I think that the lack of cohesion throughout the epilogue is an entirely intentional creative decision. Its hard to genuinely talk about the end of LOTL in terms of happy or sad really, because to me Its about acceptance. Our place in the universe was never guarunteed, and it will not last forever. And some will live their entire lives without finding thier true purpose. Life is confusing, and harsh, full of missed opportunities, yet it can be beautiful. But everything will one day dissappear. At least it happens at all, just like the story. What it means to me at least. I love 2 yap
But that is the thing! Phos made it that way! Phos could've been happy way back then, but because they were so concerned with being useful like the others to be loved like the others, they didn't stop to realize that they were already loved in the way they were
I loved the epilogue so much. It wasn’t perfect, mostly cuz of how abstract and fricken existential a lot of it is. But I think that adds to the finale. Phos’ final form of existence is kinda the opposite of perfection, they can’t even move and must rely on being moved by the other siblings. But they all love each other, they wouldn’t ask anything more of each other. Perfection, power, ability, none of that matters, simply being there is what’s important. And that is incredible :)
I'm not sure if I'll ever read the final chapter as the microcosm containing a new iteration of the universe. Maybe this is the intention, but I read that as the last memory that remains in the very last remnant of Phos. Every other part of Phos becoming nothingness with everyone else, but what does remain is a gentle, happy reminder of something that made them happy, and the idea that they, too, made and continue to make others happy in one way or another. The themes of Buddhism and nirvana make me doubt that the cycle repeats in some way. It is the ultimate goal to end that cycle of rebirth, so i just have to assume that is the case. Of course, I feel like the ending was left just vague enough for the reader to project their own interpretation. Regardless, I am sad to see Phos go, but I am glad we got to see their story
try "SHY", i fucking cried in 30 chaps in, pepesha lore depressed my soul, took me the last chaps of HnK to cry because of "have a pleasant 10 thousand years", cinnabar death also got me, phos filled with despair running away from aechmea was also a moment, but damn shy got me so early, the early chaps hook you in but around the chap 25 you can see the build up for some tragedy, and the flashbacks are pure sadness and depression, so much the main character has to step in midway through flashbacks to save pepesha from dying from chronic acute high hyper depression
I've never read land of the lustrous. I still clicked on this video clueless of the plot. even just hearing this ending out of context was enough to make me tear up.
Play Nevermind he says it at the beginning then again knowing THIS I'm going to forget that he says that at the beginning once I go through the video😅😅
I love how getting a full picture of the story from start to finish and just time to digest everything that was Phos gives so much insight on the way that Ichikawa goes about linking various ideas together. She doesn’t really paint anyone as good or bad all throughout. One such example is how the last chapter lets Phos shatter and spread across the entire universe and it is seem with such joy while something like Yama spreading the ground up pieces of the lustrous into the moon as “evil” because of the point of view that we see things from (Phos truly letting go vs Phos searching for their lost kinships). I guess thinking of the last volume of material as an epilogue - post humanity - is a great way to interpret the series as long as it’s not seen as an epilogue to the story. But even that is somewhat off because as you mention we contemplate on humanity and happiness all throughout until the very last panel itself. I just hope this doesn’t reiterate the running narrative some individuals had to thinking the story had “ended” everytime Ichikawa went on hiatus and the rest of the story is optional as an epilogue. It would do a disservice with how calculated everything came out in the end (with the real time event of a phos colored comet in our visible eye as the last chapter released). Great video! I am one of the few who never saw the previous one 😅 let me rectify that and watch it soon.
The ending is so confusing to me but I still like it! It makes me glad the phos found peace and happiness. And makes me think that everyone can have that too despite the suffering we’ve experienced.
sweet dreams dear gem, may your light reach everyone, shining brightly all the while I like the small theory about the reason of so much wait for the ending to be released, the comet pons-brooks, described as "The Pons-Brooks comet, which has a beautiful mint color similar to Phosphophyllite" is a comet that is visible from earth every 70 years, and the manga just ended around the same time this comet started its cycle near earth, It's fun to think that Ichikawa made us wait that long just to end it around the same date, and in my opinion, very meaningful to the last 2 pages of the manga as well. the phos comet will be forever in my memories, and some of us will try to see it again in 70 years :) I couldn't watch this video at work calmly without tearing up a little, this ending still hits as hard as a rock in the head, great video and narration :)
Returning back towards the totality of oneness, wholeness and Unification. It's the idea that nothing really dies. It just returns back into the greater universe to become that little spark for someone else.
Literally just randomly thought about your character arc study video today (after watching it 7 months ago), and watched it again because it was so good. At the end you said the ending was coming out spring 2024, so I thought 'huh wonder if I can find it' I check your channel and BOOM there's this. Posted just 2 days ago. How the-
It's a little weird for my taste, but the series has always been like that. It's a beautiful way to end the story and I actually don't mind that things aren't explained towards the end. It makes it seem like we're in the shoes of Phos. No longer questioning things but instead just accepting them for what they are. Oh yeah, by the way, someone is making a game based on Land of the Lustrous
Before I go on about my opinions of the epilogue and ending, I'd like to thank you. You're the reason I began reading Land of the Lustrous. Without your video on Phos, I likely wouldn't have found it during a part of my life where I needed its message the most. Now on to the review. I personally think the ending is perfect. To me, it's exactly what I wanted but not entirely what I expected. The theme of acceptance that outlines the epilogue perfectly captures how I believe Phos' character arc should have ended. It's a weird ending, but one that I never once felt overstayed it's welcome. It forces you to accept, like Phos has to. You have to accept that the rocks just exist, that the flowers hold entire worlds. It's amazing - in my opinion - how the writer managed to do that. The final image makes me think the entire point of the manga was to give a message to others. I see the comet as an abstract idea of kindness. Phos, after accepting themselves and becoming happy spread that to others who need it. The young Phos needed that happiness, and so old Phos sends it by accident. It's a grand and tough to grasp idea that I love. Land of the Lustrous resonates so well with me because I've struggled with self image and esteem which the series outright centers around. If I'd summarise the message that I took from it, it would be "accept yourself, accept others". That's a difficult task, but one Land of the Lustrous introduced me to. Once again, thank you for both reading and introducing me to this amazing series.
The ending reminds me so much of ending of Outer Wilds Once all is done and new big bang happens, you are left on a picture of the new universe, with new people, with strange planets. You can't explore them, but that's ok The story ended, at least yours did And that's ok Sometimes explanations for everything are not needed Sometimes it's just best to rest after the long jurney Enjoying the view
Welcome back. Just finished the manga last week after realizing I should check to see if she finished the story by now or not. Gosh I wish I knew I could have seen a green comet in April.
I was simultaneously underwhelmed and appreciative of the ending, even if it wasn't what I was expecting. A fitting end for a character who deserved everything :(
Im duckin baffled that you are talking about this manga , happy to see videos about it , more people should read it :D, so good that its the only manga ive seeked out and read after seeing the anime
ok fine you got me. this will be the first and last manga i ever read. even though the end is spoiled, i feel like reading that part will shatter me just the same.
It was a good ending for Phos. We don't see a lot of stories that end in relationships parting, so it's refreshing. I just wish we got more stories with the side characters - they also helped make the story unforgettable. Cinnabar, Cairngorm, even Sensei, Jade, and Euclase. I felt for them a lot, but their endings didn't feel as conclusive or happy as Phos's. Feels like they'll keep making mistakes. The two diamonds had the closest thing to a definitive finale, although they could've used at least one more conversation to round out their story.
man, I can't make this up I watched series based on this manga, but things turned out in the way I didn't know it's name But now when you showed it's cover, I must admit I won't watch this video, since I REALLY liked the world behind it and want to read it spoiler-free see you later, I guess.
what do you mean you read manga. i finished reading it years after having watched the anime and it coincidentally ended only a month prior to that. this is a simulation man...
the thing about land of lustrous is that theres no actual happy ending in my opinion, (This doesnt include that in the video since i thought land of lustrous ended with phos-) but this video makes me cry 😢 it turns better but then it just crash dive in the end and u will realise your eyes are literally crying ( MY OPINION) and when i saw your video and found out about this epilogue actually.. i have to say it i rather take this than phos being left in earth for eternity ( i read land of lustrous since i was 9 and thought it was a japanese version of steven universe)
Bruh the view of humanity being awful and viewed as like the worst think ever is kinda cringe. It's treating the whole based it's worse parts, to the ignorance of everything else. Like isnt prittipat on his death bed thinking about making his mother proud and seeing her again a very human trait.
imagine getting a good touching ending to a great and memorable manga and then going and bitching about it because it wasn't "perfect" people stopped counting how many good stories don't get an ending in the first place let alone a good one
@@RegalOni i guess i should have added a time stamp that i'm referencing to a specific part of the video where at 17:44 daszombes comments on the topic of people being satisfied/NOTsatisfied with the ending my comment refers to that
Honestly, wasnt much of a fan of the last arc. Chaoter 99 was a great end to the series. The last 9 chapters just felt like a bunch of fluff with nothing happening. Just dragging out until chapter 108 for the number.
Hnk had me hooked, but I felt like the story didn't know what to do with itself as it progressed. There were lots of cool ideas and concepts used, lots of interesting characters introduced, lots of potential. But I feel like it never reaches the heights that it should have. The story takes sudden and jarring shifts. I think the epilogue is great, in a vacuum. But its an unsatisfying epilogue when contrasted with the rest of the story. I think its largely due to cultural differences between the east and west, philosophically.
No not even a little bit. Phos was used, never achieved any of her goals, and took many down with her like Paparadscha In the end only Antarcticite had something of a good ending but that’s about it….Maybe red diamond for getting to see her father again
I think that the lack of cohesion throughout the epilogue is an entirely intentional creative decision. Its hard to genuinely talk about the end of LOTL in terms of happy or sad really, because to me Its about acceptance. Our place in the universe was never guarunteed, and it will not last forever. And some will live their entire lives without finding thier true purpose. Life is confusing, and harsh, full of missed opportunities, yet it can be beautiful. But everything will one day dissappear. At least it happens at all, just like the story.
What it means to me at least. I love 2 yap
when talking rocks and a cranky goop spider are more of friends to you than your entire species
But that is the thing! Phos made it that way! Phos could've been happy way back then, but because they were so concerned with being useful like the others to be loved like the others, they didn't stop to realize that they were already loved in the way they were
I loved the epilogue so much. It wasn’t perfect, mostly cuz of how abstract and fricken existential a lot of it is. But I think that adds to the finale.
Phos’ final form of existence is kinda the opposite of perfection, they can’t even move and must rely on being moved by the other siblings. But they all love each other, they wouldn’t ask anything more of each other. Perfection, power, ability, none of that matters, simply being there is what’s important.
And that is incredible :)
I'm not sure if I'll ever read the final chapter as the microcosm containing a new iteration of the universe. Maybe this is the intention, but I read that as the last memory that remains in the very last remnant of Phos. Every other part of Phos becoming nothingness with everyone else, but what does remain is a gentle, happy reminder of something that made them happy, and the idea that they, too, made and continue to make others happy in one way or another. The themes of Buddhism and nirvana make me doubt that the cycle repeats in some way. It is the ultimate goal to end that cycle of rebirth, so i just have to assume that is the case. Of course, I feel like the ending was left just vague enough for the reader to project their own interpretation. Regardless, I am sad to see Phos go, but I am glad we got to see their story
land of the lustrous is the only manga that has made me cry. fuck yea Daszombes, thanks for getting me into the funny rock anime :]
update: i fucking love your old man pitipat voice
try "SHY", i fucking cried in 30 chaps in, pepesha lore depressed my soul, took me the last chaps of HnK to cry because of "have a pleasant 10 thousand years", cinnabar death also got me, phos filled with despair running away from aechmea was also a moment, but damn shy got me so early, the early chaps hook you in but around the chap 25 you can see the build up for some tragedy, and the flashbacks are pure sadness and depression, so much the main character has to step in midway through flashbacks to save pepesha from dying from chronic acute high hyper depression
@@tophatoctopus1997I love it sm too
I've never read land of the lustrous. I still clicked on this video clueless of the plot. even just hearing this ending out of context was enough to make me tear up.
dude you gotta read it
this shit is probably the most tragic story I've ever read
The whole journey is gut wrenching
He actually did a video about pretty much everything leading up to this you should totally check his channel and see it❤
Play Nevermind he says it at the beginning then again knowing THIS I'm going to forget that he says that at the beginning once I go through the video😅😅
I love how getting a full picture of the story from start to finish and just time to digest everything that was Phos gives so much insight on the way that Ichikawa goes about linking various ideas together. She doesn’t really paint anyone as good or bad all throughout.
One such example is how the last chapter lets Phos shatter and spread across the entire universe and it is seem with such joy while something like Yama spreading the ground up pieces of the lustrous into the moon as “evil” because of the point of view that we see things from (Phos truly letting go vs Phos searching for their lost kinships).
I guess thinking of the last volume of material as an epilogue - post humanity - is a great way to interpret the series as long as it’s not seen as an epilogue to the story. But even that is somewhat off because as you mention we contemplate on humanity and happiness all throughout until the very last panel itself.
I just hope this doesn’t reiterate the running narrative some individuals had to thinking the story had “ended” everytime Ichikawa went on hiatus and the rest of the story is optional as an epilogue. It would do a disservice with how calculated everything came out in the end (with the real time event of a phos colored comet in our visible eye as the last chapter released).
Great video! I am one of the few who never saw the previous one 😅 let me rectify that and watch it soon.
The ending is so confusing to me but I still like it! It makes me glad the phos found peace and happiness. And makes me think that everyone can have that too despite the suffering we’ve experienced.
sweet dreams dear gem, may your light reach everyone, shining brightly all the while
I like the small theory about the reason of so much wait for the ending to be released, the comet pons-brooks, described as "The Pons-Brooks comet, which has a beautiful mint color similar to Phosphophyllite" is a comet that is visible from earth every 70 years, and the manga just ended around the same time this comet started its cycle near earth, It's fun to think that Ichikawa made us wait that long just to end it around the same date, and in my opinion, very meaningful to the last 2 pages of the manga as well. the phos comet will be forever in my memories, and some of us will try to see it again in 70 years :)
I couldn't watch this video at work calmly without tearing up a little, this ending still hits as hard as a rock in the head, great video and narration :)
I was feeling really anxious, but this helped me calm down, thank you.
I love you Dasz, your voicework for Pitapat was lovely
Yes. Next question.
Thanks for the opening disclaimer, almost impulsively spoiled myself. I resisted for a year before watching Brutal Orchestra, so worth it.
damn i look through the comments and see 11 philosophical essays about the 5 stages of grief like goddamn
the whole micro cosmos thing probably has some super deep Buddhism meaning but idk tbh
Returning back towards the totality of oneness, wholeness and Unification. It's the idea that nothing really dies. It just returns back into the greater universe to become that little spark for someone else.
a second peak has hit the channel
Literally just randomly thought about your character arc study video today (after watching it 7 months ago), and watched it again because it was so good.
At the end you said the ending was coming out spring 2024, so I thought 'huh wonder if I can find it' I check your channel and BOOM there's this. Posted just 2 days ago.
How the-
It's a little weird for my taste, but the series has always been like that. It's a beautiful way to end the story and I actually don't mind that things aren't explained towards the end. It makes it seem like we're in the shoes of Phos. No longer questioning things but instead just accepting them for what they are.
Oh yeah, by the way, someone is making a game based on Land of the Lustrous
Before I go on about my opinions of the epilogue and ending, I'd like to thank you. You're the reason I began reading Land of the Lustrous. Without your video on Phos, I likely wouldn't have found it during a part of my life where I needed its message the most.
Now on to the review. I personally think the ending is perfect. To me, it's exactly what I wanted but not entirely what I expected. The theme of acceptance that outlines the epilogue perfectly captures how I believe Phos' character arc should have ended. It's a weird ending, but one that I never once felt overstayed it's welcome. It forces you to accept, like Phos has to. You have to accept that the rocks just exist, that the flowers hold entire worlds. It's amazing - in my opinion - how the writer managed to do that.
The final image makes me think the entire point of the manga was to give a message to others. I see the comet as an abstract idea of kindness. Phos, after accepting themselves and becoming happy spread that to others who need it. The young Phos needed that happiness, and so old Phos sends it by accident. It's a grand and tough to grasp idea that I love.
Land of the Lustrous resonates so well with me because I've struggled with self image and esteem which the series outright centers around. If I'd summarise the message that I took from it, it would be "accept yourself, accept others". That's a difficult task, but one Land of the Lustrous introduced me to.
Once again, thank you for both reading and introducing me to this amazing series.
This manga was so moving for me only a few other stories moved my heart as Land of the Lustrous.
Das, I'm not sure why, but whenever I am in a deep state of hopeless depression, you seem to sneak into my recommended. And for that, I'm glad
I do such love the succelent suffocating atomsphere of the epiloge, truly stunning, truly lustrous!
The ending reminds me so much of ending of Outer Wilds
Once all is done and new big bang happens, you are left on a picture of the new universe, with new people, with strange planets.
You can't explore them, but that's ok
The story ended, at least yours did
And that's ok
Sometimes explanations for everything are not needed
Sometimes it's just best to rest after the long jurney
Enjoying the view
Dude i mostly watched you for your rainworld videos and I was just wondering how this story ended and read up on it - now I come across your video :o
NO WAY, daszombes knows about the rocks????
i might have dementia
Welcome back. Just finished the manga last week after realizing I should check to see if she finished the story by now or not. Gosh I wish I knew I could have seen a green comet in April.
I was simultaneously underwhelmed and appreciative of the ending, even if it wasn't what I was expecting. A fitting end for a character who deserved everything :(
Im duckin baffled that you are talking about this manga , happy to see videos about it , more people should read it :D, so good that its the only manga ive seeked out and read after seeing the anime
ok fine you got me. this will be the first and last manga i ever read. even though the end is spoiled, i feel like reading that part will shatter me just the same.
It was a good ending for Phos. We don't see a lot of stories that end in relationships parting, so it's refreshing. I just wish we got more stories with the side characters - they also helped make the story unforgettable. Cinnabar, Cairngorm, even Sensei, Jade, and Euclase. I felt for them a lot, but their endings didn't feel as conclusive or happy as Phos's. Feels like they'll keep making mistakes. The two diamonds had the closest thing to a definitive finale, although they could've used at least one more conversation to round out their story.
I mostly just kinda wish Phos went with all the others instead of sorta being left alone, thats the only ending I sorta wanted
man, I can't make this up
I watched series based on this manga, but things turned out in the way I didn't know it's name
But now when you showed it's cover, I must admit I won't watch this video, since I REALLY liked the world behind it and want to read it spoiler-free
see you later, I guess.
what do you mean you read manga. i finished reading it years after having watched the anime and it coincidentally ended only a month prior to that. this is a simulation man...
Land of the lustrous.. my favorite thing of all time
I love the ending I just wished it was a bit more explained
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
The flower thing is a Buddhist thing. It goes really deep you have to research it
Can you make lethal company concept ideas (part-4).
whem is the Changed lore video comin out
sorry Daz, I aint watching this until I actually read Land of the Lustrous
LET'S GO HE'S HERE
Almost as good as the breaking bad screen play.
god damn you just you reading out that snippit of 107 made me cry again, yes its a good ending damnit
LETTTSSS GGOOOO ZOMBESDAS VIDEOOOOO!!!!
Idk what this is, but I'll watch it intensly
Edit: Yeah I didn't watch the other video, I'll try that later
If this is your third favorate, where are the videos for you two other favorate mangas?
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are you ever gonna rate any webnovel? if so my recommendation is burning effect. One of the best one I think I've read including mangas.
i will wach this video another time - but yes it was good ending. Fitting. I saw way worse then this
WOHOO YOU READ HNK
i loved the anime but i didn't like the direction at first but now i like it
the thing about land of lustrous is that theres no actual happy ending in my opinion, (This doesnt include that in the video since i thought land of lustrous ended with phos-) but this video makes me cry 😢 it turns better but then it just crash dive in the end and u will realise your eyes are literally crying ( MY OPINION) and when i saw your video and found out about this epilogue actually.. i have to say it i rather take this than phos being left in earth for eternity
( i read land of lustrous since i was 9 and thought it was a japanese version of steven universe)
Dog just recapping wym, 2 minute opinion section, crazy
Bruh the view of humanity being awful and viewed as like the worst think ever is kinda cringe. It's treating the whole based it's worse parts, to the ignorance of everything else.
Like isnt prittipat on his death bed thinking about making his mother proud and seeing her again a very human trait.
imagine getting a good touching ending to a great and memorable manga and then going and bitching about it because it wasn't "perfect"
people stopped counting how many good stories don't get an ending in the first place let alone a good one
You didn't watch the video, huh
@@RegalOni i guess i should have added a time stamp that i'm referencing to a specific part of the video
where at 17:44 daszombes comments on the topic of people being satisfied/NOTsatisfied with the ending
my comment refers to that
Fuck. I'm cryihg again.
Yipee
"Selfishness bad"
It's such aphilosophic drivel if you actually think about it for more than two seconds.
Selfshness is bad in high amounts, and good in moderate to low amounts
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 The validity of Egotic intent is not a matter of degree but of kind.
@@ThreeFingerG speak normally
neat
Honestly, wasnt much of a fan of the last arc. Chaoter 99 was a great end to the series. The last 9 chapters just felt like a bunch of fluff with nothing happening. Just dragging out until chapter 108 for the number.
Hnk had me hooked, but I felt like the story didn't know what to do with itself as it progressed. There were lots of cool ideas and concepts used, lots of interesting characters introduced, lots of potential. But I feel like it never reaches the heights that it should have. The story takes sudden and jarring shifts. I think the epilogue is great, in a vacuum. But its an unsatisfying epilogue when contrasted with the rest of the story.
I think its largely due to cultural differences between the east and west, philosophically.
Dad please acknowledge my existence
No, I need to buy milk.
No not even a little bit. Phos was used, never achieved any of her goals, and took many down with her like Paparadscha
In the end only Antarcticite had something of a good ending but that’s about it….Maybe red diamond for getting to see her father again
HnK is kinda lame
Okay but why are you commenting on a video about it then? You sound annoying
Not rain world don’t care
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