort you put into finding what you believe is the root cause of the giants downfall. I blocked out that season for obvious reasons but you emphasized all the positive that was there. Mara really has put this team in a downward spiral.
can't believe the patriots let this kind of a team ruined their perfect season and beat them again in the super bowl 46! the giants truly are a bipolar team.
@ the difference is the patriots are rebuilding totally from scratch post Brady/Belichick era. Mediocrity in a proper way of saying it for the pats but the giants. What have they’ve been doing post Eli era???
10 year old me watching this team let Eli down again and again and again straight up gave me a donut addiction cause every time they choked another win away my parents bought me Dunkin’ Donuts to make me feel better. Thanks for making me relive this lmao
forgot to mention too 2017 after the good 2016 season ppl had them pinned as SB contenders only to fall to a 0-5 start and OBJ tore his acl and Eli got benched
Not just they were 1 score. If most of those games ended 20 seconds sooner they would have been in the playoffs. That Landon Collins pick drop still gets me. DRC had it..that season makes me sick
While other Giants seasons were just bad, the 2015 Giants were the masters of having the most infuriating losses in the NFL, even 1-15/0-16 browns fans feel sympathy for them Great vid btw 👍
I don’t think browns fans felt sympathy for anyone, they had their own problems lol, they were probably more worried about being a disaster of an organization 😂
My now wife and I were at that game in New Orleans in 2015 and I was dressed in a Captain America costume ( Halloween weekend) it was obvious right away the game was gonna be a shootout: Whoever had the ball last was going to win: like a madden game with a buddy back in high school. One of the only times after my team lost that I was unfazed by losing and thoroughly enjoyed the game , The Giants always had trouble with those Saints during the Drew Brees/Sean Payton era. Also shut out to Saints fans from being respectful and knowing their football and being so passionate and welcoming.
Listen to this The 2017 49ers were crazy -They started 0-9, -Had 5 games they lost by a posession or less. -They had 7 or 8 games they lost by 10 pts or less -Won their first game week 9 -Traded for Jimmy G, ended the season 5-0. -During the 5-game win streak, the 49ers won 3 straight games over teams that eventually made the playoffs They finished the season 6-10 - The 49ers also became the first team in NFL history to start a season 0-9 and finish with more than three wins. But the point is, if they win those games, 1 possesion games, they would have made the playoffs… Some of the Craziest shit I ever saw
It’s a wild to think that Giants vs Panthers was once an epic showdown and not a laughing stock game in another timezone that only the diehards and Europeans will watch
It’s been the same story for well over a decade now. Small mistakes mixed with overall poor play at times cost us multiple close games YEAR AFTER YEAR. Never good enough to make a playoff berth, and never trash enough to get undisputed studs in the top 3 picks of the draft
I know that this is on a much smaller scale and it was the Giants best season in over a decade, but i originally thought this vid was talking about 2022 when I first read the title. Daniel Jones’s only good season that led to the team paying him, causing them to be cheap with Saquon and let him go 2 years later, into the dumpster fire they are now
Eli against the Saints threw for 6 touchdowns and zero interceptions. He is the only QB to throw for 6tds and zero interceptions and lose! The Giants had the worst defence in the league!
This explains why they've been so hapless since Coughlin left. I live in NYC but I can't stand either football team. Just a bunch of failed, over-paid players. Thanks for this!! Good work!!
Great video! When I heard recently that Coughlin won't even discuss his days with the Giants, I knew something really terrible had gone down. The team hasn't been the same since and Mara has a lot to do with it. He needs to be like James Dolan and just hire the right people and stay out of the way!
Basically the front office also ruined Eli 2012-2016 windows.!!!! I just looked it up.. Eli had the 6th ranked offense in the league that 2015 season🫢🫢. But had the worst defense in the league 😔
This is a good video but for me personally the downfall began right after their SB win in 2011. 2012 was the last hurrah of the Giants team that had been so successful for the previous 7-8 years , with that season ending in a late collapse and it was all downhill from there. A lot of bad drafting from 2012-15 as well along with everything you mentioned
Coughlin I feel like is the biggest question mark for their future at that point in time. For all his greatness, you have to wonder if age would've caught up to him, mainly because of his 2nd stint in Jacksonville. He went from an authoritarian who demanded the best and got results into being a complete tyrant who single handedly accounted for a quarter of player complaints in the *entire* NFL. Was him being fired by New York a consequence of that? Maybe it hardened his heart again? Or did football just finally leave him behind? Maybe all staying in New York would've done was turned them from awful to mediocre, or maybe they could've gotten at least one more good run in. We'll never know I suppose, but there's a reason he hasn't came back after he returned to the Jags.
No they turned him into a scapegoat you can see they were competitive in 2015 but fell apart completely when he was gone turned this team into the laughing stock of the league
@chiapets2594 again, that is absolutely true, for New York, but refer back to his 2nd stint in Jacksonville. 1 quarter of all player complaints in the *entire league* belonged to Coughlin in Jacksonville, and he arguably is a major reason why Jacksonville's absolutely absurd defense disbanded just as ridiculously quick. Egos were all over the place and while Jacksonville absolutely needed a hardass alpha dog, Coughlin pushed it too far and made it so bad that the NFLPA itself recommended no one go to Jacksonville until he was fired or the culture changed. That's my point when I say that, he's a massive what if because how much of that was his age showing, versus his heart hardening after New York screwed him? It's a fascinating question to me.
Been a Giants fan all my life, those two championship runs and wins over the Pats, will keep me fed for the rest of my natural life come what may. I'm good.
FINALLY SOMEONE IS SAYING IT. IT ALL STARTED 2015.... THE UNRAVELING... Boat Trip, WR's with No shirts on before the game, the defense kept us in that playoff game... Offense has nothing going. The benching Eli, letting Coughling go. It all unravelled after that
The fact that the 2015 season was my first season being a Giants fan and watching football overall, is tough. I've never experienced a true winning culture and it's sad. Mishandling Tom Coughlin, Eli Manning, Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, and so many others. 10 seasons in and there is little to be excited about. I just hope the next 10 years and beyond they give us something better than whatever the past pathetic decade has given us.
As a Giants fan, I don't think I have, or ever will again witness a season so winnable become so far out of reach!! I cannot stand to watch this team anymore...
Hi everyone! I'm trying something new here, let me know what you think. And don't worry, a NASCAR video is on the way after Phoenix. Thanks for watching!
Edit: The overwhelming support for this video was unexpected. Thank you everyone. I am planning on expanding into football now so be on the lookout for a new video in the coming weeks.
Great video mate- well done
i Love this video this was amazing
Very good
I like what'cha did here. But I'm waiting for someone to break through internet memes in ways that affect the present before looking back at things in the past. It's _astounding_ how people are affected by these things. But I don't know what you do or don't know or how long you've been looking at NFL football. None of your other videos are on this subject.
first video of yours I saw. can't stand Nascar so I hope there's other vids too
Bench Jones
Also, that 2015 season was so frustrating to watch. They lost so many games by less than a score. And getting rid of Coughlin showed just how good of a coach he really was. We didn’t know how good we had it😩
Ugh I know how good we did. Fans like you though didn't and why we lost all we had and have garbage now
Na We knew how good we had it, the Organization got that Big Head and F'd Everything up. They are the ones that didn't know Once you got rid of Coughlin it was a wrap, New coach new philosophy
2024 and frankly Eli and Coughlin should STILL both be here. This would be a playoff team with them.
@@yepdontcarebudI agree, I've been saying that all along
@@chiapets2594fans like him ARENT why, he doesn’t order the firing or own the giants
It’s a shame what this team has become. Most young football fans nowadays see the giants as the way we used to see the lions and browns
The Redskins are like the Cowboys without the hopeful winning seasons lol. When I was kid we had one losing season from like 82 to 94. We haven't made a championship game nor 11 win season since before PlayStation started making consoles
@@Ultralightaman Washington clears 11 wins this year
@@Ultralightamanu guys look good this year
Naw the browns will always be the browns
@@Ultralightaman sorry buddy, but you’re Washington commanders are not very good. They’re not making a championship.😂
We went from all offense and no D to a good D and no offense 💀
They
Exactly. I hate this team sometimes
Yeahh that’s about right
@@TL2354 when being a supporter of a team, people use the word 'we.' Hope this helps 👍
Where is the good defense??
You know what killed Eli's career? The crappy O line and that went on for over a decade.
Also his own mediocrity.
@@rturner09251 Disillusionment would be a better word
@@rturner09251 He had career years in 14' and 15. The defense was the problem. Had they had a defense they easily would've made the playoffs.
In 16' they were average offensively but had a top 5 defense.
wasnt the line it was the coach who wanted Eli to be a west coast passer and made him think to much which resulted in Eli holding the ball way to long and then checking it down.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924you’re exactly right, Eli left the field practically every possession with a score to give the team the lead but the defense failed each time. All of our losses from like 14-16 were within a score and at the hand of last chance opportunities.
It’s also worth noting that Odell got suspended after the Panthers game and was unable to play the following week in what was basically an elimination game vs the Vikings.
We were already eliminated anyway
It’s really not worth nothing because we were 6-7 heading into that game and had the 3rd best record in that division. Even if Odell was available for Minnesota, we still lost to Philly so we still would’ve been 3rd
They were eliminated anyway
The panthers game WAS the elimination game. That late comeback was so close too. Still pains me 😢
@@thomasziccarello4411 Giants were officially eliminated when Washington beat Philly on the Saturday prior to the Giants/Vikings game on SNF. That Minnesota game on SNF was worthless.
Great work. I had forgotten about Coughlin snubbing Mara like that, and you're 100% right. to just the refusal to shake his hand, but the knowledge that whatever had taken place behind closed doors enraged Coughlin so much that he publicly dissed Mara showed us also that without Wellington, and without Accorsi, the team was rudderless.
As evidenced by all that has happened since.
2015 is one of the most frustrating seasons ever as a Giants fan. Watching the offense kick field goals in goal to go situations and having the defense give up every lead in the last 2 minutes of a game was unbearable to watch. Also losing Victor Cruz for 2 seasons was a big problem as well. And Rashad Jennings was a decent signing but we needed a better replacement for Bradshaw. Seemed like Jerry Reese couldn’t hit on any of his draft picks either during that time frame. Rueben randle was an ok WR, David Wilson retired early, Damontre Moore was immature, Landon Collins overrated, Eli Apple was a disaster, Ereck flowers was unplayable, and so on. The Giants from 2012-2018 failed Eli manning. He definitely had another run in him and he played some of his best football during those years and the Giants couldn’t get him any help. Sad to see coughlin be let go after winning two super bowls and sad to see Eli get benched by a head coach with little to no experience. Hopefully we can go back to the giants football we’re used to soon.
Yeah, it’s wild to imagine that 2015 season foreshadowed the Giants losing years coming up during that time!!!
2014-2018 literally took everything out of me as a Giants fan. Organizational failure from top to bottom. Cheap owner, mismanagement of injuries, horrible coaching staffs, overall could never get with the times. Everything that could go wrong went wrong.
This season especially was the worst of it. The Dallas game and the Patriots game still give me major ptsd. New Orleans game too from that stupid punt return (like we hadn’t learned from Desean Jackson). Easily could’ve had 4 wins if they remembered the basic fundamentals of football late in those games.
The 2016 season was such a fluke too. Moronically kept Reese after letting go of Coughlin. Ben Mcadoo and that whole team had no aura and the season ended distastorously. Set em back an additional few years.
The season of horrific endings, the next year the offense and defense swirched places.
@@franksamiel4476, honestly with the way the Mora and Coughlin parted ways after Coughlin left the Giants foreshadowed their downfall.
woah you had me until the landon collins take bro was an absolute dawg
Back when Donnell had about a 4 game stretch where he was a hall of famer, then disappeared
Man could've genuinely been an elite TE if he just knew how to secure the damn ball
@giantsknicksfan1427 wasn't he just clumsy as hell and fell down all the time and tore his ACL?
@@NYG5he would always do front flips when he got hit and kept fumbling the football.
Yeah remember him scoring 3 TD vs Wash. crazy
Great video. 2015 was definitely the most infuriating season as a Giants fan. It wasn't even the fact that Coughlin was let go. It was that they didn't get rid of Reese when it happened. Everyone on the coaching staff including the GM stayed. Imagine placing the entire blame on your future HOF Head Coach and not the GM? That's why we are what we are now.
Well Jones is why we are where we are
They, not we
That’s why John Mara is the absolute worst. All the good things that happened under him were a result of the foundation that his daddy built, as well as Ernie Accorsi
Yeah that season had me going mad! How you blame the season on the Hall Of Fame coach but let Reeses ass slide? He got too much credit for the Super Bowl wins when it was Ernie Accorsi who built that first team and the second was still a lot holdover from that first championship team but he definitely did contribute but that select the best player available mantra didn’t help us. Eli had enough to win one more!
@@tyrineterrell3656Reese rookie players did contribute to the first SB run imo. Boss, Steve Smith, Ross, Bradshaw, Alford.
As a Panthers fan you might not understand just how much I miss the early to mid 2010s. It was such a fun time to watch football for me.
@whoasked9500 I miss the mid-2010s. It was a fun time to root for and watch the Panthers. Panthers fans can only dream of success and fun in this decade.
The Panthers will beat New Jersey in Germany this weekend.
@@Mo-yd8xc Giants have superbowl wins. Panthers got jack.
@@71invictus what's that got to do with this Sunday morning? That being said...I'm a Giants fan. Have you seen them lately? What makes you think they can beat anyone. The QB, offense and coach Dabacle sucks.
@@DoubleHeader97 I'm a Giants fan and things are pretty bad for us too. This week we've got the Giants/Panthers coming up in Germany. I'm not sure who's going to win it but I could see either team coming away with a W. I wouldn't feel too bad about the Panthers though. You guys are going to be picking high in draft and things can change quickly if you get the right player.
Look at Washington, they swept the Giants this year after getting Drake Maye. I'm a lot more worried about the Giants future. We seem to mess everything up. Last year we were absolutely terrible but at least that would have gotten us a great spot in the draft to pick a QB. But then we end up winning 3 meaningless games in a row with Tommy "Cutletts" Devito. Now I really like Tommy and it would have been an amazing story if he went from the practice squad to our future QB. But those games put us just out of reach of the draft pick we needed.
In my opinion, we never should’ve let go of Tom Coughlin
The New York media is deadly and to blame!
thank you for including the music in the desc i was going insane not remembering where the COD sound was from
good video. one of the more overlooked what if's in recent sports. I'm sure coughlin looks back and is just glad he got out when he did.
Would've love to see Coughlin stay a bit longer. I think him and Eli had more left in the tank. Also I'm loving this channel as a Giants and NASCAR fan!
Same and steve spagnuolo literally one of our best defensive coaches i remember being so sad when he left now he thrives on the chiefs
Well now he’s with the Raiders
This is one of the best football videos I've ever watched. Entirely because I NEVER even knew about this, nor would've guessed it. This is exactly the kind of content that deserves to be the #1 trending video on the site.
I was at that pats heartbreaking loss, great video and keep up the good work man.
Think Plaxico Burress shooting himself in 2008 is a bigger what if scenario.
Great point, they were well on their way to a repeat right up until that moment
Absolutely. That 2008 team was better than either the 2007 or 2011 teams. They had beaten both eventual Super Bowl participants on the road.
GIANTS COULD HAVE BEEN A DYNASTY
That would’ve been the best Giants team ever.
I was so hyped on that team because I knew they had a legitimate shot to repeat. Then I came home one night and read the news and couldn't believe it, I knew it was over.
This is my first time seeing a video from you. And man, you're instantly my favorite sports youtuber period! There was a lot of work put into this video, and it was very informative and entertaining. I'm tired of seeing other creators that just do hot takes like ESPN, or provide bland commentary. I really appreciate you explaining the games with real insight. I'm subbed now!
That cod waw eviction music hits hard at the beginning
I always say this team fell apart when Coughlin departed. 2015 season kills me, I go back & rewatch the season highlights almost weekly 😭. 2012 as well... Thank you for this video!! If only the 2016 defense was on the 2015 team...
Great video, this was definitely one of the most frustrating years as a Giants fan. Coughlin's clock management that year was very questionable. When the Giants got into that shootout with the Saints I kept saying "let them score" so the GMen could get the ball back with time. Towards the end you suggested this was the biggest what-if season for the Giants, I actually think that distinction goes to the 2008 Giants who were rolling post-superbowl until Plaxico took out his own leg.
Great video! I loved the CoD WaW music in the background! I’m an Eagles fan, but yea, completely agree, the 2015 season was the absolute nail in the coffin for the Giants. Hasn’t been the same for that franchise and the fans have suffered since!
I think after the 2011 Super Bowl the demise began, little cracks in the foundation to start but that's all it takes to eventually bring the whole thing down. You can do a 5 hour documentary about the fall of the Giants and it be depressingly entertaining at all of the inepitude this franchise has reached and still sadly reaching for. Good stuff nonetheless.
I love the WaW music, it fits perfectly what 2015 was. This season is the reason I’m completely desensitized to losing in the worst ways. People don’t talk enough about that panthers game. Coulda been the greatest win in regular season history. Beckham that year was as good and Julio Jones and AB. And we will always love Eli and Coach Coughlin. Great video
That was the infamous brawl with Norman to. Man I wanted that win. Same with the Saints game. I remember our punter got called for a face mask that set up the winning kick.
looking back these older seasons were so much more eletric
Excellent take. And I have been saying this for years. Letting Coughlin go was a horrible move by John Mara.
But, he wanted to put his own "stamp" on the Giants. (Accorsi & Coughlin were his father's hires, and Reese was an Accorsi hire.).
John Mara has completely ruined this team. And I do not see him changing his ways OR selling the team.
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Giants fan here. Really enjoyed the video. Interesting take. Left a like
Man that 2015 season was when I first experienced what true heartbreak felt like lol
Lol hey at least your not a Jets fan it can be worse
Nice vid pal. Keep 'em coming! 👍
2016 was the last time it was fun to be a Giants fan. It’s just been pain ever since.
I’ve been a Giants fan for over 40 years. I was skeptical clicking on your video, but your analysis is spot on. The Giants forced Coughlin out thinking they were bringing in the next great offensive mind. The boat fiasco never would’ve happened under Coughlin, nor would the 2017 collapse. The Giants probably would’ve drafted a QB in 2018, or 2020. Oh, what might’ve been.
A very good historical point on the Giant Team Collapse.
I personally think the 2017 season was the one that destroyed the Giants, but 2015 was also a contributing factor for sure.
@@Ambivalence18 The game against the Panthers in 2015 and the playoff blowout against the Packers-both of which involved OBJ controversy-foreshadowed the disastrous 2017 season and beyond (minus the 2022 season).
That was the beginning of the end, but that could have happened after the 2012 season instead. Here's how: If Tony Romo didn't miss a wide open Miles Austin with 2:36 left in Dallas's Week 14 game (of the 2011 season) against the Giants (on Sunday Night Football), the Cowboys end up winning the division that year, and the Giants miss the playoffs (with no SB). Then, after they collapse in 2012 (after a 6-2 start), Coughlin is gone, and it's possible that Eli is as well.
Great Video - Thanks. It bring back memories of when the Giants had an explosive offense. Was nice to see Eli at the helm again and see the ball travel more than 5 yds in the air... Go Giants.
Incredible video man! Great work
Many have complimented the choice to use CoD music but I'd like to shout out the traditional irish catholic hymnal you used for sad violin music to signify the 3nd of the coughlin era. Canticle of the Turning. Love it.
That season we were 6th in scoring offense but 30th in scoring defense!!!!
The game against the Jets, I ripped out my Giants shirt in anger and complete frustration 😣. I’m so sick of losing, just sick of it !!!!!
Wow! Watching this video, I think what I miss most, besides Eli and OBJ is those passes downfield. Rarely seen in this days Giants offense.
@@MagSeven7 Especially in 2016, when majority of Eli’s touchdown passes went to OBJ.
You know what? This was a very good analysis of when it all started to go wrong. Great video 👍
The Call of Duty: World at War soundtrack was a nice touch for this video
Great video bro! As a diehard loyal giants fan this past decade has been rough, but the future is bright. Hoping we land a top 3 pick and finally get the right QB for the future. Cam Ward would be my personal choice but I trust daboll to develop a young QB. We have the d-line, o-line has improved, budding star WR, Tracy has shown rb1 potential, have to work on our secondary but look at Washington man! They were in a worse situation than us & look how finding the right quarterback changes everything. I’m hoping the same for my GMEN 🙏🏾
Wow. That is where the feeling I have every week watching the giants started. My dad died in 2014 and the old giants died with them. Been a tough 10 years since then.
Great video playa
I throughly enjoyed it
8:01 i already know the graham gano field goal that ruined my life i mark this as my most prominent giants memory in the past 10 years
Beckham vs Norman literally makes me happy everytime I watch it god I miss this team
There's alot of ingredients to this season: Firstly Tom Coughlin was indeed starting to age out of the job. As much as he gets this image of being a curmudgeon, Tom was always a fan of big offense and was a very modern thinker in the game, and that's why he was always one of the best on challenges. Tom is as good of an in-game coach as I've ever seen and when that started to slip in 2015, in addition to losing grip of special teams and uncharacteristically giving Odell cover in the press, I knew the end was coming. Spags also doesn't get off easy here. As much as I love him, Steve needs chicken to make chicken salad. If you give him a defensive line, he will absolutely build a winning scheme around it. When he doesn't have the pass rushers, like here and his time in STL and NO, his defenses crumble and put up historically bad numbers. Perry Fewell was averaging 2 takeaways a game in 5 years as the DC, and giving that away for a nostaglic run with Steve was a HUGE mistake. People always used to joke that the Giants coddled Eli, and if anything, I think we all know that the truth is closer to the other way around.
Great video dude. On point. Well done.
How trading your best player with a great attitude to your division rival for inexplicable reasons f***ed your team, fanbase, & ability to win
How about 2017 ruining the giants? Make huge splash purchases for Olivier Vernon, Snacks Harrison, and Jackrabbit. Make it to a playoff game where we get blown out. If we hadn't splurged in FA, perhaps we have a worse record, and perhaps we are within striking distance of pick number 10 in the draft. I feel like someone pretty good went in that draft position in 2017. McAdoo reportedly was a fan of his.
They, not we
The regime and McAdoo were a problem. Not in a good way. I have no confidence in them developing as Andy Reid has. McAdoo was a leech off the Aaron Rodgers teams and meshed decent in 2014-2015 but it was still Coughlin's offense. We saw his awful offense in 2016 and 2017 and Jerry Reese could never properly rebuild the line or provide a decent rushing game because of it.
As a long time giants fan, this is a great video. It is amazing to see the time and effort you put into finding what you believe is the root cause of the giants downfall. I blocked out that season for obvious reasons but you emphasized all the positive that was there. Mara really has put this team in a downward spiral.
I was at both the patriots and Panthers games both were so painful especially at 9 years old
can't believe the patriots let this kind of a team ruined their perfect season and beat them again in the super bowl 46! the giants truly are a bipolar team.
And now the Patriots are that kind of team. Mediocrity it happens to almost every team.
@ the difference is the patriots are rebuilding totally from scratch post Brady/Belichick era. Mediocrity in a proper way of saying it for the pats but the giants. What have they’ve been doing post Eli era???
10 year old me watching this team let Eli down again and again and again straight up gave me a donut addiction cause every time they choked another win away my parents bought me Dunkin’ Donuts to make me feel better. Thanks for making me relive this lmao
forgot to mention too 2017 after the good 2016 season ppl had them pinned as SB contenders only to fall to a 0-5 start and OBJ tore his acl and Eli got benched
Once coughlin left it was a done deal
The way they treated Coughlin was disgraceful.
Had forgot about that Panthers game. A game for the ages.
That jets game is one of my favorites. Great comeback from my squad.
Not just they were 1 score. If most of those games ended 20 seconds sooner they would have been in the playoffs. That Landon Collins pick drop still gets me. DRC had it..that season makes me sick
Great video bro, you earned a sub
love the music playing at 8:45
Your presentation is good. One thing I noticed is the music overlaps with your voice a little too much in parts.
As a Giants fan, I feel like Polonsky from COD WAW.
Pretty cool how you used WAW music as it's one of my favorite COD games.
As a long suffering Falcons fan it felt good seeing Ryan and Jones hook up once again.
While other Giants seasons were just bad, the 2015 Giants were the masters of having the most infuriating losses in the NFL, even 1-15/0-16 browns fans feel sympathy for them
Great vid btw 👍
I don’t think browns fans felt sympathy for anyone, they had their own problems lol, they were probably more worried about being a disaster of an organization 😂
My now wife and I were at that game in New Orleans in 2015 and I was dressed in a Captain America costume ( Halloween weekend) it was obvious right away the game was gonna be a shootout: Whoever had the ball last was going to win: like a madden game with a buddy back in high school.
One of the only times after my team lost that I was unfazed by losing and thoroughly enjoyed the game , The Giants always had trouble with those Saints during the Drew Brees/Sean Payton era. Also shut out to Saints fans from being respectful and knowing their football and being so passionate and welcoming.
From a Giants and NASCAR fan... loving the content.
I said it once I’ll say it again the reason why we suck is because of John Mara once he steps down as the owner we’ll be much better
Agreed
You never said it ever and they’ll be better, not we. You’re not on the team you loser
The CoD music really makes the video
Listen to this
The 2017 49ers were crazy
-They started 0-9,
-Had 5 games they lost by a posession or less.
-They had 7 or 8 games they lost by 10 pts or less
-Won their first game week 9
-Traded for Jimmy G,
ended the season 5-0.
-During the 5-game win streak, the 49ers won 3 straight games over teams that eventually made the playoffs
They finished the season 6-10
- The 49ers also became the first team in NFL history to start a season 0-9 and finish with more than three wins.
But the point is, if they win those games, 1 possesion games, they would have made the playoffs…
Some of the Craziest shit I ever saw
Thank you for calling Eli what he is, a hall of famer
It’s a wild to think that Giants vs Panthers was once an epic showdown and not a laughing stock game in another timezone that only the diehards and Europeans will watch
Great video... very well thought out
So many Giants fans deserve what is happening now due to how we treated eli and coach TC.
That CoD WAW soundtrack goes hard, excellent choice
It’s been the same story for well over a decade now. Small mistakes mixed with overall poor play at times cost us multiple close games YEAR AFTER YEAR. Never good enough to make a playoff berth, and never trash enough to get undisputed studs in the top 3 picks of the draft
Still can’t believe that Landon Collin’s play, that shit wasn’t incomplete.
Landon Collins* - the "S" is part of the name, no apostrophe
2015 was such a frustrating year since our offense was pretty good but our defense couldn’t stop anything
I was an Eli fan and hated seeing this happen to him.
I know that this is on a much smaller scale and it was the Giants best season in over a decade, but i originally thought this vid was talking about 2022 when I first read the title. Daniel Jones’s only good season that led to the team paying him, causing them to be cheap with Saquon and let him go 2 years later, into the dumpster fire they are now
Eli against the Saints threw for 6 touchdowns and zero interceptions. He is the only QB to throw for 6tds and zero interceptions and lose! The Giants had the worst defence in the league!
This explains why they've been so hapless since Coughlin left. I live in NYC but I can't stand either football team. Just a bunch of failed, over-paid players. Thanks for this!! Good work!!
Great video! When I heard recently that Coughlin won't even discuss his days with the Giants, I knew something really terrible had gone down. The team hasn't been the same since and Mara has a lot to do with it. He needs to be like James Dolan and just hire the right people and stay out of the way!
4:57 duel in the dome was prob one of my favorite games that I’ve actually sat down to watch outside of patriots games
Basically the front office also ruined Eli 2012-2016 windows.!!!! I just looked it up.. Eli had the 6th ranked offense in the league that 2015 season🫢🫢. But had the worst defense in the league 😔
If the defense was rank in the middle of the league. They could of made the playoffs
Great Video. Love the WAW music BTW
This is a good video but for me personally the downfall began right after their SB win in 2011. 2012 was the last hurrah of the Giants team that had been so successful for the previous 7-8 years , with that season ending in a late collapse and it was all downhill from there. A lot of bad drafting from 2012-15 as well along with everything you mentioned
Coughlin I feel like is the biggest question mark for their future at that point in time.
For all his greatness, you have to wonder if age would've caught up to him, mainly because of his 2nd stint in Jacksonville.
He went from an authoritarian who demanded the best and got results into being a complete tyrant who single handedly accounted for a quarter of player complaints in the *entire* NFL.
Was him being fired by New York a consequence of that? Maybe it hardened his heart again? Or did football just finally leave him behind? Maybe all staying in New York would've done was turned them from awful to mediocre, or maybe they could've gotten at least one more good run in.
We'll never know I suppose, but there's a reason he hasn't came back after he returned to the Jags.
No they turned him into a scapegoat you can see they were competitive in 2015 but fell apart completely when he was gone turned this team into the laughing stock of the league
@chiapets2594 again, that is absolutely true, for New York, but refer back to his 2nd stint in Jacksonville.
1 quarter of all player complaints in the *entire league* belonged to Coughlin in Jacksonville, and he arguably is a major reason why Jacksonville's absolutely absurd defense disbanded just as ridiculously quick.
Egos were all over the place and while Jacksonville absolutely needed a hardass alpha dog, Coughlin pushed it too far and made it so bad that the NFLPA itself recommended no one go to Jacksonville until he was fired or the culture changed.
That's my point when I say that, he's a massive what if because how much of that was his age showing, versus his heart hardening after New York screwed him? It's a fascinating question to me.
New York scapegoated their Superbowl Champion HC to go with Ben Mcadoo and we have been paying for it ever since.
"Missed a big shot to Odell" No, the ball hit OBJ dead ass center of his hands, he just didn't catch it.
3:24 edit this yourself? 😂
Nice video. Not sure what that TD you have OBJ scoring against Atlanta tho. His TD in that game was a catch in the endzone
Been a Giants fan all my life, those two championship runs and wins over the Pats, will keep me fed for the rest of my natural life come what may. I'm good.
FINALLY SOMEONE IS SAYING IT. IT ALL STARTED 2015.... THE UNRAVELING... Boat Trip, WR's with No shirts on before the game, the defense kept us in that playoff game... Offense has nothing going. The benching Eli, letting Coughling go. It all unravelled after that
The fact that the 2015 season was my first season being a Giants fan and watching football overall, is tough. I've never experienced a true winning culture and it's sad. Mishandling Tom Coughlin, Eli Manning, Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, and so many others. 10 seasons in and there is little to be excited about. I just hope the next 10 years and beyond they give us something better than whatever the past pathetic decade has given us.
Remember when we had Eli Manning, Odell Beckham AND Saquon Barkley?
Too bad the offensive line was still trash though so it didn’t matter
As a Giants fan, I don't think I have, or ever will again witness a season so winnable become so far out of reach!! I cannot stand to watch this team anymore...
Man I miss Eli 😢
11:03 ah, a fellow Utree viewer