Also, the guy who plays him in the tv show “Versailles” (where almost everything in this video is also featured lmao) looks almost exactly like he does in the paintings
So what? Heterosexual and homosexual, straight-gay are the umbrella term for the exclusive opposite sex and same-sex relationship because bisexual is not an exclusive sexual orientation, so i think it's fine and you can understand that.
it IS celebrity gossip :)) royalties are famous so they can be considered celebrities. On a different note, that's how my history teacher captured my interest haha, he made everything sound like a gossip.
Story: Two men lived long lifes together and would often have each other's company. They would die for each other and were unseparateable during war. Historians: wow they were roommates
If Ivar literally self identified to his wife as bisexual, being in a relationship with a man/marrying a man does not make him homosexual. He's still bisexual
Ravenesque One that is very true but I do believe that some of those who are in arranged marriages do actually end up loving their spouses (or at least I hope so)!
Agreed! All too often we only see depictions of how marriages end horribly, but sometimes people just lose romantic interest in one another, but that doesn’t mean they can’t still care for one another.
Despite public preconceptions, the British aristocracy have er somewhat broad minds when it comes to sex and marriage. I would guess that this is the broadmindedness in action.
Cactus Flowers they disowned him because of his decision to come out of the closet They'd been okay with his being Gay, provided that no one outside of the family knew that about him
@Notre Aira There IS a generic Hollywood look which makes identifying celebs damn hard for people like me who don't give a hoot about that sort of thing. And in the old days, remember, most people had smallpox scars, or rotten teeth, etc, and the court painters had to flatter their subjects, or else.
@joseph adel I guess because back then it was only hush hush affairs for the extremely privileged to indulge in, while now we're trying to convince people they won't lose their livelihoods if they come out and it's actually normal, not some perverse game people play.
@@ladyofnoxus6733 disagree? Being gay is not a "lifestyle" it isn't an opinion it's just the way people are. And if you disagree yes you are a homophobe. It's like saying I disagree that you're a woman. tf
There's a chance she suffered from tokophobia which is a recognized fear of pregnancy. It probably wasn't just due to mortality rates, as that didn't stop most people.
"He was the first member of the British Royal family to be openly homosexual" He isn't though. He states his attraction "goes both ways". He is bisexual.
omfg dude “being openly homosexual” doesnt mean he’s gay it just means he is the first member of royal family who was open about his attraction to same sex, why tf does she need to emphasize that his attraction goes both ways? being openly heterosexual was common who tf cares about him being attractred to women when thats the norm
TheBrcylmz it kind of invalidates his identity, which he himself said, he isn’t heterosexual for dating women as much as he isn’t homosexual for dating a man - when you erase bi identities people have this idea you have to one or the other, or that you have changing identities, when it’s not true.
yo, idk why you're calling henrietta of england "jealous" and "vain"..... she was forced to marry a GAY MAN when she was 17. you'd be pretty discontent too.
Please there’s enough bi erasure as it is. If Ivar himself has stated that he is bisexual, that does not make him gay just because he’s marrying a man. He’s still bi unless he himself states something else
But if you are bi, then you are still gay. Having sex with the same gender is homosexual. Just like how they are also heterosexual. It’s both, not neither
@@mateosanfitz9625 She's just making an analogy between dinner and love interests. Saying that his admirers can have the peas (Philippe), because she doesn't like them.
You should't have to pretend to be someone you are not. This just makes you miserable, and makes the people around you miserable as well. So sad that his family disowned him. I hope they will have a change of heart.
I think the worst part about it is that they "accepted" him as long as no one knew. Turning your back on your child due to their sexuality is wrong for any reason, but to be ok with it in private, then disown him because they feel publicly embarrassed? That's a new low bar.
lanaya martin lmao...yea you are... it’s not something you can change and it’s definitely something you were born with. Children don’t experience sexual feelings until later in puberty and that’s when one finds out their sexual desires through exploration. Don’t speak about topics you’re not educated on head ass
Its funny how aristocratic class was rather open minded and everyone did everything with anyone. But in public they all acted conservative and moral. If only they shared that openess with their people, we would live in heaven
Cause they still wanted the masses to be controlled by the church. And being open minded was not a part of what the church was teaching. Being gay was a shame for the peasants and if they knew what was going on in the upper class they would have been outraged
If you look throughout history you will find that generally speaking, the wealthier people are the more prone they are to "alternative lifestyles" and the poorer they are the less prone they are to same. The poorest of the poor tend to be the least tolerant. Note that the wealthiest states in the U.S. tend to be more liberal and the poorest states tend to be more conservative .
Parents: You are not gay, you are just following the new trend Me: TELL THAT TO PHILIPPE AND HORTENSE Parents: Are those your friends? Me: *sighs* unfortunately no, i have to hang out with peasants.
$20 bucks says Philip's second wife was also not straight, giving how happy she seemed to be to keep things platonic as soon as they had a kid (which in court was pretty well a minimum requirement of them) and how willing she was to marry him despite (because of?) his reputation for not being into his wives.
@@Werevampiwolf The marriage would have been canceled if there wasn't a child. Often even there was no male child. There was something at stake and she wasn't in love with her cousin anyway. No reason to assume she was homosexual, too ;)
@Anya Catherine Braginski That seems a bit farfetched (although possible). There was nothing at stake for the way she was living- She could have continued to live at the german court. It might have however cast a bad light on the political circumstances...
0:31 Philippe I, Duke of Orléans: Gay 4:20 Hortense Mancini: Bisexual 8:13 Prince Henry of Prussia: Gay 10:28 Princess Isabella of Bourbon-Parma: Gay 12:39 Archduke Ludwig Viktor of Austria: Gay, Potentially Trans 13:57 Luisa Isabel Álvarez de Toledo: Gay 15:56 Lord Ivar Mountbatten: Bisexual 17:17 Manvendra Singh Gohil: Gay
Royal children were normally dressed up with female dresses and a certain age they can wear the male robes. Not because they are gay, they consider that gender-fluid for young children.
yes but phillippe was dressed as a girl much longer to make him "weak" so he wound't fight his brother for the throne. They even gave him a friend dressed as a girl too so he woudn't feel lonely... later, as an adult he did it by choice sometimes (for provocation first and then because he liked it).
As a bisexual, I don't agree. Most of these people probably married the opposite gender not because they were bisexual but because of duty and the way it was back then. So most of these people probably were gay. Although the second to last one is definitely bisexual.
Most of them were forced to marry the opposite gender and have children to perpetuate the royal lineage. They didn’t want to, that’s why they had gay side lovers.
I was cringing the whole time. LOL! She did a good job historically but I'd see a name come up and knew she'd butcher it. I was trying to decide if I should say anything or not because she did work hard on everything else. 😅
So let me get this straight (no pun intended), Mancini has an affair with Charles the 2nd, then proceeds to have an affair with Charles' own daughter (Ewwww), who later herself has an affair with Mancini's male lover? I can see now where XXX companies get their scripts from.
Suriaya Hassan Where you have the 👀 eyes cracks me up... my mother was the most professional alarmed eye roller I have ever known!! She exhibited this talent to me my entire life!! God bless her and keep her in love ♥️ you were perfect momma.
He opened his palace for all LGBTQ2 people of his kingdom. This man has by now saved thousands of civilians lives. Countless lifes saved: deserves Nobel Prize. Pulitzer Prize. Inspirational hero. UN ambassadorship worthy. Humanity award recipient deserving. Legendary unforgettable human beingship.
Gotta be careful with these blanket statements. "Born into wealth and privilege" does not mean you get to live your life as you please. Inevitably there are rules and customs and expectations to be followed... or else. And that "or else" would likely include the disappearance of your "wealth and privilege." The LAST thing I'd want to be born into would be royalty. Look at Edward VIII - his choice was to live in misery and loneliness as KING, or in married happiness and disgrace in banishment. Royals are CHAINED - they are not, in any way, FREE. Nope... I certainly don't advocate that it's best to be poor either... as with many things, it's MODERATION that enables a balance between privilege and freedom.
Ima tell my mom about the Indian one cause we all in an Indian family and she hates gay so much that she won’t let me and my sister talk about it next to my brother because “he’s to young” and I think she’s just scared about him being gay 🤌 My mom: “dont say that Arvin might hear” **me who told my brother about: bisexual, gay, lesbian, trans, and non binary people** “ok”
Emøøx Gægarbage I did a paper in college about gays in Greek mythology and was fascinated to learn about how it was not just based on sex. That it also was about a mentoring relationship between younger and older men. Much more intellectual than sexual””, but certainly not frowned upon
Kathy Kilpatrick wh? I didnt know that! Thanks for the info though;; i remember that part, but i heard that orgys were common and gender didnt matter to them and relationships! Thats cool to know though
@@TheKappybook of course relationships weren't just about sex, but the teacher-student thing... You described pederasty. The main reason homosexuality was so much frowned upon in history, because of association to old men having sex with adolescent boys as a "rite of passage". It's creepy and still continues today in the form of hazing in some armies and is the basis of prison rape culture. It's not an equal relationship, to say the least.
15:28 "...on Louis's deathbed she married her longtime love Liliana... Louisa died 11 hours after the wedding..." It's hard to imagine how much Louisa's children were mad at both of them, after they figured out that they lost a huge part of the estate worth an estimated 47 million euro.
It’s not like Liliana was some Johnny come lately gold digger- they’d been together for 30 years! The only reason they hadn’t married 30 years earlier is due to the law not allowing it yet. So think of Liliana as her wife of 30 years. Does that make the kids fighting the will a bit of a different story now?
I had tea with that last one, Prince Manvendra. He was visiting town(tulsa, OK) and I just happened to get into a talk about lgbt stuff with a shop owner at the local mall, and she invited me to join her and a small group of people to have a private get together with him, as she'd been in contact with him for years through their respective lgbt activism and he was literally stopping by that evening to visit HER, his friend. he was super chill. talked about his struggles since he came out, how he was disowned and all that and his activism and his plans for his home country. it was a really cool experience that I didn't appreciate properly at the time. it was only a few years ago, but I was dumb enough to only think "holy shit im having tea with a prince." I really wish I had paid more attention to him and what he had to say, rather than just being an extra presence eating the lovely food the shop owner had prepared. and no, I didn't record anything then either, we were asked not to because it was a very private meet.
I knooowww!! I’m like “Bruh, they’ve always been here! But due to beheading reasons, then a eugenics movement, then electric shock therapy, then gay conversation therapy, plus societal prejudice... they preferred to stay in the closet! 🙄”
Me: they were in hiding fearing for their lives, Karen. I will never understand how people don't get that LBGT+ people have always existed. Then again people think you're sensitive and a snowflake if you physically cannot digest milk, because "people back then weren't so sensitive". Yes they were Janet, but back then they just died and nobody knew why.
And if you do, the hypocrites will say, "what are all gay people crying about? gays have been ruling the world for centuries" - there is no winning with bigots.
Gongmin was said to be gay or bi. I kinda suspect that he might have been demisexual too. Korea, Goryeo: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gongmin_of_Goryeo He was deeply in love with his queen Queen Noguk, but it took a while. It's said after her death, he refused all women, and only had affairs with men. King Mokjong (980-1009), also Korea. King Hyegong, might also have been gay or trans. Unclear. Side note that Hwarang, part of the nobility of Shilla (the sons of) are often speculated to be gay. Also Wonhwa, daughters that proceeded the Hwarang, have a story of how they were dissolved because there were factions and two girls reportedly fell in love with each other, which caused a falling out. (It's in the samguk yusa) And then Bong Sunbin, in the Joseon era was also said to be a lesbian. She had an affair with her servant, So-ssang. That ended quite bloody. I want a Korean drama focusing on it, but I don't think it'll happen any time soon. Also, often the court maids were from the nobility, and there was a special term within the palace for women that "shared quarters" together which roughly translates to "sharing meals" (Joseon). So it was allowed, though hushed and only allowed with other court maids (probably who had similar ranks in society--so not Jung-in, or middle class with someone from upper.), not nobility. This is only Korea from the top of my head. China and Japan I'm not sure of. Though, there is a rumor that the ooku was started because the first shogun was feared to be gay by his mother, so she thought she could "cure" him by surrounding him with beautiful women. This is more rumor than fact, though. Edit: Looking it up... Togugawa Iemitsu (surname first) was said to have "homosexual preferences" and ended killing his lover in a bath after a falling out. Here is an article on Japanese samurai and practices and homosexuality. www.tofugu.com/japan/gay-samurai/ Emperor Ai of Han. Duke Xian of Jin. Duke Ling of Wei Emperor Cheng of Han was bi. "dui shi" is interesting to also look at. Emperor Fu Jian was said to be bi/pan Emperor Jian Wen of Liang was gay? Zhengde Emperor of Ming had an affair with a Muslim leader, but was most likely bi.
@@Crosshill Why would you be pressed about people not having a wedding cake? It's seriously the most petty thing to treat like an "unshakable" tradition -- and a lot of things are treated as such.
🌸Brilliant as always. But I can’t stop thinking of the cruelty of the Duchess Manicini’s husband. Knocking out the front teeth of all of the servants. For fear of them attracting others 😨.🌸
@@michaelmckinnon1591 Sometimes letters were destroyed by surviving families. And sometimes historians decided to be "discreet," uh, I mean lie. There was some 19th century author who kept a diary where he recorded his visits to brothels. But most biographies, even some recent ones, wrote about the guy as though the only thing he did was get married and write poems.
@@brachiator1 correspondence wasn't typically destroyed by surviving family members back then because once the person was dead, they figured it couldn't do any damage to the person's reputation
@@michaelmckinnon1591 Odd. I was just looking at an old NY Times article from 1971 claiming that Queen Victoria's son had many of her private letters burned. I have read variations of this in many biographies.
I know his dosen’t count but- John Lauren’s: Never showed interest in girls Had an arranged marriage and never loved his wife Called a alexander hamilton what his dad would call his wife Wrote sexual stuff with the Alex Had Alex say he loved him and said it back Henry Laurens: T h e y w e r e t h e b e s t o f f r i e n d s.
@Parvika Singh thabk you for bringing this up. Everyone goes off on how stuff wasn't taught in schools but do you know how much time we had to learn history in svhool?! Very little. If you didn't start a war or finish a war I have no idea who you are and often time those people were men and in Europe and American often white men. That is my psa. I'm not saying it shouldn't be but some stuff just isn't because we are trying to teach the kids how to add not about obscure European monarchs.
@@germantennesseean8438 I am American and didn't get taught about any of these because it is British history. The only monarchs we were taught about are the ones relevant to the American colonies colonies or the world wars.
I don't know if any of the Presidents were gay, but I'm almost certain Mike Pense is a closeted homosexual. The guy displays so much vitriol towards the LGBTQ community, he's got to be a secret fudge packer (probably a bottom from the looks of it).
There have been 45 Presidents so there almost certainly were! The best evidence is for Buchanan. Some suggestion for Lincoln as well. Also, surprisingly enough, rumors that JFK, although not gay (he most certainly did like women!), did experiment in his youth.
Yes, six countries have a had gay/bi leaders so far: Canaan Banana, former leader of Zimbabwe Xavier Bettel, current leader of Luxembourg Ana Brnabić, current leader of Serbia Elio Di Rupo, former leader of Belgium Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, former leader of Icelancd Leo Varadkar, current leader of Ireland
Thank you for a such informative video. Philip d'orleans was not 'alowed' to dress as a girl. He was raised as a girl, so he wont be to much of a "problem" as second son and brother to the king.
@@tonibauer2949 yes true, but in the case of philip it was done until he was older and delibretly. The dressing the same, white and in dresses was something conciderd for infants and todlers by the time they wgere 5 or 6 the would be dressed in cloths resembling thos of adults. Reserch paintings of the time :-)
I'm currently reading a book about the letters Elizabeth Charlotte, the second wife of Philippe of Orleans, wrote to her relatives in Germany. Her life at the court of Versailles was actually quite sad and miserable. Her husband and mostly his lovers treated her utterly bad, mocked her, scared her ladies-in-waiting away as soon as she befriended them and took every chance away from her to get friends. She was not "happy" to make room for Philippe's lovers, she just didn't have a choice. If she didn't agree with a decision her husband made, like making one of his lovers the educator/tutor of her son, the treatment got even worse. So no, I wouldn't call their marriage "agreeable".
The one where the duchess had fencing matches in night gown with her lover is straight out of romance story. I'd love a movie adaptation of their relationship
What about current King of Cambodia? He has never married, was a professional ballerino as a prince, and has been in a long term relationship with a man from his youth?
You mentioned Archduke Ludwig's brother, Emperor Max of Mexico. It's rumored that he was bisexual himself. While he and his wife were a very loving couple, there are some (admittedly dodgy) sources that claimed he had a few male lovers in Mexico who he'd go visit in secret whenever he had a chance to step out of the castle.
"Being gay was often made much easier by being born into wealth and privilege..." lol holy shit we haven't changed much.
Jacob Hall lmaooo
Right!😂
Being anything is often made much easier by being born into wealth, and privilege.
If you think it’s wrong., why are you here? 😂
@Hineni John3:16 Give evidence that god exists
The first guy was wild from start to finish.
Kalpita Mookherji I know right lmaoooo
Also, the guy who plays him in the tv show “Versailles” (where almost everything in this video is also featured lmao) looks almost exactly like he does in the paintings
@@fhpurcell7713 I KNOW RIIGHT
@@fhpurcell7713 Alexander vlahos plays him I think
Kalpita Mookherji yeah exactly, that guy. Idk how but they have the same face XD
A correction: if someone is bisexual, they are still bisexual even if they are in a heterosexual or homosexual relationship.
True. That desire never goes away.
Yes, that is very valid.
When they said "homosexual" in the video, know that this term includes "bisexual".
So what? Heterosexual and homosexual, straight-gay are the umbrella term for the exclusive opposite sex and same-sex relationship because bisexual is not an exclusive sexual orientation, so i think it's fine and you can understand that.
@@DCBfanboy it doesn't
This is like celebrity gossip but actually interesting
Yes!!
So true this is so interesting
it IS celebrity gossip :)) royalties are famous so they can be considered celebrities. On a different note, that's how my history teacher captured my interest haha, he made everything sound like a gossip.
Yes, only because the time has passed.
Same! I haven't seen this much tea being spilled since 18th century Boston
Story: Two men lived long lifes together and would often have each other's company. They would die for each other and were unseparateable during war.
Historians: wow they were roommates
LEEDLE LEDDEL LEE who are you Talking about?
Omg, they were roommates.
GOD THEY WERE ROOMMATES.
yuna00 I assumed Achilles and Patroclus
Oh my God they were roommates
"She favored his sister."
Oop-
That is the biggest slap in the face😂💀
Dickinson
I feel ntr and I don't like it
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Armand de Gramont is really out here sleeping with both the queen and the king....okay
Goals
@@alexbenavidez4500 Hahaha! Love it!!
Not the king!
Yass we love a slutty royal
Being bi sexual certainty improved his chances, he took advantage of this to the fullest!!
If Ivar literally self identified to his wife as bisexual, being in a relationship with a man/marrying a man does not make him homosexual. He's still bisexual
No such thing as a bisexual male, it's always just a layover on the way to gay town
@@jemimahkendall6579 Wow so original. I've never heard that before
NoNotiCarly Wait, what he said wasn’t a joke??
@@Phenrex Either way, not very original, I HAVE heard something similar before lol
NoNotiCarly Bisexual eraser is a huge problem though, I wish people wouldn’t use Bisexual and Gay interchangeably...
Me: I hate celebrity gossip, it’s toxic!
Also me, hearing that the duchess had a fencing match with her lover in only a nightgown: OOOH SIS
Hot hot 🍵🍵
*gasps in 17/18th century* the tea has been spilled ☕️
that’s me -sips tea- :}
oooooh *waves fan*
These comments are so funny 😂 I’m living for them!
“he was escorted down the isle and given away by his ex-wife”
*woah, okay then*
that's awesome though
I think it's really sweet.
I think that was one of the sweetest things I’ve ever heard.
😂🤣😁
he was probably her gay best friend haha
I just adore that he was walked down the aisle by his ex-wife. That speaks volumes about the kind of person she is ❣️
Emma Campbell - Could have been that money talks.
Ravenesque One that is very true but I do believe that some of those who are in arranged marriages do actually end up loving their spouses (or at least I hope so)!
Emma Campbell that made my heart smile
Agreed! All too often we only see depictions of how marriages end horribly, but sometimes people just lose romantic interest in one another, but that doesn’t mean they can’t still care for one another.
Despite public preconceptions, the British aristocracy have er somewhat broad minds when it comes to sex and marriage. I would guess that this is the broadmindedness in action.
"The two lovers had a fencing match in only their night gowns"
My lesbian ass, sweating profusely: I would like to see it
*same*
i- can i come?
Same..
Same
Definitely same
“His psychiatrist told his parents he was gay, that accepted it,”
*His family disowned him*
Oh sorry, too real?
They accepted it as long as no one else knew dear. Then when is reveled himself to the world they were like “Oh no, we are shocked 😮” Get it?
they may have disowned him because of social stigma or something like that, like they would become targets if they did not disown him
SuperMommav *surprised pikachu face*
Cactus Flowers they disowned him because of his decision to come out of the closet
They'd been okay with his being Gay, provided that no one outside of the family knew that about him
Why does everyone back then have the exact same face??!
all the paintings were not what they looked like, they're all edited to the previous European beauty standard.
You could say exactly the same thing about Hollywood celebs and wannabees, especially if they've had plastic surgery, which means 99% of them.
@Notre Aira There IS a generic Hollywood look which makes identifying celebs damn hard for people like me who don't give a hoot about that sort of thing. And in the old days, remember, most people had smallpox scars, or rotten teeth, etc, and the court painters had to flatter their subjects, or else.
Maybe inbreeding
@@Jacob-on9sz Yes, old style Photoshop.
Is this where “yassss queen” came from?
Lmfao
wait I think you're onto something
I knew it
You better stop 😂
YASSSSS QUEEEN
And old people talk as if promiscuity, homosexuality, infidelity etc are all new things and it's our generation that is ruining the world 🙄
@joseph adel I guess because back then it was only hush hush affairs for the extremely privileged to indulge in, while now we're trying to convince people they won't lose their livelihoods if they come out and it's actually normal, not some perverse game people play.
@@jif635 however anyone who disagrees can lose their jobs and be branded a homophobe.
@@ladyofnoxus6733 disagree? Being gay is not a "lifestyle" it isn't an opinion it's just the way people are. And if you disagree yes you are a homophobe. It's like saying I disagree that you're a woman.
tf
Mary Rose yep
@@ladyofnoxus6733 in some cultures possibly (looking at Sweden i think it is?) but not definite
"He attended private boarding school in England."
Yeah that'll do it...
equivalent of " my daughter is gay ???? let's put her in an all girl catholic school " ( you have 69 likes by law i can't like your comment)
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@Ari Onassis-Sugen Yet.
Why i immediately thought of Hogwarts 😅
BAW-HAWHAWHAWHAW. X'D
I feel bad for the girl who was forced to give birth. Just imagine how scared she was :(
Yes same :(
Same 😿
There's a chance she suffered from tokophobia which is a recognized fear of pregnancy. It probably wasn't just due to mortality rates, as that didn't stop most people.
@@PandoraStolen death rates were still as high as 1 in 3 back then so maybe she really was just logical
I wanna have kids in the future but I’m scared that I would die if I gave birth
"He was the first member of the British Royal family to be openly homosexual"
He isn't though. He states his attraction "goes both ways". He is bisexual.
And?? he is still LGBT
@@iamcyber it's a huge issue that the B in LGBT+ has been battling for years now
omfg dude “being openly homosexual” doesnt mean he’s gay it just means he is the first member of royal family who was open about his attraction to same sex, why tf does she need to emphasize that his attraction goes both ways? being openly heterosexual was common who tf cares about him being attractred to women when thats the norm
TheBrcylmz it kind of invalidates his identity, which he himself said, he isn’t heterosexual for dating women as much as he isn’t homosexual for dating a man - when you erase bi identities people have this idea you have to one or the other, or that you have changing identities, when it’s not true.
Highly doubt they'd care about terms
INHERITED HIS FATHER'S SEXUAL PREFERENCES IM SORRY WHAT
I think they used that without implying that he literally inherited it, but yeah it sounded a bit off.
AHHHH YOUR PFP IS TAEHYUNG AHHHH
@@mimmikibilly i mean I KNOW but it sounded SO BAD LMAO
@@ky5579 were at tht point where there are armys everywhere i thought we had gotten over this already
@@trixechita Yup. I'm more used to that sort of expressions though, so I might be less sensitive to it.I don't know about you.
"The gay prince became The Grandfather of Europe" the gays won y'all.
Greg Arias period
@@jokulardwemmer8673 LMFAOOOOO
@@jokulardwemmer8673 "country"
periyadt 😌💅✨
Justin Faller i-
I think the Indian prince that opened his home to other lgbtq ppl is my favourite in this video.
Considering still how homophobic India is, that was very brave move. Literally revolutionary.
I wish him to live a happy & long life full of love, he's so wholesome and wonderful♡ =')
he has a glory hole in every room
@@elwolf8536 OMG, I guess you must know that from first hand experience!!!!
Neh. The princess who had a fencing match with her lover is super cool.
yo, idk why you're calling henrietta of england "jealous" and "vain"..... she was forced to marry a GAY MAN when she was 17. you'd be pretty discontent too.
Princesses of those times were not allowed to choose their own husbands.
@@helene4397 you but she made it sound like henratia was evil im sorry but if i was married to a gay one who fucked everyone i would properly go mad
helene4397 yeah that’s why the comment says ‘force to marry’
@@helene4397 however, they were allowed a chance to have a happy, or at least decent marriage, even if arranged. This one didn't get that chance.
They are using the language of the oppressors.
Philippe a nd Elzabeth's relationship in a nutshell
"This is my boyfriend. And this is my boyfriend's boyfriend"
Excellent comment
poly lol
Please there’s enough bi erasure as it is. If Ivar himself has stated that he is bisexual, that does not make him gay just because he’s marrying a man. He’s still bi unless he himself states something else
Exactly! Who you marry doesn't change who you are!
But if you are bi, then you are still gay. Having sex with the same gender is homosexual. Just like how they are also heterosexual. It’s both, not neither
yeah, the title should be LGBT royals, i'm tired of lesbians, bi's and pan's been called "gay"
@@mypantsarefilledwithbeans6508 it's almost like there is a word for someone who is sexually attracted to both men and women
@@mypantsarefilledwithbeans6508 im gonna assume you're either young or thick in the head lmfao
“You are free to gobble the piece, I don’t like them” I’m wheezing
It's "the peas" glad I made you laugh!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What is the meaning of that?
@@mateosanfitz9625 She's just making an analogy between dinner and love interests. Saying that his admirers can have the peas (Philippe), because she doesn't like them.
@@mateosanfitz9625 Or, you know, his "jewels".
bruh im tryna have a scandalous sword fight with my gf tf
in the uNdErGaRmEnT!!! still wearing more than I on a sunny winter day xD (that was exaggerated I'm easy freezing)
D- do you want to... maybe sword fight in our nightgowns at midnight 🥺👉👈
Sounds hot ngl
@@sugasarmyyy7437 frrrr 😹😻
that's amazing. WE THRIVING!
Manvendra Singh Gohil opening his estate to vulnerable LGBT+ teens. Absolute legend and icon.
He's the real Prince Charming
You should't have to pretend to be someone you are not. This just makes you miserable, and makes the people around you miserable as well. So sad that his family disowned him. I hope they will have a change of heart.
I think the worst part about it is that they "accepted" him as long as no one knew. Turning your back on your child due to their sexuality is wrong for any reason, but to be ok with it in private, then disown him because they feel publicly embarrassed? That's a new low bar.
I love that the king was happy his brother was gay because politics
Homophobes be like : there are no gays in the ancient times
Or in nature. 🙄 I’m like “do you not have google?!”
Ancient Greece rn: 👁👄👁
@Qin Fujiwara no one is born gay that's just how yall try to justify it
lanaya martin lmao...yea you are... it’s not something you can change and it’s definitely something you were born with. Children don’t experience sexual feelings until later in puberty and that’s when one finds out their sexual desires through exploration. Don’t speak about topics you’re not educated on head ass
@Qin Fujiwara So children aren't born straight ethire?
Its funny how aristocratic class was rather open minded and everyone did everything with anyone. But in public they all acted conservative and moral. If only they shared that openess with their people, we would live in heaven
The nobility was extremely hypocritical, so it's no surprise
Cause they still wanted the masses to be controlled by the church. And being open minded was not a part of what the church was teaching. Being gay was a shame for the peasants and if they knew what was going on in the upper class they would have been outraged
@@reetta8398 So, being open minded is to turn away from God, huh?
@@George040270 In those times it was
If you look throughout history you will find that generally speaking, the wealthier people are the more prone they are to "alternative lifestyles" and the poorer they are the less prone they are to same. The poorest of the poor tend to be the least tolerant. Note that the wealthiest states in the U.S. tend to be more liberal and the poorest states tend to be more conservative .
“The Italian vice” 😂 I’m dead af. Back in the day was hilarious
I know right 😂😂😂
The irony? In Italy it was called the "english vice"
They talked so much shit back in the day, but in the most roundabout way. We need to bring that back.
How gay can Italy be?
"Covered himself In glory several times"
Oh I bet he did.
lol
Liam Mills lol
Bradley Caine
H u h
@Bradley Caine You didn't even try to censor that😂
Indeed 😂😂😂😂😂
A history lover and also a gay: this is my tea, my niche, my home...
This perfectly describes me lol I love history and I'm bisexual
Same I’m a lesbian
Where are my bees at???
@@gabriellebraswell6169 ayyyeeeeee same!
I relate
what if we had a fencing match in public wearing our nightgowns (and we were both girls) 😳😳
tusk act 1 I’m down
Just kidding! Unless...?
it’s at 69 likes, i can’t change it from that greatness
Hmu girl ⚔💖💖
@@m.ivyluna4632 And I would accept.
Parents: You are not gay, you are just following the new trend
Me: TELL THAT TO PHILIPPE AND HORTENSE
Parents: Are those your friends?
Me: *sighs* unfortunately no, i have to hang out with peasants.
Mood😒
Lmaooo
If the time machine gets invented, we going back in time to have some good friends.
Lol
Neither one actually was both were bisexual
$20 bucks says Philip's second wife was also not straight, giving how happy she seemed to be to keep things platonic as soon as they had a kid (which in court was pretty well a minimum requirement of them) and how willing she was to marry him despite (because of?) his reputation for not being into his wives.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too
@@Werevampiwolf The marriage would have been canceled if there wasn't a child. Often even there was no male child. There was something at stake and she wasn't in love with her cousin anyway. No reason to assume she was homosexual, too ;)
Some people don't like sex, particularly some women. It doesn't mean they're lesbian. Sheesh.
@@Violetbunnyfish when did I say lesbian? I said "also not straight", that could mean a lot of things, including not being sexual.
@Anya Catherine Braginski That seems a bit farfetched (although possible). There was nothing at stake for the way she was living- She could have continued to live at the german court. It might have however cast a bad light on the political circumstances...
As a gay guy myself and a huge fan of history, I find these videos very interesting! keep up the good work :)
Nathan Vierke She does a good job. The naysayers are just trolls.🙄
Yea me too
Damn the royal who had his servant's teeth knocked out was cruel.
Oh the joys of the French court. It never disappoints.
Exactly, anne boleyn amhad a child ( elizabeth the 1st ) who was in my own opinion probabky one of englands greatest monarchs
0:31 Philippe I, Duke of Orléans: Gay
4:20 Hortense Mancini: Bisexual
8:13 Prince Henry of Prussia: Gay
10:28 Princess Isabella of Bourbon-Parma: Gay
12:39 Archduke Ludwig Viktor of Austria: Gay, Potentially Trans
13:57 Luisa Isabel Álvarez de Toledo: Gay
15:56 Lord Ivar Mountbatten: Bisexual
17:17 Manvendra Singh Gohil: Gay
Thanks
Thank you
4 of the 5 weren't LGBTQ, straight but weren't allowed to marry the women they actually were attracted to
@@michaelmckinnon1591 ... And that makes sense to you how exactly?
@@michaelmckinnon1591 and?? they simply wouldn't marry then.
I have an 3 essays due in 8 hours and I haven’t slept in days and I can’t choose between school and sleep so this is what I’m doing
Are you ok now 🥺
Lol! Are you me?!?
Xiomara Maybe 😳
Hope your doing better!
How did it go? 😂
Royal children were normally dressed up with female dresses and a certain age they can wear the male robes. Not because they are gay, they consider that gender-fluid for young children.
yes but phillippe was dressed as a girl much longer to make him "weak" so he wound't fight his brother for the throne. They even gave him a friend dressed as a girl too so he woudn't feel lonely... later, as an adult he did it by choice sometimes (for provocation first and then because he liked it).
They were dressed in dresses because those are harder to outgrow in terms of height than pants
Not just royals. Many boys in previous centuries wore dresses till they were four or five.
Exactly. Children were not thought to have a gender until some age.
Wait actually that’s...ok then
Where's Freddie Mercury?
I was asking myself that as well
Maybe they'll make a 3rd part?
5:00
this is about royals not celebrities
@@veryfinalgirl it was a queen joke. Lighten up
@@veryfinalgirl but freddie is a queen
A sea of bisexuals
This video: Look at all these gays
As a bisexual, I don't agree. Most of these people probably married the opposite gender not because they were bisexual but because of duty and the way it was back then. So most of these people probably were gay. Although the second to last one is definitely bisexual.
I agree, it was only an innocent joke
Most of them were forced to marry the opposite gender and have children to perpetuate the royal lineage. They didn’t want to, that’s why they had gay side lovers.
Some of them are possibly straight transgender.
😊
I'm an Indian. Thanks for including Manvendra Singh🇮🇳🏳️🌈
Wasn't he on keeping up with the Kardashians?
@@shamrockkisses83 so dumb
All the thumbs up
Her pronunciation of anything non English is absolutely atrocious but very entertaining 🥰
l'm brazilian and when she said the name of the Imperor and his daughter I gasped lololol
(but i can't judge, it's ok)
I was cringing the whole time. LOL! She did a good job historically but I'd see a name come up and knew she'd butcher it. I was trying to decide if I should say anything or not because she did work hard on everything else. 😅
Her pronunciation of English places, titles and names is pretty hilarious too 😂
whenever she said mancini i died a lil
Oh stop it. How's your pronunciation?
Not really related to the video but if I paid a hell of a lot of money for a painting and the painter included my double chins I'd be PISSED 😭
AAAH I THOUGHT THIS TOO
In this era, it was considered beautiful to be fat lol
Meant you had enough money to be able to eat
Yeah and they props had 4 chins they made then have only one lol
LMFAO 😭 SAME
They used to think that double chins made you powerful 😭
So let me get this straight (no pun intended), Mancini has an affair with Charles the 2nd, then proceeds to have an affair with Charles' own daughter (Ewwww), who later herself has an affair with Mancini's male lover? I can see now where XXX companies get their scripts from.
That's nothing. Pope Alexander VI is on record for simultaneously shagging 3 generations of women from the same family: grandma, mama and daughter.
@@ThePlataf eww but also not shocked at all.
This kind of stuff was even more common a few hundred years ago than it is today.
@@DieAlteistwiederda back then, it was still common for royals to marry in the family. Incest wasnt outlawed until 1908ish
Anxiously awaiting this period porn with authentic costumes!!!
I think the narrator said that Charles' illegitimate daughter had an affair with her own mother's lover, not Mancini's lover
Me in the living room with my mom
Me: *doesn't realize my volume was all the way up*
Video: _GAY R-_
Mom: 👀
Fr
Haha saaame and its like 1am, so quiet 😆
😂🤣💀
Even when it’s not hooked to the speaker, the words “GAY ROYALS OF THE WORLD” give off THX vibes
Suriaya Hassan Where you have the 👀 eyes cracks me up... my mother was the most professional alarmed eye roller I have ever known!! She exhibited this talent to me my entire life!! God bless her and keep her in love ♥️ you were perfect momma.
He opened his palace for all LGBTQ2 people of his kingdom.
This man has by now saved thousands of civilians lives. Countless lifes saved: deserves Nobel Prize. Pulitzer Prize. Inspirational hero. UN ambassadorship worthy. Humanity award recipient deserving. Legendary unforgettable human beingship.
That's a lot of responsibilities.
Trying to listen to the story and reading the comments at the same time is really stressful 😂😂
crazycute gurlon I read the comments first 😁
Sameee
I’m having just that problem at the moment!
#FACTS
oh, hi mate... lolo
No one:
Literally no one:
UA-cam: *So here's some gay royals of the world*
Your account name is hilarious 😂
But i don't regret it tho- 😳
Its cus u watched all them jikook videos
"you are welcome to gobble the peas; i don't like them" bruh she out here being an ally
Her use of double entendres are pretty hilarious too.
Everything is pretty much made easier by being born into wealth and privilege.
sidney greenglass I was to comment that
@@ross6753 If he was a normal boy he would be starving and probably working since his childhood haha
Gotta be careful with these blanket statements. "Born into wealth and privilege" does not mean you get to live your life as you please. Inevitably there are rules and customs and expectations to be followed... or else. And that "or else" would likely include the disappearance of your "wealth and privilege." The LAST thing I'd want to be born into would be royalty. Look at Edward VIII - his choice was to live in misery and loneliness as KING, or in married happiness and disgrace in banishment. Royals are CHAINED - they are not, in any way, FREE.
Nope... I certainly don't advocate that it's best to be poor either... as with many things, it's MODERATION that enables a balance between privilege and freedom.
*Nobody ever in the history of man:*
*Armand de Gramont:* kk ;) u up tho? hast thou goth kik?
we have no choice but to stan you 💅
69 likes
HAST THOU GOTH KIK--
lmaooo
HAHAHAHA IKR I WAS WAITING FOR A COMMENT ON ARMAND LMFAOOO, dude was legit like: manth, womanth don't careth, my cHamBers ArE foReVeR OpENth,
Ima tell my mom about the Indian one cause we all in an Indian family and she hates gay so much that she won’t let me and my sister talk about it next to my brother because “he’s to young” and I think she’s just scared about him being gay 🤌
My mom: “dont say that Arvin might hear”
**me who told my brother about: bisexual, gay, lesbian, trans, and non binary people** “ok”
Ikr,I'm indan too and it pisses me a lot. Ancient India was so gay but I don't get why modern parents think that's a "sin".
*greece has joined the chat*
Greece doesn’t really get mentioned
*greece has left the chat*
Αμαν😂😂
Emøøx Gægarbage I did a paper in college about gays in Greek mythology and was fascinated to learn about how it was not just based on sex. That it also was about a mentoring relationship between younger and older men. Much more intellectual than sexual””, but certainly not frowned upon
Kathy Kilpatrick wh? I didnt know that! Thanks for the info though;; i remember that part, but i heard that orgys were common and gender didnt matter to them and relationships! Thats cool to know though
@@TheKappybook of course relationships weren't just about sex, but the teacher-student thing... You described pederasty. The main reason homosexuality was so much frowned upon in history, because of association to old men having sex with adolescent boys as a "rite of passage". It's creepy and still continues today in the form of hazing in some armies and is the basis of prison rape culture. It's not an equal relationship, to say the least.
Back in those days, to have such relationships was rather accepted, but it was obvious paedophilia.
15:28 "...on Louis's deathbed she married her longtime love Liliana... Louisa died 11 hours after the wedding..."
It's hard to imagine how much Louisa's children were mad at both of them, after they figured out that they lost a huge part of the estate worth an estimated 47 million euro.
Too bad it's a done deal. The fact that they're fighting it is kind of sad, expected, but sad. Respect her wishes.
It’s not like Liliana was some Johnny come lately gold digger- they’d been together for 30 years! The only reason they hadn’t married 30 years earlier is due to the law not allowing it yet.
So think of Liliana as her wife of 30 years. Does that make the kids fighting the will a bit of a different story now?
Dude, that last guy was awesome and I’m super glad he’s out and happy now. What an icon
I had tea with that last one, Prince Manvendra. He was visiting town(tulsa, OK) and I just happened to get into a talk about lgbt stuff with a shop owner at the local mall, and she invited me to join her and a small group of people to have a private get together with him, as she'd been in contact with him for years through their respective lgbt activism and he was literally stopping by that evening to visit HER, his friend. he was super chill. talked about his struggles since he came out, how he was disowned and all that and his activism and his plans for his home country. it was a really cool experience that I didn't appreciate properly at the time. it was only a few years ago, but I was dumb enough to only think "holy shit im having tea with a prince." I really wish I had paid more attention to him and what he had to say, rather than just being an extra presence eating the lovely food the shop owner had prepared. and no, I didn't record anything then either, we were asked not to because it was a very private meet.
Holyshiii YOU ARE SO LUCKY
manvendra is so cool its amazing how he opened his palace to vunerable gay people
How many gay royals could we have?
French Royal Court : oui.
Napoleon: *Laughs in 2 wife's*
pls I wheezed
*we*
when some says: “oh and where were all the gays before now? i’ve never seen this much gays” show em this video
I knooowww!! I’m like “Bruh, they’ve always been here! But due to beheading reasons, then a eugenics movement, then electric shock therapy, then gay conversation therapy, plus societal prejudice... they preferred to stay in the closet! 🙄”
Me: they were in hiding fearing for their lives, Karen.
I will never understand how people don't get that LBGT+ people have always existed.
Then again people think you're sensitive and a snowflake if you physically cannot digest milk, because "people back then weren't so sensitive". Yes they were Janet, but back then they just died and nobody knew why.
@@xiomara5147 plus all the forced heterosexual marriages, which has been causing problems even today in many backward countries.
And if you do, the hypocrites will say, "what are all gay people crying about? gays have been ruling the world for centuries" - there is no winning with bigots.
Thats not alot and some were bi sexual .
Thank you for doing this! I'd love to learn more about East Asian gay royals from china, Japan or Korea
Gongmin was said to be gay or bi. I kinda suspect that he might have been demisexual too. Korea, Goryeo: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gongmin_of_Goryeo
He was deeply in love with his queen Queen Noguk, but it took a while. It's said after her death, he refused all women, and only had affairs with men.
King Mokjong (980-1009), also Korea.
King Hyegong, might also have been gay or trans. Unclear.
Side note that Hwarang, part of the nobility of Shilla (the sons of) are often speculated to be gay.
Also Wonhwa, daughters that proceeded the Hwarang, have a story of how they were dissolved because there were factions and two girls reportedly fell in love with each other, which caused a falling out. (It's in the samguk yusa)
And then Bong Sunbin, in the Joseon era was also said to be a lesbian. She had an affair with her servant, So-ssang. That ended quite bloody. I want a Korean drama focusing on it, but I don't think it'll happen any time soon.
Also, often the court maids were from the nobility, and there was a special term within the palace for women that "shared quarters" together which roughly translates to "sharing meals" (Joseon). So it was allowed, though hushed and only allowed with other court maids (probably who had similar ranks in society--so not Jung-in, or middle class with someone from upper.), not nobility.
This is only Korea from the top of my head. China and Japan I'm not sure of. Though, there is a rumor that the ooku was started because the first shogun was feared to be gay by his mother, so she thought she could "cure" him by surrounding him with beautiful women. This is more rumor than fact, though.
Edit: Looking it up...
Togugawa Iemitsu (surname first) was said to have "homosexual preferences" and ended killing his lover in a bath after a falling out.
Here is an article on Japanese samurai and practices and homosexuality. www.tofugu.com/japan/gay-samurai/
Emperor Ai of Han.
Duke Xian of Jin.
Duke Ling of Wei
Emperor Cheng of Han was bi.
"dui shi" is interesting to also look at.
Emperor Fu Jian was said to be bi/pan
Emperor Jian Wen of Liang was gay?
Zhengde Emperor of Ming had an affair with a Muslim leader, but was most likely bi.
Yoonmi Kim everyone is demisexual...
@@maeam Not true. Prove your statement rather than trolling and then we'll talk.
@@yoonmikim5663 how would you even know that a historical figure was demisexual.. like what are you basing this statement on
@@fubbington705 Prove you know what demisexual is and back that thesis. Then we'll talk. Or you can stop trolling and read the rest of the list.
“to travel to England to attempt to seduce Charles II.”
EXCUSE ME WHAT
Why haven’t anyone made a Netflix series about this!
Yaaa
You can see Philippe duke of Orleans’s relationships on show Versailles on Netflix
Ugh I love Versailles on Netflix
That would be so cool honestly
A tiered collection of cheeses instead of a wedding cake!? Sounds like my kind of shindig!! Fabulous!
call me a conservative bigot but you dont just mess with tradition when it comes to cake
@@Crosshill Why would you be pressed about people not having a wedding cake? It's seriously the most petty thing to treat like an "unshakable" tradition -- and a lot of things are treated as such.
@@fruitygarlic3601 i wrote that comment just for kicks
For real!
Honestly, it's the most British thing I've ever heard in my life 😂
Me while listening to the first guy: *We love a queen*
🌸Brilliant as always. But I can’t stop thinking of the cruelty of the Duchess Manicini’s husband. Knocking out the front teeth of all of the servants. For fear of them attracting others 😨.🌸
I would've done the same thing if I were a King lol
MISOGYNY at its finest!
Not true. Just a legend.
Probably trying to make them unattractive to his wife!
Fascinating the thing Isabella was afraid of her whole life was what killed her. Almost like she always knew.
the indian guy did good and helped others and im glad he is helping those who need protection.
I'm honestly addicted to this channel because I love history and spooky stuff. :)
Thanks for the bisexual erasure. Some of these people CLEARLY went BOTH WAYS, but thanks. 👌🏾😑
and for calling lesbians "gays", like, the word exists so use it
also her videos should be titled LGBT+ royals
@@ellen314 Thanks for throwing some sense into this video
@@ellen314 well some lesbains don't mind to be called gay or use the term gay instead of lesbain.
@@JupiterJinx some don't, but some do. it's easier and safer to just use lesbian, the L in lgbtq+ is there for a reason
@@jasmim9194 I know some don't but the more masculine-ish side of the lesbain community, likes to be called gay sometimes.
If it’s gay royals, could we just call them queens?
Fr tho
no.
Oh... all the jokes.
Never.....
"a collection of cheeses, rather than a wedding cake." That strikes me as both very royal and pretty damn gay! and good for them!
You are all accepted in the LGBT+ clubs your highnesses
Historians be like: well we cant be suuure, they were probably just very close friends
My passion is hating on historians while studying history 😎👌🏽
True, lack of intimate correspondence will do that though.
@@michaelmckinnon1591 Sometimes letters were destroyed by surviving families. And sometimes historians decided to be "discreet," uh, I mean lie. There was some 19th century author who kept a diary where he recorded his visits to brothels. But most biographies, even some recent ones, wrote about the guy as though the only thing he did was get married and write poems.
@@brachiator1 correspondence wasn't typically destroyed by surviving family members back then because once the person was dead, they figured it couldn't do any damage to the person's reputation
@@michaelmckinnon1591 Odd. I was just looking at an old NY Times article from 1971 claiming that Queen Victoria's son had many of her private letters burned. I have read variations of this in many biographies.
How can this shortlist of LGBTQ royals be complete without Queen Christina of Sweden?
N Queen Anne too
They mention her in another video. Same with Anne
@@leonredcliffe8492 No she was not .
@@leonredcliffe8492 Which one?
His psychiatrist informed his parents? Wtf happened to sessions being confidential?
Maybe he was asked first or there were different ways of dealing with confidentiality in that place at that time.
I know his dosen’t count but-
John Lauren’s:
Never showed interest in girls
Had an arranged marriage and never loved his wife
Called a alexander hamilton what his dad would call his wife
Wrote sexual stuff with the Alex
Had Alex say he loved him and said it back
Henry Laurens: T h e y w e r e t h e b e s t o f f r i e n d s.
I’m John Lauren’s in the place to be. Two pints of Sam Adams but I’m working on three
Ah yes. Totally friends
😂😂
Hmm yes, friends
He was in a relationship with a man named Francis Kinloch, then they broke up because of their political views or something like that.
Late 17th century court live sounds like a soap opera.
Omg a gay royal wedding... now I’d wake up at 4 am to watch that!!
7:07 the raw gay energy of this picture
It’s HOT
Bloody hell I wasn't expecting this level of detail. Nice.
I love that we never get taught any of this.
Cause OnLy HeTeRo’S eXiSt In HiStOrY.
GrenBoy J probably because the majority were straight
@@idontgiveafaboutyou We should be inclusive, that's what they r trying to say
@Parvika Singh thabk you for bringing this up. Everyone goes off on how stuff wasn't taught in schools but do you know how much time we had to learn history in svhool?! Very little. If you didn't start a war or finish a war I have no idea who you are and often time those people were men and in Europe and American often white men. That is my psa.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be but some stuff just isn't because we are trying to teach the kids how to add not about obscure European monarchs.
Are you American ? I got taught about these. Smh that is what is wrong with the American education system
@@germantennesseean8438 I am American and didn't get taught about any of these because it is British history. The only monarchs we were taught about are the ones relevant to the American colonies colonies or the world wars.
Kudos to Prince Manvendra! To be a public figure and to know all that he would lose, opening his home to others is commendable.
This channel is so underrated 💕
"You can have the peas, I don't like them"
what a legend
"Inherited his father's sexual preferences"
Hold up-
Hmmm wandering if there was ever any gay presidents
I don't know if any of the Presidents were gay, but I'm almost certain Mike Pense is a closeted homosexual. The guy displays so much vitriol towards the LGBTQ community, he's got to be a secret fudge packer (probably a bottom from the looks of it).
There have been 45 Presidents so there almost certainly were!
The best evidence is for Buchanan.
Some suggestion for Lincoln as well.
Also, surprisingly enough, rumors that JFK, although not gay (he most certainly did like women!), did experiment in his youth.
Yes, six countries have a had gay/bi leaders so far:
Canaan Banana, former leader of Zimbabwe
Xavier Bettel, current leader of Luxembourg
Ana Brnabić, current leader of Serbia
Elio Di Rupo, former leader of Belgium
Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, former leader of Icelancd
Leo Varadkar, current leader of Ireland
Plus Eleanor Roosevelt was bi!
And also, I'm told that it's an open secret that Barbados has a lesbian prime minister
Thank you for a such informative video.
Philip d'orleans was not 'alowed' to dress as a girl. He was raised as a girl, so he wont be to much of a "problem" as second son and brother to the king.
Perhaps. But infant and young boys were commonly dressed the same as girls into the Victorian age.
@@tonibauer2949 yes true, but in the case of philip it was done until he was older and delibretly. The dressing the same, white and in dresses was something conciderd for infants and todlers by the time they wgere 5 or 6 the would be dressed in cloths resembling thos of adults. Reserch paintings of the time :-)
Right, he was more likely made to dress that way and became more comfortable with it than the way society expected him to dress.
And the historians are still telling us that all the lover were just their best friend.
“You are welcome to gobble the peas I don’t like them.”
Can I just say that Isabella's self portrait is way better than any other portrait of her. Look at it it's so good!
"You are welcome to gobble the peas, I don't like them." I'm sorry what, she lowkey destroyed him 😂
I'm currently reading a book about the letters Elizabeth Charlotte, the second wife of Philippe of Orleans, wrote to her relatives in Germany. Her life at the court of Versailles was actually quite sad and miserable. Her husband and mostly his lovers treated her utterly bad, mocked her, scared her ladies-in-waiting away as soon as she befriended them and took every chance away from her to get friends. She was not "happy" to make room for Philippe's lovers, she just didn't have a choice. If she didn't agree with a decision her husband made, like making one of his lovers the educator/tutor of her son, the treatment got even worse. So no, I wouldn't call their marriage "agreeable".
Maria Haru what’s the book called? Sounds interesting
The one where the duchess had fencing matches in night gown with her lover is straight out of romance story. I'd love a movie adaptation of their relationship
Honestly, relationship goals
What about current King of Cambodia? He has never married, was a professional ballerino as a prince, and has been in a long term relationship with a man from his youth?
You mentioned Archduke Ludwig's brother, Emperor Max of Mexico. It's rumored that he was bisexual himself.
While he and his wife were a very loving couple, there are some (admittedly dodgy) sources that claimed he had a few male lovers in Mexico who he'd go visit in secret whenever he had a chance to step out of the castle.