The Ultra Desirable Motorcycle that Costs Almost Nothing to Keep
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
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Timecast:
0:00: BMW Prices Drop Like No Other (2002 BMW R1150R, Suzuki Bandit 600)
5:40: A brand new Honda CRF 300 Rally written off after dropping on its side
7:53: A Solid Sportsbike for £1,200 (kawasaki ZZR600)
12:44: Japanese bikers (Kawasaki Kz1000, Kawasaki Z1000, Royal Enfield Classic 350)
18:07: A Honda XL 650 V to Morocco (Honda Transalp)
20:00: Belt drive vs Chain Drive
23:56: Bike of the Week: 2021 Bullet Trials Works Replica 500
I've a 1996 GSX1100G, obviously has carbs, K&N air filters and never misses a beat. Choke out, hit start, let bike warm up and off it goes. Great Tuesday evening viewing as always, thanks Freddie
Hi from the UK 🇬🇧. Amongst others, I bought a 2002 ZZR600. It had been dropped , and needed a new body kit. The milage (fully genuine) was 9374. Yes, less than 10k. I paid £500 for it. Total cost of parts and minor resto, £600. It looks like a Factory fresh Machine, which I take to Bike Nights, and weekends on B roads. Love it. Daily rider is a Yamaha xj900s diversion, utterly reliable, and costs peanuts to run. The beauty of these bikes is Zero depreciation when properly maintained.
Did something similar, mines done 19000
Hi from the netherlands Freddie, i don't know if you know. But here the bikes do not have an MOT check ever. Doesnt matter if the bike is new or 10 years old no MOT required. Just the roadtax wich is €120 a year and insurence.
Amazing 💪💯
You can bet your government will see what's happening everywhere else in Europe and soon you will be next to be taxed
My old BMW r1100rs started needing little things. BMW prices 3-4 times dearer than equivalent Japanese parts. Time for it to go. ZZR600 is a bike I should have kept. It does everything 👍
Exactly bmw parts are horrendous overpriced the service prices as well , cars too have horrendous reputation just look at some of the forums 🤦♂️
I’m going to say 1 bike, Tiger 9!
52,000 miles is around the clutch replacement time for a BMW boxer, it's a pricey job because the bike has to be split and involves a lot of labour. The older boxer models had unit gearboxes that could be removed to change the clutch. I have fitted both types and know that this is why they're so cheap.
I owned 3x BMW f650cs (roadgoing version of the f650gs) that had belt drives. Liked them far better than chain drives, no maintenance, no noise, and lasts a long time.
I did have a belt snap on me once when i accidentally knocked it in first when stationery. It cost about £210 to do it myself as you can only get them from BMW (who get them made by Gates in the USA). On the f650cs forum, belts have been reported still going after 75,000 miles with the original sprockets.
I❤belt.
You haven't tried Motorworks for spares? My '82 R65LS has been kept running thanks to the guys at Motorworks.
Carbs ain’t voodoo Freddie… You make such a big deal of ‘em, makes an oldie like me laugh.
An older bike, with kick start only, that WOULD be a deal breaker for my wheezy old body.
That’s a simple statement about carbs. There’s much more to it. Single/ bank of 4, modern fuel, rusty old fuel tanks. Balancing? Slow running jets gelling up because of fuel. V twins front cool cylinder in wind altering fuelling. Also I sold my carb bike as two snorkels which were cracked and u serviceable 2005 and no longer available and used in same condition as mine. Much prefer carbs but if you are not a competent diyer maybe more expensive. My 21 yr old vrf fi faultless all its life
Hi Freddie, think I might have mentioned your carbs worries before, embrace the carb ! The main reason for the switch to injection was emissions, carbs are easier to work on & tend not to have snatcheness hesitation & lag associated with injection when set up properly a big Japanese four on carbs is a thing of great joy try one !
As for belts, aside from cost implications, they dont work so well on bikes with a lot of suspension movement, which is why you see them on Harleys etc, also difficult to alter gearing hence, you don't see them on race bikes either.
Get yourself a Japanese classic for the Channel a Kawasaki z650 would be a good starting point.
The Bullet Trials 500 was a special edition version of the Classic 500 Freddie. Royal Enfield made a few special editions of the 500 during the years since the UCE engined 500's were introduced back in around 2010. All Bullet and Classic 500's sold from 2010 onwards were the final UCE engined variants. Prior to this they used the old separate dry sump engine and gearbox which dates back to the 1950's. Other special editions are the 'Battle Green Despatch' (which was a camouflaged version of the Battle Green Classic 500 and are very rare but visually stunning) and the 'Pegasus Special Edition'. This was once again based on a military version of the Classic 500 and made in either Battle Green or Tan. These bikes are also stunning looking and there are more of them. They are a tribute to the Royal Enfield 'Flying Flea' bikes that were dropped by parachute with troops at Arnhem during WW2. They even come with military panniers stamped with the year '1944' on them and were made up until 2018 I think. Well worth a look perhaps 🙂
Old BMWs? I've just got back from a 325-mile day out around northern England on my 1974 R90S. Total comfort, total reliability, 58mpg. I won't part with it, best bike I've ever owned bar none.
Totally agree with you.
BMWs are the best bikes particularly the old ones.
The service and parts availability is outstanding.
Had one. More than held price too
Hi Freddie, on your belt drive topic, as belt drives are made in one piece and don’t split like a chain does. If you were to have a belt snap on you, it’s a lot more involved to fit a new one if you carried a spare. You would need to remove the swingarm in most cases to attach the belt to the front pulley. A chain however you can just carry a few spare links (no need for a whole chain) and if your chain snaps you can simply replace the broken links. I’m a qualified Harley tech and belts certainly better for lack of maintenance than chains, but a replacement is certainly more involved than changing a set of chain and sprockets.
I have a trials rep royal Enfield and I love it, brilliant for just having a gentle potter out on with mates on similar bikes.
I just do nto understand your hang up with Carbs ! All I see is later bikes with "issues" constantly on FB pages, I have an 883 bought it because it has carbs, so easy to work on and rarely go wrong. I must have read 6 or 7 posts just today about bikes with "injection" issues ! Carbs are simple and very reliable ! Just think how many years all bikes were carb!
After 13 years riding nothing but star-of-the-art BMWs, I will NEVER regret buying my low-mile 1150GS.
Paid 3500 quid for an 18 year old bike, paid another 2 grand for DEALER service, including new tyres and fluids.
No monthly payments, I own it, and I'd be happy to tour it around Europe.
Motorcycling should be CHEAP transport, right? 😊😊😊😊😊
I have the same bike.
I also paid £3500
Had it 6 reliable years, still worth what I paid.
2k dealer service 😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@volt8684 Yeah well I do everything myself for peanuts 👍
Take any bike to the main dealer you’re going to get stung.
2k for a service!! No BMW’s for me Thankyou
@@neilurquhart8622 It won’t have been a service will it smart ass.
He’s already stated it needed 2 new tyres.
I’m sure there were other items on the list.
I had similar accident with van reversing into my Yamaha xsr125, while I was stationary. Insurance company gave me a Honda cb125 to use, had it for about 7months. The settlement costed over 52k to the third party insurance.
Could buy a dozen CB125s for that. It's a right scam. The bastards.
@@MrB1967 I was so shocked 🤯 only rode 250mile on that Honda while it was in my hands.
WOW!😳
How does that happen. They could just buy you a new bike on the spot and save everyone money. The whole thing is a damn scam.
@@SMSBJM1981 It doesn't happen. It doesn't work like that.
The 3rd party insurer would have only paid out for the 250 miles of usage. The rest is on paper liable to the person who signed the credit agreement for the hire vehicle and yes it is a "credit agreement" that you sign for a hire vehicle.
They just write off anything they can't claim for as chasing the client for the balance is expensive and none productive. Also not good for future business as less people would be likely to accept hire vehicles knowing they could be liable for £1000's if the other insurer refuses to pay for any unjustfiable hire expenses.
250 miles over 7 months is as unjustifable as it gets, clearly the vehicle was not needed, clearly some delay they or the person hiring wasn't responsible for etc etc and it ends up as an act of good faith to save going to court to argue it out that the 3rd party insurer will agree to pay a reasonable fair fee for the 250 miles of usage only.
I've got a ZZR600. Its a 2003 model and I picked it up for £1700 2 years ago with just 11000 miles. Its a fabulous bike - fast, comfortable, reliable. Ridiculous value for money and huge fun. However, the glove box (which is lockable) is almost useless. Not even one glove will fit and even my phone is too big. The only thing I've found that fits is a GoPro camera. It does look posh though....
Hi Freddie, the KZ1000 you so kindly advertised for me, is an incredible machine, unfortunately the bottom fell out of the market a few years back, and is just getting worse. 5 or 6 years ago i would've sold it easily for 8 or 9 grand. i've had this on Ebay for £6.500 with no offers, it been on Marketplace for several weeks and only had one chap call to take a look, but he wanted it for a lot less. looks like i will be keeping it for a while yet. The bike came from North America, Colorado and because of the climate over there nothing seems to rust, this bike looks like it came straight from the factory.
ZZR600 smooth, quick and very reliable. Brilliant for touring (super comfortable). The ZX6R got all the glory but the ZZR was actually the gem. Coat it in ACF50 if you’re riding in the winter. Silly money for such a competent bike.
A chain is easy to replace as it splits and can be fitted trough the fram and swing arm you cant do that with a belt.
remove swingarm spindle and bottom shock bolt if u dont have room
Hi Freddie, had several belt drive bikes, they are great. A couple on points though, as they are endless you have to remove the swingarm to fit a new one, so that’s not good for overlanding in the middle of nowhere. Secondly for race bikes and off readers it’s much easier and cheaper to change the gearing with a chain .
Working on carbs isn't rocket science Freddie -- even balancing them is fairly straight forward if, like any job, you have the right tools. Just RTFM.
Brought back my first and current bike from England to Lithuania, Hodna VF700c Magna 1987`, i do have to work on it occasionally and others tease me for it but its stylish, gets attention, runs great and significantly fast for a bike thats much older than myself ! I`ve noticed that some old bikes noone wants to touch these days as they are too much of a hasle to maintenance + not all mechanics want to work on them
that carburetor thing is not to be glossed over. having had an old transalp with carburettors, they are a PITA. park the bike for 1-2 months, and it wont start. if it starts, it wont hold idle and it dies out at stoplights. rebuild carbs, tune carbs, then sync them together!!! sadly no shops do that anymore here. then you DIY from youtube carb sync with bottles, get ur hands dirty....
plus, nobody talks about the safety aspect. carburettors by design have a spring that shuts the flow when you let off the gas and remove tension from the throttle cable. if that spring breaks, and it breaks right after an acceleration (so not stationary, this surprise comes when you are at big speed...) then you will have the very unpleasant experience of letting off the throttle and the motorcycle will keep accelerating full-on. I have had that happen to me on a scooter so it had no clutch to pull in. and i crashed, in the heat of the moment hitting the kill switch fast enough is not a reasonable thing to demand out of the average rider out there, even a second of extra throttle in a bend or into oncoming traffic will get you killed, untill you pull the clutch, use the kill switch or whatever else. carburettors are an awful day to day chore to deal with and will get you killed in the extreme. it only has to happen once! this is why EFI is superior, just unbolt an injector and bolt a new one back in and be done with it.
Hey Freddie, I run a 1991 zzr1100, with 18,000 miles 147 bhp 175 mph when new. Bought it for £800 and costs £75 to insure fully comp, runs sweet as a nut.
When the ZZR-600 was released I was working at a dealership and for the time they were one of the best all-rounders and a rev range to 14k made it so much fun to ride and was comfterble too. Unlike the ZX-10 which for me and the wife was not the mile muncher I was expecting due to a terrible seat!!
On the subject of belt drive bikes I bought a cube hybrid road bicycle with gates belt and shimano Alfine 8 speed internal hub, I am so impressed with it, smooth, quiet and maintenance free. I got fed up with noisy derailer and chain and having to clean and oil it regularly. I live in south of France and ride everyday and because it’s dry here there is a lot of dust and sand not good for oily chains. I also ride a bandit 1250 and gonna look into converting that to belt drive or buy a bike that can be converted, I think it is a brilliant idea.
Chers Freddie, and thanks for taking the time to research the insurance on the Kawasaki. It’s definitely food for thought. Good points on the ulez etc too, appreciate the effort. Sam
Great video and a real eye opener Freddie, cheers.
Hi Freddie, Just a quick mention regarding the buzz about 'Belt Drive'... Over here in the USA, the Harley guys who are building the big monster, high torque, high horsepower Harley V-twins, tend to opt for a chain drive conversion instead of the factory belt drive. The reason, the belt drive is limited on the amount of raw power it can handle...
Fantastic Freddie
I have a 1981 Suzuki Gs850g mot and tax exempt great bike and next to nothing to ride on the road 😊
Regards
Dave from Scotland
You can’t get the trials anymore . Check out the Enfield Woodsman from bout 2009 , they did a carb and EFI . They have better footrest position and a nicer exhaust. Loved mine and stupidly sold it
If your chain breaks you feed it back through and put a new soft link in. A belt being continuous, requires the removal of the full primary transmission transmission.clutch,alternator etc,and the rear wheel to thread the belt in
Not necessarily. Depends on the bike.
@@toasttv512 true,but it's still a swing arm out job,not the easiest side of the road fix
Not on a Buell.
Freddie let me give you a little input on the belt vs chain debate. The belt is the way to go, unless it happens to break. Very unlikely, but if it does your not gonna be able to replace it on the side of the road. At least on a Harley. You got to pull the inner and outer primary’s and the clutch just to get to the sprocket to put the new belt on. On the other hand, if you break a chain, you just take the new chain thread it through the sprockets connect the center link and your done. Belts last longer than chains. No oiling, no need to have extra center links in your tool roll. BUT. The convenience of being able to repair the problem on the road is a plus. It’s like the difference between mag wheels and spoke wheels. With mags you fix a flat with a plug. With spokes you need a tube, and you got to take the tire off. I’m thinking mag wheels and chain drive you should be ok.
do you carry a spare chain about? I think 99% of riders are stranded whether it's chain or belt.
Well if I was going cross country on a multi day trip I would carry all the tools and spare parts that I would think I would need. A chain would be one of them.
The one thing you forgot to mention about replacing the belt especially out on a trip is you have to remove the swinging arm and for most people that is not an option as unlike a chain you can’t split the belt like you can with a chain, specially on a bigger bike.
Not on a Buell like mine.
@@toasttv512 you and the 4 blokes that ride buells yeah
In 35 years of riding motorcycles, I have never heard of a belt snapping. And coming from cruisers, there are a lot of bikes in the genre that have belts e.g. Harleys and the Yamaha Star range.
Hi Freddie, the reason the RE 500 Bullit doesn't sell is because they are NOT a particularly good bike. These 350s and 500s were from the "old" RE era, they are not that reliable or nice to ride, with inadequate brakes and now power. These bikes are not to be confused the 350s J engine from RE, which are great little bikes. In fact you can get a brand new 350 Metor for £3000, better off buying one of those and then making it your own and even customising to what ever you want
I'll try and send my comment again. The 500 trials is now available at £4999 from moto gb! They don't make them anymore,and will be just left over new stock, now released for sale. Apart from the discounted Enfield models owned by moto gb,all new Enfield's are being supplied re uk themselves.🙂
lol I just noticed you put a sticker on your dented laptop like I suggested! Cheers.
I had a mate back in 1990 with a ZZR600 , I unfortunately wrote it off just after he ran it in . I was about 20 years old and ended up down an embankment. But a fantastic bike in the day .We don’t put salt on roads in Australia either, Also I’m sure getting what we call “ gray imports “ into Australia is fantastic for older cars or bikes , apparently they cannot go over a certain amount of kms , and more expensive the older they are . I have a Kawasaki 250 Super Shepa 1999 model in Vic Australia can put in on historical registration “ very cheap “ around 40 of your pounds per year only down side you need to fill in a log book , you can choose 30 or 90 days . It’s not consecutive it’s only when you ride it . Belt you can not take off road - that’s the disadvantage. I think the shaft is the way to go - as it can go on any terrain.
I like the idea of a belt drive, but alas to fit it I would need to remove the rear wheel and swing arm to get it on as there is no joint in the belt. I'm sure there are a lot of bikes that would have the same problem.
Great Vlog Freddie, as always. You enrich my life. Take care.
I should think that if a belt did snap, it would do a sight less damage than a conventional chain.
I'm about to send my '78 Z1000A2 to H&H auctions B.ham . The ELR is sold.
That one was a USA import as they here badged KZ not Z for some strange reason. There were several small differences in spec too.
The reason BM's get cheap is their spares and repairs are so expensive. They are not as reliable as everyone seems to believe, so that's a costs to factor in.
Carbs are a pain if you're not riding them at least every week, especially with the latest petrol which causes gumming issues
I would love to see a retro Kawasaki Z1300
Those BMW R1150s often need new final drive replacements at around 50k which will cost more than the bike. ABS/servo brakes also a weak point = big bills. unless this work has been done high mileage bikes will have to be cheap. They also need a lot of service items (gearbox oil, engine oil, final drive oil, air filter, valves, alternator belt, fuel filter, plugs, brake fluid) so not cheap to run unless DIYing.
Carbs can be a pain but not impossible as it's a practical strip and fix. A modern bike when it goes wrong needs a computer, software and leads which most people haven't got any clue how to do and don't have access to the manufacturers software anyway. New bikes are too complex and have too many sensors, all of which can go wrong at the drop of a hat and be a pain to diagnose. Old or new the problems can be just as hard, just different.
Why the XXXX would you accept a loan m'bike if you weren't going to use it!!!
Sounds like the same issues we’re dealing with in Canada. Motorcycles prices keep dropping.
That is partially due to us having the highest insurance rates on the planet.
Be good to yourselves and do not buy BMW!! Headache...! The same goes for DUCATI's! There are more Ducati's in the repair shop than in the showroom! Lol! High repair costs too! Real fun to hear about all the stories you bring forward! I have been on bikes for 50++ years and now go for ONLY Japanese 10-15 years old (Only 100% originals). Cheap and therefore not in a hurry to sell due to stable prices and low maintenance cost! Very reliable bikes! Mostly Honda and Kawasaki. Now-a-days looking for a 1990 or newer Yamaha V-max just for the fun of it! I now have 5 bikes from 125 YBR, 150 NSR (Just restored 100%) CBR250R, CBR500R, Kawasaki 660 ER6N. Just missing that 1200 Vmax! Happy days!😄😄72 and still going strong!
Freddie - A belt drive is no good for the long distance riding, in say Africa (see a clip of a typical trip I do). The reasons are many, mostly to do with off road durability, ability to maintain, repair and replace. I monitor my chain often, clean and line as part of daily maintenance routine after I set up my tent and can even replace a link or indeed entire sprockets and chain nearly anywhere, although I can get 20,000 miles (double) just by looking after chain and correct tension and that’s enough to get anywhere for a good service and some TLC in civilisation .
I think the belt drive is suitable for road use on the Harley’s - not adventure riding on KTMs etc. that would put too much strain on- not to mention the altitude, humidity, heat and underwater activity. A chain is tougher- pure and simple
As for shaft drive? I have one on my Guzzi V85TT - it’s sort of maintenance free until it isn’t … I met Charlie Boorman and Ewan McGregor on one of my rides in Zambia and they had support vehicles with spare swing arms and GS shafts because when they go - they really go - not easy to maintain and monitor in BFNW - they are a service item and you change shaft oil at regular intervals. I am wary of them as a friend had a shaft lock up at 100 mph on a Yamaha VMax and it wasn’t pretty.
So - adventure riding off road and gravel like Africa or America BDRs - go chain.
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My 2001 triumph sprint RS 955i is ulez compliant. Got a certificate of conformity from triumph for free!
How did you go about that? I've a Sprint ST 955i - would quite like to get one of those
This is very interesting!
@@daver3110 if you look up motorcycle action group certificate of conformity wiki - it will bring up a link with a document that houses all the contact points of all the motorcycle companies for obtaining the certificate of confromity. Email the triumph one with your V5 and address and they post it to you in 10 days!
A lot of e bikes are turning to belts. I have had a few scooters and are belt drive still great performance. Had a f800 bmw was belt drive was superb. At 66 I don’t want be on floor chain cleaning and would gladly sacrifice any/if performance loss for belt drive. Never heard of belt snapping. The belts are the same material as cam chains driving cars for 60k before changing. If you don’t maintain it it might snap. Same as chain. Some massive 5.0l commercial engines are belt drive
I think manufacturers don't offer belt drives for the very positive reasons you mention. They take work and the sale of replacement chain and sprockets from the dealer and parts network. Simply, there's not enough profit in fitting belt drives.
I suspect they don't want to re-engineer the bike to take belts rather than your suggested reason.
@@richardbartlett6932 I disagree as they would of engineered them with belt drive in the first place. At the end of the day, it's all about profit!
Hi Freddie I have a Yamahafz1n 2006 from new live in dartford no garage kept in back garden and payed last November £109 full comp protected no claims and I was 65 at the time of insurance not bad I think
Very good!
my royal enfield super meteor 650 has a belt drive, brilliant, big improvement ! See teacher T on youtube....game changer.
Wow, I though belt drives wrre a bit of a niche. Might have to look into it 👍
If he wasn’t going to use the loan bike, why have it. He is the one that’s driven the claim up massively.
Carbs, yeah. When circuit boards are long gone corroded carbs can be rebuilt
You lose torque when you change to belt drive and many people have to change sprockets to maintain the same torque they had with chains.
GrandDad On An Enfield has got to be the best username ive heard in a while. Definitely gonna check him out!
All roads lead to the mighty DR650SE
Belts don't have a split-link......wouldn't that make fitting one by the side of the road a little bit difficult ?
Carbs will always get you home.
Used bike prices in the UK are stupid because of the 40 years rule and ulez creeping across the country. A 15 year old BMW or honda 1000 cc bike is now the same price as a scrap yard junk honda cg 125 . people are asking £1000+ for dead 40 years old bikes .the price starts to rise only if the bikes are approximately 2007 and newer so euro 4/5 ( what ever) and up . Freddie you perception of bike is very odd at times...carbs have been around for 120 years so easy to repair not like fuel injection and belt drives are fine until they break or need replacing
Haha 😂 My Insurance on a Tiger 9 fully comp is £90 quid a year. I’m in the sweet spot just turning 40 no claims in 22 years. My R1200gs £648 a year and Triumph just shits all over it.
Very impressed by those ZZR600! Happily own one but just finished doing a refresh on my 2007 Honda CB1300 Bol D’or which just keeps on going at 120,000km. Slaked the thirst for a lighter bike with a 2013 Benelli TNT1130 R160 that had 3,700 kms when I bought it - now it’s stopped trying to kill me we are getting on just fine and it’s fun. That Kawasaki Z1000 is just beautiful and would cost anywhere between $15,000 to over $20,000 here in Australia. The ZZ600 maybe $4,500-6,000 so about the same as UK. The modern classics are on the ascent price wise. Many of the good bikes that were cheap 10 years ago have gone to hipsters and been cafe-racered! We haven’t suffered the likes of ULEZ and such yet, but if the current Labor/Green government gets back in they’ll probably get around to making it impossible to own our toys. Motorcycles are just such a tempting target. But I’ve still got my old T-140 Bonneville too.
These older bikes are in the sweet spot for price and utility provided you’re able to do your own maintenance and repairs.
If your chain snaps in the middle of nowhere you’re likely to have other damage. The secret is not to let that happen. Either way it’s on the back of a truck.
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Bikes seem to cost three to four times as much in the U.S. as they do in the UK. I have 5 bikes. They are all carbureted, and all in much better than average condition. 4 of them were bought new. They have depreciated to the point where they will not depreciate any more, unless something bad happens to them. None of them are sport bikes. At 65, and with some fairly severe orthopedic issues, there is no way I would try to ride one those. 3 of them are cruisers, 2 are Japanese, 1 is a Harley Sportster 1200. Of the other 2, one is a 250cc dual sport, and the other is a 2007 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 single. It's already going up in value. IMO, it is sheer folly to try and keep an older EFI bike. When all that computerized junk starts to fail, and it will, it will cost an absolute fortune to fix, if it can be fixed at all, due to a lack of parts.
This is very odd as a firm in the UK is importing bikes from the USA because anything over 40 years old has no road tax and no yearly inspection ( m o t test ) so the values are getting stupid eg honda cg 125 junkyard pile starting at £1000 god knows why !
Would buying parts for an old classic be very expensive? A good friend of mine had a GSX1400 (so nowhere near as old as the z1000) until he needed a few parts. Over £300 for a replacement fuel pump.
My Indian's belt drive and my wing is shaft drive best of both worlds☺
I have a Honda sh300i scooter best bike I have does all my shopping even gets 3 x 20kg bags of coal , 29000 mls 2007 nearly 100mh, 75mpg longest bike I have owned had lots of large capacity exotica but the Honda has seen them all off
Had one of these and agree but x max even better
Hi Freddie ❤
Hi Chris👋
Hi Freddie just bought a Kawasaki VN 1600 classic 2008 20 miles. Needs. A little tlc after being kept in a damp garage. £1800 Is as good a bike as a Harley Road King.??
BMW3 may be cheap to buy, but servicing fees? Just a door handle, a filter, an indicator lens? insurance? Etc etc…but it looks nice and must be fun to drive.
@@mebeasensei old BMWs are cheap to insure My 3 litre Z4 is £240
My R1150GS is £98
@@GadgetMart oh…ok, guess it’s based on market value of the whole car, not they cost of individual parts?
Talk about crazy guys, the Kawasaki KZ1000 not only had just one front disc, it also had a kickstart. A Kickstarter on a 1000cc motorcycle. Space flights anyone??
Not at all, spaceman. 4 cylinder Japanese with magic decompression. Easy? No. Doable & mostly safe? Was for me....
Some have twin discs (Uk spec) all have electric start kick start is secondary & is easy to use. I have one😊
My Z1000 A2 kicks over very easily, not that you needed to kick it as they had decent starters . I think you're mistaking CC for CR. If the timing is right it never kicks back. (unlike my 81 Bonnie)
Oh and it has twin discs upfront which was an option in Europe at least (that one is a US import)
That same bmw from 2002, in Argentina, 15000 dollars (11400 pounds or 13500 euros)... Argentina's used vehicle market is a joke...
Suddenly a decade or so on.......man you hurt my brain.
I had never heard of this belt final drive conversion as I thought they all came like that. Oh! I know why, I am scooterist..........
OLD CLASSICS ? My 1980 Royal Enfield Daily driver worth nothing , cheap to run , very reliable maintenance is a breeze just add gasoline ( and a dash of oil sometimes ) btw I have written of goldwings for a simple low speed drop
I wouldn,t touch an old zzr, you know it has been ridden hard, and put away wet.
Sounds like your wife lol
If I were to import a bike from Japan it would be a GS1200ss.
Dear boy, how I luv ya, but what you don't know! The cool RE Trials 500 didn't sell well. It's a Bullet 500, the old motor, out of production since '19(?) & these are leftovers unsold, untitled or used. You can learn stuff on YT....
ZZR and ZX are the same bike if you compare hand books.. you missed out the ZZR 1100. I had one hand book said it was ZX. I own a ZZR 1400 and hand book the same ZX.. just saying lol. Log books say the same ZX whether it's ZZR or ZX..
Still not sure i would have a bike without ABS
I've got three and I'm still alive 😂
@MrB1967 thank God. I only got my first ABS in 2014. Started riding in 1996 I got rid of my last bike (non ABS last year)
@@MrB1967no abs no other rider gizmos just my right hand
@@iandawson7373 And your brain of course.
This is an interesting chat. I’ve just realised that I’ve never owned a bike with abs
BMW cars are parts, repair & reliability nightmares. Bikes, I hope less so, but bean counters & engineering don't often gel....
Is anybody telling the bike companies to STOP making bikes over 600 cc ?
🆒😎💪
Regarding BMW r1150r
It’s done 52k kilometres not miles.
A pure nightmare to repair
Freddie,stop going on about carbs,you put new motorcyclists off by talking nonsense, forty severn years of experience says so ,they are a service item , thats all, so service them,no big deal,also Freddie the blue z1000 mk2 you showed us ,was a one year only bike ,you will not get one of those for six grand, like the rather nice green one .more trips please Freddie, with Monica
Royal Enfield the worst bikes in the world; just leave it running and it’ll shake itself apart on its own (bullet 500 owner).
Insurance is scam