The VERY Messed Up Origins™ of Percy Jackson and The Lightning Thief - Jon Solo
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I fr just found your podcast yesterday
How about if you make a video about Artemis fowl? that one was a disaster as well lol
After seeing this video I would love to see a video of the messed up origins of poseidon himself. He's probably my favorite of the Olympians and I'd love to see a fully fleshed out video on him. Would you please 🙏 🙂
Could you do Treasure Island?
You should do Eragon. Another good book series that got robbed of a good adaptation.
You know, considering Rick Riordan warned Fox repeatedly that all of their nonsensical changes from the books would make the fans hate the movies and he got booted off both projects only to turn out to be 100% right I think I understand why Disney agreed to let him work on the Disney+ show.
Yeah, sadly i still have no faith in the disney+ adaptation.
Ive check any google search on their cast and if the appearance from books to adaptation a pet peeved of yours, once again we're gonna get dissapointed in that area. Anyone you love in the book is beyond unrecognisable.
I believe the cast is all on Disney, cause theres no way Rick who cares about his work would do this to himself and his fans THE SECOND TIME...
So yeah, once the trailer drops just to double check if what was reported to be true about the cast. Im just gonna give up on ever seeing the percy jackson i know and love on the big screen.
(Im not american nor white. I wanna add that before someone start talking about race.., but this shit is getting on my nerve. Other people from all over the globe read and grew up on this book too. All we wanted was a good adaptation and characters we love from the book literally coming to life. Im brown and i dont go wishing every book character i read has the same skin as me..srsly so annoying...)
@@bigfellowjamarcus6271 honestly you have too much faith in Rick bc I think it was Rick's decision. He's defended it many times in his blog, said he would take personality and vibes over appearance and also, well Rick isn't perfect and the author isn't always right
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Welp thanks for letting me know.
Now im disappointed in 2 things lmao.
@@bigfellowjamarcus6271 I don’t mind the casting choices I’ve seen. I’ve seen people object to Annabeth being played by a black actor, which I’m assuming was something you objected to since you mentioned race specifically. So I’ll offer another perspective that might help. I really liked that Annabeth in the books was a blonde girl because at the time there were all these jokes and stereotypes about the “blonde bimbo”. Annabeth existing as herself in the books was a challenge to those misogynistic stereotypes since she was so intelligent, wise, and competent. There are even moments in the series where characters underestimate Annabeth because of her appearance, and she even plays into that to her advantage. That’s part of why she meant so much to many girls who read the books and why so many were so bothered by the actor in the movies having the wrong hair colour, even though it was such a minor deviation. Those stereotypes aren’t so common these days though. However, due to racist and misogynistic stereotypes many people underestimate black girls in similar ways. And while a black actor doesn’t reflect the physical appearance of the character in the books, I think the casting choice does more accurately reflect the way Annabeth’s character challenges misogynistic stereotypes. So in that way you could see the deviation from the character’s appearance as remaining more true to the characterisation now that society has changed.
Personally, I’m just glad the actors are appropriate ages. Apparently their acting and personalities really suit the characters too, and that’s very important. It can be hard to find good child actors and Rick seems to think they’ve succeeded at that.
I don’t think anything will compare to how I imagined things in the books, and I already have the books, so that’s another reason I don’t care too much if details differ so long as it stays spiritually true to the books. With Rick working on the project closely I’m sure any deviations from the book will still be true to Rick’s style and what we love about his stories.
Maybe you still won’t see it the same way, but hopefully this’ll help you see it from another perspective and make you more comfortable giving the tv series a chance.
@@bigfellowjamarcus6271 oof sorry. I'm kind of disappointed in the casting too but I'd still watch the show. You have no idea if the casting choices will leak into the rest of the show or if what you think is gonna happen. I mean I hope your basis for a good book to show adaptation isn't just appearance accuracy
Fun fact, there is actually a Percy Jackson musical, that is 1000x more faithful than the movies. It’s actually pretty good and pretty funny
the musical is awesome! i listen to the ost all the time
The musical goes so hard
Northern town parody musicals had an even better version in my opinion it’s hilarious and faithful to the books
There's a musical ?? 😳 now I didn't know that, i will have to look into that one.😃 Although I have been to the back to the future musical which was truly amazing there had a flying car and everything 😃, shrek the musical, school of rock and of course the rocky horror picture show are also amazing. 😃
Only problem I have with the Musical is that they made Percy a total coward idiot and he's absolutely _not that._ Other than that, I can get down with the musical.
Spoilers for the original series: It seems so small when talking about all the changes but to be completely honest the fact that everyone just knew who Percy's dad was and that he never had to stay in the Hermes cabin actually is the most significant change between the book and the movie because of its implications for the motivations of each character. The driving force behind Luke's betrayal is because of the poor and uncaring treatment of the other demigods and his failure in his old quest which allowed him to be bitter enough to be convinced by Kronos to try and take over. This theme is explored through all of the books and comes to fruition after the main war were Percy denies immortality as his reward in order to challenge the gods to give a shit and try to prevent another Luke from happening. This movie made it impossible to actually continue on with the whole series and ruined Lukes motivations and how he and Percy are foils to each other.
damn, loved this series The Last Olympian is so good
also the end where he fights ares, why didn't they keep that?
@@axepig2066 propably needed more time to give us that sweet, sweet Grover legs fanservice, cocidering how othen they zoom in on them….
Then there’s the second movie which teased a third film even though they ALREADY DEFEATED THE MAIN VILLAIN OF THE FRANCHISE
@@RogelioALoya yeah, Kronos isn’t much of a threat after being b*tch slapped into submission by Percy
Admittedly, Percy is not always the most logical character but as a TWELVE year old boy in the first book with some pent up anger his idea to send Medusa’s head is more out of spite than anything else. Now, my memory of the series is rusty but I’m sure even Annabeth at least pointed out how bad of an idea that was. Percy didn’t care - it was essentially his way of flipping them off (apart of a LONG list of times where he somehow manages to get away with telling off the Greek gods without being killed on the spot).
I also remember Annabeth telling him it’s a very bad idea. But again, Percy is a twelve years old boy who just lost his mother, like, a week ago. He’s angry at the gods, and that’s actually a similarity between him and Luke that I really enjoyed: they’re pissed at the gods. They suffered because of the gods’ carelessness. They are both angry, but Percy uses it to flip the gods off, and Luke goes to try and kill them.
Killed on the spot is kinda hard considereding how many godlike beings he bested in a straight fight.
In the musical, it goes like this
Annabeth: The gods will think we're impertinent.
Percy: We are impertinent.
*Percy has no idea what impertinent means.
Just re-read the book to confirm this... True.
Didn't Grover (since he could sense Percy's emotions) also say something about one reason he did it was to also show his father what he accomplished because deep down he wanted approval from his father (or something like that).
As someone who read all 5 books before the movie was even announced, it always makes me happy to hear someone acknowledge the atrocity in a perfectly structured and competent way.
Same!
I DIDNT WVEN NOTICE HOW BAD THIS ADAPTATION WAS LIKE THE SEA OF MONSTERS FOR ME USED TO BE ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE AS AN ADAPTATION COMPARED TO THIS ONE BUT NOW….
To me, the movies feel like someone had read a rough synopsis of solely the one book they make into the movie and just filled in the blanks.
@@melindamuller4466 they probably read 1 sentence from the synopsis on the back of the book
I loved the movie when I was little... Then I read the books. It all went downhill from there.
I am still so mad they never even had Ares appear in the movie. I was so excited to see their showdown come to life
We were absolutely ROBBED of that showdown. The fact that when Walker Scobell was asked which scene he was most excited to film his instant answer was “Ares fight” is just so representative of everyone who NEEDS to see it in live action
@@skylark7921 I love Walkers response but also put both those bullies in their place I want Nancy and Clarisse to get their just deserts as it starts alot of stuff with the Ares cabin it's not just all him fighting their dad
Their showdown in book so cinematic.
One of my favorite chapters ever writen
I am SO excitded to see it in the disney+ series omg
Tbh, I wasn’t aware of the changes the movie made until the lotus casino part where there was no zebra. That was when I realized that the movie wasn’t faithful to the book😅
Rick's letter to the movie team is one of the most cathartic things I've experienced in life. It. Tears. Them. To. *Shreds.*
You forgot to mention that in the books the demigods were not allowed to have any electronics for the fear of the monsters finding them, yet in the movie you see a lot tech. The kids have cell phones, heck Luke is even playing a video game? I'm surprised the camp is still standing. And where do they get their Wi-Fi?
They do have Thalia's barrier still but no demigod would get in or out cause of the horde of monsters at their door step.
I don't remember if more is mentioned in the other books, but I remember that they weren't allowed to use cell phones because it'd be worse than sending a signal flare to monsters, but that's the only thing about technology I remember, except that they're fine with vehicles
I haven't read the books, but why would electronics attract the monsters? I understand light and noise, but I'm perplexed
@@chronic_hatred2k22 Using a cell phone for communication is extremely dangerous because monsters are attracted to demigod voices being sent through the air using cell phones. This was the result of a spell cast by Lamia, a daughter of Hecate who had her children killed by Hera and transformed into a monster by the goddess. As a result, most demigods communicate via Iris Messaging which monsters cannot detect or track.
@@chronic_hatred2k22Aight it’s been a long time and someone correct me if I get some small details wrong
But basically in a side story, it was revealed that a monster had essentially cursed demigods to be more trackable if they used any form of electronic technology. Example: Using a phone signals to monsters where you are. In the event a demigod has to use a phone in the story, they usually have to drop it and leave the location quickly afterwards
Which makes sense as Percy Jackson takes place in modern times and the mythological world Rick Riordan wrote evolved along with the times. Everyone uses electronic technology nowadays = makes it super easier for monsters to find and kill demigods
As a teacher, one of my favorite things to do each year is to see how many kids I can get obsessing about the Percy Jackson series. This year was my biggest amount yet, with at least ten. The best part is I'm their math teacher, so the only time I get to see them read is if they finish early, in the morning, or after school. It's just so awesome seeing kids read for fun.
You sound like a wonderful teacher!
thats so adorable omg. the kids are gonna look back fondly on you and their time in the percy jackson universe!
how do you relate it to math
You are a mastermind, my friend
@@PeterParker-ff7ub Well, the first chapter of 'Lightning Thief' is related to math but not in a good way :)
An idea I've had for a messed up origins is the messed up origins of mermaids. They're such popular creatures, and there's so many different depictions of them in media, some good some evil, and where they come from in myth is something I've always wanted to know, and I know you're the guy to do it.
Yeah the Japanese ones are freaky.
Mermaids are fascinating as hell! I’ve always wanted to do a video on them. I plan on diving deeper into the lore and history of more *creatures* this year, so maybe mermaids can be part of that lineup :)
@@JonSolo Nice. Good luck to you.
@@JonSolo growing up Ariel was definitely my favorite Disney princess and that was basically my first exposure to mermaids of course there's that theory that one of the mermaids from Peter Pan might be her mother from the prequel when she was younger and that's all we really see them as far as Disney but the Harry Potter ones are definitely not beautiful they are more of scary type mermaids and I would definitely like to see how these sorts of mythological creatures might have been in different types of mythology also there's that whole little thing in The Little mermaid where technically she is the like cousin of Hercules cuz maybe her father was like the first cousin cuz I believe Triton's father was the brother of Zeus or something like this
Mermaids are real!
We can all agree that the lotus casino scene is the only acceptable scene in the entire movie. And when Charon burns the dollars Grover gives him (I thought it was a decent joke)
When I watched to that part, I became upset because they completely removed the zebra who was suppose to come out of the truck 😅
I wasn’t paying attention to the changes the movie made until that part
"This is a PEN!"
@@boredbutyeah7253 fair
I watched both movies before reading any of the books thinking it was a great movie but after reading 3 of them it really puts into perspective how absolutely absurd the movie really aren’t
I watched the movie because at the time I didn’t have the book and was only able to borrow it from a library and when I read the book I was absolutely disappointed in the movie.Also when people in the Percy Jackson fandom don’t talk about the Percy Jackson movies, and when they do they call it the Peter Johnson movies
same, I first watched the movies and loved the idea of greek gods in modern world, then I find out that there are books and read them happily, and learned how bad the movies actually were
Same here I enjoyed the movies then read the books now can't even stomach the movies lol
What I’m gathering from this comment section is that the only good thing the movie did was make people read the Percy Jackson books.
I watched the movies first and was intrigued because I love Greek mythology. After I watched the second one I wanted to know what happened next so I started reading the books. I was so heartbroken to see how the moves just trashed the books and have not been able to watch since. I’ve read all 10 books in the series several times and I’m happy for the Disney show since Rick is supposed to be involved.
I was wondering how someone who discovered the movies first would react. But hey, at least it got you interested in Riordan’s work right? I suppose it should be commended for that.
Something similar happened to me. My family took me to the first movie and i was OBSESSED. But i grew up in a "read the book first" house hold (we all read a lot) and so i was bought the whole set. I refuse to watch the movie now and i was heartbroken.
Same dude same
I too seen the movie first, I didn't know about the books until I seen that my SIL was reading the series. I sat down read the last chapter and was hooked, now I've read all 10 books
@@vicann023 Have you read the Kane Chronicles by Rick Riordan yet. They are based on the Egyptian God's and are very well done.If you enjoyed the Olympians you may enjoy them.
I commend you for going through the movie multiple times to do this breakdown. I can only imagine how painful it must have been.
I probably would’ve died if I did what Jon did.
Compared to the book… the movie sucks for sure but I watched the movie before reading the book and I loved it. I don’t think it’s the worst movie ever, it just doesn’t do the book justice.
@@wittyblonde6728 I feel like that with the first movie as well. But as soon as you read the book I can barely sit through the movie now cause I know how amazing it truly could’ve been and it just feels so studio built to try and be typical movie. But you’ve read the book so you know this as well haha
@@hamoiq908 I was reading the book at the same time as my Social Studies teacher was showing it and I just rubbed me the wrong way since I finished it before I finished the book. I was about half way through the book at the time. Like I enjoyed it but I just felt like it was meh and eventually bad when I was able to finish the book this year.
@@hamoiq908 I can read the book after seeing the movie and I absolutely acknowledge the books did a way better job but I can still enjoy the movies
You know, I first watched the movie and being my young naïve self I liked it. A couple of months later a read the books and truly realised how horrific the movies are. And I am so excited for the Disney plus series of Percy Jackson because I saw a teaser trailer and it already looks really good. Also I liked your commenting, it was funny.
I haven't read any of the books, but I heard how atrocious the movie was before I even watched it from a youtuber called Lavendertowne, she did a video where she drew the characters how they were originally described in the books
They completely ignored the fact that Persephone and Hades’ story revolves around the idea that during the fall and winter months they are together, and when its the spring and summer months Persephone is with her mother Demeter. This is literally something the Percy talks about in the books as well.
you hit the head on the nail. PLEASE do the second movie because they absolutely botched it by having the ending of the series in the second movie and left out every other book
@BakedXavierPlympton666 As far as I can tell, they knew a third movie wouldn't be received well. They'd shot themselves in the foot with the first one, so they wouldn't be able to make a faithful adaptation without throwing the others out. With that in mind, it was obvious that the second was going to be the last one, so they tried to pull a "Phantom planet" and get in as much as they wanted to before ending it:
The hero saved his friends, got his leading lady, and lived happily ever after.
The villain lost everything, and was left alone to suffer a horrible fate.
And the relative who came back to help in the end is just kinda sat there while the next step in their life is pretty much left to the imagination.
I remember watching the second movie in theaters with my brother and my mother. I thought the first one was okay, but yeah. I read all 5 before this movie.
I was heavily disappointed. It was somehow worse. So much so, I am glad it died right then and there and yet I have yet to read Ricks new series, the Sons/Heroes of Olympus. It altered my opinion of the franchise so much.
Honestly, Disney+ might be better on the sole grounds at least it cant be worse then the movies. I hope. It has Rick after all. I have some faith.
Lol nail on the head I think u mean😂😂 just ironic
I love the Percy Jackson series, even as an adult. I am actually listening to them again for the millionth time. They are my comfort series. I even got to go see the musical in NYC when it first premeiered. Nothing like having the musical being so much better than the movie. Granted the musical did actually have the author help with the script.
I was thinking this too, I listen to the musical quite a bit, and I’m like, just from the songs this is better than the movie ever was
I literally just read the whole series again for liek the 20th time and it still doesn’t disappoint
I'd honestly rather have Percy Jackson as an animated show than a live action series, considering how I love the art version of the characters.
EDIT: by the way, I read all the 5 books of Percy Jackson.
I remember how confused I was reading the book after watching the movie wondering why everything was so different.
I'm glad they're doing a TV series and allowing Rick to give his input.
This could lead into them adapting his other series that take place in the same universe. Except the Kane Chronicles since that's going to Netflix.
I was yelling “WHERE IS THE BLUE” through the whole movie XD
OMG Kane Chronicles is getting adapted too?? Aaaaa I didn't know about that I'm so excited for both 😭❤️
I’ve read all of the books and I agree with everything you said. I’m commenting because I can actually feel Jon’s rage through the screen. He’s giving off more “I’m so disappointed” vibes than my dad when I didn’t become a doctor.
not being a doctor might not be a bad thing so i hope you don't feel too bad about it as well :) It's more important to do what you prefer
I'm so excited for the new PJO show, especially because the author has control on how it goes
same honestly
Annabeth has been race swapped she's black now Rick Riordan has gone woke don't be surprised dear readers after the Magnus Chase 📚
@@byronrush9802 um why does it matter what race was casted as annabeth?
@@byronrush9802 People are still angry about this? It took me like 5 seconds to get over it
@@byronrush9802 your racist, sorry not sorry
Oh yeah the thing about Harry being so interested in the magic around him makes the character more relatable to some people, but when Percy sees all the greek myth stuff I would LOVE to live, he's just like, "Oh... okay"
Bro is basically too busy to integrate his new reality. Harry got a bunch of time at hogwarts to make friends, learn magic etc. Percy didn’t even have time to settle into CHB before he got yeeted into the real world
11:57 ngl I totally read his motivations in the book as only saving his mom (and I didn't watch the movie before). Kind of goes with the whole loyalty is his fatal flaw thing (which I still kind of find it stupid but yk it checks out if you see that he's usually trying to save someone when he gets into trouble/is the entire quest like Annabeth and Nico). I also liked that more because it was different. Usually the hero is selfless but it makes Percy more relatable if his motivation was his mom, not some other bs that he's not really involved in and has no other attachment to these people, especially Poseidon. I mean if you're a 12 year old who just lost their mom and knew you could get her back, well of course you'd want to. It was more like a secret motivation that he didn't tell anyone and just told them whatever they wanted to hear
Yeah Percy initially didn't really care about clearing Poseidon's name since he was never around until he needed Percy's help.
I remember reading Percy in 6th grade and absolutely loved reading it. When the movie came out I was so confused I thought in was reading the wrong Percy because there’s was no way some made this based off of the books I read.
Similarities between the movies and books: the character and location names, about half of the basic premise, the existence of certain magical objects.
3:12 -In the mythology blue is traditionally the color of Zeus, alongside grey and, on occasion, white. Sea green, and just green in general, are considered to be the colors of Poseidon. Even if blue was considered his color, it would have to be a much darker ocean blue.
Spoiler Warning for "The Last Olympian" (Book 5)
In "The Lightning Theif", there isn't 20 cabins. There is 12 cabins, one for each of the Olympians (minus Hestia). They add 8 more cabins after Kronos is defeated due to the whole "you have to claim your children" oath.
It is weird my brother and I just got done with a conversation about the books (his girlfriend made him read the books and he asked to borrow mine). Shared this with him and came to the realization that I might have created a monster by letting him read them.
It made him... Fury-ous?
@@DrDolan2000 That made me laugh. I needed that today, So thank you so much.
@@DrDolan2000 indeed I must agree, an amazhang pun from you, good sir
Have you ever considered the origins of Vampirism? There are so many fascinating stories and differents variations of what they are, almost all of them following complete different rules with one of my personal favorites being the recent Van-Helsing TV series which features a descendant of Abraham Van-Helsing, Vanessa Van-Helsing who, after the world becomes overrun by Vampires, she discovers that when bitten, her blood causes Vampires to become human again, curing them.
Yes! Surprised I haven’t seen a video on Dracula
From what I know the real origin of it was the rumors and myths around the real historical Vlad III and then everything got weird over the centuries and now we’re where we are with vampires
@@joa513quin he's actually done a vid on vampires since this comment was posted
I always wonder how screen writers screw up books so badly. Like, you have a WHOLE BOOK RIGHT THERE. The hard work is already done!
"I think this movie's parents were related." 😂
I think the biggest disappointment for me when I watched the film was the lack of the blue food thing. It's weird, but it really resonated with me. So when it wasn't there, I completely lost faith in movie adaptations.
@HannahBanana That’s a thing?!? What an even bigger disappointment!
Sadly you will find most films based on books are a disappointment and the books are always always better than the film, even books you love and you feel so excited when you hear there is going to be a film can often leave you feeling so disappointed and let down, harry potter is a prime example along with miss peregrines home for peculiar children both leaving people with so many questions unless you have read the books although i do like the films they still left me feeling they couls have done bettr, especiallywith harry potter dont get me wrong im a tital harry potter geek and have been to the harry potterstudios in Londontwice and i will go again, i love the books so much so i actually collectthem and have over 70 harry potter books, im ocd with crazy ocd book issues 🙈🤣 but as much as i like the films they missed so many important facts out leaving people asking questions such as how could the weasley twins afford to open the joke shop, how did barty crouch escape prison, a example of where the film is as brilliant and as great as the book is papillon the 1970s version not the new one, and one where the film is better although rare the film boy in striped pyjamas is a much better than the book infact I hated the book lol. Have you actually seen a film as good as the book please let me know as I would love to read and watch them. Also a rile I do have is I always read the book before watching the film mainly because I just love reading more than watching films lol 😃📚
@☆HannahBanana the Bookworm☆ I saw that interview and I'm still salty about it😂,,urghh none of them have no idea what the meaning of blue food
Many scenes would've been improved if Poseidon's voice overs were removed, as it would've given Percy more agency in his decisions.
I find it absurd how the movie didn't think that including The scene where Percy fell from the St. Lious Arch and then was able to use a lighter under water(also the scene where he was given the pearls by the water nereid ) because it was so iconic.
And Percy mailing Medusa's head to Mt. Olympus is fitting to his character considering his wit and sarcasm. That combined with him being twelve and having sometimes having poor impulse control also warrants his decision.
This was a really good review lmao. What’s funny is that Jon keeps the same tone of voice throughout the entire video whilst talking about how much emotional pain he put his wife and himself through. Absolutely hilarious.
If you want a better Percy adaptation please react to the Percy Jackson musical even from the first line it’s 10 times more accurate and fun “I didn’t wanna be a halfblood”
That musical is epic
Even just the music is fantastic!!
And we’re lost in the woods somewhere in New Jersey and we’re never gonna make it to LA!
@@novatryxward9372 Grover talking to the squirrel was on the level or Kronk
My favorite was lost in la and Annabeths dream
As someone who has read the whole series I can say without a doubt that no one hates the Percy Jackson movies more than the Percy Jackson fans
What about Rick?
@@DrDolan2000 That's a good point
I can't wait for the new Disney plus series! I have high hopes considering they actually took direction from Rick riordan
the made annabeth african-american. WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT!?
ps. i'm not being racist but weren't one of the main problems that the movie characters don't look like book characters? (30:35)
@@ahaang_ One of the main problems was age, not appearance. The fact that they aged up the characters ruined the plot which relied on the prophecy about a child of the big 3 turning 16. By aging them up they took away both a integral plot point and took away a part of the character's motivation. Their races don't effect the plot at all
@@ahaang_ yea I get that but I think she still fits the character if you know what I mean. And the my even braided blond strands into her hair
I’m a huge fan of the Percy Jackson books and I couldn’t believe how badly they messed up the movie. They also left out the fact that in the book, Grover was kind of reluctant to go with Percy on the quest.
I admire your patience to willingly put yourself through the horrendous torture that is watching this movie. I hate how in the movies Persephone is even IN the Underworld. Persephone is only in the Underworld during wintertime. This book takes place around the end of the school year, so it's summertime. Therefore, Persephone shouldn't even be in the Underworld. The movie also reduces the stakes of the plot line SO much. In the books we're constantly reminded of how little time the characters have left, which builds up tension as to how the book will end. The movies also make Percy a lot more stupid. Perry Johnson is always told everything by his father which is SO frustrating, because even though Percy isn't a genius like Annabeth, he has enough common sense to figure out some things on his own (i.e., how the water seems to heal him, how Ares was the saboteur, which ride at the water park Ares left his shield on, etc.)
I lost all the respect I had for Chris Columbus when I read the summary and learnt of the plot of this movie (as I've never committed to watching that atrocious garbage). I hope the Disney+ series is lightyears better than this abysmal failure and insult to the film industry.
I am super-excited for the TV series. I love that Riordan is so involved in the project and though the cast doesn't look exactly as they're described in the books, the author himself was involved in the casting and if he says these kids are the best ones for the job, then I'll trust it.
I remember going onto Rick Riordan’s website after watching the first movie (and having read the books) and literally right in the home page was a paragraph telling people to not contact him at all about the movie and that any emails mentioning the movie would go straight to spam and I think he even had a separate page just talking about he knows that the books were disrespected and he doesn’t want to be reminded about it any more. I felt so bad for him but I’m so happy that he’s finally getting what he deserves with the new Disney+ series.
I swear if they can't do the moment where he gets healed by the water right in the Disney version I'll be pissed
In Myth the signature weapons of the Furies are whips. If that Abomination use a whip it would hit itself when pulling the whip back.
Honestly I watched the first movie before reading the books and I thought it was entertaining. Then I read the books and was outraged by how different it is
Convinced my boyfriend to read it. He liked the percy jackson movies. He now agrees with me that they are trash and he’s only a few chapters into the first book
Great video, but there were two things you haven’t explained detailed enough. The age difference because it was such a key part of the book series and Percy leaving Grover in the underworld wich is absolutely against his character, wich is mainly based on loyalty
Hey Jon it only 12 cabins at camp half-blood for the first 4 book only on book #5 at the end do the rest of minor gods get cabins. It was the deal Percy made with Zeus for saving the Olympians, that all the minor gods had to claim there kids so they would know who their parent was and they didn’t have to stay in cabin 11 anymore
Ty I was hoping someone would mention this
Yeah, I hate it when directors change the stories of books. Such as the Blood & Chocolate book versus the Blood & Chocolate movie. I was losing my shit, yelling and fuming while watching the movie after reading the book for years prior. So I totally understand. Great video! I always enjoy these. Thank you for what you do.
Overreacting + Malding + Cope + What the hell is even that + L
I can't agree with this video more. I remember reading the first Percy Jackson series and going to see it in the theater. I was so excited for this movie and I will never forget the rage I felt coming out of the theater afterwards. It was the absolute worst. I couldn't hate it more😂 and I remember telling myself if they had gone with the book and did what was done with the Harry Potter series, it would've been a hit.
That movie didn't need to appeal to adults, the books weren't written for them. He absolutely destroyed that movie's potential.
With that said, I can't wait for the series knowing Rick Riordan is working on it with the team.
You can tell this guy only read the first book when he made this review. Otherwise he would know that Poseidon cared more for Percy than any other Gods with their children. Poseidon even often visits the Jacksons when Percy was still a child because he loves Sally and her son very much to the annoyance of his Goddess Wife, Amphitrite. Fortunately she's not as bad as Hera. Amphitrite is more into ignoring Percy's existence than trying to kill him.
To be fair u can't really blame Hera or Amphitrite.
@@astrobee27 Yes you can with Hera. She's just a spiteful bitch that punishes the mortals her husband have affairs with instead of taking it out on you know Zeus himself.
@@NAJ_P_Jackson Yeahhh I mean she married him in the first place
@@astrobee27 fun fact, Hera was tricked by Zeus into marrying her after he ate his first wife. Didn’t start on love, and didn’t continue with love of legends are to be believed.
Weeeeell at least he actually read the first book only for the first movie review. Unlike the movies.
I really hope this new Percy Jackson show does good, not just because I love PJ, but because Rick Riordan has so many other good book series and this show's success could mean those coming to the screen. I would cry if I saw a Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard show being made.
College story time: There was a class on campus called Music of Harry Potter that goes over the music theory of those films, analyzes the soundtrack and discuss how the music fits in/compliments the story. One day, we somehow got onto the topic of the Percy Jackson movie and none of us could remember a single song from that movie, even when our professor pulled up the soundtrack on UA-cam it didn't spark any memories of us that had watched the film. We all agreed that the film overall was just bad.
You did an excellent job comparing the book to the movie.
Now I’d love you to do the 2nd movie.
“Percy Jackson & the Sea of Monsters”
the "you broke the rules so you're my favorite" part is literally Dumbledore about Harry and there's no way I'm the onlt one who noticed this
Thankyou so much for making a video about this
This is still my favorite book series and you’re my favorite youtuber so this is basically an early birthday gift for me🤧
Ah yes, my favorite movie,
Perry Johnson and the Landry Thief
Such a Mr.D aka Dionysus response right there hahaha.
I still struggled to bear the bare faced audacity that is the Percy Jackson series. Even the small clips were awful, but the video and content was great as always 👍🏾👍🏾
My grandmother owned both of the Percy Jackson movies when I was a kid and I adored them. When I found out they were based on books I was ecstatic and eagerly ran to my local book store to purchase them-with my own money, which wasn’t much as I got paid $5 allowance a week. At home, I made myself some popcorn, curled up on the sofa with a blanket five times bigger than I was, and cracked open the first of my new books, reading half of it all in one sitting. The further I got in the book, the more soured my opinion of the film became, to the point where I felt resentment and embarrassment for even enjoying the movies at all. How could I have been cheated so badly out of such a wonderful story for so long? I never completed the Percy Jackson series, though I owned the first two books. There was a tear in my heart left by the movies that the goodness of the first book could not repair, so I moved on. Later, I decided to read the Norse Mythology books featuring Magnus Chase, enjoying them very thoroughly! Maybe one day I will return to the original books, but I don’t know if I’ll ever have the heart to.
I adore the MCGA series but I do suggest reading the rest of PJO, as there are two other series (Heroes of Olympus and Trials of Apollo) which are very good imo and I think just makes you enjoy the characters more
I hope you read them. They are so good. It's a shame you didn't because of the movies. I always credit the movies for at the very least introducing me to the books. I saw the movie likes it so I also bought the book with my own money. And ended up being rewarded with something way way better.
Logan Lerman playing a "12-year-old boy" in these movies is like that one episode of Brooklyn nine-nine where sarge does drills and pretends to be a lost 8-year-old in a scene
As that 11 year old kid who watched this in theaters so excited they had made a movie of one of my favorite books at the time, I remember being angry at how awful the movie was and how nothing was the same
I still like Logan Lerman; he was cool. Had this been a TV series when Lerman was also a 12-year old (or at least able to pass as one), this probably could've worked
Also, having dyslexia and ADHD doesn't make you a loser. That's what waist-high pants are for
Anyone who says that is what a loser is a loser bro
Glasses don’t make you a loser
@@beatriceretops I'm just joshin' ya
I was SO excited to watch this as I'm a HUGE Riordan fan. Thanks Jon!
It's been a minute since I've checked out your videos... been a lot going on but I'm back and ready to binge watch like I used too
I read the whole series a long time ago, and even recommended it to a student in my placement and she loved it. But now I’ve wanted to reread it again. There was also something I wanted to say in a review done by the Mythology guy that I found it odd that the camp isn’t a summer camp and instead is a training ground for some reason.
Cant believe you're covering this. In elementary we read all the books and my school followed it up by surprising us with a visit from Rick Riordan himself
I was waiting for this!
I love your voice, dude! I can throw on videos I've watched a hundred times just so that I can do things with you on in the background lmao
Also, you might consider doing videos about Lore Olympus by Rachel Smythe. She does put her own spin on the myths. You mentioned Lore Olympus in your video about Apollo, might make sense if you expand on that. It might even be worth mentioning the controversy that arose because of Apollo's depiction in LO, it led to actual worshipers of Apollo getting attacked in mistreated because some people thought that the original Apollo from the myths and Lore Olympus Apollo were the same. Other than that, you can also mention both the similarities and differences Lore Olympus has with the myths.
As someone who has read all of the Percy Jackson and Heroes Of Olympus books, the second this movie started I was pissed. A huge plot point of the books is that Cronus needs Percy (or a child of the big 3) to be 16, so it’s a slow ageing all the way up to book 5. But when the movie starts and they’re already that age… that’s just rude
I think in the second film they tried to help this by saying the child needed to be 21, but it still ruins a lot of the character development because part of what makes this series so charming is the fact that these kids are /kids/ and not older teens or adults, and part of the journey is watching them grow up along with these quests and godly issues
Love the video fantastic work It actually kind of reminded me of Dominic nobles "Lost In Adaptation"
I love Jon’s sarcasm it’s so funny and his videos are so good keep up the good work Jon
i’m mad they changed how percy finds out luke is the lightning theft. the original scene was so emotional as him and percy are having a brotherly conversation and luke reveals to percy that he is the lightning theft then has the scorpion poison him. Then when annabeth finds out about luke’s betrayal basically finds out her brother is evil. the movie ruined that with luke just straight up being like “oh yeah btw i’m the lightning theft” then they battle on top of a building.
Also how they cut Ares from the movie. Honestly one of the coolest parts of the first book is Percy took on the GOD OF WAR and survived. The movie is just the worst.
@@dreamwolf3218 fr. it absolutely sucks
FINALLY something of Percy Jackson 😭💙
I can’t wait for the show, Rick has said he’s personally involved with the casting and that the child actors are stellar and embody the characters!
Great video, I would love a part 2!
Considering the mess Disney made of "Artemis Fowl" (which is perfectly watchable if you don't know the source material and horrific if you do) I'm a bit sceptical as to how they're going to adapt Percy Jackson. When it came to Artemis Fowl, I had the privilage to meet the director, Kenneth Branagh, at an event (I'm from Belfast Northern Ireland and he is too) and specifically asked him about Artemis Fowl and he said it was book acurate.... Fast forward several years and I can reliably say my "bum flap".
Thinking about it, it would be a good scene by scene comparison video as well, though it would require reading the first two books as the movie covers the plot of both "Artemis Fowl" and "Artemis Fowl: The Artic Incident".
THANK YOU!!!! Someone else who was horrified by Artemis Fowl!!!
Yeah but since Rick is going to be involved and based on the little things we’ve seen so far I’m not to worried. I trust that Rick will make sure Disney doesn’t change his series to much. And They better not touch nico! if Disney so much as thinks about removing anything from his character or any of the diverse characters I will throw hands!
I think they’ll do a much better job with Percy Jackson, especially considering how please Rick Riordan seems about the process so far. Artemis Fowl had a lot of issues behind the scenes, including the fact that Disney had been trying to make it a film for nearly 15 years prior to the release and they were never able to execute it. They were likely just eager to push out a film and figured the books were older and no one would care, and I don’t think the author had much to do with the film, either, since the rights were purchased by Disney around 2005.
Such a stacked and awesome cast, from Percy (can I say Perks of being a wallflower made me feel way too much), his mom, poseidon, Zeus, it has Uma Thurman Rosario Dawson, and more, portraying a cute and very clever and educational book... and it's CRAP.
The fact you’ve had multiple Sunny references has gained my sub. I mean I enjoy the content for sure but that was icing on the cake
Solo a legend for marking where the ad starts and ends so we can skip it, keep it up king👑
Saw the notification and clicked without a second thought, my rainy Friday just got so much better😍 thanks Jon😇
Solo my man...
you are absolutely a masochist and we are lucky you go through the pain so we don't have to
Coming from someone who watched the movie and then was led to read the books I absolutely loved the movie as you said. With not many unique mythology movies like this I think it’s pretty great
I LOVE the book series. Rick Riordan is one of my favorite writers. I was so disappointed in the movies because I was so exited about them when I heard they were going to make them. But then they changed it to the point were you can't even recognize the story. Many things are not logical. The things I liked about the books they either changed or left out. One of my favorite details about the camp was the cabins. The fact that Hera and Artemis had their own cabin because even thought they didn't have any demigod kids you couldn't just not give them their spot at the camp or how so many times the gods didn't bother to claim their kids they were just stuffed in the Hermes cabin. It shows the uncaring nature of the gods in general towards their (many, many) children.
Hey thank you so much for this latest video, I'm a huge Percy Jackson fan, so this really means a lot to me so I very much appreciate it. Also thank you so much for your other messed up origins videos; I can't imagine the amount of effort you put into these videos, so I just want to say: thank you, and I look forward to more messed up origins in the future. Sadly I don't have any ideas in mind, but if I think of anything, I will let you know.
Thanks Jon Solo, I always appreciate when I can watch another fan who can add to the verbal tongue lashing this failure of an adaptation deserves.
The moment I discovered this book series I was hooked and it help with reigning my love of Myth and Folklore.
That intro was excellent. *Applauds*
i am 5 minutes into this video and i feel so see/heard. thank you for breaking it down. the movies are so disrespectful to riordan's original work.
I watched this film a lot as a kid and every time I watched it, I felt like my humanity was slowly being sucked out of me to the point that my soul belonged to Hades.
I don't usually like books written in the first person, but I love your videos.
After watching this I’m going to look into buying the first book of the 5 book series and give it a go, thank you this is the motivation I needed to start reading books again
I'm actually looking forward to the new show. Riordan is appearently involved in even the minor desicions and from what I heard so far, it souds promising.
Oh my gosh! Thank you so much for making this messed up origins 💜 I absolutely refuse to watch this with my family for all the reasons you mentioned!
One thing that's not even mentioned in this video is that from the museum incident up until the end of the school year Grover and Mr.Bruner/Chiron literally use the most and keep everything happening a secret from Percy and he'd essentially gaslit into believing everything at the museum never happened. And it stays this way until Percy goes to ask for help with his Latin homework when studying for a test but then overhears Grover and Chiron's worried conversation and sees Chiron's strange shadow. Then on the bus ride back home(he was also at a boarding school btw. It was another way his mom tried to protect him from the monsters.) He gets Grover to slip up a little about the museum trip and then continues to figure more out about everything throughout the camping trip and moving forward.
Also: The Gabe smelling bad being a protection against monsters was true to the books, however like it was pointed out, in the books, Gabe wasn't really physical with Percy, only Sally(Percy's mom) behind closed doors. And Percy didn't know until she admitted it.
I'd love to see you do the second one as well
Watching Jon rage at the inaccuracies was hilarious 😂😭
Fascinating and depth video on the Difference between the Movie Pecy Jackson and the lightning thief and the actual book itself
In the book there were twelve cabins* not twenty 9:48
the other cabins like the ones for hades and Hypnos , iris and hebe, those ones were added in the heroes of Olympus series
anyways man really nice video, enjoyed it👍
As a kid I really liked the first movie but the second one has absolutely no hold on my memory. I loved the books too.