10 Years of Blu-ray Collecting: How the Game Has Changed

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  • Опубліковано 2 гру 2024

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  • @ElliotCoen
    @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +16

    How do you feel about how blu-ray collecting has changed over the years? Have you noticed any changes in your own collecting habits? Please let me know in a comment!

  • @shmackatrotsky5394
    @shmackatrotsky5394 Місяць тому +14

    I enjoyed hearing more about Elliott's history of collecting. Here's a bit of mine: I was born in 1980, so I grew up with a modest VHS collection, which was sold or given away by my parents. In 2006, I started collecting DVD's and bought about 100 or so (I only collect my absolute all-time favorites). I then started collecting blurays in 2009, mostly studio releases, with a few boutiques. I got another 100 or so, then stopped for a long time. In 2020, I got a PS5 and discovered 4K blurays, got excited again about physical media, and bought about 100 4Ks, mixed with more blurays. It's been really fun, and I schlepped my collection with me across several moves, and am now in a more stable housing situation. Looking forward to continuing with it, but slowing down due to the cost. My most wanted discs are now mostly boutique 4Ks and hovering between $25-35. Now that I'm raising a child, I have less disposable income, in addition to inflation.

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +3

      Thanks for sharing your story!

  • @Johnny-kp9bj
    @Johnny-kp9bj Місяць тому +6

    Casually waving that OOP “The Fall”.
    I see you Elliot!

    • @artirony410
      @artirony410 7 днів тому

      he had to flex on us real quick

  • @brunomachado7279
    @brunomachado7279 Місяць тому +38

    I collect since VHS time. Physical media is almost dead here in Brazil, sadly. I have to import 4k discs, they're very expensive, so I must be selective. I can't afford buying or upgrading everything.

    • @kabhis2002
      @kabhis2002 Місяць тому +5

      I'm paying almost 60% in import duty and shipping. If that was not the case i would be buying more

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +5

      I’m very sorry to hear how expensive it is to collect in Brazil!

    • @brunomachado7279
      @brunomachado7279 Місяць тому +3

      @@ElliotCoen Indeed, Elliot. For instance, Agnes Varda collection costs more than a refrigerator! 😂😂

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +3

      @@brunomachado7279wow 😅

    • @dimitriseuthimiou9208
      @dimitriseuthimiou9208 Місяць тому +3

      Ahh the same applies for Greece. The only big retailer stopped selling films completely and after the brexit it doesnt make sense money wise to opt for discs unfortunately

  • @prayerposition1
    @prayerposition1 Місяць тому +19

    Great video! More of this please. My collecting journey is similar to yours. Started with dvds in the early 2000s and then stopped for a while before going all in on Blu-ray. Studio titles mostly and now pretty much only 4K and boutique stuff. Definitely agree with you on the cost aspect. The prices are getting way out of hand. Especially for us outside of the US and the UK (Sweden in my case). Our options are so slim over here that I have to import a lot which gets crazy expensive. So just like you mentioned, one has to be more selective these days.
    Keep up the good work, cheers!

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +4

      @@prayerposition1 I visited Malmö years ago and I couldn’t find anywhere that sold a Blu-ray! It’s a shame but at least we do have the option of importing even though it’s expensive

    • @svabosvabo3257
      @svabosvabo3257 Місяць тому +1

      Hey, I am basically in the same boat here in Germany. For a few months now, I have switched to ordering from iMusic in Denmark when I want titles from different UK labels. They get most new titles from Radiance and Arrow for example and they have free shipping for orders over 50€. When I preordered the The Hitcher 4k from Second Sight directly it cost me 75 bucks all in, with shipping & taxes. iMusic had the Boxset for a bit over 60... It is not always cheaper, especially when it comes to US labels like KL and Vinegar Syndrome. But at least they carry some of those too.
      And I personally like that they charge you only when the order has shipped (which may or may not have resulted in me preordering too much).
      Maybe this might be an option for you. Cheers!

    • @prayerposition1
      @prayerposition1 Місяць тому

      @@svabosvabo3257 thanks for the suggestion! I have heard about iMusic but haven’t ordered from them yet. Might give that a try!

    • @home4810
      @home4810 Місяць тому

      Svenska kronan är låg nu med , tycker man kan fynda rätt ofta på cdon , dok är deras sida helt off nu i o med att hitta saker

  • @halcyondaystunes
    @halcyondaystunes Місяць тому +4

    Another great video Elliot, prices these days don't really shock me when your 50 years old and have collected Laserdiscs back in the day, those were some seriously expensive releases , especially being in the UK and having to import them(illegally I might add) it's nothing like these days where you can import easily 🫣
    more of this type of content would be great.
    Watching your videos always seems to relax me so getting more is definitely a good thing.
    I also play a game when watching sometimes, seeing if I can spot any of my collection in yours behind you or just releases I recognise even though it's blurred 😂
    Looking forward to the next video mate.😊

  • @charlieroome5220
    @charlieroome5220 Місяць тому +6

    The good old days of 5 for £30… this was a fantastic video we’ve had very similar experiences with collecting physical media. I would love to see more in this style especially what you think the future holds.

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks, Charlie, I’ll make some more like this!

  • @TheEverythingBagel
    @TheEverythingBagel Місяць тому +3

    So excited to join the world of physical media collecting in 2024. Trying to limit myself to only criterion and select 4K discs in order to maintain some restrictions on my spending and take my time choosing which films are most worth it. Thank you for being a guide to those new to the hobby!

  • @Veniceredmask01
    @Veniceredmask01 Місяць тому +7

    I remember getting ex video shop movies coming out before general release. Robocop and Predator were £80 EACH!

  • @MichaelLopresto
    @MichaelLopresto Місяць тому +2

    I loved this video. Great discussion. It's always interesting to hear someone's collecting journey described in an elloquent manner. Thanks Elliot.

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому

      Thank you for the kind words, Michael!

  • @profondorostock
    @profondorostock Місяць тому +2

    This is very good, Elliot. It works for you in a big way.

  • @SpaceCattttt
    @SpaceCattttt Місяць тому +1

    Well, I'm quite a bit older than you, so I've been collecting for far longer than you have as well. And yet, I've never amassed a huge collection like yours.
    I had a few hundred DVDs which I then sold to upgrade to Blu-ray. And then I had a few hundred Blu-rays that I sold because I was broke and I didn't
    have the space to store them all. And now, after 10 years of not buying anything, I've started collecting again because there doesn't seem to be anything
    that will ever replace 4K discs in the very distant future, so it feels like a good time to start again. Plus that boutique Blu-rays are NICE.

  • @ndevanko
    @ndevanko 9 днів тому

    Hi Elliot
    I followed kind of the same way as you for 20 years, but regarding the rising prices of recent releases and disney politic regarding physical media, and also technology progresses, I realized that keeping a huge physical media collection was kind of a waste of money. So, even if I dreamt at least half of a nice movieshelf as you do, I sold all my blurays, 4K and DVD, some of which I didn't even got out of blister and decided to go full iTunes.
    That allowed me to buy again the movies I really wanted to discover or rediscover, and buy lots of new ones too. Just add to wait for the movies to go to promo and buy them for around 5$. I know I don't really "own" them, but I can watch them on many devices, share them with close family even if they're not home, they don't collect dust, and I can rent a movie if I'm not sure it deserves to be bought.
    About the 4k part, I don't care about a recent movie in high def or 4k, but a 4k restoration of a classic movie, THAT is a great thing (Warner is particularly good at it). So good to be able to share with children my youth preferred movie but in a quality that lets them think it's a new one, or at least not the opposite, Hitchcock's one for instance.

  • @u77750
    @u77750 Місяць тому +2

    You hit the nail on the head right away. I wish I had an HMV type of store to go into and buy a few titles at a time like I used to. I’ve decided to spend the money on Criterion and Arrow as opposed to Kino and the others. I feel they are over priced and don’t give the bang for the buck. I get deals from GRUV for Warner and Universal.

  • @JTATTHEMOVIES
    @JTATTHEMOVIES Місяць тому +1

    Enjoyed this mate!

  • @DamienTalksMoney
    @DamienTalksMoney Місяць тому +1

    Loved this video

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +1

      Legend. Cheers mate, hope you're well!

  • @JRCSalter
    @JRCSalter Місяць тому +1

    With regards to the price issue, it is expensive to get many of the boutique releases, but you can pick up many others for virtually nothing if you buy second hand. I'm doing this for many films that I'd like to check out, but don't feel are special enough to spend too much money on. I'm actually thinking of buying one of those joblots you find on ebay, 100 DVDs for £8 or something, and see what I get. I'm sure I'll get something worth it.

  • @MyFireVideos
    @MyFireVideos Місяць тому +2

    Great Video, Elliot!

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому +1

      @@MyFireVideos thanks so much!

  • @tompoynton
    @tompoynton Місяць тому +2

    The first DVD I ever bought was the 2-disc Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones and it cost me £25 in 2002!

  • @mmayfield37
    @mmayfield37 Місяць тому

    Thanks for sharing your experience with collecting physical media. I really enjoy your videos and thoughts about film. I'm an older collector, from VHS to 4K, and I love how the technology has changed in my viewing experience. I recently was able to upgrade my TV and get a 50 inch 4K along with a Sony 4K player. The change in resolution was mind blowing to me! The wider range of colors, better sound have me rewatching several of my favorite films just to enjoy the upgrade in quality. My major complaint is with the limited number of titles released and I'm still waiting on several of the films I own on DVD to at least get a blu-ray upgrade, let alone 4K. I'm anxious for A Simple Plan to hit 4K/blu-ray, a brilliant film that I still have on DVD. I love Asian cinema, I want an upgrade for John Woo's classic films: A Better Tomorrow 1 & 2, The Killer, Hard-Boiled and Bullet in the Head. I have all of these on DVD but anxiously awaiting the day these films get a much deserved upgrade. There remains a ton of films that have yet to get a good blu-ray, let alone 4K. I think there are more movies to enjoy if you look into DVD. I don't think you should limit the ways to watch a movie by just going all in on an exclusive format/streaming. I like having the variety of films to pick through at home, just would love to see important titles get an upgrade.

  • @khalidjmi
    @khalidjmi 26 днів тому

    In India, any kind of physical media has been stopped for the last 2-3 yrs. Sad that even big movies are not released.

  • @plan9fromthenw
    @plan9fromthenw Місяць тому +1

    I took a long break from film purchases and thinned down my collection while collecting music on vinyl and CD. I needed to take a break from that and was shocked at some of the prices for movies now. The boutique market is making some fantastic releases and with the 4k scans and forgotten movies hitting the market, I don't mind putting up a little more money for this. And yes, I have to be more selective now and constantly curate my collection to keep the releases I love and make some money back to buy something new. I wish more people were into keeping physical media alive but it is what it is.

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому

      @@plan9fromthenw thanks for sharing about your own journey with collecting!

  • @YellowfinGrouper
    @YellowfinGrouper Місяць тому +1

    I never liked so many titles for £30 deals. I usually want one specific title at a time.

  • @angermanagementstudios
    @angermanagementstudios Місяць тому +1

    Still own all my dvd’s, blurays and cd’s and vinyls. I don’t stream (UA-cam notwithstanding). No one can take them away from me, cut politically incorrect bits out or suddenly hike the sub price by 30 quid. Physical media rules.

  • @KirkRedgate
    @KirkRedgate Місяць тому +1

    It’s interesting to see how others got into film. I was interested in filmmaking in 1998 and started collecting DVDs. It’s been a long time. Spine numbers or labels never meant anything to me. I collect films I like and that’s it. I don’t need filler on my shelves, and prices now are insane. Especially when importing from the US. They get UK imports for the same price from places like Diabolik, I don’t understand that. Why we get robbed etc. I’m selective on what I purchase, but by the end of this year I would’ve spent way too much.

  • @RiderRated18
    @RiderRated18 Місяць тому

    2001 was when I started buying my own movies, DVD was king at this point and I was fully focused on getting all the movies I loved. By 2012 I started delving into Blu-ray which extended the collection by me trying out established films that I still hadn’t seen…..and then I discovered Arrow Video in late 2013 which just broadened my curiosity. So like you Elliott, I got the boutique Blu-ray bug as well and my collection has probably trebled over the last 10 years or so. This year I’ve been fully focused on upgrading older DVD’s to newer and better releases but I’ve still kept some of those older releases like some of the old 2 Disc special edition DVD’s as well as keeping films on DVD that haven’t been reissued. So my collection is in a good place right now and I’m fully content to now only buy one movie at a time…. rather than buying 6 or 7 at a time like a use to 🙂

  • @Terry.W
    @Terry.W Місяць тому +1

    Great video I enjoy collecting and say I will stop and then The Great Escape is released on 4 K ...and soon my favourite movie Amadeus is being released on 4K ..so here we go again..

  • @VengaboysRbackINtown
    @VengaboysRbackINtown Місяць тому

    You’ve just reminded me of the HMV 6 for £30 deal. I’d forgotten about that but how I miss it that you’ve reminded me. 😂 It’s probably a reason why I don’t collect much physical media now…it’s just so expensive.
    Oh and HMV used to stock Eureka products too! I wish I could go back. 😒

  • @stuartobrien78
    @stuartobrien78 Місяць тому

    I started my physical media collecting in 2007,and bought the Val Lewton Horror collection on dvd. At the time I wanted Cat People 1942.

  • @Rhiunlol
    @Rhiunlol Місяць тому +2

    I got into collecting, in a minor scale in comparison to most of you I'm sure, about a year ago. I wish I was there for the £30 for 5 discs. When I saw Indicator had their 3 for £15 sale on, I went a bit nuts and bought something like 21 titles. It's too pricey to buy impulsively, I want for the sales and pounce!

  • @YellowfinGrouper
    @YellowfinGrouper Місяць тому

    I got into collecting DVDs because of my fandom of 60s and 70s tv shows. I collect movies too but tv series is my main passion.

  • @Harjawaldar
    @Harjawaldar Місяць тому

    Changes I've noticed:
    - Almost no stores, so it's online shopping
    - Lots of quality stuff being made now! blurays look great compared to the first releases, and 4ks are mostly amazing.
    - Prices are rising, and sometimes to ridiculous heights (US import Caligula for 100 USD in Norway).

  • @jamieellul6331
    @jamieellul6331 Місяць тому +1

    Lovely talk Elliot

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому

      @@jamieellul6331 thanks for listening!

    • @jamieellul6331
      @jamieellul6331 Місяць тому

      @@ElliotCoen Was a Michael Bartlett suggestion on his channel. Has been interesting going few your stuff these last few days. Your terrain is pretty vast.

  • @FilmBloggerSam
    @FilmBloggerSam Місяць тому +1

    Great video pal! Times certainly have changed, unfortunately the LE model will become more prevalent, but i understand from a business point of view, they are not charities after all. Cheers

    • @ElliotCoen
      @ElliotCoen  Місяць тому

      Cheers Sam hope you’re well!

  • @stephens4175
    @stephens4175 22 дні тому

    I pick up DVD's and Blue Rays still, not into the 4K unless it has a Blue Ray included I can't find anywhere, I buy used mostly , keeps the cost down , but also find way more stuff I love or loved that didn't make it anywhere past those formats, the Blue Ray is clear enough for me and I don't need much more than that, just want the films and shows I loved and some I never saw before but were out the past 40 years or so.

  • @juancmorenor
    @juancmorenor Місяць тому

    It is crazy, there is a lot of a good physical media out and one must be very selective. Sometimes , it is irresistible to get limited editions which are quite expensive!!

  • @dombrown-tz3zu
    @dombrown-tz3zu Місяць тому

    In the 90s I collected videos, in the 00s I amassed a huge DVD collection, even worked at hmv and used and abused the discount. Then came the bluray, then the 4k. Dvds when the 1st arrived were around £20, and bluray was even more when it came around in 2008. Add inflation and yeah i can see why a new 4k can cost even more. But yeah it’s all too much now I’ve reigned in my haulage. 👍

  • @Alleexx01
    @Alleexx01 Місяць тому

    Looking for that Niagara title for ages now ! :)

  • @richardburt1679
    @richardburt1679 Місяць тому

    I also started out collecting Masters of Cinema which were at the time excellent but in the last years have specialised in martial arts and silent comedy which I don't like but 5here are other boutique labels,of course,Indicator is particularly good for classic film and Radiance.But the best label for classics,American and international,remains Criterion,no other label could compete with their releases for this year,in particular the next two months.Their British releases are competitively priced although it remains an expensive option to import them although if you wait some like the 4k Lost Highway is getting a release here and I hope Pat Garrett will follow.

  • @Novak000
    @Novak000 Місяць тому

    These thrifting videos are so relaxing my favorite

  • @johnscott4385
    @johnscott4385 Місяць тому

    I enjoyed the discussion.

  • @maartenlemmens8628
    @maartenlemmens8628 Місяць тому +3

    I m old enough to remember the introduction of vhs cassettes. 👴 they were very expensive, quality was lousy , but they flew of the shelves.
    Dvd was a big improvement and now bluray is even better. Dozens of titles get released every week, so right now it,s good to be a collector imho. That some studios just want to stream films is a bad thing; it limits choice and forget about extra's. So may physical media stay around for many years to come.

  • @stuartobrien78
    @stuartobrien78 Місяць тому

    Obscure, I'm thinking of Vinegar Syndromes the Boogeyman 1980 John Carradine.

  • @farmasingh
    @farmasingh Місяць тому +1

    Just recently, I've traded in my ps5 and invested in a 4k multi region player, and I've noticed a difference. I'm pretty proud of that decision. I've been enjoying your channel, I don't necessarily buy the movies you recommend, but I do come out knowing more about other kinds of movies that are out there.

    • @eksora
      @eksora Місяць тому +1

      Which multi region player did you get?

    • @farmasingh
      @farmasingh Місяць тому

      @@eksora Panasonic DP-UB450 MULTIREGION over at amazon, plays both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision.

    • @farmasingh
      @farmasingh Місяць тому +1

      ​@eksora a Panasonic DP-UB450 on amazon, plays in both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. My TV is only capable in HDR10+ though, that's why I chose that player.

  • @yobgol
    @yobgol Місяць тому

    what's the pool of films "they" would want to release from? there's very little evidence to support existence of a knowledge within labels willing to continually explore what could be released, film companies entirely + reliably forthcoming with providing access to it, or desire from buyers to have it to the extent films have been made. japan alone has been so prolific, self-supporting, that it's factually a never-ending supply that is (will remain) predominantly unknown outside it, and impossible and unnecessary to accommodate entirely even within its own borders as it's relentlessly moving on to the new. hundreds of films a year, for a century - who has the time or inclination?!

  • @gratefulblac
    @gratefulblac 25 днів тому

    Gets to a point when I say no - £60 for The Conversation; £50 for the Third Man - pop up or no pop up - its just a rip off Studiocanal + (or -).