@@randomrazr Pearl Harbor - 2001, Affleck, Hartnett, and Beckinsale. While there are some good scenes, it's less a war movie and more a melodramatic love triangle with a war playing in the background and it's way to long. The more recent Midway is a better movie in my opinion.
@@freddyg1769 Who? Admiral Yamamoto? You had to understand he was under pressure because the navy ministry was being pressured by prime minister and general Hideki Tojo. The then ex-Prime Minister Konoe Fumimaro already lost the way to contain the Land Army as they already occupied majority of the cabinet, even the Navy Ministry is filled with pro army people with Adminral Yamamoto as Vice minister of the Navy becoming the only one inside the navy ministry that opposes the war, the only allies he had (during this time) outside the ministry is Shigenori Togo the Foreign minister. So in this backdrop do you know what Yamamoto did? He become the commander of the combined fleet to escape assassination from the pro-army people (people who support Togo). Outside of all of this, Keisuke Okada the old ex-Prime Minister and Ex-Navy Minister, to somehow expel Togo and their cronies from the cabinet. as to help Yamamoto for being able to return to the mainland as the Cabinet member (which he half failed since later Yamamoto died in air battle), but succeeded kicking Togo and their pro war cronies out of cabinet in 1944, after this Shigenori Togo pushed for surrender with the Allies, it didn't work really well, until Konoe Fumimaro met with the Emperor and the Emperor still fond of the army, reject it but will think about it. After all of this, there are shift in the direction of the war, 6 people are appointed by the emperor to direct the war while also prevent the collapse of the government because now the anti war faction has grown large enough to destabilize the cabinet. the composition of the member is 2 pro war and 4 anti war Prime Minister, Admiral Kantaro Suzuki (Anti War) Minister of Foreign Affairs Shigenori Togo (Anti War) Minister of the Army, General Korechika Amami (Pro War) Minister of the Navy, Admiral Mitsumasa Yonai (Anti War) Chief of the Army General Staff, General Yoshijiro Umezu (Pro War) Chief of the Navy General Staff, Admiral Koshiro Oikawa (Anti War) later replaced with Admiral Suemu Toyoda (Anti War) Do you notice something? Each and every Navy Admirals was anti war the same as Yamamoto, but he was pushed around by the now Ex-Prime Minister Hideki Tojo with the blessing of the Emperor, since they are already in deep trouble, they can't pull out. They had to clean the crap The Army created, they were pushed to war not because they choose to go to war, but because The Army is filled with people who can't think really far, yet people from the army managed to occupy several strategic Cabinet Position, including the position of Prime Minister, as if it's not enough, The Emperor had a falling out with Ex-Prime Minister Konoe Fumimaro and become to trust Prime Minister Hideki Tojo for everything that is war related. Yamamoto know if he just followed the direction of the Army, the Navy will just slaughtered wholesale, so he had to do the attack on Hawaii or the southern force will be a failure of humongous proportion with the death of Japanese Conscript in a Hundred of thousands. The Navy, or in this case, Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, can be said a victim of circumstances, he can not quit or be passive or he will be eliminated or assassinated by the army, not only that, if he did nothing the army will just do more stupid war plan and kill more soldier in a stupid decision. He had to do something.
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@@adri2shadow If I remember right Yamamoto was several times in the United States. He even studied at the Harvard University in the 1920s and he served as naval attaché in Washington, D.C while also traveling trough the United States and learning about the customs and business. He both opposed the war against China and later against the United States. So yeah, he definetly had a good idea of the potential the US had and knew Japan could never win in a prolonged war with the United States.
Billy Mitchell was brash and opinionated, but in 1925, he correctly predicted that the Japanese would attack Pearl. That's right, 99 years ago he wrote a book and described how it would be carried out.
The Japanese saw the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm attack at Taranto in Nov 1940 where the Italian Navy sustained serious damage in its anchorage as clear proof that the Pearl Harbor attack could succeed.
Amazing unless you read that how he actually saw Pearl Harbor being attacked by Land planes and he thought carriers lacked ability. But go ahead and keep calling him a visionary while literally having zero knowledge of his actual writings outside what other people quite while omitting a bunch. So yes, he predicted it but no it didn't happen at all like he thought
What Japan pulled off in Pearl Harbour was impossible for any other Power (of that time) except maybe the British. The daring, the planning- coordination -execution, the secrecy, the surprise element, the scale of the operation-were all unprecedented...
Japan themselves learned from the British that air attack on ships in port was possible. They had observers in Italy inspecting the damage done after the raid on Taranto.
Lol the Brits😂😂😂😂 Dunkirk says Hi... If there was no commonwealth soldiers for them to fight during the Africa campaign and European theatre, they're history.. your Queens and Kings will be shitting in their pants..
@@advamalstanly2928 Atleast British are lot better than US (given how small the country is). Let's talk about the US. They entered WWI- 3 years AFTER it started. And WW II again 3 years after it started (and was busy--shamelessly doing ugly business making profit through lend-lease, when countries in Europe were fighting for survival). Such cowardice is nowhere seen in history. Dunkirk? Well what about the Battle of Britain? BTW I'm not British.
The espionage operation done by the Japanese was elaborate and well-thought out. Although they didn’t properly estimate the consequences, they had the sophistication to establish a proper attack with assistance from their network of spies. Sun Tzu said that spies are one of the most important tools of any general. It remains the same here- the battle of the mind is the most important.
@@timothydavidcurpWell, for one they weren’t aiming for only US battleships, they were also aiming for other craft such as carriers. At the time, it was believed that battleships were still a critical part of any fleet- that would change as later in the war, ships like the Bismarck and Yamato were sunk by torpedo bombers. I’m inclined to believe that the Japanese probably did aim for fuel depots as well- they took much inspiration from the prior attack on Taranto, Italy by British Swordfish torpedo bombers, in which the British not only targeted Regia Marina warships but also fuel depots.
@@tektoastium7241 it just seems, given the difficulties of building up a significant supply of fuel at Perl Harbor, that the fuel dumps should have been the highest priority - and then the carriers and other ships... I have to wonder if there wasn't just a certain amount of bravado/going for the most decorated scalp at work, rather than a more methodical approach to war making?
One thing that is very overlooked in history is the espionage and counter-insurgency abilities of Imperial Japan. There is a reason why every Korean who went to Nakano Academy made it to very high positions in ROK intel and military, and it isn't because they were "installed". It was through merit.
It’s wasn’t breaking the 4th wall. That general was very on record about not wanting Japan to attack and piss off the sleeping giant that was the US. They ignored him and, essentially, sent him and his men on a suicide mission to Pearl Harbor. Pretty sure he committed suicide close to the end of the war.
Fun fact: The founder of Reiki moved from Japan to Hawaii. The Japanese government asked him to take photos of Pearl Harbor. When he refused, they called him a traitor to his country. He was obligated to ritual suicide.
Theres something just so badass to me thinking about the japanese leadership, high on victory, stand around congratulating eachother while Yamamoto stands in silent dread realizing that while the attack was a success, the carriers had been away and would be instrumental in avenging what was done there.
Carriers still weren't thought of as being as essential as battleships. The Japanese also missed the oil tanks. Hitting those would have really set the fleet back.
@@dixievfd55 They missed the oil tanks? Were they on the attack list? Were they to be attacked in the third wave that never came? Oil tanks are very difficult, if attacked, to "miss".
@@dixievfd55 They didn't bomb the oil tanks because they thought that the US had so much oil it wouldn't make any difference. The truth is that the US did have the oil, but if they blew the tanks, then there sure wouldn't be any at Pearl.
I think this scene did a disservice to admiral yamamoto. I understand the purpose of this movie was for American propaganda purposes so kind of simplified who he is. He actually was very aware that going to war with america was suicide. He went to Harvard and was keenly aware of American infrastructure and capability to wage war. but he decided to fight this way anyway to raise the chances of being able to win. As a Korean American though thank God Japan lost because they were doing some heinous things all over Asia
very true. The Things that they did to the Chinese with the rape of Nanking and Japan doing terrible things to Korean women with the comfort wives also was sad.
Yamamoto also fought at Tsushima straits against the Russian navy, where, mind you, the Japanese won; the Japanese actually thought they'd be able to claim most, if not all, of South East Asia after Pearl, figuring that it would take too long for the American Pacific Navy to return to strength to challenge Japanese supremacy.
@@woodwyrm And when the challenge inevitably came Yamamoto hoped to initiate another Tsushima, to eviscerate the carriers and whatever survived Pearl Harbor-unfortunately for him, Joseph Rochefort and co. were reading his mail before even Yamamoto got it.
Omg that pissed me off so much! They could have used any stock footage of a ww2 Japanese carrier, but they decided to get footage of a modern American carrier group 🤦♂️
The fact is they where actually converted cargo ships retro fitted to hold places and personnel for war. They wernt built for war the original ships, but Japan new they needed carrier and carriers quick hence the rero fitting if simple cargo ships to become and instrument of war. They had 9 carriers but I think they knew they needed more and four where converted, by the start the pearl harbour attack. Japan had the largest carrier fleet in the workd
I've not seen this movie from beginning to end but my gosh, it's so beautifully shot. From the fading of all the names with the camera to focus on the one the actor is talking about, to the contrast on all the technology of both sides. Brilliant work!
i love the logistics, planning, and training required to undertake massive operations like this that results in overwhelming success. Same can be said with the first 24 hours of Desert Storm's air campaign and Operation Uppercut.
that's why tora tora tora is the best. told from both american and japanese perspectives. directed by both american and japanese directors. factual telling of events.
@@babayaga1767 Tora Tora Tora is also more historically accurate with the ship models it uses. Its not perfect but at least you dont have modern FFG's and Nuclear carriers present in the film.
It's crazy the amount of intelligence the Japanese had on Pearl Harbor. With everything that is happening with China I can't help but think of this movie and wonder if history is bound to repeat itself. China seems to be another pre World War II Japan. One would hope we learned our lesson.
Actually you are not that far off. P.R.China today is using its softpower to use chinese diasporas in Southeast Asia and United States either as spies or at least supporting their cause.
I would have agreed with you pre-Obama, but if China Pearl Harbored us today, half the country would scream it was our own fault for not using the proper pronouns and that we needed to surrender.
That camera is a special edition product requested by japanese government..... as legend said: a secret society gathered to made that request.....the holy grail of camera Kids nowadays know them as sony, nikon, canon, fujifilm, panasonic, olympus, ricoh
The scenes of the American Navy officers trying to determine the Japanese movements are well done. I love scenes where puzzle pieces are more or less being put together to figure out what is going on. It really is a shame we underestimated the Japanese so much.
The ships at 3:57 look pretty modern as well, and the carriers in the background look like they copy-pasted it five times (at least they got the number of carriers right)
each general was the grandson generation of the last generation of the tokugawa shogunate. the generals had no knowledge of rational judgments and logic thinking. people outside of japan took it granted that "a heavyweight person is superior to a lightweight person in a judo match". the generals had believed that even "a japanese lightweight person can beat an american heavyweight person" because they seriously believed that japan was a nation of emperors with divine wind (kami kaze).
that fleet shot made me laugh and think "well if that had been the force striking out at Pearl Harbor the war would have taken an entirely different course!" :D
It was pretty clever that they attacked on an early Sunday morning. The reason? Saturday night, everyone would be out late getting wasted, partying, and having Saturday night fun. You get them early Sunday morning when they are all still asleep and hungover, rendering their ability to fight back virtually useless, and you also have the element of surprise. The Japanese knew what they were doing.
@@heitor5784actually if equipped with the same level of technology and economy the ww2 japanese would do in the war far far better than the yankees and their oil wars..you see it is all started when US wanted to play with oil...you don't want other nation going higher above you..we asians know we are capable to outsmart you just like in attack of the pearl harbour...we could make the world better with our bigger brain and calmer nature...
Japan now faces its most challenging opponent yet, the industrial Juggernaut of America shakes off the rubble of the civil war and its war machine roars back to life
@@sallmandar1027 Definitely. He said they couldn't defeat the US in a long way. They thought and hoped our Aircraft Carriers would be at Pearl Harbor, but they weren't. Thankfully. We couldn't afford to lose those carriers.
If only Bay ditched the romance plot and focus on history, people will remember this movie more fondly. Instead of 2 fictional characters with vapid romance bull, make Affleck and Hartnett actually play George Welch and Kenneth Taylor
yeah i know. he was consulted in the 1970 movie Tora Tora Tora, but not for 2001 Pearl Harbor. what i meant is Bay should have grind his teeth and make it a fully fledged Tora Tora Tora reboot@@raymondyee2008
@@raymondyee2008Yep and due to it being historically inaccurate and the romance subplot with it. If the movie had more historically accurate props, storytelling and everything else, it would be remembered more fondly like what OP said.
From what I had read, Bay didn't want the romance plot. He had wanted to remake Tora Tora Tora with modern CGI, and had threatened to leave production at a couple points. While he wouldn't have been anywhere near historically accurate (and had way more fun with explosions as Bay tends to do), apparently the whole romance plot was a Bruckheimer thing. The fact that the best scenes are the ones that have actual historical figures, such as Yamamoto, Roosevelt, Doolittle, and even Petty Offiicer Doris Miller (as portrayed by Cuba Gooding Jr), are proof of this. I feel like this movie could do well to have a Phantom Edit where all the scenes with made up characters (other than the Doolittle Raid, and even then focus entirely on Baldwin there) are completely scrubbed from the movie. Would be short and still have glaring inaccuracies, but would be a much better movie overall.
I don't think that's true at all, there's a reason films like this do so well and it's basically it's not solely based on the historical stuff. Titanic for example, Saving Private Ryan. The romantic subplot draws casuals in and makes the film bigger, now that's not the case all the time but pearl harbor is a bigger movie for the romantic stuff. Now is that the case all the time? No of course not but most of the time yes.
I remember this movie when it first came out in theatres when I lived In Hawaii. It was NOt well received at first. But, its one of those that just "grows" on you over time, and I believe, not for certain, that it did quite well financially over the Long run
Nah, the movie overall is still trash because of what was already mentioned - the love triangle. If that was taken out and it was just a war movie, it would have been brilliant. The shame of that is that you COULD take out all of that stuff and still have a feature length film 😂 The movie is 'Pearl Harbor' for those who are asking. Came out in 2001.
omitted here is the reason why the US sanctioned Japan. it makes it seem that the USA is the aggressor. when in fact the Japanese had since 1937 been attacking China and committing genocides
8:33 one of my favorite details from this film is when the major mispronounced "Haleiwa." he switched the I and the E to pronounce it "Haliewa" which is how many non-locals from the US have always pronounced it. i don't know if that was done purposely, but it's brilliant nonetheless.
knp saya bisa melihat apa yg diperbincangkan dan mendengar yg direncanakan.? wktu itu? "Pancing smua tentara amerika ke lautan kita" lalu ketika smua sudah di lautan, saatnya kita ke sana..... HAIK
I love how Mako’s character is the only one that’s not eager to fight a war with the U.S. It’s like he’s the only one could see that they’re about to step on the toes of an angry sleeping giant.
The torpedoes were such a shock to the US that they immediately started experimenting with their own designs. One such design was by Westinghouse, produced in Sharon Pennsylvania and tested in Pymatuning Lake in PA
My Grandfather was at Pearl Harbor December 7th. He said that there was a Japanese exchange pilot in their flight group (USN) who committed suicide during the attack by eating the broken glass of spectacles. It took hours for him to die and he could not speak. No one knew much about him or ever would.
The attack on Pearl Harbor was a massive blow to the US Navy. It cost the Americans thousands of people, hundreds of airplanes, and a lot of ships. But nothing rarely goes just like you planned it, and the Japanese learned it that day. By chance, all three of the US Pacific Fleet's carriers (which were some of the VIP targets the Japanese had in mind) were at sea on missions and survived the attack. Later in the war, these ships would help fight in the war and avenge Pearl Harbor. That being said, if you look at US production, there's no way the Japanese could have won even if the carriers had been destroyed. In the three years following the Battle of Midway, the Japanese built 6 aircraft carriers. The U.S. built 17. Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto wrote in his diary: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve". He had no idea how right he was. Even today, if the US were to be attacked, all the people, all the politicians would unite. And you would see a society that can wage war like no other.
There is no proof Yamamoto ever uttered those lines, let alone in his "diary". It's simply not true and it's been debunked. "if you look at US production, there's no way the Japanese could have won even if the carriers had been destroyed" This is an inaccurate way of looking at the situation. Japan's goal was not to "win" a war or conquer the U.S. Not at all. Their end goal was simply to beat up the U.S. so bad that the U.S. would sue for some kind of peace that lets Japan keep their conquered territories. If Midway was instead a total Japanese victory things could have been much different in my eyes. At the very least, the war would have dragged on for more years. Frankly, I think Japan's assessment that they HAD to attack the U.S. in order to take SE Asian colonies with oil and rubber was seriously misguided. I seriously doubt that American public opinion would have been strong enough for a war if Japan had ONLY invaded the Dutch Indies and Malaya. Americans were not going to fight a war for European colonies in Asia. That attack on Pearl Harbor was just a horrible idea through and through. The vast majority of Americans wanted absolutely nothing to do with any wars before that attack.
Lol, were did you learn that? What makes you think the US wanted to sell oil to Japan? We were the ones who put the oil embargo on them in the first place because we didn't like the colonial game they were playing in Asia.
Nice that this movie shows how US started the war, they knew that their oil-embargo would mean an act of war for Japan. Roosevelt wanted to join the war against Germany and needed a way US-public would follow him. He knew Japan would attack Havaii, that's why the carriers was not there, only their old, outdated ships. Sure they did not like how Japan acted in China, but US did conquer other countries the same way before, for example Philipines, Hawaii, etc.. It's their all way to become hegemon. 😂
@@cyber_habanero I thought that was a conspiracy theory with no evidence to prove. Analysis by "who has what to gain from taking certain actions" can only be valid at most but never sound. So I've been looking for something like a military strategy or order that explicitly said "let the Jap bomb Pearl Harbor", otherwise, carriers not in port was just a coincidence.
"A brilliant man would find a way not to fight a war." - what a great quote, and such a true statement.
Good statement, but his actions where the contrary
what movie name?
It came from "The Art of War" book, one of the strategy sentence.
@@randomrazr Pearl Harbor - 2001, Affleck, Hartnett, and Beckinsale. While there are some good scenes, it's less a war movie and more a melodramatic love triangle with a war playing in the background and it's way to long. The more recent Midway is a better movie in my opinion.
@@freddyg1769 Who? Admiral Yamamoto? You had to understand he was under pressure because the navy ministry was being pressured by prime minister and general Hideki Tojo. The then ex-Prime Minister Konoe Fumimaro already lost the way to contain the Land Army as they already occupied majority of the cabinet, even the Navy Ministry is filled with pro army people with Adminral Yamamoto as Vice minister of the Navy becoming the only one inside the navy ministry that opposes the war, the only allies he had (during this time) outside the ministry is Shigenori Togo the Foreign minister. So in this backdrop do you know what Yamamoto did? He become the commander of the combined fleet to escape assassination from the pro-army people (people who support Togo). Outside of all of this, Keisuke Okada the old ex-Prime Minister and Ex-Navy Minister, to somehow expel Togo and their cronies from the cabinet. as to help Yamamoto for being able to return to the mainland as the Cabinet member (which he half failed since later Yamamoto died in air battle), but succeeded kicking Togo and their pro war cronies out of cabinet in 1944, after this Shigenori Togo pushed for surrender with the Allies, it didn't work really well, until Konoe Fumimaro met with the Emperor and the Emperor still fond of the army, reject it but will think about it. After all of this, there are shift in the direction of the war, 6 people are appointed by the emperor to direct the war while also prevent the collapse of the government because now the anti war faction has grown large enough to destabilize the cabinet. the composition of the member is 2 pro war and 4 anti war
Prime Minister, Admiral Kantaro Suzuki (Anti War)
Minister of Foreign Affairs Shigenori Togo (Anti War)
Minister of the Army, General Korechika Amami (Pro War)
Minister of the Navy, Admiral Mitsumasa Yonai (Anti War)
Chief of the Army General Staff, General Yoshijiro Umezu (Pro War)
Chief of the Navy General Staff, Admiral Koshiro Oikawa (Anti War) later replaced with Admiral Suemu Toyoda (Anti War)
Do you notice something? Each and every Navy Admirals was anti war the same as Yamamoto, but he was pushed around by the now Ex-Prime Minister Hideki Tojo with the blessing of the Emperor, since they are already in deep trouble, they can't pull out. They had to clean the crap The Army created, they were pushed to war not because they choose to go to war, but because The Army is filled with people who can't think really far, yet people from the army managed to occupy several strategic Cabinet Position, including the position of Prime Minister, as if it's not enough, The Emperor had a falling out with Ex-Prime Minister Konoe Fumimaro and become to trust Prime Minister Hideki Tojo for everything that is war related. Yamamoto know if he just followed the direction of the Army, the Navy will just slaughtered wholesale, so he had to do the attack on Hawaii or the southern force will be a failure of humongous proportion with the death of Japanese Conscript in a Hundred of thousands.
The Navy, or in this case, Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, can be said a victim of circumstances, he can not quit or be passive or he will be eliminated or assassinated by the army, not only that, if he did nothing the army will just do more stupid war plan and kill more soldier in a stupid decision. He had to do something.
Huge appreciation for the Japanese high command's penchant for holding all their meetings in the fresh air.
Hey it's for good team building and moral boosting and increase productivity
It was a green initiative back then. Instead of using an aircon inside the ship.
Is this not how Samurai/Shogun used to do it back in the day?
No GPS or sat images back then, so yea good strategy
It was meant to be inside but all the high command had behaved really well that week.
R.I.P. Mako Iwamatsu (1933-2006) Mostly Mako Voice Of Aku from Samurai Jack and Uncle Iroh in Avatar The Last Airbender Honor and Righteousness
Don't forget that Mako also voiced Master Splinter in CGI cartoon movie Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from 2007.
I remember Mako the best when he fought Bruce Lee in an episode of The Green Hornet.
He also acted as our last minister of tibet in seven years in tibet movie.
You also forgot he was the narrator in freaking Conan too
He also played the bilge coolie in THE SAND PEBBLES with Steve McQueen.
"A brilliant man would find a way not to fight a war!"
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It was not up to Yamamoto to form national policy of Japan.
He was an exceptionally intelligent man.
@@cecilhammerton8167yeah he knew Japan dont have the same Industrial and economic power as US.
@@adri2shadow If I remember right Yamamoto was several times in the United States. He even studied at the Harvard University in the 1920s and he served as naval attaché in Washington, D.C while also traveling trough the United States and learning about the customs and business. He both opposed the war against China and later against the United States.
So yeah, he definetly had a good idea of the potential the US had and knew Japan could never win in a prolonged war with the United States.
Uncle Iroh is going full Fire Nation
I mean he’s got Shang Tsung working with him too
iroh is enfj 1w9 yamamato intj 5w6
@@MadMamluk88
Shang Tsung and Aku working together, now that's a power duo
Pearl Harbor is his Ba Sing Se
@@tomaslopez2940 But there are no Aircraft Carriers in Ba Sing Se
For those who keep asking, this movie is Pearl Harbor (2001)
I love how Yamamoto looks at the children before committing, it had to be that bad to do what they did unreal
They actually had no choice but to either Attack or Surrender. They chose to attack.
It was either attack or say goodbye to their whole empire.
The us suckered the Japanese into attacking us. Left the fleet wide open, just happen to have carriers out to sea.
@@seventhuser904skipped history classes much kiddo?
He knows that to start had to risk a ending
Billy Mitchell was brash and opinionated, but in 1925, he correctly predicted that the Japanese would attack Pearl. That's right, 99 years ago he wrote a book and described how it would be carried out.
He also cheated at Donkey Kong **
@@pilsnerd420 Hey, he's gamer of the Century!
The Japanese saw the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm attack at Taranto in Nov 1940 where the Italian Navy sustained serious damage in its anchorage as clear proof that the Pearl Harbor attack could succeed.
It's nice to know the B-25 was named after him.
Amazing unless you read that how he actually saw Pearl Harbor being attacked by Land planes and he thought carriers lacked ability. But go ahead and keep calling him a visionary while literally having zero knowledge of his actual writings outside what other people quite while omitting a bunch. So yes, he predicted it but no it didn't happen at all like he thought
What Japan pulled off in Pearl Harbour was impossible for any other Power (of that time) except maybe the British. The daring, the planning- coordination -execution, the secrecy, the surprise element, the scale of the operation-were all unprecedented...
Taranto
Japan themselves learned from the British that air attack on ships in port was possible. They had observers in Italy inspecting the damage done after the raid on Taranto.
Lol the Brits😂😂😂😂 Dunkirk says Hi... If there was no commonwealth soldiers for them to fight during the Africa campaign and European theatre, they're history.. your Queens and Kings will be shitting in their pants..
The British though the Japanese were incapable of using aircraft in such a manner. See also Force Z
@@advamalstanly2928 Atleast British are lot better than US (given how small the country is). Let's talk about the US. They entered WWI- 3 years AFTER it started. And WW II again 3 years after it started (and was busy--shamelessly doing ugly business making profit through lend-lease, when countries in Europe were fighting for survival). Such cowardice is nowhere seen in history. Dunkirk? Well what about the Battle of Britain? BTW I'm not British.
The espionage operation done by the Japanese was elaborate and well-thought out. Although they didn’t properly estimate the consequences, they had the sophistication to establish a proper attack with assistance from their network of spies.
Sun Tzu said that spies are one of the most important tools of any general. It remains the same here- the battle of the mind is the most important.
But why didn't they pound the fuel dumps? That likely would have had an even greater impact than sinking our older model battleships, yes?
@@timothydavidcurpWell, for one they weren’t aiming for only US battleships, they were also aiming for other craft such as carriers. At the time, it was believed that battleships were still a critical part of any fleet- that would change as later in the war, ships like the Bismarck and Yamato were sunk by torpedo bombers.
I’m inclined to believe that the Japanese probably did aim for fuel depots as well- they took much inspiration from the prior attack on Taranto, Italy by British Swordfish torpedo bombers, in which the British not only targeted Regia Marina warships but also fuel depots.
@@tektoastium7241 it just seems, given the difficulties of building up a significant supply of fuel at Perl Harbor, that the fuel dumps should have been the highest priority - and then the carriers and other ships... I have to wonder if there wasn't just a certain amount of bravado/going for the most decorated scalp at work, rather than a more methodical approach to war making?
One thing that is very overlooked in history is the espionage and counter-insurgency abilities of Imperial Japan. There is a reason why every Korean who went to Nakano Academy made it to very high positions in ROK intel and military, and it isn't because they were "installed". It was through merit.
The aircraft carriers were out at sea, the navy shouldive had a few ships on stand by and some more out at sea.
Any movie starring Mako is going to be a master class.
Seven Years in Tibet!!
This comment is a master class on calling something a master class.
"A brilliant man would find a way not to fight a war."
Breaking fourth wall towards the audience!
History and future warning in one single scene!
It was not breaking the fourth wall and additional explanation such as this is always quite foolish and childish
It’s wasn’t breaking the 4th wall. That general was very on record about not wanting Japan to attack and piss off the sleeping giant that was the US.
They ignored him and, essentially, sent him and his men on a suicide mission to Pearl Harbor. Pretty sure he committed suicide close to the end of the war.
Yes. But Putin is threatening to use nuclear weapons these days 😂
Dude should have thought about that before invading Manchuria
@@user-hm8hd2nc6u He looks directly into the camera
Fun fact: The founder of Reiki moved from Japan to Hawaii. The Japanese government asked him to take photos of Pearl Harbor. When he refused, they called him a traitor to his country. He was obligated to ritual suicide.
He did it?
@@dadab8547He off'ed himself 😔
Brainwashing gone to far, perhaps why they have high suicides til this day.
Theres something just so badass to me thinking about the japanese leadership, high on victory, stand around congratulating eachother while Yamamoto stands in silent dread realizing that while the attack was a success, the carriers had been away and would be instrumental in avenging what was done there.
Yamamoto was on record as not being for the attack or the war.
Carriers still weren't thought of as being as essential as battleships. The Japanese also missed the oil tanks. Hitting those would have really set the fleet back.
@@dixievfd55 They missed the oil tanks? Were they on the attack list? Were they to be attacked in the third wave that never came? Oil tanks are very difficult, if attacked, to "miss".
@@dixievfd55Yamato was against that theory and was a supporter of battleships
@@dixievfd55
They didn't bomb the oil tanks because they thought that the US had so much oil it wouldn't make any difference. The truth is that the US did have the oil, but if they blew the tanks, then there sure wouldn't be any at Pearl.
I think this scene did a disservice to admiral yamamoto. I understand the purpose of this movie was for American propaganda purposes so kind of simplified who he is. He actually was very aware that going to war with america was suicide. He went to Harvard and was keenly aware of American infrastructure and capability to wage war. but he decided to fight this way anyway to raise the chances of being able to win. As a Korean American though thank God Japan lost because they were doing some heinous things all over Asia
But in this film, he is indeed shown as being reluctant to this operation.. "awakening a sleeping giant"
朝鮮人=大明帝國and大日本帝國の藩屬
very true. The Things that they did to the Chinese with the rape of Nanking and Japan doing terrible things to Korean women with the comfort wives also was sad.
Yamamoto also fought at Tsushima straits against the Russian navy, where, mind you, the Japanese won; the Japanese actually thought they'd be able to claim most, if not all, of South East Asia after Pearl, figuring that it would take too long for the American Pacific Navy to return to strength to challenge Japanese supremacy.
@@woodwyrm And when the challenge inevitably came Yamamoto hoped to initiate another Tsushima, to eviscerate the carriers and whatever survived Pearl Harbor-unfortunately for him, Joseph Rochefort and co. were reading his mail before even Yamamoto got it.
nice supercarriers Japan has at 3:58. I also love that the Japanese use calendars with the English names of each day 9:28
Omg that pissed me off so much! They could have used any stock footage of a ww2 Japanese carrier, but they decided to get footage of a modern American carrier group 🤦♂️
The fact is they where actually converted cargo ships retro fitted to hold places and personnel for war. They wernt built for war the original ships, but Japan new they needed carrier and carriers quick hence the rero fitting if simple cargo ships to become and instrument of war. They had 9 carriers but I think they knew they needed more and four where converted, by the start the pearl harbour attack. Japan had the largest carrier fleet in the workd
They also had some shots up close of modern destroyers/cruisers
Wow Shang Tsung has been around for along time 😂
Yeah he always plays as a villain in movies 😅
lol, mortal combat
Well he likes collecting soul didn't he😂
So this is how trade minister Tagomi got his spot ...
He made some pictures
Japanese preparation.. Is badass ✨✨
Movie name?
@@allexanderchristian3873 Pearl Harbor
you are ruining the moment, please shut up.
For Pearl and the early war it was. Subsequently it tended to be overly complex... too many moving parts.
japanese war criminals
Mikey Bay was really cooking with all the Japanese-perspective scenes in this movie
I thought he did a good job despite what the haters say. This movie has good replay value for me.
「尊皇」とか「皇国」とかとりあえず並べとけばいいやって感じのチャチいセット好き
欧米人の日本へのステレオタイプが、垣間見れる。
@@TimOttoJp 今の弱い世代の日本人のようなものではなく、昔の日本もそうでした。
Almost Japanese people would laugh if they saw a movie set like this.
Why don't they have roofed buildings?
I've not seen this movie from beginning to end but my gosh, it's so beautifully shot. From the fading of all the names with the camera to focus on the one the actor is talking about, to the contrast on all the technology of both sides. Brilliant work!
Believe me, one of the worst war movies I have ever seen, Mako couldn't even save it.
i love the logistics, planning, and training required to undertake massive operations like this that results in overwhelming success. Same can be said with the first 24 hours of Desert Storm's air campaign and Operation Uppercut.
4:22 1960's Knox-class frigates with helipads. They really could have chosen better ships for this scene, or not zoom in to make it so obvious.
well most of the suriving WW2 era ships have been sold or scrapped at this point
I mean, imagine a RIM-7 Missile cell at Pearl Harbor on that day :D
also, modern supercarriers at 3:59
seems they didn't give much shit
Such a good movie ruined by a love story.
that's why tora tora tora is the best. told from both american and japanese perspectives. directed by both american and japanese directors. factual telling of events.
@@babayaga1767 Tora Tora Tora is also more historically accurate with the ship models it uses. Its not perfect but at least you dont have modern FFG's and Nuclear carriers present in the film.
exactly & Titanic too..
And huge inaccuracies.
Fact that night marine enjoy weekend play with girl n drunk
It was so much fun shooting these scenes:-)
I remeber seeing this movie years ago, The Japanese part is so good how it was done. I forgot about this
It's crazy the amount of intelligence the Japanese had on Pearl Harbor. With everything that is happening with China I can't help but think of this movie and wonder if history is bound to repeat itself. China seems to be another pre World War II Japan. One would hope we learned our lesson.
Actually you are not that far off. P.R.China today is using its softpower to use chinese diasporas in Southeast Asia and United States either as spies or at least supporting their cause.
Just like the Japanese in ww2, they have a nig navy and powerful airforce plus there aggressive
I would have agreed with you pre-Obama, but if China Pearl Harbored us today, half the country would scream it was our own fault for not using the proper pronouns and that we needed to surrender.
@@bobg5362No they wouldn't, but keep up that victim mentality
中国は、アメリカ合衆国のハワイ侵略を参考にしているでしょうね。
Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, Dan Aykroyd, Ben Affleck, Colm Feore, Graham Beckel (Commander Fisk on Battlestar Galactica) and so many others here...
On December 5, 1941, Walt Disney was 40!
“A brilliant man would find a way not to fight a war”
what a quote.
04:14 I’m not sure if cameras from 1941 era could get such good photos from afar.
also at 8:14 the ships around the carrier are literally modern US destroyers and cruisers lol. Arleigh Burke class too lmao
That camera is a special edition product requested by japanese government..... as legend said: a secret society gathered to made that request.....the holy grail of camera
Kids nowadays know them as sony, nikon, canon, fujifilm, panasonic, olympus, ricoh
Japan was always known for it's fine optics.
The scenes of the American Navy officers trying to determine the Japanese movements are well done. I love scenes where puzzle pieces are more or less being put together to figure out what is going on. It really is a shame we underestimated the Japanese so much.
Same happened in Vietnam. Same happened on 9/11.
@@teyemanon1970 Eh, I don't view Vietnam as I do Pearl Harbor and 9-11. Vietnam should never have been fought.
Mako was a great actor. To me, his most memorable performance was in 55 days at Peking
The Sand Pebbles
i totally forgot the picture taking part, when i was little, this is very well made, now i realize the guy from mortal combat is here, liu cans enemy
I forgot Mako was in this movie. He was a great actor.
When the leader always think that he's better than his subordinate in every way. The result, Pearl Harbour in history.
Ive watched enoug of the new Shogun to pick up some of Yamamoto's words :p
Yamamoto was a true military man, a brilliant tactian but understood the reality of war.
loved your take on this subject, it’s so well thought out!
4:23, that looks damn modern for a WW2 ship. Did not know helicopters were used by the US Naval ships back then.
4:22 is the correct timestamp, but yeah well spotted, there are even box missile launchers on those ships.
The ships at 3:57 look pretty modern as well, and the carriers in the background look like they copy-pasted it five times (at least they got the number of carriers right)
Uncle iroh
RIP
Mako Iwamatsu
(1933-2006)
This movie did a good job depicting the prelude to the attack its actually quite accurate
Tora Tora Tora does a better job.
Were you there?!
@@gabrielbaynunn2418 WeRe YOu tHeRE?
@@jelly.212We both were!
each general was the grandson generation of the last generation of the tokugawa shogunate. the generals had no knowledge of rational judgments and logic thinking. people outside of japan took it granted that "a heavyweight person is superior to a lightweight person in a judo match". the generals had believed that even "a japanese lightweight person can beat an american heavyweight person" because they seriously believed that japan was a nation of emperors with divine wind (kami kaze).
合理的なじゃなくて嫌でも戦わないといけなくなったんです。パリ講和会議の時に人種差別撤廃提案を出してから白人国家の日本イジメは限界を超えました。あと当時、支那軍閥は人民を弾圧してました。それらの救出も日本は一部的に行ってました。それらを妨害する為に支援して日本イジメをやりまくってたのがアメリカとアングロサクソンの植民地主義の国々らです。日本は元々ペリー来航から奴隷にされそうに成ってました。それを戦いに勝って大日本帝国は強くなったからアングロサクソン国が日本を潰したいのと、人種差別撤廃を訴えてきた日本から植民地を失うのが怖かったのですよ。だから潰しにかかってきたんです。日本はそれに抵抗しただけです。
全く違和感だらけの映画セットですね～。鳥居に軍艦旗。全く日本をしらない監督が作った作品。
What are Nimitz and the Arleigh Burkes doing in 1941???
I am asking the same question to
Also the ships in the port when he japanese guy was talking th photos also look modern
The Final Countdown.
@@robertmorris8997 Easter egg af
that fleet shot made me laugh and think "well if that had been the force striking out at Pearl Harbor the war would have taken an entirely different course!" :D
It was pretty clever that they attacked on an early Sunday morning. The reason? Saturday night, everyone would be out late getting wasted, partying, and having Saturday night fun. You get them early Sunday morning when they are all still asleep and hungover, rendering their ability to fight back virtually useless, and you also have the element of surprise. The Japanese knew what they were doing.
Shang Tsung... flawless victory
best war music
4:05 Takeo Yoshikawa: do you have any air tours going through the valley of Oahu you do
i just realized NOW, after watching pearl Habor like 6 or 7 times , that the code reader dude or w/e is Dan Akroyd..
Hanz Zimmer sounds like he used a number of track elements from Gladiator in this soundtrack.
3:57 Japanese time traveler carrier group?
RIP Mako-san
I just love how they made this film
These scenes are my favourites from the movie, followed by FDR's speech
name of the movie?
They DID awaken a sleeping giant.
🇻🇮🇺🇲⚡UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ⚡🇺🇲🇻🇮
But now afraid of china and russia 😂😂😂 baiting other countries to start a war! What a dog
@@heitor5784actually if equipped with the same level of technology and economy the ww2 japanese would do in the war far far better than the yankees and their oil wars..you see it is all started when US wanted to play with oil...you don't want other nation going higher above you..we asians know we are capable to outsmart you just like in attack of the pearl harbour...we could make the world better with our bigger brain and calmer nature...
Japan now faces its most challenging opponent yet, the industrial Juggernaut of America shakes off the rubble of the civil war and its war machine roars back to life
@@sallmandar1027 Definitely. He said they couldn't defeat the US in a long way. They thought and hoped our Aircraft Carriers would be at Pearl Harbor, but they weren't. Thankfully. We couldn't afford to lose those carriers.
If only Bay ditched the romance plot and focus on history, people will remember this movie more fondly.
Instead of 2 fictional characters with vapid romance bull, make Affleck and Hartnett actually play George Welch and Kenneth Taylor
You kidding? Taylor blasted the movie as garbage.
yeah i know. he was consulted in the 1970 movie Tora Tora Tora, but not for 2001 Pearl Harbor. what i meant is Bay should have grind his teeth and make it a fully fledged Tora Tora Tora reboot@@raymondyee2008
@@raymondyee2008Yep and due to it being historically inaccurate and the romance subplot with it.
If the movie had more historically accurate props, storytelling and everything else, it would be remembered more fondly like what OP said.
From what I had read, Bay didn't want the romance plot. He had wanted to remake Tora Tora Tora with modern CGI, and had threatened to leave production at a couple points. While he wouldn't have been anywhere near historically accurate (and had way more fun with explosions as Bay tends to do), apparently the whole romance plot was a Bruckheimer thing. The fact that the best scenes are the ones that have actual historical figures, such as Yamamoto, Roosevelt, Doolittle, and even Petty Offiicer Doris Miller (as portrayed by Cuba Gooding Jr), are proof of this.
I feel like this movie could do well to have a Phantom Edit where all the scenes with made up characters (other than the Doolittle Raid, and even then focus entirely on Baldwin there) are completely scrubbed from the movie. Would be short and still have glaring inaccuracies, but would be a much better movie overall.
I don't think that's true at all, there's a reason films like this do so well and it's basically it's not solely based on the historical stuff. Titanic for example, Saving Private Ryan. The romantic subplot draws casuals in and makes the film bigger, now that's not the case all the time but pearl harbor is a bigger movie for the romantic stuff. Now is that the case all the time? No of course not but most of the time yes.
what movie was this from? i can't seem to find it. there is another 'pearl harbor' movie with josh hartnett, ben affleck and kate beckinsale
Pearl harbor 2001, Ben Affleck is in this movie
'its what I would do' the worst answer you can give.
3:59 Wow, they couldn't be bothered to CG that? Interesting to know Japan had several Nimitz class CV's and a nuclear attack sub in WW2.
98% of the people don't care about such details.
3:57 was a modern American aircraft carrier.
They didn’t have the budget for everything. They also used modern carrier for hornet during Doolittle raid
i think they used to same one for transformers shot xD
4:22 are modern Frigates, or really really modern looking WW2 destroyers
@@philippbehrend5559 Knox-class frigates with helipads
@@Shadowdoc26 In one shot during the launch of the bombers you could also see the catapult in the deck.
Totally forgot about these scenes
this is a really well put together movie. awesome.
name of the movie please?
Seriously?
@roshanantony Pearl harbor 2001
Uncle Iroh vs Uncle Sam, Fire nation vs Gun nation
7:20 is that Sung Kang a.k.a Han (Fast & Furious) right?
that's him lol, just found out not long ago that he starred in pearl harbor as a translator
@@gutentag587soo young
R.I.P.
Mako Iwamatsu
What movie is this?
I remember this movie when it first came out in theatres when I lived In Hawaii. It was NOt well received at first. But, its one of those that just "grows" on you over time, and I believe, not for certain, that it did quite well financially over the Long run
If you take out the silly love triangle it's not a bad film. And most of the battle scenes are done with practical effects
@@AB-mw8ozwell, you know...Hollywood. They do what they gotta do. But, yes. Agreed.
What movie is this?
@@thefive2509 same question
Nah, the movie overall is still trash because of what was already mentioned - the love triangle. If that was taken out and it was just a war movie, it would have been brilliant. The shame of that is that you COULD take out all of that stuff and still have a feature length film 😂
The movie is 'Pearl Harbor' for those who are asking. Came out in 2001.
which movie's scene is this?
omitted here is the reason why the US sanctioned Japan. it makes it seem that the USA is the aggressor. when in fact the Japanese had since 1937 been attacking China and committing genocides
4:34 1944 uss west Virginia not 1941 version
Indeed that was after Pearl Harbor and having the 1943 refit. Yet another historical inaccuracy.
8:33 one of my favorite details from this film is when the major mispronounced "Haleiwa." he switched the I and the E to pronounce it "Haliewa" which is how many non-locals from the US have always pronounced it. i don't know if that was done purposely, but it's brilliant nonetheless.
I love you, Akagi.
Why did the Japanese had calendars with English words?
Hollywood.
Because it's an english audience
Yamamoto was a genius by birth, he fought many battles and wars, he was also a wise man, though he was educated by the west
The problem in this movie, thats not Yamamoto, but mixed 2 character
Yamamoto & Nagumo.
Yamamoto never lead the strike group to Pearl Habour
@@felixchrist667 And Nagumo was not that smart
which pearl harbour movie is this?
always wondered why there was a 'modern' vessel photographed. DD-990 Ingersoll
このセットほんと酷すぎて好き
民間人がすぐそこで走り回ってるような屋外でこんな会議やるわけねーだろ！！！
トランプ大統領がホテルのラウンジで国家機密級の（北朝鮮に行く）会話を普通に閣僚連中にして、DIAやNSAが怒りまくった話し好き。アメリカでもまれにある。
@@kenzow2800 でも流石にこれはやらんでしょ…なんで屋外にわざわざこんなの用意して奇襲攻撃の話やってるんだ…
@@daifukusangokun 製作がディズニーだし、「エンタメだし、こんな感じでいいだろ」と思ったとか・・・
knp saya bisa melihat apa yg diperbincangkan dan mendengar yg direncanakan.?
wktu itu?
"Pancing smua tentara amerika ke lautan kita"
lalu ketika smua sudah di lautan,
saatnya kita ke sana.....
HAIK
I love how Mako’s character is the only one that’s not eager to fight a war with the U.S. It’s like he’s the only one could see that they’re about to step on the toes of an angry sleeping giant.
The torpedoes were such a shock to the US that they immediately started experimenting with their own designs. One such design was by Westinghouse, produced in Sharon Pennsylvania and tested in Pymatuning Lake in PA
lots of modern ships LOL
What film is this? It looks worth a watch..
Pearl harbor 2001
Severomorsk Naval Base: the return
총알이 한발도 발사되지 않은 장면이지만, 그 어떤 총격전 장면보다도 더 스릴있고 긴장되네요.
Shang tsung was in the Imperial navy ?
My Grandfather was at Pearl Harbor December 7th. He said that there was a Japanese exchange pilot in their flight group (USN) who committed suicide during the attack by eating the broken glass of spectacles. It took hours for him to die and he could not speak. No one knew much about him or ever would.
Your grandfather lied to you.
There was no "exchange" program between the USN and IJN
Love people making shit up just for a youtube comment
Japanese empire was at risk... Indeed!
日本には江戸時代末期から、欧米による侵略の危機は常にあった。
What is the movie?
Music is fire.
時代考証も何もない史上類をみないポンコツ映画
The attack on Pearl Harbor was a massive blow to the US Navy. It cost the Americans thousands of people, hundreds of airplanes, and a lot of ships. But nothing rarely goes just like you planned it, and the Japanese learned it that day. By chance, all three of the US Pacific Fleet's carriers (which were some of the VIP targets the Japanese had in mind) were at sea on missions and survived the attack. Later in the war, these ships would help fight in the war and avenge Pearl Harbor.
That being said, if you look at US production, there's no way the Japanese could have won even if the carriers had been destroyed. In the three years following the Battle of Midway, the Japanese built 6 aircraft carriers. The U.S. built 17.
Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto wrote in his diary: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve".
He had no idea how right he was. Even today, if the US were to be attacked, all the people, all the politicians would unite. And you would see a society that can wage war like no other.
There is no proof Yamamoto ever uttered those lines, let alone in his "diary". It's simply not true and it's been debunked.
"if you look at US production, there's no way the Japanese could have won even if the carriers had been destroyed"
This is an inaccurate way of looking at the situation. Japan's goal was not to "win" a war or conquer the U.S. Not at all. Their end goal was simply to beat up the U.S. so bad that the U.S. would sue for some kind of peace that lets Japan keep their conquered territories. If Midway was instead a total Japanese victory things could have been much different in my eyes. At the very least, the war would have dragged on for more years.
Frankly, I think Japan's assessment that they HAD to attack the U.S. in order to take SE Asian colonies with oil and rubber was seriously misguided. I seriously doubt that American public opinion would have been strong enough for a war if Japan had ONLY invaded the Dutch Indies and Malaya. Americans were not going to fight a war for European colonies in Asia. That attack on Pearl Harbor was just a horrible idea through and through. The vast majority of Americans wanted absolutely nothing to do with any wars before that attack.
It feels like the allied got incredibly lucky at several occasions.
Many people hated this movie, but I thought it was genuinely good. Especially this whole bit, never do you see this in any other movie
Uncle Iroh
R.I.P. Mako Iwamatsu (1933-2006) Mostly Mako Voice Of Aku from Samurai Jack and Uncle Iroh in Avatar The Last Airbender Honor and Righteousness
違和感ありあり
I don't remember half of this. Deleted scenes?
What's the band of the movie?
You mean who wrote the score? Hans Zimmer.
Empire of Japan : They cut our oil supply.
Also Empire of Japan : To get it back, we will attack those that sell it to us!
Genious plan.
yeah talk about biting the hand that feeds you literally🤣🤣🤣
Actually it was and if they had succeded they had become stronger
Lol, were did you learn that? What makes you think the US wanted to sell oil to Japan? We were the ones who put the oil embargo on them in the first place because we didn't like the colonial game they were playing in Asia.
Nice that this movie shows how US started the war, they knew that their oil-embargo would mean an act of war for Japan. Roosevelt wanted to join the war against Germany and needed a way US-public would follow him. He knew Japan would attack Havaii, that's why the carriers was not there, only their old, outdated ships. Sure they did not like how Japan acted in China, but US did conquer other countries the same way before, for example Philipines, Hawaii, etc.. It's their all way to become hegemon. 😂
@@cyber_habanero I thought that was a conspiracy theory with no evidence to prove. Analysis by "who has what to gain from taking certain actions" can only be valid at most but never sound. So I've been looking for something like a military strategy or order that explicitly said "let the Jap bomb Pearl Harbor", otherwise, carriers not in port was just a coincidence.
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