Crash is at 15:30 for those who dont care about watching a bunch of TV planes do laps for 15 minutes. Edit: time stamp used to say 15:00 which is apparently 30 seconds early.
I've just read the final report on the accident. Based on CVR and FDR data, the crew were distracted by the failure of the landing gear to retract and an unruly 2.5 inch passenger, and they failed to monitor the airspeed. A stall ensued but the PF failed to properly respond to stall warnings and stick shaker activation. Other factors include pilot fatigue and low pay.
Imagínate qué uno de esos esté yendo por un aeropuerto, y los controladores aéreos estén meta dándoles órdenes para aterrizar pensado qué es un avión real y aterriza el avión a escala jajajaja
It can be expensive. But honestly, you can enjoy it on a budget as well. I started in the hobby about a year and a half ago. I have several planes and practice flying on Real Flight Simulator. If you’re interested in a great, inexpensive starter plane, that wouldn’t hurt anyone if it was crashed and is easily repairable even if you crash, I started with the XK J3 Cub. It’s has a gyro and SAFE and sells for right around $80-$100. And comes with a Transmitter, which jot all do, as you’ll learn if you stay in the hobby.
@zidge1751 silk shoots dont weight anything, and all you would need is one extra servo to open a hatch. The air would do the rest. Would add a couple lbs, thats nothing on these big planes and would save thousands of dollars in damage not to mentionthe hundreds of hours of work to build something this scale.
If you don’t have the reaction time to recover from an engine out with a twin - I’m thinking you won’t have the reaction time to flip the switch for a chute. First RC twin I had I lost due to engine out. Shoulda just chopped The throttle and treated it like dead stick... instead I went full throttle and lost it due to uneven thrust and lack of speed/control authority.
He lost an engine and was turning into the dead engine. It is an asymmetrical thrust issue at low speed, exacerbated by turning into the dead engine. This happens all the time with full size aircraft pilots flying twins. They get a multiengine ticket with very little training.
@@FacelessMan777 He tried lifting the wing with aileron, and you can see as it rolls on it's side, that the rudder is kept neutral. Top rudder and power reduction could have saved it. So few, understand the use of rudder, other than for steering on the ground.
A wonderful selection of beautiful planes. Very dramatic sky. Many great flights but oh dear - more than sad to see the 330 wreck - hate that because the result is so severe - all the work that had gone into the build - awful.
Very impressive! As a kid in the 1950's who had a non radio controlled model airplane with tethers and a little, hard to start, 2 cycle engine I could not have dreamed that jet power could be mounted on a model and have it fly. It's a shame this airplane augered in. I think of the hundreds of hours of loving, detail oriented work that was required.
@Techrecycle4u , I've still got the scars on the knuckle of my index finger from trying to adjust the fuel air mixture screw on an .049 engine while it was running, that smarts, especially to a 10 y/o, lol.
Damn... what a HORRENDOUS crash! Seeing that made my stomach hurt. On a positive note, the two previous landings were beautiful, especially the 2nd one!
Great video. It's a shame that these planes dont have paved runways for Takeoff and Landing. Seeing Jet Airliners TO and Land on grass really takes away from the realism of these fantastic models.
I have an RC plane with air speed telemetry. The radio can be programmed to alarm at a certain airspeed. It's not that useful on mine, but would be on one like this.
The crash came as quite a shock since the flying was very good and peaceful because the first two jetliners were so quiet. Felt bad for the builder, but I'm sure those in this fantastic hobby understand these things can happen.
When I first got into RC I quickly learned that building and flying were only a small part of the hobby / sport, say 25%. The other 75% was/is all about repair and rebuilding. The bulk of it was spending the time rebuilding aircraft and/or making minor / major repairs. In the case of this crash it's pretty much a "rebuild from scratch" deal. The damage was pretty bad.
I’ve seen smaller planes with emergency parachutes which you can deploy to bring your ‘dead engine’ plane back to earth with as little damage as possible. In this case, an ejection seat was about the best you could react to in time!
It was such an amazing day the sky looked awesome and it was so serene. everything seemed to be in harmony and then the shit hit the fan,it was a shock I was not expecting,the builder will rebuild I'm sure it will grace the skies again soon.better luck next time,keep on flying this is the name of the game.
@@tjk_9000 Not much. Maybe the engine or parts of it. Maybe some of the electronics of it wasn't pulverized in the crash. Otherwise its a total write off.
One engine fails, assymetrical power.. if not managed properly will rapidly turn into what you see here. It's an engine failure leading to a stall/spin.
Dr. Rhumak: "You'd better tell the Captain, we've got to land as soon as we can. This woman has to be gotten to a hospital." Elaine: "A hospital? What is It?" Dr. Rhumak: "It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now."
@@djholro Roger, Roger....Clearance, Clarence... And my favorite scene: "Oh, stewardess! I speak jive."..."Chump don't want no help, chump don't get da help..."
As the guy who taught me to fly RC used to say, "If you want to play, you're going to pay". He said this after I crashed my first, inexpensive trainer airplane. I went on to fly, and crash, many RC models, but all of them put together cost less than just one of the turbine engines in the models in this video. RC has become one ridiculously expensive hobby for some.
I wish they sold RC planes like this is stores all across the world. Because lots of people would buy it because how huge it is and how realistic they are
It's a loss of hours of work, but the corkscrew could really be prevented even with a malfunctioning engine. But as we say, every general is after the battle. Anyway, the three models in the air were impressive.
Yes, its flying too slow. You can see the pitch required to maintain level flight is too high and those semi scale wings don't give you a lot of warning. As soon as he added some bank which required slightly more back pressure the inside wing changed its mind about flying. Damn shame. I have neen working on an aoa sensor small enough for these models but there must be a reason they dont tend to have them.
"We all have the same feelings back here at the station Kal. Thank you for the continued coverage of this diminutive disaster. A terrible tiny tragedy indeed, they will be missed."
@@j-rocd9507 I must take exception to your gravely insensitive comments ( pun not intended) The size of the individuals involved does not in any way diminish the scale of this unspeakable tragedy . I myself stand a proud 4.3 mm tall and let me tell you , life is hard enough ----------------
@@calum66 It is with no small sense of shame that I apologize if you thought I would intentionally belittle you or the petite passengers who's live were cut shorter than their growth spurts. My rude comment was dwarfed by your pride Sir.
@@j-rocd9507 Apology accepted - I would have replied sooner but I am having to literally jump from key to key in order to type this message - also I am currently getting buzzed by an exceptionally large housefly. Good luck sir and please - watch where you tread!
Thanks so much for this video! These planes have truly stunning realism! Sadly, they also crash like real planes do... It must be devastating for the modeller to see his pride and joy destroyed.
Got to get the NTSB out for an investigation. I thought I seen a flame out on the port Engine but I may be mistaken. Got to recover the black boxes and determine if it was mechanical or human error. But it was a beautiful sight when they were all up there flying in a fleet.i think that really looks cool them flying together instead of by themselves.
You don't really need one when you tip stall in front of everyone. What he needed was more speed. Its a easy mistake to make. Many have made it including myself. Also yes there are data recorders/monitors that you can use that tell you all sorts of flight data on RC models. Telemetry, power levels/fuel, gps with auto level/recovery return to home etc etc. Its pretty cool what's happening in the hobby.
After such a brilliant three aircraft display, then two superb landings, how shocking is it to see that event? Thank you to the builder/ pilot for showing the aircraft and I hope it was possible to gain insight into the probable cause.
Done a few of these myself but never with a model that large and sophisticated, always a risky part of the landing making that last turn to line up the strip.
yup have had to learn the hard way to make a long straight approach losing altitude in the final trurn to avoid tip stall and if i over shoot add power go around a try again,,it is that forced missed approach that pilots do not want in front of so many spectators
@@wuffa4503 People forget that in a turn, some of your lift is converted to the horizontal. Give up too much airspeed in the turn, and you're in trouble. Sometimes people will overshoot on the turn and try to crank it back to the runway heading. At low speed and low altitude, that's a recipe for trouble. There's a reason that landing is considered the most dangerous phase of flight. You have to manage airspeed, power, flaps, decent rate, turns, runway alignment, all of that at once. As a pilot, I think that in many ways, landing an actual airplane is easier than RC. You have instruments. You have the "seat of the pants" feedback. Your POV is always in line with the plane's flightpath. Setting up a stabilized approach in a Cessna 172 is a lot easier than in an RC aircraft.
I love the arm chair air crew who would not be at all fazed by an asymmetric thrust situation where the dead engine is not identified and there is no way of knowing which turn is safest, down wind at an air show with low fuel and a heavy air frame...
Love those Air Liners ,They look very expensive are they ? -Thanks for sharing ,but spare a thought for their "Passengers " the way they are being thrown about LOL
I agree. He banked sharply, lost too much lift and couldn't recover in time. What a sad end to Plane that will have taken a lot of time, money, craftmanship and skills to build. Really sad.
Same would happen if you turn into the dead engine (in this case possibly the left engine failed and that could explain why he lost speed too) or if you use too much rudder in the turn which would cause it to skid and spin in the same direction as the bank. You are always safer using too little rudder than too much.
@@jakobusstrauss Agreed. I believe it may have also been a freak gust of wind that made it lose a lot of lift as it was banking too sharply and using too much rudder ?? Like a combination of bad events all happening at same time maybe ? Such a shame! The flight had gone so well up to that point!
@@wesleydonnelly2141 very possible. That is the problem with flying RC. We have got no feedback about rudder coordination and angle of attack. We have to judge it all by what looks right and most of the time our eyes deceive us.
@@TheFrenchPugEasy to forget. I learned during my PPL! 'Long time ago but still remember - ya gotta! I can't imagine anyone flying a plane that expensive without an F7 FC with fly-by-wire modes. Yet to fly / crash the first of two RC wings I just bought, though!
@@TheFrenchPug Except it was a twin - with less torque effect than a single. I saw a fellow student do a ground loop practicing solo touch and goes after he forgot full right rudder to compensate for torque on lift off! First time I called 911! 'Luckily just a few bruised ribs, egos, and a summons back home to the UK from his irate missus! Caught it on cable later in motel in Clearwater FL!
I really did feel for the pilot, It is very sad when you consider the time and cost involved in building such a craft and to cap it all he did put on such a admirable display and to be rewarded in such a cruel manner. 😔
Indeed, losing lift through exceeding the maximum angle of attack (AOA) of the wing (inside wing stalling first through less speed through the air - inducing a spin to the port) exacerbated by low speed + excessive bank (reduced lift), causing tip stall, AFAIK?
They look like the real deal silhouetted against the sky. It would also be nice to see some propliners up there such as the DC3, DC6, Constellation, Stratocruiser, etc.
I wonder if they will ask the NTSB to help in this investigation? Looks to me like pilot error but we will find out when the final report comes out in a year or so.
Should have descended through the turn to final, trading some altitude for speed. This would have avoided the stall and left him lined up for final and a nice deadstick landing. The plane was OBVIOUSLY losing speed at the end of the downwind run, yet pilot did nothing about it and simply continued with his normal approach, all but assuring the stall and crash! Pilot error, 100%!
And how was he supposed to know what engine flamed out and what way to turn into the dead engine? Its a crap shoot standing on the ground looking up. Had the same thing happen only with a prop driven and got lucky
@@jordancoleman2402 by decending through the truth to final, he would've been able to reduce throttle, allowing the decent to provide speed. The plane was absolutely savable. The real problem is that we don't typically practice emergency situations, ever. The only time we ever see a failure is in real life. I actually have my simulator set to throw out random dead sick and out of trim conditions. I know how to fly under perfect conditions, I'm more concerned about learning to fly calmly under abnormal conditions.
My theory: engine failed/lost power. The other engine still had power. Instead of idling, landing straight ahead he tried to turn back. Too slow in the turn - stall - spin.
I don’t think there was an engine failure. He just turned to hard and stalled. If there gad been an engine failure there would have been a ton of yaw and there wasn’t. It was a classic stall spin.
Doh! . Oh, well perhaps time to find another hobby... . The VC10 was very nice and I suspect would have won an all-out speed test with the other two. The B707 was also beautifully crafted, as was the Comet and Brittannia (?) And it was nice seeing the Boeing on fly past with its contemporary the VC10.
The first two landings were very smooth and gentle, well executed. Air Berlin looks like some air accident investigation will be needed before it can take off again.
Crash is at 15:30 for those who dont care about watching a bunch of TV planes do laps for 15 minutes.
Edit: time stamp used to say 15:00 which is apparently 30 seconds early.
Thank you, I did not have to watch the whole mess.
Thanks ☺️👍
Yup thanks. 15 min of my life saved
@ lololol
Cut to the chase
I've just read the final report on the accident. Based on CVR and FDR data, the crew were distracted by the failure of the landing gear to retract and an unruly 2.5 inch passenger, and they failed to monitor the airspeed. A stall ensued but the PF failed to properly respond to stall warnings and stick shaker activation. Other factors include pilot fatigue and low pay.
I heard the PF wasn’t breathing😎
I think I saw the same thing on The Flight Channel.
2.5" no wonder. Everybody else was probably 1/2" and they failed to overtake Paul bunion. Has ISIS claimed responsibility?
Hahahahaha great one guys. You forgot to add the PF was distracted because his job being threatened by covid
75 little green army men lost their lives that day. A mass grave was dug for them. A entire shoe box had to be used.
What a Great Hobby! Looks Expensive though. Once they're airborne, you can't tell the difference between real or model
They are real airplanes, the only 2 differences are the size and manned/unmanned 👍🏼
Imagínate qué uno de esos esté yendo por un aeropuerto, y los controladores aéreos estén meta dándoles órdenes para aterrizar pensado qué es un avión real y aterriza el avión a escala jajajaja
It can be expensive. But honestly, you can enjoy it on a budget as well. I started in the hobby about a year and a half ago. I have several planes and practice flying on Real Flight Simulator. If you’re interested in a great, inexpensive starter plane, that wouldn’t hurt anyone if it was crashed and is easily repairable even if you crash, I started with the XK J3 Cub. It’s has a gyro and SAFE and sells for right around $80-$100. And comes with a Transmitter, which jot all do, as you’ll learn if you stay in the hobby.
An emergency ballistic parachute would probably be a good idea for expensive models.
videoclipits great idea. 👍👍
That is a great idea, double umbrella shoots coming out of a hatch close to CG.
@zidge1751 silk shoots dont weight anything, and all you would need is one extra servo to open a hatch. The air would do the rest. Would add a couple lbs, thats nothing on these big planes and would save thousands of dollars in damage not to mentionthe hundreds of hours of work to build something this scale.
A quick Google search brought up Fruity Chutes. Maybe worth checking out for an expensive plane or something big enough to cause damage on the ground.
If you don’t have the reaction time to recover from an engine out with a twin - I’m thinking you won’t have the reaction time to flip the switch for a chute.
First RC twin I had I lost due to engine out. Shoulda just chopped
The throttle and treated it like dead stick... instead I went full throttle and lost it due to uneven thrust and lack of speed/control authority.
Couple of really nice landings, but that last one was a nasty tip stall. Poor guy would've been devastated. Great video. 👍
Bank angle
Bank angle
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He lost an engine and was turning into the dead engine. It is an asymmetrical thrust issue at low speed, exacerbated by turning into the dead engine. This happens all the time with full size aircraft pilots flying twins. They get a multiengine ticket with very little training.
@@FacelessMan777 He tried lifting the wing with aileron, and you can see as it rolls on it's side, that the rudder is kept neutral. Top rudder and power reduction could have saved it. So few, understand the use of rudder, other than for steering on the ground.
The other Good engine was almost sucking air too! Fly too long ,run out of fuel, run to the pub!
@@FacelessMan777 yer I thought it may have lost an engine, did the big face plant!
very good and great work
Beautiful sunshow coming through the clouds.
Wow! Really all so beautiful machines
You really needed to let us hear them start up and shut down. It’s the highlight of having turbines...
My sympathies. So many hours of work. The first thing they taught me at the RC field was "It ain't if, it's when."
I like that.
A wonderful selection of beautiful planes. Very dramatic sky. Many great flights but oh dear - more than sad to see the 330 wreck - hate that because the result is so severe - all the work that had gone into the build - awful.
well at least he has all the parts to build a new one as there was no fire and the long nose absorbed all the impact.
MEDIC!
FYI: the kid in my heart is so jealous! Those are super cool models!!!
That damn RC air hostess spilt coffee on the captain!!
Very impressive! As a kid in the 1950's who had a non radio controlled model airplane with tethers and a little, hard to start, 2 cycle engine I could not have dreamed that jet power could be mounted on a model and have it fly. It's a shame this airplane augered in. I think of the hundreds of hours of loving, detail oriented work that was required.
It's amazing how far we've come.
I always crashed within 10 seconds. Those sure looked cool anyway!
As a kid, I always had bad luck with model airplanes. One reason why I got into model ships!
@Techrecycle4u ,
I've still got the scars on the knuckle of my index finger from trying to adjust the fuel air mixture screw on an .049 engine while it was running, that smarts, especially to a 10 y/o, lol.
Damn... what a HORRENDOUS crash! Seeing that made my stomach hurt. On a positive note, the two previous landings were beautiful, especially the 2nd one!
Wow, that MD-11 even has the engine noise at scale !
consistently good camera work - thanks!
Agreed
I could watch that Il-62 all day. Smooth!
those are bad ass toys, when I was a kid you bought a little kit with 3 or 4 parts and a rubberband engine lmao, but I had hours of fun....
Huh?
Yeah, that's still what KIDS buy.
Wonderful 👍👍👍 And It’s amazing to see the name of your country on a plane Uzbekistan 👍👍👍
I loved the 3 different types of planes flying in unison. Sad to see the 330 crash.
Great video. It's a shame that these planes dont have paved runways for Takeoff and Landing.
Seeing Jet Airliners TO and Land on grass really takes away from the realism of these fantastic models.
Suck that the plane crashed, but great to see all the 3 planes in the air at the same time. Super nice video.
That is absolutely amazing. Tiny little jet engines, what a great getaway. Continued success.
That second landing was 👌🏽
Beautiful. Sensational. Spectacular. 👍
Love the Comet!
Thanks for the video.
I'm glad I missed that flight.
Sorry to see that bad break.. Nice Jet.
I feel for the guy that lost this lovely model...
Es la mas hermosa y divertida forma de invertir el tiempo, gracias
"Stall warning! Stall warning! STALL WARNING!"
Best way out of a stall, bank hard left...
TERRAIN TERRAIN, WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP
BANK ANG-PULL UP, TERRAIN
human failure not engine failure
I have an RC plane with air speed telemetry. The radio can be programmed to alarm at a certain airspeed. It's not that useful on mine, but would be on one like this.
Most satisfying ending !!
The crash came as quite a shock since the flying was very good and peaceful because the first two jetliners were so quiet. Felt bad for the builder, but I'm sure those in this fantastic hobby understand these things can happen.
When I first got into RC I quickly learned that building and flying were only a small part of the hobby / sport, say 25%. The other 75% was/is all about repair and rebuilding. The bulk of it was spending the time rebuilding aircraft and/or making minor / major repairs. In the case of this crash it's pretty much a "rebuild from scratch" deal. The damage was pretty bad.
I’ve seen smaller planes with emergency parachutes which you can deploy to bring your ‘dead engine’ plane back to earth with as little damage as possible. In this case, an ejection seat was about the best you could react to in time!
It was such an amazing day the sky looked awesome and it was so serene. everything seemed to be in harmony and then the shit hit the fan,it was a shock I was not expecting,the builder will rebuild I'm sure it will grace the skies again soon.better luck next time,keep on flying this is the name of the game.
@@WitchidWitchid ill say...what can you salvage from a wreck like that?
@@tjk_9000 Not much. Maybe the engine or parts of it. Maybe some of the electronics of it wasn't pulverized in the crash. Otherwise its a total write off.
Sorry for your loss. Great work.
Looked like tip stall and not failed engine.
'Looked like possible failed pride!
But an engine failure might have looked just the same?
yeah that was no engine failure. Pure turn stall error on the pilot.
Yep! He rushed it, instead of calling for a turn around! 🤔
One engine fails, assymetrical power.. if not managed properly will rapidly turn into what you see here. It's an engine failure leading to a stall/spin.
So the silence of no engine wasn't a factor huh?
Wonderful!👍👍👍👍
"Al Qaeda is taking credit for the downing of a passenger plan this afternoon...."
A majestic plane one min, a second later bagpipes playing Amazing grace.
Bobby Chudona;
Yep, it seems the model and the real plane have a lot in common. You just don't hear about the real problems though.
"STRIKER! That plane can't land itself, it takes a pilot that can handle pressure!!" -Rex Cramer 'Airplane'
Dr. Rhumak: "You'd better tell the Captain, we've got to land as soon as we can. This woman has to be gotten to a hospital."
Elaine: "A hospital? What is It?"
Dr. Rhumak: "It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now."
@@djholro Roger, Roger....Clearance, Clarence... And my favorite scene: "Oh, stewardess! I speak jive."..."Chump don't want no help, chump don't get da help..."
"I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue."
@@1978garfield "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit Amphetamines"
@@Kodos2024 I prefer black , like my men !
Waaooo excelente 👌 👍 volando profesional desde Puerto Rico José Rafael Ramirez
As the guy who taught me to fly RC used to say, "If you want to play, you're going to pay". He said this after I crashed my first, inexpensive trainer airplane. I went on to fly, and crash, many RC models, but all of them put together cost less than just one of the turbine engines in the models in this video. RC has become one ridiculously expensive hobby for some.
They ALL eventually crash.
I wish they sold RC planes like this is stores all across the world. Because lots of people would buy it because how huge it is and how realistic they are
It's a loss of hours of work, but the corkscrew could really be prevented even with a malfunctioning engine. But as we say, every general is after the battle. Anyway, the three models in the air were impressive.
too much banking
@@whoknows8225 exceeded the critical angle of attack and stalled a wing…if at higher altitude he may have been able to recover.
Yes, its flying too slow. You can see the pitch required to maintain level flight is too high and those semi scale wings don't give you a lot of warning. As soon as he added some bank which required slightly more back pressure the inside wing changed its mind about flying. Damn shame. I have neen working on an aoa sensor small enough for these models but there must be a reason they dont tend to have them.
Beautiful aircraft, nice piloting, great sky - and ouch! 🙁😖
To me that looked like a stall. The left wing looked like it just stoped flying . Maybe the plane was going to slow for a turn the sharp
He almost dropped that left wing between 13:35 and 13:37 as well.
Definitely a stall. I actually thought it was going too slow in that turn just before it happened.
“Too” slow
Yes stalled but we don't know why he slowed down that much? Did one engine go out? Why would they say it if it didn't happen?
@@Flight6677 video title is rc plane engine failure with sad end.
Great Show..very nice RCs. Great people..and audiences..But Why They have Grass as a Runway ?come on...grass?
My heart goes out the the little pilot and all his little passengers.
"We all have the same feelings back here at the station Kal. Thank you for the continued coverage of this diminutive disaster. A terrible tiny tragedy indeed, they will be missed."
@@j-rocd9507 I must take exception to your gravely insensitive comments ( pun not intended) The size of the individuals involved does not in any way diminish the scale of this unspeakable tragedy . I myself stand a proud 4.3 mm tall and let me tell you , life is hard enough ----------------
@@calum66 It is with no small sense of shame that I apologize if you thought I would intentionally belittle you or the petite passengers who's live were cut shorter than their growth spurts. My rude comment was dwarfed by your pride Sir.
@@j-rocd9507 Apology accepted - I would have replied sooner but I am having to literally jump from key to key in order to type this message - also I am currently getting buzzed by an exceptionally large housefly. Good luck sir and please - watch where you tread!
Gotta love the jets. The most efficient machine in the world for converting fuel and dollars into noise.
Thanks so much for this video! These planes have truly stunning realism! Sadly, they also crash like real planes do... It must be devastating for the modeller to see his pride and joy destroyed.
Real Airliners don't plummet to the ground after an engine failure dude
Expensive for a hobby, even more so that way, but nice flying.
Go to 15:25 to see what the title is all about , very BORING
Thanks.
saved me 15 minutes haha thanks!
RC planes are anything but boring.
I was half expecting to see a bunch of mini RC fire engines and ambulances rushing to the scene
Got to get the NTSB out for an investigation. I thought I seen a flame out on the port Engine but I may be mistaken. Got to recover the black boxes and determine if it was mechanical or human error. But it was a beautiful sight when they were all up there flying in a fleet.i think that really looks cool them flying together instead of by themselves.
The ntsb does cases on real planes they try to prevent it from happening again
Супер модели! Супер видео! 👍
These things are so big and so accurate I am surprised they dont have Flight Data Recorders.
You don't really need one when you tip stall in front of everyone. What he needed was more speed. Its a easy mistake to make. Many have made it including myself. Also yes there are data recorders/monitors that you can use that tell you all sorts of flight data on RC models. Telemetry, power levels/fuel, gps with auto level/recovery return to home etc etc. Its pretty cool what's happening in the hobby.
It be nice to have some type of portable runway they could lay out for these awesome machines. They deserve a Real runway surface
That thump hurt my heart and to hear the turbines slowly putter out supa sad 😢
"Pull up Pull up Pull up!" WARNING! Awesome vid and models. Thanks for posting. 👊
After such a brilliant three aircraft display, then two superb landings, how shocking is it to see that event? Thank you to the builder/ pilot for showing the aircraft and I hope it was possible to gain insight into the probable cause.
That was awesome!
Done a few of these myself but never with a model that large and sophisticated, always a risky part of the landing making that last turn to line up the strip.
yup have had to learn the hard way to make a long straight approach losing altitude in the final trurn to avoid tip stall and if i over shoot add power go around a try again,,it is that forced missed approach that pilots do not want in front of so many spectators
@@wuffa4503 People forget that in a turn, some of your lift is converted to the horizontal. Give up too much airspeed in the turn, and you're in trouble. Sometimes people will overshoot on the turn and try to crank it back to the runway heading. At low speed and low altitude, that's a recipe for trouble. There's a reason that landing is considered the most dangerous phase of flight. You have to manage airspeed, power, flaps, decent rate, turns, runway alignment, all of that at once. As a pilot, I think that in many ways, landing an actual airplane is easier than RC. You have instruments. You have the "seat of the pants" feedback. Your POV is always in line with the plane's flightpath. Setting up a stabilized approach in a Cessna 172 is a lot easier than in an RC aircraft.
Words can not say about a brilliant skills of. Pilots
I love the arm chair air crew who would not be at all fazed by an asymmetric thrust situation where the dead engine is not identified and there is no way of knowing which turn is safest, down wind at an air show with low fuel and a heavy air frame...
Love those Air Liners ,They look very expensive are they ? -Thanks for sharing ,but spare a thought for their "Passengers " the way they are being thrown about LOL
Don’t think that was an engine failure,
It looks like a tip stall. Real shame.
Yep turning too slow without adding power
I agree. He banked sharply, lost too much lift and couldn't recover in time. What a sad end to Plane that will have taken a lot of time, money, craftmanship and skills to build. Really sad.
Same would happen if you turn into the dead engine (in this case possibly the left engine failed and that could explain why he lost speed too) or if you use too much rudder in the turn which would cause it to skid and spin in the same direction as the bank. You are always safer using too little rudder than too much.
@@jakobusstrauss Agreed. I believe it may have also been a freak gust of wind that made it lose a lot of lift as it was banking too sharply and using too much rudder ?? Like a combination of bad events all happening at same time maybe ? Such a shame! The flight had gone so well up to that point!
@@wesleydonnelly2141 very possible. That is the problem with flying RC. We have got no feedback about rudder coordination and angle of attack. We have to judge it all by what looks right and most of the time our eyes deceive us.
Wow, these German RC builders must be doing well in rheir economy. These airplanes are an expensive endeavor to persue.
"Throttle up! Throttle up!"
Doesn't matter - a wing can stall at any speed! You need the correct attitude not to exceed the max AOA! Nose down, nose down!
@@johnd.ingleson799 I learned that lesson trying to land a few RC planes unfortunately :)
@@TheFrenchPugEasy to forget. I learned during my PPL! 'Long time ago but still remember - ya gotta! I can't imagine anyone flying a plane that expensive without an F7 FC with fly-by-wire modes. Yet to fly / crash the first of two RC wings I just bought, though!
@@johnd.ingleson799 Agreed. You can flip that thing just from the torque. Been there done that too :)
@@TheFrenchPug Except it was a twin - with less torque effect than a single. I saw a fellow student do a ground loop practicing solo touch and goes after he forgot full right rudder to compensate for torque on lift off! First time I called 911! 'Luckily just a few bruised ribs, egos, and a summons back home to the UK from his irate missus! Caught it on cable later in motel in Clearwater FL!
I didn't hear an engine go out but i saw a real good tip stall
Wow this is so amazing what is the weight limit or ballast that the RC can fly if it is loaded and very heavy. he supports how many kilograms?
I've seen many rc models, but I sure would like to see the Spruce Goose. Is there one out there?
I really did feel for the pilot, It is very sad when you consider the time and cost involved in building such a craft and to cap it all he did put on such a admirable display and to be rewarded in such a cruel manner. 😔
Thank you, wish a Happy New Year
Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 14 Dec 21.
that was a tip stall … looked like to harder bank on finals
Indeed, losing lift through exceeding the maximum angle of attack (AOA) of the wing (inside wing stalling first through less speed through the air - inducing a spin to the port) exacerbated by low speed + excessive bank (reduced lift), causing tip stall, AFAIK?
They look like the real deal silhouetted against the sky. It would also be nice to see some propliners up there such as the DC3, DC6, Constellation, Stratocruiser, etc.
I wonder if they will ask the NTSB to help in this investigation? Looks to me like pilot error but we will find out when the final report comes out in a year or so.
I like the one that has 4 motors in the back it looks so good flying
put the controls at my feet and walk to my car, drive home.
Genuinely feel for that guy, the time, the coin : / .
As an RC friend once said, "airplanes (RC) are built to be crashed.". This was when we were in A&P school
Those poor little people who perished in that horrible crash! Yukyuk 🤣💥
I hope the small 🚑 got there.
*BANK ANGLE woop woop BANK ANGLE* , then stall warning *STALL STALL* *TERRAIN TERRAIN* *FULL UP FULL UP* then 💥💥💥🔥🔥
Should have descended through the turn to final, trading some altitude for speed. This would have avoided the stall and left him lined up for final and a nice deadstick landing. The plane was OBVIOUSLY losing speed at the end of the downwind run, yet pilot did nothing about it and simply continued with his normal approach, all but assuring the stall and crash! Pilot error, 100%!
Thanks maverick
@@williamwallace9427 Your sarcasm doesn't defeat knowledge and facts, it is cute though. Has your mommy ever seen it? She would be so proud. 🦚
And how was he supposed to know what engine flamed out and what way to turn into the dead engine? Its a crap shoot standing on the ground looking up. Had the same thing happen only with a prop driven and got lucky
@@jordancoleman2402 by decending through the truth to final, he would've been able to reduce throttle, allowing the decent to provide speed. The plane was absolutely savable. The real problem is that we don't typically practice emergency situations, ever. The only time we ever see a failure is in real life. I actually have my simulator set to throw out random dead sick and out of trim conditions. I know how to fly under perfect conditions, I'm more concerned about learning to fly calmly under abnormal conditions.
Fantastic let’s see some more crashes, shit boring without crashing 💥
My theory: engine failed/lost power. The other engine still had power. Instead of idling, landing straight ahead he tried to turn back. Too slow in the turn - stall - spin.
I don’t think there was an engine failure. He just turned to hard and stalled. If there gad been an engine failure there would have been a ton of yaw and there wasn’t. It was a classic stall spin.
Nice video and some great planes! I feel bad for the builder of the A330 that stalled due to the turbine failure.
Base to final stall spin... the deadly turn!
I'm intrigued by the zero dihedral of the A340. Wonder why he built it that way...
BEA didn’t have Comet 1s and engine position and spacing were incorrect along with nose form and windows. Maybe altered for model aerodynamic reasons.
Doh!
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Oh, well perhaps time to find another hobby...
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The VC10 was very nice and I suspect would have won an all-out speed test with the other two. The B707 was also beautifully crafted, as was the Comet and Brittannia (?) And it was nice seeing the Boeing on fly past with its contemporary the VC10.
The saddest part is that Ken was the pilot and Barbie is now a widow.
So you're saying there's a chance?
6yjjk No, she’s already hooked up with GI Joe.
You really need to show the entire crash,with emotions,and collecting of the parts
It's a good thing I missed that flight
shame about the crash. Such a lovely hobby and spectacle to be involved in. Lot of hard work crashed with it.
It stalled. Way too slow on the turn to finals.
@S. Mesut my first wife suffered from differential trust issues.
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1st ...... repeated error of Marriage in "these days" ? (just teasing)
All the Best - to ALL.
FINAL!!!!! Not “finals”
@@b1bmsgt What are you yelling for? It's not that big of a deal. Take a breath and relax.
Agreed. Looks like the left wing stalled, which makes sense as it was turning left.
The first two landings were very smooth and gentle, well executed. Air Berlin looks like some air accident investigation will be needed before it can take off again.
No sound of engine failure. Tipstall due to low speed?! Yes
Bingo
Love the Are Lingus model.🇮🇪
I wonder how many dollars just dug a hole in the ground....Dang!
I don’t know the amount of money but it was a couple of thousand man hours.
@@bertvdlast one got sold the other day, asking price 22000 €
@@PHPJN7. No thanks, i think digging a hole with a shovel is cheaper.
@@bertvdlast With the foam construction, I'll bet it hardly made a dent in the ground!
It was very interesting at first watching a number of large RC planes, but after a while it just gets boring.
Looks like it’s the same type of reason of RamysRC A330 crashed.
Very nice