Doing a muffler mod on the ms 150 tc, This is a very easy mod to do and anyone can do it. Please enjoy!!! Thanks 700 subs!!!! Like Comment Subscribe for more! • Echo 2511T Full Mods!
Your videos are great compared to others. No extra blah blah blah, just great info and the reasons for the mods. Quick and to the point. No wasted time. Keep it up.
Ya no problem, also I forgot to mention in normal cases with a muffler mod you want fatten it up a bit, Mine was really rich so it needed a bit more lean after the muffler mod. Also thinner oil like winter oil helps the oiler from plugging up. Stay safe bro. 👊
Ya it turns out the muffler mod leaned it out more than I thought so I backed the high jet back to the limiter, you could also file it out with a file, thanks for watching man. 👊
great video ...I'm going to have to see if I can catch a 150 on sale...we have a lot of big oak pruning to do and that looks perfect ...congrats on the 700 subs 👍👍👍👊
Hey man thanks for the sub, anyway for the 150 you could also use a file to open up the muffler, makes a big difference on the saw, also don't forget to turn the high jet back to the limiter, im gonna do a video soon on how to remove the limiter.
@@bayestreeservices9148 no all the way back the other way, because it had more airflow it needs to be fattened up a bit, so turn left all the way to the limiter
I got around to doing this modification. It was a beautiful song she sang to breathe better. Mine had no spark arrester screen, but there was quite a bit of accumulated carbon on all the surfaces of the reflector plate. I opened up the opening and the saw ran so nice 👍
Poplar Mechanic thanks again for the update. I use this saw a ton and want give her the chance to shut up the guys who giggle at it. It has some real perks, and when used nicely she can be a real saver
Well done sir. I picked up a new saw myself. I got a Husqvarna 572xp yesterday and we are taking her out today to clean up some storm damage at my parents office building.
@@PoplarMechanic We put about 2.3 hours on her yesterday. Super smooth saw they noticeably improved the anti-vib and IMHO the fuel consumption is much lower. We ran her full out dropping, limbing and logging a 20" Ash and a few other 6"-8" limbs that also fell and we still have 1/10 of a tank of fuel. I loved it very powerful saw for the weight.
Nice vid again dude 👍 I’ve got the 150 before I got the echo. Over here you can’t take the deflector off so I banged a 10mm hole in the side and trimmed the chain cover. Livens them up big time! The trouble I’ve had with mine is the oiler, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t! If I was to compare the stihl and the echo I’d say the stihl is a nice little saw, the echo is an angry little saw :)
Haha lol ya the echo is impressive. Mine seems to oil really good so far. In fact you can see it fly out in the video. I'll know more as time goes on, Thanks for tuning in man.
I bought my 151 this spring. Didnt get to use it much before recently because of surgery. I got it in some wood and had maybe 2 tanks thru it. Realized the oiler isn't adjustable , and it wasn't working. My local shop fixed it under warranty. Glad for that. Sure wish they had an adjustable oiler on them though.
@@PoplarMechanic the side start is really cool used it for cleaning the yard after splitting firewood did and awesome job with the heavy crap hoping to use the hand held one at home to blow snow off the equipment when it comes
Ya I watched that video! I mean I know I got the echo but it is nice to have a backup lol, plus it's a little stihl I had to have it!!! Have a good sunday brotha 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Yer have done to mine. So much better. But would like a timin advance. Really its been a great little saw used most days. Thanx great mod makes a lot of difference.
the problem now with even the best premium gas station gas to make a mix is that it has a lot of toxic filler like benzoyl and and Vinyl that also are very toxic, ( started happening oddly just before the pandemic). the spark arrestor getting plugged is not a design flaw, yet is letting us know what also is getting also in to our lungs. I have to prune thousands of large cherry trees and realized that with so many cuts and exhaust was making me sick. Yes the pre mix is expensive to use, but also will help avoid a very expensive repair to the piston. I also have to use the spark arrestor because at times I am working near public forests. what I did was invest in the 161 T electric that is heavier, and lacks torque for certain cuts, yet has the speed and balance for more fine punning. yet when you have your health with no exhaust and not the loud sound even with ear protection your going to stay productive and happy. I just use the 150 now only for 30 min a day, rather than for 6 hours like in the past.
I hear ya, I have to use bigger saws alot so I kinda got used to it, stihl is comming out with a new battery saw soon ive heard, im gonna get that one. Thanks for watching 👍
Rich and maybe heavy on the oil? Stihl is 50 to 1 where some other equipment is 40:1 so the stihl needs a little less oil. On mine I run the stihl synthetic oil which also may help and as a precaution I always use 90+ octane fuel. I never have a problem with that combo though and if it cost me an extra buck here or there its not a big deal for less hassle. :^)
Ya I run 40:1, But it was set way rich, It sure runs good now, hasn't missed a beat. But your right the extra oil probably didnt help the tiny opening especially with the screen. I just like 40:1 it's what I run in everything.
Love to see not everyone is in such desperation to work the weekends. You have an excellent business model if, most of the time, you’re able to spend time with family on the weekends. I would like to know how well the 2511 holds up. Because I would imagine that would be the factor in the price difference. The echo is good saw but will it rattle apart over time. I do think it’s necessary to have a smaller pruning saw. Unless you’re lucky enough to only accept removals. (August). Btw you are a class act. Educated, well spoken, pacified. You should have many more subs.
Appreciate that Brian, The echo does have its quirks, What I love about stihl is that it starts so consistently and reliably and idles all day. The echo is a power house for sure but the quality is lower for sure. Overall I like the echo it seems to run better since I tweaked it but it still has its moments. I'll let you know how it does over time. Have a good sunday 👊
Older tree guy from Ohio here. So I've been running the echo 2511t for couple years now. But liken these light weight saws alot, and wanting to try something else. Should I buy or save my money? I also thought of husky 525.
So the 2511t is going to be the lightest option wich you have, then you could go with a 151tc wich is fairly light as well, you could also look into the 194t wich would be middle ground, as far as the 525 goes it looks decent but I have no experience with it, I believe huskys battery saw is their most popular saw right now, stihl is comming out with a new battery saw very soon so im holding out for that one because I have 2 batteries for stihl already, personally I would go with the 194t, Although its a pound heavier you get more power for your money in my opinion, I may actually get a 194t myself, hope that helps! I'll leave you the 194t link so you can have a look m.en.stihl.ca/STIHL-Products/Chain-Saws-and-Pole-Pruners/Arborist-Chain-Saws/2102606-1528/MS-194-T.aspx?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwY-LBhD6ARIsACvT72MW3q5vxAJ7D2cCwLrMfsGOuwBq0cBEfoDP2Frw-riROyVA6z9UOZcaAuuKEALw_wcB
I recently bought the new upgraded version ms151 with a power upgrade its great out the box but still did this mod on it to make use of the 15% extra power Stihl claim it has.
Update, after two and a half months of waiting, they found out that the sealant that used between the cases was too much, it broke off inside and ended up scarring the cylinder within the first 5 minutes of use, since the saw was back ordered and they no longer make the 150, they finally got around to sending me the newer 151 TCE. Any idea if this mod would work on the newer unit
@@hvguy you should see a gain with this type of mod works on pretty much any chainsaw just dont go overboard or you could lose some torque...on the plus side it would still probably sound better :)... a good rule of thumb is 70 percent bigger than the exhaust port according to tinman ....saw should run cooler therefore better... also i think he mentioned if you go too big it could cause the saw to run lean
Thanks man! I really appreciate you doing that, I should mention my Instagram more in my videos, I'm working on a logo and some other things, Slowly getting better as time goes on.
That saw was definitely too rich. Need to see it in some wood. Hopefully you saved the screen, in case you need to use the saw in very dry conditions or you get a government contract where the screens have to be in place.
We only have one place around here where we need the screens. I saved it for that reason. Ya I knew it was rich but this model was overly rich. Thanks for watching.
Mine brand new they over tightened the chain wouldn’t hardly run. So I go to loosen the bar nut and they over tightened that too. It stripped the bar stud because it goes into shitty plastic threads. Horrible design and I’m a mechanical engineer. They at least should have had a metal insert for the stud threads. Took it back to where I bought it. They epoxied the stud in. I honestly just wanted a new one since the threads are screwed now. I wish it was designed like the larger saws with 2 bar nuts.
Ya, its not oiling, take bar and chain off and start the saw, watch to make sure oil is coming out, you'll probably have to air it out, the oiler kinda sucks on the 150
@@PoplarMechanic There is oil coming out. It does spin the chain but when I start cutting it bogs down and the chain stops. It's like the force dies down.
@@urielgonzalezpineda5458 I would check the spark arrestor it may be plugged, or did you do the muffler mod? Thats most common problems with bogging down
@@urielgonzalezpineda5458 or if you feel its more to do with the bar and chain try loosening the chain and cutting, if its the engine bogging its pretty much guaranteed the spark arrestor
Your videos are great compared to others. No extra blah blah blah, just great info and the reasons for the mods. Quick and to the point. No wasted time. Keep it up.
Awesome video! Been having same issues with mine. Did your mod, never heard her purr so nice!! Thanks.
Ya no problem, also I forgot to mention in normal cases with a muffler mod you want fatten it up a bit, Mine was really rich so it needed a bit more lean after the muffler mod. Also thinner oil like winter oil helps the oiler from plugging up. Stay safe bro. 👊
Nice explanation man. I need to start using some of what you’re teaching me.
Ya it turns out the muffler mod leaned it out more than I thought so I backed the high jet back to the limiter, you could also file it out with a file, thanks for watching man. 👊
Did this to my 151 definitely made a difference thank you for the video
Yes it definitely does, I hope that 151 is better than the 150, oiler sucks on the 150
great video ...I'm going to have to see if I can catch a 150 on sale...we have a lot of big oak pruning to do and that looks perfect ...congrats on the 700 subs
👍👍👍👊
Hey thanks alot Scoot. I'll let you know how it does, I Got some elms to trim tomorrow. 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Stoked to have found ur page dude and defo gonna do this mod on my lil 150 soon as. Thanks for sharing 🙌🏼
Hey man thanks for the sub, anyway for the 150 you could also use a file to open up the muffler, makes a big difference on the saw, also don't forget to turn the high jet back to the limiter, im gonna do a video soon on how to remove the limiter.
@@PoplarMechanic thanks dude amd just to clarify on the jet, we’re going all the way up to the limiter ? 🙌🏼
@@bayestreeservices9148 no all the way back the other way, because it had more airflow it needs to be fattened up a bit, so turn left all the way to the limiter
@@PoplarMechanic thanks dude🙏🏼. Appreciate ur time on this. Keep up the awesome work ur doing buddy 💯🙌🏼.
I got around to doing this modification. It was a beautiful song she sang to breathe better. Mine had no spark arrester screen, but there was quite a bit of accumulated carbon on all the surfaces of the reflector plate. I opened up the opening and the saw ran so nice 👍
Glad it helped, its a must with the 150 🤘
Hey Man I really appreciate this and I can clearly see how badly my 150 needs this treatment. 🤙
Ya makes a massive difference on this saw, alternatively you could use a round file to take out the extra metal.
Poplar Mechanic thanks again for the update. I use this saw a ton and want give her the chance to shut up the guys who giggle at it. It has some real perks, and when used nicely she can be a real saver
@@Treestouch hell ya great for trimming.
Sounds great.
Cool video. Going to open up my 151 this weekend. Thanks for the info.
No problem, hand file works good for the muffler as well
@@PoplarMechanic I have a bunch of dremel bits and a pencil grinder like yours. It will be short work to open it up.
@@justinliedtke5570 makes a big difference 👍
Well done sir. I picked up a new saw myself. I got a Husqvarna 572xp yesterday and we are taking her out today to clean up some storm damage at my parents office building.
Awesome man let me know how that 572 runs. I'm curious to see what you think. Thanks for tuning in man 👊
@@PoplarMechanic We put about 2.3 hours on her yesterday. Super smooth saw they noticeably improved the anti-vib and IMHO the fuel consumption is much lower. We ran her full out dropping, limbing and logging a 20" Ash and a few other 6"-8" limbs that also fell and we still have 1/10 of a tank of fuel. I loved it very powerful saw for the weight.
@@RainManFights awesome man sounds like you are enjoying it. Thanks for the information. I may buy a husky next but I'm spending too much on saws lol.
Nice vid again dude 👍
I’ve got the 150 before I got the echo. Over here you can’t take the deflector off so I banged a 10mm hole in the side and trimmed the chain cover. Livens them up big time! The trouble I’ve had with mine is the oiler, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t! If I was to compare the stihl and the echo I’d say the stihl is a nice little saw, the echo is an angry little saw :)
Haha lol ya the echo is impressive. Mine seems to oil really good so far. In fact you can see it fly out in the video. I'll know more as time goes on, Thanks for tuning in man.
I bought my 151 this spring. Didnt get to use it much before recently because of surgery. I got it in some wood and had maybe 2 tanks thru it. Realized the oiler isn't adjustable , and it wasn't working. My local shop fixed it under warranty. Glad for that. Sure wish they had an adjustable oiler on them though.
Nice job! Remove the limiter cap, makes a difference
Sweet little saw looked at one today went home with a leaf blower instead its the season lol congratulations on 700 subs 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇨🇦🇨🇦 stay safe
Ya blowers are awesome for snow, Did you get the 800?
@@PoplarMechanic yes and a bg 50 hand held hoping that they hold up as good as the old hunky may it rest in peaces
@@stevethompson4783 right on, I was looking at that 800 it looks awesome and it has the side start thing to.
@@PoplarMechanic the side start is really cool used it for cleaning the yard after splitting firewood did and awesome job with the heavy crap hoping to use the hand held one at home to blow snow off the equipment when it comes
Nice job!
Great mod
I did a muffler mod video on this saw few months back. The 150 has been a good little saw and has its place in the truck.
Ya I watched that video! I mean I know I got the echo but it is nice to have a backup lol, plus it's a little stihl I had to have it!!! Have a good sunday brotha 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Poplar Mechanic you as well brotha. It’s pretty crazy how they set that saw up to be modified.
@@mike99ify lol I know.
Yer have done to mine. So much better. But would like a timin advance. Really its been a great little saw used most days. Thanx great mod makes a lot of difference.
the problem now with even the best premium gas station gas to make a mix is that it has a lot of toxic filler like benzoyl and and Vinyl that also are very toxic, ( started happening oddly just before the pandemic). the spark arrestor getting plugged is not a design flaw, yet is letting us know what also is getting also in to our lungs. I have to prune thousands of large cherry trees and realized that with so many cuts and exhaust was making me sick. Yes the pre mix is expensive to use, but also will help avoid a very expensive repair to the piston. I also have to use the spark arrestor because at times I am working near public forests. what I did was invest in the 161 T electric that is heavier, and lacks torque for certain cuts, yet has the speed and balance for more fine punning. yet when you have your health with no exhaust and not the loud sound even with ear protection your going to stay productive and happy. I just use the 150 now only for 30 min a day, rather than for 6 hours like in the past.
I hear ya, I have to use bigger saws alot so I kinda got used to it, stihl is comming out with a new battery saw soon ive heard, im gonna get that one. Thanks for watching 👍
Rich and maybe heavy on the oil? Stihl is 50 to 1 where some other equipment is 40:1 so the stihl needs a little less oil. On mine I run the stihl synthetic oil which also may help and as a precaution I always use 90+ octane fuel. I never have a problem with that combo though and if it cost me an extra buck here or there its not a big deal for less hassle. :^)
Ya I run 40:1, But it was set way rich, It sure runs good now, hasn't missed a beat. But your right the extra oil probably didnt help the tiny opening especially with the screen. I just like 40:1 it's what I run in everything.
1#👍👍
👍
Love to see not everyone is in such desperation to work the weekends. You have an excellent business model if, most of the time, you’re able to spend time with family on the weekends. I would like to know how well the 2511 holds up. Because I would imagine that would be the factor in the price difference. The echo is good saw but will it rattle apart over time. I do think it’s necessary to have a smaller pruning saw. Unless you’re lucky enough to only accept removals. (August). Btw you are a class act. Educated, well spoken, pacified. You should have many more subs.
Appreciate that Brian, The echo does have its quirks, What I love about stihl is that it starts so consistently and reliably and idles all day. The echo is a power house for sure but the quality is lower for sure. Overall I like the echo it seems to run better since I tweaked it but it still has its moments. I'll let you know how it does over time. Have a good sunday 👊
Older tree guy from Ohio here. So I've been running the echo 2511t for couple years now. But liken these light weight saws alot, and wanting to try something else. Should I buy or save my money? I also thought of husky 525.
So the 2511t is going to be the lightest option wich you have, then you could go with a 151tc wich is fairly light as well, you could also look into the 194t wich would be middle ground, as far as the 525 goes it looks decent but I have no experience with it, I believe huskys battery saw is their most popular saw right now, stihl is comming out with a new battery saw very soon so im holding out for that one because I have 2 batteries for stihl already, personally I would go with the 194t, Although its a pound heavier you get more power for your money in my opinion, I may actually get a 194t myself, hope that helps! I'll leave you the 194t link so you can have a look m.en.stihl.ca/STIHL-Products/Chain-Saws-and-Pole-Pruners/Arborist-Chain-Saws/2102606-1528/MS-194-T.aspx?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwY-LBhD6ARIsACvT72MW3q5vxAJ7D2cCwLrMfsGOuwBq0cBEfoDP2Frw-riROyVA6z9UOZcaAuuKEALw_wcB
Just wish i knew how to tune it. Cos lost idle few times. An in oz its humid. But great saw
Hi what was the cutting head that you were using on the Dremel to cut out the metal on the muffler ? Cheers
It was just a carbide burr, you can get them in all shapes and sizes on amazon, also a round file will yield similar results.
@@PoplarMechanic awesome thanks
Does your 150 come with the bumper spike as standard we don’t get that over in the uk have to purchase one to go on?
I believe it does yes.
I recently bought the new upgraded version ms151 with a power upgrade its great out the box but still did this mod on it to make use of the 15% extra power Stihl claim it has.
My saw did the same thing out of the box. Bogging after idling. Sent it back to Stihl twice. Awaiting the verdict.
Update, after two and a half months of waiting, they found out that the sealant that used between the cases was too much, it broke off inside and ended up scarring the cylinder within the first 5 minutes of use, since the saw was back ordered and they no longer make the 150, they finally got around to sending me the newer 151 TCE. Any idea if this mod would work on the newer unit
@@hvguy you should see a gain with this type of mod works on pretty much any chainsaw just dont go overboard or you could lose some torque...on the plus side it would still probably sound better :)... a good rule of thumb is 70 percent bigger than the exhaust port according to tinman ....saw should run cooler therefore better... also i think he mentioned if you go too big it could cause the saw to run lean
Would it be the same method for the 151 mine seems like it's lacking power?
I've never had a 151 but you can pop the muffler off and look, im guessing its the same
Hopefully my sharing your videos helps you grow.
Thanks man! I really appreciate you doing that, I should mention my Instagram more in my videos, I'm working on a logo and some other things, Slowly getting better as time goes on.
This really woke the saw up 🤘
🤙
@@PoplarMechanic did you ever remove the head gasket? I want to try it
@@Jakob.s_ladder not on this one im sure it would work though, most have room
@@Jakob.s_ladder actually I can't remember 100% i think its a clamshell design
@@PoplarMechanic ok thanks for the info
Очень интересное видео, но не чего не понял как он устранил течь масла и проггрев реше ки
Had you done a comparison 150 vs 2511? What did you find out?
2511 is stronger, 150 seems to be more consistent with idling and just runs like a stihl, unfortunately the oiler is kinda shitty on the 150
Chain seems way tight on that saw
👉👍
That saw was definitely too rich. Need to see it in some wood. Hopefully you saved the screen, in case you need to use the saw in very dry conditions or you get a government contract where the screens have to be in place.
We only have one place around here where we need the screens. I saved it for that reason. Ya I knew it was rich but this model was overly rich. Thanks for watching.
I realize it's kinda off topic but do anyone know a good website to watch new series online?
@Aryan Kabir try flixzone. You can find it on google :)
Does it cut any faster or does it just sound better
Honestly it cuts faster, and sounds better, this one is way too restricted
Do you have to adjust the carb when you do this?
Yes
@@PoplarMechanic both jets? I wanna mod my 029 super but dont wanna burn it up
@@PoplarMechanic i have an old jonsered 625 ii and cant get the thing to adjust and stay running probly an air intrusion?
Mine brand new they over tightened the chain wouldn’t hardly run. So I go to loosen the bar nut and they over tightened that too. It stripped the bar stud because it goes into shitty plastic threads. Horrible design and I’m a mechanical engineer. They at least should have had a metal insert for the stud threads. Took it back to where I bought it. They epoxied the stud in. I honestly just wanted a new one since the threads are screwed now. I wish it was designed like the larger saws with 2 bar nuts.
My 150 saw bogs down when cutting and the chain stops any advice?
Ya, its not oiling, take bar and chain off and start the saw, watch to make sure oil is coming out, you'll probably have to air it out, the oiler kinda sucks on the 150
@@PoplarMechanic There is oil coming out. It does spin the chain but when I start cutting it bogs down and the chain stops. It's like the force dies down.
@@urielgonzalezpineda5458 I would check the spark arrestor it may be plugged, or did you do the muffler mod? Thats most common problems with bogging down
@@urielgonzalezpineda5458 or if you feel its more to do with the bar and chain try loosening the chain and cutting, if its the engine bogging its pretty much guaranteed the spark arrestor
do you burn premium gas?
No just petro can cardlock fuel. It's pretty good though. Haven't had a problem in years.
Where will I get it?
How about the cost?
Any stihl dealer. Roughly 400 cad
Hello are you still using this saw !? As battery saws are everywhere
Yes I use it all the time, I rather have the battery husky though, this thing is light and great for trims
@@PoplarMechanic thanks for reply i have a sprocket machined to fit a ms 193 bar and chain on my 161 t and it does great in bigger wood.
Its alive! Haha
Wish i had somebody to work on saws here ✌
Well muffler mods are pretty easy, just keep in mind more air flow requires the jets to be fattened up a bit.
@@PoplarMechanic thanks
No use to compare your saw
to the Echo. There are 500 channels
That has that.
Put the 151TC E COMPARE TO THE 201 tc
Well I can tell you right now the 201 is in a different class, Thanks for watching 🤙
ta chaine est trop tendue
Video does not make sense man
How does it not make sense, widen the muffler hole.