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  • @burnzybhoy9110
    @burnzybhoy9110 Рік тому +118

    Fun fact Abe Saffron is also the father of Alan Saffron from kitchen nightmares burger kitchen episode.

    • @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673
      @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 Рік тому +5

      yeah, Alan appears in this episode.😊

    • @volusize
      @volusize Рік тому +8

      Recognised him immediately Holy S

    • @wayveyjayvey
      @wayveyjayvey Рік тому +7

      They let him plug his book for all of 6 seconds haha

    • @Aussiejeep80
      @Aussiejeep80 Рік тому +8

      He dominated his son in that episode like his father did to him. Sad really. And took his inheritance money without his son’s knowledge to invest in his restaurant business.

    • @burnzybhoy9110
      @burnzybhoy9110 Рік тому +3

      @@Aussiejeep80 yeah its a real shame and wendy his GF was right to point out the money i feel alongside his son, i forget his name

  • @garymitchell6056
    @garymitchell6056 Рік тому +46

    NSW Police - historically more bent than a dogs hind leg!!

    • @hardscope7744
      @hardscope7744 8 місяців тому +1

      And no changes at all even now most corrupt

  • @newgabe09
    @newgabe09 2 місяці тому +1

    That was excellent.Great interviews and footage. Growing up in Sydney, I've known his name all my life but know I think I actually know something about him.

  • @PG-kd9mc
    @PG-kd9mc Рік тому +38

    I worked with the manager of the anz BANK in kings x for some years and there were some funny stories regarding Abe. One involved Abe bringing in a loose troubled nephew and guaranteeing his loan for a car. First 2 payments not made and my associate mentioned THIS to Abe on one of his deposit trips to the anz. THE VERY NEXT DAY nephew limped in on crutches and bandaged like a mummy with full pay out on car in small notes. He was though unable to speak through broken lips and had to write his details down to clear

    • @zdd22fixes47
      @zdd22fixes47 Рік тому

      Yeah, never happened... Stop trying to glorify a low i.q mafioso puppet murderer... I'm sure you and your homophile lover at the bank have lots of inflated little stories to tell..

    • @PG-kd9mc
      @PG-kd9mc Рік тому

      @@highcountrydelatite Abe had most coppers in tow on a quid and enjoyed first Class relationships with Commissioner Fred Hanson and his predessor. These days its about hot dog lawyers and burden of Proof. Phones and give ups are what brings crims undone today

  • @carltongirl95
    @carltongirl95 Рік тому +34

    Never heard of him but I'm not from Sydney...thank goodness my parent's bought me up to know right from wrong...his Son seems confused on one hand he talks about how proud he is that he's his Son...then blamed his father for his Mum's passing...still he wasn't a nice man he treated his wife dreadfully having many affairs and children with other women and he didn't seem ashamed of himself either...weird man 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    • @DarthSillious
      @DarthSillious Рік тому +3

      He ran prostitutes in Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth, owned venues in all as well. He owned the Raffles in Perth where he was arrested.

    • @charmaineswaddle2286
      @charmaineswaddle2286 Рік тому +4

      I agree with what you said about the son being confused…I thought the same…

  • @rominahorn427
    @rominahorn427 Рік тому +29

    Creepy father and son 🥴😡

  • @MrBobbit666
    @MrBobbit666 Рік тому +13

    His son blows his reputation way out of proportion

  • @rosshitchen-ij6en
    @rosshitchen-ij6en Рік тому +22

    These days the Crime Commision would of frozen all his assets and took the lot.These days in Australia you don't even have to be charged with a crime.

    • @jw-vx8im
      @jw-vx8im Рік тому +7

      It's gone to far the other way

  • @philstrachan
    @philstrachan Рік тому +12

    Probably why Allan found it so easy to steal from his son - checkout Gordon Ramsay's Restaurant Nighmares.

  • @jennifermcgrath8524
    @jennifermcgrath8524 2 місяці тому +2

    I actually nursed him! As a 18 yr old and very naive .. I asked what sort of work did he do … his reply.. oh darling just a business man ! … and I’m asking what sort of business ? … he said .. go ask your mum and dad .. they might have heard of me . 😮

  • @DiHandley
    @DiHandley Рік тому +32

    His son seems somehow so proud of his father for being such a good criminal. I wouldn’t be!

    • @DarthSillious
      @DarthSillious Рік тому

      The same people run the Cross today that ran it in the 60s I've been told, with Abe gone that can only mean one thing

    • @davechristian7543
      @davechristian7543 Рік тому +3

      He's Greek wat do you expect PMSL

    • @theodoreconstantini2548
      @theodoreconstantini2548 Рік тому

      @@davechristian7543 He's not Greek they were Jewish .

    • @OgglyGoogly
      @OgglyGoogly Рік тому

      ​@@theodoreconstantini2548jewish is just a religion.
      Many greek jewish people not saying he is greek just saying you can have arab jewish people also

    • @Sweptundertherug
      @Sweptundertherug Рік тому +1

      Its his Dad, you stand by your family right.......😂

  • @nickeljims1532
    @nickeljims1532 11 місяців тому +10

    Abe's son had a restaurant that was in Gordon Ramseys kitchen nightmares , titled burger kitchen, season 5 episode 5 and 6.

    • @davidroe1409
      @davidroe1409 2 місяці тому

      Yep and Alan stole money from his son to open the restaurant his son sued him and the mother and got his money back the restaurant closed down

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial Місяць тому

      It's Wagyu

  • @rexpayne7836
    @rexpayne7836 Рік тому +4

    Great content and presentation. 😊

  • @4VaultBoy
    @4VaultBoy 2 місяці тому +1

    Holy!!
    The son, was on an episode of kitchen Nightmares!!
    He’s the guy who stole his sons inheritance to start a burger joint. He wrote a book about how terrible his father was, and then did the same thing to his son.

  • @paolobrossi78
    @paolobrossi78 9 місяців тому +2

    That Wayne Martin was a “ sir “

  • @John-nl4lt
    @John-nl4lt Рік тому +8

    You can be as big as you like but once the stools start singing 🎤 she’s all coming down around your ears. 😂

  • @skydeclair
    @skydeclair 11 місяців тому +7

    As a 17 year old living and working on the Cross at time the time Juanita nielsen disappeared roomers went around that she was put through through the sink minser in the carousel,

  • @ramiromaia592
    @ramiromaia592 8 місяців тому +5

    It's amazing that it only takes the tax department to take down criminals yet everything else gets ignored

    • @paulsz6194
      @paulsz6194 3 місяці тому +1

      Because they figured out they were the only ones, not getting the or "cut"…😂

  • @theodoreconstantini2548
    @theodoreconstantini2548 Рік тому +7

    The Luna park fire was in 1979.

  • @kchorusempire552
    @kchorusempire552 Рік тому +24

    I used to think everybody went broke during the Great Depression and other major crashes but they didn't ... Some made millions , I also thought everybody went out of business during these times but they didn't , some went into business , there's always depression / recession for some people and there's always a good time for others , it's all about

    • @MaxamedMalaq
      @MaxamedMalaq Рік тому

      Since I started my investment of $7,000 with Mrs Molly, I am now having $29,450 in my portfolio !!

    • @rukiruki4183
      @rukiruki4183 Рік тому

      ​@MaxamedMalaq Please, can someone get to speak with Mrs Molly!!?

    • @MaxamedMalaq
      @MaxamedMalaq Рік тому

      ​@rukiruki4183 yes she's mainly on what'sAPK

    • @MaxamedMalaq
      @MaxamedMalaq Рік тому

      + 142

    • @MaxamedMalaq
      @MaxamedMalaq Рік тому

      4261

  • @notoriousb.i.g9062
    @notoriousb.i.g9062 Рік тому +15

    Isn't this the guy that stole his son money to start his burger restaurant

    • @laankebygg3685
      @laankebygg3685 Рік тому

      No!

    • @KaiserAfini
      @KaiserAfini 3 місяці тому

      Alan is, the son of the mob boss. David (Alan's son) is also on this documentary, showing how much the stress affected him by the KN episode.

  • @lyndyloo675
    @lyndyloo675 Рік тому +13

    Wasn’t Abe the owner of the Raffles hotel back in the hey day? He did use to drink there (with detectives and cops) when in WA.

    • @DarthSillious
      @DarthSillious Рік тому +2

      Yes he did, great venue for live music back in the day

    • @lyndyloo675
      @lyndyloo675 Рік тому +2

      @@DarthSillious most definitely was

    • @waitawhileexplorer3904
      @waitawhileexplorer3904 Рік тому +3

      He lived on and owned the 5th floor.

    • @DarthSillious
      @DarthSillious Рік тому +3

      @@waitawhileexplorer3904 you're talking after it was redeveloped?

    • @jw-vx8im
      @jw-vx8im Рік тому +2

      A mate of my brother's was prawning there one night. Abe came out had a chat. Said he seemed a good bloke.

  • @mO3fnMon3y
    @mO3fnMon3y Рік тому +5

    WAIT isnt one of the talkers that guy from hells kitchen the aussie burger guy

  • @AndrewLester-r3l
    @AndrewLester-r3l Рік тому +13

    I was in the Ghost Train when it broke down. We waited about 20 minutes in there and decided to just get up and find a way out. We were tripping and could hear the kids and a man talking out the back end of it. They were the people that got killed. There was five of us. We just drove back to Woy Woy afterwards and heard of this fire on the news when we woke up. We heard stories of some bikee's hanging around that night and I'm wondering if that was us lot? LOL We did look a bit rough but didn't see any people there like bikee's so whoever said this could of been looking at us hahaha

  • @jeremyburri6984
    @jeremyburri6984 2 місяці тому

    That's crazy !!!

  • @shanenewton8560
    @shanenewton8560 11 місяців тому +2

    Carried on the Blackmailing Alan?

  • @bierstick
    @bierstick 5 місяців тому

    A tree looks huge when you’re up close to it!

  • @Michelle-q4t
    @Michelle-q4t 2 місяці тому +1

    The truth is its all just one crime group against the other ((corporate criminals who happen to enter govt and non govt criminals).

  • @John-nl4lt
    @John-nl4lt Рік тому +3

    I remember riding the ghost train

  • @fionakinlyside
    @fionakinlyside 4 місяці тому +1

    I don't know why people are so shocked there will always be an Abe Saffron the clothes and phones change that's all

  • @raycochrane3971
    @raycochrane3971 Рік тому +4

    Yabbers has no credibility. He was the minister who developed an oppressive prison regime and was a classic Liberal Party nasty as well.

  • @vampire6186
    @vampire6186 4 місяці тому +1

    Something odd about the son and grandson.

  • @paullaws4965
    @paullaws4965 2 місяці тому

    Every property he wanted to buy and they wouldn't sell caught fire , then look at luna park

  • @anitarose1122
    @anitarose1122 11 місяців тому +2

    What an absolute animal

  • @paulkemp6314
    @paulkemp6314 Рік тому +7

    His son looks like libaraich

  • @robertgroves391
    @robertgroves391 11 місяців тому +6

    Abe and his wife were members of the Bondi Diggers club, where he was an absolute gentleman, we played snooker on many occasions, we all knew what he did, but he was always a generous and friendly man.

    • @anitarose1122
      @anitarose1122 11 місяців тому +8

      And he killed the children and adult at the Luna park ghost train in 1979

    • @robertgroves391
      @robertgroves391 11 місяців тому +1

      @@anitarose1122 if you have proof of that please ring crime stoppers, opinions are like arseholes everyone has one. Nothing has ever been proven, and you probably didn’t even know him, just what is portrayed in the media.

    • @sexobscura
      @sexobscura 9 місяців тому

      I can't even imagine somebody who was involved in the nefarious activities such as he certainly was, as having the facade of a charming man of the landed gentry

    • @CryptoSteve007
      @CryptoSteve007 8 місяців тому +7

      Exactly how people described Roger the Dodger. Generous, charismatic and polite. I knew Roger. He would let people see what he wanted people to see. Abe and Roger were very good friends. Birds of a feather flock together.

    • @ReeseChown
      @ReeseChown 2 місяці тому +4

      I bet Juanita wishes she could play snooker

  • @Scott-up3bq
    @Scott-up3bq 5 місяців тому +1

    Richest man in the cemetery 🪦

  • @callumfreebairn8082
    @callumfreebairn8082 2 місяці тому +1

    abe was called ''mr sin''

  • @bartbug1
    @bartbug1 Рік тому +18

    Your Dad was a cvnt and you're cut from the same cloth.

    • @DarthSillious
      @DarthSillious Рік тому

      I heard he still runs the show

    • @DarthSillious
      @DarthSillious Рік тому

      @user-vl6xt2rt7p who was next in line? I'm told the same people run the Cross now that did in the 60's.

    • @jw-vx8im
      @jw-vx8im Рік тому

      Calm down

    • @DarthSillious
      @DarthSillious Рік тому

      @@highcountrydelatite unlikely maybe but not impossible, what would you say if I said I know someone who has been hiding since the 60s that is connected to this man?

    • @northlandrider5396
      @northlandrider5396 5 місяців тому

      @@jw-vx8im It's a valid observation. Sounds like you're the one having the palpitations.

  • @victoriaryan7909
    @victoriaryan7909 Рік тому +3

    May not have been a nice man but to be a face in world of crime you can't be, gotta give respect as a natural born criminal and being ahead of his time making connections and sharing cash to people who would protect him

    • @victoriaryan7909
      @victoriaryan7909 Рік тому

      @@highcountrydelatite
      You can't act like peewee Herman and live in that world the man had smarts about him if you like him or not

    • @nininininininini7511
      @nininininininini7511 11 місяців тому +4

      Nah he killed kids

    • @keysersoze503
      @keysersoze503 20 днів тому

      Abe murdered children

  • @zdd22fixes47
    @zdd22fixes47 Рік тому +5

    Remember Luna Park...

  • @silvasun5326
    @silvasun5326 2 місяці тому

    Very creepy stuff.

  • @edward9643
    @edward9643 8 місяців тому +2

    Far greedier than Mr Saffron is the tax department- he should've ensured that they were paid off FIRST

  • @peterm1826
    @peterm1826 3 місяці тому

    Unfortunately people like Abe in. Those types of positions. Often hurt the ones closest to them.

  • @laankebygg3685
    @laankebygg3685 Рік тому +3

    He also made a lot of legitimate money as well.

  • @denisegore1884
    @denisegore1884 8 місяців тому +2

    So Alan's son's might actually be his half-brothers then? Nowadays, you can do a DNA test for that. 😬

    • @IrishYobbo07
      @IrishYobbo07 Місяць тому

      He probably doesn't want to know

  • @warmonger8799
    @warmonger8799 3 місяці тому

  • @GrecianCowboy-e1m
    @GrecianCowboy-e1m 23 дні тому

    He’s Greek right ? Saffron is short for saffronidis or safronopoulos

  • @peterhelmore2766
    @peterhelmore2766 8 днів тому

    now he was a criminal , he got" hit men"to operate for him

  • @silvasun5326
    @silvasun5326 2 місяці тому

    The son comes across as if he has a score to settle…..with his father.

  • @TammyCreswell-l7h
    @TammyCreswell-l7h 3 місяці тому

    We call him Hugh Hefner were I'm from

  • @bartbug1
    @bartbug1 Рік тому +1

    I guess his son decided to 'putt from the rough' u like his Dad 😅

  • @EddieBravo-n6b
    @EddieBravo-n6b 6 місяців тому +1

    Abe Saffron was tied into the New York families from what i seen. Was pretty close with some of the big identitys they taught him all he new supposedly and he helped them expand their empire

  • @samp4050
    @samp4050 Рік тому +4

    Sounds like a good, wholesome man. 😂 Goodness!

  • @SaintCharbelMiracleworker
    @SaintCharbelMiracleworker Рік тому +2

    How does someone come to be nicknamed Mr. Sin and Gentle Satan?

    • @theodoreconstantini2548
      @theodoreconstantini2548 Рік тому +1

      Mr Sin was given to him by the Sydney press.

    • @sav7568
      @sav7568 Рік тому

      He owned a lot of brothels.

    • @sav7568
      @sav7568 3 місяці тому

      " Mr Sin " because he owned a lot of brothels.

  • @HAWK...214
    @HAWK...214 9 місяців тому +1

    the son is definately gay

  • @MrCites1
    @MrCites1 9 місяців тому +2

    Fun fact, Abe was a Jew

  • @peterburke8650
    @peterburke8650 Рік тому

    Yeah a man needs about four women on the go.

  • @johayes7529
    @johayes7529 Рік тому +13

    Abe was still trying his hardest to get young naive women into the sack up until he died. I refused a lot of bottles of Bollinger at the Burbon and beefsteak from that old dude.

    • @JulianStev54444
      @JulianStev54444 Рік тому +3

      He didn't have to try very hard my dear

    • @jw-vx8im
      @jw-vx8im Рік тому +2

      He must have been a good performer

    • @jennifermcgrath8524
      @jennifermcgrath8524 Місяць тому

      I nursed him ….. and I can tell you he was very well endowed !

  • @jeffreyappleby5266
    @jeffreyappleby5266 2 місяці тому

    She was absolutely beautiful nice

  • @siredith8846
    @siredith8846 Рік тому +2

    🕸✡🕸

  • @blazerk.7189
    @blazerk.7189 Рік тому

    Abe was a..'winner' because he made money.That's the measure.

  • @Reverands420
    @Reverands420 5 місяців тому

    Was abe saffron into trannies??