Guitar Action Is Too High - Shave Saddle Instead Of Adjust Truss Rod

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  • @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr
    @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr Рік тому +213

    To all the people saying he should just adjust the truss rod, you can pivot the strings as much as you want off the 2 points but if the points (nut/saddle) are too high to begin with you can old do so much with a truss rod. With electric I shave the nut if it’s too high at the 1st fret. This was actually a great short about acoustics.

    • @Super_Nope_13
      @Super_Nope_13 5 місяців тому +4

      Truss rods are to set proper relief in the neck, not to adjust action. Setting relief might effect action but is not the reason to adjust truss rod. Order od operations should be...
      Tune to pitch
      Adjust/set relief
      Retune
      Measure action at the 12th
      Adjust action at 12 by sanding saddle/adding shim/making new saddle
      Then measure and adjust string height/action at the nut

    • @Christianflowarts
      @Christianflowarts 3 місяці тому

      This is a nylon string guitar. There is no truss rod in the neck.

    • @Super_Nope_13
      @Super_Nope_13 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Christianflowarts are you trolling right now? Haha

    • @Christianflowarts
      @Christianflowarts 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Super_Nope_13 yeah I must’ve been drunk idk why I commented this on an obviously steel string acoustic 🤣

    • @FlatpickRei
      @FlatpickRei 2 місяці тому +2

      truss rods are to adjust relief, not to adjust the action.

  • @Talon18136
    @Talon18136 2 місяці тому +3

    This is what I did the action on my new guitar wasn’t too bad out of the box it was a cheap jasmine I didn’t want to spend too much in case I didn’t stick with learning I did it with two picks put together and dropped at the 12th fret as my measurement. It worked like a charm

  • @Edwin-E
    @Edwin-E Рік тому +45

    check the neck relief first to make sure that the neck is straight before shaving the saddle.

    • @carlmarx6427
      @carlmarx6427 6 місяців тому

      How to check the relief 😢

    • @Edwin-E
      @Edwin-E 6 місяців тому +9

      @@carlmarx6427 Quick way to check is press 6th string on the 1st fret and 14 fret, then check the gap between strings on the 7th fret. That should be very small, almost touching.

    • @diggetydug
      @diggetydug 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@Edwin-E if it is straight, then I need to shave the saddle? My 1st fret is already pretty close. Worried the rod will create a buzz if I fix it there. 12th fret is close to a 1/8" gap.

    • @thrashtronaut999
      @thrashtronaut999 4 місяці тому

      @@diggetydugif it is straight, your trustrod does not need adjustment. Then moving on to the saddle, follow the original video.

  • @vbeats3054
    @vbeats3054 Рік тому +7

    Thankyou, Quite informative & helpful in short 👍🏻

  • @limon.9575
    @limon.9575 Рік тому +163

    Thanks for the tip I’ll reward you some nail clippers

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Рік тому +17

      ❤️thank u

    • @edgarochoa5807
      @edgarochoa5807 Рік тому +21

      At least they’re clean, I’m sure he uses them to strum. And pick a booger or two. I know I would!

    • @limon.9575
      @limon.9575 Рік тому +2

      @@edgarochoa5807 lmaoooo

    • @Motorcycledailies
      @Motorcycledailies 11 місяців тому +3

      the coke nail

    • @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
      @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 9 місяців тому +9

      Nah, I bet he clips his left hand nails regularly. That's how you spot a guitarist, short nails on one hand, long nails on the other! 🙂

  • @godzilla964
    @godzilla964 Рік тому +11

    I need to do that with my classical guitar.

  • @NHAnimation-ms4ig
    @NHAnimation-ms4ig 25 днів тому +6

    Meanwhile my fake guitar is like more than 4 cm. Didn't have truss rod and the bridge is too high, that didn't have pin on bridge.

  • @stoicsceptic8420
    @stoicsceptic8420 8 місяців тому +2

    This is light on actual detailed information , dangerous !

  • @davewoelkers6189
    @davewoelkers6189 9 місяців тому +6

    I keep mine .10 and .85 usually at the 12th. Humidity is a huge factor in maintaining that so it’s more ideal to do 1/4 turn adjustments on the truss rod. Shaving the saddle would make more sense after a fret dressing

    • @NipunKushSrivastava
      @NipunKushSrivastava 2 місяці тому

      How to shave the saddle? Can I just rub it against the ruler?

    • @Blackfang_12
      @Blackfang_12 Місяць тому +1

      @@NipunKushSrivastava sandpaper or a flat metal file. I've used a flat metal file to save time and finished it with 600 grit sandpaper on a bone saddle.

  • @carlosruizesparza3760
    @carlosruizesparza3760 3 місяці тому +1

    most string height issues on acoustic guitars come from the guitar top arching and the neck sinking into the guitar, shave the saddle is just a placebo

  • @kevinkopelman
    @kevinkopelman 7 місяців тому +6

    Saddle needs to be shaved only after first making sure nut slots and truss rod are correct. If you adjust nut and truss after, you will probably have to change your saddle height again afterward and now it might be too low.

  • @sanzuisanzui460
    @sanzuisanzui460 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for this❤

  • @pardeepsharma3414
    @pardeepsharma3414 2 місяці тому +1

    done for my guitar. Now it is much easier to play

  • @andhikanazrilshidiq8062
    @andhikanazrilshidiq8062 2 місяці тому +1

    You should always ensure that the neck is straight before attempting to do this, still.

  • @SenfMustard
    @SenfMustard 19 днів тому

    You should adjust the truss rod if it needs adjusting though. A straight truss rod not only sets the action but also allows the guitar to vibrate and play better.
    Action from the saddle should only be done once the truss rod has been adjusted properly

  • @wwefans4819
    @wwefans4819 Рік тому

    i try this it work thanks man

  • @marbomangu5023
    @marbomangu5023 Рік тому +5

    Thanks man

  • @EmmuFlicks
    @EmmuFlicks 11 місяців тому +6

    im scared ill shave too much lol

  • @aechennn
    @aechennn 7 місяців тому

    How you compute how much mm to cut on saddle after you got 3.4 mm and high e of 2.6?

  • @mike23639
    @mike23639 6 місяців тому +2

    Check for shims under the saddle before you shave.

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 Рік тому +66

    Make a permanent change instead of adjusting a part that's meant to be adjusted. Got it.

    • @yardbirdsweet
      @yardbirdsweet Рік тому +74

      Saddles are cheap and easily replaceable, and sanding them is an extremely common part of setting up an acoustic’s action to a player’s preference. No need to be snarky.

    • @Eskii_NZL
      @Eskii_NZL Рік тому +11

      Well why not? If you want your action to be specific why not make a permanent change instead of having to readjust every time you hear feet buzzing

    • @qiamdof
      @qiamdof Рік тому

      i think he meant adjusting the trust rod

    • @armadillolizard711
      @armadillolizard711 Рік тому +2

      I actually NEED to sand my saddle down since I just got it. If this short isn't for you just stfu.😁

    • @ky.5473
      @ky.5473 Рік тому +7

      In some case, the neck is not adjustable. In classical nylon guitar for example you really have to sand the saddle since classical guitar doesn't have truss rod

  • @Leon-Coils19912
    @Leon-Coils19912 Рік тому +1

    Nice can u sand off the nut aswell?

  • @teen90s
    @teen90s Рік тому

    เยี่ยมมากครับกำลังหาวิธีอยู่เลย

  • @arroncajigas4260
    @arroncajigas4260 10 місяців тому

    Is this has a full video?

  • @NgalaRaey
    @NgalaRaey 8 місяців тому

    Please can you do for electric guitar please

  • @joe1205
    @joe1205 Рік тому +1

    I have a fender strat and an older cheap rock jam one. Since I got my fender, I play it all the time. I picked up my old one and started playing it the other day and haven't picked it up since because the action is so high. I don't know if it was always that high.
    Do you know how I can reduce it?

    • @FenderFanboy91
      @FenderFanboy91 11 місяців тому +2

      Adjust the saddles with a small allen wrench

  • @toomuchsugarush7821
    @toomuchsugarush7821 Місяць тому +2

    mine is 6 mm 💀💀

  • @joeyy4950
    @joeyy4950 8 місяців тому

    Bro i did that too but it's so hard to tune now, the strings are breaking cause i keep on twisting the tuning keys just to reach the standard tune

  • @superbuilders
    @superbuilders Рік тому +30

    My low e is 5.5 mm and i can shred imagine the pain 😩

    • @everythingfromadam
      @everythingfromadam 11 місяців тому +7

      You ok, man?😳

    • @Doesitmatter00710
      @Doesitmatter00710 10 місяців тому +1

      Same here i have to do that first i was thinking to tighten up truss rod but there was not so much bend at all.

    • @Someone-sv6re
      @Someone-sv6re 8 місяців тому +2

      Is it juarez guitar?

    • @Someone-sv6re
      @Someone-sv6re 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Doesitmatter00710hello

    • @superbuilders
      @superbuilders 8 місяців тому +3

      @saikiran00710 mine is a cheap 10 dollar guitar no truss rod barley tunes

  • @RogerioDuarte
    @RogerioDuarte 10 місяців тому +2

    saddle less than 3mm kill the sound

  • @99gamerz78
    @99gamerz78 Рік тому +1

    Can anyone help me my guitar action is too high more then 1.5cm 😢

  • @DHAIRYAMITTAL-zd4oi
    @DHAIRYAMITTAL-zd4oi 8 місяців тому

    Mine string action is 7 mm... So i able to 😢use only first 3 frets

  • @samiandkashif
    @samiandkashif Рік тому +2

    Ap to Karigar ho

  • @philtuliao4595
    @philtuliao4595 5 місяців тому

    you can’t just shave the string saddle to have a good string action. if you don’t adjust the truss rod. but too much tension on the rod can cause a buzzing sound if the saddle is too low

  • @lawrencedaveborlaza4493
    @lawrencedaveborlaza4493 Місяць тому +2

    what happens if i shaved the top?

  • @tanmoygvlogs1
    @tanmoygvlogs1 9 місяців тому

    What's the guiter name

  • @ahnafhabib5413
    @ahnafhabib5413 10 місяців тому

    Mine is like 1cm gap between fretboard and low e

  • @badhabit8824
    @badhabit8824 Рік тому +6

    These arguments are crazy. If you are a relief is correct then only a quarter turn and either directions should be made to the truss rod. If you cannot obtain the desired action from a quarter turn then you should then make adjustments to the nut and saddle like this guy did. Truss rods are specifically designed to adjust relief in the neck It should only be used to make small adjustments to the action.

    • @Barni2212
      @Barni2212 11 місяців тому +1

      When you have a cheap-ass guitar as mine, you don't have such a thing as truss rod XD

    • @Doesitmatter00710
      @Doesitmatter00710 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Barni2212😂😂😂

  • @kleio7323
    @kleio7323 11 місяців тому +1

    can i put back the same guitar strings i removed or i should put a new one?

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  11 місяців тому +2

      Yes you can.. as long as the strings are still okay

    • @kleio7323
      @kleio7323 11 місяців тому

      @@elvenderideas Thank you!!
      I just changed my strings and I also just realized that my guitar's action is high😅

  • @JAKENMK
    @JAKENMK 6 місяців тому

    I have an adjustable saddle and even set all the way down the action is about 8mm at the 12th fret. 😂

  • @cotton0108
    @cotton0108 4 місяці тому

    why i cant remove my saddle

  • @brucerain2106
    @brucerain2106 Рік тому +2

    I sanded it so much it doesn’t even touch the strings no more, and adjusted the truss rod, but the action is still high. Helpp

  • @Shane-en6xq
    @Shane-en6xq Рік тому

    what tool did u used to shave the saddle?

  • @MetalAtomico
    @MetalAtomico 4 місяці тому

    1.5/1.0mm

  • @muhammadfiqihnurhakim75
    @muhammadfiqihnurhakim75 10 місяців тому +1

    My guitar 1.75mm in string low E and 0.75 in string high E😅

    • @prakhya123
      @prakhya123 3 місяці тому

      is it better ? so should one shave the saddle to get this action as mine is 4 mm on low E......

  • @jeerymochahary9182
    @jeerymochahary9182 10 місяців тому

    I can't open saddle of my guitar

  • @kielmatthewreyes9892
    @kielmatthewreyes9892 5 місяців тому

    Pov: you own a classical

  • @nujhatshahrin8049
    @nujhatshahrin8049 9 місяців тому

    I broke one bridge pin while doing this.. now what to do:")

  • @z_9038
    @z_9038 3 місяці тому

    I cough for days after inhaling microplastics.

  • @keithkline6334
    @keithkline6334 6 місяців тому

    Does that screw up the intonation ?

    • @Talon18136
      @Talon18136 2 місяці тому

      Did it on mine and no the intonation it’s just fine I also made adjustments to my truss rod before even shaving the saddle down doesn’t take much

  • @krishlakhotiamaheshwari07
    @krishlakhotiamaheshwari07 Рік тому

    Me who having 1 cm thinking action is low 😂😂

  • @realdyl19
    @realdyl19 Місяць тому

    bros thumb is a pick

  • @bedabyasa_biswal_
    @bedabyasa_biswal_ 11 місяців тому +3

    Where should we rest the ruler to measure?
    Above the Fret sticks or from the wooden base of fret ?
    Please reply; I need to do something to it.

  • @Anooppie
    @Anooppie 4 місяці тому

    Mines 1cm🥰

    • @prakhya123
      @prakhya123 3 місяці тому +1

      does it feel better while playing? does it buzz? should i shave my saddle as my low E is 4 mm 🥲

  • @1911geek
    @1911geek Рік тому

    Botched😮 Trying to make it look easy. Follow at your own risk folks uneven saddle under side. Which leads to imbalance intonation and so on. Bad practice lay flat on glass and have a guide for straight flat contact sanding

  • @EasyGameroad
    @EasyGameroad 11 місяців тому

    Apa guna besi tanam di gitar🥵

  • @sound_of_guitar
    @sound_of_guitar 8 місяців тому

    Guitar action is fine from 4 to 5.5 mm, buzzing will be from 2 to 3.5 mm.

  • @dislikeme7639
    @dislikeme7639 Рік тому +10

    First of all: just practice and get used to it. Second of all: consult a luthier before doing this kind of stuff, you might lose a lot of money if you mess up.

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Рік тому +31

      Cutting or shaving the saddle is the most safest method instead of ruin the truss rod.. 😊

    • @yardbirdsweet
      @yardbirdsweet Рік тому +17

      A lot of money? The saddle in your guitar probably costs $5

    • @francescocalvanese6235
      @francescocalvanese6235 Рік тому +7

      Man it s rare to find a comment where every sentence is wrong. Congratulation!

    • @armadillolizard711
      @armadillolizard711 Рік тому

      It's like 10 bucks...

    • @Aih.8373an
      @Aih.8373an Рік тому +1

      If the guitar is not comfortable to play
      Then it's worth nothing
      ..I do agree on getting a professional opinion before doing this stuff

  • @fajarrestu7113
    @fajarrestu7113 Рік тому

    6mm here

  • @AdrianBoisclair
    @AdrianBoisclair 8 місяців тому

    Why shave saddle? If it’s a Taylor, a simple neck reset will do the job without any permanent changes.

  • @asidnasidn6588
    @asidnasidn6588 Рік тому

    That's why you have long nails on one hand

  • @Palale_trolls_2.0
    @Palale_trolls_2.0 Рік тому

    dont do that if you dont want your guitar get more vibration with playing

  • @zenn6843
    @zenn6843 9 місяців тому

    Why do i have metal inside my saddle

    • @afr3609
      @afr3609 8 місяців тому

      Its piezo for capturing ur guitar string wave to produce sound to the amp

  • @Snowy0123
    @Snowy0123 Рік тому +3

    Trussrod adjustment to adjust string height??? That's how you know this guy doesn't know what he's doing.. not what the trussrod is for..

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Рік тому +12

      Dude I will give you the detail of truss rod adjustments if you what. This technique is for guitar that doesn't have truss rod and it is safe. Remember wrongly adjusting the truss rod can be damaging your guitar.. 😊

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  Рік тому +2

      And please read the description and title before commenting. Thanks

    • @cariagakenchim8479
      @cariagakenchim8479 Рік тому +5

      Truss rod isn't for string's height, it is to straighten the neck if the tension of the strings curves the neck. It is to counter the tension not the height of the string

    • @siddhichetia
      @siddhichetia Рік тому +3

      ​@@cariagakenchim8479 exactly even if your neck is straight you would still have low action on the guitar sometimes you have to adjust the saddle and nut not only truss rod.

  • @pkplays5616
    @pkplays5616 11 місяців тому +1

    Nooooooo ....First try adjusting truss rod
    "Lefty Loosy Righty Tighty", If the problem persist...go to a luthier don't do anything by yourself..

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  11 місяців тому +2

      Please watch the video carefully.. btw if you don't have the knowledge of course just don't do it. Send it to me. Thanks